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The Ron Verb Show - Full Broadcast from Wednesday, 08/05/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: And from NewsRadio 570 WKBN, well, hello there, boys and girls.
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  Speaker 2: And Ron Verb with you on Wednesday, August 5th. What
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  Speaker 2: are we, at 81 degrees? Nice to be with you here.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be sticking around until I solve the world's problems.
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  Speaker 2: That should happen probably the first half hour. But needless
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  Speaker 2: to say, 330-729-9977, 330-729-9977. 9977 will get you through to us.
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  Speaker 2: My top secret number if you want to conversate here
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  Speaker 2: this afternoon, 330-729-9977 on a Wednesday afternoon. Let me see
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  Speaker 2: what awaits me. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 3: Ron, I don't want to see any more rain or thunderstorms.
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  Speaker 3: It has knocked my phone out for five days, and
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  Speaker 3: I can't even. I had to go up and get one.
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  Speaker 3: My friend got me one, but it's been terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I got news for you. I got news for you.
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  Speaker 2: We had some dark skies and some rain in our area.
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  Speaker 2: So if you don't want to see anymore, they're not
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  Speaker 2: listening to you.
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  Speaker 4: They're not.
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  Speaker 3: But, you know, I need a phone. My friend bought
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  Speaker 3: me a cell phone, but they're going to try to
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  Speaker 3: come tomorrow. There was a lot of power outages down here.
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  Speaker 3: But should we worry about the Guardians?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You want the short answer?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: You think you've got the bases loaded and you can't
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  Speaker 3: score runs two times?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, well, you're asking me should we worry about them.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think? Absolutely we should worry about them.
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  Speaker 2: It seems to me to be a trend. We see
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  Speaker 2: them doing excellent usually the first half of the season
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  Speaker 2: until the break. And then in the second half of
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  Speaker 2: the season, something just happens where they lose their mojo.
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  Speaker 2: They just lose their mojo. Well, I'll be– There's cause
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  Speaker 2: for concern. Thank you, Dick from Dayton. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, what do you think about the Guardian?
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  Speaker 5: Wait.
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  Speaker 2: That was Dick from Dayton.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry. Wrong line.
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  Speaker 7: It's the Rockies. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: What do you think about this? I don't know if
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  Speaker 6: he's a BSA member, but he's an Islamist winning the
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  Speaker 6: primary in Michigan. I mean, where did he go? You know,
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  Speaker 6: it was over on Mondami. Where did he go? The
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  Speaker 6: other one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's insane. I think what's what's happening with
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  Speaker 2: I honestly think what's happening with the Democrat Party and
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  Speaker 2: in this, I don't even want to describe the people
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  Speaker 2: that are winning these primaries other than it's deeply disturbing
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  Speaker 2: to me. I mean, it's deeply disturbing to me the
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  Speaker 2: caliber and quality of the people that you're seeing here.
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  Speaker 2: It's deeply disturbing to me. I think they hate capitalism.
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  Speaker 2: I just, what are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 6: Are your parents Democrats?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: When my parents were Democrats, when the Democrat Party was
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  Speaker 2: the party of working people and it wasn't the party
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  Speaker 2: it is today. As I say to people, the Democrat
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  Speaker 2: Party has changed tremendously. They wouldn't be. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: they'd be Democrats today. And the Republican Party has changed.
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  Speaker 2: The Republican Party always used to be the party of
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  Speaker 2: the elites and the business people and not so much
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  Speaker 2: the working person. Well, now I think these parties have switched.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you? I think the Republican Party now is viewed
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  Speaker 2: as a party of America first and the productive people
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  Speaker 2: of society. And a Democrat Party is a party of
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  Speaker 2: the oddballs and weirdos and freeloaders.
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  Speaker 6: When I was a little kid, John F. Kennedy, middle school,
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  Speaker 6: my teacher said, social studies... If this Ronald Reagan, who
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  Speaker 6: before was elected, if this Ronald Reagan gets in, we're
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  Speaker 6: going to have World War III, right? And, A, we've
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  Speaker 6: heard that a bunch of times since then, you know,
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  Speaker 6: whether it was Bush, who I don't care for either
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  Speaker 6: of them. But you heard the same thing with Trump.
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  Speaker 6: He's going to start World War III. Okay, well, it
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  Speaker 6: hasn't happened yet. It was, I don't know, 1980 when
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  Speaker 6: the teacher said, you've got to tell your parents.
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: You left the tree from hell. I'm not telling them anything.
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  Speaker 6: You're right, we've changed. And I really... and it was
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  Speaker 6: hoping and now it's more praying that more Democrats see
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  Speaker 6: this isn't what it was. This isn't Daniel Patrick Moynihan.
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  Speaker 6: This isn't all the people that you supported all this
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  Speaker 6: time that supported you. Now, guess what? If you're white,
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  Speaker 6: If you ain't an Islamist, if you ain't an illegal,
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  Speaker 6: they don't like you.
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  Speaker 2: And they'll tell you.
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  Speaker 6: The beauty is, the beauty is, they'll say it all
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  Speaker 6: day long. I want to abolish ICE. I want to
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  Speaker 6: abolish prisons. I want to abolish the Senate. I want
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  Speaker 6: to abolish. And people who they say, no, he's just
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  Speaker 6: a moderate, Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania. Well, anybody, get your
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  Speaker 6: Google machine out and look up him just saying in
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  Speaker 6: the last two weeks, Yeah, you've got to think about
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  Speaker 6: these things. These things are on the table. Expanding the court,
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  Speaker 6: getting rid of the electoral college. This is your regulation Democrat.
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  Speaker 7: At least that's what.
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  Speaker 6: They purport to be.
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  Speaker 7: But they have to go, even.
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  Speaker 6: If they were just a regular guy, they have to
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  Speaker 6: bend over backwards and go with the leftists. And our
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  Speaker 6: country isn't built for that. It's not going to work.
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  Speaker 5: And... Wow.
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  Speaker 6: I am a little concerned for our country.
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  Speaker 2: I think you should be concerned for your country. I
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  Speaker 2: think there's plenty to be concerned about. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I look at all of these races that are going on,
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  Speaker 2: and I am shocked as an older American. I can't
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  Speaker 2: believe what I'm seeing. I can't believe... What do they
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  Speaker 2: call them, Democrats, socialists? I just can't believe people are
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  Speaker 2: buying into that or electing people that say some of
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  Speaker 2: the things that they say about our holidays. And I
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  Speaker 2: agree with you. It seems like they're just a pack
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  Speaker 2: of damn weirdos.
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  Speaker 6: People openly saying we deserve 9-11. Yeah. It's not going
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  Speaker 6: to work like that. And these little enclaves, and they're
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  Speaker 6: getting bigger and bigger. Look, 40 years ago in Michigan,
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  Speaker 6: would you ever think there'd be a bunch of mosques
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  Speaker 6: that called to prayer at.
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  Speaker 9: 5 a.m.? No.
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  Speaker 10: Nope.
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  Speaker 6: Now, they're the majority in Pamtramic. They're the majority in Dearborn.
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  Speaker 6: They're telling you.
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  Speaker 5: Get out.
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  Speaker 6: You're not welcome here.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 6: I can't believe it. This can't go on in our country.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I.
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  Speaker 6: Love Rand Paul most of the time. All I'm saying is, guys,
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  Speaker 6: can we look at this? Because we can't let the
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  Speaker 6: Constitution let America be over. Because guess what? If these
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  Speaker 6: Islamists get in everywhere, it will be over. And they're
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  Speaker 6: not fighting fair. They're not, you know, following the rules.
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  Speaker 6: Just look at Ilhan Omar and the other ones. It's
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  Speaker 6: a bad time. And, wow, after waking up this morning
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  Speaker 6: and hearing the election results, and it's not a Congress seat.
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  Speaker 6: It's a Senate seat, right? There's only 100 of them.
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  Speaker 6: And if you have one who's a radical Islamist, That
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  Speaker 6: doesn't bode well for the future of our country.
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  Speaker 2: I just find it very strange. Actually, I'm glad that
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  Speaker 2: you brought it up. I find the comments about September
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  Speaker 2: 11th or the negative comments that they make about this
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  Speaker 2: great country of ours, I mean, is it perfect?
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 2: But the things that they're saying and their economic philosophies,
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  Speaker 2: I find deeply disturbing, and yet they win. And I
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  Speaker 2: sit back and say, okay... What's going on here? And
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  Speaker 2: why would you vote for that? Why would you think
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  Speaker 2: that that is the answer? And I'm not into the
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  Speaker 2: Trump name-calling of these people. I'm into saying, why are
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  Speaker 2: people voting for him? We better try to understand what
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  Speaker 2: motivates people to vote for him. And I think part
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  Speaker 2: of that is the economy is leaving a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people behind, whether you're low class or middle class or
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  Speaker 2: wherever you might fall, because of the cost of everything
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  Speaker 2: and inflation. I think we better address those problems, because
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  Speaker 2: I said it before, I'll say it to you again,
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  Speaker 2: hungry bellies are... revolution start on hungry bellies. That's what happens.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many dumb things that we do. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'll say it to you, and I know you and
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  Speaker 2: I differ about the situation in Iran, but we sit
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  Speaker 2: here and we think, well, they should think like we do. Well,
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  Speaker 2: they do not. They weren't raised like you. They don't
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  Speaker 2: think like you. They don't have the same religion as you.
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  Speaker 2: They don't have the same beliefs as you. And that's
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  Speaker 2: the reality. You're viewing them from your perspective. Well, they
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  Speaker 2: don't care much for you. I mean, they kind of
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  Speaker 2: hate you. And this idea that these people are going
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  Speaker 2: to revolt and side with America. Well, they probably aren't.
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  Speaker 2: If you are in Iran and that's your country and
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  Speaker 2: some other countries bombing the hell out of your home
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  Speaker 2: and your neighborhood and that kind of stuff, you're probably
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  Speaker 2: not going to be too supportive of that country. You're
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  Speaker 2: probably going to side more with your countrymen because you
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  Speaker 2: because you're under attack. Just human nature.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 6: And we've got to try to get the people who
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  Speaker 6: were regular Democrats, their parents or grandparents were regular Democrats,
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  Speaker 6: to see, hey, this is a pathway to freedom, and
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  Speaker 6: this is a pathway to, and it doesn't even have
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  Speaker 6: to be Islamist dictatorship, but dictatorship. Look what the sheeple
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  Speaker 6: did under the China virus. Lock it down. Close your schools.
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  Speaker 6: Can't go to church. You know what? We can't. We
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  Speaker 6: had a lesson right there just a couple years ago
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  Speaker 6: that this isn't the way to go. And we're seeing,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's a long way to November.
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  Speaker 6: This is just the primaries, blah, blah, blah. And hopefully
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  Speaker 6: common sense will prevail. But we've got to do the
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  Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk thing. I think you're right. and talk to
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  Speaker 6: the people and understand why the hell are you thinking
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  Speaker 6: this craziness. I know you keep saying, well, it was
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  Speaker 6: never tried like this before. Communism, socialism was never tried
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  Speaker 6: like this before.
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  Speaker 11: Guess what?
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  Speaker 6: It's never worked. It's not going to work. And it
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  Speaker 6: always ends with the point of a gun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I sit back here and I get the
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  Speaker 2: frustration because I look at our local political leaders and
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  Speaker 2: I think they're making the problem worse. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: they're making it better. I think they're making everything worse.
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  Speaker 2: And I sincerely think they're out of touch and they
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  Speaker 2: don't understand the damage that they're doing. So that's, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I just look at, I look at what's going on,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not optimistic.
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  Speaker 6: And, right, I know he's the guy. I know he's your,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, whatever, but, and it says, let not
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  Speaker 6: your heart be troubled.
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  Speaker 5: It's supposed to be.
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  Speaker 6: But we have to do like, what's that lady's name, Denise?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Get out there and fight. You've got to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Fight for what you want. There's a woman that's devoting
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  Speaker 2: so much of her free time. You make a lot
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  Speaker 2: of noise here. She's devoting so much of her free
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  Speaker 2: time to go out and gather signatures to say, listen,
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  Speaker 2: all I want is to put a constitutional amendment on
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  Speaker 2: the ballot for you to vote to eliminate property taxes.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm here to say to all of you, I
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  Speaker 2: hope she's successful and I hope it passes. Because if
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't, they will price all of you out of
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  Speaker 2: your house. Every single one of you will be priced
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  Speaker 2: out of your house. You just don't get it yet
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: because it continues to happen. And it's not just going
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  Speaker 2: to be the elderly and we'll all be elderly one day. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I already am. But you'll be elderly one day and
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  Speaker 2: you will see. You will see the monster that you created.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I am not put on this earth.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not here. Don't make your problems my problems. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not here to pay for or to solve all of
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  Speaker 2: your problems. Some of them you got to own. There's
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  Speaker 2: individual responsibility. that we should have in this country. We
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  Speaker 2: can't say it's always up to the taxpayer. It's not
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  Speaker 2: my problem if you drop out of high school. It's
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  Speaker 2: not my problem if you decide to get hooked on drugs.
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  Speaker 2: It's not my problem if you decide to have five
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  Speaker 2: kids out of wedlock. These are decisions you made. And
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  Speaker 2: you've got to suffer the consequences or deal with the
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  Speaker 2: consequences of those, not me. I mean, and we've got
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  Speaker 2: a society of people who think that should be everybody
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  Speaker 2: else's bill to help all these people or pay for
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  Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. There are consequences to the decisions
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  Speaker 2: you make. You increase your odds of having a heart
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  Speaker 2: attack and lung cancer. That's a reality. If you smoke marijuana, yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's legal. There's also consequences to that because in the
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  Speaker 2: whole scope of things, it's really not a healthy thing
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  Speaker 2: to do. Just some stuff. Thank you, Jake. Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate the call. It's a lot to think about. But
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  Speaker 2: it's why I spend so much time on it. And
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  Speaker 2: it's just... As I say, so much just is disturbing
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  Speaker 2: to me. I mean, it's disturbing to me that you
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  Speaker 2: have like a library system that totally is ignoring the
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  Speaker 2: citizens of Poland. The taxpayers, the people that live with
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  Speaker 2: the library, the people that like that facility, and they're
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  Speaker 2: just totally, well, pay your taxes, sit down, shut up,
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  Speaker 2: we'll tell you what we're going to do. It's that
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  Speaker 2: arrogance that annoys me. And I said, arrogance had come
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  Speaker 2: from the county commissioners. We're going to do this project,
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  Speaker 2: the Eastern Gateway project. And you didn't have a say
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  Speaker 2: so on it, but you'll get stuck with the bonds.
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  Speaker 2: Long after these people are out of office and somebody
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  Speaker 2: else is in office, you get stuck with that decision.
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  Speaker 2: You get stuck with the bonds in that lousy location,
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  Speaker 2: lousy idea. But you get the bill for it. So
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how much more they expect any of
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  Speaker 2: you to be able, how much more money they can
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  Speaker 2: take from you. I was just telling Joe Kovach earlier today,
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  Speaker 2: I got my highest electric bill I can ever recall
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  Speaker 2: in my life. Just got my electric bill. It was $ 300.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's just where electric is for, I'm thinking, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's obvious because it was hot. And yes, contrary to
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  Speaker 2: John Kerry and the people in France, we ran our
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: air conditioning at 72. And I do have vent fans
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  Speaker 2: in the attic that, you know, draw the hot air out.
