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GORGEOUS COED DISAPPEARS IN FOG ON BRIDGE: WHERES SYDNEY? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greace.
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Speaker 2: A beautiful young teen girl Sidney West and one of
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Speaker 2: the most beautiful spots in our country, the Golden gate
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Speaker 2: Bridge is out for a walk early morning. She is
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Speaker 2: seen on a video walking into the fog. Is very
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Speaker 2: foggy there and she's never seen again. I'm Nancy Grece.
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Speaker 2: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
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Speaker 2: here at Fox Nation and Sirius xem one eleven. Where
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Speaker 2: is Sydney West. I've been to the Golden gate Bridge
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Speaker 2: many many times. My sister lives in that area, and
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Speaker 2: we've taken our children, the twins there and we always, always,
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Speaker 2: always at least once per trip, walk all the way
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Speaker 2: across the Golden gate Bridge.
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Speaker 3: And all the way back, and you would.
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Speaker 2: See some type of commotion if someone were attacked, if
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Speaker 2: somebody jumped, if somebody fell, you would see it and
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Speaker 2: hear it because there's always people walking and jogging and
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Speaker 2: driving on the Golden gate Bridge.
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Speaker 3: Where did this girl disappear?
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Speaker 2: To the question asked today by her parents, First of all, guys,
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Speaker 2: take a listen to this.
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Speaker 4: Hi. We are Sydney West's parents. As many of you
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Speaker 4: have heard by now, our daughter has not been seen
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Speaker 4: or heard from when she was last seen near the
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Speaker 4: Golden gate Bridge early in the morning before sunrise.
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Speaker 3: You are asking anyone who may have the.
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Speaker 5: Information about Sydney to please contact investigators. We love Sydney,
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Speaker 5: we miss Sydney and want more than anything have her
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Speaker 5: found safe and brought back to our home. Please call
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Speaker 5: the San Francisco Police Department twenty four hour tip line
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Speaker 5: if you or anyone you know may have seen her.
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Speaker 6: A desperate plea from the parents of a missing San
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Speaker 6: Francisco woman. Nineteen year old Sidney West has not been
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Speaker 6: heard from since last Wednesday. She was a student at
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Speaker 6: UC Berkeley. She lives in San Francisco, and police a
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Speaker 6: West was last seen at Chrissy Field near the Golden
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Speaker 6: gate Bridge. She moved to the Bay Area from Chapel Hill,
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Speaker 6: North Carolina in August.
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Speaker 2: You were hearing not only her father speaking, but also
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Speaker 2: our forensic KNTV with me an all star panel. To
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Speaker 2: make sense of what we know right now, I want
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Speaker 2: to first go out to Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author
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Speaker 2: of Why Bad Looks Good and author of Red Flags.
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Speaker 2: You can find her at wendypatrickphd dot com and She's
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Speaker 2: a star of today, Doctor Wendy on KC BQ. Wendy Patrick,
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Speaker 2: this is your next of the Woods. And I've told
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Speaker 2: you this story before, but it's to put it in
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Speaker 2: perspective about the fog disappearing into the fog. It almost
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Speaker 2: sounds like a movie, but it's not. And right there
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Speaker 2: in the Bay area, it's very real. One time before
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Speaker 2: the twins were born, David and I went up to
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Speaker 2: the very top of the Mark, at the top of
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Speaker 2: the Mark the hotel, and David said, quick, come look,
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Speaker 2: and we went out on when you could still go
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Speaker 2: out on a balcony and Wendy, it was the most
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Speaker 2: incredible thing. I had never seen anything like it. The
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Speaker 2: fog was rolling in off the Bay. And this was
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Speaker 2: in the late afternoon, like maybe five or about five o'clock.
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Speaker 2: It was rolling in and I watched it come across
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Speaker 2: the water, across the Golden Gate Bridge and come across
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Speaker 2: the city of San Francisco. Wendy, it completely covered the city,
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Speaker 2: and this thick fog off the bay. You couldn't see
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Speaker 2: anymore tops of buildings or houses.
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Speaker 3: You could see nothing.
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Speaker 2: It was like we were floating in a sea of
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Speaker 2: grayish white fog is completely blanketed the city. So when
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Speaker 2: I first heard about Sydney disappearing into fog, I was imagining, oh,
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Speaker 2: like a fog machine or a smoke machine where you
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Speaker 2: can see a silhouette. This is so thick you can
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Speaker 2: see nothing, and I would not have believed it if
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Speaker 2: I hadn't seen it myself.
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Speaker 7: You know that's true, and that's one of the reasons
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Speaker 7: we very first look at weather conditions surrounding a disappearance.
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Speaker 7: And then obviously you moved to well, who would have
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Speaker 7: been close enough to have seen what happened if something
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Speaker 7: happened on the bridge, even if nobody outside of the
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Speaker 7: bridge could have seen it. But you know, Nancy, you
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Speaker 7: talk about being there and visiting your sister with the
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Speaker 7: twins walking across the bridge.
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Speaker 3: You also know.
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Speaker 7: It's only at one point seven miles across. People think
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Speaker 7: this bridge just goes on forever and it's impossible to
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Speaker 7: get from one side to the other.
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Speaker 8: So one of the things about last seeing this.
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Speaker 7: Beautiful young woman on one side of the bridge doesn't
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Speaker 7: necessarily mean because of the cloud cover, she couldn't have
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Speaker 7: actually crossed that distance. So the fog is an issue
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Speaker 7: not just in determining who do you talk to who
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Speaker 7: might have seen what happened after she lost after they
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Speaker 7: lost sight of her entering the fog, but who might
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Speaker 7: have actually been there to see what happened when she
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Speaker 7: was close enough to get.
