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25W: Why 0-1 Isn’t a Big Deal for the Patriots + Inside Lane Kiffin’s Mind + Is Touching Someone Else’s Kid Ever OK? · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

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  Speaker 4: This is a.
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  Speaker 1: Podcast called 25 Whistles. Talking football and they all wear
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  Speaker 1: a whistle. Yeah, it's stupid, but what did you expect?
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  Speaker 1: It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles. We have
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  Speaker 1: a cool show because we'll talk to author John Talti
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  Speaker 1: in a little bit who wrote the book on Lane Kiffin.
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  Speaker 1: And like I said, I love Lane Kiffin now. Only
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  Speaker 1: because I hate him so much.
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  Speaker 3: It's full.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I'm into it. And they gave up, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: They said, okay, we won't sign any pros. And those
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  Speaker 1: two other spots, they just signed two other dudes. They
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  Speaker 1: don't want to get kicked out of the league.
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  Speaker 5: So what happens to the pros?
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  Speaker 1: Those guys, they just go back and try to get
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  Speaker 1: on a practice squad.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 1: Not that they wouldn't have anyway. They might have, but
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  Speaker 1: they decided, and I would have too, if I could
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  Speaker 1: come back and play college again, not because it's just college,
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  Speaker 1: because they were going to make probably a couple million
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  Speaker 1: bucks versus 200,000, less than that on the practice squad.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and actually play, possibly win a championship with LSU,
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  Speaker 6: how good they are.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about the millions, though.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: That's all secondary.
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  Speaker 6: True, very true.
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  Speaker 1: It's making $ 90, 000 a year versus $ 2 million a year.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, laying lost. But we'll talk to John coming
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  Speaker 1: up in a little bit. He's got a book. We'll
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  Speaker 1: do our Super Bowl predictions coming up as well. The
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  Speaker 1: game last night was interesting, and the note that I
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  Speaker 1: made was, did the Pearl Jam guitarist play the national anthem?
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  Speaker 5: Mike McCready.
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  Speaker 1: Don't do that.
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  Speaker 5: Don't do it.
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  Speaker 1: I know that's your guy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, what about him?
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  Speaker 1: And you love Pearl Jam, so you're obviously going to
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  Speaker 1: be positive about it.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, it gave me chills.
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  Speaker 1: He was doing too many solos that weren't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: like when singers do runs that aren't a part of it.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't like all the solos that aren't a
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  Speaker 1: part of the song.
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  Speaker 6: So just do the song.
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  Speaker 1: Do the song. Because there would be a part where
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  Speaker 1: it would be like.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's where you got to do the wham.
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  Speaker 1: No, it wasn't even Jimi Hendrix.
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  Speaker 4: It was more.
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  Speaker 1: It was too much. It was not the same melody.
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  Speaker 1: No need to show off for the anthem. You did it.
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  Speaker 1: It sounded great. It's too much dicking around. What?
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: That's crazy, dude. I watched that and I got chills.
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  Speaker 6: Because it was your guy or because it was his guy?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Mike McCready, Pearl Jam, all those guys. I
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  Speaker 5: love Pearl Jam. And to see Mike McCready represent Seattle
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  Speaker 5: and America with his guitar was so cool to me.
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  Speaker 5: But I guess you hated it.
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  Speaker 1: As someone who likes music, he can play guitar, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: But if it were a singer doing the same thing,
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  Speaker 1: I say the same thing. If someone's like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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  Speaker 1: I hate that too. That's not your song to take
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  Speaker 1: liberties with.
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  Speaker 5: You want to know what's so cool is I've seen
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  Speaker 5: him play that live because in some of his concert
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  Speaker 5: during Yellow Leadbetter, he'll go into a solo into the
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  Speaker 5: Star Spangled Banner. So I've heard that same version. So yes,
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  Speaker 5: I can understand why hearing that at first being like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: that's kind of, oh, that's too much.
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  Speaker 1: It's not about, no, no. That's how I feel about
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  Speaker 1: that song with anybody doing it. It wasn't just about
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  Speaker 1: him and his performance. No liberties with the national anthem.
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  Speaker 6: Stapleton, a few years ago, he just played it straight, right?
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  Speaker 4: Straightforward.
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  Speaker 5: That one gave me chills.
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  Speaker 6: Straightforward.
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  Speaker 1: The song is meant to be saying about America, not
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  Speaker 1: for you to do a little dance on the side.
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  Speaker 5: Amen. Okay, guys, relax.
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  Speaker 1: And I made a note to talk about that because
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  Speaker 1: I was so annoyed by it.
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  Speaker 5: And you knew that you were going to.
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  Speaker 1: Annoy me too. And he was like, in the home.
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  Speaker 5: He did a little tapping.
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  Speaker 1: He's putting in like all the famous riffs in musical history.
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  Speaker 5: He goes into even flow.
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  Speaker 1: So the game quickly from last night.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Not a great game.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 1: And Sam Dunrow gets hurt immediately. And at first, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know why it was hurt at first. They were
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  Speaker 1: just saying lower body for a minute. It turns out
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  Speaker 1: it was his hip.
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  Speaker 5: Hip. Yeah, because he was limping.
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  Speaker 1: What are they saying now?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so now they're saying he's expected to miss just
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  Speaker 6: a few weeks. So for sure already out for the
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  Speaker 6: second game. We expected that. But they said that they
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  Speaker 6: dodged a bullet basically and he should be out just
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  Speaker 6: a few weeks.
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  Speaker 5: But what's the injury?
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  Speaker 6: But they're still waiting to get an MRI for more
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  Speaker 6: results as of we record this right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the injury?
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  Speaker 6: It's just a hip injury.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I had one of those. Like, just tweaked it? Like,
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  Speaker 1: how bad was your... Generic hip... No, not that bad.
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  Speaker 1: It was just a hip injury. But you could just
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  Speaker 1: say that. It just hurt a little bit. I was
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  Speaker 1: fine the next day. So I had the same thing
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  Speaker 1: until they diagnosed him fully. I had the same injury.
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: Did you get refunds on all your bets? No, because
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: I had bet a parlay of... Sam Darnold and Drake
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  Speaker 1: May both passing for over 230 together. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Drake May hit 230. He was not even close
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  Speaker 1: the last time I looked.
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  Speaker 5: Got it. But if he would have, you would have
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  Speaker 5: gotten paid half.
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  Speaker 1: I would have got paid half.
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  Speaker 5: Got it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: It says the hip is intact. It's more of a
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  Speaker 6: muscle thing. So that's why they're looking for M.R.
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  Speaker 1: It said it's more of a muscle thing.
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  Speaker 6: That's what it literally says.
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  Speaker 1: Whoever that rider is.
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  Speaker 6: It's more of a muscle thing.
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  Speaker 5: And something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I hate to see anybody get hurt.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was terrible.
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  Speaker 1: And the first game of the season. And the Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl champions.
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  Speaker 5: But let's go, what's his name, Drew Locke? Drew Locke?
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  Speaker 5: That sounds right. I mean, let's go Drew Locke, dude.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you came back and won that game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Drake made three picks.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: That helped.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we also lost the game. But what helps me,
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  Speaker 6: not that you guys are asking, but what helps me is.
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  Speaker 1: Because you're a Patriots fan.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a Patriots fan, but last year, nobody remembers,
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  Speaker 6: great year we had. Week one, we lost to the Raiders.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: At home, in an Ugly loss.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: And he made it to the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 6: And we made it to the Super Bowl. We lost
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  Speaker 6: three games all year. So two more after that all year.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm like, okay, it's week one.
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  Speaker 1: The difference is that team last year, year one coach,
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  Speaker 1: quarterback finding himself. This, you know who you are. Same coach,
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  Speaker 1: same team. I don't think that, I get it. I'd
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  Speaker 1: hold on to hope too. Yeah. But Seattle's also great defensively.
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  Speaker 6: Their defense is nasty. And I will say, Drake may
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  Speaker 6: look like he had PTSD from the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Like he, as long as we don't play the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 6: I'll feel okay.
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  Speaker 1: I liked his hair though. It's a little longer. He's
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  Speaker 1: going out a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't notice that.
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  Speaker 6: I just noticed the pics.
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  Speaker 1: Look a little longer to me. He's on the sideline
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  Speaker 1: before the game while the guy was taking liberties with
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  Speaker 1: the national anthem I didn't like and they were showing everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, Drake May's hair looks a little longer.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was rough. Kind of a boring game. I,
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  Speaker 1: at halftime, my wife and I watched the show because
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  Speaker 1: there's football Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
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  Speaker 6: Wait, you watched like a halftime show or?
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  Speaker 1: No, we watched a show.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: We went over and watched.
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  Speaker 5: You know who played the halftime show?
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  Speaker 1: Was there a halftime show?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Who?
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  Speaker 5: Mike McCready. Mike McCready and the Soundgarden guitarist with some girl.
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  Speaker 6: They went full Seattle, huh?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they went all Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: But what song were they playing?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I think the girl's an artist. I don't know who
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  Speaker 5: she is. But they were there. Those two guys were
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  Speaker 5: her guitarists.
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  Speaker 1: Did you watch it?
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  Speaker 5: Nah, you can kind of see it in the background.
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  Speaker 5: And then I followed Pearl Jam on Instagram and they
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  Speaker 5: played it.
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  Speaker 6: It's Taylor Momsen.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I know Taylor. Mom's in The Pretty Reckless. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she's in The Pretty Reckless, lead singer of that. And
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  Speaker 1: then she was also in the Jim Carrey version of
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  Speaker 1: The Green Guy.
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  Speaker 4: The Grinch?
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  Speaker 1: She's the kid. Oh, really? The blonde kid, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: That's cool. Well, there you go. She played the halftime show.
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  Speaker 1: That movie's not called The Green Guy?
• 8:26
  Speaker 5: The Grinch.
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  Speaker 1: The Green Guy that stole Christmas?