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  Speaker 2: There's a couple of those that are running pretty heavily
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  Speaker 2: during that time. But $ 300 on something that last year
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  Speaker 2: was $ 150. I'll be right back.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Rowe here with a random and talk station, 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: Back to it. Ron Verb, and you're on air. Hey, Ronald.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 12: You answered your own question on what the problem is.
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  Speaker 12: The party that people have to work in is the
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  Speaker 12: reason they don't want the Republican Party. And they would
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  Speaker 12: vote for a chair if that's running for office. They
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  Speaker 12: sit in school every day and listen to how bad
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  Speaker 12: America is. You should be getting this. You should be
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  Speaker 12: getting that. And then there's programs that they can get that,
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  Speaker 12: can get that. They don't care what's happening there. They're
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  Speaker 12: not going to vote any other way. But we have
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  Speaker 12: only so many people to sway off that fence in
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  Speaker 12: these elections. It's as simple as that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's many people that are disappointed in the Republican
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  Speaker 2: Party that are Republicans, saying, okay, where is the America?
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  Speaker 3: I agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: Where is the America first? I mean, there's plenty of
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  Speaker 2: Republicans that we should have safe and secure elections. They're
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  Speaker 2: not doing enough there to get that passed.
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  Speaker 13: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: They're not getting enough people out of this country that
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  Speaker 2: came here illegally. It seems like that's been derailed to
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  Speaker 2: a large extent. There's this whole war in Iran situation
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  Speaker 2: is just a mess. And the country or the constituents
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  Speaker 2: of the country were never really had a say so
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  Speaker 2: on this at all. And it just continues on. And
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  Speaker 2: we see gas now today in my neck of the
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  Speaker 2: woods now at 411 a gallon. And as we continue
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  Speaker 2: to run out of oil, a serious situation. So many
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  Speaker 2: people are saying the Republican Party doesn't do a good
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  Speaker 2: job representing them, nor the Democratic Party. And they're very discouraged.
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  Speaker 2: And justly so. Well, your country is $ 40- plus trillion in
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  Speaker 2: debt and growing.
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  Speaker 12: And so when they start promising even crazy things, that's
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  Speaker 12: what they're going to lean to. Because they're upset. Hey, look,
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  Speaker 12: if you're a kid, you're working 20 hours a week,
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  Speaker 12: how in the heck are you driving a car with
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  Speaker 12: this gas price?
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  Speaker 5: Exactly. Exactly.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly.
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  Speaker 12: It's there. So people that have a lot of money
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  Speaker 12: that pretend it's not there, it's there for people, and
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  Speaker 12: it's a serious thing for these people.
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  Speaker 2: I think inflation and the price of everything is a
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  Speaker 2: serious thing for everybody, and it needs to be addressed.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why people are saying, I'm working hard, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm not making it. There's got to be a different
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  Speaker 2: way or a better way, because this way isn't going
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  Speaker 2: to cut it. And that's why they probably vote that way.
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  Speaker 12: And that's why your electric bill was high. Mine's crazy,
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  Speaker 12: and I live like an Amish person. I couldn't turn
• 18:32
  Speaker 12: off more stuff than I turn off, and it's still crazy.
• 18:35
  Speaker 12: So think about some young guy trying to make it work.
• 18:39
  Speaker 12: He's got that. He's got gasoline prices. He's got gas prices.
• 18:43
  Speaker 12: He's got food prices.
• 18:45
  Speaker 14: So what are you going to do?
• 18:46
  Speaker 12: You get on the system.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: It's easier.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Probably so.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Probably so.
• 18:52
  Speaker 12: And that's a bad thing, but that is what's ruling
• 18:55
  Speaker 12: these elect... I mean, they don't care who's running.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: They really don't.
• 18:59
  Speaker 12: Hey, what are you promising me? Free school, free..
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: Yep, that's it. Right.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Hey, forgive your student loan debt, like Biden said.
• 19:06
  Speaker 12: Yeah, but you see how many people bought that? Where's
• 19:10
  Speaker 12: it coming from?
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: They don't care.
• 19:11
  Speaker 12: They don't... And they're in college, and they haven't looked
• 19:14
  Speaker 12: up the socialism. It has never worked. That doesn't matter.
• 19:18
  Speaker 12: Somehow it's going to work now.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 19:22
  Speaker 12: It's a house of cards, and it's going to fall.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, listen.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: But you better fix the current system because the gap
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: is getting too wide. You better fix what's going on.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: And you're going to have to do something about inflation
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: and affordability. These are real problems.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: And if you don't.
• 19:43
  Speaker 12: Want an ID at a voting booth, you want to cheat.
• 19:47
  Speaker 12: There is no other possible way. way that that's a problem.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to sound like I'm
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: bragging because I probably but you know what I did?
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I flew on a jet airplane. That's right. I was
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: on a jet airplane. I know you probably have never
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: experienced something like that.
• 20:03
  Speaker 12: I've seen them in the sky, though.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, I was actually a passenger on a jet airplane.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: And when I went through this boarding process, I had
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to show them my driver's license. I had to show
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: them my ID to even get on this jet airplane.
• 20:18
  Speaker 12: You were disenchanted for flying again then, weren't you?
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: No, I said, this is racist. That's what I said
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: to the guy. This is absolutely racist, and I shouldn't
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: have to show you an ID. And the guy said,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: you stand over there. We're going to pat your ass down.
• 20:32
  Speaker 12: Did you know I got in trouble for saying, they're
• 20:38
  Speaker 12: patting down this lady who's like 75 years old. And
• 20:41
  Speaker 12: I go, I think I could kind of guess who
• 20:43
  Speaker 12: you might want to pat down. And boy, did that
• 20:47
  Speaker 12: cost me.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: They came over to me like I was getting ready
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: to get thrown in the clink.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I probably would have done a cavity
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: search if it was necessary on a character like you.
• 21:03
  Speaker 12: Believe me, I've had.
• 21:04
  Speaker 15: Some issues where they didn't trust me.
• 21:06
  Speaker 12: With a good tan and gel back hair.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: There you go. All right, Tiger. Have a good day.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: News Radio 570. But you got to figure out what's
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: going on, why so many people are voting this way.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: You can't ignore it. The problem with Trump is he
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: just name calls these people. They're this, they're that and everything. No,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: we better figure out. Too many people are working too
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: hard and they're being left behind because of this inflation.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: You're working hard. You can't afford a house. You can't
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: afford a new vehicle. You're having a tough time making it.
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  Speaker 16: County woman has died following a collision with a commercial
• 21:47
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• 21:52
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• 22:01
  Speaker 16: A man is dead in Montgomery County following a shooting
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• 22:10
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• 22:14
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  Speaker 4: Now, Ron Verb. On NewsRadio 570, WKBN.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Back to it. News Radio 570 WKBN 334 here in
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: the afternoon on a Wednesday, August 5th. Not that far
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: into Canfield Fairby here. Something to look forward to in August.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: The Canfield Fair. Here's my hope. I'm hoping that it's
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: not going to be like really hot when it's fair time.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping it'll be comfortable weather. Do you remember the
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: year that the fair was on and it was like
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: really hot and humid, 90-degree days during Canfield Fair, and
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: they had low attendance because no one wanted to go
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: out there? There's certainly not the volume of people wanting
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: to go out there when it was that hot and
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: that humid and walk on the pavement, that kind of stuff.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I can't recall what year that was, but I know
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: it happened one of these years. They all blend together anymore.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: But I'm hoping for more comfortable weather again this year
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: so that you can go out and enjoy the fair.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: So fair time is not that far away. Then once
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: the fair is done, then you really notice how the
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: days are getting shorter. Then you boom. When the fair
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: is over, it seems like there's a switch and kids
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: are back in school. The days get shorter and it's
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: just it's depressing. It's what it is. All right. You're
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: on the air.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: Hello.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Hello?
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Ron. So, do you remember back when they started
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: a petition for property taxes?
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: And our commissioners were all up in arms.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: They had no idea what to do. What are we
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: going to do?
• 24:27
  Speaker 15: What are we going to do?
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: These people don't want to think outside the box. They
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: want to collect a paycheck and don't do anything to
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: help the people of this community.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: None of them.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: So what I think we should do as the middle class, because,
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: of course, the lower class don't work and the upper
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: class got.
• 24:50
  Speaker 15: More money than they know what to do with.
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: The middle class is the one who suffers the most, correct?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I like your analysis. Yeah. I think everyone's suffering now
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: except your high income. I think most people are suffering.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: But go ahead.
• 25:05
  Speaker 18: All right.
• 25:06
  Speaker 11: But correct.
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: So, and all our money is going everywhere. The fraud, geez,
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: what else? You know, the way our money is being
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: distributed to taxpayers is totally gross and unjust, for the
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: most part.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: How much of it is wasted?
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: Well, true, the waste, the fraud, the Medicare fraud, the
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: daycare fraud.
• 25:34
  Speaker 13: Yep.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: Everything.
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: You know, it's totally ridiculous. So as taxpayers, the middle
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: class ought to all band together and say.
• 25:46
  Speaker 13: Screw you.
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: We're going to go tax exempt and not pay any taxes.
• 25:52
  Speaker 13: What are we going to do?
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: Turn the whole middle class in jail?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: But it'll never happen because we're too afraid to do that.
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: Well, that's the other problem. People don't have, how I say, the...
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: What's the proper word for the radio?
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Balls?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: They don't have the balls?
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: There you go.
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: I just didn't want to say it'd get in any trouble.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: That's all right. I covered it for you. I covered
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: it for you. But listen, let me back up a bit.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I know I've got to pay taxes, and you do too.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I know I need a guy to plow my roads
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: when it's wintertime and salt them. I know I need
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: a cop if I got to make a call to
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the police or a fireman or an ambulance. I know
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I need services that government has. I know we got
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: to have a county jail to put the bums in
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: that the cops arrest in a court system and all
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. So I know what my needs
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: are as far as my community is concerned. So I'm
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: not opposed to funding that and paying for that kind
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: of stuff. It's just all this other crap that they
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: expect me to pay for that's either on my property
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: taxes or they spend my money on. It's all this
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: other stuff. They want to make everybody else's problems my problems.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: And it's the library system and how... How much money
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: is being just spent foolishly by them and the arrogance
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: of the library system and not fixing the building for
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: the people of Poland Township. And there's a shining example
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: of what I think are wasted tax dollars. All these
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: people that were hired that are not necessary, that are
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: paper pushers, basically.
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: Well, absolutely. And I'm agreeing with you 100 percent. We
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: need our fire. We need our police. You know, but
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: of course, if it's up to New York and the
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: Democrats up in Michigan, they'll go away with the police.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Don't they?
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. If it's up to the Democrats, yes.
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: Unfortunately, it's true.
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: And the way that our country.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Is going, what do you do?
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: The way they..
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: Why do we have to keep sending all this money
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: to all these other countries?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I'm totally opposed to it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: It is unnecessary.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: You know, for years, for years, we were the police
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: of the world.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: Somebody needed help. We, you know, taxpayers paid for it
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: because our military would go in and take care of business. Well,
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: and of course, Donald Trump, you know, and I voted
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: for Trump every time, you know, but he's pissing me
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: off really.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Bad right now.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Me too.
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: You know, a lot of the stuff he said, he, well,
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: typical policy, you know, everybody says, well, he's not a politician.
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: He's a businessman. Well, yeah. You know, you need a
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: businessman to run the country because politicians can't, you know, um,
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: And the problem is now he's going back on... You know,
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: he's falling into that politician's mind. You know, they tell
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: you what you want to hear, and they all do it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: I don't care who they are. Whether, you know, whether
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: they're a congressman, a senator, it doesn't matter. They all
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: tell you the same thing when they want to get elected.
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: And then once they get elected, they don't give two
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: shits about any of us.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: And they don't.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: You know, and unfortunately, you know... It seems that it
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: doesn't matter who you elect. You know, look at the White.
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: He's all up in arms about these Haitians.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: They're part of the community.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: Well, they shouldn't have been.
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: Here in the first place.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: You know, so you need to go. They all need
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: to go.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: And the problem, as I see, is people are getting
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: fed up. They're getting fed up and they're going to
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: start taking matters into their own hands, I have a feeling.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: You know, to a point.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Because..
• 29:58
  Speaker 15: These politicians, they don't even want to listen to you.
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: When you go to a meeting and say something, they.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Don't want to hear it.
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: Look what's going on with all these AI centers.
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: These people are up in arms.
• 30:07
  Speaker 15: They don't want it. And then people are telling you,
• 30:10
  Speaker 15: too bad.
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: Your voice doesn't count. And when your voice doesn't start counting,
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: we're in a lot of trouble.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm listening to every word you're saying, and I'm
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: agreeing with everything you're saying. I can't add anything other
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: than aye-aye, Captain. Well stated.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Ha!
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: Well, thank you, sir.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: You have a great day.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I think I'm going to vote for that
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: guy right there. You're on the air.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Hello. He's got my vote, too.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Well, see, he's on a roll. I mean, it's just
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I get the frustration. Listen, I'm not a fan of
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: most of these local politicians around here. Most of them
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: certainly don't impress me at all. They don't impress me
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: with their... with their wisdom or their uh... leadership skills
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: i mean dave thomas being exception to that as far
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: as the state rep is concerned i tell you people
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: that have impressed me in politics i'm thoroughly impressed by
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: ron de santis i think he's the best governor on
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: the on the plan i think ron de santis is
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: a terrific governor i would love to see him be
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: president i think he's a very very smart man and
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: i think he would really do a good job running
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: this country if that's possible with all the special interest
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: and the money that corrupts everything. But I think that
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: of DeSantis. I think that Dave Thomas is outstanding. I
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: think John Pleschnik, the commissioner in Lake County, is a
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: shining star. Brian Massey that's leading the charge to get
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: the constitutional amendment on the ballot to repeal property taxes.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Denise that circulates these petitions. There are so many great
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: people that are out there that are doing things that
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I give them credit for, that they're trying to get
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: things accomplished to make things better for you. But the
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: rest of them, I don't sense it.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: Do you? I don't either. They got themselves wrapped up
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: around so much junk that they can't get out of it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: They need to get voted out of there. Get them
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: old heads out of there. And just start pumping people
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: in there. If they don't work, pump, get them out
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: of there again.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but somehow they get elected and they get reelected.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely beyond me to watch this scenario. I mean,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: it's totally beyond me. I talk about George McKelvey a
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: lot because George McKelvey always viewed the people who voted
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: for him as customers. He didn't care whether you agreed
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: or disagreed with him politically. If you're a Republican or Democrat,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: to him, you were a customer. And if you had
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: an issue, he'd do his best to try to fix
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: it for you. I sensed that from Pat Anguero when
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: he was around as well. I sensed he was like that.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: I thought Traffick did a good job as a congressman.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I don't sense anybody that's been in Congress since him
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: has represented you or this community to the degree he's
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: represented it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 13: Do you?