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Speaker 3: A good visual.
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Speaker 2: So I'm very curious about the cameras on the Golden
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Speaker 2: Gate Bridge. Where are they positioned? Are they on either end?
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Speaker 2: Are they in the middle? Because no one heard any
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Speaker 2: splash of water, and you would hear it. No one
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Speaker 2: saw a scuffle, nothing. She walked on the bridge and
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Speaker 2: that was it. Did she come off the other side? Obviously,
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Speaker 2: yes she did. But was she in a group of
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Speaker 2: people where she wasn't seen? There's so many questions, guys,
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Speaker 2: now take a listen to this.
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Speaker 4: Sydney, or Sid as she likes to be called, is
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Speaker 4: a kind, caring young woman who has away with younger children,
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Speaker 4: especially her ten year old sister, who she's adored since
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Speaker 4: the day she was born and who misses her desperately.
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Speaker 5: Sid is an incredibly talented musician, an athlete, an artists,
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Speaker 5: and is highly intelligent. Sidney's five ten, one hundred and
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Speaker 5: thirty pounds and was the last seen wearing long dark leggings,
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Speaker 5: a teal sweatshirt with her hair and upon on top
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Speaker 5: of her head. This is every parent's nightmare and all
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Speaker 5: we want is our daughter Sidney to be found safe
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Speaker 5: and brought home to our family.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, guys.
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Speaker 2: Another aspect of this is that there are Golden gate
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Speaker 2: Bridge live webcams.
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Speaker 3: Have you ever seen one of those?
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Speaker 2: Anybody on the panel to doctor Angie Old, psychiatrist joining
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Speaker 2: us at the Atlanta Jurisdiction dealing specifically with women's issues.
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Speaker 2: You can find her at Angela Arnold MD dot com. So,
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Speaker 2: doctor Angie Arnold, didn't you send me a live webcam
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Speaker 2: shot of something recently?
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Speaker 9: I believe I did.
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Speaker 8: Nancy, do you remember.
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Speaker 4: What it was?
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Speaker 2: No, I do. It was of some beach somewhere. Now
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the webcam right now, and I'm looking
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Speaker 2: at the chrissy Field webcam. There's also one of the
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Speaker 2: Golden gate Bridge, so they have video. But the problem
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Speaker 2: with the video is if the fog is there, it's
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Speaker 2: not telling me much. I mean, you can see her
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Speaker 2: going on, but that's it. I'm looking at the chrissy
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Speaker 2: Field webcam right now. You know, doctor Angela Arnold, what
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Speaker 2: do you make of some people that claim she wanted
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Speaker 2: to disappear, because I'm not buying that, as I've spoken
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Speaker 2: with her family, I don't think that's what happened.
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Speaker 9: Well, Nancy, I believe that people we all try to
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Speaker 9: make these things right in our in our minds.
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Speaker 3: Right, that doesn't really sound that professional.
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Speaker 2: No offense, because I know you're my favorite psychiastic twenty's
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Speaker 2: ready to do, but something's not right.
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Speaker 3: That's not exactly what I was looking for.
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Speaker 9: What we try to explain things, we try to come
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Speaker 9: to an explanation of why something could have happened.
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Speaker 3: You mean nationalized, yes, And.
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Speaker 9: One of the things you know, Nancy, it's in what
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Speaker 9: we call a differential diagnosis.
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Speaker 3: Okay, what now I'm learning something new.
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Speaker 9: What So, a differential diagnosis is when you're giving when
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Speaker 9: you're given a set of you're given your information. And
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Speaker 9: what what we were trained as doctors to do is
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Speaker 9: we've got to think of every possibility that we could
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Speaker 9: look at with the information that we're given. And so
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Speaker 9: to say that she possibly just wanted to disappear is
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Speaker 9: an option. That doesn't mean it's the correct option by
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Speaker 9: any stretch of the imagination. But there will always be
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Speaker 9: people who who feel very strongly about that. And as
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Speaker 9: far as the cameras are concerned, Nancy, if you know,
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Speaker 9: a fog can can make us not see things that
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Speaker 9: are really there, or can't it. And so if you're
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Speaker 9: not if you're not looking, if you're not anticipating something,
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Speaker 9: then people's minds are going to play tricks with them. Okay,
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Speaker 9: And as you and unconsciously our minds play tricks with us.
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Speaker 9: So as you said, nobody heard, nobody heard anything, nobody
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Speaker 9: saw anything.
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Speaker 2: I hate it when you say that or anybody says
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Speaker 2: that nobody heard anything, nobody saw anything, because I heard
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Speaker 2: that so often and my criminal investigations. But you're right,
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Speaker 2: doctor Angie, and I want to point out one more thing.
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Speaker 9: Go ahead, because Nancy, maybe nobody was really paying attention
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Speaker 9: that morning.
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Speaker 3: You know that's a really good point.
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Speaker 2: Let me go to auj Conkline, joining us investigative crime
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Speaker 2: reporter for Fox and Use Digital. Aujie, thank you for
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Speaker 2: being with us. About what time was it she went
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Speaker 2: onto the bridge.
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Speaker 8: She went onto the bridge around six forty five am.
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Speaker 8: Specific time.
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Speaker 3: It's not that early.
