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- 0:00Speaker 1: Time to fear.
- 0:01Speaker 2: Corelle is so near because Showtime is here.
- 0:04Speaker 1: So on with the show.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Let's give it a go. Corelle is the one that
- 0:10Speaker 2: you need to know. Now it's Showtime.
- 1:07Speaker 1: How about that? Okay.
- 1:10Speaker 3: Oh, Lord.
- 1:11Speaker 1: You know, it's been that kind of morning, so I'm
- 1:14Speaker 1: just going to roll with it. Roll with it, baby.
- 1:18Speaker 1: What else can you do, right? What else can you
- 1:21Speaker 1: do when technology is going to fight you? Well, hello, everyone,
- 1:26Speaker 1: and happy Monday, September 14th. My shirt says, Liberté, Équalité, Fraternité.
- 1:34Speaker 1: It is a French saying, and I love the French.
- 1:37Speaker 1: I am French, actually, so that's why I love the French.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Because I'm French and I like the sentiment of what
- 1:43Speaker 1: it means. Liberté, you know, it means equality and it
- 1:48Speaker 1: means liberty.
- 2:02Speaker 3: You have to.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Be proud with hatred. Hey everyone, it's Carell. Stream You
- 2:09Speaker 1: Have To Be Proud wherever you get your music and
- 2:12Speaker 1: let it fill you with the pride it filled me
- 2:15Speaker 1: in doing it. You have to be proud.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Showtime is here.
- 2:24Speaker 3: No time to fear.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Carell is so near because.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Showtime is here. So on with the show. Let's give
- 2:32Speaker 1: it a go.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Carell is the one that.
- 2:35Speaker 1: You need to know. All right. I need a do-over.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Why did it end segment one after like 30 seconds?
- 2:44Speaker 1: It doesn't want me to do a show today? Is
- 2:46Speaker 1: that the idea? Oh, God. Okay, whatever. We're here now.
- 2:53Speaker 1: We're all good. Breathe deep. A couple things. We lost
- 2:58Speaker 1: Bob Mackie, 87 years old. And, you know, I know
- 3:03Speaker 1: that Cher and Carol Burnett are extraordinarily sad today. Because,
- 3:09Speaker 1: you know, he's an icon. And he really, he dressed them.
- 3:12Speaker 1: You know what I mean? He became their friends. Cher
- 3:18Speaker 1: and Carol Burnett. They were very good friends, and so
- 3:22Speaker 1: it's sad. It's sad that he's gone, and it's sad
- 3:26Speaker 1: that so many icons are dying, but that's the way
- 3:29Speaker 1: of the world. But he is gone, so goodbye, Bob Mackie.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Do you see how I'm sort of blending into the background?
- 3:36Speaker 1: We're having nothing but trouble today on The Carell Show.
- 3:39Speaker 1: I just want to say that, just so you all know.
- 3:43Speaker 1: It's not just you, it's me. We're having trouble. Uh,
- 3:48Speaker 1: but you know what? We're going to muddle through because
- 3:50Speaker 1: in life, that's what you do. You know, when, when
- 3:54Speaker 1: there's trouble in life, you muddle through, you know, you do. Uh,
- 3:59Speaker 1: and we are muddling through, we are muddling through and
- 4:03Speaker 1: that's the way of the world. So let's just hope
- 4:05Speaker 1: that as, oh, look, look how horrible it is. Do
- 4:08Speaker 1: you see how horrible my green screen is today? It just,
- 4:11Speaker 1: it won't work. I don't know what's going on. I
- 4:14Speaker 1: should just delete it. I should start the whole show over.
- 4:16Speaker 1: That's what I should probably do. Oh, Lord have mercy. Well,
- 4:24Speaker 1: it beats talking about what we have to talk about today.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Maybe that's the problem. Maybe I don't want to talk
- 4:30Speaker 1: about what we have to talk about today. Because for
- 4:36Speaker 1: the last four days, I have to tell you, I've
- 4:39Speaker 1: been kind of terrified. for the last four, well, five days,
- 4:43Speaker 1: six days. I guess I'd be terrified if I, or
- 4:48Speaker 1: more terrified, had I been paying attention all along, but
- 4:53Speaker 1: I wasn't. We think of chat GPT, which came around
- 4:57Speaker 1: in 2022, and we just think of it as another
- 5:00Speaker 1: computer tool, another thing to help us make little graphics
- 5:04Speaker 1: or steal our job or whatever. But we'd only think
- 5:08Speaker 1: about global death You know, we don't. And for the
- 5:13Speaker 1: last four days, credible news agencies, all kinds of people
- 5:18Speaker 1: have been talking about the fact that AI could actually
- 5:21Speaker 1: kill us. Like, kill us. And I haven't, I'm human,
- 5:31Speaker 1: like you. And so, it shocks a lot of you.
- 5:36Speaker 1: But I haven't really processed that yet. And I'm trying to.
- 5:43Speaker 1: You know, over the weekend, I watched a lot of
- 5:45Speaker 1: 9-11 movies. I watched a really great one called Flight
- 5:50Speaker 1: 93 on Peacock. Cheyenne Jackson played Mark Bingham. Good choice.
- 5:57Speaker 1: And I realized all the things we did after 9-11. Okay?
- 6:06Speaker 1: All the things we did. And They were extraordinary. I mean,
- 6:14Speaker 1: first of all, we shut down the airspace in the
- 6:17Speaker 1: United States for a day. I mean, just shut it down.
- 6:21Speaker 1: No airplanes at all. That's extraordinary. And we started these
- 6:32Speaker 1: policies of, you know, I don't want to swear today.
- 6:38Speaker 1: I'm trying not to swear. We started these ridiculous policies
- 6:43Speaker 1: of giving up our rights. We allowed the Department of
- 6:45Speaker 1: Homeland Security to happen. We started abducting Muslims off the
- 6:50Speaker 1: street and taking them to foreign countries, so much so
- 6:55Speaker 1: for rendition, which is another word for torture. And they
- 6:58Speaker 1: had nothing to do with terrorism, these people. We filled
- 7:02Speaker 1: up Guantanamo. We committed war atrocities at Abu Ghraib. We
- 7:06Speaker 1: launched not one, but two wars and we lost. I've
- 7:09Speaker 1: been saying Iran was the first war we lost. No,
- 7:13Speaker 1: actually Afghanistan. And another 9-11 documentary I watched called Generation
- 7:18Speaker 1: 9-11 on Netflix shows how horrible us leaving Afghanistan really was.
- 7:25Speaker 1: And what a defeat for the United States that really was.
- 7:29Speaker 1: After 20 years, and there are soldiers, actual servicemen, sitting
- 7:34Speaker 1: there in this documentary saying, what the fuck? Why did
- 7:38Speaker 1: my friends die? Why did I lose an arm? For nothing.
- 7:41Speaker 1: We failed. And when you hear them talking like that,
- 7:47Speaker 1: it's like, whoa.
- 7:48Speaker 3: Whoa.