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  Speaker 5: But that's funny because the mask was also green, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he didn't steal Christmas.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he did not.
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  Speaker 6: He did not.
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: The NFL, for the first time in 20 years, will
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  Speaker 1: not have a rookie quarterback starting week one.
• 8:40
  Speaker 5: Whoa.
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: Because think of who the rookie quarterbacks are.
• 8:43
  Speaker 5: Fernando.
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: Really, Mendoza would be the one, and he's not going
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  Speaker 1: to start because Kirk Cousins is. Right. But the rest,
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  Speaker 1: like Nussmeyer's not starting.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The Rams, I think he's third string because Stetson Bennett
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  Speaker 1: is second. That's right.
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  Speaker 5: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Who's starting in Arizona?
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  Speaker 6: Kobe Brissett.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if Carson Beck is there, but I
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  Speaker 5: don't even know. Is he a backup?
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: Why do you keep talking about Carson Beck? You brought
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  Speaker 1: him up in the freaking Hall of Fame game.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no. All preseason, dude. He played great.
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  Speaker 1: Then he may end up being the starter eventually at
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  Speaker 1: some point.
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  Speaker 5: I'd be willing. If that's a bet somewhere, I would
• 9:24
  Speaker 5: place that bet that he eventually starts this season.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: I think the bet would be he starts by what week.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's one. Does he eventually start
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  Speaker 1: this season?
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  Speaker 5: Too many words.
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  Speaker 4: Drew Aller.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Drew Aller is not going to start. He's in Pittsburgh, right?
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  Speaker 6: Cade Klubnick, yeah. But Klubnick is a backup in New
• 9:41
  Speaker 6: York for the Jets behind Geno, so that's a possibility.
• 9:44
  Speaker 6: He could start at some point.
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: Klubnick's funny because all the comments from Jets fans that
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: didn't watch college going, this is our guy. This is
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  Speaker 1: our guy. Without seeing him play college. Yeah. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's the only time in 20 years that a rookie
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  Speaker 1: has not started. Wow. Game one.
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  Speaker 6: That's probably a good thing for them.
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  Speaker 1: And for us as viewers.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I agree. Right?
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're Arizona, I know they paid Jacoby Brissett. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And you want to lose every game. Maybe you start
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  Speaker 1: your rookie.
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  Speaker 5: They say that they don't tank. Like, they swear that
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  Speaker 5: that's not a thing.
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  Speaker 1: You can't tank as a player because you have a contract.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of these guys are trying to get paid.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to tank as a coach because you
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: may not have a job. But what you're tanking as
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: is affecting what personnel are getting to play, who is injured. Like,
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: when Max Crosby doesn't play the last three games because
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: he's got an injury, he really doesn't. Or it's so
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: small he could still play, but they– the GM or
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: the decision makers that actually do want a worse record,
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: they will try to affect it by having weaker personnel
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: be available to the coaches. And then those weak personnel,
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  Speaker 1: they were playing as hard as they possibly can because they,
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  Speaker 1: they want another job.
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  Speaker 5: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's hard to get a 22 people to tank. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard in the NBA, but in the NBA, they
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  Speaker 1: don't tank except for the players don't play bad. They
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  Speaker 1: just put in the worst players.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not, Tanking isn't the players go out there going,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to suck. No, they're playing as hard as
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  Speaker 1: they possibly can. But what they do is they limit
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: the amount of minutes for the good or if they
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: get in at all.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they put in the worst players. Baseball too. That's
• 11:24
  Speaker 6: where managers and GMs get in trouble or get in
• 11:27
  Speaker 6: fights with each other because the manager's like, I'm getting fired,
• 11:29
  Speaker 6: but you're keeping your job, but I had to play
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  Speaker 6: the guys you wanted.
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  Speaker 1: Me to play.
• 11:32
  Speaker 5: Doesn't make sense.
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: Everybody's team this week because everybody's playing now. Your team
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: is the Patriots.
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: You did lose.
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  Speaker 5: That's done.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: But what are you doing now? Because it's weird you're
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: not playing Sunday because it's like football has really started
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: and you've got your game. So yours isn't even on
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: until a week and a half.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 6: I know that's the worst part. We've got to wait
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  Speaker 6: like 10, 11 days for the next one to try
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  Speaker 6: to rebound. I'll be– but I guess I'm most– is
• 11:54
  Speaker 6: that what you're answering or asking?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you're not really a Tennessee fan.
• 11:58
  Speaker 5: No, you're not a Tennessee fan.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, the Vols?
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to claim it?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, GBO, baby.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: Let's go. Then what game are you personally invested in
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  Speaker 1: that has not happened yet?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, Texas and Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: Just because you're interested in that game?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Just because I love college football and those are two
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  Speaker 6: great teams.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and fairly. His team already played.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I get that.
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  Speaker 3: Eddie.
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  Speaker 5: There is no other game that interests me at all
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  Speaker 5: this week other than Sunday night when the Cowboys go
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: to New York City and play the Giants. Dude, I've
• 12:29
  Speaker 5: been waiting all year for this. Like, all year for
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: this game. I am so excited. We're going to find
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  Speaker 5: out who the Cowboys are, too. This is it.
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  Speaker 1: Don't put it all on week one.
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  Speaker 6: Why not?
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  Speaker 4: Please don't.
• 12:42
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you right now, do not do that.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: You got 17 games, bruh.
• 12:46
  Speaker 5: I know, dude. It's so exciting to me that it's
• 12:50
  Speaker 5: finally here and the Cowboys get to play and it's
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: going to be on a Sunday night because they get
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: center stage. There's no other game that's, you know, no
• 12:58
  Speaker 5: fantasy's distracting me. It's going to be all Cowboys.
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: Also, you're playing a bit of a wild card with
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: the Giants.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: It's one of the teams that You kind of have
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: an idea of who and what every team is going
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: into the year, but you got a new coach. You
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: got year two of Jackson Dart, who is healthy right now.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: Year two of Cam Scadaboo. The Giants have a good
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: front four defensively. So who knows what the Giants are
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: going to be this year? That's interesting to me, and
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: I hope you guys run. We own them in our league.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: I hope we just run them.
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: Just kill the Cowboys from the very beginning.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: But the Giants are one of those wildcard teams where
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: we really don't know what they are.
• 13:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and with Harbaugh now, you're like, they're at least
• 13:43
  Speaker 6: going to be stable, you think.
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: Mr.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: Consistency. Right.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: Mike?
• 13:47
  Speaker 6: Texas game for sure. Huge Cowboys fan, but that game
• 13:49
  Speaker 6: is going to determine a lot, I feel.
• 13:51
  Speaker 5: If they don't win that game, I don't think.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: It's their year.
• 13:54
  Speaker 5: Texas?
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: I don't either because just for both teams because nightmares,
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: conference schedules.
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: Are they in Texas?
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: Are they playing in Austin?
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Even looking at Ohio State's schedule, they'll probably be favored.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Texas is favored in this game because it's in Austin.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: They're a point-and-a-half favorite. But Ohio State will probably be
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: favored or close to in every game. But they have
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: to play Oregon. Will you pull up to Ohio State's schedule?
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: For whoever loses this game, it's going to be tough. Yeah,
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: Texas is a point-and-a-half favorite. Number one, Ohio State. Number four, Texas.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: And you're not going?
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: No.
• 14:28
  Speaker 6: Did you even look at tickets?
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: No. That'd be crazy, I bet.
• 14:32
  Speaker 6: Go later in the season when it's not as hot.
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: I feel that, man.
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: Outside.
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: So they got Kent State. This is Ohio State.
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 14:40
  Speaker 6: After Texas, then Illinois.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: It's a tough one. And Illinois, they probably won't lose to,
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: but Illinois is sneaky.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: Oh, it's at Iowa.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Again, a little more sneaky than Illinois, but go ahead.
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: Then Maryland at home.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: Sucks.
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: At Indiana.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: That could be an L.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: At USC.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: USC supposedly is a lot better this year.
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: Then Oregon, so that's three in a row.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: Dang.
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: And then they close out with Nebraska, Northwestern, and then
• 15:07
  Speaker 6: Michigan last.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: So there's three games that they could possibly lose. I'm
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: not going to count. The Iowa game could be sneaky. But,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's three and a half games there they
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: could possibly lose.
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: Who were they playing at the end there? You said
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: Michigan was the last, but who was before that?
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: Nebraska and Northwestern.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Nothing.
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: Did you know Chip Kelly's at Northwestern? Saw him the
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: other day.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: I was like, what? Not even the coordinator, but he's
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: just there as like a.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: Consultant?
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: Offensive assistant or something?
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they call them.
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: Senior analysts.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Analysts, yes.
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: Is that what it is?
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Analysts, yeah.
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: Sounds like a good job.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Would you pull up to Texas schedule?
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Because I know Texas has got a monster run-in coming
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: up later with the Arkansas Razorbacks. Oh, there's an L.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Watch out. In Austin.
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: I think that's the game I'm going to go to.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it should be. You want a guaranteed win.
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: Okay, so UTSA after Ohio State. And then at Tennessee.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Okay. It just depends. That freshman five-star quarterback looks really good.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Tennessee has. But again, he's a freshman.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: Then Oklahoma at home.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: That game. That's not at home. It's in Dallas. That
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: could be a disaster.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: Florida at home.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: They're going to be better than people think.
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: Ole Miss at home.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Might be really good. We don't know. That Louisville game
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: was not good.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: No.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: But if you haven't heard the story of the Patriots
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: and the Raiders, then you've not heard a story. Because
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: they went to the Super Bowl, and they lost to
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: the Raiders week one.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's right. I just heard that story.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, if you haven't heard that story yet.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Great story.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: They'll write a book about it one day.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: And then Mississippi State at home.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: At Missouri. At LSU.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: You having a good one?