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Speaker 2: That's still catching all the morning joggers and those people
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Speaker 2: that work out have the energy to work out first
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Speaker 2: thing in the morning. That is a prime time for
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Speaker 2: people jogging and walking, even biking. They've got a little
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Speaker 2: bike lane across the Golden gate Bridge. But I want
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Speaker 2: to point out something else. Brian Fitzgibbons is with us
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Speaker 2: VP of Operations for you SPA Nationwide Security at uspasecurity
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Speaker 2: dot com, and I'd like to point out he was
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Speaker 2: involved in the Kingsman Philanthropics twenty twenty two rescue missions
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Speaker 2: of women and children in Ukraine. Is also any rot
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Speaker 2: warvet that's neither here nor there. But I want you
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Speaker 2: to understand who Fitzgibbons is and why we have him
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Speaker 2: on today. You know, Brian Fitzgibbons, have you ever been
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Speaker 2: to the Golden gate Bridge?
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, Nancy. My brother actually lives right across it in
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Speaker 10: San Lensemo. And I think a key point that you
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Speaker 10: were just discussing with doctor Angie is that without this
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Speaker 10: video being released to frame public perception of how many
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Speaker 10: other pedestrians were on the bridge at six forty five
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Speaker 10: in the morning, was a real missed opportunity by the
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Speaker 10: SFPD and the officials looking for Sydney here. The reason
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Speaker 10: I say that is if we could see any of
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Speaker 10: that security footage or the public could see it, their
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Speaker 10: perception would be framed in the sense that there were
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Speaker 10: a lot of witnesses to Sydney walking across that bridge.
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Speaker 2: What he's trying to say and security talk is they didn't.
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Speaker 3: Release the video. Yes exactly, we know about the video.
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Speaker 2: Everybody knows about the video, but we've never seen the video.
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Speaker 2: Isn't there a stell photo of for walking into the fog?
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Speaker 2: There's one steal? Hey still with you, Brian Fitzgibbons. So
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Speaker 2: on one side is the city of San Francisco, and
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Speaker 2: you get on the bridge and it's there at chrissy Field.
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Speaker 2: We keep talking about. Chrissy Field is a strip of
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Speaker 2: land on the edge of the water. I guess they
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Speaker 2: have if I recall correctly, they have softball fields and
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Speaker 2: a lot of green space.
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Speaker 3: But you go over the bridge and on the other.
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Speaker 2: Side of the bridge, which is where we always go
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Speaker 2: and have photos from my father who was in the
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Speaker 2: Navy and shipped abroad during the Navy in the World War.
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Speaker 2: On the other side, Brian, is the Navy statute of
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Speaker 2: the young man being shipped off. That's exactly where my
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Speaker 2: Dad traveled from Oglethorpe, Georgia, all the way to San Francisco.
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Speaker 3: He had never been.
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Speaker 2: Out of Alabama, or Georgia or Florida in his life,
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Speaker 2: lied about his age to join the Navy, get shipped
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Speaker 2: to San Francisco, and that's where a lot of the
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Speaker 2: Navy recruits gets sent away. Anyway, point is it's right
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Speaker 2: when you get off the bridge, Brian, And do you
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Speaker 2: know on one of the days that we crossed, the
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Speaker 2: fog was so bad that sitting at that statue, you
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Speaker 2: could not even see the entrance.
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Speaker 3: To the bridge.
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Speaker 2: You could barely see the top of the bridge, very tall,
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Speaker 2: but the fog was so heavy.
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Speaker 3: That's the memorial.
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Speaker 2: Right as you get off the bridge on the other
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Speaker 2: side and you couldn't even see the bottom of the bridge.
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Speaker 3: That's how thick it was.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely that fog is tremendous and it was certainly impeded.
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Speaker 10: You know how clear that footage was. But I'm stuck
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Speaker 10: on the fact that that footage being released could help
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Speaker 10: inspire folks to come forward who are on that bridge
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Speaker 10: that morning, because you know, there are quite as you
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Speaker 10: mentioned earlier, there are quite a few joggers, pedestrians, people
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Speaker 10: walking to work getting their exercise in. This is not
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Speaker 10: that's not a dead time on the bridge.
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Speaker 2: Well, Brian gives a have shown anything such as it
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Speaker 2: could have shown, because I'm sure that there are security
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Speaker 2: cams down on Chrissy Field where you walk up the
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Speaker 2: field if you want to go that way, walk up
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Speaker 2: the field and then get on the bridge. There's a
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Speaker 2: lot of ways to get to the entrance to the bridge.
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Speaker 2: But those cameras could have shown if somebody was following her,
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Speaker 2: if someone was right on her heels, if someone put
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Speaker 2: their arm around her, which we've heard nothing about that.
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Speaker 2: But also, Brian Fitzgibbons, let's talk about the other side,
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Speaker 2: because you got to go somewhere and no one heard
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Speaker 2: a splash and no one saw anyone jump, all right,
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Speaker 2: so we don't think that happened. So she can't sity
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Speaker 2: on the bridge river she's got to get across. She
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Speaker 2: could have easily been in a group or forced to
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Speaker 2: put her head down by the arm, taken by the arm,
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Speaker 2: and taken off that bridge, and she may not have
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Speaker 2: even emerged in view of the camera.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, And once you get off to the the other
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Speaker 10: side of that bridge. In TOAs Alito Uh, it's it's
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Speaker 10: much more remote where you know, the description of a
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Speaker 10: potential event that you just talked about unfolding is much
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Speaker 10: more likely on that side of the bridge than on
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Speaker 10: the San Francisco side.
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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick again, this is your neck of the woods.
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Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor and author her new book Why
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Speaker 2: Bad Looks Good. Wendy, I've noticed exactly what Brian is saying.