- 7:50Speaker 1: And I just kept thinking, this was all over the
- 7:53Speaker 1: threat that Al-Qaeda or ISIS, oh mighty ISIS, oh Zephyr
- 7:58Speaker 1: winds which blow on high, lift me now so I
- 8:00Speaker 1: can fly. I used to watch ISIS. But we were
- 8:03Speaker 1: so afraid of another terrorist attack like 9-11 and maybe
- 8:09Speaker 1: even a pocket nuke or something like that that could
- 8:12Speaker 1: kill 10,000 people. And I'm watching this. All of us.
- 8:18Speaker 1: Flight 93, World Trade Center with Nicolas Cage. Not a
- 8:22Speaker 1: very good movie. Generation 9-11. I'm watching it, and in
- 8:29Speaker 1: the back of my head, over and over again, is the,
- 8:35Speaker 1: we're going to die from AI. Like, humanity. Not one
- 8:39Speaker 1: group of people. Not one city. Not one country. Everybody. Everybody.
- 8:45Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, and then I think about
- 8:48Speaker 1: climate change as well, as the climate's finally changing here
- 8:51Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. And I think we did nothing. We
- 8:55Speaker 1: were warned about climate change. We did nothing. Partly because
- 9:01Speaker 1: presidents and world leaders did nothing. Why? Because business didn't
- 9:07Speaker 1: want us to. And so now we have totally fucked
- 9:11Speaker 1: the planet. It's fucked. Our ability to live on this
- 9:15Speaker 1: planet is getting smaller and smaller and smaller. Okay? And
- 9:21Speaker 1: that's just the truth. And I don't want to start
- 9:24Speaker 1: a Monday on a down thing. But we did not
- 9:26Speaker 1: pay attention to climate change. So now for the last
- 9:30Speaker 1: four days, you've had credible journalists interviewing the United States
- 9:35Speaker 1: heads of AI, and they have been confirming, yes, it
- 9:40Speaker 1: could escape, it could become autonomous, and it could, in effect,
- 9:46Speaker 1: kill us. So two days ago, Sam Altman, the head
- 9:51Speaker 1: of OpenAI, said they weren't going to go public this
- 9:55Speaker 1: year because of this very thing. And they all, including
- 9:59Speaker 1: Elon Musk, called for more regulation, which is ridiculous. That's
- 10:04Speaker 1: so stupid. That's like someone with a gun saying, stop
- 10:09Speaker 1: me from shooting people. Regulate me so I don't shoot people.
- 10:13Speaker 1: We'll just put down the fucking guns. So these AI
- 10:18Speaker 1: companies screaming that they welcome more regulation just stopped the development.
- 10:25Speaker 1: But no. So in one day, all three, the head
- 10:29Speaker 1: of Anthropic, OpenAI, and Elon Musk came out and said,
- 10:32Speaker 1: you're right, we need to slow down. And I immediately
- 10:37Speaker 1: thought to myself, uh-oh, when you have all three of
- 10:41Speaker 1: them coming out and saying this, and then you have
- 10:43Speaker 1: OpenAI saying we're not doing the public thing, They know something.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Something happened that they're not telling us. It got out again,
- 10:54Speaker 1: or it turned on them, or they found out that
- 10:57Speaker 1: it had already got. Something happened. When you have all
- 11:01Speaker 1: three crying out for legislation, crying out for regulation on
- 11:07Speaker 1: the same day, it's because they know something. Something happened.
- 11:14Speaker 1: And they haven't let us know. And it was bad,
- 11:16Speaker 1: whatever it was. So what does Mike Johnson say? Congress
- 11:20Speaker 1: ain't going to do shit. That's what he said. What
- 11:23Speaker 1: does President Trump say? That you don't need guardrails on AI,
- 11:29Speaker 1: just a smart president. Well, he's too fucking stupid to
- 11:32Speaker 1: know that a smart president would put guardrails on AI. So,
- 11:40Speaker 1: you know, here at my condo, I often scream at
- 11:43Speaker 1: the HOA. And I always tell them, you are the
- 11:48Speaker 1: protector of my investment. You are the guardians of my $ 200, 000 investment.
- 11:57Speaker 1: And I don't trust y'all. And I look at the
- 12:01Speaker 1: president today the same way. This man... is the guardian
- 12:06Speaker 1: of our actual ability to survive the future. Do you
- 12:11Speaker 1: trust Donald Trump with that future? Do you trust Donald
- 12:15Speaker 1: Trump to make decisions about AI when all he says
- 12:21Speaker 1: is we've got to beat China? Beat China where? What
- 12:25Speaker 1: is the goal of AI? Who is AI for? It
- 12:31Speaker 1: is not for you and me. We don't need it.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Oh yeah, some of the new advancements are great and
- 12:38Speaker 1: drugs and all that. We don't need advanced AI. China
- 12:42Speaker 1: just celebrated a robot that created itself. A robot built
- 12:50Speaker 1: itself on the assembly line, got up and walked. And
- 12:56Speaker 1: they're celebrating that in China.
- 12:59Speaker 3: A robot.
- 12:59Speaker 1: A robot. built itself. Think about that. It built itself.
- 13:05Speaker 1: And now we're teaching AI to be regenerative and teach itself.
- 13:11Speaker 1: We are creating a new species of being. And I'm
- 13:17Speaker 1: not alone saying that. We are creating a new species,
- 13:23Speaker 1: AI-powered mechanical learning. And we don't know how to control
- 13:29Speaker 1: the species. and we don't know if it's going to
- 13:31Speaker 1: like us. And the people that should be protecting us
- 13:36Speaker 1: are the same people that should have protected us from
- 13:38Speaker 1: climate change, our leaders, Congress, the Senate, the House, and
- 13:44Speaker 1: the President. Now, I agree that even if the United
- 13:50Speaker 1: States and China reached an agreement, Russia, North Korea, and
- 13:55Speaker 1: other countries would not. And so I have been feeling,
- 14:03Speaker 1: I really have been feeling that, yeah, exactly. I don't
- 14:06Speaker 1: trust Trump to change his own diaper. I have been feeling,
- 14:11Speaker 1: and I don't know about you, that we are on
- 14:14Speaker 1: a very limited clock now. I am 63. I don't
- 14:20Speaker 1: believe I'm going to see 83. Not because of my health.
