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Full Show Podcast: 21 September 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Fridge on
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  Speaker 1: Early Edition with Spark for Business, technology that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, time is six after five. We'll look at
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  Speaker 2: the supermarket battle that's going on, the political battle for
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  Speaker 2: control of the cost of living crisis. Gavin Gray's in
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  Speaker 2: the UK for us. Vicky Price does the business and
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about early childhood education and kids watching screens.
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  Speaker 1: The Agenda.
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  Speaker 2: This is Monday the 21st of September. Ukraine is hitting
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  Speaker 2: Moscow quite hard. They're holding this as the Russians' elections
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  Speaker 2: at the moment to, well, re-elect, confirm, rubber stamp Putin.
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  Speaker 3: The only anti-war party, Yalmakov, has been barred from participating
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  Speaker 3: in those elections and now none of the parties participate
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  Speaker 3: in the referendum. criticize the ongoing invasion. So for many people,
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  Speaker 3: this could lead to some state of depression and to
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  Speaker 3: their unwillingness to go to the polling stations because the result,
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  Speaker 3: the outcome of these elections is already known beforehand.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to the UK. Earl Spencer, this is Diana's brother,
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  Speaker 2: Princess Diana's brother, defending his claims in that book about
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  Speaker 2: Charles and the Royals with a BBC interview over the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: He's doing the rounds.
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  Speaker 4: I'm reporting every word in this book.
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  Speaker 5: I report exactly as I saw it and felt it
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  Speaker 5: at the time.
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  Speaker 6: And I was surprised at the giddiness of his tone.
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  Speaker 2: Now, he also says the treatment of Harry and Meghan has, quote,
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  Speaker 2: echoes of that of Diana. This silly business with Ed
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  Speaker 2: Sheeran and people coming to watch him sing and instead
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  Speaker 2: having to watch him give a speech like some kind
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  Speaker 2: of hostage, a pre-prepared written speech that he reads out
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  Speaker 2: on stage, all very weird, kicked off by these comments
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  Speaker 2: from Macklemore.
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  Speaker 4: Ed said the final decision to drop Macklemore was made
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  Speaker 4: by the promoter, not by him.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, it's just the weirdest story. I can't even work out,
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  Speaker 2: nor do I care to work out, whose side who
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  Speaker 2: is apparently on and who's for what and against what.
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  Speaker 2: Just sing a song and shut up.
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  Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in-depth analysis.
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  Speaker 1: Early edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business. Technology
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  Speaker 1: that keeps business moving. News Talk ZB.
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  Speaker 2: If only, if only life were that simple. Eight minutes
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  Speaker 2: after five, let's start with a bit of war, shall we?
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  Speaker 2: The Houthis, I've been following them quite closely just because
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  Speaker 2: it has the potential to really put a fly in
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  Speaker 2: the ointment when you've got one straight already blocked, already
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  Speaker 2: choked up. Now you've got the Houthis attacking Riyadh in
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  Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia. This is their first big or major assault
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  Speaker 2: on the Saudi Arabian capital. They've done it with ballistic
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  Speaker 2: and cruise missiles. They've done it with drones. and they're
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  Speaker 2: making headway against the Saudi-backed forces that are in Yemen,
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  Speaker 2: and we know that they've got to the port near
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  Speaker 2: the Red Sea, so there's a potential problem there. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, an update on the Red Sea, they have,
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  Speaker 2: I think, 15 ships going through there on Saturday. Normally
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  Speaker 2: they'd have a lot more than that. At the same time,
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  Speaker 2: you only had two or three going through the Strait
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  Speaker 2: of Hormuz, and that east-west pipeline that gets you from
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  Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia across to the Red Sea Well, that's been
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  Speaker 2: hit too. So potential little choke point there. That's why
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  Speaker 2: we saw the price of oil jump up last week. Now,
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  Speaker 2: on social media, I told you about the fact that
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  Speaker 2: because New Zealand and what Erica Stanford is proposing with
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  Speaker 2: her social media ban, you would hit the big social
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  Speaker 2: media companies, your Metas and your TikToks, you would hit
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  Speaker 2: them with fines that are based on their global worldwide revenues.
