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- 0:09Speaker 1: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Batko and Ed
- 0:13Speaker 1: Troup on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 0:17Speaker 1: Audio Network.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Always good to come on the air in the week
- 0:22Speaker 2: after a Pittsburgh Steelers victory, that's for sure.
- 0:25Speaker 3: You ride it out for a few days. Right, Brian Batko?
- 0:29Speaker 4: Birds are chirping.
- 0:30Speaker 3: The sun is shining.
- 0:32Speaker 5: Everyone's got a little more pep in their step after
- 0:35Speaker 5: a big W, especially once the initial shock wore off.
- 0:38Speaker 3: That's right.
- 0:39Speaker 4: That game ended in Tampa. This is not geographically accurate
- 0:44Speaker 4: to say in Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is technically not
- 0:47Speaker 4: a city.
- 0:48Speaker 5: That's the kind of.
- 0:49Speaker 4: Embrace that whole region there, though, by adding the Bay
- 0:53Speaker 4: onto it. And the Tampa Bay formerly Devil Rays headed
- 0:57Speaker 4: to the World Series. So I think the Bucks fans
- 1:00Speaker 4: would have loved to have beaten our Steelers on Sunday,
- 1:03Speaker 4: but not a bad consolation prize to have their baseball
- 1:05Speaker 4: team in the what they call it, the fall classic.
- 1:08Speaker 2: The fall classic, the World Series, which now goes till,
- 1:12Speaker 2: I think they, I saw something this morning that it
- 1:14Speaker 2: should wrap up by October 31st. You know, there for
- 1:16Speaker 2: a few years, it was going into like the first
- 1:18Speaker 2: week of November.
- 1:18Speaker 5: That's no good.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Which was really weird to be watching baseball in early November, right?
- 1:22Speaker 5: That shouldn't happen.
- 1:23Speaker 2: So I think the goal is to get it knocked
- 1:25Speaker 2: out by October 31st.
- 1:27Speaker 5: Brewers raise.
- 1:28Speaker 6: Yes.
- 1:29Speaker 3: How about that?
- 1:30Speaker 5: Who are you pulling for real quick?
- 1:31Speaker 4: I know, well, I think the Rays are maybe more
- 1:34Speaker 4: of an underdog, but the Brewers have never won one.
- 1:38Speaker 4: The Rays kind of have some aura, as the kids say,
- 1:42Speaker 4: in my opinion.
- 1:43Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:44Speaker 4: But the Brews, the Brew crew, they've got... Well, they're
- 1:47Speaker 4: a Pirates rival, so factor that in.
- 1:49Speaker 6: They are.
- 1:50Speaker 4: But TJ Watt, the Watt family, the Watt brothers, Riley Nowakowski,
- 1:56Speaker 4: all Brewers fans.
- 1:57Speaker 3: See how you pulled this all together?
- 1:59Speaker 5: I like it.
- 1:59Speaker 6: Keep going.
- 2:00Speaker 3: Keep going.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Come on.
- 2:00Speaker 5: Who else we got?
- 2:01Speaker 4: There's a lot of Wisconsin Badgers, but I don't know
- 2:04Speaker 4: that there's anybody else who's like an avid.
- 2:07Speaker 4: Brewers fan actually i've never even asked tj if he's
- 2:11Speaker 4: an avid brewers fan but i guess we'll have some
- 2:13Speaker 4: time now to explore that.
- 2:15Speaker 3: Sounds like it's a future steelers.com article to me.
- 2:18Speaker 4: I don't know if that's article worthy but maybe uh
- 2:20Speaker 4: maybe you'll see a tweet.
- 2:22Speaker 3: Oh there you go yeah sometimes sometimes that's a good use.
- 2:24Speaker 5: Of twitter in 2026 there aren't many of them but.
- 2:27Speaker 2: That'd be one of them just maybe you know quick
- 2:29Speaker 2: hit out there just to say hey look here's what
- 2:32Speaker 2: tj likes baseball wise i'm sure i mean you grew
- 2:34Speaker 2: up in that region but that's an exciting time brian
- 2:36Speaker 2: to answer your question You know, I've never been a big.
- 2:39Speaker 4: Nick Herbig, did he fall in love with the Brewers
- 2:41Speaker 4: while he was in Madison?
- 2:42Speaker 5: I don't know about that.
- 2:43Speaker 3: Yeah, because he was born in Hawaii, right?
- 2:45Speaker 5: Yeah, so they don't have a team.
- 2:46Speaker 3: I don't think there's any baseball in Hawaii, is there?
- 2:48Speaker 4: Yeah, they're probably not even big baseball fans in general,
- 2:52Speaker 4: I would think.
- 2:53Speaker 2: I know there's not a major league baseball team there,
- 2:55Speaker 2: but you know what I meant, like an amateur team
- 2:57Speaker 2: or minor league or something.
- 2:59Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a little bit tough to travel
- 3:01Speaker 3: across seas.
- 3:01Speaker 2: But to answer your question, you know, I've never really
- 3:04Speaker 2: liked the Brewers because of the whole NL Central thing. However,
- 3:08Speaker 2: I've grown to like them this year. They've been exciting
- 3:10Speaker 2: to watch. They've been a fun bunch. They won over
- 3:11Speaker 2: 100 games. The Pirates actually, for the first time, how
- 3:14Speaker 2: about this little tidbit, actually played the Brewers the best
- 3:17Speaker 2: this year.
- 3:18Speaker 3: Than they have in a long time. They beat them
- 3:19Speaker 3: a handful of times, too.
- 3:20Speaker 2: So imagine that. Now they go on to the World Series.
- 3:24Speaker 2: And as you said, they will face the Tampa Bay
- 3:26Speaker 2: Devil Rays, who are back once again.
- 3:28Speaker 5: Maybe I'll be watching it in Paris.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Yep, you're gearing up. This is either today or tomorrow.
- 3:34Speaker 2: We'll be our last show for the week here before
- 3:36Speaker 2: we depart for Paris.
- 3:38Speaker 3: Well, you will depart for Paris.
- 3:39Speaker 5: I'll be departing for Paris Wednesday night.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Yep, I will be here holding things down at SNR
- 3:44Speaker 2: doing various things.
- 3:45Speaker 4: Steelers Saints at the Stade de France in Saint-Denis or Saint-Denis.
- 3:51Speaker 5: Depends on how you want to pronounce it.
- 3:52Speaker 6: I like it.
- 3:53Speaker 5: I mean, we say Paris.
- 3:54Speaker 4: We don't really say Paris, which is how they say it.
- 3:57Speaker 4: So I don't know what to do with it. the
- 3:59Speaker 4: city where the Stade de France is. What would you
- 4:03Speaker 4: prefer me to say, Ed?
- 4:04Speaker 6: St.
- 4:04Speaker 5: Denis or Saint-Denis?
- 4:06Speaker 3: I kind of like St. Denis. All right. That kind
- 4:09Speaker 3: of has a nice ring to it, my friend.
- 4:11Speaker 4: Actually, I don't even know if it would be St.
- 4:12Speaker 4: Denis or St. Denise in English vernacular.
- 4:17Speaker 3: Well, that's your department.
- 4:18Speaker 5: Maybe I should just say Saint-Denis.
- 4:19Speaker 3: Maybe call our friend Uncle Tommy. Maybe he would have
- 4:22Speaker 3: a little bit.
- 4:23Speaker 6: You know what?
- 4:24Speaker 4: He'd definitely have an opinion on it, that's for sure.
- 4:26Speaker 4: He'd have the right answer somehow.
- 4:28Speaker 6: Oh, boy.
- 4:29Speaker 2: Brian, yesterday Mike McCarthy spoke during his Monday press conference,
- 4:33Speaker 2: and he actually talked about preparing for the Paris game.
- 4:36Speaker 2: He said, I think just like anything, when the schedule
- 4:38Speaker 2: comes out, we're on a seven-day week flow here, meaning
- 4:43Speaker 2: basically they don't want to disrupt things.
- 4:44Speaker 5: It's football brain.
- 4:45Speaker 3: It's football.
- 4:47Speaker 4: Remember when we were going into the Thursday night game
- 4:49Speaker 4: against the team that shall not be named, but there
- 4:53Speaker 4: was a lot of talk that week about, hey, monday
- 4:56Speaker 4: is really like wednesday and tuesday is really like thursday
- 4:59Speaker 4: and friday and then wednesday is kind of like saturday
- 5:02Speaker 4: and then you go play sunday on a thursday so
- 5:06Speaker 4: coaches players in this game they're such creatures of habit
- 5:10Speaker 4: and you you're so used to structuring your week around
- 5:13Speaker 4: sundays that's i mean that's a huge difference from nba
- 5:16Speaker 4: nhl i mean i guess mlb's you're basically just playing
- 5:19Speaker 4: every day but those other sports your schedule shifts around
- 5:22Speaker 4: quite a bit and You have to prepare for back-to-backs
- 5:26Speaker 4: and things of that nature and the occasional neutral site
- 5:30Speaker 4: game when they go somewhere. But football is the one
- 5:32Speaker 4: where generally your body clock is timed for waking up
- 5:37Speaker 4: Sunday morning and I'm either playing that afternoon or that night. Now, obviously,
- 5:41Speaker 4: sometimes you get a Monday night, sometimes you get a
- 5:43Speaker 4: Thursday night, and sometimes you get an international trip, which
- 5:47Speaker 4: really throws things off as well. But it actually can
- 5:50Speaker 4: be the first international trip for Mike McCarthy.
