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108 Dogman Attacks Police Officer’s Car After Puppy Discovery | True Cryptid Horror · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Well, welcome back to the I Jupiter Podcast, Episode one
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  Speaker 1: eight with a good friend of mine. Now listen to
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  Speaker 1: Bruce Brown. He actually told me the first time he
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  Speaker 1: ever came on the podcast was with me, Bruce from
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  Speaker 1: the butt of my heart, buddy. I'm very honored by that.
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  Speaker 1: So Bruce, you know, he came on one episode and
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  Speaker 1: he talked about some of his big foot encounters. And
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  Speaker 1: then he came on Alive and he talked about his
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  Speaker 1: some of his He told me very specifically some of
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  Speaker 1: his encounters while on duty. And this time he came back,
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  Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, he told me about one of his
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  Speaker 1: maybe a couple of his dog man experiences. He found
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  Speaker 1: one of them in the woods. A puppy seeing him
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  Speaker 1: walk around for a bit, touched it, and then this
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  Speaker 1: thing attacked him and followed up. You have to listen
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  Speaker 1: enjoy the return of my good friend, mister Bruce Brown.
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  Speaker 2: Glad to be back.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that you're here, man, I'm glad that you finally.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was a month and a half ago
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  Speaker 1: or about a month ago since you had that awful cold.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, you offered to come back on after this
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  Speaker 1: incredible live show that we have, which I'm sure we
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  Speaker 1: could do another one, just on the paranormal things that
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  Speaker 1: you dealt with while serving law enforcement. And I was
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  Speaker 1: unaware that you even you knew anything about dog Man
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  Speaker 1: or had any encounters with dog Man and you were like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I do. And now you're here, Man, so you know
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  Speaker 1: howard is you want to go into it? Tell people
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  Speaker 1: about yourself one more time. This movie the first time
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  Speaker 1: they've seen you. Let's go ahead and go through that,
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  Speaker 1: and then we just go into it however you want to. Man,
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  Speaker 1: you know what you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: Buddy, all right. Your name is Bruce Brown. Former law
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  Speaker 2: enforcement officer, patrol many pretty sure, sergeant, sergeant and patrol detective.
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  Speaker 2: Cheap and narcotics. That's pretty much all I am. I
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  Speaker 2: get out and do a little. We'll do a little,
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  Speaker 2: do quite a bit of investigations. I go to the woods.
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  Speaker 2: I deal with some paranormal things. My biggest thing is
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  Speaker 2: Bigfoot and dog Man. I'm going to share something tonight
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  Speaker 2: with y'all that nobody has shared. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm not the only one to encounter this,
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  Speaker 2: but I guess they have the reasons for not exposing this.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll get into it a little, good little start.
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  Speaker 2: At the beginning of it, went into the woods gensing hunting,
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  Speaker 2: and after I was there four or five hours and
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  Speaker 2: several miles deep into the mountains, and I hunt mostly
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  Speaker 2: off of the Warriors Path that runs through Tennessee is
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  Speaker 2: ancient Warriors Road, caves, Indian mounds such as stuff things
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  Speaker 2: like that scattered. The mountain ranges are deep, most of
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  Speaker 2: them have springs and small creeks running through them. I'm
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  Speaker 2: down there jensing hunting. It's extremely hot, burning up, so
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  Speaker 2: I go down to the creek or to cool aw
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  Speaker 2: and I see these little rolled up balls of clay
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  Speaker 2: mud outside of the softball. So I'm intrigued. I'm walking
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  Speaker 2: up and down and trying to figure out what we
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  Speaker 2: do that we're in the middle of nowhere, or I am.
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  Speaker 2: And I get up to a little pool of water
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  Speaker 2: that's probably knee deep, and then the bottom of it
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  Speaker 2: is bare footprints, just not bear bear, but barefoot footprints,
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  Speaker 2: other words, a small bigfoot. So I'm observing that. I
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  Speaker 2: try to get a picture of it, but my camera
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  Speaker 2: doesn't take in the water too good, so I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: get a good picture of it. So I decided to
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  Speaker 2: leave it alone and come back a couple of days
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  Speaker 2: later and check it. So I did. I got I
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  Speaker 2: got down to the woods bright that daylight, waiting for
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  Speaker 2: the sun to raise high enough to shine down in
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  Speaker 2: the hollers there. And while I was down there, I
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  Speaker 2: encountered a cryptid that was coming down the spring or
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  Speaker 2: creek to where I was sitting at a big rock.
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  Speaker 2: It's a huge rock, and I watched him for a
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  Speaker 2: few minutes through the through the brush. He was hard
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  Speaker 2: to see. But when he stepped out, Now this is
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  Speaker 2: the first I've never heard of this before, and I
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  Speaker 2: have seen it. I'm sure other people have seen it.
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  Speaker 2: This was a dog man, but he was hairless. He
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  Speaker 2: had no hair on him, So you're looking at a
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  Speaker 2: a flesh creature that has flesh like us, but no hair,
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  Speaker 2: no hair on him anywhere. So I stayed still on
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  Speaker 2: that rock and watched him, observed him for a good
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  Speaker 2: three to four minutes before he spotted me. And then
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  Speaker 2: he eases up the hill to go around me. And
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  Speaker 2: as he's going up the hill to go around me,
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  Speaker 2: he stops at a tree and just stands there. And
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  Speaker 2: I can't get a picture because at that time, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the leaves are still on the trees pretty heavy. I
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  Speaker 2: can catch glimpses of him. So that's when I decided
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  Speaker 2: it was time for me to go on down the holler.
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  Speaker 2: And come across, and I went on down the hallow
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  Speaker 2: actually two hollers over and started digging, gensaying. And then
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  Speaker 2: when I got ready to come out later that evening,
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  Speaker 2: I run across him again and it was a big
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  Speaker 2: male he's probably six and a half foot tall, haireless.