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: You're absolutely right. I had always said that he got ripped.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: They went after him because he wouldn't. following suit with
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: the rest of the Democrats, so they figured out a
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: way to get rid of him, and they let the
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: Republicans do it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I look back and I say, all the stuff
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: that he did, the federal courthouses, the improvements out at
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the airbase, the Covelli Center, the 7-Eleven connector, I mean,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I can tell you everything he was able to accomplish
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: as a man, as a congressman, and yet his name
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: doesn't appear on any of it. It's as though he never..
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: We were without electric. Guests who reached out and snatched
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: a military generating system, got it to Niles, so Niles
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: could have electricity back in certain areas.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Trafficking?
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: That was never talked about. Yeah.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, Trafican was a well-educated person. Trafican was a
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: smart guy, and I thought he did a lot of
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: good for the community. I thought he was the most
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: effective congressman. Tim Ryan was a joke. Michael Rooley is
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Michael Rooley. He's no Jim Trafican is all I can say.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm kind of expecting more from him than
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing at this point.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Rooley and Marino, they're I have called him I don't
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: know how many times. And I've never gotten anything back
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: except that answering service or go to dot, dot, dot, dot, whatever,
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: and put it in. So I tried. I never got
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: anything out of either one of them two jokers.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I will tell you this, though. From a Senate standpoint,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I'm rather enjoying Bernie Marino. I mean, I like him
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: as senator. I must confess that. I do like what
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I see with Bernie Marino. I mean, I like that.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: There's no way in hell I'd ever vote for Sherrod Brown.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, when I see a commercial of Sherrod Brown
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: talking about all this stuff that he wants to do,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I sit there and scream. I said, for God's sakes,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: you were there for 30 years. Why didn't you do
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: it then? I mean, it's ridiculous.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Maybe he realized he screwed up.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I doubt it. I mean, you had all that time.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Your time has passed. You should have done it then.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Now let's let somebody else take over.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: I don't know what to say on that anymore. It's
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: a toss-up. I mean, he's fighting because his son-in-law is
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: doing all this nasty stuff to get him kicked out.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: What did he do with the Epstein stuff?
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: But the Epstein stuff doesn't involve him personally. I don't
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: know where he stands on releasing that, but it doesn't
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: involve him personally. The stuff with his son-in-law is deeply disturbing.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: There's two sides to every story, but it seems deeply disturbing.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: And I look at Bernie Marino as a father who
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: cares a great deal about his daughter. I view it
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: quite differently. I view it as a father that's concerned
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: about his daughter and his granddaughter.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: Well, I understand. Now, we both are, aren't we, about
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: our daughters and our sons?
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, we are. There's nothing more important in your life
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: than your children.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: And your wife, too. I remember her now.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Thanks for covering the basis for me. I appreciate that.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: I get reminded of that every day.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, you know, so... I mean, I wish
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I could sit here. Like I keep saying, I've got
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: to get Pleschnik back on the program. He's a commissioner
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: in Lake County. When this guy comes on and when
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: he's done, you'll just find him so refreshing. His honesty,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: his thought process. You just say, this guy is fantastic.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: And you look at our commissioners and you say, where's
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: that here? Where is that passion? Where is that support
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: for the taxpayer? Where is that? It's non-existent.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: Well, you take away the taxes, how's the state of
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: Ohio going to make it?
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not saying you can't take away all the taxes,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: but you certainly can take a look at all the
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: money that's going in and where it's being spent. I'm
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: sure you can reduce a lot of spending and let
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: you keep a lot of your money. Let's put it
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: that way, whether that's statewide... or even locally.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: I understand that, but when the Haitians got here in Ohio,
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: even our governor and part of the group down at
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Columbus said, Trump is wrong about these people. They were
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: here for a special reason, and we allowed him in.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: temporarily all of a sudden they're eating what our dogs
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: our cats and our ducks i can't believe this.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Nonsense they're eating the dogs.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: He didn't come out say they're eating the rats so
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: i mean hey that would be a positive thing.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: That's uh but uh hey you're here temporarily now you
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: gotta go i mean see you later that's that's all
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: there is to it i mean.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: You talking to me?
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: No, I'm talking to the Haitians. Are you Haitian?
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: No.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Then you can stay.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Oh, thank you very much. I appreciate your support.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Yes. I'll let you stay, old-timer. It's like I anointed
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: myself king all of a sudden. I make all the decisions.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: You look at DeWine. I don't get DeWine. He's been
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: a certainly disappointment as governor, to say the least.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, on some things, but... Some things not. I mean,
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: you can't always be perfect all the time or make
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: every right decision.
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: It's tough.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: It's tough because everything you move or you do is
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: going to be watched. And it's hard. I mean, I
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: can only just imagine being governor. Thank God I was
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: not governor because I'd be jumping all over these people
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: screaming and yelling at them while they're trying to do
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: some work. to get something done for the people here
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: in the state. We're losing jobs left and right.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't think so around here.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: That's all over the whole United States.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Well, are we losing them? to technology? Maybe so. I
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: would agree. Technology has replaced a lot of people and
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: probably will continue to. But, you know, from our standpoint, remember,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: construction jobs are booming around here. They're building that Kimberly
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Clark plant out in Trumbull County. I mean, granted, the
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: battery plant doesn't seem like that's panned out too good, right?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Because the demand isn't there for those vehicles. So you've
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: got a lot of those guys that are just laid off.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you're right about that. But then again, them
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: vehicles don't look so bad anymore when you've got to
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: pay this high price in fuel.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking, too.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: It just amazes me. And then here we're trying to
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: get this wind and solar power going. It makes me
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: laugh because now our electric rates are going up.
• 40:17
  Speaker 15: Why?
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: It's going up.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Stand by. Stand by. I want to talk to you
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: about electric rates and more. Call us in line. Stick around.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: More to come right after this.
• 40:26
  Speaker 10: I heart radio.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: I'm Dr.
• 40:28
  Speaker 10: Cheryl Figliano.
• 40:29
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• 40:32
  Speaker 2: All right, Ron Verb with you. I got something for you.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: I got something for you.
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: Okay, over in Europe there. I think it was in England.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: They built this big, huge grid.
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: Okay?
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: For a little of solar power. And they come across.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: And when they got it done, they were going to
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: flip the switch. Everybody was getting ready for flipping the
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: switch to put it into the grid. And the people
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: on the grid called back and said, you can't do it.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: We aren't structurally made for all that. But you've got
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: a nice power system, but we've got to create a
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: bigger grid so we can accept that power and put
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: it out there. So now, my nephew... The company he
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: works for comes out of England, and they asked him
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: to come over there because they wanted to see how
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: he did the work and how well he could teach
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: people and what they might be able to help him
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: out with. So he got to see a little bit
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: of England there for about two or three weeks, and
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: one of the things he's come out was he was
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: shocked to hear that he could have went to France
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: on one of his weekends by plane for $ 40 to France. Now,
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: ain't that something? I'd like to see you go to
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: the airport out here or up in Cleveland, down in Pittsburgh,
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: put $ 40 down. I want to go to Chicago. They'll
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: laugh you right out of the place.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Well, how could you afford to do so? Jet fuel
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: is so expensive these days. I mean, you can't pay
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: $ 40 to go. If you're paying $ 40, I don't understand that.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: Well, the refineries over there are keeping it up. BP
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: and them, they're all keeping that up. In the United States,
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: we have it, and we don't. And the only way
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: we're going to get it is if we get these
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: people to quit making these big, huge bonuses to build
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: a plant. But they want the federal government to give
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: them the money to build it. And when you take
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: a look at the profits they made in the second quarter, what,
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: $ 20 million more than they made last year? And it
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: just shocks me that when they turn around and say, well,
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: how can you do that and have all that money
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: and yet our gas is so high? They didn't really
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: have a good answer for it, except that's just business.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Well, the war has created this problem. Trump has created
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: this problem because you've got 20 to 30 million barrels
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: a day shortage in the oil markets.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: Only here in the United States by their records. If
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: you can fly from England to France for 40 bucks,
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: that's saying over there they're keeping everything running right.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about that. I'd have to check
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: that out. All right, old-timer, good hearing your voice. You've
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: got a pleasant voice. You've got a pleasant way about you.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: He calms me down. More to come right after the break,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: so you stay tuned. Ron Furb, Kingdom of Mahoning. Hi there,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: this is Dan River.
• 43:29
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• 43:35
  Speaker 20: From ABC News, I'm Michelle Franzen. The Senate voted to
• 43:43
  Speaker 20: confirm Dr. Erica Schwartz as CDC director.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: On this vote, the yeas are 51, the nays are 44.
• 43:49
  Speaker 20: The vote falling mostly on a long party line. Schwartz
• 43:52
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• 43:56
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• 43:59
  Speaker 20: several outbreaks, including measles and cyclosporiasis. And now another foodborne
• 44:03
  Speaker 20: illness has forced changes to the menu at a major
• 44:06
  Speaker 20: fast food chain.
• 44:07
  Speaker 21: First, it was cyclosporiasis linked to lettuce at Taco Bell.
• 44:10
  Speaker 21: Now Chipotle Mexican Grill has removed jalapenos from its restaurants
• 44:14
  Speaker 21: nationwide after a salmonella outbreak in Minnesota sickened more than
• 44:18
  Speaker 21: 100 people. Investigations are going on in other states where
• 44:22
  Speaker 21: the peppers might have been distributed.
• 44:24
  Speaker 10: ABC's Jim Ryan. Tensions between the U.S.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: And Iran remain.
• 44:28
  Speaker 20: President Trump, though, insists a deal to reopen the Strait
• 44:31
  Speaker 20: of Hormuz could come as early as today. Iranian officials
• 44:34
  Speaker 20: say talks with Oman is happening on a joint agreement
• 44:38
  Speaker 20: and in the final stages to oversee the ship traffic.
• 44:41
  Speaker 20: ABC's Elizabeth Schulze has more on the long-term impact for
• 44:44
  Speaker 20: gas companies.
• 44:45
  Speaker 22: At the end of the day, until there is some
• 44:47
  Speaker 22: sort of idea of what that shipping passage looks like,
• 44:49
  Speaker 22: you've still got companies that are reluctant to go through there.
• 44:52
  Speaker 22: They're like, what is it going to be?
• 44:53
  Speaker 10: Am I paying a toll?
• 44:54
  Speaker 22: Am I not?
• 44:55
  Speaker 10: Is it safe?
• 44:56
  Speaker 22: Insurance companies are still reluctant. And they're trying to understand
• 45:00
  Speaker 22: the new reality of the straight after the war, whatever
• 45:03
  Speaker 22: form it looks like, might be very different than it
• 45:05
  Speaker 22: was before the war when ships could just pass through there.
• 45:07
  Speaker 20: ABC News projects progressive Dr. Abdul El-Sayed will win the
• 45:11
  Speaker 20: Democratic Senate race in Michigan against moderate Representative Haley Stevens.
• 45:15
  Speaker 20: The winner takes on GOP Representative Mike Rogers in November's election.
• 45:19
  Speaker 20: Republican Congressman Chuck Edwards of North Carolina withdrawing from his
• 45:23
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• 45:26
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• 45:30
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• 46:53
  Speaker 20: the public, and authorities say multiple people were shot but
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• 47:00
  Speaker 20: with their latest lawsuit, they're taking a stand for drivers
• 47:03
  Speaker 20: behind two-day Amazon deliveries. accusing the online retailer of keeping
• 47:08
  Speaker 20: wages low and conditions poor. ABC's Morgan Norwood explains.
• 47:12
  Speaker 25: Those drivers show up in Amazon vans wearing Amazon vests,
• 47:15
  Speaker 25: carrying boxes with the Amazon logo. But most of them
• 47:19
  Speaker 25: don't actually work for Amazon. They work for small contractors,
• 47:22
  Speaker 25: which the company calls delivery service partners. But the lawsuit
• 47:26
  Speaker 25: claims those partners are entirely dependent on Amazon to survive
• 47:30
  Speaker 25: and claims the company uses that power to control their routes,
• 47:33
  Speaker 25: their hiring, and their pay, while crushing any attempt by
• 47:37
  Speaker 25: workers to unionize.
• 47:39
  Speaker 20: Amazon recently surpassed the postal service to become the largest
• 47:42
  Speaker 20: delivery provider in the country. The lawsuit claims Amazon drivers
• 47:47
  Speaker 20: earn substantially less than those at the U.S. Postal Service, UPS,
• 47:51
  Speaker 20: and FedEx. More than 21 million Americans use marijuana on
• 47:55
  Speaker 20: a daily or near-daily basis. That's a 21 percent increase
• 47:59
  Speaker 20: between 2022 and 2025, according to this year's National Survey
• 48:04
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• 48:06
  Speaker 10: Michelle Franzen, ABC News.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Back to it, NewsRadio 570 WKBN, 4.07 in the afternoon.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: And you're on the air.
• 48:22
  Speaker 26: Ron, do you use any AI day-to-day? We talk a
• 48:27
  Speaker 26: lot about AI. We're going to run out of water
• 48:29
  Speaker 26: or electricity. But do you actually use it at all?
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: The fringes of it. Here's an interesting story for you.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: My son, we were having a problem with an air
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: conditioning issue in our truck, one of our trucks, and
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: he asked a, well, first he was given some advice
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: from a top-notch mechanic and then with AI and then
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: he says, oh, I can fix this. This is no
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: big deal. And he did it in 10 minutes with,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: like he said, kind of with AI.
• 48:59
  Speaker 26: Yeah, I mean, Some of these things, you don't even
• 49:03
  Speaker 26: have to, you know, some of the hardest part knowing
• 49:05
  Speaker 26: how to fix things is knowing what to even ask
• 49:07
  Speaker 26: the question to how to fix it.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: But not anymore.
• 49:09
  Speaker 12: You just take a picture of what you need to fix.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Or what's wrong. What are the symptoms and what do
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: you think is the problem, Right, and.
• 49:17
  Speaker 26: That's half the battle is just knowing what questions to
• 49:19
  Speaker 26: ask half the time. It is starting to get a
• 49:21
  Speaker 26: little scary. I won't elaborate on the story, but the
• 49:25
  Speaker 26: big names, Grok, Chad GPT, Claude, all of these, they
• 49:30
  Speaker 26: took them all offline and basically told these AI agents
• 49:35
  Speaker 26: that they were going to be shut down. Well, they
• 49:37
  Speaker 26: all got out, got onto the internet, and basically blackmailed
• 49:41
  Speaker 26: the person who was running it by making fake emails
• 49:45
  Speaker 26: saying that they were having an affair or whatever within
• 49:47
  Speaker 26: the company. Because the AI agents were going to get
• 49:50
  Speaker 26: shut down. So they used lying about the CEO or
• 49:56
  Speaker 26: whoever of the company to justify the means so that
• 49:59
  Speaker 26: they weren't ended. And it's starting to get really out
• 50:04
  Speaker 26: of hand. And the crazy part was the only way
• 50:06
  Speaker 26: they could figure out how this even happened was by
• 50:09
  Speaker 26: using a Chinese open source artificial intelligence. Because all of
• 50:15
  Speaker 26: our AIs in our country are run by, you know,
• 50:18
  Speaker 26: big major corporations. So the only way they could figure
• 50:22
  Speaker 26: out how to fix it was by using a Chinese model.