- 5:54Speaker 5: He never did it with the Cowboys.
- 5:55Speaker 3: In his coaching career.
- 5:55Speaker 4: Yes, the Cowboys went twice, but before and after his tenure.
- 6:00Speaker 4: And then the Packers, I think, only went after his
- 6:03Speaker 4: tenure in Green Bay. But Patrick Graham has done it
- 6:06Speaker 4: three times, he pointed out. The defensive coordinator, of course,
- 6:10Speaker 4: Brian Angelico, the offensive coordinator, did it last year. He
- 6:13Speaker 4: had a most unique experience with it. The Vikings played
- 6:17Speaker 4: two international games in a row, if you remember that.
- 6:19Speaker 5: The first one, we love to remember. That's right.
- 6:21Speaker 4: I've got the hat on, the NFL Dublin game hat.
- 6:24Speaker 4: And the Steelers took care of the Vikings at Croke Park.
- 6:28Speaker 4: But then the Vikings stayed out there and went over
- 6:30Speaker 4: to London and played, I forget who, but I think
- 6:33Speaker 4: they won.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember who they played either, but I
- 6:36Speaker 2: know they stayed out there back-to-back weeks.
- 6:38Speaker 4: Angelico said he would never want to do that again,
- 6:41Speaker 4: but it was an experience, I'm sure. And he said
- 6:45Speaker 4: one thing he learned from it is just the NFL,
- 6:48Speaker 4: its teams, they do a good job of making it
- 6:51Speaker 4: seem as much like you're back at home as you
- 6:53Speaker 4: possibly can when you're across the ocean and you're five
- 6:58Speaker 4: or six time zones away. It's almost they beat the
- 7:01Speaker 4: Browns in that game, by the way, the Vikings did
- 7:03Speaker 4: in London the week after the Steelers, and then they
- 7:07Speaker 4: mercifully got there by.
- 7:08Speaker 5: But I think that is the challenge of it. Of course.
- 7:12Speaker 4: However, what I was going to say was it's almost
- 7:15Speaker 4: become routine for these because they're so common in today's NFL.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Yep.
- 7:20Speaker 4: So many teams play in the international games. You have one,
- 7:25Speaker 4: it seems like every week for a stretch here. Once
- 7:27Speaker 4: you get to like week four or five and a
- 7:30Speaker 4: lot of the players and coaches who switch teams and
- 7:33Speaker 4: even people who are in charge of operations and stuff
- 7:35Speaker 4: like that, they've probably been a part of it at
- 7:37Speaker 4: some point.
- 7:38Speaker 5: So it's, it's not that foreign.
- 7:39Speaker 4: I suppose it will be different for McCarthy in that sense,
- 7:42Speaker 4: but he's coached, you know, he brought up the point
- 7:45Speaker 4: like he's coached in the super bowl. I mean, that's
- 7:47Speaker 4: about as strange of a schedule adjustment as you can make.
- 7:49Speaker 5: You get, A whole week off.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Including the game.
- 7:52Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got media day, game day, halftimes extra long.
- 7:56Speaker 3: It's a lot to manage.
- 7:57Speaker 4: So that's a lot to manage, probably more so than
- 7:59Speaker 4: an international trip. And he mentioned, too, that he's coached
- 8:02Speaker 4: so many Thursday games. He's coached Monday night games. So
- 8:06Speaker 4: Thanksgiving Day, Thursday afternoon games on tight turnarounds. There's logistical
- 8:12Speaker 4: challenges that are unique for all of them, but the
- 8:14Speaker 4: same for all of them as well.
- 8:16Speaker 2: Speaking of which, just to go along with what you said, which,
- 8:18Speaker 2: by the way, you can read Brian Bacco's article on Steelers.com.
- 8:21Speaker 3: It goes a long way.
- 8:22Speaker 2: It's a summary of yesterday's Mike McCarthy press conference. Your point, Brian,
- 8:27Speaker 2: he did say the reality is I always try to
- 8:29Speaker 2: stick to the basics, the hydration, the sleep, just to
- 8:32Speaker 2: make sure. That's going to be huge. It always is, right,
- 8:35Speaker 2: with these players. And just to make sure. You give
- 8:39Speaker 2: the men the best opportunity to prepare, to perform, and
- 8:42Speaker 2: then ultimately stay in a normal or flow of preparation
- 8:45Speaker 2: as you can. He also added, we looked at both
- 8:47Speaker 2: options and we clearly feel that this one, leaving on Thursday,
- 8:52Speaker 2: is the best one for us.
- 8:53Speaker 3: In other words, the Saints are already there.
- 8:55Speaker 5: They left right after. Yeah, both options as in go
- 8:57Speaker 5: early versus go later.
- 8:59Speaker 3: Later in the week.
- 8:59Speaker 5: This is always a topic of discussion for these games.
- 9:02Speaker 4: It was a big one in week one, Rams versus 49ers.
- 9:05Speaker 4: The Rams took it to the extreme. Well, the NFL
- 9:08Speaker 4: took it to the extreme by having that game in Australia.
- 9:11Speaker 4: The Rams took it to the extreme as far as
- 9:12Speaker 4: trying to keep their routine over here in the U.S.
- 9:15Speaker 4: and then basically flying over there at the last possible minute,
- 9:20Speaker 4: spending one night actually in Melbourne versus where the Steelers
- 9:25Speaker 4: will be in Paris for a couple nights before they
- 9:28Speaker 4: play that game. That was the schedule they used last
- 9:30Speaker 4: year in Dublin. Obviously, McCarthy wasn't here for it, but
- 9:34Speaker 4: It's not like they came out flat. They went out there,
- 9:36Speaker 4: and if anything, they started faster than they finished that game.
- 9:40Speaker 4: If you remember, injuries set in. I think Jalen Ramsey
- 9:43Speaker 4: got dinged up in that game. I forget who else
- 9:45Speaker 4: got dinged up in that game, but they were going
- 9:48Speaker 4: through it in the secondary. But they still found a
- 9:50Speaker 4: way to hang on and beat Minnesota. Peyton Wilson running
- 9:53Speaker 4: down Jordan Addison is burned in my brain from that game,
- 9:55Speaker 4: as is DK Metcalf's 80-yard catch-and-run touchdowns. So, yeah, I mean,
- 10:02Speaker 4: there's different ways to think through it from an NFL
- 10:06Speaker 4: team perspective. This game will be another data point for that,
- 10:10Speaker 4: I suppose, with the Saints going early, Steelers going late.
- 10:13Speaker 4: But McCarthy's viewpoint, obviously the same one that his predecessor had, is,
- 10:17Speaker 4: Let's have our normal Wednesday practice. Let's have our normal
- 10:20Speaker 4: Thursday practice on the south side with everything we need.
- 10:23Speaker 4: And then, yeah, there's no avoiding a long flight. Oh,
- 10:27Speaker 4: across the pond. Your body clock's changing. You're adjusting. You're
- 10:31Speaker 4: time traveling. But then as much as you can, you
- 10:34Speaker 4: try to sleep on that flight.
- 10:35Speaker 5: And you're right. Hydration's always key. Sleep's always key.
- 10:38Speaker 4: But I would venture to guess the people behind the scenes,
- 10:41Speaker 4: the trainers, the nutritionists, dieticians, all those folks... they're hitting
- 10:46Speaker 4: that even harder this week with the players of make
- 10:48Speaker 4: sure you are.
- 10:49Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 10:50Speaker 4: Double up rest recovery as much as you possibly can
- 10:53Speaker 4: get as much sleep as you can. Now just try
- 10:55Speaker 4: to get through this game and they'll try to sleep
- 10:58Speaker 4: on the plane. But these, a lot of these guys
- 11:00Speaker 4: are six foot five, 320 pounds, you know, probably difficult
- 11:05Speaker 4: even if you have the nicest planes around.
- 11:07Speaker 5: So the biggest seat, hopefully they can.
- 11:09Speaker 4: I'm good at sleeping on planes, but I'm a smaller
- 11:11Speaker 4: guy and hopefully they can get some shut eye and
- 11:14Speaker 4: then yeah, they'll, roll out of there and do a
- 11:16Speaker 4: little bit of a practice Friday. And then they'll probably
- 11:19Speaker 4: try to get some work done on Saturday, but it's
- 11:21Speaker 4: the day before the game.
- 11:22Speaker 5: So you also got to be smart about that.
- 11:23Speaker 2: We are recapping Mike McCarthy's press conference from Monday. And again,
- 11:27Speaker 2: you can go on Steelers.com and read. It goes a
- 11:30Speaker 2: long way. That's the title, Brian, for the summary of
- 11:33Speaker 2: the press conference yesterday that you have up on Steelers.com.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Tell us about the title.