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  Speaker 2: Again he had the red glowing eyes, which again is
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  Speaker 2: unusual for being out in the daytime to see red
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  Speaker 2: glowing eyes. And then I made my way back out
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  Speaker 2: to the to the vehicle and left. And then I
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  Speaker 2: had went back a few days later to a different
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  Speaker 2: part of the same area, and I was again looking
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  Speaker 2: around there same time, gensing, hunting, and watching for these things.
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  Speaker 2: And I caught crumb across the h a creature coming
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  Speaker 2: down a vine, a big grape vine by the size
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  Speaker 2: of your wrist, coming out of a tree. So I
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  Speaker 2: just watched it. As it got so far down, I
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  Speaker 2: eased up to it because it wasn't no bigger than
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  Speaker 2: fifteen downs, and I had a I was watching it,
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  Speaker 2: so I got closer and closer to it, and I
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  Speaker 2: took my had a pair of gloves in my pocket.
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  Speaker 2: I pulled it one of the gloves out instead of
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  Speaker 2: putting it on, I just held it up to it
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  Speaker 2: as it was coming down the bine to see if
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  Speaker 2: it would bite it. It didn't, so I reached up
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  Speaker 2: and touched it. It didn't do anything but look at me.
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  Speaker 2: So I picked it up and sat down on the
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  Speaker 2: ground there and was petingent trying to figure out exactly
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  Speaker 2: what it was. You know, I'm in the middle of nowhere.
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  Speaker 2: What's a dog pup doing down in here? So I'm
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  Speaker 2: as I'm looking at it, checking it out. I opened
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  Speaker 2: I pulled up the side of its gums, and I
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  Speaker 2: know it's extremely long canines, very unusual. And as I'm
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  Speaker 2: noticing that he shuts his mouth back. When he shuts
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  Speaker 2: his mouth back, I still got a hold of his
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  Speaker 2: one side of his gum, and I see the bottom
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  Speaker 2: teeth that looked like tusts that bit up in a
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  Speaker 2: pocket in his mouth ut on the outside of his gums. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So I looked around to the other side. It was
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  Speaker 2: the same way, well was I was sitting there petting
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  Speaker 2: he was just a fur ball. He had no hair
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  Speaker 2: on him. I was sitting there petty might notice that
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  Speaker 2: his tail was gone. It was about a three inch
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  Speaker 2: snub and it was blood bloody. So uh, wondering what
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  Speaker 2: happened to it, looked at it. I don't know where
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  Speaker 2: he got it bit off, h cut off or in
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  Speaker 2: a accident or something and just lost his tail. And
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  Speaker 2: so his paws were extremely large. So I took and
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  Speaker 2: pulled the fur back from his eyes and looked at
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  Speaker 2: his eyes, and he had glass eyes. They were just
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  Speaker 2: clear like glass marbles, extremely clear. There's no pupils, nothing
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  Speaker 2: in there.
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  Speaker 1: And the.
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  Speaker 2: That was that was a little disturbing to me. But
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  Speaker 2: after checking him out, he will get him. Uh. He
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  Speaker 2: wasn't what you'd call friendly, like a pup jumping around
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  Speaker 2: and carrying on. He was just laid back. So then
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  Speaker 2: I watched, uh, watch the movements and stuff. And when
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  Speaker 2: he when I set him down out of my lap
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  Speaker 2: onto the path there, it looked like a deer path,
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  Speaker 2: but it was too wide for a deer path that
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  Speaker 2: his front legs from his elbows his pad touched the
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  Speaker 2: ground when he walked. So messing with him for another
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  Speaker 2: four or five minutes, I decided I better put him
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  Speaker 2: back on the line. There's a mama somewhere, So I
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  Speaker 2: put him back on the vine. And as soon as
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  Speaker 2: I set him on the vine, his claws retracted and
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  Speaker 2: he grabbed ald of vine just started slowly, slowly going
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  Speaker 2: up the vine. So then I decided it was time
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  Speaker 2: for me to leave. So I cut across another couple
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  Speaker 2: ridges and was heading back up, and it was it
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  Speaker 2: was again a hot day. So I sat down on
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  Speaker 2: the rock, cooling off, and then I heard screams. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: it was deeper. It's like Kyo screams, but a lot deeper.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm sitting there watching. I'm I'm halfway up the hill.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in a pretty good spot. I don't think anybody can,
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  Speaker 2: anybody or anything that's gonna see me. So the screams
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  Speaker 2: get closer and closer, but they're down the hill where
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  Speaker 2: the small creek is. Well, I'm just sitting there watching,
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure out what it is. And then it
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  Speaker 2: comes into view and it's a dog man standing on
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  Speaker 2: two legs and actually when he comes down, when I
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  Speaker 2: first bodied me, was on all fours, but he got
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  Speaker 2: so barred down and he just stood up and looked
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  Speaker 2: my direction and he let out a scream, and just
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  Speaker 2: a long, deep scream, high pitched scream. And as I
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  Speaker 2: was on that rock, I felt my breathing and I
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  Speaker 2: started messing up, like my throat was closing allergic reaction.
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  Speaker 2: I said, well, I'm not as head as good as
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  Speaker 2: I thought I was. So I eased over behind a
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  Speaker 2: tree and watched him, and he started coming up my way.
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  Speaker 2: So I said, well, I'm hot. I can hear my
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  Speaker 2: my heart beating through my ears. I said, I'm gonna,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a bee line and get out of here.
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  Speaker 2: So I was wearing a pair of forestry breeches pants
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  Speaker 2: that's got double zippers, and I had a pistol inside
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  Speaker 2: the second zipper, and I decided to go straight up
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  Speaker 2: the mountain. And it's a long waist to the mountain.
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  Speaker 2: I got, I took off, started up the mountain and
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  Speaker 2: let out another the scream, and it shock me or
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  Speaker 2: zapp me, whatever you want to call it, and I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't move. I was just froze. So then I got
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  Speaker 2: up to an old logging road that runs parallel to
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  Speaker 2: the hill the mountain, and I walked up, walked it
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  Speaker 2: for ways and it was growed up and saplings and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So I know, once I got to the top of
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  Speaker 2: the mountain there was a fence and another road up
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  Speaker 2: another logging road, so I get to that logging get
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  Speaker 2: to the top. I crossed the fence. The fences of
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  Speaker 2: moving water. It's about four foot tall with two strands
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  Speaker 2: of barbed wire on top of it makes it about
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  Speaker 2: five and a half feet tall. So get across it.