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  Speaker 2: And they don't like that very much. And so what
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  Speaker 2: they've done on Friday, Meta is doing a fresh legal
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  Speaker 2: challenge against the Online Safety Act there, which would basically
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  Speaker 2: mean stricter controls, more user controls, more transparency, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But what they don't like in particular are the fees
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  Speaker 2: and the fines. They say Ofcom, which is like their
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  Speaker 2: media regulator over there, Ofcom's methodology for calculating the charges
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  Speaker 2: was flawed and should not be based on a company's
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  Speaker 2: global revenue. So 10% of global revenue for a meter
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  Speaker 2: would be 18 million pounds. So not an insignificant amount
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  Speaker 2: of money. Now, they don't like that. And it's interesting
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  Speaker 2: because that's exactly what we are proposing here to base
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  Speaker 2: it off their global revenue. So if they have a
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  Speaker 2: problem with that, they will have a problem with ours,
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  Speaker 2: and we can expect the same sort of legal action here.
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  Speaker 2: Should the ban progress. We're going to get to business
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  Speaker 2: with Vicky Price. Also, we'll look at screens for kids.
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  Speaker 2: All ahead, Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio. Early edition with
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business. Technology that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: News Talk ZB. 5.13 News Talk ZB. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about the Warriors really, other than to say,
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  Speaker 2: very sad they lost and we were hoping they would
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  Speaker 2: do better. But some of the behaviour afterwards, have you
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  Speaker 2: seen those videos on social media of the fans throwing
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  Speaker 2: bottles at the refs? I mean, when I say bottles,
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  Speaker 2: you're not allowed bottles in stadiums anymore, so I'm pretty
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  Speaker 2: sure they would have been just cans or plastic cups.
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  Speaker 2: But not a great look, is it? Hey, we've had
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  Speaker 2: a couple of announcements now on supermarkets, and so the
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  Speaker 2: National Party one, as I said to you last week,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think is a serious one. It is, here's
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  Speaker 2: a report that says something but doesn't quite make the
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  Speaker 2: case for it, so we'll do another report, therefore not serious.
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  Speaker 2: Labour's come out with one that says, we'll go one further,
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  Speaker 2: we'll break up the wholesale and the retail. and we'll
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  Speaker 2: do it tomorrow. Now, the problem with that is the
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  Speaker 2: only report that's been done on that by a Labour
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  Speaker 2: government recommended that they didn't do that. So you have
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  Speaker 2: one that's not serious and one that is reactionary, immediate,
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  Speaker 2: and potentially very dangerous. 14 after five, we'll talk to
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  Speaker 2: Ardina Williams before six.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: Erica Stanford wants the phones and tablets banned for preschoolers
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  Speaker 2: and ECE centres, less screen time for juniors at primary
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  Speaker 2: school as well.
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  Speaker 7: Too many children are starting school without the skills they
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  Speaker 7: need for a successful transition.
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  Speaker 8: We have seen how the mobile phone ban has worked
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  Speaker 8: in classrooms and how it has reduced unnecessary distractions and
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  Speaker 8: protected valuable learning time. And in early childhood, this is
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  Speaker 8: just as important.
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  Speaker 2: It also wants a new school start check, looking at
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  Speaker 2: things like toilet training, dressing independently and holding a pencil.
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  Speaker 2: Kelly Seaberg is Chair of Advocates for Early Learning Excellence,
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  Speaker 2: joins us this morning. Kelly, good morning.
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  Speaker 9: Good morning.
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  Speaker 6: Morning, Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: So let's start there. The school start check. Good idea.
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  Speaker 9: Look, I think there's a good opportunity to discuss new
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  Speaker 9: ways to articulate progression within our early childhood curriculum. And
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  Speaker 9: I think, you know, what I'm hearing from principals and
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  Speaker 9: from parents is they do want to have a stronger
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  Speaker 9: shared understanding about children's learning through ECE and transition to school.