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: And then against the Arkansas Razorbacks.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: And then at Texas A & M to finish off
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: the season.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: So I could see two L's there. Yeah, it's an
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: important game. Good one. I have the Arkansas game. They're
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: playing at Utah. Arkansas at number 20, Utah. Utah's a
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: 12.5 point favorite. I will have to watch that while
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: at the Brooks and Dunn concert.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: Fun late game.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Right? 9 p.m.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: Or something?
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: Concert's this weekend?
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. It's on Saturday.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: If Arkansas beats Utah, I give all three of you
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: guys $ 100 when I get here on Monday.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Really? Yeah.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: So note, don't bet on that game.
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: I'm wearing my gear.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: That's already taken care of.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just like, you know, I want us all to
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: have joy if that happens.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Love that.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: Deal.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: There's no chance. There is a chance. There's a chance.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: There's always a chance. And also there's a chance. I
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: was watching some Utah breakdown. There's a chance. But there's
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: a reason it's a 12.5 point spread. And I'm not
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: touching it betting.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Huh.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I might take Arkansas 12 and a half, but I
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: don't think I'm going to touch it. So yeah, it's bad.
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• 18:29
  Speaker 2: John Talti, National College Sports Writer for CBS Sports.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Author, he's got a big book coming out called Lane
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Being Lane, which I'm going to show you guys on camera.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: It's the story of Lane Kiffin, college football's agent of chaos. Hey, John,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I want to start with this first. So we plan
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: to have you in the studio and we couldn't say
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: this to you when we were like, don't come, but
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: somebody was murdered in our building yesterday. jeez so that's
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: why so i i feel bad and luckily we caught
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: you before you left and you had to be like
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: man why did they move this to zoom and now
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: it's finally made the news but i don't know if
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: we'd be allowed up here but somebody was murdered like
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: there was a gun fight it was it's the craziest
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: thing we can't believe it so a little bit of
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: me felt guilty for canceling you coming up here but
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: then i thought when i finally was able to talk
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to you and i said there was a murder you
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: would understand.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: One hundred percent. And I appreciated like Kevin giving me
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: the heads up because I was just about to get
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: in the car. I live in Birmingham. I was about
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: to drive to Nashville. I was like, okay, like I
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: was excited to meet you guys in person, but understood,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: of course. And now obviously I understand that.
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: So crazy situation.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: We want you to come up at some point. I
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: just didn't even know if we'd get in the building
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: and literally 80 feet from us, some dude was murdered.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Our producer found his body, like walked up on his body.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: That's how crazy it was.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: That's insane.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: So don't hate us. That's my point. Don't hate us.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with you. It had to
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: do with murder.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Now to what we're talking about. And so I'm in
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the middle of a different book right now called The Wager.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever read that, but it's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: about a ship. But when I finished that, and I
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: don't say this because mostly... I'm not full of crap.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I do say a lot of things, but I'm not
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: full of crap. I think I'm going to read this
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: because I love Lane Kiffin. I hate him, but because
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: he makes me hate him so much, like I can
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: appreciate the love for him. So why did you decide
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: to write this book on Lane Kiffin?
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: I think you kind of hit on it right there.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: It's he's got that love him or hate him.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: You watch him.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Right. And he is the most polarizing person, I think,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: in college sports, which is exciting to kind of dive
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: into him in a deeper way of like, what makes
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: this guy tick? Why does he do the things that
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: he does? And I think especially like, you know, Bobby,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I know obviously you're a guy who understands college football
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: and the SEC, like, This guy has just had a
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: one of one career from the high highs to the
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: low lows. Obviously, the first person to be a head
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: coach at three SEC schools. But just even the way
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: that he can get to close to the mountaintop and
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: then the way that he seems to leave every place
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: he's ever worked at. Like I always thought there's got
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: to be something behind the scenes happening there.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: That's a big reason why I wanted to try to
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: understand like, why is Lane Kiffin the way he is?
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: And why does he do these things that seem to
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: both delight and disgust us?
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Would you say, and again, I'm going to be honest,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: our listeners, I just got the book. I haven't read
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: it yet. So I'm going to ask questions. I'm not
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: going to pretend like I read it cause I just
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: got it, but I'm going to ask questions that may
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: be stupid since I haven't read the book. So please
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: bear with me. Um, would you say the highlight is
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: getting that Raiders job when he was like 13? And
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: then obviously he was fired from being the head coach
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: of the Raiders, but would that be the high for him?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: If you were to go, let's look at his career.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: I think it could be, but I think it's also
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: like such a Lane Kiffin type situation where he had
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: people in his life telling him don't take that job,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: but he was driven, especially at that age. And I
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: think he still is now it's about a 20 year difference,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: but was driven so much by ambition. And the idea
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: of going from being the offensive coordinator at USC to
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: being the head coach of the Raiders was crazy. And
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: it was kind of almost fun looking back at the
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: headlines at that time where even back then people thought,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: this is crazy. And he had gone for a job actually...
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: the University of Minnesota job and didn't get it and
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: yet somehow got the Raiders job. And there's a great
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: story in the book where the Raiders actually initially wanted
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: to hire Steve Sarkeesian. And they sent one of their
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: guys to try to find Sarkeesian. He kind of ghosted
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Al Davis. This guy's trying to find Sark. He gets
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin on the phone. He's like, where's Sark? What's
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: going on? Lane's kind of playing coy with him because
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Lane was kind of lined up to be Sark's offensive
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: coordinator of the Raiders. And eventually this guy I interviewed
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: for the book said, well, Lane, like, would you be
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: interested in the job? And Lane was like, sure. Yeah,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: I think I would be. And so they went from
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: wanting Sark to somehow ending up with Lane Kiffin. And
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: people around the Raiders told me really from day one,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: they realized this might not end well. And it ends
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: in one of the the all time press conferences where
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Al Davis has a projector as he explains all the
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: reasons why he hates Lane Kiffin.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Do you think that Lane, you can't answer
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: this question right or wrong, but do you think Lane
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: would be where he is now if his dad wasn't
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Monty Kiff and people giving him a bit of credit
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: for what, not what his dad had done just in,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: was Monty a defensive coordinator? Okay, for what Monty had
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: done in his career, but also that Monty was known
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: as a stable guy and they assumed Lane would probably
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: be a product of that?
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I think there's a lot to that. I think you
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: can look at it in three ways, really. One, obviously,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: just growing up in that environment, right? Like, Monty is
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: an all-time ball coach. Like, he was obsessed with ball,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: watching tape all the time. And Lane used to love
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: trying to stay up and watch Monday Night Football with
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: his dad and be able to pick his brain, even
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: as a little kid. So just growing up, I think,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: in that environment prepares you to potentially be a football coach.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: certainly Monty opened doors all throughout Wayne's early career. And,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: you know, we get into it in the book, but
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: just like how he ends up at Fresno state for college,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: how he gets his first graduate assistant job afterwards, how
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: he gets his first NFL job. Those are all with
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: people that Monty Kiffin was good friends with. And so
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Monty got him, you know, opportunity after opportunity to start.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: And then to your final point, absolutely. And it played
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: a role in him getting the Tennessee job. And also
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: the USC job where they thought, all right, if we
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: have Monty Kiffin with Lane, that'll kind of like tamp
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: down some of Lane's craziness. Monty's a great guy. He's
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: very personable. He's great on defense. If we pair the
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: brain of Monty Kiffin and the stableness of Monty Kiffin.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: with lane's kind of wild and crazy offense we're going
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: to win big and it never fully came to fruition
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: but certainly there were some some moments there some tennessee
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: usc where it looked pretty good at you know at
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: a time and there's a big reason why you know
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: lane kiffin is who he is is because of monty kiffin.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Did you happen to see lane kiffin's halftime speech that
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: was leaked with the guy recording the ground I did.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know if anyone has verified that it is
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: actually real, but certainly seems like we're all taking it
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: as if it's real. But yeah, I did see it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: It was entertaining.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I am a pretty good sniffer outer of AI. So
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I did, it didn't even resonate to me that it
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: might be fake because it was shot so granny, but again,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: it could have been so good. But if that was lane,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: which I would say it was, that was awesome. Like
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I wanted to go run through a wall for that
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: dude giving that speed. It was, it was amazing, right?
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: It was. And it's a side of Lane that we
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: frankly do not see very often. And it's something that
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: talking to former players and guys who have worked with him,
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: that's not typically Lane's style. He's a bit more to
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: the point. Obviously, he can get guys fired up. And
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: some of the words he used did not surprise me
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: at all. It is kind of direct. But he's not
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: always the big pump-em-up guy. It's why he's had... ed
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: ogeron with him you know throughout his career at multiple
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: different stops like ed o's the guy who's like ripping
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: off his shirt and wants you to like run through
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: a wall like that's typically been others role rather than
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: lane but clearly like lane you know is growing and
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: evolving and i think that specifically that video if assuming
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: it's real showed a side of lane that we frankly
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: have not seen very often and at least from what
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: i saw on social media and things like that like
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Almost universal approval rating. That's the kind of Lane that
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: I think people really enjoy. Yeah.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And I said on the show, because again, I'm not
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: a Lane guy, but I'm starting to be more of
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: a Lane guy because I feel like Lane is now
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: embracing what everybody feels he is, right or wrong, which
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: is the bad guy. And the fact that If so,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I love Hollywood Hogan. Now Hulk Hogan, America's hero. Hollywood Hogan,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: best bad guy ever. And now if Lane is just
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: embracing that role of the bad guy, like that makes
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: me enjoy what he's doing. Do you feel like it
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: got to a point with him now that he's just
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: had to go, okay, if everybody feels this way, I'm
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: just going to say that that's just me.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: I think he's resisted it in the past. Right. And
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: I think maybe he realized between how he left Ole Miss, the,
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: the vanity fair piece in which he talked about, you know,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: some of the racial issues that he felt like impacted
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: his recruiting, you know, at Ole Miss, like those things
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: kind of piling up on each other seem to lead
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: to maybe more people disliking Lane Kiffin than in the past.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: And so it seems like he's embracing this idea of
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: being a villain, but, but maybe kind of like Hulk Hogan, uh,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: It's interesting is that Lane always views that there's a
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: path back to being a hero. And even I think
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: both publicly and certainly privately, some of the people he's
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: talked to that I've talked to, he always views that
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: if I can just win enough, I can be the
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: hero again. So deep down, I don't think he wants
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: to be the villain, but I think he's smart enough
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: in this moment to realize being the villain can be fun.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: And doing the us against everyone has been a successful
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: sports trope for a long time for a reason. And
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: I think if he can kind of play the everyone
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: hates LSU, everyone hates me, let's show them who we
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: really are, which we got snippets of in that halftime speech,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I think it could be very successful. And it does
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: seem to be turning some people to his side. It
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: seems to be working pretty well for him so far.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate LSU and I never liked Lane Kiffin.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And I only hate them because I'm from Arkansas again
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and we hate LSU. And we hate Texas more though,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: but that's not what we're talking about. But again, when
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I love somebody that just is consistent with a strong message,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter. And I feel like he now,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that's so interesting that he feels like there's always a
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: path to, we'll call it redemption, like regardless of where
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: he is. Have you spent any time with him? And
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: did you spend time with him in this book at all?