- 11:36Speaker 4: I was going to say, I suppose you could argue
- 11:39Speaker 4: that rest and recovery and hydration and all that and
- 11:41Speaker 4: sleep goes a long.
- 11:42Speaker 5: Way for this trip, but That's not what it was about.
- 11:45Speaker 4: No, it was really about how these last couple weeks
- 11:48Speaker 4: that I've noticed in the photos and stuff tweeted out
- 11:52Speaker 4: and posted by the Steelers. Jamel Dean looked like he
- 11:55Speaker 4: was talking to the whole locker room after walking in
- 11:58Speaker 4: that trap and taking over that trap in Tampa. Michael
- 12:01Speaker 4: Pittman Jr. doing the same thing the week prior at
- 12:03Speaker 4: Accresure Stadium after a win over the Colts, even though.
- 12:05Speaker 5: He didn't play in that game. But I think we
- 12:07Speaker 5: talked about it on the air.
- 12:09Speaker 4: You're rallying around these new players who are new to
- 12:12Speaker 4: the organization and I'm sure there were some relationships that
- 12:15Speaker 4: a few guys had here and there with those two.
- 12:17Speaker 4: But by and large, the Cam Haywards of the world
- 12:21Speaker 4: and TJ Watts and Jalen Ramsey and Aaron Rodgers, they
- 12:24Speaker 4: never played with Michael Pittman Jr.
- 12:26Speaker 5: Or Jamel Dean.
- 12:27Speaker 4: So they're welcoming them into the Steelers. And then it
- 12:31Speaker 4: really goes up another notch when you go out there
- 12:33Speaker 4: and you get a win over Pittman's former team. You
- 12:37Speaker 4: go out there, you get a win over Dean's former team.
- 12:39Speaker 4: Dean was able to factor into it prominently. And when
- 12:42Speaker 4: I asked McCarthy about that yesterday, I think you could
- 12:44Speaker 4: just kind of see the grin forming on his face of, yeah,
- 12:47Speaker 4: that's what it's all about in the locker room. Intangibles
- 12:51Speaker 4: and guys liking each other, does that have any direct
- 12:54Speaker 4: effect on winning games?
- 12:56Speaker 5: Not necessarily. You need to go out there and execute.
- 12:58Speaker 4: And the scheme needs to be good, and you need
- 13:00Speaker 4: to outplay the guys across from you no matter what.
- 13:03Speaker 4: But it's just one of those things that it helps
- 13:05Speaker 4: you build a culture, and it helps you grow as
- 13:07Speaker 4: a team. And I think Moments like that can help
- 13:10Speaker 4: you get through these tough stretches in a season when
- 13:12Speaker 4: you're going from playing on the road in Tampa to
- 13:14Speaker 4: playing on the road in Paris back-to-back weeks.
- 13:16Speaker 3: Going across the Atlantic Ocean.
- 13:19Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy spoke about taking steps in his program, and
- 13:23Speaker 2: that's how he looks at it, Brian, taking steps and
- 13:24Speaker 2: building a program here in his first year coaching. And
- 13:28Speaker 2: he said afterwards, ultimately we're judged on our performance, but
- 13:31Speaker 2: the ability to give guys opportunities. He, meaning Jamel Dean,
- 13:35Speaker 2: was a captain this week, and then to have that
- 13:38Speaker 2: huge play in the game and win a game ball,
- 13:41Speaker 2: got the game ball afterwards.
- 13:42Speaker 4: Jeremy Bernard got the offensive game ball, too, he mentioned.
- 13:46Speaker 4: McCarthy's been pretty cool, I think, about pulling back the
- 13:49Speaker 4: curtain for us a little bit. Mike Tomlin would do
- 13:52Speaker 4: that here and there, but I'd say not as much.
- 13:56Speaker 4: That's what coaching's all about. He didn't say that. He
- 13:58Speaker 4: said that's what the locker room's all about from my perspective.
- 14:00Speaker 4: He wouldn't say this about himself, but it's kind of
- 14:02Speaker 4: what coaching is about, too, is pushing those right buttons.
- 14:06Speaker 4: We know that he's liked the weekly... captain idea and
- 14:10Speaker 4: yeah we have to yeah and you're just you're as
- 14:14Speaker 4: a coach at any level ed you've coached me not
- 14:17Speaker 4: so much maybe when my kids get older but you
- 14:18Speaker 4: will be you're trying to it's coming you're trying to
- 14:20Speaker 4: pull some strings right to get the best out of
- 14:22Speaker 4: your players whether it's something that you think is corny
- 14:25Speaker 4: or hokey or it's a little thing a minor thing
- 14:27Speaker 4: that you just maybe that gives us a little bit
- 14:29Speaker 4: extra oomph as far as a mentality standpoint now a
- 14:33Speaker 4: huge part of mike mccarthy's job is calling the offensive
- 14:36Speaker 4: plays designing the game plan and figuring out who he's
- 14:39Speaker 4: going to play and how much. But another part of it, too,
- 14:42Speaker 4: is that that which cannot be measured, as Mike Tomlin
- 14:46Speaker 4: used to put it from his standpoint.
- 14:49Speaker 2: Good stuff, my friend. Make sure you check it out
- 14:52Speaker 2: on Steelers.com. Brian Batko's article is up. Whenever we come back,
- 14:55Speaker 2: we're going to hear from the coordinators. What did Patrick
- 14:57Speaker 2: Graham have to say? Brian Angelico, maybe even Danny Crossman.
- 15:01Speaker 2: We'll hear some special teams talk as well as coming
- 15:03Speaker 2: up in our number two today. It's our top 10
- 15:06Speaker 2: moments and plays from this past Sunday. And then we'll
- 15:09Speaker 2: finish up the show today as we welcome in Jim Wexel.
- 15:11Speaker 3: That's right.
- 15:12Speaker 2: He's a Steelers.com contributing writer, also editor and publisher of
- 15:16Speaker 2: Steel City Insider.
- 15:18Speaker 6: He's back.
- 15:18Speaker 3: Oh, I'm troop.
- 15:19Speaker 2: It's the Steelers report right here on Steelers nation radio,
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- 15:29Speaker 1: This is the Steelers report with Brian Bacco and Ed
- 15:33Speaker 1: Troop on Steelers nation radio, a part of the Steelers
- 15:37Speaker 1: audio network.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Double B. Jeremy Bernard earned a game ball yesterday. We
- 15:44Speaker 3: talked about Jamel.
- 15:45Speaker 2: Dean getting the defensive game ball. You mentioned it, the
- 15:48Speaker 2: offensive game ball going to Bernard. And Coach Mike McCarthy
- 15:52Speaker 2: said in his press conference that speaks volumes about where
- 15:55Speaker 2: he is and on his climb and his contribution to
- 15:59Speaker 2: the offense. You know, Jalen Warren was the hot topic
- 16:02Speaker 2: the last couple weeks for all the SNR shows. I
- 16:05Speaker 2: think Jeremy Bernard's probably now taking that top spot.
- 16:09Speaker 5: Yeah, man, he's on fire.
- 16:10Speaker 4: Um, if you're a fantasy football manager, if you didn't
- 16:15Speaker 4: jump on it early, you probably opened up your app
- 16:17Speaker 4: this morning. Who do you want to put in a,
- 16:19Speaker 4: a waiver claim for? And I bet G Bernard is
- 16:22Speaker 4: right at the top of your list. He's rolling right now. And, uh, it's,
- 16:26Speaker 4: it's great to see because, you know, I mentioned this before,
- 16:30Speaker 4: you know, you think back to 2026 draft and there's
- 16:34Speaker 4: so much, uh, talk around what kind of receiver should
- 16:38Speaker 4: the Steelers take how early how high should they take
- 16:41Speaker 4: one I think Omar Khan was was very patient on
- 16:44Speaker 4: that front but we spent a lot of time discussing
- 16:48Speaker 4: Jordan Tyson who ended up with the Saints but Steelers
- 16:51Speaker 4: probably won't see him this weekend he's on injured reserve
- 16:53Speaker 4: he might be back soon but His rookie career got
- 16:56Speaker 4: off to a snake-bitten start, unfortunately, because he was really
- 16:59Speaker 4: fun to watch at Arizona State when he was healthy.
- 17:01Speaker 4: But he had some issues on that front, too. So
- 17:03Speaker 4: still hasn't even made his NFL debut. There was Makai
- 17:05Speaker 4: Lemon was out there. He hasn't done much so far
- 17:08Speaker 4: with the Eagles, who their season has just been nightmarish
- 17:12Speaker 4: thus far. Really scary stuff with Jalen Hurts. Just from
- 17:17Speaker 4: a human perspective, you hope he's going to be okay.
- 17:21Speaker 4: Casey Concepcion and Denzel Boston, both of whom were taken
- 17:23Speaker 4: before Jeremy Bernard.
- 17:24Speaker 5: I think the Browns are happy with those choices.
- 17:27Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been impressive.
- 17:29Speaker 4: Yeah, but they were gone before the Steelers were on
- 17:30Speaker 4: the clock in the second round.
- 17:31Speaker 5: And then Omar Cooper was another one.
- 17:34Speaker 4: He missed four or five games there, but actually just
- 17:37Speaker 4: came back and had a big game for the Jets
- 17:39Speaker 4: most recently.