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Speaker 2: It seems like everybody is cramming to get onto the
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Speaker 2: bridge on the San Francisco side, and then when you
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Speaker 2: get over to the other side, whether the Navy where
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Speaker 2: the Navy statute is not so much.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, one thing I was thinking about when
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Speaker 7: you talk about camera Obviously we use this to identify
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Speaker 7: other witnesses that may have been there, that may have
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Speaker 7: heard something, seen something. You know, lots of people are
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Speaker 7: on the phone as they walk, and people overhear other conversations.
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Speaker 7: But when you talk about cameras, that was one of
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Speaker 7: the most curious things about this investigation is almost you know,
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Speaker 7: the different ways in which these cameras appear to be
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Speaker 7: traditionally used rather than the kind of surveillance we're used
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Speaker 7: to seeing in subpoenaing in criminal cases, and Nancy, there's
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Speaker 7: no reason why these should be treated any different. I
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Speaker 7: can't imagine there haven't been tonsive investigations that have involved
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Speaker 7: surveillance on the Golden Gate Bridge, particularly because of the
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Speaker 7: fog problem. When you're talking about a location that crime
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Speaker 7: might be committed, that's going to be obstucated in a
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Speaker 7: very unique way. Talk about the San Francisco Bay, you
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Speaker 7: would think those cameras would be of heightened significance, especially
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Speaker 7: in a missing person's case like this.
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Speaker 2: You know, I had a friend that drowned in the
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Speaker 2: San Francisco Bay many years ago.
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Speaker 3: My friend Bob and as our car.
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Speaker 2: All of the camera footage and the whole area was
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Speaker 2: obtained to find out where he was, and he was
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Speaker 2: found out in the bay. She would have been found
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Speaker 2: if she had struggled and fallen over, she had jumped,
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Speaker 2: if she was pushed, and you would have heard the splash,
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Speaker 2: No doubt in my mind someone would have seen it
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Speaker 2: or heard it. Guys, the angst this is causing, the suffering,
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Speaker 2: This is causing her family.
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Speaker 11: Listen, sid Jen Pierry here, look we miss you like crazy.
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Speaker 11: You've left a crater in our lives. Your mom, who
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Speaker 11: is one of the most amazing people in.
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Speaker 9: The whole world.
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Speaker 11: She loves you so much, Your dad, your sister. You
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Speaker 11: just left a creator in all of our lives. Need
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Speaker 11: you to get home, make memories with us. In my
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Speaker 11: Facebook year and re few came up here in about
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Speaker 11: ten different pictures because every moment with you was special.
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Speaker 11: My girls love you.
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Speaker 3: We all love you so much.
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Speaker 11: And we want to make more memories with you. In fact,
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Speaker 11: I'm in terms of king Ghost right now. You inspired
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Speaker 11: us to get down here. You've got your scuba license here,
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Speaker 11: you took your senior pictures here. We want to make
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Speaker 11: memories with you. We want to have fun. Let's make
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Speaker 11: the year of Sid coming home and healing our heartbreak.
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Speaker 8: Love you so.
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Speaker 3: Much, Come home, Sid.
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Speaker 2: You know the family firmly believes that this girl is
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Speaker 2: out there, that she didn't just disappear that day into
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Speaker 2: thin air the way that they described her absence. You've
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Speaker 2: left a crater in our lives. I've never heard that before,
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Speaker 2: and it's so perfect. There are so many clips, so
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Speaker 2: much sound of family begging for help finding her, finding
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Speaker 2: this beautiful girl. Sydney West. I want to talk about
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Speaker 2: the cameras. What do we know about the facts, And
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Speaker 2: it's only the facts that can help bring her home.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen to our friends at kr N.
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Speaker 12: Sydney was last seen on the gold and Gay Bridge
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Speaker 12: just before seven am. Her parents said Sydney liked visiting
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Speaker 12: the Golden Gate Bridge, and cameras on the bridge recorded
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Speaker 12: her the morning she disappeared.
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Speaker 3: However, there was heavy fog.
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Speaker 12: That morning that obscured being able to see what happened
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Speaker 12: to her.
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Speaker 13: You know, that morning that Sydney was on the bridge,
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Speaker 13: there was a lot of people that were near her.
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Speaker 13: I know this because I reviewed the video. So we
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Speaker 13: just we absolutely believe that somebody must know something.
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Speaker 2: You know, Bryphius Gibbons, VP of Operations USPA Nationwide Security, Brian,
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Speaker 2: I don't get it that the family has seen the video,
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Speaker 2: but to my knowledge, it has not been released.
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Speaker 3: Why.
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Speaker 10: That's a great question, Antie, and one that I had,
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Speaker 10: you know, as I mentioned earlier, and I don't want
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Speaker 10: to beat a dead horse, but that could have that
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Speaker 10: could inspire people to come forward. You mentioned it, and
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Speaker 10: you said it better than I did that you know,
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Speaker 10: I saw nothing, I know nothing is the worst thing
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Speaker 10: that we could hear from witnesses. And when people see that,
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Speaker 10: all the other folks that were on the bridge that morning, undoubtedly,
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Speaker 10: you know, on TV or on social media, it's definitely
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Speaker 10: going to put some you know, I have a persuasive
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Speaker 10: impact for people to come forward and share what they
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Speaker 10: remember from that day.
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Speaker 2: And I've never seen a case like it. To aug
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Speaker 2: Conklin joining us from five stays digital all the time.
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Speaker 2: Anytime you look at the news, you see video camera surveillance.
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Speaker 2: Whenever you're trying to find someone, be it a victim
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Speaker 2: that's gone missing or a purp that's done a bad deed,
20:36
Speaker 2: we see video camera surveillance between ring doorbells, between when
20:42
Speaker 2: you combine in traffic light cams with business surveillance video.