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was around him some, and I covered Alabama
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: for a long time. And so kind of was in Tuscaloosa,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Birmingham for the early years of Lane at Alabama, which
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: were a wild time in a lot of ways. But
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: I think what's interesting, Bobby, is that I think really
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: if you go back to the Raiders days, He's been
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: trying to sell this idea of like redemption and evolution
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: pretty much at every step, right? I think he realizes like,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: maybe I made a mistake. It seems like every single
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: time he leaves a place, it ends horribly. And then
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: he's got to clean it up somehow. And he tries
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: to sell, I'm maturing, I'm evolving. And then it happens again.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: And then he does it again. And so it was
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: kind of interesting to go back through history just and
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: even when I've interviewed him in the past, like him
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: trying to sell this idea of like, I'm growing up,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: I'm evolving. even going back to 2010, 2015, 2016, etc.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: And so I think he's still doing that. I think
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: he's still trying to redeem himself in some ways. I
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: think he was able to do a lot of that
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: kind of PR cleaning up in Oxford. I think it
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: was in a pretty good place. And then the way
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: he left, I think, damaged a lot of that, burned
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: a lot of bridges, certainly back in Oxford. And so
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: he's trying to kind of clean it up again here.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: But I think one thing for is clear of Lane
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Kiffin is like, again, there's going to be some great
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: moments along the way, but you almost have to sign
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: up knowing that at some point it's going to end horribly.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: And I think if you're an OSU fan, you're hoping
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: maybe we at least get a national championship out of
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: it before this thing gets weird.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Just going through the memory here, is this only positive
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: departure FAU? It is.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: And what's interesting, and we get into a little bit
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: in the book, and it's nothing like bad, but like
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: it got a little weird at the end of FAU too.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: And just the thing is just like they just were
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: not covered the way, Bobby, we cover the SEC, the
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: way we cover Tennessee, the way we cover the USC
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: famous tarmac firing, excuse me. FAU, they were just happy
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: to have him. They were just desperate for attention. They
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: were desperate for a guy who could give them some juice.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: They loved the Lane experience in a lot of ways.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: But I can tell you at the end there, when
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: he was interviewing for multiple jobs, including actually Arkansas, if
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: you remember, there was a time where Arkansas was in
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: the mix. with Lane Kiffin before he ultimately went to
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Ole Miss and people there at the time were telling
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: me like he's off in the side field taking calls
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: during practice talking to his agent trying to talk to
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: coaches about coming with him to either Arkansas or Ole
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Miss like the week of the Conference USA Championship game
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: so like That didn't get a lot of attention. They
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: still won the game. It didn't matter. But it had
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: the potential to get a little weird, certainly if it
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: was a bigger school. And we saw that play out,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: of course, with Ole Miss last cycle where it got
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: very weird at the end and a lot of hurt
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: feelings along the way.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: So I'm a pretty big booster at Arkansas, and we
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: had Lane. And one of my really good friends, and
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: on the staff at Arkansas– And that's when Lane took
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the Ole Miss job after he had already told us
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: at Arkansas he was taking that job. And then they fired.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Did you know that story and not say it?
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: So I didn't know the. factor and here's the interesting
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: story you probably know this but maybe your listeners don't
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: uh he had a connection to the Ole Miss golf
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: coach and so when Arkansas was happening and he was
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: telling Arkansas I'm coming now there are people around him
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: who were I guess maybe skeptical maybe if that was
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: the only opportunity he would take it but he wanted
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: to make a run at Ole Miss before he I
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: guess was all in on Arkansas so he had a
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: connection to the Ole Miss golf coach and and reached
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: out to Chris Malloy, tried to say, hey, can you
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: do anything? Can you get me in the mix for
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: this job? He went to, at the time, a brand-new
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: athletic director, Keith Carter, had just gotten bumped up from
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: the interim, and was like, hey, we need to think
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: about Lane Kiffin. And there was skepticism about doing it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: One thing, which you might know this, Bobby, but the
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Manning family, not the biggest fans of Lane Kiffin, from
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: my understanding. Archie is still a huge deal at Ole Miss.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: He was, you know, I guess they gauged his opinion.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: It was not in favor of hiring Lane Kiffin. So
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: it was a massive risk for Ole Miss to do it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: And ultimately, and it's kind of funny looking back on it.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: they had this kind of conversation and one of their
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: top boosters said, we need a rock star right now
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: at Ole Miss. Like we need someone who's going to
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: juice up the base. We need a rock star. And
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: they got one in Lane Kiffin and all the best
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: and maybe worst ways of what a rock star can do.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: But they wanted to ultimately go down that path to
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: juice the base. But yeah, you're right. I mean, he
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: was telling people at Arkansas, I'm coming. And if he
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: didn't maybe get that Ole Miss golf coach to intervene
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: on his behalf, he could have been Arkansas's head coach.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I was told it was done. And then, cause they
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: needed money. And so I gave him money and I
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: never got my money back and we didn't even get him.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: How stupid is that? I never got my money. I
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: only gave it for Lane. I never got it back, John.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah. You got, I think you got gypped there. I got, yes.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: It could have been like a discounted, like, Hey, I'm sorry.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: We didn't get you Lane Kiffin. We're going to give
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: you your money back. We got Sam Pittman instead. We'll
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: roll a phone call for you.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: The parallels between Tennessee, it felt very, you know, leaving Cleveland,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: going to, the Ravens, you know, late night or just
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: any of this where people just kind of leave and
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: don't say anything and then everybody hates you after. It
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: felt very that. And all my Tennessee friends have a
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: dislike for Lane. That being said, the Ole Miss thing,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: the fans also hate Lane as well. Like he's done
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: that twice.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: He has. And, uh, I was in Oxford the day
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: he left. And so I was there at the airport
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: where I don't know if I've ever seen more middle
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: fingers aimed at anybody. They're like kids walking to the
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: plane and people are flipping them off. I mean, it
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: was like it was the full SEC experience in every way.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: And and I think that's what's like, again, you wonder
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: why write a book about Lane Kiffin. It is moments
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: like that because and I think even Lane would probably
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: say this, like when you evoke such a visceral reaction
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: to your departure, it means they cared. Right. And I
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: think that is like Ole Miss was so all in
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: on Lane Kiffin. And you could argue like their branding
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: really became much more about Lane Kiffin than anything else.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: Like it became the Lane Kiffin University with Ole Miss
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: attached to it. And so when he ultimately left after
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: selling this idea of like, I needed Oxford more than
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: it needed me. And I grew up in Oxford. People
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: really bought that and felt very betrayed when he ultimately left.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: And it is kind of a repeat of Tennessee and
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: the way that he left there and the strong reaction
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: in Knoxville with people burning, I think, mattresses and and
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: painting the rock everywhere. nasty things about lane kiffin and
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: that's two sec fan bases right there that are always
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: going to dislike the guy and that doesn't even count
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: just your general rivals who don't like usually the head
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: coach of their rival school so he's uh by far
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: the most interesting uh guy in the sec at this
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: point and certainly you know evokes the strongest reactions of
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: anyone in college football in my.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Opinion i have three questions left how do you feel
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: pete golding feels about lane kiffin.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: He's played very nice publicly, and I think he's said
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: all the right things. Now, sometimes you hear different things
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: behind the scenes, but I think Pete's just a ball coach, man,
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: and I think he's just like, I'm staying out of
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: the drama. I'm going to do my thing. I'm going
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: to just try to do everything I can to be successful.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: I think he appreciates that Lane was able to bring
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: him to Ole Miss. He's got Mississippi roots, obviously, Delta
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: State guy. I think it was very important to him
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: and his family to be back in Mississippi, be in Oxford.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: So I think he's appreciative of that. But there's a
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: moment where last season, Lane Kiffin, I believe it was
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: after the Oklahoma game where they won, where he basically
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: turned to Pete and was like, we could go to
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Florida right now if we want to. And Pete essentially
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: said like, I didn't come here for you. I came
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: here for me and I'm staying here for me. I'm
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: not just following you. So there was certainly some some
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: divide and some stuff that happened behind the scenes. And,
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: you know, we detail it in the book, but it
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: was an all out battle between LSU and Ole Miss
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: during the transfer portal. Those guys were duking it out
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: for players. Golden was having to do everything he could
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: to try to hold on to guys like Trinidad Chambliss
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: and Kiwan Lacey. while also preparing for playoff games. So
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: there was some bad blood in that moment. Again, I
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: think they're trying to let, you know, sleeping dogs lie.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: But there certainly was some friction after Lane left and
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: his staff was trying to do all it could to
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: raid Ole Miss's best players.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Why did Saban hire Lane? And what was that relationship
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: really like?