- 17:40Speaker 5: He was a first-rounder.
- 17:40Speaker 4: And then the Niners took Dajon Stribling with the first
- 17:44Speaker 4: pick of the second round, which stunned people around the
- 17:47Speaker 4: NFL draft ecosystem.
- 17:50Speaker 5: And he got injured, I believe, in week one.
- 17:52Speaker 4: Then you get to Bernard. And like we said yesterday,
- 17:55Speaker 4: he's been really as good as any of those guys.
- 17:57Speaker 4: Off to a bit slower start than Boston or Concepcion.
- 18:01Speaker 4: But he's starting to catch up. And, you know, Carnell
- 18:04Speaker 4: Tate was so out of reach. I think we kind
- 18:06Speaker 4: of knew that all along. And he's been good for
- 18:08Speaker 4: the Titans. But, yeah, we didn't know which of those
- 18:12Speaker 4: half dozen or so names that I just rattled off
- 18:14Speaker 4: there would end up with the Steelers.
- 18:16Speaker 5: I think they got a good one, though, Ed. And,
- 18:18Speaker 5: you know, I think we all kind of Saw that.
- 18:20Speaker 4: The more we looked into him upon the Steelers taking
- 18:22Speaker 4: him in the second round. And sure seems like Jeremy
- 18:25Speaker 4: Bernard's got versatility. He's got run after catch ability. He's reliable.
- 18:30Speaker 4: I think the drops, you're going to see those decrease
- 18:33Speaker 4: just the more that he plays. And Aaron Rodgers is
- 18:37Speaker 4: on the same page with the rookie, which is the
- 18:39Speaker 4: big thing to always wonder about for any rookie receiver,
- 18:42Speaker 4: but especially one who's playing with Aaron Rodgers where the
- 18:45Speaker 4: expectations and the standards change. are so high on all
- 18:48Speaker 4: the intricacies of what he does play to play.
- 18:50Speaker 2: 21 targets the last two games for Jeremy Bernard going
- 18:55Speaker 2: back to the Colts game this past week against Tampa Bay.
- 18:58Speaker 2: He adds into that stat total 17 receptions, 11 of
- 19:01Speaker 2: those this past week, Brian, and 167 yards receiving. He
- 19:06Speaker 2: had his first career touchdown this past week. So Bernard,
- 19:08Speaker 2: has certainly earned that right now as a talk track. And,
- 19:12Speaker 2: you know, he can continue to take advantage of the
- 19:14Speaker 2: DK Metcalf situation. And when I say situation, you know,
- 19:17Speaker 2: DK is going to draw, at least for now, the
- 19:20Speaker 2: top defensive back on the other side, maybe even some
- 19:22Speaker 2: double coverage. And that's been what we've been stressing about
- 19:25Speaker 2: the number two wide receiver in this offense and how
- 19:27Speaker 2: important that is for them to be effective because that
- 19:30Speaker 2: might take some of the heat off DK. And now
- 19:32Speaker 2: all of a sudden DK gets open and it's not
- 19:34Speaker 2: as much stress on him from a defensive standpoint of
- 19:37Speaker 2: doubling down on DK. Bernard, I think, has a great
- 19:40Speaker 2: opportunity in front of him. In the last two games,
- 19:43Speaker 2: he's taken advantage of those opportunities.
- 19:45Speaker 4: And the coaches and players have talked from the beginning
- 19:47Speaker 4: about how confident he was coming in here how prepared
- 19:52Speaker 4: he was how mentally ready he was to pick up
- 19:55Speaker 4: on everything that goes along with the nfl game but
- 19:58Speaker 4: physically too i think it just goes to show that
- 20:01Speaker 4: he was ready for nfl football A lot of the
- 20:05Speaker 4: rookie receivers I just mentioned dealt with injuries earlier in
- 20:08Speaker 4: the season. Obviously, you can't always control whether you get
- 20:11Speaker 4: hurt or not, but Bernard's a sturdy guy, and we
- 20:14Speaker 4: saw that in his physique when the Steelers drafted him
- 20:18Speaker 4: and certainly in between OTAs and showing up for training
- 20:20Speaker 4: camp out at St.
- 20:22Speaker 5: Vincent College in Latrobe.
- 20:24Speaker 4: You look back, Roman Wilson, it stunk for him that
- 20:27Speaker 4: his rookie year never really got off the ground because
- 20:29Speaker 4: of that ankle injury early in training camp.
- 20:32Speaker 5: Bernard has stayed healthy.
- 20:34Speaker 4: The best ability is availability, but now he's getting a
- 20:37Speaker 4: chance to show all of his other abilities when he's
- 20:40Speaker 4: actually on the field.
- 20:41Speaker 2: And with that, you can also make the case that
- 20:43Speaker 2: DK Metcalf's production picked up this past week. 11 receptions,
- 20:47Speaker 2: 93 yards. Look, they can go also with the tight
- 20:51Speaker 2: end situation too, Brian. We talk so much about the
- 20:55Speaker 2: 3rd and 4th wide receiver in the injury situation. in
- 20:58Speaker 2: that room right now for wide receivers but you know
- 21:01Speaker 2: look you got two of the top tight ends in
- 21:03Speaker 2: the league too and they took advantage of that with
- 21:05Speaker 2: Darnell Washington this past week four catches 25 yards but
- 21:07Speaker 2: the important stat is that touchdown that he took in
- 21:10Speaker 2: did Darnell Washington this past week a key one a
- 21:13Speaker 2: five yarder there in the second half Pat Fryermuth was
- 21:16Speaker 2: was active the week before had five catches for 44
- 21:19Speaker 2: yards and two touchdowns against the Colts while this week
- 21:22Speaker 2: not as active two catches for only 11 yards but
- 21:24Speaker 2: I can see that going forward with the success of
- 21:27Speaker 2: Metcalf bernard and also washington and muth being part of that.
- 21:32Speaker 4: Yeah i wonder too how much pat was maybe limited
- 21:35Speaker 4: by the calf uh that's right he was banged up
- 21:37Speaker 4: questionable and i also wonder too some people highlighted the
- 21:41Speaker 4: stealer struggles in short yardage and then obviously uh mike
- 21:44Speaker 4: mccarthy mentioned this at his monday presser too that you
- 21:47Speaker 4: know he was asked about third downs again like third
- 21:49Speaker 4: and six he's like i want to be better at
- 21:50Speaker 4: third and one because they they didn't convert all that
- 21:53Speaker 4: but i do wonder you know what was the was
- 21:57Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh.
- 21:58Speaker 5: Pat plunge off the table because of that, that calf.
- 22:02Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 22:02Speaker 4: I'm just, I'm just speculating on that front because he
- 22:05Speaker 4: came in questionable and that's obviously a physically grueling play
- 22:10Speaker 4: to line up under center, take the snap and try
- 22:12Speaker 4: to push.
- 22:14Speaker 5: I mean, that's the biggest part of that play for him, right?
- 22:16Speaker 4: Is taking that snap and then pushing off that back
- 22:19Speaker 4: leg and, and trying to convert. So, um, I think
- 22:23Speaker 4: with Metcalf and Bernard, it's really a case of one
- 22:26Speaker 4: hand washes the other. Metcalf is attracting so much attention
- 22:31Speaker 4: that frees up Bernard to get single coverage or sit
- 22:35Speaker 4: down against the zone. But the more Bernard produces, teams
- 22:39Speaker 4: are going to have to account for him unless they
- 22:40Speaker 4: want to give up 11 for 87 again or maybe
- 22:43Speaker 4: even a more dynamic stat line as this season progresses.
- 22:48Speaker 4: That's really what the Steelers have been looking for. They
- 22:49Speaker 4: thought they were going to have it in Michael Pittman Jr.,
- 22:52Speaker 4: this season, bringing him in and free eight or via trade,
- 22:54Speaker 4: excuse me, from the Colts. Obviously he's on injured reserve,
- 22:59Speaker 4: so can't do much about that, but good thing. Bernard
- 23:02Speaker 4: has been ready and able to take on the mantle
- 23:05Speaker 4: as soon as it presented itself.
- 23:06Speaker 2: The other part of the Pittsburgh Steelers offense, of course,
- 23:09Speaker 2: is the running game. We know about Jalen Warren and
- 23:11Speaker 2: the success that he's had the last few weeks. He
- 23:13Speaker 2: had 14 carries for 50 yards on Sunday. Rico Dowdle,
- 23:16Speaker 2: first game back, Brian, I wanted to ask you about Dowdle.
- 23:18Speaker 2: We talked a little bit about him yesterday. But seven carries,
- 23:21Speaker 2: 40 yards. I thought he looked pretty good in his
- 23:23Speaker 2: first game back with that revamped offensive line. Remember, the
- 23:26Speaker 2: first couple games of the season, look, first, he didn't
- 23:28Speaker 2: get the looks probably as much as he could have contributed.
- 23:32Speaker 3: But a lot of that was the early looks he got.
- 23:34Speaker 3: He didn't really go anywhere.