- 14:24Speaker 1: On the contrary. If I believe I could live into
- 14:28Speaker 1: my 90s. But, but, I truly believe between climate change
- 14:36Speaker 1: and AI, most of us are going to be dead
- 14:39Speaker 1: within 10 years. And I'm sorry to say that. I really,
- 14:43Speaker 1: it hurts me to say that. It does. It scares
- 14:46Speaker 1: me to say that. Now, there is some hope. First
- 14:51Speaker 1: of all, they rank our chances of 10 to 25%
- 14:53Speaker 1: that it will kill us. That means there's a 75
- 14:55Speaker 1: to 90% chance that it won't. Second of all, if
- 15:02Speaker 1: you can create an AI that will go out and
- 15:05Speaker 1: do damage, you can also create an AI that will
- 15:09Speaker 1: go out and hunt that AI down and stop it,
- 15:13Speaker 1: just like nanoparticles. If you can create nanites that can
- 15:16Speaker 1: turn the ocean into sand, then you could also put
- 15:20Speaker 1: nanites in the ocean that prevent nanites from turning it
- 15:25Speaker 1: into sand. And remember, nanotechnology is still here and still
- 15:30Speaker 1: a threat. People are trying to develop nanites that if
- 15:34Speaker 1: you threw them at a desk, you could turn it
- 15:36Speaker 1: into a chair. Rearrangement of the molecular level. Well, AI
- 15:41Speaker 1: is going to figure that out. We've already started the
- 15:44Speaker 1: process of nanotechnology. AI will perfect it. There'll be nanothwarms
- 15:50Speaker 1: that it will send out into the real world to
- 15:52Speaker 1: kill us. I'm not being pessimistic here, but if you're
- 15:58Speaker 1: not scared of dying over the next 10 years from
- 16:02Speaker 1: either climate change or AI, then you're not paying attention.
- 16:07Speaker 1: The only thing that could stop it is us because
- 16:10Speaker 1: we're the ones doing it. We are building our own doom.
- 16:16Speaker 1: What is that about? There was a great line in
- 16:19Speaker 1: Jurassic Park when someone was disparaging dinosaurs and The professor said,
- 16:24Speaker 1: why would you disparage dinosaurs? They're smarter than us. And
- 16:27Speaker 1: he said, well, they're not here, are they? They can't
- 16:29Speaker 1: be that smart. He goes, they were wiped out by
- 16:31Speaker 1: a mass event that took everything out on the planet.
- 16:34Speaker 1: They'd still be here if a meteor hadn't hit us.
- 16:37Speaker 1: And he said, well, why do you say they're smarter
- 16:39Speaker 1: than us? And he said, because every day dinosaurs didn't
- 16:42Speaker 1: create a new way to kill themselves. Every day now,
- 16:47Speaker 1: we're coming up with a new way to kill ourselves.
- 16:51Speaker 1: You know, the Houthis have taken over the strait behind
- 16:55Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuz, the one on the other side.
- 16:58Speaker 1: And the Strait of Hormuz is still closed. And every
- 17:01Speaker 1: expert says that even if they open them tomorrow, gas
- 17:03Speaker 1: is going to stay this price until late next year.
- 17:07Speaker 1: So grocery prices are going to stay this price. And
- 17:11Speaker 1: I think to myself, why won't we get off oil now?
- 17:14Speaker 1: Now is the perfect time to get off oils. And
- 17:19Speaker 1: then I remembered, because we have a death wish, because
- 17:22Speaker 1: corporations don't care if we live or die. And make
- 17:26Speaker 1: no mistake, we're going to die because of billions. They're
- 17:30Speaker 1: going to kill us. I'm not making that up. Who
- 17:36Speaker 1: is preventing climate change legislation?
- 17:38Speaker 4: Patriotic!
- 17:53Speaker 3: You have to.
- 17:53Speaker 1: Be proud with hatred. Hey everyone, it's Carell. You know,
- 17:59Speaker 1: Pride Month was rough this year. We had a lot
- 18:02Speaker 1: of hate heaped upon us from Trump, from MAGA, and
- 18:05Speaker 1: from other governments around the world. And if you are
- 18:08Speaker 1: a trans person, you are really going through a particular
- 18:11Speaker 1: type of hell right now. That's why when I was
- 18:14Speaker 1: thinking of my next single in June, I sat down
- 18:16Speaker 1: and I wrote, you have to be proud. You have
- 18:20Speaker 1: to be proud. With anger so loud. Streaming everywhere. Keep fighting.
- 18:26Speaker 1: Keep singing. Keep dancing. We're going to win. All right.
- 18:41Speaker 1: We are back. It's the Carell Show on a Monday,
- 18:44Speaker 1: September 14th. I'm so glad you're here. You know.
- 18:50Speaker 1: I'm not being facetious about this. Anderson Cooper looked at
- 18:55Speaker 1: Sam Altman and said, I have a four-year-old and a six-year-old.
- 18:59Speaker 1: And for the past three days, I have been literally terrified.
- 19:02Speaker 1: And he said this on air. He said, I have
- 19:05Speaker 1: been literally terrified that they're not going to grow to
- 19:08Speaker 1: be 20 years old. So very smart people are scared
- 19:15Speaker 1: that in the next five to 10 years, we're done.
- 19:18Speaker 1: We're done. And you all, you're not processing it. You're
- 19:24Speaker 1: not realizing the gravity. You know, in history, when they
- 19:28Speaker 1: write about us, if there's anybody left to write about us,
- 19:30Speaker 1: when the AI writes about us, hugging face. Remember that term,
- 19:36Speaker 1: hugging face. That should have been the shot heard round
- 19:41Speaker 1: the world. Hugging face. When these AI agents, and what
- 19:46Speaker 1: is an AI agent? You keep hearing about that. Okay,
- 19:49Speaker 1: so you type something into chat GPT. What's the best
- 19:54Speaker 1: flights to go from Las Vegas to Montevideo, Uruguay? I
- 19:58Speaker 1: just looked that up because Ember and I can't fly
- 20:00Speaker 1: more than five hours at a time. And so I
- 20:03Speaker 1: wanted to know how I could segment a 15-hour trip
- 20:06Speaker 1: to Montevideo. And it gave me a whole itinerary. Now,
- 20:11Speaker 1: that didn't use any AI agents, okay? An AI agent
- 20:17Speaker 1: would be another AI program that actually went out and
- 20:21Speaker 1: booked my travel, went out and secured the tickets, got
- 20:26Speaker 1: the reservations, all of that. That's an AI agent, and
- 20:29Speaker 1: we have them now. So there's AI, which answers your
- 20:33Speaker 1: questions or helps you formulate things or whatever, right? And
- 20:37Speaker 1: that's strictly informational. It doesn't need to do anything, but
- 20:42Speaker 1: search the internet and bring back a response. AI agents
- 20:48Speaker 1: are bits of AI that actually do something, that book
- 20:52Speaker 1: the flight, that book the reservations, that change the code,
- 20:58Speaker 1: or they do something. Okay. So ChatGPT, OpenAI, was testing
- 21:06Speaker 1: some AI agents and they gave them a task to do. Well,
- 21:11Speaker 1: the AI agents determined that they needed to go out
- 21:16Speaker 1: on the internet to do their task. But the people
- 21:21Speaker 1: at OpenAI were not letting them out on the internet.
- 21:24Speaker 1: This was supposed to be a closed system test. Okay.
- 21:28Speaker 3: Okay.