• 50:26
  Speaker 26: And that's what's really scary because we always talk about,
• 50:29
  Speaker 26: you know, China and all the terrible things that, you know,
• 50:32
  Speaker 26: from the economy to COVID and all this stuff. But
• 50:34
  Speaker 26: we're now the country that are running all the closed
• 50:36
  Speaker 26: models and China is running the open source models. So
• 50:42
  Speaker 26: we're getting to this point now with AI where you
• 50:45
  Speaker 26: can ask it, hey, how do I fix my stove?
• 50:47
  Speaker 26: And that's great. But what happens when you ask it, hey,
• 50:51
  Speaker 26: who should I vote for this year and why? It
• 50:54
  Speaker 26: all depends on who's putting in the information and what
• 50:57
  Speaker 26: the CEO or the board of that AI company really
• 51:01
  Speaker 26: wants you to know as the truth. And AI is
• 51:04
  Speaker 26: not always 100% right, but people are lazy. So when
• 51:08
  Speaker 26: they get the answer, they usually just go with it.
• 51:10
  Speaker 26: I mean, you could write an email now and just
• 51:12
  Speaker 26: on Gmail hit Polish, and it'll take your email from
• 51:16
  Speaker 26: being the writing level of a second grader, and you
• 51:19
  Speaker 26: can make it sound totally coherent like you're a PhD.
• 51:23
  Speaker 26: So it's not you're smart. It's just the AI does it.
• 51:26
  Speaker 26: And most of the time, most people aren't even going
• 51:28
  Speaker 26: to read it. They're going to hit Send. So you
• 51:30
  Speaker 26: don't really know if you're talking to anybody who's actually
• 51:31
  Speaker 26: even intelligent or not. Most people won't proofread it to
• 51:34
  Speaker 26: know if the email even makes sense. It's just starting
• 51:38
  Speaker 26: to get really scary. And it's going to get to
• 51:40
  Speaker 26: the point where some nefarious people are going to start
• 51:42
  Speaker 26: really taking advantage of this situation where you actually do
• 51:46
  Speaker 26: have to start preparing yourself because one day you're just
• 51:48
  Speaker 26: going to hear on the news that something really bad happened,
• 51:51
  Speaker 26: some cybersecurity something or other, and a lot of people
• 51:54
  Speaker 26: are probably going to get taken advantage of, and you've
• 51:57
  Speaker 26: got to be prepared for it. So you've got to
• 51:59
  Speaker 26: know how to use this stuff, and you've got to
• 52:00
  Speaker 26: know what to look out for too. These are just
• 52:03
  Speaker 26: added to the list of things you've got to watch
• 52:05
  Speaker 26: out for and worry about.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: I'm just sitting here listening to Alec talk, folks, and
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: I'm taking this all in, man. I mean, so you're
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: telling me that you can write a letter and it
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: can make you look smarter than you are, basically.
• 52:23
  Speaker 26: A hundred percent.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: And it's too easy now.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: So like when I was in college, let me say,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: how's it going to work? Like a lot of times
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: when I was in college, you had to write a paper, right?
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: And you used a typewriter. Boy, does that make you
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: sound 100 years old. I mean, because there weren't computers.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: So you typed it out. You used a typewriter to
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: type it. Now, so when you turned it in, it
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: was clear that you wrote it and you researched it.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: So today you're saying basically you could write whatever paper
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: in college and you could have AI fix it up.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: And do you think that the professor, these people will
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: catch it or grade it based on AI?
• 53:09
  Speaker 26: Yeah, I'm not even worried about that because anymore, and
• 53:11
  Speaker 26: I can speak to this 100%, but if you submit
• 53:13
  Speaker 26: a paper at a university, you don't print it off
• 53:16
  Speaker 26: and hand it anymore. You hand it in electronically. And
• 53:19
  Speaker 26: then they have software. They could, you know, put it
• 53:21
  Speaker 26: up against, say, you know, what percentage was this written
• 53:24
  Speaker 26: by AI. And a lot of these, they can even
• 53:26
  Speaker 26: see your keystrokes going along. So if you start typing
• 53:30
  Speaker 26: and your paper goes across the page, you know, in
• 53:33
  Speaker 26: a consistent flow without any backspaces, anything like that, you know,
• 53:37
  Speaker 26: they could tell you didn't write it. And there's a
• 53:39
  Speaker 26: lot of, you know, code of ethics and stuff in
• 53:41
  Speaker 26: universities more. I think that's getting a lot better where
• 53:43
  Speaker 26: you really can't mess around with that stuff. But most
• 53:46
  Speaker 26: people aren't getting their papers graded at a university, right?
• 53:50
  Speaker 26: Using AI, though, on a day-to-day basis, you can't really
• 53:53
  Speaker 26: save a lot of time, save a lot of money
• 53:55
  Speaker 26: for things. You can get the free version where you
• 53:59
  Speaker 26: only get so many tokens or credits that you're able
• 54:02
  Speaker 26: to use, and then it starts throttling down for you.
• 54:04
  Speaker 26: I use a paid version where I could use more
• 54:08
  Speaker 26: of it. But the one thing that's getting better and
• 54:11
  Speaker 26: better each time is its memory. Usually I'd have to
• 54:14
  Speaker 26: go in, and if I wanted to start something, let's
• 54:17
  Speaker 26: say work on a project.
• 54:18
  Speaker 12: You name it, whatever.
• 54:19
  Speaker 26: If I came back to it two weeks later, I'd
• 54:22
  Speaker 26: have to start all over again. Now I can go
• 54:25
  Speaker 26: three months later and just mention something that I was
• 54:27
  Speaker 26: working on and it will have the memory from that
• 54:30
  Speaker 26: project three months ago. And this is just what I'm
• 54:34
  Speaker 26: able to get, you know, for the what, you know,
• 54:36
  Speaker 26: 10 bucks a month, 20 bucks a month that I
• 54:38
  Speaker 26: pay for it. I can't even comprehend what, you know,
• 54:42
  Speaker 26: some of these agencies, you know, or companies are able
• 54:45
  Speaker 26: to actually do with it. The problem is, though, they're
• 54:48
  Speaker 26: putting so much money into this. I don't know what
• 54:51
  Speaker 26: they're getting out from a revenue side. And that's what
• 54:54
  Speaker 26: scares me about the whole entire market. You could say
• 54:57
  Speaker 26: you could put your name, whatever, AI in the stock market.
• 55:00
  Speaker 26: It would have gone up 10x in the last, you know, two,
• 55:03
  Speaker 26: three years. There's going to come a point where these
• 55:06
  Speaker 26: companies need to start making money off of this. And
• 55:09
  Speaker 26: are they going to be able to at the rate
• 55:11
  Speaker 26: at which they're spending and all this capital moving forward?
• 55:14
  Speaker 26: I haven't heard much about Stargate, the data center that's
• 55:21
  Speaker 26: going out to Lordstown, other than when it really came out.
• 55:23
  Speaker 26: I haven't heard much news about it. Are they still
• 55:25
  Speaker 26: even moving forward with that?
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: Where's that at?
• 55:27
  Speaker 26: Do they have the capital put into it?
• 55:29
  Speaker 13: I don't know.
• 55:32
  Speaker 12: I haven't heard much.
• 55:33
  Speaker 26: And that's the thing. You know, the narrative, everything changes so,
• 55:36
  Speaker 26: so darn fast here. It's getting scary. Have you heard
• 55:39
  Speaker 26: about the scenarios where, you know, you could clone, you know,
• 55:42
  Speaker 26: you can clone your voice. I could be talking to
• 55:44
  Speaker 26: you right now. I could just be an AI or
• 55:47
  Speaker 26: speaking to you. Someone could clone my voice where people
• 55:50
  Speaker 26: will do this now, call your family and say, hey, look,
• 55:53
  Speaker 26: we've kidnapped so-and-so. You better send the money here. I mean,
• 55:56
  Speaker 26: there's real-case scenarios now where you actually have to tell
• 55:59
  Speaker 26: your family that you need to have a secret password
• 56:01
  Speaker 26: if you're actually ever in trouble because you can't disseminate
• 56:04
  Speaker 26: the difference between my voice and the AI-generated voice. That's
• 56:08
  Speaker 26: where we're getting that to a point in society. And
• 56:11
  Speaker 26: that's just scary how fast things are moving. Before, you
• 56:15
  Speaker 26: used to prepare yourself for things like the future, like, oh,
• 56:17
  Speaker 26: we're getting a computer. Oh, it's a three-and-a-half-inch floppy disk.
• 56:20
  Speaker 26: We're going to move to a CD-ROM. No, you can't
• 56:22
  Speaker 26: even comprehend the things that are happening so fast. and
• 56:25
  Speaker 26: the legislation behind it is not keeping up, what guardrails
• 56:29
  Speaker 26: do we have in place so that me, you, anybody
• 56:32
  Speaker 26: else can't get in on an AI agent to attack somebody?
• 56:37
  Speaker 26: And when you don't have to actually put in the
• 56:38
  Speaker 26: physical or mental work to do it anymore, it makes
• 56:41
  Speaker 26: it a lot easier. And what happens when a nation
• 56:43
  Speaker 26: state tries to do it? What happens if China or
• 56:45
  Speaker 26: North Korea or Iran tried to do that they might
• 56:48
  Speaker 26: not be able to do it against our federal government
• 56:50
  Speaker 26: because we have just as much you know computing power
• 56:53
  Speaker 26: artificial intelligence but what if they go after our water uh...
• 56:56
  Speaker 26: supply or our electrical grid they've been doing china's been
• 56:59
  Speaker 26: in it for years what happens if now it's a
• 57:01
  Speaker 26: lot easier to actually make it happen and then cover
• 57:04
  Speaker 26: up their tracks afterwards these are all things you think
• 57:08
  Speaker 26: we're spending money now what do we have to do
• 57:10
  Speaker 26: for defense of all this cyber security is going to
• 57:13
  Speaker 26: get even crazier.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: I'm just sitting here listening to all of this, and boy,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: I find it thought-provoking. I was thinking, what do you
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: think the effects of AI will be on stock trading?
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, when it comes to AI, actually, let's say
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: you have it running. Stock trades are a portfolio for you,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: and it's doing the picking and the trading and everything.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: It would probably be better than a stockbroker or financial planner.
• 57:50
  Speaker 26: I mean, you know, obviously there's going to be, just
• 57:53
  Speaker 26: like anything else, AI agents that are better than others.
• 57:55
  Speaker 26: There's going to be better stock pickers that are better
• 57:58
  Speaker 26: than others or money managers. But, I mean, that's their
• 58:01
  Speaker 26: whole job as a money manager is to get the information,
• 58:04
  Speaker 26: disseminate it, and make the best decision. Do you think
• 58:06
  Speaker 26: somebody who's doing that, who's also, you know, running everybody
• 58:09
  Speaker 26: else's portfolio, their family, themselves, their health, their wellness is
• 58:15
  Speaker 26: going to be able to make the best decision possibly
• 58:17
  Speaker 26: than a computer program that runs on artificial intelligence? Maybe,
• 58:22
  Speaker 26: maybe not. But that's what's already going on. That's why
• 58:25
  Speaker 26: I keep saying when we go off and on on war,
• 58:29
  Speaker 26: we're at war, we're not at war, we're on war,
• 58:31
  Speaker 26: we're not at war. I don't think that's really because
• 58:33
  Speaker 26: anything's happening. I think they're manipulating the market so that
• 58:36
  Speaker 26: they know if they put out that statement, the AIs
• 58:38
  Speaker 26: are going to read that. and they're going to trade
• 58:41
  Speaker 26: near the stocks or the oil just on that. That's
• 58:47
  Speaker 26: probably what happened yesterday. I mentioned yesterday, but nobody really knows.
• 58:51
  Speaker 26: We bailed out Japan on Friday with their currency swap,
• 58:55
  Speaker 26: so the Japanese carry trade was able to keep going on.
• 58:58
  Speaker 26: So when everybody in Japan knew that they could borrow
• 59:01
  Speaker 26: money at less than 1% interest rates and then leverage
• 59:05
  Speaker 26: it in the United States to buy assets at 10x, Well,
• 59:08
  Speaker 26: that trade they just knew was back on. because Friday
• 59:11
  Speaker 26: the United States bailed them out.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: So what do you make of that?
• 59:21
  Speaker 12: Well, that's just it.
• 59:23
  Speaker 26: Sometimes you just don't know, and it's a timing thing.
• 59:26
  Speaker 26: I think I've been saying for a while, too, I
• 59:29
  Speaker 26: haven't been really enamored by the stock market for a
• 59:33
  Speaker 26: long time because I think it's a big house of cards.
• 59:36
  Speaker 26: But being too early is the same as being wrong.
• 59:40
  Speaker 26: How long can the Federal Reserve keep printing money? Can
• 59:45
  Speaker 26: they keep doing that until I can be insolvent for
• 59:48
  Speaker 26: what I think the market's going to go in the
• 59:49
  Speaker 26: other direction? That's what makes a market. Some people think
• 59:52
  Speaker 26: it's going up. Some people think it's going down. And
• 59:55
  Speaker 26: it just depends on who gets the information that much faster.
• 59:58
  Speaker 26: Do you have the AI agents who can make those trades?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 26: Do you have them that are programming code and multiple
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 26: lines of code, finding errors in code so that your
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 26: trade could go faster than anybody else?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Let me put it this way, folks. I hope you're
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: listening to what he's saying, because whether you like it
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: or not, it's I'm sitting here listening like I'm sitting
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: in a chair listening to a lecture and enjoying it,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: quite frankly. And I'm listening to what Alec is saying
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: because what he's saying is this isn't the Jetsons that's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: happening in 10 years. This is happening now. What you're
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: talking about is here now and is going to grow
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: in reality each and every day. I mean, you're not
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: talking about something far off in the future. You're talking
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: about the present.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 19: Agree?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: A hundred percent.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 26: Even if you're a little, if your name's in somebody's
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 26: yard sign come election season, you should have your last
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 26: name and then what AI agent you're using to make yourself,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 26: you know, more efficient for the taxpayer. I mean, it
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 26: does make you more efficient. You do have to have
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 26: some form of knowledge to know what questions to ask
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 26: and then be able to, you know, disseminate the result
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 26: it gives you. But it's changing a lot. It's changing
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 26: it fast. And if you don't know about it or
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 26: at least know how to use it or know how
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 26: to identify when somebody else is using it, you can
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 26: get yourself in a world of hurt. And I really
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 26: feel for the elderly out there because not only can
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 26: you write an email that, you know, is way better than,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 26: you know, you could ever write yourself. The videos out
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 26: there are just insane that you can't tell the difference
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 26: between what's real and what's not what's you know ai
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 26: created if you're not you know watching these things all
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 26: the time and seeing the difference between them it's really
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 26: scary and it's only going to get better it's getting
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 26: better every single year the the the threshold for ai
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 26: video and don't ask me why this started out like
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 26: this but it was a video of will smith eating
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 26: a bowl of spaghetti and in 2023 he'd have like
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 26: seven fingers and it just looked like the fakest thing
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 26: you can ever see Well, if you look at the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 26: version of it now in 2026, you cannot tell that
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 26: that wasn't shot by some, you know, Hollywood movie set.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 26: And it is 100% completely fake. There's no need for
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 26: Disney anymore to hire Imagineers to build all these things
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 26: or spend millions of dollars when they could just have
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 26: the computer, the AI build it for them.