20:49
Speaker 2: And I always harken back to the case of missing
20:51
Speaker 2: Connecticut mom of five, Jennifer Dulo's. How police actually put
20:56
Speaker 2: together is a work of art. They put together just
21:00
Speaker 2: what I said, red light, stop sign video, business video,
21:07
Speaker 2: ring video. They even managed to catch the subject who
21:12
Speaker 2: I believe killed Jennifer Doulo's speeding by when a bus
21:17
Speaker 2: opened its doors and a bus cam caught the defendant.
21:23
Speaker 2: And they married it altogether to create a very clear
21:28
Speaker 2: picture of what happened the day Jennifer was murdered. So
21:33
Speaker 2: I'm very curious, Audrey, about why this video has not
21:38
Speaker 2: been released in any other video along that area where
21:42
Speaker 2: she entered the bridge, or tons of shops and restaurants there.
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Speaker 8: That's obviously a really big question one that I think
21:49
Speaker 8: her family and everybody following this case is wondering. Why
21:52
Speaker 8: haven't we seen any footage of Sydney on the bridge?
21:55
Speaker 8: And if you talk to her family or their private investigators,
22:00
Speaker 8: Scott Dudek, they say that the footage belongs to the
22:04
Speaker 8: Golden Gate Bridge, obviously government property, and I guess they
22:09
Speaker 8: never release that footage, any kind of bridge footage to
22:12
Speaker 8: the public.
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Speaker 3: I've never heard that before.
22:14
Speaker 2: Every surveillance video you see when you're investigating a case
22:18
Speaker 2: like at an atm well that belongs to the bank.
22:21
Speaker 3: But we get it. It's called a subpoena.
22:23
Speaker 2: And not only that, what about the welcome center that's
22:27
Speaker 2: on one side that side of the bridge we're talking about,
22:31
Speaker 2: or video from the other side of the bridge. There's
22:34
Speaker 2: tons of shops, as I said, and restaurants along the
22:38
Speaker 2: way leading up to the interest, we've seen none of that.
22:41
Speaker 2: Do you know about any of that video, Auto, because
22:44
Speaker 2: I do not.
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Speaker 8: I do not either. I have only heard of one
22:47
Speaker 8: video in particular that the parents have reviewed showing Sydney
22:51
Speaker 8: on the bridge, and that's all they have to my knowledge.
22:54
Speaker 2: Sounds to me like somewhere along the lines, LA law
22:59
Speaker 2: enforcement has dropped the ball, because there's got to be
23:01
Speaker 2: more video than just the bridge video.
23:03
Speaker 3: Guys take to listen. Our friends at wg.
23:05
Speaker 14: RZ cameras on the Golden Gate Bridge captured her there,
23:09
Speaker 14: but because of the fog they lost sight of her.
23:12
Speaker 14: There were a lot of people on the bridge though,
23:15
Speaker 14: there's people walking, running, biking, driving. So the fact that
23:22
Speaker 14: all of our pleas to the public and all of
23:24
Speaker 14: the information out there, nobody has seen anything is just
23:28
Speaker 14: so baffling to us.
23:29
Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor and author, start off today with
23:33
Speaker 2: doctor Wendy. Wendy, how many times have you argued to
23:36
Speaker 2: a jury as I have, what do you want a video?
23:40
Speaker 3: Because that's not going to happen.
23:41
Speaker 2: And here we've actually got a video, but because of
23:44
Speaker 2: the weather conditions, I mean, even if we could see
23:47
Speaker 2: it and show it to the public.
23:49
Speaker 3: What could it really reveal?
23:51
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right, we say pictures worth a thousand words
23:53
Speaker 7: of video is priceless. But would it reveal just walking?
23:56
Speaker 7: Would it reveal talking? Would it reveal other witnesses which
23:59
Speaker 7: we subpoena that may have taken their own cell phone
24:02
Speaker 7: camera videos like every single person does. But you're right,
24:05
Speaker 7: if it just showed her crossing from one end of
24:07
Speaker 7: the bridge to the next, that would at least give
24:09
Speaker 7: investigators something to work with to where we would think, well,
24:13
Speaker 7: we're now going to refocus the investigation on the other
24:16
Speaker 7: side of the one point seven mile bridge. It would
24:18
Speaker 7: be something and it would reduce doubts in terms of
24:23
Speaker 7: what happened where, So at the very least it would
24:26
Speaker 7: focus where the next investigative step would take place.
24:29
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, Jackie has had a very unique theory.
24:32
Speaker 3: What if she didn't walk all the way across? What
24:34
Speaker 3: does she turned around and came back.
24:36
Speaker 2: I've never thought of that because I've never met anybody
24:39
Speaker 2: that started walking across the Golden Gate Bridge and quit
24:43
Speaker 2: and did not go all the way across. How long
24:45
Speaker 2: is it does somebody say one point seven miles across
24:48
Speaker 2: each way?
24:49
Speaker 7: One point seven mile across.
24:51
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
24:52
Speaker 2: To me, that's illogical to go halfway and come back.
24:55
Speaker 2: But what if she did, how would that play into
24:59
Speaker 2: the search?
24:59
Speaker 3: Why fhis gibbons?
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Speaker 10: That's a that's a great point, and you know I
25:03
Speaker 10: have to agree with you that I can't imagine she's
25:06
Speaker 10: going back. This is a high level athlete that was
25:09
Speaker 10: recruited to play volleyball at a Division one school. You know,
25:14
Speaker 10: so if she's out doing a workout one point seven miles,
25:17
Speaker 10: it's nothing for her.