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  Speaker 2: When I get into this other logging road, to the
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  Speaker 2: four wheelers and whatnot had been riding it, so it
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  Speaker 2: was pretty clean. So I started walking it and looking
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  Speaker 2: behind me. Well, this thing comes up to the fence.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of of jumping the fence, it just steps over
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  Speaker 2: the fence like we would step over a toy in
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  Speaker 2: the floor. You know, this is a big creature. So
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  Speaker 2: I ease on up. There's a hayfield up there and
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  Speaker 2: had just been cut just weeks before that, so the
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  Speaker 2: grass wouldn't but over maybe five inches off. So I
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  Speaker 2: got in the middle of this hayfield, and by then
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  Speaker 2: I had pulled my weapon out and I'd do a
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  Speaker 2: slow walk, look around, slow walk, and made sure I
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  Speaker 2: got directly in the middle of this hayfield. I could
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  Speaker 2: see in every direction, nothing could come out on me.
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  Speaker 2: So I get to one of my vehicles parked and
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  Speaker 2: get in. Get in the vehicle. I never take my
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  Speaker 2: keys with me. To the woods, because you lose your
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  Speaker 2: keys in the woods, you'll never find them again. You're
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  Speaker 2: beg So I had stuck them. I had put a
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  Speaker 2: towel on my seat and come out of the wood,
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  Speaker 2: you're dirty and sweaty. So when I got in the car,
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  Speaker 2: I just for some reason, I just hit the door lock,
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  Speaker 2: but just had a habit. Put my seat belt on,
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  Speaker 2: was reaching up under my thigh, turned around reaching them
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  Speaker 2: and pumped my thigh under. But how to pull my
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  Speaker 2: keys out? As I pulled my keys out, felt something
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  Speaker 2: hit the car. I stuck a key in the ignition.
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  Speaker 2: As I sticking key ignition and looked up, there was
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  Speaker 2: this massive dog man and he had already had one paw,
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  Speaker 2: massive paw on my front windshield and one paul right
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  Speaker 2: above my mirror on the driver's side, and the driver's
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  Speaker 2: side of my car just pushed down, just the weight
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  Speaker 2: of it just puts pushed down, and the paw that
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  Speaker 2: was on my front windshield my windshield started cracking. Oh yep.
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  Speaker 2: So my windshield cracked about a two foot crack. And
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  Speaker 2: I know if I didn't get out, he would knock
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  Speaker 2: my windshield plumb out pushing on it. So I started
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  Speaker 2: the car up and backed it up, backed out of
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  Speaker 2: that cautiously looking behind me, and I could seeing him
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  Speaker 2: behind me, and you come out running and he jumped
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  Speaker 2: on top of my car. So when I come out
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  Speaker 2: of this old logging road out of the save field,
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  Speaker 2: when I made a rite onto a dirt gravel road,
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  Speaker 2: I was able to sling him off. Well, he followed
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  Speaker 2: me home, but I didn't know he followed me home.
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  Speaker 2: And you're looking at a good eighteen miles to my
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  Speaker 2: house from that particular place.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard this before. They'll do that. They'll follow you
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  Speaker 1: a long way back. Oh yeah, So.
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  Speaker 2: He followed me home and didn't know it. I went in,
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  Speaker 2: you know, got settled in this and that, and sometime
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  Speaker 2: later that night. I've got an outside dog. He's a
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  Speaker 2: little mountain pist. He's a good little hunt dog. He
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  Speaker 2: stays outside with he starts barking. Well, all of us
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  Speaker 2: country folk know that's got dogs that our dogs bark
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  Speaker 2: different ways for different things. If it's somebody around the house,
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  Speaker 2: they got a certain bark. It's somebody coming up your
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  Speaker 2: driveway in the vehicle, they got a certain bark. So
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  Speaker 2: if the barments are in the chicken coop or anything.
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  Speaker 2: They've got a certain bark and carry on. Well, the
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  Speaker 2: bark he let out, I knew somebody was outside, but
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  Speaker 2: I thought, well, I just didn't see him pulling the driveway.
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  Speaker 2: I walked to the back door and opened the back
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  Speaker 2: door where he's at the backyard barking. And when I
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  Speaker 2: opened the screen door, he run. He running the house
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  Speaker 2: between my legs, which is he's not a house dog.
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  Speaker 2: You couldn't keep him in the house. So something scared him.
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  Speaker 2: So I had the porch light on and flipped the
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  Speaker 2: porch light on. I didn't see anything. I walked out there,
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  Speaker 2: didn't see any thing. So I come in and got
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  Speaker 2: a flashlight, went back out there and shined around and
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  Speaker 2: didn't see anything. Well, I went back into the living room,
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  Speaker 2: and it's sitting down in the living room, and the
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  Speaker 2: dog naturally wanted back out, so I put him back
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  Speaker 2: out the front door. In my living room, it's working.
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  Speaker 2: The front door to my front porch is so I
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  Speaker 2: walked him back out there on the front porch and
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  Speaker 2: he seemed to be all right, didn't act nervous or anything,
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  Speaker 2: and so I went back in. In just a few minutes,
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  Speaker 2: I heard him screaming like something was attacking. So I
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  Speaker 2: opened the front door to go back out, and again
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  Speaker 2: he runs back in. He boats in, Wait, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: So I went and got my shot gut him and
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  Speaker 2: took my light. When I looked around, nothing, didn't say nothing.