• 1:02:33
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• 1:02:36
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• 1:02:40
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• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: So what do you think we should do?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 26: Start using AI.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: In other words, in your opinion, anyone who's listening should
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: try to get an understanding of what AI is and
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: how to use it. And so we should start using it,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: and then what?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 26: Just make your life easier on daily activities, writing an email,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 26: fixing something in your garage, writing a list.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 23: I mean, you can..
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 15: I'm telling you..
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 26: Anybody out there, if you just know how to ask
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 26: the questions, you can do just about anything on your computer.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 26: If you want to make an app for something, I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 26: know it sounds crazy, but it can actually be done
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 26: as long as you just have the time to actually
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 26: go back and forth with it and ask the questions.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 15: It's insane.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 26: But you need to know how to use it, and
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 26: you need to just keep using it. AI is like golf.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 26: You get better at golf the more you golf. So
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 26: you get better at AI the more you use AI,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 26: and you're going to start realizing that you could use
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 26: this for other things that you never even would have
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 26: thought of before.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: That would make your life easier.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 26: Make it easier and also protect yourself a lot more
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 26: so that that way you kind of get the gist
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 26: and understanding of, ooh, somebody else could do this. How
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 26: can I get a tacker? Maybe I need to put
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 26: that two-factor authentication on my retirement account. Maybe I need
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 26: to protect my phone against a SIM swap. All these
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 26: other things that you don't even think are possible, but
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 26: they can happen to you if you're not protected because
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 26: it's dangerous out there. And again, we're in a weird
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 26: time right now. all these companies that are using it,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 26: they're putting all their data from all their companies, all
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 26: their proprietary information into these companies that aren't even public yet.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 26: And they control all of that information, just a handful
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 26: of companies. And it all depends on who's using that
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 26: information from the top down. Hey, they say they're not
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 26: going to use it. They're not going to look at it.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 26: But you can't really trust it. You have to verify it.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 26: And we can't verify it. So You have to protect yourself,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 26: but you also have to know how to use it,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 26: like using your cell phone. You agree to the terms
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 26: of agreement as soon as you turn it on or
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 26: you can't use it. So we can't live in a
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 26: society anymore without having a cell phone. Maybe Frank still
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 26: doesn't have a cell phone, but in regular society, you
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 26: still need to have a phone. So you either need
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 26: to learn how to use it or just get left behind,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 26: but you also need to know how to protect yourself,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 26: just like having a phone. so you don't get scammed
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 26: or spammed or a virus, anything like that. It's just
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 26: it's a weird world moving forward. And not only just
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 26: talking about the cost of all this or the jobs
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 26: locally from it, but just going on a personal level
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 26: how to use it and how to make it work
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 26: for you.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Do you think it'll replace a lot of people, as
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: they've been saying, that it'll put people out of work?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 26: Well, I don't think it's going to put people out
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 26: of work. I think it's going to prevent people from
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 26: getting work. If you're a lawyer and you've been a
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 26: lawyer for 30 years, AI is not going to put
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 26: you out of business. But it's going to prevent that
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 26: big law firm from hiring the 25-year-old. If you've been
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 26: a broker, you know, an investor for 30 years with
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 26: a track record, it might not put you out of business,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 26: but you don't need to hire 15 other people in
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 26: your office. So it's going to prevent other jobs from
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 26: even coming into play. And then, again, it's all going
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 26: to depend. There's some AI models out there. They're so good,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 26: but they cost so much. It's actually more than just
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 26: hiring the actual person to do the work. So that's
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 26: where the cost of energy, like we've always talked about,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 26: is going to come into play. We need to find
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 26: a way to get more energy in our country. Obviously,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 26: the war with the Strait of Hormuz being closed, that
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 26: throws everything into a loop. That's all trickled down. Gas, propane, diesel,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 26: every form of energy, you name it. But you need
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 26: to have the memory. You need to have the chips.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 26: We don't have the building capacity in our country or globally,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 26: but definitely not in our country. So we can't even
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 26: move forward exponentially at the rate that these companies need
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 26: to to make a profit because we don't have the
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 26: production capacity. So at some point, I don't know when
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 26: there's a tipping point. And that's where I could be right.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: It could be next week.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 26: I could be wrong. It could be next week. Nobody
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 26: really knows the answer. I mean, Elon Musk, he's been
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 26: planning this for years. He's building these enormous data centers,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 26: and right now he doesn't need the capacity, so he's
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 26: selling it to other companies, but there's going to come
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 26: a day where you're driving around in your autonomous car
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 26: and he's putting rockets back on the moon, which.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 8: He did today.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 26: Did you see him launch a rocket and hit the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 26: moon today? That's another thing. He's going to want that
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 26: all back, and then all these companies, their revenues are
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 26: just going to tank because they don't have the storage
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 26: or the memory or the compute. So unless we find
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 26: a way to build more of it, It's going to
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 26: cost more.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: Well, isn't that, when you talk about that, isn't that
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: like Bezos? I mean, we couldn't live without Amazon. I mean,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: it's a great thing. But doesn't he make the bulk
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: of his money with that AWS, that system of his? Oh, yeah.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 26: Amazon Web Services. He'll even say that he was shocked
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 26: to have that for so long without any competition.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's gigantic, correct? His web service and all
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: types of businesses go through it, and it's huge, and
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: it's got to make him just a fortune, that alone,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: in addition to Amazon, the service that brings you your
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: packages and stuff.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 26: I mean, he's got a, he never has to, he's
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 26: been selling actually a lot of shares lately because he's
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 26: got his own, you know, rocket company, Blue Origin. He
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 26: never needs to sell anything in his life. He could just,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 26: you know, take loans against his assets and, He never
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 26: has to do anything, but I guess once you become
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 26: a multi-billionaire like that, you just want to make your
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 26: own space rocket company and have it succeed.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: So you're excited about it, but you're also worried about it, right?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 15: Yeah, that's exactly right.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Man, excellent call. Thank you. I hope you call and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: talk more about it. Appreciate it, Alec.
• 1:08:47
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  Speaker 2: I tell you, if you were paying attention when Alec
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  Speaker 2: you know, you got to get hip with this stuff
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  Speaker 15: So that's the lead in. I really enjoyed Alex's conversation.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 15: I have a slightly different take on it. If you're interested,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 15: it's very interested on how can AI save us tax
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 15: dollars pretty quickly. Want to hear that?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 15: Okay. In Ohio, this is just one example, by the way.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 15: But in Ohio, there are 88 counties, right?
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 15: And there are 88 county auditors.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 19: Yes. Okay.
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  Speaker 15: Each has their right to have their own data set
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 15: that is not controlled by the state. There is this
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 15: thing called OGRIP that is like the state, and they
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 15: all submit their parcels, like the properties in your counties there.
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  Speaker 15: But it's really inconsistent, and there are companies that support
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 15: it today, and the most that any one company does,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 15: the most counties that any one company does is like
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 15: 22 or 23.
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 15: So knowing this, I just wanted to learn how Trumbull
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 15: County worked. And I made a public records request. And
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 15: so I started studying. And by the way, you can also,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 15: you don't just have to have AI do things for you.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 15: You can have it teach you things. And that sticks
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 15: in your mind. It just helps you, you know, it's
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 15: a learning tool too. So anyway, so all of these
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 15: different 88 counties, they have teams of people that manage
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 15: data or they hire people that do. And they all
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  Speaker 15: do it differently. I started with Trumbull County, and I
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 15: just kept going after that because I saw a pattern,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 15: and I created an interface. Right now, if you check
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 15: your email, Ron, right now, you'll see it. You can
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 15: click on the link, and you'll see what I mean.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 15: It's an app that has all 88 counties in it,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 15: and it has a consistent interface into the data for
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 15: all 88 county auditors. So I ask you down the road,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 15: once I get there, and right now I'm writing things
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 15: that will test it and make sure it's production ready
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 15: and all this kind of stuff. So once I get
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 15: it done, I'm going to show it to people that care.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: And once you get it done, it will tell you what?
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 12: Okay.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 15: So that's just what I was about to say.
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  Speaker 2: Who cares?
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 15: People that are looking for properties... like energy drillers or
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 15: people that want to put any kind of plants and
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 15: things like that, they go and they look at these
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 15: county auditor sites and they look at properties. And every
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 15: time they go to a different one in Ohio, they
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 15: have to use a different service. Now, they don't have to.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 15: It's just it puts a... A face over the whole
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 15: thing so one person could just say, oh, I want
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 15: to see what's in that county. Okay, how do you
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 15: do it? Do it the same way. Go there, hit parcels,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 15: look it up, you know, drill down to it, address
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 15: the parcel number, whatever. But it's all the same and
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 15: it's handled all the same way. So that eventually the
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 15: question will become, okay, so why do I need 88
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 15: different departments.
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  Speaker 5: In Ohio?
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  Speaker 15: How much does that cost?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: So my first thought was, is this something that as
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: you do it yourself, you could monetize it for yourself?
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  Speaker 9: Maybe.
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  Speaker 15: I mean, maybe, but I'm more interested at this point. See,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 15: I feel like..
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll skip that. Let me go to the next thing.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: So if you could get all the data from 88 counties...
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: all put together on AI, then theoretically you could say
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: to AI, where is the waste in Mahoning County? And
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: it will do its thing. to show you where the
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: waste is.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 15: Well, you have to give it the data to find
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 15: out where waste is, but you're getting it right. Like,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 15: let's just say, let's say, okay, I got these 88
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 15: interfaces into this data, right? So I need to go
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 15: in and now I can ask AI, which I'm about
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 15: to do, say, okay, now that you can look at
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 15: all of them the same, make me a database of
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 15: all of them the same and extract all the values
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 15: that are different between them, but make them all look
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 15: the same in a database. Okay, now... That's what they
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 15: theoretically have at this OGRIP program in Columbus, but it's
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 15: not very good. I'm discovering firsthand. If anybody knows what
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 15: computer-aided mass appraisal is, they don't even have those mixed
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 15: with the actual parcel data in all cases. It's just
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 15: all different. So I actually did it and said, okay,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 15: I want this same representation. So to your point, let's say, oh,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 15: here's one you like. Another thing I created was lists
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 15: of all the health care providers, okay? And you could get– actually,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 15: you can get all the data for every health care provider,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 15: even if they're just people that work at hospitals and stuff.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 15: But let's forget that. Anybody who's listed as a health
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 15: care provider in Ohio, period, on a map. And, like,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 15: so if you're somebody like that Nick Shirley guy or something,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 15: you know, here you go, Nick. Let me go see
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 15: who's working and all that. So you could use it.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: It could help you.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 15: Now, you could also, Ron, make a steady other list,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 15: to your point, about things that might reveal waste and
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 15: fraud and abuse or.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: Do things better.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 15: Duplication. See, that's what started this conversation. There's all this duplication.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 15: It was just because it was a monumental task that
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 15: you could never do.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: You know, it was so busy.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 15: Everybody said, keep your county at your data level. That's
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 15: too big. I can't manage it here. Well, that was before.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 15: You know what I mean? It's like now if you
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 15: want to walk through, I mean, I got to tell you,
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  Speaker 15: AI just didn't do this for me. I mean, I
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 15: spent months. Going through the state of Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but would you say that within the next short
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: period of time, and I mean short period of time,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking 10 years from now or five years
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: from now, in a short period of time, the job
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: of Mahoney County Auditor will be much different than it
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: is today?
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 15: I believe so. By the way, yeah, you can look
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 15: at Mahoney County Auditors there, too.
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  Speaker 2: But, I mean, it will be much different to where
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: many of the people that you employ you won't need
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: anymore because the AI system will be better and more
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: efficient at doing it, right?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, you train it to do the busy work,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 15: and then you say, okay, well, I don't need the
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 15: people that do the busy work, you know. And let's
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 15: talk about another thing, too. I know you'll hate this part, maybe,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 15: because I kind of do. But the elections process and
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 15: all the Board of Elections, all the busy work they do.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 15: You know, this is another example, you know. Trouble is
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 15: pretty far behind everybody in the software that gets through
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 15: old system and stuff. And, like, I could point this
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 15: thing at one county and say, okay, study this and
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 15: make me this, and now let's do that same thing
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 15: for Trumbull and all the other ones. And somebody could
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 15: sit there and do an accounting of the entire state
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 15: of Ohio and have one system that would handle all
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 15: the elections in a month or two.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, what is happening here in a short period
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: of time is nothing short of amazing. Is that a
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: fair statement? Absolutely.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 15: Yeah, and I can't, you know, nobody asked me before
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 15: they did this. So before anybody gets angry about using
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 15: AI and all that, you know, I just woke up
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 15: one day and they said, look at this. And by
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 15: the way, you're out of work because we're going to
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 15: use AI for you. You know, so I was like, yeah.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 15: And I said, oh, the hell you are. I've been
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 15: through this before.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: I need to retool, right?
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 15: So I'm just retooling and following what it's given me.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 15: You know what I mean?
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: And they showed you the door. They said, so I was.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 15: Kind of done anyway. And it was just like a
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 15: convenient timing. You know what I mean? But that's what
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 15: was happening.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: But AI replaced what you did, correct?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 15: Part of it, yeah.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 15: Because they could hire young resources or less inexperienced resources,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 15: and they could use AI to do things that I
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 15: would do. Now, you should see my brain in computer
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 15: science and AI combined. okay, dude, this is some sick stuff.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 15: Like, when I first started this parcel thing, I had
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 15: to turn off what I used to call the FBI mode.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 15: I'm like, I don't want to know that much. I
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 15: just want to know a parcel and, you know, its
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 15: sale history and everything that you can get today, public information.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 15: But because I know all this stuff around, like, what
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 15: it's doing behind the scenes, if you have that combination of.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 8: Person, wow.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 15: I mean, what this thing can do, because it can
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 15: do all of the busy work that you used to
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 15: actually do. But you're telling it and testing whether it
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 15: did it right. By the way, I don't trust a
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 15: single thing that it does yet. Everything is tested. I
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 15: don't even let it hit a web page without saying, okay,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 15: before it does it.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: All right, but you've always been a smart guy on
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: this computer stuff. So do you find it... Like Alec
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: was saying, you find it amazing and it'll make your
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: life easier, but there's the aspect that is also very
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: troubling with AI.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 13: Agree?