- 23:36Speaker 2: But he was up against– he was using that old– well,
- 23:39Speaker 2: he wasn't using it. The Steelers were using their old
- 23:41Speaker 2: offensive line. Now enter Brock Hoffman, Maxi Onachor. We know
- 23:45Speaker 2: this was their fourth straight game together. I think Warren
- 23:48Speaker 2: has been able to take advantage of that, and now
- 23:50Speaker 2: I thought Rico Dowdle on Sunday was able to take
- 23:52Speaker 2: advantage of that.
- 23:53Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely.
- 23:54Speaker 4: I don't think it's a negative that Jalen Warren's touches
- 23:58Speaker 4: were down a little bit. I think it's a positive
- 24:00Speaker 4: that Dowdle came back. We didn't really know what to
- 24:05Speaker 4: expect from Dowdle in his first game back. We didn't
- 24:07Speaker 4: see much in the first– Game and a half before
- 24:10Speaker 4: the toe injury, because that second half of the Patriots game,
- 24:12Speaker 4: he was obviously hobbled and just trying to play through it.
- 24:17Speaker 4: But we hadn't seen much. He didn't have much room
- 24:20Speaker 4: to run either. And then he misses three games. What's
- 24:24Speaker 4: he going to look like? Are those first carries going
- 24:25Speaker 4: to be kind of like, you know, he's he's not
- 24:28Speaker 4: he's far from 100 percent.
- 24:29Speaker 5: But that wasn't the case at all. He looked really good.
- 24:31Speaker 5: He looked spry.
- 24:32Speaker 6: I thought so.
- 24:32Speaker 4: And he looked even more explosive than we saw in
- 24:35Speaker 4: the season opener against the Falcons when he was fully healthy.
- 24:38Speaker 4: So he earned more carries throughout the course of that game.
- 24:42Speaker 4: And I know the catch 22 of this is you
- 24:46Speaker 4: want number 30 to get the ball a lot because
- 24:50Speaker 4: good things have happened. Just look back at the Colts game,
- 24:53Speaker 4: the Bengals game before that. But it's not realistic to
- 24:57Speaker 4: just run them out there for 100% of the snaps
- 25:00Speaker 4: every game. You can't do that with any running back.
- 25:03Speaker 4: So it's really nice to have Dowdle now as a
- 25:06Speaker 4: compliment to Warren. I would understand any Steelers fan or
- 25:10Speaker 4: certainly the people who are really hot under the collar
- 25:12Speaker 4: about this or the Jalen Warren fantasy coaches out there.
- 25:16Speaker 4: But I understand, hey, he needs as many touches as possible.
- 25:20Speaker 4: But you got to be realistic.
- 25:21Speaker 5: You got to be smart. It's a long season.
- 25:23Speaker 4: Maybe he's earned more of a share of them than
- 25:25Speaker 4: we thought coming into it. But I still think Dowdle
- 25:28Speaker 4: needs to be a presence in this backfield.
- 25:30Speaker 2: Yeah, Dowdle seven carries for the 40 yards. So 90
- 25:33Speaker 2: yards combined, Brian, between Warren and Dowdle.
- 25:35Speaker 3: That's great stuff. The Steelers averaging four yards per carry.
- 25:39Speaker 3: That's up.
- 25:40Speaker 2: Well, it's been up the last couple weeks just because
- 25:41Speaker 2: of the dynamic of Jalen Warren and the numbers he's
- 25:44Speaker 2: put up. But if you look back when Warren and
- 25:46Speaker 2: Dowdle both rushed together those first two games. man, it
- 25:50Speaker 2: was like, what, 1.82 yards per carry. It was really down.
- 25:53Speaker 3: So now to see that number at four and probably
- 25:55Speaker 3: growing is a good thing. And I'm with you. We
- 25:58Speaker 3: mentioned it last week.
- 25:59Speaker 2: Jalen Warren, for as good as he is, any running
- 26:02Speaker 2: back in the NFL cannot take on that type of
- 26:04Speaker 2: workload for an entire NFL season. So when you enter
- 26:07Speaker 2: a guy like Rico Dottle and he can take some
- 26:10Speaker 2: of that off, look, I'm not talking 50-50 split. We
- 26:12Speaker 2: mentioned that going into this season. I think that's off
- 26:14Speaker 2: the table. I think Warren has earned more of the
- 26:17Speaker 2: share of these carries. But Rico Dowdle will keep him healthy.
- 26:20Speaker 2: And if something happens to Warren, now you have Rico
- 26:22Speaker 2: Dowdle who's ready to go.
- 26:23Speaker 3: He has the reps. He's not sitting on the sideline watching.
- 26:26Speaker 4: Two things Mike McCarthy made pretty clear Monday as far
- 26:29Speaker 4: as the running back situation. He likes both guys, which
- 26:32Speaker 4: we've known since they signed Dowdle, and wants both to
- 26:35Speaker 4: touch the ball. And two, he wants to run the
- 26:38Speaker 4: ball more. So it's not a matter of, hey, we
- 26:40Speaker 4: want to keep the same amount of carries, but we
- 26:42Speaker 4: want to give Dowdle a higher percentage of the split there. Like, no,
- 26:46Speaker 4: I think he wants more carries overall and that would
- 26:49Speaker 4: mean more for both Warren and Dowdlewood.
- 26:52Speaker 2: That was some of the offensive highlights from this past weekend. Defensively,
- 26:55Speaker 2: we touched on Jamel Dean in the last segment to
- 26:58Speaker 2: open up the show today, but Jalen Ramsey, my goodness,
- 27:01Speaker 2: two sacks, four tackle for losses, ten total tackles, finished
- 27:04Speaker 2: the game with the overtime sack on fourth down.
- 27:08Speaker 3: Look, Jalen Ramsey.
- 27:09Speaker 2: Not just playing at an AFC pro ball level, Brian,
- 27:13Speaker 2: he's looking like an all-pro type level so far this
- 27:16Speaker 2: season because I've been talking about it all year. When
- 27:19Speaker 2: you look at the backfield of an opponent, number five
- 27:22Speaker 2: is usually in the vicinity, maybe even in on the play.
- 27:26Speaker 4: Yeah, he is really good as far as making this
- 27:30Speaker 4: transition from playing on the perimeter in the NFL. And
- 27:33Speaker 4: this was something that the more I looked into it,
- 27:35Speaker 4: I mean, he'd started evolving really kind of at the
- 27:38Speaker 4: early part of this decade. Primarily when he went from
- 27:41Speaker 4: the Jags to the Rams, the Rams started using him
- 27:43Speaker 4: in some different ways and then the Dolphins as well.
- 27:45Speaker 4: But I think he's fully into this mode now with
- 27:50Speaker 4: the Steelers. And I think this was the plan from
- 27:52Speaker 4: the Steelers perspective going back to last year when they
- 27:54Speaker 4: traded Mika Fitzpatrick for him.
- 27:56Speaker 5: Then things happened.
- 27:57Speaker 4: A lot of things happened in the secondary and it
- 27:59Speaker 4: didn't really get a chance to materialize all the way
- 28:01Speaker 4: for Ramsey, at least not throughout the course of the
- 28:04Speaker 4: entire season because the safety play wasn't quite up to snuff.
- 28:08Speaker 5: Deshaun Elliott got hurt.
- 28:09Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 28:10Speaker 4: Now, though, I think the vision from last season, albeit
- 28:13Speaker 4: with a different coaching staff, is back because Jalen Ramsey
- 28:16Speaker 4: just fits so well into that role. Mike McCarthy called
- 28:19Speaker 4: him a multidimensional player. And the big thing, we talked
- 28:23Speaker 4: a lot yesterday, and I talked with Vince and Tom
- 28:26Speaker 4: on the Blitz about it.
- 28:27Speaker 5: His physical traits lend itself to that so well.
- 28:30Speaker 4: But both McCarthy and Patrick Graham really wanted to point
- 28:33Speaker 4: out his football IQ is is so high. It's on
- 28:36Speaker 4: the ceiling, and that allows you to move all around
- 28:40Speaker 4: the defense. I think it allows you to take some chances, too,
- 28:43Speaker 4: that aren't necessarily in black and white and schemed up,
- 28:47Speaker 4: but it's an instinctual thing.
- 28:49Speaker 5: It's a feel for the game.
- 28:51Speaker 4: Troy Polamalu was famous for that freelancing, and I think
- 28:54Speaker 4: the more Ramsey is in this defense, the even more
- 28:58Speaker 4: comfortable he'll get doing some of that stuff.
- 29:00Speaker 3: He loves the game of football.
- 29:02Speaker 2: You know, he's talked to, you know, during his interviews
- 29:05Speaker 2: this year and last year, at least here in Pittsburgh,
- 29:07Speaker 2: that he's just a baller. He's a dude that loves
- 29:10Speaker 2: playing this sport. And you can see it each and
- 29:12Speaker 2: every time. I loved when he took the helmet off
- 29:14Speaker 2: at the end of the game because the game was over.
- 29:15Speaker 2: Can't take your helmet off during the game.
- 29:17Speaker 3: That's a penalty. That's a no-no. So he knew the rules, too, there.
- 29:19Speaker 5: Football IQ.
- 29:20Speaker 3: It's overtime.