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  Speaker 2: So I come back in the house, and I noticed
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  Speaker 2: the dog was going in and out of my rooms
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  Speaker 2: on the left hand side of the house, then the
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  Speaker 2: right side inside of the house. Then he went into
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  Speaker 2: my bedroom on the left side, and there was a
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  Speaker 2: north facing window, and he got there to that window.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the blinds are closed and everything there, and
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  Speaker 2: he started slowly barking up, growling with a whiny voice,
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  Speaker 2: again completely out of his character. And then I have
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  Speaker 2: a east west east facing window. He eased over to
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  Speaker 2: that window and done the same thing. Well, I know,
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  Speaker 2: whatever this was was outside that window. There was no way,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there was no way I could get to
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  Speaker 2: it without exposing myself if I went outside. So I said, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going anyway. So I took out my flashlight, loaded
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  Speaker 2: my shotgun, eased out the back door, went to the
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  Speaker 2: corner of the house, and when I shined it down
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  Speaker 2: the corner of the house where my bedroom window was
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  Speaker 2: a burst of the dog man. So I shot him,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: shot him with a shot good. He took off running.
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  Speaker 1: We had Was it a bird shot?
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Slug it? Bird shot it? Well, it wasn't bird shot.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: It was squirrel shot. It was number four. Okay, yeah,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: you know I wasn't expecting to see the dog man
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: there right.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Right, right right, I'm just asking you know, just.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Right he had followed me home, and I didn't realize
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: he followed me home until I seen him out there
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: and when and then I shot him the same glowing
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: ice pruce. No, that's laser ice. That's laser eyes. This one.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: This one had the glowing eyes also, but it had
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: an amber when I had seen it in the woods,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: it had red eyes and then turned the amber or
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: gold and then back to had when he was on
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: my vehicle.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Oh are you saying that maybe like their their eyes
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: maybe are just shooting in the dark hair like they
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: can kind of like through their eyes express their emotion.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called frequency. Okay, they can master frequency. When
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: you master frequency, they're able to do things like that. Okay,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't call it supernatural because I'm not as a detective.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I'm seventy percent supernatural, but more I'm still at thirty.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent it was finatural.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Oh either, yeah, I'll go fifty to fifty because I
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: haven't had the experiences that you've had or many others.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, there seems to be things
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: that are you know, you and I could do them,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: and then there are certain things that you're like, I
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: don't know what the hell can do that?
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: So yeah, right, So the dog still in the house.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: He stays on about another hour, so he wants back out,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: so I turned him back outside, and then I stay
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: up quite a while because now I know this thing's
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: followed me home and the daylight's coming. So about six
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: thirty seven o'clock somewhere in there, I had made me
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: a pot of coffee, and I walked out on the
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: front porch and sat down on the gliders drinking the coffee.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: And right across from from my front yard is my garden,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: and it's about five miles of woods in their heavy
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: woods and nothing around. So I was sitting there drinking
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: my coffee and I heard that scream, and I know
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: then he's still here. So I had went back inside
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: and this time. I got my two forty three high
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: powered rifle in a fresh box of shells, as i'd
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: popped a couple of days before that, and I just
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: set it down on the porch there and I walked
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: over to the edge of the wood and I got
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: h with that. Early in the morning, the sun was
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: rising from the east, casting the sunlight to the west,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: so I got to the to the west side of
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: the tree where it was still shady, and camouflaged myself in,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and then just after a few minutes he showed himself.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: He didn't know I was in there, so then I
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: eased back out and got back to the porch and
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: got my gun and loaded it. It was like I said,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: of two forty three, it held three shots. So I
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: loaded it and put the box of shells in my
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: back pocket, and I walked back down in the woods
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and got behind another big tree with shading it and
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: he exposed himself again. This time instead of shooting him,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I shot at him. I shot the ground and the
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: tree next to him, and then he run down a
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: holler just a few yards and went up in the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: top of a big poplar tree. So I got down
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: to where I could see him good in the popular tree.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: So I just started shooting at him, at the limbs
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: and stuff he was on, and then he come down
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the backside of it and took off, went a few
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: more yards and hid again, and I just shot several
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: rounds off that time. And by then I was in
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the bottom in the creek in these heavy woods, and
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I could see him in the distance because he stayed
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: out in that creek. So I just started shooting around
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: him and just kept pushing him, and we crossed a
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: couple of ridges. Then I pushed him out of the
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: area and never seen him since.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: So, wow, could you describe this thing? I mean, I've
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: heard ones that have like a bulldog head, ones that
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: looked like the wolf man head. I've also heard ones
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: that look like hyena or hyenas. Better said, what could.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: You describe it for us? He was He was around
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: six and a half to seven foot tall. It wasn't
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: that what's taller now was he had an upper build
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: like a human torso he had extremely long long the
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: paws that were the toes come out of. The paws
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: were more human like with extremely long nails. His claws
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: were probably five to six inches long. So when he
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: was at my bedroom window standing up. It looks like
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: he could almost touch my uh my drain, my gutter.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: So that's when I shot him, because I shot of course,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I shot him a squirrel shot, which didn't hurt him,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: but he got the message. But yeah, he had a
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: shorter snout, he had the regular one eyes at that time,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: excessively long long law black hair, and then he had
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the feet the back feet of just like a canine.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: And the tail was probably two thirds of the length
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: of him. Okay, so you know, extreamly long tail on him.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: So when he was down on all fours, he was
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: extremely long, so he could have he could have been
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: easily ten feet long right down on all fours County's tails.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: So when he's standing up, his tail is touching the ground,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: dragging on the ground.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Right right, right.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're you're so, you're so candid and nonchalant
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: about it. And when did this happens.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: This was twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, somewhere.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: In there, not even ten years ago, and so you
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: were still you were still active in law enforcement. I
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: just got out, Yeah, you just got out in the daytime,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: chilling everyone's during the week, you get to go out
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and do some genzen hunting. I got you, man, That's
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that's what I like. I love I love those kind
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: of stories, but I don't necessarily I do love the story,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: but I don't love that it happened to somebody like you,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: or anybody for that matter. It's just that these these
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: things are Why are you You're so calm about it?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: What is it? What is it about it that? How
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: are you able to do that?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: You ever heard of monad? I think I sent you
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: a link on it?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Monad? Is that the is that the Is that the
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: one that you sent me over Facebook?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Frequency links?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen it real quick, but I didn't honestly
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: didn't have the chance to take a look at it.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I think a quick gander, real quick, Monad?