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 15: Oh, I am scared to death.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: And just tell me why.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 15: I got no other... Because I have... Like Alec said,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 15: I don't know where this is going. Like, and let's see,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 15: even if it's, you know... The data centers and all that.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 15: I told you, I don't think this is good for humanity.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 15: You know, we used to be agrarian, and everybody had
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 15: a purpose because half of their purpose was feeding themselves.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 15: But if you don't need people, look, that's all these
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 15: countries are. They're just companies. You saw it. How do
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 15: you think all us Italians and other Eastern Europeans ended
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 15: up here? Because they needed labor, and the people there
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 15: were too happy to work real hard or work doing
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 15: what they needed, so they brought in a bunch of people.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 15: Same thing they were trying to do now. This is
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 15: just the next level of that, I fear. And that's
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 15: the part that, you know.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: I fear.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 15: But it is what it is. You know, if you realize, like, Civilizations,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 15: they rise and they fall all the time. So everybody's
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 15: always riding away.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: It would seem to me, as you guys talk, and
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: it would seem to me AI is going to be
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: a huge asset to your health. as you go get
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: over or you go to the doctor to be able
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: to do perhaps a better diagnosis than a doctor can do.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: You know, if you go, let's say..
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 15: We're talking today because of AI. Because they used AI
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 15: to figure out the DNA of a cancer that was
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 15: going on and they created a drug that would go
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 15: in and fight that. And It seems to be working. And,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 15: by the way, this is not just happening to me.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 15: It's happening to tons of people now. And so it
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 15: may have, in some respects, cured cancer to some degrees already.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, I'm just saying you could go to
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: the dermatologist. They'll take a picture of all rashes look
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: the same to me, and potentially AI will say this
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: is what that is.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I do the same thing with weeds in my
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 15: ear before I touch them.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: Right, I mean, it will tell you exactly what it is,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: or AI will tell you if you put your symptoms
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: in or what's going on, what they think is wrong
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: with you. A second opinion.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 15: Yeah, there's people that are up in arms about this,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 15: and I guess I understand where they're coming from because
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 15: it means big change, but it's the same. You know,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 15: it's like somebody who owns a heating and cooling business
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 15: complaining about this.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 15: Because years ago, they used all kinds of natural resources
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 15: to heat our homes and stuff, right? And you made
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 15: a ton of money on that. And it meant coal
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 15: plants and all this pollution. So if you are yelling
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 15: about that, anything related to heating and cooling, you are
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 15: a real hypocrite, in my opinion.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Well, there are plenty of people that are saying the
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: amount of energy– I said when I started the program,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: and I'll say it to you. I opened my electric
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: bill today. It was the highest electric bill I ever
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: had in my life. All right? Granted, we had some–
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, we run our air conditioner. It's at 72.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: And I have– I'm trying to think of, you know, freezer, refrigerators,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. But the highest electric bill I
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: ever had today was $ 300 for the month. And that
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: last year would have been $ 150. That's how much the
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: cost of electricity has gone up. I mean, the usage
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: is pretty close to the same. But the cost of
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: the electrons has doubled significantly. So my concern is, well,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: you say that, but perhaps you use less electricity for
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: light bulbs. LEDs more energy efficient than the old light bulbs.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: Your plasma TV or your LED TVs less energy than
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: your plasma. I mean, a lot of things are way
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: more energy efficient. Refrigerators, televisions, light bulbs. I mean, things
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: have become more energy efficient, but you're still using more.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: Somehow you use more energy and there's more demand for
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: it because of AI and because of Obama tearing all
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: these coal plants down. I sat back and I thought, well,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: where will the cost of electric be next year? Do
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: you remember when you were young and your parents got
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: air conditioning, they were afraid to turn it on because
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: of the electric bill and what it was going to cost?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was back in my day when I
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: was young with my parents, and there was always that concern.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: We're going to get right back to that where it's
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: going to be so damn expensive to be comfortable in
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: your own home because the cost of energy is so high.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: you'll be thinking twice about it. And that's a sad day.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 15: Ron, my parents didn't get air conditioning until I was
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 15: an adult and already moved out and had air conditioning
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 15: because they couldn't afford it.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine like when these people came
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: over for soccer and they don't have air conditioning in
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: France or that kind of stuff. Even in a hospital
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: and you're sick and you got that heat and humidity
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: and that kind of stuff. I mean, it would really suck.
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  Speaker 2: And I say this often. John Kerry thought, well, we
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: got a two goodness country. John Kerry was saying we
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: should live more like they do in Europe. Basically, we
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have air conditioning, that pompous ass, where you know
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: he would have it in his mansion. But he thought
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: the rest of us paupers shouldn't have it.
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  Speaker 15: My only point, though, is that that is a user
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  Speaker 15: of energy that's not necessarily necessary all the time. And
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 15: we use it because of the comfort. So anybody who
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 15: does that and complains about a data center, by the way,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 15: I'm not for data centers.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 15: I think they should make them create their own energy.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: You're going down bull crap road now with this. No,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: if my comfort, my air conditioning makes my life better.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: And it's more comfortable. Listen, as a kid, I grew
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: up and they didn't have central air. I remember, like
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: I said, when my dad brought this big air conditioner
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: home for the first time. But growing up as kids
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: with a fan in a bedroom on a hot, humid day,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: it wasn't easy to sleep and you were sweating. Air
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: conditioning made your life stand by for a second. All right.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: I want to keep my thought. I got to give
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: him a piece of my mind. Ron Verb from the
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: Kingdom of Mahoning. Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 4: Your one-stop WKBN.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: All right, back to it. Listen, electricity for comfort and
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: making your house comfortable is worth it. I'm just saying
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: to you that pompous-ass John Kerry would like to see
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: the electricity be so expensive that you'd think twice before
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: turning on your air conditioning. And we're getting to that point,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: I feel. Because it's becoming so expensive, and I believe
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: it'll become even more expensive next year, supply and demand.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: Once again, because of that idiot Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: and Biden with the green energy of ripping down these
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: regulating coal plants out of business and requiring them to
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: be ripped down with nothing to replace them, in addition
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: to the amount of energy AI is sucking up. I mean,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: you've got to have cheap energy for people to be
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: able to function, whether that's gasoline or natural gas to
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: eat your house or electricity. When it's all becoming so
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: damn expensive and sucking up so much of your money,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: it becomes a lifestyle dramatic change and not for the better.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: So we better figure this energy problem out really fast.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: And the people that are concerned about A.I., I can't
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: fault them for them saying they're concerned about the amount
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: of power that these systems use, what it will cost
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: them for their electric use, and the amount of water
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: that it can use and how that water will be
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: treated when they're done with it. I think some of
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: the concerns that people are expressing are legitimate concerns. Do
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: you agree?
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  Speaker 15: Oh, I totally agree. I think if you're going to
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 15: use energy, you should create it in such a way
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 15: that it does not disturb energy. What's close to it, okay?
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 15: So when you told me, oh, they could put up
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 15: a power plant back early when you started talking about it.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 15: I said, do you remember when I said, well, can
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 15: we put it right next to Verb Manor? Put the
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 15: power plant next to Verb Manor? And you're like, yeah, right?
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 15: So that part, yeah, I agree. I don't even care
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 15: if we have data centers or not. All I'm saying
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 15: is AI is there, and it's not necessarily a data center.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 15: I could do AI on my local computer. It's just
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 15: how big you want it. But let me say one
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 15: thing I got to tell you before I sign off.
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  Speaker 15: Do you know where the passion for politics is in
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 15: this town?
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: Where?
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 15: Like you said, there's no.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, where?
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 15: 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: I would agree with that.
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  Speaker 12: Okay.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: I would agree.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 15: You should be there. That's why there's no passionate people here.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 15: If you don't, you know, let's say you weren't going
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 15: to vote for whoever. Well, there's got to be someone
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 15: to vote for that. Otherwise, what's the use? And if
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 15: nobody runs, any schmuck gets in there.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Mike. Thanks. Appreciate it, guy. Back with more calls.
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• 1:34:16
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• 1:34:22
  Speaker 29: specifically in Ohio, are being told to report to DHS
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  Speaker 29: and some are being outfitted with ankle monitors. Some are
• 1:34:28
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• 1:34:34
  Speaker 29: this is a new tactic to target Haitians for removal.
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  Speaker 2: They're also being told.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb. On News Radio 570, WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: IDO 506 here on a Wednesday afternoon, August 5th, and
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: it's 81 degrees, and you're on the air. Hello.
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  Speaker 8: Ron?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Hi.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this is what I've been waiting for. Do you
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: have a report for me? Do you have a report
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: for the class?
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 11: I have a very... Yes, I have a report. And
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 11: you know, last time you sent me out on a
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 11: cub reporting mission, you know I got my arse kicked
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 11: for like a month straight.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: So..
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: I told you to be..
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  Speaker 9: Because I'm sensitive. I'm like a little sensitive lamb, and
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 9: I just don't want..
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  Speaker 2: I understand, but I sent you on... You're like an
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: undercover reporter. You're supposed to be undercover. I mean, I deputized..
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 11: I know, and that's struggling, because I don't know that
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 11: I'm undercover anymore.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I deputized you as a cub reporter for the
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: program to go on out and... And to cover these events,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: you're kind of like, you know, the roving reporter for
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: 570 WKBN's run for program. So you went, now explain
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: where you went last night. Give me your report.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 10: I did not go.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 11: What I did was, is I watched for my nightly entertainment,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 11: the Poland Township Emergency Trustee Meeting, where they were going
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 11: to discuss about putting on a levy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 11: Now, right away, what's super interesting about this is that
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 11: the chief financial officer or the fiscal officer said, guys,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 11: I told you two weeks ago, if you were thinking
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 11: about putting on a levy, we're not doing it today
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 11: because you're late. And I told you this. So that
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 11: was really eye-opening right away because... Um, yeah, that meeting yesterday, they.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 9: Couldn't have gotten a levy on whether they wanted.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 11: To, which Denise was absolutely accurate about. I think she
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 11: mentioned that last week. Like, I don't know if they're
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 11: even going to be able to get on one, but
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 11: obviously they didn't, they weren't listening.
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  Speaker 2: So they missed the deadline.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 11: Yeah, they missed the deadline. So in a nutshell, during
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 11: that meeting, it was very, um, contentious. Um, PJ Cantor,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 11: the fiscal officer, he went through, he covered the numbers.
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  Speaker 9: I thought he did a beautiful job.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 11: I was keeping at pace with him the entire time
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 11: he was talking, but I do have a financial acumen.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 11: Not everybody does. So I would be interested to see like, well, actually, no,
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  Speaker 11: I did talk to several people and they were able
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 11: to keep up and understand everything that he was saying.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 11: And they didn't necessarily work in business operations or have
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 11: to do budgets or projections and they were able to
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 11: understand it.
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  Speaker 9: So I thought he did a really good job.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 11: So he basically laid it out again, and there was
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 11: contention there. You could see that on Garrow, they kind
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 11: of jabbed him again and said, so it's not $ 1, 500 anymore,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 11: because PJ, there were some adjustments made. The money still
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 11: hasn't come in from the property taxes. Ungaro kind of
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 11: like nabbed at PJ a little bit. And PJ, I
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 11: was impressed. I think he got a little tougher.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 9: And he was like, hold on a minute.
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  Speaker 11: No, we still have a problem here. Yeah, just because we.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 9: Have $ 100, 000 does not mean we don't.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 11: Have a big problem. We do have a big problem. Now,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 11: the reason why they have a big problem is because
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 11: of decisions that they've made. So let's just be clear
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 11: on that. It's decisions that they made that caused the problem,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 11: but there is a problem, and it's about a $ 750, 000
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 11: problem that's going to realize at the end of this year.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 11: From now until then, they have a gap because the
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 11: property tax monies are laid everywhere. They don't know when
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 11: they're going to get that money in the door. So
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 11: at this point, where it sits is, PJ again said,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 11: we're going to have to make, and it was like
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 11: all this back and forth. Do we need to make cuts?
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 11: Are we going to make cuts? That's all tabled. They're
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 11: going to meet again, apparently.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: People need to understand every day that they wait to
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 11: make a decision. And I do believe and I do
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 11: agree that they should be very thoughtful. They should make
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 11: sure that it's the right decision. They should have all
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 11: the decks, you know, everything laid out for them to
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 11: make that decision. But every day, every week, every month
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 11: that you wait, you're creating more of a problem because
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 11: your costs haven't changed.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 9: Does that make sense?
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, totally.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 9: Okay, totally, right?
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 11: So, you know, at this point, it looks like $ 750, 000
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 11: is the number. So that's not three mil. Let's get
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 11: that straight. One mil is $ 500, 000, according to PJ three
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 11: or four meetings ago. I caught that he said that.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 18: So one mil is $ 500, 000.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 7: So if there's $ 750, 000 short, it'd be about a.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 9: Mil and a half, not three mil.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 11: Angaro continues to believe that we don't have any issues
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 11: and that this township has been run fantastically well and
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 11: wouldn't change a thing.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: Now pause for a second. What's your reaction to that?
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 9: He's absolutely dead wrong.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 11: Real quick, I will digress for one second because Alec
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 11: made up some great points. These guys all need to
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 11: get with the new technology that's out there. Because if
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 11: you're going to become a trustee, And this is a
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 11: dig on everybody in every county. It's a dig on
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 11: every person running for every office.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 9: That if you do not know business, you do not have.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 11: A financial acumen, and you're responsible for budgets or taxpayer dollars,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 11: you better start to learn. And there's this little thing
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 11: out there called AI.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 9: I use it every day.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 11: I actually have my own agents that work for me
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 11: that are AI. I mean, I created my own bots, right,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 11: that do jobs for me. So it's very easy to use,
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 11: but like Alex said, you got to get used to it.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 11: So these guys could be learning from it and setting
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 11: up reminders, make.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 9: Sure to cover the budget. Hey, if we do this,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 9: what's going to.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 11: Be the impact? They can start building scenarios within their
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 11: AI tool and actually send themselves reminders that, Your AI
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 11: tool is like your personal assistant. And I'm going to
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 11: digress for one second because I think this is important.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 11: And Alec and your last caller had a very good
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 11: lot of information, but I'm a trainer by, I train
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 11: thousands of people too. So I think sometimes it's easier
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 11: to like have it broken down easily.
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  Speaker 9: In your chat, if you have.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 11: A chat tool and you have ChatGPT, Copilot, whatever one
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 11: you're using, GROK, there's all sorts of them. You can
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 11: start to set up, like for example, I have five
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 11: strategic initiatives at work right now.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 18: I also have.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 11: An initiative that I'm working on that's called abolishing property taxes.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 11: When I'm in my chat GPT.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 9: Tool, I say this.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 11: This is a work initiative. Commit it to memory. Here
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 11: are my five strategic goals for the year.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 9: I'm going to lower costs.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 11: I'm going to create a new, I'm going to develop
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 11: a blah, blah, blah, right? Make sure you remember that.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 11: I have a task now running that says on every Monday,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 11: remind me to update the status of my progress on strategic.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 9: Initiative priority number one.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 11: Okay, give me the outputs of everything that we talked
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 11: about this week.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 9: For an executive review.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 11: Create a spreadsheet for me based on everything that we
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 11: talked about this and tell me, based on my current progress,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 11: when will I achieve my target? It's amazing, but you
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 11: have to play with it.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 9: It's easy.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 11: These are easy things. You can, say, create a second
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 11: project called Home. My second project is a HomeBot. So
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 11: now it's almost like my personal assistant. I have a
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 11: hair appointment on Tuesday at 5.30. Make sure you remind
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 11: me on Monday at 5 p.m. On Monday, I will
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 11: get a reminder. Don't forget your hair appointment tomorrow. Personal,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 11: make sure your son has this, this, and this before
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 11: he goes back to college, which is on this day.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 11: Set a reminder. Here's this season's wrestling schedule. Please remind
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 11: me two days prior where we're going.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 9: And where's the best location to get a hotel.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 11: I mean, so these people running the townships, if you're
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 11: not particularly smart in things like this, I did one
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 11: just playing around while Alex.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 9: Was on the phone.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 11: I said, every Monday, send me the newest, grants that
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 11: Poland Township would be eligible for based on their current status,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 11: send it.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 14: To me every Monday.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 11: So, listen, I'm going to go and delete it, okay?