- 29:21Speaker 5: Game was over.
- 29:22Speaker 3: He knew what to do.
- 29:24Speaker 2: But a walk-off defensive ending to that game on Sunday
- 29:28Speaker 2: with Jalen Warren with the big sack. And remember, Brian,
- 29:30Speaker 2: he started his Steeler career game number one last year
- 29:34Speaker 2: in New York with a similar play. Knocked up the,
- 29:37Speaker 2: uh what was that Garrett Wilson I think was the
- 29:38Speaker 2: intended receiver.
- 29:39Speaker 4: It was ran uh it was Ramsey who hit Garrett
- 29:42Speaker 4: Wilson yeah to clinch that game yep he had three
- 29:44Speaker 4: sacks last season with the Steelers two in one game
- 29:47Speaker 4: against the Browns obviously had another multi-sack game yesterday I
- 29:51Speaker 4: gotta think that uh he's he's on pace to eclipse
- 29:54Speaker 4: that mark and Set a career high in sacks, considering
- 29:57Speaker 4: he never even had a sack in the NFL until
- 29:59Speaker 4: 2022 in L.A.
- 30:00Speaker 2: Just an amazing player and a big part of this defense.
- 30:02Speaker 2: And now you can start to get greedy. Does Deshaun
- 30:05Speaker 2: Elliott enter the picture as early as this upcoming weekend?
- 30:09Speaker 3: 21-day clock is ticking.
- 30:11Speaker 6: Yes, it is.
- 30:12Speaker 4: He posted on Instagram Tuesday morning a photo of him
- 30:15Speaker 4: hitting the Irish jig last year in Dublin and said,
- 30:18Speaker 4: last time we went across the pond. Obviously, he had
- 30:22Speaker 4: a big game that day against Minnesota.
- 30:25Speaker 5: He had a pick, and he was flying all over
- 30:27Speaker 5: the field.
- 30:28Speaker 2: We'll see if he enters this upcoming weekend for the
- 30:31Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers.
- 30:32Speaker 3: He is in that 21-day window. He's nearing the end
- 30:34Speaker 3: of it.
- 30:36Speaker 2: Brian, real quick before we go to break, I do
- 30:37Speaker 2: want to ask you about that 21-day window, though, because
- 30:39Speaker 2: I've seen two different reports on that. One is that
- 30:44Speaker 2: he has to be activated by this game on Sunday.
- 30:46Speaker 2: The other is when they started the 21-day window, it
- 30:48Speaker 2: was later in the week before that first game, so
- 30:51Speaker 2: they can technically wait until after this game as long
- 30:53Speaker 2: as it's within a few days to activate him for
- 30:55Speaker 2: the following game against the Browns.
- 30:57Speaker 5: The latter is the case here.
- 31:00Speaker 2: So I think that's being tangled up out and about,
- 31:03Speaker 2: maybe on social media, that he has to be activated
- 31:05Speaker 2: for this Sunday.
- 31:06Speaker 3: He does not.
- 31:06Speaker 2: He can actually not play this Sunday as long as
- 31:09Speaker 2: he's activated next week.
- 31:10Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just straight up 21 days, I believe, is
- 31:13Speaker 4: the way that rule is written.
- 31:14Speaker 2: And that's a smart way to go around that rule, right?
- 31:16Speaker 2: Wait until the middle of the week, activate it, and
- 31:19Speaker 2: then you get an extra game.
- 31:20Speaker 4: Yeah, because it factors into the roster decisions that you're
- 31:23Speaker 4: going to make for Sunday in Paris with practice squad
- 31:26Speaker 4: elevations and whatnot.
- 31:27Speaker 2: Whenever we come back, we will hear from defensive coordinator
- 31:30Speaker 2: Patrick Graham.
- 31:32Speaker 3: He spoke yesterday. Absolutely.
- 31:34Speaker 2: One of our favorite segments of the week is to
- 31:35Speaker 2: hear from Coach Graham.
- 31:36Speaker 3: That's for sure.
- 31:37Speaker 6: I'm E.T.
- 31:38Speaker 5: He's B.B.
- 31:38Speaker 2: It is the Steelers Report right here on Steelers Nation Radio,
- 31:41Speaker 2: part of the Steelers Audio Network.
- 31:50Speaker 1: It's the Steelers Report with Brian Batko and Ed Troup
- 31:54Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers Audio Network.
- 31:59Speaker 2: Wrapping up our number one here on the Steelers Report.
- 32:03Speaker 2: Flying right by Brian Batko and you're having fun, I guess, right?
- 32:06Speaker 5: We are flying by and I'll be flying out. to
- 32:10Speaker 5: Paris in about 30 hours, I suppose.
- 32:14Speaker 2: Yeah, you're closing in, my friend. What are you looking
- 32:17Speaker 2: for the most as far as food goes? You know,
- 32:19Speaker 2: I'm a food guy. You're a food guy, too. You
- 32:21Speaker 2: always like to check out the local stuff.
- 32:23Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely.
- 32:23Speaker 3: You got a plan?
- 32:24Speaker 5: I'm not very picky. I've got a pretty diverse palate,
- 32:28Speaker 5: I would say. I didn't used to be, though. So
- 32:30Speaker 5: anyone out there who's like me and your kids.
- 32:31Speaker 4: Are super picky and they only eat chicken nuggets and
- 32:35Speaker 4: french fries, everybody tells me that was me growing up.
- 32:38Speaker 5: And now I'll try pretty much anything.
- 32:40Speaker 4: Vince Williams and Tom Offerman and I were discussing this
- 32:42Speaker 4: on the Blitz yesterday when I popped on with them
- 32:44Speaker 4: because Vince is a well-traveled man, a cultured man himself.
- 32:49Speaker 5: He's been over to Europe, and we were.
- 32:50Speaker 4: Saying that we're not real big on the whole beef
- 32:53Speaker 4: tartare idea, which is sort of like just chopped up
- 32:57Speaker 4: raw meat, but they do that over there.
- 33:00Speaker 5: It's a delicacy.
- 33:01Speaker 3: You lost me at raw meat.
- 33:02Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 33:04Speaker 3: Even my steak, I like a little bit of red
- 33:06Speaker 3: but not bleeding.
- 33:07Speaker 5: I forget the other one.
- 33:08Speaker 4: Pate i guess which is kind of like uh meat
- 33:12Speaker 4: paste i've had that over here in pittsburgh you lost
- 33:15Speaker 4: me at meat paste not my thing foie gras is
- 33:18Speaker 4: another one okay all right which is like fattened duck
- 33:21Speaker 4: and goose liver you.
- 33:23Speaker 8: Lost me at liver i don't know that i've ever
- 33:25Speaker 8: tried for three for me a lot of this stuff
- 33:27Speaker 8: i've only been to paris once with my wife and
- 33:29Speaker 8: she wouldn't let me try a lot of it um
- 33:32Speaker 8: i would try foie gras i would and i would
- 33:35Speaker 8: try escargot and i would try caviar But I've never
- 33:40Speaker 8: tried any.
- 33:40Speaker 3: Of those three.
- 33:40Speaker 5: So I'm willing to.
- 33:42Speaker 4: As far as what I'm looking forward to, you can't
- 33:44Speaker 4: go wrong with steak frites, which is steak and fries
- 33:48Speaker 4: in France.
- 33:49Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Now you're speaking my language.
- 33:51Speaker 6: Medium.
- 33:51Speaker 5: That translates across.
- 33:53Speaker 6: All continents, I believe.
- 33:55Speaker 3: You a medium guy.
- 33:55Speaker 6: On your steak? Yes, I am. Yes.
- 33:57Speaker 8: My man.
- 33:58Speaker 4: And then croque monsieur and croque madame. That's like their
- 34:04Speaker 4: ham and cheese sandwiches with like an egg on top.
- 34:07Speaker 4: What's the difference between croque madame? Croque madame is hot
- 34:13Speaker 4: ham and cheese sandwich with like a sauce on it
- 34:17Speaker 4: and then a fried or poached egg on top.
- 34:20Speaker 5: And then the croque monsieur.
- 34:21Speaker 3: Sounds like a Permanee Brothers sandwich.
- 34:23Speaker 4: A little bit, yeah, like French Permanees. Croque monsieur. Wait,
- 34:26Speaker 4: what's the difference here? I'm trying to figure this out. Oh,
- 34:30Speaker 4: maybe that one does not have the egg. I think
- 34:32Speaker 4: that's the case. I think you add the egg, it
- 34:34Speaker 4: becomes a croque madame.
- 34:35Speaker 3: So you're going to add the egg?
- 34:37Speaker 4: I had both when I was in France about a
- 34:39Speaker 4: decade ago, and they were both fantastic.
- 34:41Speaker 3: They're good?
- 34:42Speaker 6: Okay.
- 34:43Speaker 3: I might give that a try. I'm not a seafood guy,
- 34:45Speaker 3: so bread, cheese.
- 34:46Speaker 5: And ham.
- 34:47Speaker 4: I mean, regardless of what country is preparing it, I
- 34:50Speaker 4: think that's going to hit nine times out of ten.
- 34:52Speaker 3: By the way, I just said Cavalier, like the Cleveland Cavaliers.