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: All right round? The ring in the ear and the
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: sign of the monad Jesus taught wey chosen ones have
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: ring ears? Is the frequency of the moonad? Okay, could
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: you maybe summarize what that is?
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: The ringing and the the bigfoot encryptids who have mastered this,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: not all of them have mastered this.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: That's to where they can walk in and out of
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: the bail. They can walk in and out of dimensions.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: That's the reason why people who see them, say, in
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: an open field and sitting there taking pictures of them,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: the pictures are blurring and all of a sudden it's gone. Well,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: it didn't run across the field, it just disappeared, just
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: vanished in plain sight. Well, that's called the monad. And
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: what that is is a frequency that is that once
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: you get to that frequency, it lets you see things
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: and do things. Well. I have not mastered the monad.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I have just practiced of what Jesus off to these
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: to only his disciples, so that by using frequencies and
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: keeping an open mind, the ringing in your ears you
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: can you can see things that normal people can't see.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: So that makes you more acceptable for these things to
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: show themselves to you. I know it sounds crazy, but
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: there's actual truth in the Bible of that.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't, you'll. I kind of come more
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: from the Eastern mysticism side of things a little bit
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: more like there's yogis and people in monasteries and you know,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: to bat and other places in the Himalayas who can
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: actually get into such a meditative state that they actually
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: disappear themselves. This has been documented. You know, you won't
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: find it on National Geographic or any your science literature,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: but yes, it makes complete sense, Pors.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, see, when you get into places like you're talking about,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: they've got those around things that own spinners. When they've
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: spin it, it makes difference. So these frequencies that puts
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: them in that enlightened stage, singing bowls or whatever that
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: is you mean right right, that puts in that gives
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: them that.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: The vibration that frequency I got your.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Right, The vibration of frequency that opens things up to
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: them to better understand what.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: They're Maybe that's when I don't know if you know
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: much about it, but maybe that's when say, I know,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I really enjoy like reading on psychedelics because people are
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: looking for you know, you can you can get a
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you know, a religious experience just from being you know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: a Christian or even not. But there's people who are
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: searching and seeking that, especially nowadays in this whatever world
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: this is at the moment, and they'll go down to
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: like Peru and take this thing called ayahuasca. Have you
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: heard of this? I'm sure you have been an arcotics officer. Yes,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: of course you.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, right, the Indians, you know, they smoked piote.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they believe, they believed you need to be
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: extremely high to be able to be in the spirit
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: realm because of their frequencies and the vibrations.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're seeing like people I've read I've read the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: doctor Strassman's book what is it? The uh, the uh.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: He's got a very famous book out and it's about
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: dimethyl trip to mean d MT. And he would write
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: down what people were under a clinical setting in New Mexico,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: writing down under clinical you know, in a hospital, what
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: they were experiencing once they came back, and it's a
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: lot like a dream, like when you remember things in
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: a dream, and if you don't like let it go
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: through your head when you were first wake up, you
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: forget about it. So that's why he wrote it all down.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: And these people were in like you know, there's machinescapes,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: ice worlds like you know, like star wars or something,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: and people under ayahuasca will see.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: You know, like.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Things like UFOs made of feathers and glowing light, some
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: jaguars and all kinds of crazy things. So I mean,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: it's just maybe just a different means to get to
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: this mo ad frequency on what you're talking about.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Now, the monad, Yeah, monad molad?
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: What about that's a race, isn't it.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: The Yeah? Yeah, So I have bringing in the years
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I was born with it, and several specialist When I
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: was a youngster, my parents took me. My daddy was
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: on military for thirty three a little over thirty three years, so.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's a long time.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a long time. He's in the Navy
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: and uh he's a nuclear warhead specialist. So I had
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: seen the best doctors and of course they all say
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: ten of thatis, but no doctor can cure ten of itis.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: And then being seeing these bigfoots in these cryptids, you know,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I started studying on is why am I seeing it?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: And no, but there's other people spend just as much
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: time in the woods as I do. Why they're not
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: saying it because they're not acceptable to it because they're
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: not in that frequency. Right?
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Are you saying that the quote unquote tenn is is
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: making making you, I would you say, predisposed to have
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: the ability to see these things more than others.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Right, because you're putting out a frequency, your ears are ringing,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I think frequency and these these cryptids can hear that
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: and that brings them to you, right, they'll expose themselves
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: to you.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Incredible, incredible. That's that's something that doesn't get to be
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: at least I'm sure it's been discussed somewhere, but I
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: haven't heard had. Do you happen to know your blood
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: type by any chance?
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: No? I don't. I may not should, but I don't.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I'd be willing to bet it's uh negative either it's negative,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: be negative a negative, because I've also heard that people
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: you know, we've have been through this, you know part
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: of the thing too, you know, going through this journey
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: of trying to figure out what this stuff is and
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: helping people talk about it as well as give people it,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: you know, who've had experiences talking to other people and
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: connecting them. That people with this uh oh negative or
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: excuse me, I think I can think of a word
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: of it. But it's negative blood type, and that they
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: are also susceptible to like paranormal activity and things of
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: that nature. And it all comes from like the southern France,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: somewhat Bosque region of Europe, and that blood type kind
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: of the people who have that for some odd reason,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Bruce seem to have that ability as well. I just
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: wonder I would love to, you know, if you ever
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: had a chance to figure that out. Maybe go talk
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: to your doctor. I'm sure he's own record somewhere. Of course,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: being being being in the sheriff's office, you had to
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: take a blood test somewhere.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I've got it somewhere. It's yeah, And I've
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: probably been told about it. I just don't. Not one
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: of them things I've kept up with. I guess you know.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: The only reason I remember mine because it was on
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: my dog tag, So I'm oh, possible. So that's.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Very interesting.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: So for you, it's just that you were just saying, basically,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: they answered the question to I asked you about ten
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: minutes ago. You were just saying, you know, the reason
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: that it's normal for you is because it's been your
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: whole life. So when you discuss it, it doesn't bring
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: those emotions in because for some people when they see it,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: it's a very shocking thing. But you've been dealing with
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you know, sasquatch or bigfoot ever since you were young
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: fishing eight years old exactly, so, and then all the
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: paranormal things. So this is just you know, and this
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: is the Is this the only time you've encountered this
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: dog man thing?