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: So the story that has always been told was that
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: he realized, and they use a car analogy that like,
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: Our offense is a Mercedes, but it's about to drive
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: off a cliff. That's always been a story that I've told.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: So I think Nick Saban realized, hey, the game's changing.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: I don't like it. I mean, you can remember he
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: used to complain about the hurry up, no huddle offense.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: He hated that stuff. And I think he was like, well...
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to stop it. I'm trying to get rule changes.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: It's not happening. I might as well get my own
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: guy who can do this. And so there was a
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: common denominator there. They have the same agent who's Jimmy Sexton,
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: who many believe most powerful person in college sports. And
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: so he got those guys together. Lane initially just came
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: in to kind of spend a week or so as
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Alabama did its bowl prep and ultimately Saban decided, I
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: need to make a change. Let's hire Lane Kiffin. And
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: How did the relationship work out? I mean, it was
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: friction pretty much from day one. And those guys are
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: just very different. And it's kind of funny to see
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: them interact with each other now. It's almost like I
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: compare Saban to like that grandfather who can kind of
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: laugh about their kid being like a wild man growing up.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: It's funnier now, but in the moment it was terrible. And,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: you know, you have Nick Saban who expects everyone to
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: do it a certain way. Like this is the process.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: This is how we do things now. Lane Kiffin is
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: like that little kid who just keeps asking why. Why
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: are we doing this? Why not do that? What about this?
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: As you can imagine, as a parent, you're like, just
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: stop asking me questions. Just do the thing. I think
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: that's how Saban reacted to him at times. It got
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: bad at times. There was a Vanity Fair excerpt about
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: my book that came out recently that that details some
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: of this stuff, but you know, Wayne Kiffin had some,
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: some off the field things happening during that time in
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Tuscaloosa that Nick Saban heard about, didn't love that created
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: additional friction between those two guys. So it was a,
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I think a mutual beneficial partnership. They won a national
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: championship together. He evolved Alabama's offense that when you paired
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: it with that defense felt nearly unstoppable and, But did
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: those guys ever love working with each other? No. But
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: they both appreciated that they could get something out of
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: each other. And certainly now that it's been a decade
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: since they had to work together, it's easier to remember
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: the good moments and not all the moments when Nick
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Saban was in Lane Kiffin's face screaming at him.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Joey Freshwater. Do you talk about him?
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: We do. So, I mean, you know, the stories, obviously,
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: it's been part of, I think, the Internet, I don't know,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: discussion point for a long time. And I talked to people,
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: you know, who were there at that time. And I
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: think as one person put it to me, like the
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Joey Feshwater stuff got out there for a reason. But
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: he was asking those things. And uh i don't know
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: this is 100 true it's actually not even in the
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: book but someone told me this after i wrote the
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: book that the joey freshwater name comes from he had
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: a friend in college and that was the name on
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: his college roommate's fake id was joey freshwater so all
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: the way back when he was in college somebody had
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: a joey freshwater fake id and evidently lane thought it
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: was a hilarious name was like i'm going to use
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: that uh so That's the story that I heard. I
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: don't know if that's 100% true, but certainly the Joey
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Freshwater stuff was out and about. And Bobby, I'll just
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: tell you, like, I don't judge people like do your thing.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: But I remember covering Alabama at that time. And like,
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: I'd get a text at like one 30 in the
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: morning on like a Friday night before a football game
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: being like, Hey, Wayne Kiffin's at this bar right now.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: And you're like, ah, it feels a little weird. I
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: don't really remember hearing that about a lot of other coaches.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: So he was just out there and visible in a
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: way that Nick Saban assistants just really were not. And yeah,
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: lane kiffin's a funny guy i mean joey freshwater is
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: a funny name there's there's no it's a hilarious line
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: uh and so that's like that's part of like the
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: lane kiffin thing too is like there's some dark stuff
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: there but there's also some funny stuff where he's like
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: he's got this great sense of humor and quick wit
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: where he can just have these things that he does
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: um and so freshwater is one of those like kind
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: of internet war things that is actually true in a.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Lot of ways I can't wait to read it. I'm
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: going to have to wait, actually, until it comes out, though,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: because I have such bad vision. If it's like halfway dark,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I can't read paper. I had one of those lights
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: you put on your head for my bed when my
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: wife was asleep, and it would wake her up because
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I can't see, and I have to read on my
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: iPad now. So the book does come out next week.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: You can pre-order it now, though, I'm assuming, John? Yep.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Anywhere you buy books, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Books A Million.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: And if I can, I'll do two quick shout outs.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: There's two great local bookstores. There's Little Professor in Birmingham
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: and Square Books in Oxford. Either one of those, you
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: can order a signed book today. So you can order
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: it today. I'll sign it and it'll get to you
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: the week that it comes out. So love to support
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: local bookstores as well. But yeah, all your big chains,
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: they'll all have it. You can order it right now.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: It'll be at your house on the 15th.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Are you saying if you go to those bookstores? Because I...
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I'm familiar with, I've written a couple of books and
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I know the process of like, you need different sales
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: from different places. Like it's a whole strategy, but there's
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: two really cool bookstores. Will they mail them if you
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: sign them? Can you go and order it from them
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: and then they send them in the mail?
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they can. Okay.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Say them again then for our listeners, because this is important.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: So say it again.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So there's Little Professor, which is in Homewood, Alabama.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: I think it's littleprofessorbookshop.com, which is just a great little
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: bookstore in the Birmingham area. I'm actually doing an event
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: there on Tuesday night, the night the book comes out.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: And then Square Books, it's like a famous bookstore in Oxford, Mississippi.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Google Square Books, Oxford, it'll pop up. I'm doing an
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: event there on Wednesday. And so both of those places
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: are You can order a signed book. I think especially
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: the square books one that gives you an option to
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: personalize it. So if you want, send it to your mom,
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: your dad, your son, brother, put in there what you want.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: I'll personalize it with anything that you want. People have
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: asked me to even put bad words in their personalization.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: I will do it for you. So you tell me
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: what you want in there. I'll do it. I'll sign it.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: We'll get it shipped out to you and you can
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: send it to anybody you want to think it might
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: be a good gift for.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: He will draw a wiener. uh it's not the worst
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: thing someone's asked me to do i'll tell you that
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: bobby again i felt bad that we had to cancel
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: on you the day before but i knew you'd understand
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: as soon as i told you there was a murder
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: here because it's so bizarre that somebody was killed right
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: here uh i do at some point or if you're
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: ever in nashville i would love to spend some time
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: with you and do this in person i was looking
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: forward to it uh do we have the same agent.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: I think we do uh i think that's how we
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: we uh we may have gotten connected here.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Or they work together is jerry your agent.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: I work with Ethan, who's with Jerry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Ah, that's pretty cool. Okay, we have another reason to
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: be friends then. Hey, I do really enjoy your work otherwise,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to be so supportive of this book,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: and I'm actually going to read it. I've never told
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: a single person that when they've come in and promoted
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: a book. I'm always like, that seems cool, but I'm
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: going to read this because I'm so interested in Lane.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: And I hate him so much that I love him.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: He's like, he's now my friend now, but it's like
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Brandon Walker. Like I hated that dude watching him on,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I hated everything about what he would say. Shut up
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: at Mississippi State. Shut up about knowing everything. And I
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: hated him so much. I started to enjoy as a
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: content creator myself, how good he was. And now he's
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: one of my friends. So Lane to me is like
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Brandon Walker, where I just, but I don't think I'd
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: be friends with Lane because I have artists that I
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: know that I have these huge personalities and they're the
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: way they are for a reason. They're successful for a reason.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: And I can enjoy their art and understand why they're great,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: but I don't think I could be personal life friends
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: with them. I don't feel like I could be personal
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: friends with Lane. I feel like our personalities are too different.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Your thoughts?
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: Well, one, I think Brandon is great, by the way.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: And I think Brandon also, he has embraced that wrestling
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: heel idea where he knows that there's a show here, right?
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: The thing that's interesting about Lane is, one, does not
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: have many close friends. I talked to his childhood best
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: friend for this book. He really doesn't have many close friends.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: And Bobby, I think the other thing that's really interesting
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: about Lane is that, and I kind of refer to
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: him as the Wizard of Oz in this book, where
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: I think because of his tweets and his little quips
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: and things like that, we think he's this huge personality.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: And when you're actually in person with him, he's awkward.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: He's introverted. He can be quiet. Like he's going to be,
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: you know, not necessarily looking you in the eye when
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: you talk, which again, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: But I just think that fans have this perception that
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: this guy's like, exploding off the screen uh when you
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: meet him and it's really not like that and it
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: was almost kind of funny that like talking to people
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: that have worked with him at Tennessee and Ole Miss
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: and things like that where they're like we can't bring
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: this guy to like donor dinners like if he was
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: the Arkansas coach we want to get him in front
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: of Bobby like maybe he can get Bobby some money
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: they couldn't do it like it'll end horribly if we
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: try to do that like it like we will actually
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: lose money if we try to get him in front
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: of our top donors because it goes so it's like
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: We'll put him in like a Q & A. We'll
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: let him do a little spiel. But like we don't
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: want him in these like these moments because he just
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: doesn't really know how to communicate. Like if it's not
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: talking about football, he's not very good at being able
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: to just like have small talk with you. So I
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: always thought that was something that's just so interesting about Lane.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: And another reason like why I wanted to write a
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: book about him is just like I think people think
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: because he's so great on social media, he's like this
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: hilarious guy in person. And like he's actually very different.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: And it's very interesting just how his personality is, which
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: I delve into the book a lot.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Oh no. You guys want to say it?
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: That's you.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: That's me. Maybe you all will be good friends. Everything
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: you just said is me. And people, when they meet
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: me in person, they're like, oh, this guy, either he's
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: a dick or he's weird. It's like, no, I just,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I kind of am on the spectrum too, a little
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: bit where it's like, once my microphone's not in front
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: of my face, everything's awkward. Maybe Lane's my best friend. Oh, no. Okay, everybody,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I hope you go and you order the book, you
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: get the book. John, again, thank you so much. I'm
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: really looking forward to meeting you in person. I love
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: just your writing in general. So thanks a lot. And
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I hope you sell so many that you write the
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: next book about the success of Ryan Silverfield at Arkansas,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: because he just comes out of nowhere and wins national championships.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: We'd love nothing more than to do that. Appreciate you
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: having me on, Bobby. It was a blast. And I
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: look forward to meeting you in person here sometime soon.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: All right, John.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: Thanks, man. See you later.