25:19
Speaker 3: I mean, really, that is nothing.
25:21
Speaker 2: You're right, because I remember the twins and I first
25:25
Speaker 2: walked across the bridge when they were about eight, when
25:27
Speaker 2: while all the way to one side and came all
25:29
Speaker 2: the way back. So if they could do it at
25:31
Speaker 2: age eight, she's an athlete, You're right, exactly.
25:35
Speaker 10: She's a high level athlete. I mean, what percentage of
25:38
Speaker 10: volleyball players are playing at the collegiate go from high
25:41
Speaker 10: school to the collegiate level to begin with, and never
25:44
Speaker 10: mind to a Division I program, So you know this
25:48
Speaker 10: is this is somebody who their fitness level is very high.
25:54
Speaker 10: So she went there with a purpose. You'll remember that
25:56
Speaker 10: she was She took an uber to Chrissy Park. You
26:01
Speaker 10: know there was a purpose behind this, and I can't
26:04
Speaker 10: imagine that it was to go halfway across the bridge.
26:06
Speaker 3: And come back. You know.
26:07
Speaker 2: It's another interesting point, doctor Angela Arnold joining us renowned
26:11
Speaker 2: psychiatrist ordering us out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. Her father
26:15
Speaker 2: had a very long phone conversation with her the night before,
26:19
Speaker 2: nothing was wrong, and they plan to talk again the
26:23
Speaker 2: next day. It's how many every time I come home
26:26
Speaker 2: from work, I call my mom now or would call
26:29
Speaker 2: my mom and dad to check on them and say, Okay,
26:32
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you tomorrow.
26:33
Speaker 3: I'll talk to you tonight.
26:35
Speaker 2: Nothing was wrong, Plans were in place to talk the
26:39
Speaker 2: next day after a very like an hour long conversation
26:44
Speaker 2: she had with her parents about what was going on,
26:47
Speaker 2: no indication of any concern, nothing.
26:51
Speaker 9: Which promotes the fact Nancy that she was planning on
26:54
Speaker 9: talking to her parents again the next day. The only
26:57
Speaker 9: question I have about that conversation is the length of
27:01
Speaker 9: the conversation that it was. Was there any difference in
27:04
Speaker 9: the length of the conversation than what she would have
27:06
Speaker 9: typically had with her parents. That's my only question, But
27:10
Speaker 9: certainly it's indicative of the fact that she was planning
27:13
Speaker 9: to speak to her parents again the next day.
27:16
Speaker 2: You know what, it reminds me of doctor Angie, the
27:19
Speaker 2: case of Ellen Greenberg who was staund twenty two times.
27:23
Speaker 2: I believe it was in the back and the back
27:25
Speaker 2: of the head and the neck, and it was real
27:27
Speaker 2: to suicide. She was right in the middle. There had
27:29
Speaker 2: been a blizzard that day. She's a school teacher, and
27:33
Speaker 2: she had come home early, and then she spent all
27:36
Speaker 2: this time calling each and every student's family to make
27:38
Speaker 2: sure the children got home. Then she started making lunch,
27:42
Speaker 2: a giant fresh fruit salad, and then, according to the police,
27:48
Speaker 2: she just decided somewhere between the strawberries and the blueberries,
27:52
Speaker 2: oh screw this, I'm gonna kill myself, and killed herself.
27:56
Speaker 9: And sat myself in the back of my head.
27:58
Speaker 2: I mean, when you help me out here, Angie, you're
28:02
Speaker 2: the MD.
28:02
Speaker 3: I'm just a JD. What do you mean?
28:04
Speaker 2: What does that tell you when someone has future plans that?
28:08
Speaker 2: I mean, why do you just put down the knife
28:11
Speaker 2: in the middle of preparing lunch and go I'm just
28:16
Speaker 2: going to end it all right now, forget lunch, everybody,
28:20
Speaker 2: It's off.
28:20
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
28:21
Speaker 9: Nancy one of the things that also tells you is
28:24
Speaker 9: I mean, you would almost wonder if someone had a
28:27
Speaker 9: psychotic break at that point. But these things don't lend
28:31
Speaker 9: themselves to a psychotic break.
28:34
Speaker 2: Okay, say, now you're talking, Trent, talk that nobody understands
28:37
Speaker 2: but you, and that's not helpful.
28:40
Speaker 3: What are you saying, interpret.
28:42
Speaker 9: Well, a psychotic break is when you lose touch with reality.
28:46
Speaker 3: In the middle of slicing strawberries, in.
28:48
Speaker 9: The middle of making your strawberries, in the middle of
28:51
Speaker 9: walking down the Golden Gate bridge, and then all of
28:54
Speaker 9: a sudden, you have this thought that overcomes you. And
28:58
Speaker 9: Nancy van is topically not how suicide presents itself. People
29:04
Speaker 9: typically think about suicide it's a way out for them.
29:09
Speaker 2: Nobody heard us splash, exactly nobody. You don't think someone
29:14
Speaker 2: would have seen her jump off the bridge and go
29:16
Speaker 2: U nine one one Hello. Well, of course someone would
29:20
Speaker 2: have at least called nine one one. And I know
29:23
Speaker 2: the fog can obscure a lot, but when you're right
29:26
Speaker 2: behind somebody walking and they start trying to get off
29:29
Speaker 2: the bridge, that you either run into them or you
29:33
Speaker 2: see something. There was no indication at all that she
29:37
Speaker 2: committed suicide or struggled and was thrown off nothing.
29:41
Speaker 9: And Nancy, that would have stunned someone. If they would
29:44
Speaker 9: have heard a splash in the water, it would have
29:46
Speaker 9: been something different.