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: No, I've been counting dog man for years. Uh, back
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: back in the day. The older people call them lines, yes,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: if you think, because they had the heavy mane. If
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: you've seen one, they wouldn't talk about it because it
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: meant it would mean sickness or death in the family.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: So the older people, Appalachian people, would wouldn't discuss it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: You know, you'd have to be a close family member
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: before they would tell you about it. And then they
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: would wait a few days, superstitiously, especially after one o'clock
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: in the evening, they could tell you. But they had
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: these ways, and when they would see one, they would
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: call it in a line because that's what it looked
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: like to them.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Like a harber like an omen of right.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Right, So that since they didn't quite understand that it
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: was a creature, they just took it as a sign
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: of omen like you said, and they wouldn't talk about it.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: And then of course family members, my grandparents and great
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: grandparents and some of the elderly people in the community,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: once they got to know you as a kid and stuff,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: and you'd ask questions, you know they would tell you
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: about it, but they would say, you know, if you
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: see this, don't talk about it for three days and
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: make sure it's on the third day it's after one
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: o'clock or it'll come through.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: And then imagine being a law enforcement enforcement officer being
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: called around different parts of the county or in er
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: state that you're in. You meet with a lot of people.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: You're trying to connect with them, which is what law
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: enforcement should be doing, is not only to protect and serve,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: but also being in connection with the community. Knowing you
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that's what you did. So when you do this, these
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: stories come out right.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Right wown community of knowledge call community policing. They've got
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: away from that here lately, but years ago we all
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: did community policing. If we got a call at a
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: house and another officer wasn't familiar with it, we were
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: somebody the department. We were. We could tell them what
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: their dog's name was, you know, what their house looked like, uh,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: what their wife's name was, what their children's name was,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: what their ages were, what vehicles they drove. Because it
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: was community policing and uh so you made a lot
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: of friends. You got to eat supper with a lot
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: of different people throughout the communities in the county.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: And the Americana. Man, I miss it.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So you get to hear a lot of things,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: you get to see a lot of things. Uh huh.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: But the the Hairless Dog man.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: When I had my experience with it, I went back
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: to uh Google YouTube. They were trying to find somebody
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: else that had that experience. It's never been on the podcast,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: it's never been on a TV show. It's never been
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: talked about. And I found that unusual because I can't
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: be the only one that's seen it unless you know,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: we get into the mountains and when superstition comes in,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: people won't talk about it.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Appellatian is known for that stuff. There's a lot
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: of witches and large birds and stuff too, like the
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: also like harbingers. If you see a large owl or
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: a large row where they're like, if you see that,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: that's death. Do not talk about it. You don't mention it.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Walk away from it. If you hear have you ever
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: heard of people being like like children being called into
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: the forest. Have you heard of stories like that too?
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I've had that happen to me. Okay,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: oh yes, yes, we were me and another guy was
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: into the woods and we were coon hunting. It was
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: late at night and me and him were together. There
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: was nobody else back in these woods. An elderly man
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: had owned it. He lived by hisself, and it was
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: almost twelve hundred acres, so there were no homes close.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: It's two miles to the next house. So we're back
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: in there and we hear we hear these a couple
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: of tree knocks, not paying any attention to it because
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: we're you know, we're working hunting basically, and uh uh
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: and then you hear whoops. And then he would say, hey, Bruce,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: did you hear that? And then out of the woods,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: up on top of the hillside, somebody at hollers say, hey, Bruce,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: do you see that? Do you hear that? And I'm
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: going it just freaks us out. You don't want to
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: be like you know first, has any.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Of them ever offered to help you?
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, what do they sabers?
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: When they offered to help If you get in a
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: bad situation, I felt I felt uh chin saying honey
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: around the spring where it was muddy, and hit my
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: come down on my hip. I thought I broke my hip.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I couldn't feel my leg for an over an hour,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: and just out, just out of the corner of my
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: purple vision on the right side, here comes this massive
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: hairy man H. Because they all looked look different. They're
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: like us, there's no two exactly the same. Well, you
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: know we're humans. We got two legs, so on, arms, eyes,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: but there's a little bit different facial structure to these
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: things and they have different personalities too. And it comes
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: down and it says, you know, you've got you've got
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: to get out of here before it gets darker. You
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: won't find your way out. So and it I wouldn't.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: It didn't say it in a sense to work. It
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: was actually speaking speaking, but you understood what it said.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: It was like a chirping noise, a mimicking noise of
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: a bird, but you understood what it said.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: And so the reason I'm asking is because I'm talking
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: to a h I'm still trying to get her back
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: on again. Her name is Ewiza, and she's a Northwest
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Native tracker. You've probably seen her on the Lives and
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: she she told me that there's there's a type out
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: there that that offers to help and if you take
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: that help here in a bad way, and it literally
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: said to her, Hey, do you need any help? And
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: she was like no, no, I don't. It took her
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: bow and moved it and she went down to pick
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: it up and it was like, hey, can I help you?
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: And She's like no, And then I had to get
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: up out of there, and uh, yeah, those that is
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: so scary. But the way you're I even had on
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Ernie Daviel where the thing was trying to communicate with
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: him but was sign language.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: You know, it's a fascinating the it's the female ones
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: that do that. I think the the well, I know,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: they're the leader of the most pacts I've run across. Uh,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: they get closest to you. Uh, they're more they will speak,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: they will stand down. Uh the big males, they'll argue
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: with them, but they will get closest to you. And
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: some of them can actually know certain words. And one
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: of the words that I've heard said to me is help.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: And you know, I'd be like I don't understand and
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: be like help.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: What's them?