• 48:07
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  Speaker 6: You said Oklahoma minus five and a half?
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  Speaker 6: I try that and then it still sends a text.
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  Speaker 6: Which, you know, it can get annoying, but it's like,
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  Speaker 6: I get it and it's okay. That is plus 354.
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  Speaker 1: Mike, that's good enough, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: Is it plus 300?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Or more?
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  Speaker 5: I like it.
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  Speaker 1: So that's going to be mine.
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  Speaker 5: And I like that you threw in a little money
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  Speaker 5: line in there. That to me, that's like my style
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  Speaker 5: not pay that much, but let's throw that money line
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  Speaker 1: Eddie, that's true.
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  Speaker 5: That's my little technique.
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  Speaker 1: I love to do it. Hey, Eddie, that's true. Okay.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: You guys want to go to Super Bowls?
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm ready.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: I'm in. Mine's written down. All right, Kevin, Super Bowl.
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: Super Bowl is going to be the new... Just kidding.
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: I want to, but the Broncos and Rams.
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  Speaker 1: The Broncos' defense is so good. Yeah. And they have
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Jalen Waddell now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And if Bo Nix is healthy, which he's had, It
• 52:17
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• 52:21
  Speaker 1: was over.
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, nobody even knew until after the celebration.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So, okay, you got Broncos and Rams.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: Boom.
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  Speaker 5: Where is it this year?
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles.
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: Love it. So, in Los Angeles.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: And Miley Cyrus is doing halftime.
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: That's confirmed?
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I believe so. Really?
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Mike.
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: I didn't see that.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, I didn't see that.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Sometimes I just say stuff.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: But that'd be cool.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe I got scintilled.
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: Okay, so in L.A. with Miley Cyrus doing the halftime show.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she is confirmed.
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: Oh, good.
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: Not officially confirmed.
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  Speaker 5: It's rumored.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, so it's not confirmed.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: Dang, dude, the rumor got you.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: She's rumored to be confirmed.
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Eddie?
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: I have the Cowboys versus the Bills. A repeat from
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: the 90s.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a good one.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: I think that'd be awesome.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: You, is that your heart?
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no. Just look at the numbers and
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: you know, everything on paper. I think the Cowboys are
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: going to, you know, they're going to take the NFC.
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: A repeat from 30 plus years ago. Okay.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: And of course I'm going to have them winning. So
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: there you go.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Mike was in the womb. Uh, okay.
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: Mike, I have the Rams and the bills.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Okay. So you got two Rams.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: You and him both have the Rams.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: And then you and Eddie both have the Bills.
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: We both have the Bills. Interesting.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Okay. I have the Ravens.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: And the Rams.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: Big Rams believers in here except for just one.
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's only one team that needs to stop
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: the Rams. It's the Cowboys. Because yes, if you look
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: at it now.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: It's Seattle, dude.
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: There is Seattle. But if you look at it now,
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: the Rams just seem like no-brainer. Like 100%. These guys are.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I just don't think there's a no-brainer ever.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: That's why I think the Cowboys are going to be
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: the ones that stop them.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: So in preparation for the next NFL season, several executives
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: around the league were asked their thoughts and predictions on
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: which players and coaches would end up winning the postseason awards.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: So they tallied all the votes. And so again, they
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: did executives... Just executives. So yeah, okay. Are you ready?
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Most valuable player, according to the executives, who do you
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: think they picked? Or do you guys want to pick
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: who you think it'll be?
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I was going to go where Kevin
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: was going.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, you do who you think it'll be. And I'll
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: step out because I already see who it is. Or
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: I can play. This doesn't affect me.
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: I think it's going to be Dak Prescott.
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: Oh, interesting. I'll go with Josh Allen.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: I'll go Lamar Jackson. Mike?
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: Give me Prescott.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: The league executives have selected Joe Burrow.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: And if he's healthy, yeah. Yes.
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: Five years in a row, if he's healthy.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: We say that every year.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Offensive player of the year. It won't be a quarterback. Okay.
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: Hmm. Give me Jameer Gibbs.
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I'm going with.
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: Jameer.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I'd have went Bajon. Yeah.
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: If he was on a better team.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's a great point. That's a great point. That's
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: a great point. Then I would have gone Justin Jefferson.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: Love that. Mike?
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Give me Nakua. Nice. Yeah.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: That's good.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: They voted Jameer Gibbs.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay. So me and the execs.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: You and Kevin and the execs. Defensive player of the year.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: Aaron Donald.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: Stop.
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: It's got to be Myles Garrett.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: I would have thought Myles Garrett, too. It's got to be.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: He has an actual reason to play hard. Yeah. He
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: played hard without a reason.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: What's his reason now?
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: He's playing on a team that's actually playing for something.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: And you have to think, too, the Browns were losing
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: every game when he was playing. It's tough. So the
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: teams that were playing offense against him were just running
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: the ball the whole time because they were trying to
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: run the clock out. So it's not like he had
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities in the fourth quarter because they
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: were losing the whole time.
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: Good point.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: I would have guessed Miles Garrett. Mike? Give me Will
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Anderson Jr. That is who they pick, Will Anderson Jr.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: for the Texans. Offensive rookie of the year.
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: Jeremiah Love.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: Good guess.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Is that the only one you think of?
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: No. I mean, yeah, I guess. No, there's Tate.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: From the Titans?
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Titans.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I wasn't saying that like insulting. Because I can only
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: think of one defensive player that's a rookie that I think.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, me too.
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm trying to think.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: And the only reason I have my guess, and I
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: happen to be right with who they guess, is because
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: of fantasy. It's the only reason.
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: So to me, it wasn't that I'm so smart and
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: know all the personnel. No. I've just been studying fantasy,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: and this is the person that I made a point
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: to draft because Charbonnet's hurt. Ah. Yeah, Jadarian Price.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: Jadarian Price. Yeah.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: So I would have guessed him, but only because of fantasy.
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: I probably would have guessed Cornel Tate.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Titans.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I thought Caleb Downs just because of the Cowboys. Well,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: that's defense. Oh. I don't know. We yell at him.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: You stupid idiot.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: Because that's who I had locked and loaded for defense.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Defensive Rookie of the Year, Caleb Downs.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Downs.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Caleb Downs?
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's who I would guess.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: That's who they guessed.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: He's going to be awesome, dude.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Comeback player of the year.
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: Joe Burrow.
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: Joe Flacco.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Every year it's Joe Burrow. Yeah, or Joe Flacco. No,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: think different because this one's interesting because it wasn't like
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: this guy had a bad season. He got hurt.
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: I got it.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: Scataboo.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: No. He was never there to come back. Oh, dude.
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to think who got hurt.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Somebody got hurt. Big deal. We wondered if he was
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: going to be able to play.
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: Was it Bo Nix?
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: No, but okay, we're dancing.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: Oh, Patrick Mahomes.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: Comeback player.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Daniel Jones will be interesting too.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: Oh, he did get injured at the end of the year, huh?
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Towards Achilles.
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: And they're saying he's going to start week one.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Crazy.
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: He's crazy.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, breakout player. You're not going to get this.
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: Breakout? It could be. Fernando Mendoza.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: Brock Bowers.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Matthew Golden from the Packers.
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Coach of the year.
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: Diana, I mean.
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: What on earth? You're crazy, dude. Vrabel?
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going to guess.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I would have guessed.
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to think of a young, who's.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, I would have guessed Kubiak leaving from Seattle.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, to the Raiders.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Going to the Raiders. If they are mid to better,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: my guess would have probably been Kubiak.
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: I'll go Schottenheimer.
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to go Schottenheimer because he's going to
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: take him to the Super Bowl.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: The Cowboys?
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: They pick Brian Schottenheimer.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: Boom! See, we're on the same page, guys.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, I could have cheated and picked them all.
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: No, I know. Thank you for not doing that.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Do you want to know, in our league, what teams
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: we drafted?
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: Yes! Are you curious?
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't told you at all. Because... I.
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: Don't even remember.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have them up.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: Don't worry.
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: You got them?
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: Here's how I got it.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: For those that are listening, we play in a, it's
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: called a skins league. And we lost five grand last year.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: About $ 5, 000. I guess.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: Mine was like two something.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: As a group, yeah. You had 25% of the team. Yeah, yeah.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: So the year before, I had my own team. And
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: I won 4,800 or so. Maybe 5,800. Whatever it was.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: And what you do is you draft teams. And if
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: they win, you win. And if they lose, you don't win.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: But when everybody else wins, you have to pay them.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: And so it can get out of control fast, but
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: it can also, you can get way up fast. It's
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: almost like craps.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Like it can all go quick and craps.