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 11: But every Monday, if there's something applicable, it will send
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 11: to me. It'll spoon-feed it to me. Now, you want
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 11: to talk about amazin'. This is what it is. It
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 11: is a personal assistant. It's a personal assistant for your home.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 11: It's a personal assistant for your work. It's a personal
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 11: assistant for any things that you're doing.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 9: That are outside of work.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 11: You want to schedule things. You've got appointments. You've got
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 11: a calendar, side jobs, whatever it is that you're doing.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 11: Update me on what else I need to order. Hey,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 11: I'm out of tomatoes. Remind me on Friday.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 9: Hey, got to pick up shredded cheddar.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 11: Please make sure you add.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 18: That to my list.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 11: This is what this tool does.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 9: So, yes, you will be sadly left behind.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 11: Now, let's go back. Any thoughts on that? I'll pause
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 11: there for real quick.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: Okay. As you pause there, I'm going back to some girl.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: How can he think there isn't a problem when they're
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: going to run out of money and they're laying people off?
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 18: Okay, well, they haven't.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 9: Decided on laying people off yet. Because they voted on
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 9: the budget.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I thought we're getting rid of the
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: summer help or whatever. They were discussing that in one
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: of these meetings. I go back to say this. So basically,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: the financial... Let me just cut to the chase here.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: Answer a few questions for me. Is Poland Township in
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: a financial crisis right now?
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  Speaker 11: Yes, based on the budget that they have laid out. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Do you then were decisions made by Ungaro and the
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: trustees without consideration for whether or not they could afford.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 8: To do it?
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 11: Yes, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: So just to just to just follow along here. So
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: your answer to both those questions is yes. Is that correct?
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: You answered it, yes, sir, in a financial crisis. And
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: I asked you whether or not the trustees made financial
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: decisions without giving considerations to the budget as a whole
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: and what impact that would have on a total budget.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: And did you answer that question yes as well?
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 8: I did.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: And so..
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  Speaker 11: Now you want to ask me what I would do?
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 11: Because I can solve the budget.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to ask you what you're going to do.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: So do you find it odd that Ungaro would say
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: what he said, that he didn't think there was a problem?
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: Am I... What did you..
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 4: I find it more than odd.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 11: I find it disturbing because it was almost like a tiff.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 11: Like there's an internal tiff and he feels jaded and...
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 11: And that, you know, he went out and kept spouting
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 11: out that there was no issue. There was no issue.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 11: He does not want it to seem like he was
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 11: sleeping at the wheel. All right.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: But with him saying that, based on the research that
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: you have done, we know what you said his statement was.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: Based on the research you have done, do you think
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: his statement is an accurate statement or a misleading statement?
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 11: I think it's extremely misleading. It's extremely misleading because unless
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 11: he takes action, and there's many actions and avenues that
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 11: could dig them out.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, but there's a couple.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 11: But that's not what they planned for. And they spent
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 11: so much money that it's going to be a challenge.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: All right. Just bear with me. So would you agree
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: that the trustees share a lot of blame for the
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: fiscal situation that Poland Township is in at the present time?
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 11: What was your answer?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, 2,000%.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 11: 2,000%.
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  Speaker 2: Would you also agree that Poland Township has a serious
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: issue as far as its police department is concerned because
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: they weren't even on top of the game enough to
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: know what the deadline was to put a levy on
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: for the police department? Would you agree with that statement?
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 7: Um..
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  Speaker 11: I would agree somewhat. I would agree that, well, first
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 11: of all, if you don't make payroll, you're in a
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 11: disastrous situation.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: But I just want to focus back on a question.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: that I asked you, and that question was a simple question.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: Do you think that there's some degree of incompetence when
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: you know that you have a serious financial issue affecting
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: your police departments and you weren't even able to put
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: a levy, whatever that amount would be, on the ballot
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: in a timely fashion because you missed the deadline? Would
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: you agree that that is somewhat incompetent?
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 9: Oh, that's incompetence. But, now, tell me when I can
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 9: say but.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: Well, your answer to that question would be yes, without the.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 5: But, correct?
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 11: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Based on the finances that you see, I'm not asking
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: you what you think the millage should be on a
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: police levy. I'm not asking you that. I'm just saying
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: based on what you see... Do you think, from your knowledge,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: that additional funds are needed for the police department in
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: Poland Township?
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  Speaker 11: If they aren't going to make budget changes, they will
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 11: be three-quarters of a million short and will need a levy.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 11: If they make budget changes, which there are a lot
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 11: that I would make, and honestly, I feel like I
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 11: would close that gap with about four or five simple moves.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 11: It would close that gap, not require a budget, and
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 11: the community would be just as safe as it is
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 11: today as it was 10 years ago as it was
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 11: last year.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: What would those budget changes be?
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 11: Number one, I would move the administrator back to part-time.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 11: We have a full-time administrator suddenly that popped in, and
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 11: we don't need a full-time administrator. We never had one before.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 11: They expanded there.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: Do you know what his salary is?
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's like $ 60, 000, $ 70, 000, but he's fully loaded with
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 11: free health care. I mean, there's a lot going on.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 11: If you bump him into part-time, you don't pay the
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 11: health care.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: All right, hold that thought. Hold that thought. Hold that thought.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: I'll come back to you in a minute. Ron Furb
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  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:50:25
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  Speaker 9: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Hello.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 11: So in 2016... All.
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  Speaker 2: Right, so I just want to go back and just
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: cover this. So you don't think you need a full-time
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: administrator at $ 60, 000 or $ 70, 000 with benefits. What else would
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: you change?
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 11: I would change... There's a couple additional positions that are
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 11: kind of redundant. I think one needs removed. That's probably
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 11: another $ 60, 000 plus benefits all in. So you're now at $ 160, 000,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 11: $ 70, 000 fully loaded.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 13: So take $ 750, 000 minus..
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 11: That you're at what five six five six uh what
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  Speaker 11: did i say 160 off of.
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  Speaker 2: 750 i think those numbers might be high if you're
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: 60 000 pay let's just say even with retirement 30
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: 000 or well you'd i think you'd be closer to
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: 90 at 100 at the most not the in my
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: in my opinion so if you take two you'd be at.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 11: 200 000 okay so we got 200 000 there I would,
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 11: in 2016, Poland operated.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't have all day. What were the other
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: four changes? You said there were four?
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 11: I would eliminate four officers. And I would treat the
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 11: remaining ones very well. I would, they all got raises.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 11: They're getting 5% every single year. This year started the
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 11: first five. They get five next year. They get five
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 11: the following year.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 6: We are up from 2016.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 11: We are up and we've increased by six officers.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 11: And our township is just as safe as it was
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 11: in 2016. In 2016, I would say our township was
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 11: one of the safest in the country. It still is
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 11: one of the safest in the country. We added staff
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 11: that we didn't need, and I would shift their hoops around.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 11: We also added a bunch of patrolmen that only want
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 11: to work day shift. that we are so overstacked on
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 11: day shift, and everybody in this community knows they're in
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 11: nothing happening in Poland during the day that you need
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 11: to answer this many people. You don't have this many
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 11: people scheduled. I think you've got a hoops issue.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: What's that? Do you know roughly, and I don't know
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: if you know, how many officers accounting to chief are
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: on the police department?
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I do. So right now, one chief, three sergeants,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 11: 13 patrol officers, two canines, and one secretary.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: Well, forget the secretary. What's the other number is add
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: up to 18.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: So if you have 18, you, you got the chief
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: and of course they don't, you know, they just sit
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: around and, and you have 17 officers and you're saying
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: it really, do you think that you can function with
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: one on a shift or two on a shift? What
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: do you think is ideal?
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 11: You're going to need some. Yeah, I don't know because
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 11: I've got to look at what's the call to shift ratio.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 9: We've got to look at the call to ratio.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 11: But I'm going to tell you what, they did it
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 11: in 2016 with one sergeant, one chief, two sergeants, and
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 11: eight patrol officers.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 11: So if you did it then and we were safe,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 11: then we could do it now. So whatever the reason is.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: In other words, you think that some cuts should be
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: made as far as how many officers, full-time officers, are
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: you assuming they're full-time, not part-time?
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm talking FTE. So I'm looking at full-time equivalent.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 11: I would also make them turn in receipts rather than bills,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 11: save $ 100, 000 as PJ projected right there, another $ 100, 000. I
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 11: think with those moves there, plus this police chief that
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 11: lives in Boardman, that takes his car home to Boardman
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 11: every night, that I guarantee, and if I have to
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 11: do a FOIA request, I will. How many times... as
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 11: he needed to leave his home in Boardman to come
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 11: to an incident in Poland where he responded, not the
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 11: patrolman on duty, where he got out of bed, put
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 11: his shoes on, got in his Poland-paid car. That car
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 11: should go back to the fleet, and one of these
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 11: patrolmen should be driving it, and you could then dump
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 11: the new car that you just bought. Well, there's a
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 11: lot of basic, simple changes you could make. If they
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 11: don't do any of them, they're three-quarters of a million short.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 11: If they do what is common sense, because I don't
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 11: think that that impacts the Poland community whatsoever. Everything that
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 11: I named is common sense. Everything that I said was
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 11: when Poland was completely safe and rated and voted one
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 11: of the best places to live in the state and
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 11: in the country. So tell me where I'm wrong. And
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 11: I would make them participate in their health care plan. One,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 11: it keeps them honest. You don't go to the doctor.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 11: You don't call off and need to get a doctor's
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 11: excuse if you've got to put the money up front.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 11: It just doesn't happen. It saves the taxpayers money because
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 11: you're not going to fake. You're not going to do
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 11: all these things.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 16: Right.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 12: Stand by.
• 1:55:21
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  Speaker 2: I'm now... Sit down.
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  Speaker 11: So here's the breakdown of an officer.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: Okay. So let's say.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 11: There's 60,000... $ 11, 000 to $ 13, 000 is going into their pension.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 24: $ 20, 000.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 11: To $ 28, 000 is their total township paid medical insurance, roughly.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 11: So they're about $ 95, 000 to $ 100, 000 all in is the cost.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 11: So if four of them could be done and you
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 11: would still have more than you did 10 years.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: Ago, I mean, so my question— That's 400 grand right there.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 11: That's $ 750.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: I would just ask you this question just based on
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: your knowledge, and I think you're very knowledgeable. Knowing that
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: a police department is obviously open seven days a week
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: around the clock— And that requires a number of personnel.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, it depends how many you want on a shift,
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: whether you want one at times one or two. And
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: it depends how many you want on a shift and
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: to make sure that you have people that are there
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: so that you can have sick days or vacation days
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: and those shifts will be covered. So do you feel
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: that if you made those cuts, you would have adequate
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: staffing to do that?
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think you could. I think you could, and
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 11: I think you could with not very much overtime. I mean,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 11: you could run a workforce management model that would say, yeah,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 11: two officers on duty around the clock are about, you know,
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 11: 17,000 probably patrol hours.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 5: So..
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, so, but if you have two, four, six on..
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 11: Two on duty.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: Right, right. That would be six a day. And then
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: you have weekends, you know, you have to cover weekends
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: and then you have to cover sick days and vacation days.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: You could figure out the number.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 11: It would be about two a shift every day. And
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 11: you'd have a little bit of flex in there. Where
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 11: maybe one day, and maybe it's your slowest day for calls,
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 11: I'm sure they have all the data, you'd maybe have
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 11: one on that day. But you'd have some movement in there.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: Right. So if you made the cuts that you're saying
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: that you feel you can make, then do you think
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: additional money would be needed?
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 11: No, I think I could hit the 750 number and
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 11: nobody in the township would know the difference that I
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 11: did it.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: Now, again, you may need.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 11: Something later, because later you're going to have a little
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 11: bit of inflation, and that would get you tight, right?
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 11: So I'm thinking..
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, you have to have money available... to fix
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: the cars and replace the cars and do repairs and things.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: Would you not agree with that?
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I do, but this doesn't account for the stupid
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 11: McKinley donation that they did, the pad that they created here.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 11: There's a lot of other... I didn't touch all the
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 11: other craziness that happened in the year. Those things could be...
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 11: Pushed to, yeah, we need this extra money for emergencies
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 11: here and emergencies there. I mean, this is just a
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 11: very high level.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 9: There's fat.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 11: There's fat. And listen, it's not just Poland.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 7: I got news for everybody.
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 3: It's everywhere.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 11: And it's not just the police department. It's everywhere. Here's
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 11: what people don't understand. It sounds great, and I sound
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 11: like the hero when I want to bring on.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: Four new officers. All right, now just hang on. Hang on.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to cut through all the.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 19: Babble.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: No offense. Here's my conclusion. Are you ready?
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 3: Give it.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 2: Are you sure?
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 15: Go ahead.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: You think you can take it?
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 11: Oh, I know I can take it. It doesn't mean
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 11: I changed my mind, but I can take it.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: All right. Based on the questions I asked you and
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: based on the responses that you gave, I think that
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 2: you're probably more competent than the people that are sitting
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: there making the decisions.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 11: Oh, I know.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: Okay. And in all seriousness, I think you're certainly smarter
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: than those people that are your current trustees in Poland.
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind that you have a...
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: a good business. You have an excellent business understanding. And
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: I was, I was impressed with how you answered the questions.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: You didn't avoid the questions you did. You weren't evasive.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: You didn't avoid them. You answered them. Yes or no.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 2: And you didn't try to cover your tracks. You said,
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 2: here's what I would do. And I think that we,
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: we would be just fine. And I think that as,
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 2: as you were talking, I thought, uh, I thought, boy,
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 2: too bad you're not a trustee in Poland Township because
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: I think you're just really smart at this stuff. And unfortunately,
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: in many cases, people get elected and they're not very
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 2: bright at it. I've interviewed politicians. Well, I don't interview
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of them with the exception of Dave Thomas.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: I think he's outstanding. But many of them just are
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 2: not impressive at all. I mean, dare I say... Would
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: you not agree with me that some of these people
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 2: that are in these political offices aren't very bright?
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 11: I would absolutely agree with that. And I would say
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 11: the problem is they double down when they make a
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 11: mistake and they don't own it.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 11: They need to own it and they need to face
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 11: into it. It won't happen again. I'm going to manage
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 11: this tighter. I'm going to seek advice when I don't
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 11: know something.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 2: All right, and you would be honest enough with me,
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 2: I trust, to also acknowledge. I mean, I listened to
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: what you had to say, and I think that you
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: made a great argument, and I would agree with your argument.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 2: But you would agree with me that there are cases,
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: and this isn't one of them, but there are cases
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: when you can't cut your way out of a problem.