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah? So I would follow them and they'd leave me
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: to an entrance to a cave and then when I
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: get to the cave, there then it would be like no, no,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: and so not knowing what that means. When I get
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: home and I'm thinking about, you know, help, there's nothing
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: that this female didn't appear to have anything wrong with it,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: so maybe I needed to give. Maybe they were hungry
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: because that particular year was a drought, we didn't have
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: a good nut drop. So I drive. I had driven
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: by a stand where a guy had these big bags
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: of pecan. So I'm like, well, I know they've never
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: seen a pecon because around here, you know, that's just
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: not a native tree. We do have them in orchards
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: in certain places, but it's just not a native tree.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: So I got four big bags of pecons and I
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: drove back up there and I walked it was probably
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: a good three miles back here to the caves. I
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: walked to the caves and I put the bags there,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: and this blew my mind and said thank you, thank you,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: and just repeated it till I walked out of sight.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Did so it was just a deep voice. And then
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: the ones down on the Cumelin River that I become
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: really good friends with, they migrate, They don't stay in
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: one area very long, and follow the food sources and here, lady,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: with everything, everybody coming in behind these farms are splitting
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: them up. I've lost contact with that group two or
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: three times, but they were able to find me, so
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: we were able to keep him. But I had this one, yeah,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: please please, I had this one female in the group
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: who flirted with me. And that's hard to believe, but
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I call it a flirt because she was really friendly.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I mean she didn't she didn't care to come down
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: and sit down on the rock next to me. If
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I was sitting on the wall, she'd set four or
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: five feet from me, and the rest of them would
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: stay at a distance and just they would chatter, and
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: you would think it would be a high pitched chatter,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: but it's a low pitch chat chatter like a frog
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: making a noise. So we so I started doing hoodol calls.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: When I come in the woods to find them. I
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: would just make a and they would answer me back
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: every time, and then they knew it was me.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: So why do you think? Why do you because from
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: what I hear, like the dog man seems to be
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: much more aggressive, and then this and this bigfoot seem
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: to be much more sociable. Why do you think that
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: is What is it about the dog man that makes
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: it so aggressive?
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Is it just this nature or.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Well the dog man. There's there's there's a werewolf, and
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: then there's a dog man. Right, there's the there's the
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: rogue big Put, and there's the family Big Put. You
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: you never know what you're going to run into. So
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: when you run across the ones that are the family
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: big Put. And then you have the leader, which is
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: a female. Uh, she controls them. If they get aggressive, weeds,
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: she will stop it right and you will stop it.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: With a dog man, you very seldom have more than one.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I've only had a couple instidents from where I've had
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: four dog men at one time. But they like they
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: were like they hated each other. And I had called
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: them in with a with a collar with a rabbit
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: squall and they were ah making noises at each other.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I guess in an attempt to get to the dying rabbit.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: More of the wolf like animal instincts, right, So they're more.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Like a they're more like a wolf pack where they
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: kind of like run, but it's not like the I
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: guess you was a wolf.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Back has a dominant dominator. You know, they have two
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: in the group that controls the whole group. Dog Man's different.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Dog Man's more of a loner, so he doesn't interact
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: well with other dogs. Man.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, so when you run across someone like yourself and
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: then you picked up one of its babies, I guess
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I'm supposing right, and it's then it's then that's probably
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: left it there, no one thinking that it's fine because
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: it's not a very beaten down trail but also is
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: and then smells you, recognizes you. They have some type
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: of sense that. That's why the one that we were
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: talking about a couple of minutes ago was ultra aggressive
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: towards you, Right, Okay, that's okay. I don't want to
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: put words in your mouth. I'm basically asking, yeah, I think, well,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: you're gonna I don't know. I've had you on so
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: many times for some of the last but it's just
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: your wealth of knowledge is needs. It needs to be
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: heard by many, not all.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: And I've been asked, I've been asked to write books
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: and do movies on it. But I'm not okay, I'm
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: not just there yet. You know, I'm not that comfortable
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: with with exposing so much of this at one time.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like when I first met you, I thought it
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: was just you know, oh yeah, you know there's people
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: who only have big for the counters, you know. And
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: then you're like, a yeah, were talking about that, and
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay. And the gentleman that I would
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: call him a gentleman at the cemetery of the forty
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: five minute encounter and the airplane incident and all in between.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: And then it's just it's just been your whole life.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: How do you how do you keep saying with that?
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Your faith?