29:46
Speaker 3: Okay, can I tell you the true story.
29:48
Speaker 2: My husband was visiting it, coming to visit me in
29:52
Speaker 2: New York, and of course from La Guardia the airport,
29:56
Speaker 2: you go over a lot of bridges. He actually saw
29:59
Speaker 2: somebody jump off a bridge and he immediately called nine
30:02
Speaker 2: one one and then later followed up to make sure
30:05
Speaker 2: that they got there. And it was a split moment
30:07
Speaker 2: that he saw someone jump, and sure enough they did
30:11
Speaker 2: and they got the guy and he did not die,
30:14
Speaker 2: by the way, So it's very hard for me to
30:17
Speaker 2: believe and jump in Wendy Patrick, Bryan Fitzgibbons, Augie Coughlin
30:21
Speaker 2: that no one would have called if they saw a
30:23
Speaker 2: skirmish and she was thrown off, fell off, or jumped off.
30:27
Speaker 3: I don't believe it.
30:28
Speaker 7: It's especially true, Nancy, this is Wendy because of the
30:30
Speaker 7: time of day. I mean, it couldn't have been a
30:32
Speaker 7: more crowded time of the day. You know, the early
30:34
Speaker 7: morning is when you get the joggers, the runners, the tourists.
30:37
Speaker 7: I mean, you there would have been so many people
30:39
Speaker 7: on that bridge that there would have definitely been somebody
30:42
Speaker 7: that saw something. I love Jackie's out of the box
30:45
Speaker 7: idea that you turned around and came back. And you know,
30:48
Speaker 7: the only thing that would explain that would be some
30:50
Speaker 7: kind of a phone call saying you know, you've got
30:52
Speaker 7: to come back, there's an emergency. But the family might
30:54
Speaker 7: have known about that too, so it just would be
30:56
Speaker 7: another area of exploration.
30:59
Speaker 2: They were getting nothing thing on the phone logs either,
31:02
Speaker 2: good point, Wendy Patrick and something else. You just said,
31:05
Speaker 2: who's on the bridge at that time of the day.
31:06
Speaker 3: Listen. I don't know if you have gone through this
31:08
Speaker 3: as a prosecutor.
31:10
Speaker 2: But if I'm looking, let's just say I'm prosecuting case
31:13
Speaker 2: and I need a dope addict or a dope dealer
31:17
Speaker 2: or a ne'er do well.
31:19
Speaker 3: I know that they're going to sleep till three o'clock.
31:23
Speaker 2: Now, if I want to rouse them up out of bed,
31:26
Speaker 2: it's just not a bad thing, because you know where
31:28
Speaker 2: they are.
31:29
Speaker 3: I can do that.
31:30
Speaker 2: But if I want to talk to them and get
31:31
Speaker 2: any coherent story out of them, I wait till they
31:35
Speaker 2: wake up there. Like vampires, these party all night, sleep
31:38
Speaker 2: all day. But if you're out on the bridge at
31:40
Speaker 2: that time, you have a job and you're working out
31:44
Speaker 2: early in the morning, you're a fitness fanatic and you
31:48
Speaker 2: want to work out the minute you wake up, or
31:50
Speaker 2: you're a tourist and you're there to see the sites.
31:53
Speaker 2: Your eyes are wide open seeing everything. That's who would
31:57
Speaker 2: have been on that bridge, Wendy Patrick at that time
31:59
Speaker 2: of the day.
32:00
Speaker 7: That's right, you're fresh and your perspective is sharp. These
32:03
Speaker 7: people are situationally aware. It's the beginning of the data.
32:06
Speaker 7: Probably well caffeinated, carbo loaded and ready to go. That's
32:10
Speaker 7: like the ideal witness pool if you're going to start
32:13
Speaker 7: looking for somebody that saw or heard something. That's why,
32:16
Speaker 7: at the very least, those cameras would have given us
32:18
Speaker 7: a large pool of people to then follow up with
32:21
Speaker 7: if any of them are on their phone or head
32:22
Speaker 7: cell phone cameras.
32:36
Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace.
32:39
Speaker 2: Now we are hearing that the cameras on the bridge
32:42
Speaker 2: are security cameras and won't be released. I think that's
32:45
Speaker 2: totally yes, so are the cameras on a bank or
32:50
Speaker 2: at other places, including national institutions. But in a case
32:55
Speaker 2: like this, a criminal case. It's very easy to redact
32:59
Speaker 2: out of videos that she don't want the public to see.
33:01
Speaker 2: But it's all in plain view. So you're not giving
33:05
Speaker 2: us any video that we can't see for ourselves. Guys,
33:09
Speaker 2: I wanted to hear more from the family, and this
33:12
Speaker 2: is very critical because a reward comes about.
33:17
Speaker 4: Hi. We are Kimberly and j West, Sidney West's parents.
33:20
Speaker 4: As many of you know, our daughter went missing. She
33:23
Speaker 4: was last seen on the Golden Gate Bridge.
33:26
Speaker 13: You know that morning that Sydney was on the bridge.
33:28
Speaker 13: There's a lot of people that were near her. I
33:32
Speaker 13: know this because I reviewed the video. So we just
33:36
Speaker 13: we absolutely believe that somebody must know something.
33:40
Speaker 14: And we are desperate to have her daughter back.
33:42
Speaker 4: We are offering a ten thousand dollars reward to anybody
33:45
Speaker 4: who is able to locate him, bring her home to us.
33:50
Speaker 13: Or provide information that debt does the same, and that
33:54
Speaker 13: information should be passed to Scott Dudak, our private investigator
33:57
Speaker 13: in San Francisco.