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: So what you do is there's six of us on
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: the Zoom, six teams, and you snake draft one through six,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: back and forth, 36 picks. And you're wondering, well, there
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: aren't that many teams. Well, you can draft teams to
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: win or draft teams to lose. And if they lose,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: and you have them to lose, you get money every
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: time they lose. In the first round, we had two
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: losers taken, which has never happened before.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: Wow, two.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: And the reason is not because they don't lose a lot.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: It's because once it gets to the playoffs, they have
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: no chance to make extra money. But who do you
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: think the two teams to lose were?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: First come to mind is Cardinals. And the second are
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 6: the Dolphins.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: That's exactly it. They were both drafted in the first round.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I had the third overall pick. I think I bid
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: $ 100 to get the third overall pick. And so, let
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: me get them up here.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: I was confused by that. And I think every year
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: I'm confused by it. So when you pay or bid
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: to get the pick or whatever, you have to pay
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: that money? So that just goes into what?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: The final number that we pay. Even last year, I
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: think I bid $ 100 and we ended up paying the
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: $ 100 on it. And you just are bidding because if
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: there's a team you want. Like Matt Stell went first.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Like I have the order.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: And he bid the highest?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he bid $ 200 for that first pick.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: Saw him on a billboard.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: I did too.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Matt Stell?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, his new song.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: He's got a new single out.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good. Yeah. Yeah, it's good. Let me see here.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: What would that thread be called?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: Our thread? No, I have it. Skins.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: All right. No, our thread's called NFL Make Money.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Make Money NFL. Nice. Hope we're right. Or we'll
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: have to change that name.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, so the first pick overall was the Rams winner. Fair.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: The second pick overall was the Cardinals loser.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: Dang.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: I know, quickest I've ever seen a loser pick. And
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a great pick, and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: it's going to make them a lot of money. But
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I've just been burned doing that because at the end
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: of the year, sometimes they squeak out a couple.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: And then also, there's five weeks, four weeks of the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: playoffs that you can't make any money at all.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Patriots saved us last year in the playoffs.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Patriots saved us all year, dude.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: The whole year.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: That too, that too.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, I had a third pick. And Kevin, who do
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: you think I picked? Because we all kind of had
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: a pick. I had a pick that I picked. Eddie
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: had a pick he picked. Signs had a pick that
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: he picked. And then we just kind of as a
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: team did the other three because we were all on.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Trying to think who's... And what I factored in was
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: a team that I felt like was good and would win,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: but also strength of schedule.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: So I was thinking, like, the first team that popped
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: into the Seahawks, but I think they're going to have
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: a hard schedule and they're playing the Rams twice a year,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: so I wouldn't go Seahawks. A good team, strength of schedule... It's.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Too early, but Context clue was what we talked about earlier.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: Bucs. Bucs.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 6: Context clue, what we talked about earlier.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: Did you pick the Cowboys?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: No, I didn't.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: It was his pick.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: It was my pick.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: Eddie wanted to. I already forgot who you picked.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: I picked Baltimore.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, duh. The Ravens.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: I picked the Ravens.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Ravens.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: What do you think?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: I think it's solid.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: And that's what I want. I wanted a solid first
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: round pick. I feel like their strength of schedule... is
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: on the lower end of strong, and I think they're
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: going to be really good this year.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: Because they didn't even make the playoffs last year. So
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: they'll play like the third team in each division. Yeah,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: they'll be good.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: And like mentors a coach.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: And so I just hear people raving about him. So
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: we went with the Ravens' first overall pick.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: After that, there was a Dolphins loser. Then somebody picked
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: the Lions.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Then someone picked the Bills. Now, the Bills are going
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: to have a tough schedule. The reason I didn't pick
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: the Bills is because I do think they could probably
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: But if you play a hard schedule and you get
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs as a wild card, then you win
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, you still don't really make as much
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: money as you would have if you won 13 or
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: 14 games.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: Correct. Yeah, I agree.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, so that was the first six. Then we're on
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: to the second round. Then they picked the Seahawks. Okay.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: The Bengals.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: That wasn't you guys?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: That wasn't us.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Because it's Snake. It's Snake. After the Bengals was the Eagles. Okay.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: And then now it's back to us.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: Oh, you guys want Cowboys.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Well, I gave Eddie the option of the pick.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: Which I didn't know he was going to give me
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: the option.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: How nervous were you?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: Not nervous at all.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: You didn't feel any pressure after last year?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: No, no, because it was all Bobby's decision. And then
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: he starts like fumbling.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not fumbling. I had a full grid.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: On the Zoom.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: No, there's no fumbling.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: What do you mean fumbling?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I had a full grid.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: He was kind of like rubbing his head.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: I was doing a little show.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: And then he goes, Eddie, should we?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: And I go, let's go Cowboys.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: So we got the Cowboys.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: That's a good one, man.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: That's a good one.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Cowboys are in the second round. I do believe.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: I do believe.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: I like that one.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Then the Pats.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Then the Jets loser.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Now we're at the third round. Texans winner, Broncos winner.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Now it's back to us. And I'll say this. I
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: picked a loser in this third round. So who do
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: you think, because there's been a couple losers so far.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you got the Cardinals, Dolphins.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's only been two losers. There's been the, no,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: there's been three.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: Three.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been the Jets, the Dolphins, and the Cardinals.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Who do you think I picked as a loser next?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: Has to be the Browns.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: It is the Browns.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: Boom.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Glad you said that.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: I know, right?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: After that, Titans loser, 49ers winners, Raiders losers. And after
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: this third round, it gets to be hard because everybody's
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: predicted around 500. Yeah. Then it's Chargers. The Chiefs winners
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: didn't go until the fourth round.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 6: That's nuts.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I would have taken them if they'd have been available
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: in the fourth round, but I wasn't going to take
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: them before the Browns losers.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: Don't blame me.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. Chiefs winners, Packers winners, and then
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: it's to me. We let Mike Sines pick, and I
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: don't think it was a bad pick.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: But it's a winner.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: We picked a winner here. And this one is, we
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: think they're going to be pretty good, but also the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: division they play in.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: Is it the Vikings?
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's a tough division.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: It is a tough division.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: I picked them because I think they can win their division.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, the Bucs.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Same reason, but no, different division.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: Dang.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Different conference.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: Different conference.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: AFC.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: So you have the Texans, the Colts?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: Jags.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: Jags. Okay.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: Feel pretty solid.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: That's a good one.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: Because they could either win 12 games and it's like, okay,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: they got a good team, but they're also the Jags.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: And they could win nine and get in the playoffs
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: and maybe surprise.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: True. That is true.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: And it's hard. These backgrounds are tough.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: Are they going to live overseas for another month?
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Know, dude.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: I think they're playing. Aren't they playing?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: They always do. All their games are. Then there's Bears winners,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Vikings winners, Panthers losers, Falcons losers. I did take a
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: loser in this. This is the next to last round.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: Ooh.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: I have a loser here.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: This pick kind of struck me. weird because i wouldn't
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: have thought it but then the more i sit on
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: it i'm like this is a good pick.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: It's such a hard round though six and five and
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: six because you're out of all the good teams and
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: all the bad teams you're just at all mids and
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: so you got to kind of pick which direction you
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: want the mids yes.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: I can't remember if they already got picked it up
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: the raiders losers raiders losers got picked okay before that
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: right okay.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Um this one could bite us in the butt The
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: last two always can bite you in the butt.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: Like you said, Kevin, it's really close which way they
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: can go.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: We're screaming 500 here.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: But the Bucs already got picked. Falcons already got picked.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: AFC.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: It is AFC.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: Okay. C-South.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: Texans. Titans. Stay there.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, it is the Colts. Colts lose. Yeah. Okay.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Would you have picked a Colts winner or a Colts loser?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 6: Oh, gosh. Probably.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Uh probably a loser i know probably though right yeah.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: But because i just don't trust daniel jones coming off
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: that injury and they lost pitman as a receiver yeah
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: and they i mean the jags and texans are going
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: to be good so yeah probably a loser.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah uh then giants losers was taken saints winners was
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: taken bucks winners was taken um and it went snake
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: that was gonna take the bucks before I was going
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: to take the Colts loser, but since it's Snake the
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: other way, Bucks got picked before.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 6: They freaking stressed us out last year.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: They did.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Then Commanders loser, Colts winners. So Colts winners got taken
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: in the last round because everybody was torn. And so
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: we have one other loser team. Wow. And the last
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: two picks were somebody picking this team to win and
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: us picking them to lose. Oh, my. We're scrounging.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was going to say.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: I didn't even realize.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: I don't remember this pick. I'm trying to think of it.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: Jets, no.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Giants, no. Hurt quarterback. Not hurt anymore, but he was hurt.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Now he's just old.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: Now he's just old, Kevin.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I think Rico Dow's playing as a running back.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he is.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: Oh, the Steelers.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Steelers.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Steelers loser.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: That's, I mean, that could be great because the Ravens
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: play them twice too.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: So we have Ravens winner, Cowboy winner, Jags winner.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: Ravens, Cowboys, Jags.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: And then we have Browns losers, which I feel good
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: about that one.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: And then the two that are always tough in the
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: last two rounds, the Colts and the Steelers losers. Just
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: go 500, guys. We're good.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: That's all we need.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: And we'll have our other four win some games.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: That's a good one.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we felt pretty good about it.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Did you feel weird not having your strategy of doing
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: winner-loser team?
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: I couldn't because when I draft, it came back on
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: the back way, and they drafted Steelers winners, and so
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: I had to– no, no, after I drafted Colts losers.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: You wanted to do winners on that?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: They drafted Colts winners like four picks after.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Because I would have done that.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: That would have been the one.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, like we did last year?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: So that's the team that– make money team that you're
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: not in.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: I'll be rooting for you guys.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: You're in the team, though. Do you want in?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 6: No, but I'm going to be rooting for you guys.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Our team, we want the Ravens, Cowboys, and Jags to win.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Let's go, baby. We want the Browns, Colts, and Steelers
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: to lose. The big Cowboys. Yeah, yeah, big Cowboys.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: Podcast here.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: The big Cowboys guys here. Did somebody touch your kids
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: this weekend?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: What the... Yeah, dude.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: So.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: We're out at breakfast, me, my wife, and my two kids.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: And somebody, our waitress, she comes up and she's like, oh,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: you know, kids.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, your kids are cute.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 6: Oh, thank you. And then she just rubs my little
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 6: boy's hair, dude. Like rubs his head, like her fingers
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 6: through his head. And I'm like, interesting.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Okay. And she was super nice. I was like, whatever.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: It is what it is.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 6: And then we went to a department store after that.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: And we're looking at buying something. And this guy is
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 6: hanging out and helping us. And he's like, Looks at
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 6: my little boy, he's sitting in the cart, and he's like, oh,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 6: you're so cute. And he tickled him, dude, in his ribs.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, okay, two times in one day?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Like, is this normal? That one feels more weird than
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: the first one.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the first one I feel like it's okay.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: Only because it's a woman.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: And the hair.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: The hair's fine, like a little brush of the hair.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: Okay, but the guy tickling him.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: I don't like that.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: I don't like that either. Two reasons. One, guy.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Two, don't touch his body. All right. Don't touch him
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: at all. But second, don't touch his rib.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: Now, this is a stranger rule, right?