- 34:55Speaker 5: Instead of what? Caviar?
- 34:56Speaker 3: Caviar, yeah. How about that? But anybody catch that out there?
- 34:59Speaker 5: Cavalier, that's like a French word too, isn't it though?
- 35:01Speaker 3: I think it is. And it is the kickoff of
- 35:02Speaker 3: the NBA season today.
- 35:04Speaker 5: I did not know that.
- 35:05Speaker 3: Yeah, it starts today.
- 35:06Speaker 2: And I think, and I'd have to look this up,
- 35:08Speaker 2: it's either on Peacock or NBC, but the way they
- 35:10Speaker 2: were advertising it this morning on the news was, I
- 35:12Speaker 2: think it's going to be on NBC.
- 35:13Speaker 3: There's like a triple header. Normally that's a Sunday triple header.
- 35:16Speaker 5: I just pulled it up.
- 35:17Speaker 3: Is it on NBC?
- 35:17Speaker 5: Celtics Pistons is starting momentarily.
- 35:20Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 35:21Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, 3 o'clock tip on a Tuesday.
- 35:23Speaker 3: On national TV, on NBC.
- 35:26Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 35:26Speaker 3: All three.
- 35:27Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Thunder Spurs. That's a pretty darn good slate.
- 35:31Speaker 4: Celtics Pistons, I don't, eh, whatever.
- 35:34Speaker 3: That's an old school.
- 35:35Speaker 5: They're a big brand. That's an old school one, yeah.
- 35:37Speaker 6: 76ers, Knicks.
- 35:38Speaker 3: Got LeBron now in Philly.
- 35:40Speaker 5: Le debut of LeBron.
- 35:41Speaker 3: In Madison Square Garden.
- 35:42Speaker 4: Thunder Spurs, which I think is going to be the
- 35:44Speaker 4: Western Conference Finals for the.
- 35:45Speaker 5: Next X amount of years.
- 35:47Speaker 3: I'm with you there. That's a good point.
- 35:49Speaker 5: It was last year, right?
- 35:50Speaker 6: It was.
- 35:51Speaker 3: It sure was.
- 35:52Speaker 2: All right, let's hear from Patrick Graham.
- 35:54Speaker 3: Maybe he talked about the NBA yesterday.
- 35:56Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 35:57Speaker 3: Or maybe he talked about.
- 35:58Speaker 2: The French cuisine that he will be trying to get
- 36:01Speaker 2: while he's over there this upcoming weekend. I'm not sure,
- 36:04Speaker 2: but let's hear what Patrick Graham.
- 36:06Speaker 3: Coach Pat, does he go by Pat? No, he goes
- 36:08Speaker 3: by Patrick.
- 36:08Speaker 5: I think the players call him Pat.
- 36:10Speaker 6: Do they?
- 36:11Speaker 5: Everywhere you see his name, biography-wise, it's Patrick Graham.
- 36:14Speaker 3: All right, there you go.
- 36:15Speaker 9: Well, it was a call that we– well, obviously we
- 36:18Speaker 9: had it up for the game and we've been doing
- 36:19Speaker 9: it for a long time. And it just was going
- 36:23Speaker 9: over some fine points because we were viewed as a group,
- 36:26Speaker 9: as a unit, just making sure, hey, just, hey, make
- 36:29Speaker 9: sure we get the guys telling this. Because the beauty
- 36:32Speaker 9: of the call– sorry, I take that back. The beauty
- 36:34Speaker 9: of what happened on the field was how the guys
- 36:37Speaker 9: did it all together. There's so many different parts and
- 36:39Speaker 9: aspects to that pressure. whether it was TJ and Alex,
- 36:43Speaker 9: how they did what we call a heels charge on
- 36:46Speaker 9: the tackles, really do a good job there. What Cam
- 36:51Speaker 9: and Herb did on the inside, going to touch to
- 36:54Speaker 9: try to prevent the slide from going. What PQ did
- 36:57Speaker 9: in terms of if the center were to double back,
- 36:59Speaker 9: he was in position to pin the center. Everything worked
- 37:02Speaker 9: out the way we wanted, along with Jalen and Peyton
- 37:06Speaker 9: getting on the edge and just trying to put the
- 37:08Speaker 9: back in a bind.
- 37:09Speaker 6: It was.
- 37:10Speaker 9: It was a fun play to watch. It was fun
- 37:13Speaker 9: to see them execute it in the game.
- 37:15Speaker 6: And we've used it before.
- 37:16Speaker 9: I think, you know, the third down against Cleveland in
- 37:20Speaker 9: the fourth quarter, we used that there before. But it
- 37:23Speaker 9: was beautiful to watch it play out. But the conversation
- 37:26Speaker 9: was just, hey, just a reminder to say, this is
- 37:27Speaker 9: what we're going to use it for.
- 37:28Speaker 6: And let's just go hit it with speed. And they did.
- 37:31Speaker 5: They did.
- 37:32Speaker 2: When your defensive coordinator or coach on your staff says
- 37:35Speaker 2: it's a beautiful thing, that usually means something good happened
- 37:39Speaker 2: on that football field.
- 37:40Speaker 3: Brian Becco.
- 37:41Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy pretty much said the same thing about that
- 37:44Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey sack, about how everybody was doing their job
- 37:47Speaker 4: to a T, and all those little things allow a
- 37:50Speaker 4: big thing to happen.
- 37:52Speaker 3: That's exactly it, and that's what you have to do.
- 37:54Speaker 2: You have to make sure everybody's on the same page,
- 37:55Speaker 2: the communication's there. Communication with this team, was a bit
- 37:59Speaker 2: of an issue earlier this season, right? It seems like
- 38:02Speaker 2: they've cleaned that up here in recent weeks. Here's more
- 38:04Speaker 2: with Coach Graham.
- 38:05Speaker 9: About the blitz zeros, and again, that's probably where I'm
- 38:09Speaker 9: more familiar with in terms of just going with the zeros.
- 38:11Speaker 9: There's just so many details that go into it, and,
- 38:15Speaker 9: you know, you could have a playbook page, but, like,
- 38:17Speaker 9: some of the stuff has to happen to you, you know,
- 38:19Speaker 9: in terms of just, you know, like your aim point
- 38:21Speaker 9: when you're reducing, the look that it might present itself,
- 38:25Speaker 9: or just also being aware of, the things the offense
- 38:28Speaker 9: can do, you know, those three by what we would
- 38:30Speaker 9: call those three bio formations, because technically, you know, like
- 38:34Speaker 9: the guy, if he's nasty on, I'm sorry, I'm talking,
- 38:37Speaker 9: y'all talk football, y'all good. So like, if it's nasty
- 38:39Speaker 9: on the backside, he could get involved with the blocking. So,
- 38:42Speaker 9: you know, having the cover guys being aware, it could
- 38:44Speaker 9: be a throwaway, you know, just like all, all those
- 38:48Speaker 9: things that sometimes it's just, it's better. Like it happens
- 38:50Speaker 9: during this, you know, from experience, you learn a little
- 38:53Speaker 9: bit more with it, but, um, It's really crucial, especially
- 38:57Speaker 9: when you're talking about zeroing it out. There's nobody else
- 39:00Speaker 9: back there. There's no post safety. So you definitely got
- 39:02Speaker 9: to be on the same page.
- 39:03Speaker 3: Patrick, what is it about Jalen that allows him to have.
- 39:05Speaker 6: A game like that? You know, I mean, the physical attributes,
- 39:11Speaker 6: I mean, that's well documented.
- 39:12Speaker 9: In terms of the size, the speed, the physicality that
- 39:16Speaker 9: he plays with. We were able to bring him in
- 39:18Speaker 9: different ways, allow him to operate from different points in
- 39:23Speaker 9: terms of whether he's in the line of scrimmage. out
- 39:26Speaker 9: there on the slot, safety, different things. I mean, I
- 39:29Speaker 9: think it's a lot. Physical attributes, the willingness to do it,
- 39:33Speaker 9: and also just the intelligence. I mean, he's a smart
- 39:36Speaker 9: football player. He understands ball. When you talk to him,
- 39:40Speaker 9: he understands how he can manipulate the offenses and some
- 39:44Speaker 9: of their calls. So it's fun to have that. And,
- 39:46Speaker 9: you know, we have a few guys like that, and
- 39:48Speaker 9: it's fun to use those guys.
- 39:50Speaker 7: Two weeks in a row you had a team that
- 39:52Speaker 7: pretty heavily features just running back, guys who were averaging
- 39:54Speaker 7: over 80 yards a game, and I think you had
- 39:56Speaker 7: them both to 45. What does that say about the
- 39:59Speaker 7: way things are going for your defense right now, and
- 40:02Speaker 7: how much is that? I mean, you talked a lot
- 40:04Speaker 7: about being willing to change what your focus is from
- 40:07Speaker 7: week to week, but how much is stopping the run
- 40:09Speaker 7: always going to be on that list?
- 40:12Speaker 9: Well, I mean, again, the guys will tell you just–
- 40:17Speaker 9: Let me answer your first part of your question. It
- 40:19Speaker 9: doesn't mean anything for this week. This week is just
- 40:22Speaker 9: a totally different week, so we've got to refocus there.