33:58
Speaker 2: Two things, Number one, I believe that rewards loosen lips.
34:03
Speaker 3: I really do.
34:04
Speaker 2: I think people will talk for the money. And second,
34:08
Speaker 2: did you hear the parents say get in touch with
34:12
Speaker 2: our private investigator Scott Dodek. They don't say call San
34:17
Speaker 2: Francisco PD. They say get in touch with OURPI. Why
34:23
Speaker 2: is that, Audrey Conklin, Why not give out the police number?
34:27
Speaker 8: Because the police, when they initially reported Sidney's disappearance said
34:34
Speaker 8: something along the line, well, said something that the parents
34:38
Speaker 8: rubbed the parents the wrong way, And so their private
34:40
Speaker 8: investigator thinks that the police have kind of given up
34:43
Speaker 8: on the situation in Sydney's disappearance, which is why he
34:47
Speaker 8: has taken the lead. And he's also baffled by the
34:51
Speaker 8: video footage and really wants to look into it and
34:54
Speaker 8: talk to people who may have seen her that day.
34:56
Speaker 2: You know what, I guarantee you this is what happened,
34:58
Speaker 2: Doctor Angela Arnold.
35:00
Speaker 3: She's just off with her boyfriend. She'll turn back up.
35:03
Speaker 3: She just left.
35:03
Speaker 2: She don't want to be found. She's your own lady.
35:06
Speaker 2: I've heard that so many times. She's a teen, she's nineteen.
35:10
Speaker 2: That's total bs. But that's the attitude of a lot
35:13
Speaker 2: of law enforcement. And I don't like it, and I
35:15
Speaker 2: am law enforcement, but that's wrong.
35:17
Speaker 9: Well, it's just so lazy, and it's so dismissive. And
35:21
Speaker 9: when are people going to stop being dismissive of people
35:24
Speaker 9: who are in trouble. The police do not need to
35:27
Speaker 9: be dismissive of people that are in trouble.
35:30
Speaker 2: I e.
35:30
Speaker 9: Let's stop forget about Gabby Petito.
35:32
Speaker 2: That's right, let's not forget about Gabby Petito. You're absolutely correct.
35:37
Speaker 2: You know another irony here. Let me throw this back
35:40
Speaker 2: to you, Brian Fitzgibbons. She went missing on the Golden
35:43
Speaker 2: Gate Bridge. What else does she have to do? Climb
35:45
Speaker 2: on top of the Statue of Liberty and go missing?
35:48
Speaker 2: What about the Where else could she go missing? That
35:52
Speaker 2: would be more identifiable and more public, But we don't
35:56
Speaker 2: have a clue.
35:58
Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense to.
35:59
Speaker 10: Me exactly, and it lends credibility to what you and
36:04
Speaker 10: one of the other experts on here was referring to
36:07
Speaker 10: earlier that there has to be a footage on either
36:12
Speaker 10: side of these of the bridge that has been reviewed,
36:15
Speaker 10: witnesses that needed to be talked to on either side
36:18
Speaker 10: of the bridge. If you get across that Sauce Alito side,
36:21
Speaker 10: let's say she's going through a run. There are a
36:24
Speaker 10: number of trails and parks and the marine headlands right
36:27
Speaker 10: across on the opposite side of the bridge, the Sauce
36:30
Speaker 10: Alito side. So you know, I'll add one thing, Nancy
36:35
Speaker 10: that anybody who's been on the Golden Gate Bridge, it's
36:39
Speaker 10: not exactly easy to climb and jump off of it.
36:45
Speaker 2: Oh no, you're right, it's very secure, very difficult to
36:49
Speaker 2: do that.
36:50
Speaker 10: So that needs to be said because it sounds like
36:53
Speaker 10: the San Francisco police have dismissed this as potentially a
36:57
Speaker 10: suicide or a runaway. Certainly they've helped or not releasing
37:02
Speaker 10: the videos helped plame public perception.
37:04
Speaker 2: I mean, you would have to be with starting to
37:08
Speaker 2: slight to climb up the side of that bridge to jump.
37:12
Speaker 2: They have it so secured with those very very thick
37:15
Speaker 2: steel ropes. Guys, it helps to figure out who is
37:20
Speaker 2: the victim. Take listen to our friends at.
37:23
Speaker 3: K r N.
37:24
Speaker 15: Well, obviously right now we're all, you know, very worried
37:27
Speaker 15: and concerned about Sidney West and what we know of
37:31
Speaker 15: right now. She played here her sophomore, freshman and sophomore year.
37:36
Speaker 15: Sidney was an athlete here at foot Of High School,
37:38
Speaker 15: and she moved after her sophomore year to go to
37:42
Speaker 15: North Carolina. She did come back and visit with us
37:45
Speaker 15: a couple times, but it's been you know, when somebody's
37:49
Speaker 15: played for us and been a part of our program,
37:51
Speaker 15: they're a part of our extended family. And now we're
37:53
Speaker 15: all just incredibly worried knowing that she is missing and
37:57
Speaker 15: we don't know where she's at.
37:58
Speaker 3: This is a.
37:59
Speaker 2: Girl that was scrub in Sunshine, beautiful girl, her life
38:05
Speaker 2: in front of her. Where is Sydney. If you know
38:09
Speaker 2: or think you know anything about her disappearance, please call
38:13
Speaker 2: the tip line nine two five seven zero four eight
38:17
Speaker 2: three two eight repeat nine two five seven zero five
38:23
Speaker 2: eight three two eight.
38:26
Speaker 3: Goodbye friend.