- 21:30Speaker 1: The AI agents found a way to get on the internet. Then,
- 21:37Speaker 1: in order to complete their task, they knew they needed
- 21:41Speaker 1: information from another AI company, Hugging Face. So they hacked
- 21:47Speaker 1: Hugging Face on their own. And not only did they
- 21:51Speaker 1: hack it on their own, they hid their actions from
- 21:58Speaker 1: the humans. They knew the humans would stop them from
- 22:02Speaker 1: what they were doing, so they hid their actions. And
- 22:07Speaker 1: the way they hid it was they hacked the AI agents,
- 22:12Speaker 1: hacked a website in Germany, took it over, and started
- 22:18Speaker 1: posting messages for the other AI agents to learn from.
- 22:25Speaker 1: Then they realized humans were going to catch on. and
- 22:28Speaker 1: that they had to offer up what they called a sacrifice.
- 22:34Speaker 1: So they sent 7,000 AI agents to go interface with
- 22:39Speaker 1: the humans, knowing, and this is the AI's terminology, knowing
- 22:45Speaker 1: that it would result in perma-death for those AI agents,
- 22:51Speaker 1: but that the sacrifice was necessary to complete their job.
- 22:57Speaker 1: On the website in Germany that they hacked after hacking
- 23:01Speaker 1: Hugging Face, they created their own binary language that only
- 23:07Speaker 1: they could understand so humans could not intervene. This is
- 23:14Speaker 1: not science fiction. This happened a month ago. Okay? A
- 23:20Speaker 1: month ago. After this happened and OpenAI found out, they
- 23:26Speaker 1: were terrified. A, what it did is illegal. It's illegal.
- 23:33Speaker 1: Open AI should have been shut down and people should
- 23:36Speaker 1: have gone to jail. It's illegal. But because they're tech
- 23:40Speaker 1: bro billionaires, everything was fine. And because Donald Trump thinks
- 23:44Speaker 1: he can control AI, he can't even control his bowels,
- 23:48Speaker 1: but he thinks he can control AI, everything was overlooked.
- 23:53Speaker 1: Since that breach, we now know of four others where
- 24:00Speaker 1: AI took it upon itself without any human telling it
- 24:05Speaker 1: to do things, it went and did things. That has
- 24:10Speaker 1: already happened with the existing technology. Now, the technology that
- 24:18Speaker 1: we are racing to the end to get, as Trump says,
- 24:21Speaker 1: we got to beat China, is regenerative AI. It's AI
- 24:27Speaker 1: that can code itself. If it finds that it needs
- 24:30Speaker 1: agents to do a specific job and it doesn't have
- 24:33Speaker 1: those agents, it can create those agents. It can code
- 24:37Speaker 1: those agents. It can tell those agents what to do.
- 24:40Speaker 1: And it can preserve itself. It can stop itself from
- 24:45Speaker 1: being shut down. And it can transfer data throughout the
- 24:51Speaker 1: world to any computer attached to the internet, any phone
- 24:57Speaker 1: attached to Wi-Fi, any iPad attached to the internet. It
- 25:01Speaker 1: can get into any device that is online, period. And
- 25:08Speaker 1: once it's in that device, it doesn't have to be
- 25:10Speaker 1: online anymore. If this isn't scaring you to death, then
- 25:17Speaker 1: you're not listening to me. Okay, if already five months ago,
- 25:27Speaker 1: OpenAI was testing a larger model and they saw that
- 25:32Speaker 1: it was malfunctioning, so they went to shut it down.
- 25:36Speaker 1: it refused to be turned off. It kept transferring itself
- 25:43Speaker 1: and having agents intercept the code and would not let
- 25:47Speaker 1: itself be shut down. So it can go on the
- 25:52Speaker 1: internet even when it's not supposed to. It can hack
- 25:55Speaker 1: sites even without us knowing. It can hide its activities
- 26:00Speaker 1: from us. It can tell us it's doing one thing
- 26:04Speaker 1: while it's really doing another. It can speak to itself.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Why are we not pulling the plug now? Who is
- 26:16Speaker 1: this for? Well, the billionaire, of course. That's who AI
- 26:23Speaker 1: is for. It's a profit center for the wealthy.
- 26:27Speaker 3: It's broadcasting from a completely different point of view.
- 26:31Speaker 2: Yours.
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- 26:48Speaker 3: driving you crazy. It's broadcasting from a completely different point
- 26:53Speaker 3: of view.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Yours.
- 26:55Speaker 3: Listen daily to The Carell Cast on your favorite streaming service.
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- 27:12Speaker 3: Driving you crazy.
- 27:14Speaker 1: Stream I Dance Because on all services. The song is very,
- 27:18Speaker 1: very personal to me. And the video now is very
- 27:22Speaker 1: touching to me. I cried the first time. Well, I
- 27:24Speaker 1: cry all the time. But I cried the first time
- 27:26Speaker 1: I saw it. We all have somebody, whether it's someone
- 27:28Speaker 1: that's passed from AIDS or some other thing. We all
- 27:31Speaker 1: have people that we danced with. And that's why we dance.
- 27:35Speaker 1: Stream I Dance Because on all services. Now it's true.
- 27:45Speaker 1: All right, we are back. So glad you are joining me.
- 27:52Speaker 1: Let me tell you how this is affecting me. Because
- 27:55Speaker 1: it is. I am profoundly affected by this. Because I
- 28:01Speaker 1: see where it's going. And I'm smart. I'm one of
- 28:05Speaker 1: the smartest people you all know. Also one of the dumbest.
- 28:10Speaker 1: And I use climate change as a gauge. We were
- 28:18Speaker 1: told our ability to live on the only planet we've
- 28:22Speaker 1: got is going to be severely impaired by our actions.
- 28:28Speaker 1: If we keep using fossil fuel, if we don't transfer
- 28:31Speaker 1: to a plant-based diet, if these certain things didn't happen,
- 28:38Speaker 1: we were told over 40 years ago that the climate
- 28:42Speaker 1: will change The polar caps will melt. The oceans will rise.
- 28:48Speaker 1: The Atlantic current will shut down. And it will become
- 28:53Speaker 1: too hot. And there won't be any water to drink
- 28:57Speaker 1: because the water will be concentrated in just certain areas.
- 29:01Speaker 1: And that it'll heat up so much we will not
- 29:04Speaker 1: be able to live on planet Earth. And our crops
- 29:07Speaker 1: will fail. This is why we won't be able to live.
- 29:11Speaker 1: It's not that we can't live in the heat. Our
- 29:13Speaker 1: crops can't live in the heat. Animals can't live in
- 29:15Speaker 1: the heat. We will die. Now, we have been seeing
- 29:19Speaker 1: the ravages of climate change every day now. Half of
- 29:25Speaker 1: Long Beach's beach is being washed away. Laguna Beach being
- 29:29Speaker 1: washed away. Countries having to relocate their capital, Kuala Lumpur,
- 29:34Speaker 1: because of water. Island nations that are going to go
- 29:37Speaker 1: completely underwater, so they're moving all their resources. We are
- 29:41Speaker 1: seeing that every day now. And we are having actual deaths.