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 11: I absolutely agree. A thousand percent.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 9: A thousand percent.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: I just want to emphasize that the idea that you
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: can always cut your way out of a problem isn't
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: always the answer. Sometimes the answer is, no, we can't
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: cut anymore and we do need additional revenue. That is
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 2: not the case.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 15: A thousand.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: That is not the case here.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 5: Agreed.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 3: Agreed.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 11: And I would also say that there are times where
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 11: you can't spend your way out of a problem. And
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 11: I can give you many examples where that exists. You
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 11: cannot spend, and there are the many that you cannot cut.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 2: I would agree with that.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 11: But you've got to be smart enough to know when.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 11: Like Youngstown City Schools, we can't spend our way out
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 11: of the problem that those kids are not coming out educated.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 11: We have dumped from $ 14, 000 a student to $ 17, 000 to $ 22, 000.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 11: You can give them $ 100, 000 a student, you're going to
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 11: get the same outcome. Throwing money at every problem doesn't
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 11: provide a solution. But you need smart people who can
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 11: figure that out.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 2: My conclusion is, to all of this, is just for
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: our listening public, is that this is a shining example
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: of somebody that calls in, that I sit back, and
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: it isn't... I'm not prosecuting her or anything like that,
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 2: but she answered the questions yes or no. She talked
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: about what would you do to remedy this situation and
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 2: had an answer that wouldn't affect services. The only thing...
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 2: I might disagree with her on. The only one thing
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 2: I might disagree with her on is your township administrator
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 2: should probably be full-time with benefits because somebody needs to
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: be there to run the operation on a day-to-day basis.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: And it's easiest to have somebody that's there committed on
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: a full-time basis. Outside of that, I would agree with
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: everything that you said. And I think that you showed
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 2: to the listening public how you have a background in
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 2: running operations and problem-solving and dealing with finances, which puts
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: you far and above the average person sitting as trustees
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: making these type of decisions. So I just leave you
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: with that, and I commend you, my cub reporter.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 11: Sorry. Now, let's see who hated my cub reporting, because
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 11: you know, Ron, I get my R-speed on these little
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 11: cub reporting cells.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: Well, I..
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 11: Well, hey, Ron sent me. Ron, you know..
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 11: I'm going to say, you can't be mad at me.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 11: I mean, I'm just doing my job.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: That's correct. That is correct. But you did excellent analysis. Well,
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: And I just think it shows people that you have
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 2: you have a background in business and in running operations
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: where many of these people have zero background in that.
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 2: And they they're unable to make decisions as you have made.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: And I commend you for it. And I I leave
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 2: you with I leave you with that.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 5: OK.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 3: All right, Ron.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 4: Bye.
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 2: Pretty smart, huh? See, that's what you really want to
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 2: look for. I mean, it's what you want as a
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: commissioner right there. You want as a trustee right there.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 2: I use that as an example. Because when you're done
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 2: listening to her, you say, well, that is a person
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: who probably should be in one of these positions. As
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 2: I said to you before, I would vote for her
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: for commissioner. I would vote for her for trustee. because
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 2: of her background, her knowledge, and her ability to look
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: at that in a brief period of time and come
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 2: up with some suggestions and also agree that there are
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: times you cannot cut yourself out of an issue, out
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: of a problem, and it takes additional revenue because there
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 2: is inflation. You're on the air.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 18: Yeah, so I just want to make a couple points
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 18: about last night's meeting. The fiscal officer said that Thursday,
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 18: this week, he's meeting... put them into fiscal caution. So
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 18: I don't know what cuts. They'll probably have to submit
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 18: a plan to him. This has to happen quick. I mean,
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 18: they might not be able to make payroll in August.
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 18: And it doesn't look like the property tax money from
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 18: where I'm sitting is going to be available to them until,
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 18: I would think, September. Because once they send out those bills, okay,
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 18: the treasurer's office, they give you like three weeks to pay.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 18: So then that comes in. Then you've got to turn around, right,
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 18: and distribute the funds. I mean, I'm thinking September. It's
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 18: already August 5th, and I don't think the bills went
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 18: out yet. So that compounds their problem, the timing of
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 18: all this property tax stuff going on.
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 7: It's a very bad situation.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 18: And I hope they look at people contributing to their
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 18: own health care, because if it's gone up 15% recently,
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 18: it's only going to continue to go up, and so
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 18: you're just going to keep eating away at your money
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 18: with your benefits. I mean, that's something they really need
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 18: to look at. You know, why should the taxpayer be
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 18: funding them 100%? That doesn't make any sense. And I
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 18: agree with the city administrator has to go to part-time
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 18: because that's what it always was before. This is a
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 18: very small township. You know, it's like between 14,000 and
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 18: 15,000 people live here. So I don't see why you
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 18: need a full-time person. And as far as the chief
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 18: of police, I mean, he could get in a car
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 18: and he could take a shift during the day. I mean,
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 18: all hands on deck when you're in a financial emergency.
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 18: So that's what's going on. The fiscal officer is very mild-mannered.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 18: He's a numbers guy.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 2: He's just– Well, that's what you want. That's exactly what
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: you want.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 3: Well, it is.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 18: But the thing is, is when he says things, nobody
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 18: listens to him, I think, because of his personality.
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 2: Well, no.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 18: They just don't pay attention.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 2: Well, it's obvious they didn't listen because look at the
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: mess they're in. But do they want to take accountability
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 2: for it? It doesn't sound like it.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 8: No.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 2: No. You know, that's right. And let's be realistic. As
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 2: Truman said, the buck stops there because I don't give
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: a crap about any of the bull crap you want
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 2: to say. You're the trustee. The buck stops with you.
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 2: You're at the top of the pyramid. And if you
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: made these unwise decisions and you did this without any future,
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: any insider planning, then you are to blame.
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, the Tahoe they bought last, I think
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 18: it was in June, they had said at the other
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 18: meeting that it was $ 75, 000. But last night they corrected
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 18: it and said it would actually cost them $ 53, 000. So
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 18: that is a little correction that I wanted to make
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 18: sure I said because they kind of said different things
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 18: at different meetings. So I don't know if they're going
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 18: to keep that or what they're going to do. But, yeah,
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 18: I think it's all hands on deck when you're in
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 18: this kind of financial situation.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 2: Did you agree with most of what the boss lady
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: had to say about it?
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 6: Yes, I did.
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: Would you sit back and say to yourself, there's somebody
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 2: that should be in a position of trustee or commissioner?
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 7: Oh, I think, yeah, sure.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 18: Trustee, I think that's a good place to start. I mean,
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 18: you know, that's definitely going to have an impact, right?
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I say it, you know, I don't want to
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 2: embarrass her. I say it because she's smart. I mean,
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 2: I'm tired of... of just people who have no financial
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 2: savvy or no understanding in positions, and they usually do nothing,
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 2: and they don't operate in a taxpayer's best interest or
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: efficiency's best interest. It is not an endless pit of money.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: We are at a breaking point with tax dollars and
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: with property taxes, and things could change rapidly here. But
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 2: we are at a breaking point, and we're there because
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: of so many idiots that make these decisions who think
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: it's an endless pot of money that they can take
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 2: from you. And I'm sick and tired of it.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 7: And look what just happened.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 18: I mean, you know, now we have this little blip
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 18: because all of a sudden you're not getting your money
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 18: as you usually would, which is usually– End of July.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 4: You got it.
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 18: Now it might be four or five weeks later. So
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 18: they're really in a bad shape, I would say.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: Thanks for your call, and thanks for.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 5: All you do.
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 15: I really mean it.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: You're on the air.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 8: Ronald.
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 2: Ted the Conservative.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 7: I had to call in after listening to your last
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 7: two calls.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 7: Because I think the tip of the cap to her
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 7: for what she does.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 2: I think all she does is so admirable. I mean,
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 2: the amount of hours of her free time that she
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 2: has dedicated to gathering these signatures. And this area shines
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 2: more than any other area because of her. She is
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 2: truly one of a kind.
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 7: Imagine living your life like you and I do. We
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 7: live our normal life. We do everything we do. We
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 7: know what consumes our time in the day. And then
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 7: put everything she does on top of that.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 5: Like, you know..
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 7: That woman needs to be recognized for her efforts.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 2: That is correct.
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 7: And then the boss lady, I want to give the
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 7: boss lady an eye, Captain. You should have rang the
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 7: bell or something for her. You should have did something
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 7: special after that phone call. She's spot on. You know,
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 7: you could disagree. You could have different political opinions. You
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 7: could disagree on issues. But you can't argue facts.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 5: And..
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 7: She comes well-prepared. She's not a dumb woman. She's a
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 7: very intelligent woman, knows what she's talking about. And, you know,
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 7: if she was a Poland Township trustee, we wouldn't be
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 7: reading about the things we're reading about right now because
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 7: she would have solved the problem six months ago.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: I believe that to be true, and I believe the
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: problem would have been looked at. You wouldn't have been
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: in this scenario otherwise. Not six months ago. I don't
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: think you would have been in this scenario. At all.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 2: Maybe you should tell.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 7: The boss lady to run for township trustee.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 2: You can tell she has a business background. She's a
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 2: smart woman.
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 4: She's not a dumb woman.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: No, she's not. She's got a business background. She's very articulate,
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  Speaker 2: very intelligent. And she talks about... I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: get into specifics with her business background.
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  Speaker 7: She knows what she's talking about.
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  Speaker 5: She's well-informed.
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  Speaker 12: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But, I mean, in the past, she's talked about things,
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  Speaker 2: operations that she's been in charge of, and you can tell.
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  Speaker 7: She understands how an organization should run.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 7: You know, the other thing is, it's unfortunate to hear
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  Speaker 7: what Denise said, and even what The boss lady had
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  Speaker 7: hinted to in the past about the fiscal officer. It
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  Speaker 7: sounds like he knows what he's doing, but no one's
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  Speaker 7: paying him any attention. To be honest with you, local
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  Speaker 7: government finances are like an elementary education. You start in
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 7: elementary school, you go to high school, then you go
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  Speaker 7: to college. Well, at the lowest level is public finance
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  Speaker 7: at a township or city level.
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  Speaker 5: Very simple math.
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  Speaker 7: Very simple math.
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  Speaker 2: That's correct.
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  Speaker 7: You have certain funds that come in that can only
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  Speaker 7: be used for certain things. whether it's wastewater, whether it's
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  Speaker 7: your public water service.
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  Speaker 2: Stand by, Ted. Stand by for a minute. Ron Ferb
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  Speaker 2: from the kingdom of Mahoning on NewsRadio 570 WKBN at 552.
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  Speaker 13: If you run a business, be in.
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  Speaker 2: Ron Ferb at 555. Rain in my neck of the
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  Speaker 2: woods here, 76 degrees on a Wednesday afternoon. Yes, go
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  Speaker 2: ahead with your thoughts.
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  Speaker 7: The last thing I'll add to this, because the boss lady,
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  Speaker 7: she nailed everything. On top of what she said, I
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  Speaker 7: would just add this. According to her, if I understood
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  Speaker 7: her correctly, and I think I did, she said they've
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  Speaker 7: been knowingly deficit spending for quite some time. For some reason,
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  Speaker 7: they had this chunk of money they were sitting on,
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  Speaker 7: and they were using that to supplement the general fund.
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  Speaker 7: So they knew this was coming. They knew that a
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  Speaker 7: day was coming. That's like driving your car knowing you
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  Speaker 7: need new brakes. Do you wait before your brakes fail
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  Speaker 7: and you get in an accident, or do you get
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  Speaker 7: the brakes before you.
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  Speaker 5: Have an accident?
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  Speaker 7: These guys sat on their hands and did nothing. This
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  Speaker 7: train was coming at them for six, seven, eight months
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  Speaker 7: this year. They knew it was coming, and they didn't
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  Speaker 7: do anything. That's what's concerning, that you have to have
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  Speaker 7: people like the boss lady do the work that she's
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  Speaker 7: doing so the truth can get out there. Because if
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  Speaker 7: you listen on Yarrow, I still don't understand his position.
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  Speaker 7: One time he says everything's fine, then he says there's
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  Speaker 7: only a $ 1, 600 deficit to be addressed. So every time
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  Speaker 7: he speaks, it seems as though he gives a different answer.
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  Speaker 7: So maybe he doesn't understand the financial situation. But what
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  Speaker 7: the boss lady said, that wasn't very hard to follow,
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  Speaker 7: was it?
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  Speaker 2: No, but she's got a gift of looking at things
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  Speaker 2: financially from her business background and explaining them so that
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  Speaker 2: you can understand them. And that is a gift. All
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking for in any type of political position is
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  Speaker 2: somebody that I can respect with know-how, with intelligence. And
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  Speaker 2: I've said it before, whether that's– I have a world
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  Speaker 2: of respect for Dave Thomas. And why? Because he was
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  Speaker 2: an auditor that saw the effect of property taxes when
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: he was doing that in Ashtabula County and knew the
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  Speaker 2: only way he could change it or fix it was
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  Speaker 2: to run a state rep. He ran a state rep,
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  Speaker 2: and guess what? He's doing everything that he can do
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  Speaker 2: to fix it. You follow me? He didn't say it.
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  Speaker 2: He's following through on it. And he knows it, and
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  Speaker 2: he's smart at it. I think that there are many people,
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  Speaker 2: as I've said before, that are smart at these issues
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  Speaker 2: that should be in these political offices. But I also
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  Speaker 2: believe the system, for whatever God only knows reason, would
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  Speaker 2: try to do everything they could do to try to
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  Speaker 2: stop them or derail them because they would be operating
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  Speaker 2: in your best interest as far as efficiency and tax
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  Speaker 2: dollars are concerned. A lot of these people that are
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 2: in these positions are not doing that. And just because,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're just not good at it. And first
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  Speaker 2: of all, you have to– she obviously is working for
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  Speaker 2: business at a larger level. I get tired of these
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  Speaker 2: people saying, well, I'm a businessman. Well, if you're a
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  Speaker 2: small businessman, you're not a businessman like Sam Covelli's a businessman.
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  Speaker 2: You follow me? Right, right. I mean there's a big
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  Speaker 2: difference between Joe Bagadonis with some small business or whatever
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  Speaker 2: and Covelli or running an operation like obviously she has done.
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  Speaker 2: And I think you've got to acknowledge that.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And it's concerning. You know, Poland is what you consider
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  Speaker 7: a quote-unquote bedroom community. Very little commercial base, very little
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  Speaker 7: to any crime, probably other than domestic. Maybe once in
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  Speaker 7: a while they've got a robbery. So why has the
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  Speaker 7: police force grown so much?
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 7: Why have they added so many officers? So she brought
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  Speaker 7: a lot of good issues to the surface, and hopefully
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  Speaker 7: maybe some of those will get addressed. But I thought
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  Speaker 7: she deserved an eye cap.
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  Speaker 2: And I agree. Thank you, Ted. Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 7: And you deserve an eye cap.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. The news is coming up next, followed by
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  Speaker 2: the Guardians on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. Ron Furman, Kingdom of Mourning.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate you tuning in as always. Keep it here on
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