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Right? I believe in Christ. Uh, that's getting me through it.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I mean other than those types of things. I mean,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I was at the Nashville Airport UH nineties in UH
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: an airplane come past, doesn't a buzz on the tower
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: and come right across the parking lot. He sees me
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: in the parking lot and I can see him. I
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: can see his uniform, what he's wearing, the whole nine yards.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: And he's in a lerig yet and he's not gained
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: he's not gained an altitude, and I can see it
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: on his face. He's in trouble. And he makes a
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: right hand bank. When he does, it just drops out
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: the sky like a rock and boom and he's dead.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, it just wasn't nothing left. It burnt to
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: the ground. You witnessed a plane crash. Yeah. I was
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: on Channel five or Channel two news out of Nashville
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: over that because it took me to tell them what
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: the plane looked like and how the pilot was dressed
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: and stuff for them to know what company it belonged to,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: because nobody had a company missing. You know, they didn't
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: have a plane missing.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you know that FAA doesn't work that way.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Right, But when he comes by the tower, why was
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: this ignored? So his wife and kids got a lot
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: of money out of this because they knew he was
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: in trouble when he crashed. I had to call the
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: news media because the airport says he didn't crash, but
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: the planes over there at the end of the runway
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: in the hallmark, Yeah, right there, everybody could see it.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: So this is it was a squarel mission or something,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: that's what that was.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: It took thirty minutes for the airport bar trucks to
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: get there. I did just let it burn, yeah, I mean,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: it was nothing left but the jet engines and you know,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: just few metal parts of the plane.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: So this has been your whole entire life. Man, all right, dude, Yeah,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: maybe in a little while because it's uh as you're
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: willing or would be willing to speak with me more.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. By the way, I think we
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: have a nice mutual respect going on, and uh yes,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I have a good, good communication skills between us, which
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I'm enjoying h immensely. I'm going to have you back
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: on to talk more about the dog man. It's it's it's.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: The dog. The dog man is a is a uh
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: uh experimental creature. In some aspects it's a it's a
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: it's a it's a mammal, and other it's according to
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: what you run upon. Some of them are tests I
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: call test two babies and where the government's messed with them.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Uh again, most of them are loaners and most of
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: them are killers. But uh if you can have enough
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: experiences with them, you know how to deal with them.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Right now, that don't mean when I go out tomorrow
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: I won't get eat by one. I'm just saying that.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Have you ever had a rebuke on your property? Have
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: you ever had to had to rebuke because of the
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: you said you scared the one off. He never came back.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: But have you ever had to do that on your property? No,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: you haven't had to do that. Now. I've had them,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: like I said, come followed me to the vehicle. I've
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: had them to crack my windshield. They broke my side
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: mirror on my driver's side. One had slabbered all over
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: them the windshield of the car.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I couldn't see how to drive out till I
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: cut the windshield wipers on you. And you know what
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: happens to your evidence? Yeah, it's destroyed, then is contaminated. Uh.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I've come across a couple dead in the woods. But
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: at the same time, I didn't want to turn them
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: in because, uh, the government comes in and they tend
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: to annihilate things that.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got say no more. I know what
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: you mean. You have to protect your you have to
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: protect you and others. That's that pretend that didn't exist
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: what you said there. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it, man,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. This is a It's gonna take me
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: a bitut of to digest it. I really did like
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: the I'm gonna get it right now. I want to
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: say mo ad again.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: But it's not now Jesus. Jesus taught that to his disciples,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: and it's about frequency and how Uh you have two
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: different groups of people in the spirit world that try
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: to defer you and make you think differently. But he
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: had talked the monad way that gives you spiritual divinity
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: where you could talk and yeah right, you didn't have
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: to pray and ask for nothing. All you had to
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: say was four words. Okay, I am the sign.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Where can you find us in the Bible, Bruce, so
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I can look this up?
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Uh? That piece I give you there, Yeah, it's all
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: yeah now, that come from Jeep, one of jesus disciples,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Philip Philip Protet okay, and that was that was found
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: in the scrolls in nineteen forty five, hidden in the
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Dead Sea Scrolls.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, interesting. There's some interesting things that I
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: know about that too, the Dead Sea Scrolls and the
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Cross and the Sacred Mushroom. I don't know if you've
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: ever run across that literature. Very interesting stuff too that
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I found because I went. Everyone finds different routes to
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: get to where they are, and everyone has little bits
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: of information. A lot of these people click on these
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: shows because it's entertainment of sorts, which is true because
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: it's so because it's fear, it's scary. But some of
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: them want to try to piece things together, and a
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: lot of them try to piece things together. And it
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: seems the deeper you dig, the more questions actually revealed themselves.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: And it's it's it's it's founding, it's it's fascinating to me,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: it's just absolutely fascinating.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: And one of those scrolls is called the Book of Philip. Okay,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: so that will give you a lot of insight into frequencies.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: I know, I haven't had a chance to talk to
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Ron moorehead or or visit with him, but he's just
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: now getting into quantum physics.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had a book.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is about uh Jesus teaching and his and
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: the one he taught at most to was Philip, his
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: fifth disciple, and it comes to basically comes out to
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: quantum physics. So it's very interesting. It took me, it
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: took me years to figure out why I was having
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: all these sins and all these things were happening around me,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: and uh, why I was always in the right place
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: good or bad?
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the right or wrong time.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Right, and some of the farmers and people that have
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: the encounters that's come and got me to help them
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: get it off their farms. I asked me why I'm
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: so calm, and I say, well, it's about frequency, having
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: an open mind and showing no fear. Doesn't mean when
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get home, I've got to unwind. Oh,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: process it, you know. No, but a lot of things
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: in life. And you were in the military, if you
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: showed fear, you know, fighting the enemy, they pretty much
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: pretty much let you know they won. And if you
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: didn't show any fear, it showed them and oh they're
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: in trouble.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They used to do that, like during Walward one
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: or two when they would have the trench work one,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: when they had the trench warfare, they would.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Yet each other.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they would yell out across the what the no
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: man's land they would call it the dead lands, we
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: call it. Would allow things in English, and you know,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: try to like mess with your.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Psychologically, Yeah, intimidate you.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So you have to be a sound of
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: mind and heart and connection to a higher power definitely
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: definitely helps me. I know that, buddy.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta you, gotta you gotta have that. I
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: want to go home. I'm in this foreign country and
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: I want to go home. So you're going to start
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: with everything you got and you and you smarts. You
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: didn't even think you had to get out of those predictaments.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: It's true, man, that's so true. It's great talking to you.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: We'll keep in touch and whenever you're willing, we'll make
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: a date in the future. Uh, it's uh. It's always
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you on man always.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Man. I appreciate you. Thank the world of you. First,
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: my first podcast was with you. My first coming out
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: talking to anybody about this was with you. I had
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: to keep quiet. Yes, I was pulled in by the
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: military so many times to keep my mouth shut. It
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: was unreal. Really, men in black two maybe, well, they
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: all show up and men in black or dark green,
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: dungle rees.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Been dark green? Fair enough, long's a will Smith, We're
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  Speaker 1: good to go.
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  Speaker 2: from my memory.
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  Speaker 1: But I understand. Yeah, it's great talking to you, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll see you around.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Man. Okay, all right, appreciate it. You have a good one.
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  Speaker 1: are the eye, we are aware and I love you
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