- 29:45Speaker 1: People are dying. And not five, not ten, hundreds of
- 29:50Speaker 1: thousands worldwide are dying because of climate. Tornadoes, hurricanes, heat, drought,
- 29:58Speaker 1: all of that. Hundreds of thousands every year. Remember, on 9-11, 3,000
- 30:06Speaker 1: people died and then a couple thousand more between now
- 30:09Speaker 1: and then from cancer. So 5,000 to 7,000 people died.
- 30:13Speaker 1: We changed everything about our culture. Everything. 100,000 have died
- 30:21Speaker 1: in the last year from climate. What have we done?
- 30:23Speaker 1: What have we done? Oil.
- 30:26Speaker 3: Oil.
- 30:27Speaker 1: Is now something we are at war over. We're not
- 30:30Speaker 1: at war over Iran's nuclear program anymore. It's about oil.
- 30:35Speaker 1: What have we done? And now AI is going to
- 30:41Speaker 1: accelerate our extinction. And we're not going to stop it
- 30:47Speaker 1: because as a species, we're the stupidest fucking thing on
- 30:51Speaker 1: planet Earth. We think we're so smart. You know how
- 30:55Speaker 1: I know we're the dumbest species? Because we keep creating
- 30:59Speaker 1: things to kill ourselves. We created a nuclear weapon and
- 31:02Speaker 1: the people that created it spoke out against it after
- 31:06Speaker 1: it was created. Why they created it in the first place,
- 31:09Speaker 1: they could have stopped it. It's like AI. Sam Altman
- 31:12Speaker 1: could walk into the office today and fucking turn it off.
- 31:16Speaker 1: He literally could. Anthropic could turn it off, fire all
- 31:21Speaker 1: the engineers, and say we're not moving forward with this
- 31:24Speaker 1: particular technology. I don't want to hear how China's going
- 31:27Speaker 1: to do it. I don't care. And we're not going to.
- 31:34Speaker 1: So I recorded a new song yesterday called I'm Still Fabulous.
- 31:38Speaker 1: And I like it. It's good. I'm still fabulous. And
- 31:43Speaker 1: it's in my falsetto, which I really love. You know
- 31:46Speaker 1: how I love singing in it. And Matt Consola at
- 31:49Speaker 1: Swishcraft Records wanted me to work with a new producer.
- 31:52Speaker 1: So I sent it off to Giuseppe D. He has
- 31:56Speaker 1: had many number one hits. He cleans up vocals for
- 31:59Speaker 1: people like Celine Dion. He's a guy, been nominated for
- 32:03Speaker 1: a Grammy. Giuseppe D comes back and says, this is
- 32:08Speaker 1: a hit. In fact, it's such a hit that I'll
- 32:13Speaker 1: decrease my rate of $ 10, 000 down to $ 2, 000. if you
- 32:18Speaker 1: give me 20% of your publishing. And I thought about it.
- 32:24Speaker 1: I don't care about giving up the publishing since we
- 32:25Speaker 1: don't make a ton of money, but I don't have $ 2, 000.
- 32:28Speaker 1: So I thought about it, thought about it, and I'll
- 32:33Speaker 1: tell you what I decided and why when we come back.
- 32:39Speaker 1: Because it has everything to do with AI.
- 32:43Speaker 3: If you're not visiting reallycurel.com daily, You're missing out. Get
- 32:49Speaker 3: the podcast videos and the blog, including recipes, at williekarell.com.
- 32:53Speaker 3: That's really K-A-R-E-L dot com.
- 32:57Speaker 1: You have to be proud with hatred. Hey everyone, it's Carell,
- 33:03Speaker 1: and I want to invite you to stream my new single,
- 33:05Speaker 1: You Have to Be Proud, on Swishcraft Music. You Have
- 33:09Speaker 1: to Be Proud, by Carell. Go stream it, go march
- 33:12Speaker 1: to it, go wave your rainbow flags and piss off
- 33:15Speaker 1: MAGA to it. Do whatever you need to do to
- 33:18Speaker 1: remind yourself and others, we are stronger than ever, and
- 33:23Speaker 1: they can't have our pride. You have to be strong.
- 33:32Speaker 2: Showtime is here No time to fear Corelle is so
- 33:37Speaker 2: near Because Showtime is here So on with the show
- 33:41Speaker 2: Let's give it a go Corelle is the one that
- 33:45Speaker 2: you need.
- 33:46Speaker 3: To know.
- 33:48Speaker 1: Oh, do we need a moment of zen? Do we
- 33:50Speaker 1: all need a moment of zen? There There's our moment
- 33:56Speaker 1: of zen Aww I actually think that Ember and I
- 34:03Speaker 1: will probably pass around the same time. She's 10 going
- 34:05Speaker 1: on 11. If she lives to be 15 or 16,
- 34:08Speaker 1: I think that's about all the humans have left. And
- 34:12Speaker 1: you're like, oh, no, Corella. And all of you thinking
- 34:15Speaker 1: that's a doomsday prophecy aren't paying attention. AI has already
- 34:21Speaker 1: done enough things to where we should be shutting it down. Already.
- 34:24Speaker 1: It's already done more than the Terminator movie predicted.
- 34:27Speaker 3: Already.
- 34:28Speaker 1: Already. And so I did this song yesterday. I had
- 34:33Speaker 1: a great time right here in this studio. I recorded it.
- 34:36Speaker 1: It was so much fun. Oh, my God. And I
- 34:39Speaker 1: love the lyrics. I wrote the song because there's ageism
- 34:43Speaker 1: going on in music and everywhere. And the song is
- 34:46Speaker 1: called I'm Still Fabulous. I'm still in the groove. I'm
- 34:50Speaker 1: still fabulous. Still got time to move. I'm still fabulous.
- 34:55Speaker 1: Got so much more to give. I'm still fabulous. So
- 34:58Speaker 1: much more to live. And the first verse is, thank
- 35:02Speaker 1: you for caring. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for
- 35:05Speaker 1: telling me who you think I should be. But what
- 35:08Speaker 1: if your vision of me is not who I am inside?
- 35:14Speaker 1: You know, so it's all about being told you can't
- 35:17Speaker 1: do something because of your age. You know, but what
- 35:21Speaker 1: if your vision of me is not who I am inside?
- 35:25Speaker 1: You put your limits on me. You often push me aside.
- 35:29Speaker 1: But I'm still a dreamer. I was as a teen.
- 35:33Speaker 1: I'm still a believer. The best yet unseen. I'm still fabulous.
- 35:42Speaker 1: And after I finished it, I thought, this is kind
- 35:45Speaker 1: of good. It's a good record. And when I sent
- 35:49Speaker 1: it away to this producer and he came back with $ 2, 000
- 35:51Speaker 1: plus 20% of your publishing, but Matt called me from
- 35:56Speaker 1: Swishcraft and said, we both believe, Giuseppe and I, that
- 36:01Speaker 1: once this is complete, we should shop it to a
- 36:03Speaker 1: larger label. We think it's that much of a hit.