- 40:25Speaker 9: In terms of stopping the run, to me, and this
- 40:29Speaker 9: has been my MO since I've been doing this, we
- 40:32Speaker 9: have to funnel the ball back to the big men.
- 40:35Speaker 9: If we don't do that, that's how you play run
- 40:39Speaker 9: defense in the NFL, unless you're just truly selling out
- 40:42Speaker 9: for the run game every single play.
- 40:44Speaker 6: To me, that's not a good recipe, in my opinion.
- 40:47Speaker 9: Just because you expose your perimeter in the passing game.
- 40:51Speaker 9: So to me, it's all about how we funnel the
- 40:54Speaker 9: ball back to the big men. Everybody has a role
- 40:56Speaker 9: out there on that field, and I know we've been
- 40:59Speaker 9: talking a lot about it and just really going back
- 41:01Speaker 9: and reviewing it, but I think that's been the focus,
- 41:05Speaker 9: just getting the ball back to the big guys.
- 41:07Speaker 6: What's that mean?
- 41:09Speaker 9: Good firm edges from the outside backers, safeties, nickel, whoever's
- 41:13Speaker 9: involved in that, playing with good leverage on the second level,
- 41:16Speaker 9: making sure we get over on the motions, and then
- 41:18Speaker 9: getting downhill and having some violence in that C, D,
- 41:22Speaker 9: B gap, whatever we want to talk about, but just
- 41:24Speaker 9: having violence there and get it back to camp, get
- 41:27Speaker 9: it back to new, get it back to the interior pieces.
- 41:30Speaker 9: And we'll still be able to eat from outside, but
- 41:32Speaker 9: that's the most important thing to me in terms of
- 41:35Speaker 9: NFL football, if you can funnel it back inside. If
- 41:37Speaker 9: the ball's getting out to the perimeter and to all
- 41:39Speaker 9: the space in the run game, Yeah, these guys have
- 41:41Speaker 9: been carrying the ball since.
- 41:42Speaker 6: They were eight years old. I mean, it's just not
- 41:45Speaker 6: a good recipe for success.
- 41:48Speaker 2: Yes, when you funnel it inside, good things happen on defense, Brian.
- 41:52Speaker 2: You've got to contain on the outside, funnel it back inside,
- 41:55Speaker 2: make the defensive stop. Boy, I love hearing Coach Graham
- 41:58Speaker 2: talk these X's and O's.
- 41:59Speaker 4: Former D-lineman, former D-line coach. But he's coached linebackers, too,
- 42:04Speaker 4: in this league. He's always going to view it that way,
- 42:07Speaker 4: I think, Ed. And, yeah, it's just fun to hear
- 42:08Speaker 4: him talk ball.
- 42:10Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is you get momentum in these
- 42:13Speaker 2: football games, especially defensively, and then you can start working
- 42:16Speaker 2: in the blitzes and the splash plays and really start
- 42:18Speaker 2: to get aggressive. But you've got to get to that
- 42:20Speaker 2: point in the game, and when the team's throwing on
- 42:22Speaker 2: you left and right, as they were yesterday at the
- 42:24Speaker 2: start of that game, it was kind of hard to
- 42:25Speaker 2: get in that rhythm. Not yesterday, two days ago now
- 42:28Speaker 2: on Sunday. You guys know what I mean out there.
- 42:30Speaker 2: This past week against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, once they
- 42:33Speaker 2: got to that point, then they can start downing up
- 42:35Speaker 2: some blitzes, and they certainly did that more with Coach Graham.
- 42:37Speaker 6: Very pleased.
- 42:39Speaker 9: From that first run play that he had, the violence,
- 42:42Speaker 9: I mean, lockout, peek, shed, find the ball carrier, get
- 42:47Speaker 9: the TFL. You know, he's a 4-I there, so he's
- 42:51Speaker 9: inside leverage. He makes the play in the C-gap. I mean,
- 42:53Speaker 9: that's a dynamic play for a defensive lineman. And then
- 42:56Speaker 9: what he was doing in terms of the pass rush,
- 42:58Speaker 9: collapse in the pocket. You know, we talked about the
- 43:01Speaker 9: must for the game in terms of his role in
- 43:04Speaker 9: terms of collapse in the pocket. and being aware to
- 43:06Speaker 9: get his hands up versus a quarterback whose stature is
- 43:08Speaker 9: not as tall. I mean, I thought it was a
- 43:12Speaker 9: really solid game for him. And he's just, again, I
- 43:15Speaker 9: told you before, it was a pleasure to coach this guy.
- 43:18Speaker 9: Had him at the Senior Bowl when I was the
- 43:19Speaker 9: head coach at the Senior Bowl. I just love the
- 43:23Speaker 9: trajectory in terms of how the season's going for him
- 43:25Speaker 9: right now.
- 43:26Speaker 7: Peyton Wilson gave a lot of credit to him, why he.
- 43:28Speaker 3: Liked really all the defensive linemen.
- 43:30Speaker 5: As far as helping keep him, Patrick, clean, clean, clean.
- 43:33Speaker 5: How have you seen that chemistry of those guys knowing.
- 43:36Speaker 7: When to shed an attack versus when to stack the
- 43:39Speaker 7: double blockers and help your linebackers out?
- 43:41Speaker 9: Well, you have to teach patience in the run game. Luckily,
- 43:46Speaker 9: we have veteran players that have played a lot. A
- 43:48Speaker 9: lot of times when you're dealing with young players, you
- 43:51Speaker 9: have to– explain to them, like, listen, you guys in
- 43:54Speaker 9: college and high school, nobody really blocked you. So you're
- 43:57Speaker 9: so used to just the ball snap and you look
- 43:59Speaker 9: for the ball. Like here, there are going to be
- 44:01Speaker 9: grown men blocking you, so you got to be patient.
- 44:04Speaker 9: And one of the most fun exercises I used to
- 44:07Speaker 9: have as a D-line coach, like when all these rookies
- 44:10Speaker 9: were shedding and all that stuff earlier, I'm like, I
- 44:11Speaker 9: would pause the table. I'm like, you know the back
- 44:13Speaker 9: doesn't even have the ball yet. You know, like you
- 44:16Speaker 9: have time. Defeat the man in front of you first.
- 44:19Speaker 6: Lock him out.
- 44:21Speaker 9: Get your eyes in your primary gap and then look
- 44:22Speaker 9: for the ball. But it's a veteran group that plays
- 44:26Speaker 9: with patience. I mean, they got the best example I
- 44:29Speaker 9: could think of with Cam. I mean, again, it's just
- 44:32Speaker 9: hard to find plays where this guy's not doing football
- 44:34Speaker 9: the way football was meant to be done.
- 44:37Speaker 3: Coach Graham, two weeks in a row on the sideline
- 44:40Speaker 3: and two Steeler wins.
- 44:41Speaker 4: You think he's good for Steelers defensive linemen, especially the
- 44:44Speaker 4: young guys like Gabriel Rubio, Dwyer Black. Unfortunately, Derek Harmon's
- 44:49Speaker 4: out for the moment, but You know, they've got Domita Pecco, too,
- 44:52Speaker 4: as their position coach. Talk about encouraging for the development
- 44:55Speaker 4: of those guys. That's nice to hear.
- 44:57Speaker 2: And there's no doubt that the defensive line, really, Brian,
- 45:00Speaker 2: I mean, look at some of the runners they've faced
- 45:01Speaker 2: this year. They've shut them down rushing-wise, and that all
- 45:03Speaker 2: starts with your defensive line. How good are you against
- 45:06Speaker 2: the rush? And the Steelers' run defense has been excellent
- 45:09Speaker 2: so far this season.
- 45:09Speaker 5: And then later this season, they'll have to play the
- 45:11Speaker 5: big runner twice. Assuming he's healthy.
- 45:13Speaker 6: That's right.
- 45:13Speaker 5: You know the big runner. Oh, I do.
- 45:15Speaker 3: I do, from Baltimore. Yeah, you don't mention him by name.
- 45:17Speaker 3: And if you do, it's Mr. Henry, right? You got
- 45:20Speaker 3: to put that Mr. in front of there.
- 45:21Speaker 6: Mr.
- 45:22Speaker 5: Chubb is no longer in the AFC North, but King
- 45:24Speaker 5: Henry still is.
- 45:25Speaker 2: Whenever we come back, we're going to kick off our
- 45:27Speaker 2: number two on the show today with our top 10
- 45:29Speaker 2: moments and plays from this past Sunday. And coming up
- 45:32Speaker 2: at 2.40 today, it is, excuse me, 3.40. It's already
- 45:36Speaker 2: past 2.40. At 3.40 today, Jim Wexel from Steelers.com. And
- 45:41Speaker 2: he's a contributor there, and he's also the editor and
- 45:43Speaker 2: publisher of Steel City Insider.
- 45:45Speaker 3: We'll get our times right, folks.
- 45:47Speaker 2: I promise whenever we come back, Brian Bacco, Ed Troop,
- 45:49Speaker 2: right here on Steelers Nation Radio, part of the Steelers
- 45:52Speaker 2: Audio Network.