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: Like, if you don't know the parents or the babies.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if I know you, like, oh, yeah, yeah. Hey,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: this is my little boy.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: I feel like I do that, you know, like with,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: you know, kids that I know, you know, and their
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: parents do. I'm just like, ah, a little rib on
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: the shoulder.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Even if you get a little, like, close, you're like, hey,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: or peek-a-boo, whatever.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: But, like, to, like, touch, you know, to tickle him,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: I'm like.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: That's bizarre.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: That's weird.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: We're going to leave. What did you say?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: Did you punch him?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: I didn't say anything. I stuffed him in the fridge.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: You thanked him for touching your kid? Yeah. No, I
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: didn't do anything.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: I was like, okay.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: The fact that it was the second time in one day,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 6: I was like, okay, let's go home.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Is this just a segment of you bragging how cute
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: your kids are, though? No.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: It's Kevin flexing that everyone wants to touch his kids
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: because they're so cute?
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 6: No, I wouldn't do that. I mean, I don't need
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 6: to do that.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: But are your toys really cute?
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, they're my kids.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: Of course, they're really cute. Doesn't everybody think their kids
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: are so cute?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: Like my second son, I thought he was the cutest
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: thing in the whole wide world. But I look at
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: pictures now and I'm like, oh, gosh, he was so ugly.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Like he was so ugly, dude.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: And it's nuts because I remember thinking he was the
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: cutest little baby ever. And I know, and I remember
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: people would even laugh at me like, he's so cute.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: Now I know what that laugh meant. He was not
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: cute at all. He was pretty ugly.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Have you told him that?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: Nah, never.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: Will you tell him? You won't tell him?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Nah. He didn't watch this though.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: Uh-uh.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Nah, nah, nah.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: I don't think so.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like except for, but you even thought then
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: he was cute. I thought he was so cute. Everybody
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: thinks their kids are so cute.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: Until what point? Because my kids are 15, 16 months now,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: and I'm like, they're still just adorable.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: I think you will always think that they're really cute.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: What if in like five years, though, you look at
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: your second son and be like, dang, he was ugly
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: when I was talking about him on the show that day.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: It's just constantly. He's always ugly.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: He's 30 years old.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: You just have no idea. He's still ugly. You're like, no,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: at 30, you're like, he's a good looking guy, right?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: You see him at 25, you're like, oh, he's ugly.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: Hey, you guys. Yeah.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: All right, before we wrap this show, here are my
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: five super hot takes. I actually wrote this when I
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: was on the Rich Eisen Show and I never got
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: This is Rich Eisen material.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: Well, so I had it and I never used it.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Because I went into that. I'm just loaded because it's
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: all talk for three hours. Yeah. So you're in and
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be somebody who's just like scrounging
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: for stuff. So I had so many segments that I
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: had planned I never got to do. But this was
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: going to be my... Five super hot takes on Rich Eisenstein.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: And also, I kind of wanted to rattle the cage
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I wanted to talk about Kaitlyn Clark
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: because I like being a Kaitlyn Clark supporter, defender.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: So here we go.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Number five, Kaitlyn Clark is already more important to her
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: league than any athlete is to theirs right now. Not
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: the best, but the most important. There's a big difference there.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: And then I had, because she had just scored 37
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: points when I wrote that. Her 37-point performance is another
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: reminder of the attention surrounding her. So, again, I don't
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: think she's the best of everyone and their league, but
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: she is the most important athlete in their respective league
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: right now in American sports.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: Hot take?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's that hot.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to think of a counter of who else
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: it could be, but when it comes to their sport,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, LeBron is probably the only, but even he's
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: faded out the.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: Last couple years.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: He's holding out.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: And there's not really a young person in the NBA
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: you can point to.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: NFL.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: I feel like the NFL is going to stay on
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: top no matter who is the face.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: But there's not one dominant NFL person that makes news
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: regardless of what they do.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: I mean, Travis Kelsey is probably the biggest just because
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: of Taylor Swift.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: That's a good point.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: You know, I was going to go Josh Allen, but
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: because of just the play. But yeah, Travis Kelsey is
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: holding out.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: He's famous, but he's not important to the league. He's just– No.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: Someone who gets a lot of clicks. So anyway, that
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: was my number five.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: And then they would go, number four. And they all
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: weren't sports. That's where I was going to throw them
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: with the curveball.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: Okay. Yeah.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Number four was people who genuinely believe in astrology or
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: tarot card reading should never be taken seriously in anything
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: else they do either.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: I like that one.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Because people that really are like, oh. Oh, you're a Cancer?
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: I'm a Leprechaun, and we'd go together. Or whatever they are, Capricorn.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: So people who really live their life. Yeah, who believe,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: believe it. Because there's no scientific evidence that any of
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: that is true. Right. Like nothing with horoscopes, none, zero.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: It's fantasy land.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, number three. Aaron Rodgers going back to Pittsburgh was
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: more about Pittsburgh being addicted to being pretty good than
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: chasing a Super Bowl. Because they're not going to win
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 6: Heck no.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: And they could have cut bait. And I think they
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: have four quarterbacks in that quarterback room right now.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: They could have gone and just lost and done a Miami,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: done a Cleveland, done a Arizona, done that. But they
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: wanted Rodgers for another year. And I think they just
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: are just kind of obsessed with being a little bit
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: above 500 or 500. Yeah.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: And that was a time when they cut bait with
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: their head coach, Tomlin, for after, what, 15, 20 years,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 6: whatever it was. And you still can't cut the bait?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: So, yeah.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: I think Pittsburgh, that organization, is addicted to being pretty good.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 6: Which would be frustrating as a fan.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Number two, elected officials and judges should have to retire
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: by age 75.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: There's no reason.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: Not really a hot take.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, man, because we've seen.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: We worry if people are 80 driving a car.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Just straight up. And our last two presidents have been 100. Yeah.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: The pendulum's got to swing, but the problem is it's
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: going to be baby president. It's going to be somebody
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: super young next. And it could be.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: What's the youngest age?
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: Ever? I don't know. I'd probably put Kennedy as youngest elected.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: I think maybe there was a president younger than him
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: that was put in. Mike, in fact, checked me on this,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: but I think Kennedy was the youngest ever elected. Maybe
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Bill Clinton was second, but I think there may have
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: been one that was put in office that was younger
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: that wasn't elected.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: I think Obama was younger than Bill Clinton, right? Possibly.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: Mike, what do you see?
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 6: Kennedy was the youngest at 43 years old and Teddy
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: Roosevelt at 42.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Teddy was 42? But he went in... Assassination, yeah. After assassination.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: Oh, got it.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: Got it. So he was forced in.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: But yeah, youngest elected was JFK.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: Hey, pretty good.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: Pretty good, dude.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 6: How old do you have to be?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: 35?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: I don't... After the pendulum swings?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: 12.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: Okay. Perfect. Perfect. We're going to have teenage president.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: Now you can't drive your car because you're not old enough.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: And here was my number one.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: Rings.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: are the most overrated argument in sports. Championships matter, but
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: we've gotten lazy and we've turned every individual debate into
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: jewelry and rings. Robert Ori has seven rings. Charles Barkley
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: has zero rings. Nobody with functioning eyes or a brain
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: thinks Robert Ori was better. Winning is evidence, but it's
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: not the entire case. And in reality, none of those
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: were hot takes. I just say that at the beginning
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: because they all make a lot of sense.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: I agree with all of them.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: So that was it. Yeah.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 6: I feel like it's their go-to argument. But even with Brady,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, he has the most rings. But he
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 6: also was the greatest.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: No, it's ring-based. Brady's is ring-based fully. Because if you're
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: taking a quarterback, you take all the rings away. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not taking Brady first.
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  Speaker 4: Who are you taking?
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  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, stop.
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  Speaker 6: One season. One Super Bowl run.
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  Speaker 1: It's not even that. He was his own offensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 1: Like he actually ran the offense. But I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: he's better because you have to go– because it's close
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  Speaker 1: and then you go to championships.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and then it's not close.
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  Speaker 1: So if you were to say there was never a
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl played and we're just looking at these guys
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: playing regular seasons, I'm taking Peyton Manning over anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And then probably Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 6: You just like the guys that just talk and yell
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  Speaker 6: at the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 1: And does weird stuff.
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  Speaker 6: It's hard to take any of.
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  Speaker 1: Those 80s quarterbacks like Joe Montana because they just didn't
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: have to throw the ball a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Joe Montana, Jerry Rice connection was.
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  Speaker 1: I think, though, if I were taking, I would take
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Steve Young over Joe Montana. I think he was a
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: better quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: Now we're on hot takes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, because Steve Young could run.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, yes.
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  Speaker 1: And playing in today's league, Steve Young would... fit much
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  Speaker 1: better than Montana. Yeah. He was also a champion, too.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Dan Marino?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Marino's good. Another one.
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  Speaker 1: Later on, he couldn't move his legs, but Peyton Manning
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: couldn't move his head and his neck, so. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Rodgers can't move anything either.
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  Speaker 1: All right. That's it. Thank you, guys. Hope you guys
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  Speaker 1: have a good weekend. Eddie's 2017 parlay. We root for
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  Speaker 1: it every week.
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  Speaker 5: Come on, baby.
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  Speaker 1: $ 1 to win $ 10 million.
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  Speaker 5: I think this week I'm going to hit it.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: $ 1 to fix the economy. That's what Eddie says.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: All right. That'll do it. Blow the whistle.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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