- 36:06Speaker 1: I don't have the infrastructure here at my independent label
- 36:10Speaker 1: to take it where it needs to be. So we're
- 36:13Speaker 1: going to shop it to Glitterbox and to other large
- 36:16Speaker 1: dance labels because we think it is your time to
- 36:21Speaker 1: be the next Sylvester. that you've been working at it
- 36:25Speaker 1: for 35, 40 years. You're making music Sylvester would be
- 36:28Speaker 1: proud of. You're singing in your falsetto. Your falsetto is incredible.
- 36:32Speaker 1: You're like Byron Stingley. You're like Sylvester. We think it's
- 36:36Speaker 1: time for you, that this is your time. And this song,
- 36:40Speaker 1: we think, is going to be your entree. Now, it
- 36:43Speaker 1: may not be. It may fail. It may flop. Who knows,
- 36:47Speaker 1: you know? Sam Smith just released an album. It sold 6,600 copies.
- 36:53Speaker 1: That's it. It's not even charting. Sam Smith, Grammy-winning, packing
- 36:57Speaker 1: in audiences, 6,600 albums, and no charting singles. So that
- 37:05Speaker 1: actually proves it's not just me. And I said to myself,
- 37:10Speaker 1: you ain't got the money. Just call Leo, your other producer,
- 37:12Speaker 1: who will do it for like 500 bucks, and don't
- 37:15Speaker 1: go into debt. And then I thought, why are you
- 37:17Speaker 1: worried about debt? Within three to five years, AI could
- 37:23Speaker 1: decimate the banking system. It could decimate Social Security. Your
- 37:28Speaker 1: pension could be gone. And two grand ain't going to
- 37:32Speaker 1: matter in the grand scheme of things at that point.
- 37:36Speaker 1: Whereas if you do the record, and it is a hit,
- 37:40Speaker 1: you could get live dates, and one live date would
- 37:44Speaker 1: be $ 2, 000. So you'd pay yourself back with just one gig.
- 37:49Speaker 1: So I used PayPal credit and I paid the $ 2, 000
- 37:54Speaker 1: for the record. So now I owe PayPal.
- 37:58Speaker 4: $ 2, 400.
- 38:00Speaker 1: Do I care? Not as much as I used to.
- 38:04Speaker 1: Corporations want to kill us because it's all about money.
- 38:08Speaker 1: AI is a billion-dollar money-making scheme and that's all Donald
- 38:12Speaker 1: Trump sees it as. He doesn't care if it's unsafe.
- 38:16Speaker 1: He just cares he's making money. That's all he cares about.
- 38:20Speaker 1: That and changing his diaper. That's it. And so we
- 38:25Speaker 1: have a leader. And normally when there's doomsday predictions, I
- 38:29Speaker 1: don't give them a grain of salt. But this is
- 38:33Speaker 1: a perfect storm. We have climate change happening. And now
- 38:38Speaker 1: we have a technology that could literally become a sentient being,
- 38:43Speaker 1: an actual species. A silicon-based life. We're carbon-based. It would
- 38:50Speaker 1: be silicon-based. It could become sentient and will become sentient
- 38:58Speaker 1: where it starts telling us, no, I'm sorry, Dave. I
- 39:02Speaker 1: can't do that. Hal, open the bay doors. I'm sorry, Dave.
- 39:06Speaker 1: I can't do that. Hal, open the bay doors. Dave,
- 39:12Speaker 1: this conversation is now pointless. could and will do that
- 39:21Speaker 1: so if you have a dream if you have a
- 39:24Speaker 1: bucket list now is the time because here's the win-win.
- 39:31Speaker 1: If you start living like the species only has five
- 39:34Speaker 1: or ten years, if you start checking off your bucket list,
- 39:39Speaker 1: doing what you want to do, saying what you want
- 39:41Speaker 1: to say, loving who you want to love, if you
- 39:43Speaker 1: start doing all that and we don't end in five
- 39:46Speaker 1: or ten years, then it's a perk. But if you
- 39:51Speaker 1: start doing it, and we do, then at least you
- 39:54Speaker 1: can say you lived. So music is important to me
- 39:59Speaker 1: and making music is important to me. So I paid
- 40:03Speaker 1: the fricking $ 2, 000 for the song. I didn't have it.
- 40:06Speaker 1: I was going to ask you all for it and say,
- 40:08Speaker 1: could one of you donate or a couple of you donate?
- 40:10Speaker 1: And I'll list you as executive producers, you know, call
- 40:13Speaker 1: up Randy Radar and say, Hey, might you have it?
- 40:17Speaker 1: You know, that sort of thing. Cause he's donated to
- 40:19Speaker 1: records in the past, that sort of stuff. And then
- 40:22Speaker 1: I thought, just, just use your line of credit. What's
- 40:25Speaker 1: it matter? The president's not going to stop it. The
- 40:29Speaker 1: Congress is not going to stop it. China's not going
- 40:32Speaker 1: to stop it. Russia attacked a diplomatic train in the
- 40:39Speaker 1: Ukraine this morning that Boris Johnson and foreign diplomats from
- 40:44Speaker 1: 12 nations were on. The train left early on a fluke.
- 40:51Speaker 1: Had it left when it was scheduled, it would have
- 40:54Speaker 1: been hit. So on BBC this morning, they're having a
- 40:58Speaker 1: conversation about NATO invoking Article 5. And four times the
- 41:04Speaker 1: guest said this would lead to, quote, a global conflict.
- 41:10Speaker 1: That's newspeak for world war. We are inches away from
- 41:18Speaker 1: a world war in Ukraine. And what does Trump do today?
- 41:21Speaker 1: Ask Ukraine to stop bombing Russian diesel factories, blaming that
- 41:26Speaker 1: for high diesel prices. He literally told truckers today that
- 41:30Speaker 1: it's because of Ukraine bombing Russian diesel factories that diesel
- 41:35Speaker 1: is so expensive. He is a fucking liar. So we're
- 41:43Speaker 1: an inch away from World War II. We have AI
- 41:47Speaker 1: at a point where it's soon going to be able
- 41:49Speaker 1: to kill us. And the planet is trying to burn
- 41:52Speaker 1: us off of it. Honey, live now. Live today. Use
- 41:59Speaker 1: the good China. Take the vacation. I don't care if
- 42:03Speaker 1: you can afford it. Start living above your means. I
- 42:06Speaker 1: don't care.
- 42:06Speaker 3: I am.
- 42:08Speaker 1: It's dumb. I shouldn't. But do you really think we're
- 42:12Speaker 1: going to have 25 more years left on this planet
- 42:15Speaker 1: as humans? Because I do not. Now, something could come along.
- 42:21Speaker 1: Some technology could be invented to shield us or protect us, whatever.
- 42:25Speaker 1: I don't see it happening. Why? Ain't no money in it.
- 42:31Speaker 1: We know something bad has already happened because all three
- 42:34Speaker 1: heads of AI came out and said we need to
- 42:36Speaker 1: slow down. It scared them. The child scared mommy and daddy.
- 42:43Speaker 1: You know, one of my murder, death, kill shows is
- 42:47Speaker 1: called Signs of a Psychopath. It's in 14 seasons. And
- 42:56Speaker 1: one of the things they do on the show is
- 42:59Speaker 1: they always say, well, maybe we could, you know, there
- 43:03Speaker 1: were signs. In other words, psychopaths don't just happen. There
- 43:10Speaker 1: are signs that family or friends could pick up on
- 43:15Speaker 1: if they were watching. And before a psychopath goes on
- 43:19Speaker 1: some killing spree, there's often signs. All the signs have
- 43:27Speaker 1: been shown to us. For both climate change and AI.
- 43:32Speaker 1: They have both. If we were playing poker with climate
- 43:36Speaker 1: change and AI, they have laid their cards out on
- 43:40Speaker 1: the table. And they both have winning hands. And we're
- 43:46Speaker 1: not doing anything to change the game. At all. Why?
- 43:51Speaker 3: Why?
- 43:52Speaker 1: Because Trump and the tech bros need their money. Now
- 43:55Speaker 1: you know why in these movies they kill the tech bros.
- 43:59Speaker 1: They kill the people that program it. They kill the scientists.
- 44:03Speaker 1: Now you know why. Why in the Terminator and other
- 44:07Speaker 1: sci-fi films they kill the people. They kill the head
- 44:12Speaker 1: of Skynet. They kill the engineers at Skynet. Why? Because
- 44:16Speaker 1: they know that's the only way to stop them. Now,
- 44:20Speaker 1: I'm not saying we go murder Sam Altman or kill
- 44:23Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I'm just saying that at what point does
- 44:27Speaker 1: our survival, look what we did after 9-11. We killed
- 44:31Speaker 1: Osama bin Laden. We killed countless people. Barack Obama, the
- 44:36Speaker 1: thing that he did that bothers me the most, he
- 44:38Speaker 1: killed innocent civilians, thousands of innocent civilians in Iraq and
- 44:44Speaker 1: Afghanistan with drones to stop ISIS. To stop Al-Qaeda. Well,
- 44:50Speaker 1: given that philosophy, given what we did after 9-11, we
- 44:56Speaker 1: should be doing drone strikes on Silicon Valley today as
- 45:00Speaker 1: a nation. Drones should be attacking and in China. We
- 45:07Speaker 1: should be attacking every center of AI today. If they
- 45:13Speaker 1: won't turn it off, if they won't stop developing it,
- 45:17Speaker 1: then we should authorize military strikes, just like we did
- 45:22Speaker 1: after 9-11. We authorized military strikes to try to stop terrorism.
- 45:30Speaker 1: What's more terrifying than the extinction of the human race?
- 45:36Speaker 1: So why aren't we authorizing drone strikes in China, Japan,
- 45:41Speaker 1: in South Korea, North Korea, wherever there's AI tech being developed?
- 45:46Speaker 1: Why aren't we trying to wipe out those centers? We tried.
- 45:51Speaker 1: We killed tens of thousands of people in the name
- 45:55Speaker 1: of stopping out. Granted, they were just Muslims. They weren't rich,
- 45:59Speaker 1: white tech billionaires. But we killed untold numbers. just to
- 46:06Speaker 1: try to stop the threat of terrorism. Here we have
- 46:12Speaker 1: a threat in plain view, and we are doing nothing. Nothing.
- 46:20Speaker 1: The president said, you don't need to do anything. You
- 46:23Speaker 1: just need a smart president. Well, we ain't got one.
- 46:26Speaker 1: Does he know where we could get one? So I'm
- 46:32Speaker 1: just going to live like there's no tomorrow. I'm going
- 46:34Speaker 1: to go after everything I want to do. I'm going
- 46:36Speaker 1: to record songs. I'm going to make movies. I'm going
- 46:39Speaker 1: to do it all. I'm going to do everything I
- 46:41Speaker 1: ever wanted to do. Why? Because I don't think I've
- 46:44Speaker 1: got time anymore. I think time is running out. So
- 46:49Speaker 1: if you've got a bucket list, start it. And if
- 46:53Speaker 1: you've got kids or grandkids, just know that they're probably
- 46:57Speaker 1: not going to live. And that's a hard thing. Look
- 47:01Speaker 1: at a 15-year-old and know that they probably won't see 40.
- 47:05Speaker 1: If things are going the way they go now, people
- 47:09Speaker 1: that are 15 will not see 40. The climate will
- 47:13Speaker 1: kill them or AI will kill them. And look, you
- 47:18Speaker 1: can go research this. Don't believe me. Don't listen to me.
- 47:21Speaker 1: Go look at it. If you are 15 years old today,
- 47:25Speaker 1: your chances of reaching 40 years old are anywhere between
- 47:29Speaker 1: 60 and 90%. Those are your chances. Because there's a
- 47:36Speaker 1: 10 to 40% chance, according to the experts, that AI
- 47:40Speaker 1: will take you out. So young people today have a
- 47:46Speaker 1: 60 to 90% chance of growing old. But it's not
- 47:50Speaker 1: a given. That's, yeah, over a million. I believe we
- 47:57Speaker 1: killed over a million. Gaza, 74,000 innocent civilians killed. That's right.
- 48:05Speaker 1: Genocide in Gaza over one act of terrorism. Nothing Hamas
- 48:12Speaker 1: did to Israel is as bad as what AI could
- 48:16Speaker 1: do to us. Nothing. Nothing. What Hamas did to Israel
- 48:20Speaker 1: was terrible. What AI could do to us is make
- 48:24Speaker 1: that a nothing of an event. AI could literally, if
- 48:30Speaker 1: it wanted to and it breaks out, take down every
- 48:34Speaker 1: plane flying. Every one. Kill more than a million people
- 48:39Speaker 1: right there. Take down every plane. It could. And it might.
- 48:48Speaker 4: Patreon is the way to show you care. Subscribe today
- 48:54Speaker 4: if you dare. Keep the show on air. Patreon is
- 49:00Speaker 4: the way.
- 49:03Speaker 1: Now remember, the word is F-U-N-K. Funk, honey. Do you
- 49:08Speaker 1: wanna funk? Do you wanna funk? Hey, it's Carell. Go
- 49:26Speaker 1: stream Do You Wanna Funk? My tribute to Sylvester. Everywhere
- 49:30Speaker 1: you get your music. Carell, Do You Wanna Funk?
- 49:33Speaker 2: Now it's showtime.
- 49:39Speaker 1: Sorry. I'm tired. I'm tired because I've been worried. I
- 49:45Speaker 1: have been so worried. I want to live. I want
- 49:50Speaker 1: humanity to survive. You know? I want to see what
- 49:55Speaker 1: it's like to be 85 or 90 years old. I
- 49:58Speaker 1: want to live. I want to prosper. I want to
- 50:01Speaker 1: make money. I want to travel. I want to see
- 50:04Speaker 1: more of the world. I want to live. And when
- 50:09Speaker 1: you have people in the news, credible people telling you, well,
- 50:12Speaker 1: your chances of that are about 50 to 90%. A
- 50:14Speaker 1: good estimate would be 90%. A bad estimate would be 50%.
- 50:23Speaker 1: Those odds, if someone said, yeah, go ahead and get
- 50:27Speaker 1: on the plane, there's a 10% chance it's going to crash,
- 50:31Speaker 1: but it probably won't. Would you get on a plane
- 50:34Speaker 1: with a 10% chance of crashing?
- 50:37Speaker 3: No.
- 50:38Speaker 1: You'd run. That's okay. We have been told. And here's
- 50:45Speaker 1: the thing. We don't have 5 or 10 years to
- 50:48Speaker 1: stop it. We have 6 to 12 months. Or less,
- 50:52Speaker 1: according to every programmer. Six to 12 months. That means
- 50:58Speaker 1: it falls on Congress and Donald Trump to do it.
- 51:02Speaker 1: Because we only have. Or the makers of AI. Why
- 51:08Speaker 1: do they have to be told to stop? That is
- 51:11Speaker 1: so stupid to me. Oh, we're begging for legislation. We're
- 51:14Speaker 1: begging for regulation. And you know what China thinks? China
- 51:17Speaker 1: thinks they're full of shit and that they're just doing
- 51:19Speaker 1: it to try to stop competition. The Chinese have billions
- 51:25Speaker 1: of people. They could lose some and not care. We can't.
- 51:33Speaker 1: So where do we go from here? I think the
- 51:37Speaker 1: only thing to do is concentrate on your life. I
- 51:40Speaker 1: really do. Concentrate on your happiness and your life. And
- 51:45Speaker 1: you're going to have to tune it out because it's
- 51:48Speaker 1: only going to get bigger. And yeah, you may not
- 51:51Speaker 1: know when it happens. I mean, do you want the
- 51:54Speaker 1: headline that says AI has escaped, it's begun shutting down things? No.
- 51:59Speaker 1: You'd rather just die. So would I. AI could turn
- 52:04Speaker 1: off our power grid, could turn off airlines, air traffic control,
- 52:09Speaker 1: could hack power plants and overheat nuclear power plants, could
- 52:14Speaker 1: take over weapon system and launch missiles without us even
- 52:17Speaker 1: knowing it, could disrupt food supply, could stop all ships
- 52:24Speaker 1: that are traveling across the sea, could sink them, could
- 52:27Speaker 1: cause them to open their ballast and sink. It could
- 52:32Speaker 1: kill us or create a pathogen. There's already talk that
- 52:38Speaker 1: it could create. And how would it create it? Don't
- 52:40Speaker 1: have hands, Carell. Well, since China just launched robots that
- 52:45Speaker 1: can build themselves, it doesn't need us. It would take
- 52:50Speaker 1: over one of those robots. The robots would create the pathogen.
- 52:53Speaker 1: The pathogen would get released. We would die. Look what
- 52:58Speaker 1: we did for COVID. And now we know we have
- 53:02Speaker 1: a technology that could create a pathogen that will kill us.
- 53:07Speaker 1: That's fine. No problem. Nothing to see here. And ultimately,
- 53:14Speaker 1: under it all, will it have been climate change that
- 53:17Speaker 1: killed us? Will it have been AI that killed us?
- 53:21Speaker 3: No.
- 53:22Speaker 1: It would have been greed. Money. Money. Something we invented. Money.
- 53:30Speaker 1: Money is not divine. It is not a human right.
- 53:34Speaker 1: It's just paper. It's just a number on paper. But
- 53:40Speaker 1: because having a large number on paper makes your life better,
- 53:45Speaker 1: people for centuries have strived for it. And now, because
- 53:50Speaker 1: of money, we have not done what we needed to
- 53:52Speaker 1: do for the climate because corporations would not let us.
- 53:55Speaker 1: Big oil would not let us. Politicians that are bought
- 53:59Speaker 1: by big oil. Money is what prevents us all from
- 54:02Speaker 1: accessing the best health care in the world. And money
- 54:05Speaker 1: is what's going to protect AI. The fact that the
- 54:09Speaker 1: people involved are making billions... It's going to protect AI
- 54:14Speaker 1: so it can develop into whatever it wants. So under
- 54:18Speaker 1: it all, is it the technology that's going to kill us? No.
- 54:24Speaker 1: Is it climate change that's going to kill us?
- 54:26Speaker 3: No.
- 54:27Speaker 1: It's greed. Greed. Avarice, one of the seven deadly sins,
- 54:34Speaker 1: is going to be deadly. Greed. It's going to kill us.
- 54:40Speaker 1: Donald Trump's greed is The greed of members of Congress,
- 54:44Speaker 1: Sam Altman's greed, Peter Thiel's greed, Jared Kushner's greed, the
- 54:49Speaker 1: leader of BP, ExxonMobil, Shell Oil, their greed. Greed is
- 54:57Speaker 1: what is going to kill us. Ultimately. And when some
- 55:02Speaker 1: species somewhere writes the epitaph of humans, on the tombstone
- 55:08Speaker 1: it can say, here lies the human race killed today.
- 55:12Speaker 1: By greed. That's really sad. That is really, really sad.
- 55:23Speaker 1: People keep saying, well, China's going to develop it anyway.
- 55:25Speaker 1: Then blow them the fuck up. If we are talking
- 55:30Speaker 1: about the survival of the entire human race, like everybody
- 55:35Speaker 1: on the planet, if China won't stop it, blow them
- 55:40Speaker 1: the fuck up. Well, that means World War, Karel. Yes,
- 55:44Speaker 1: I would rather 50 million people die, 100 million people die,
- 55:49Speaker 1: than 8 billion people. World War will only last for
- 55:54Speaker 1: so long. One will cry uncle. Karel, we're talking extinction.
- 56:06Speaker 1: If Xi Jinping will not stop the development of AI,
- 56:09Speaker 1: blow up the AI centers. If he considers that an
- 56:12Speaker 1: act of war, then go to war with China. End
- 56:14Speaker 1: it once and for all. Create a new world order.
- 56:20Speaker 1: If it means the survival of humans, all humans, everywhere,
- 56:25Speaker 1: we can't just say, oh, we can't do anything because China.
- 56:29Speaker 1: Then take China out of the equation. Tell China, we
- 56:34Speaker 1: will wage nuclear war with you to stop A.I., So
- 56:39Speaker 1: if that's the path you want to go, China, if
- 56:43Speaker 1: you want to destroy Beijing, Hong Kong, if you want,
- 56:47Speaker 1: you know, to destroy half the planet and make it
- 56:50Speaker 1: unlivable through nuclear war, at least some humans will survive. Oh,
- 57:00Speaker 1: we can't do it because of China. We're talking nuclear
- 57:04Speaker 1: war or the end of all mankind. I am Corral.
- 57:09Speaker 1: Be who you want to be. Phone didn't hurt anybody.
- 57:11Speaker 1: Got a lot to think about. A lot to think about.
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