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  Speaker 9: There's currently a before school check and it's not well
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  Speaker 9: respected and quite frankly well used across ECE because it's
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  Speaker 9: got really inappropriate indicators in there. So, you know, I
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  Speaker 9: think there is some merit here and I think it's
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  Speaker 9: definitely worth exploring.
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  Speaker 2: What are the inappropriate indicators in the before school check?
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  Speaker 9: It's sort of very binary to say things like, you know,
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  Speaker 9: does your child do a tantrum? And I just sort
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  Speaker 9: of think some of those things people sort of react
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  Speaker 9: to and say, well, hang on, if you've got a
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  Speaker 9: young child in this day and age, sometimes they may
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  Speaker 9: still do that. But it doesn't mean that all of
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  Speaker 9: a sudden they've got major issues overall. So I think
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  Speaker 9: there needs to be better nuance. And also, we've got
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  Speaker 9: a curriculum in which we can actually put appropriate indicators
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  Speaker 9: within our curriculum around their learning dispositions, around their social
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  Speaker 9: and emotional regulation. So those things could definitely come through.
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  Speaker 9: We can think about, you know, early oral language. So
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  Speaker 9: those things are far more appropriate and supported by our curriculum.
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  Speaker 2: So do the teacher, who marks this? Who does this?
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  Speaker 2: It's the teacher that says, does this child throw a tantrum,
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  Speaker 2: yes or no? That's sort of how it works in
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  Speaker 2: the Mariah and Kate. And so this is what is
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  Speaker 2: being proposed by Erica Stanford, an improvement on that?
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  Speaker 9: I believe so. I mean, it's obviously at a high
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  Speaker 9: level at this stage. And I think for this to
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  Speaker 9: be successful, this has to be really driven by the
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  Speaker 9: sector and made with the sector to ensure that those
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  Speaker 9: indicators are appropriate, that they are entirely aligned to the curriculum.
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  Speaker 9: I think that's going to be very important if it's
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  Speaker 9: going to be successful.
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  Speaker 2: These are basic things, aren't they? Can the kid go
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  Speaker 2: to the toilet? Can the kid get themselves dressed? And
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  Speaker 2: can they hold a pencil? I mean, that's pretty obvious,
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  Speaker 2: I would have thought.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, as I said, I think there are
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  Speaker 9: a much broader spectrum of things that we can include
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  Speaker 9: in there. For example, I mean, when you think about toileting,
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  Speaker 9: this comes under a child's self-management skills in general, right?
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  Speaker 9: So when we're looking at how a child is developing
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  Speaker 9: an ECE, you know, can they actually put their clothes,
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  Speaker 9: take their clothes on and off? How can they open
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  Speaker 9: their lunch box? And, you know, how can they manage themselves?
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  Speaker 9: We definitely want those children to be capable and competent
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  Speaker 9: throughout their ECU journey and then into school. So, you know,
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  Speaker 9: toileting is part of that, of course. And when we
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  Speaker 9: start to look at things like, you know, are they
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  Speaker 9: able to have a serve and return conversation with an adult?
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  Speaker 9: Those are the things that we really want to pick
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  Speaker 9: up on. And also, if we're finding that children are
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  Speaker 9: not progressing in the way that we want to, I
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  Speaker 9: think there is merit that this could be helped, not
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  Speaker 9: just at the end. I think it's about how we're
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  Speaker 9: documenting and having conversation about children's progression throughout the early
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  Speaker 9: learning journey. And if there is something where they're not
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  Speaker 9: progressing the way that we'd like them to, this might
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  Speaker 9: help support. picking up that information if they need additional
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  Speaker 9: teaching strategies or early intervention.
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  Speaker 2: Kelly, just very quickly, are there some parents who it's
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  Speaker 2: awkward or you don't want to tell them that their
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  Speaker 2: kid is doing something wrong?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, look, that might be the case. And so something
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  Speaker 9: like this may help a conversation between parents and teachers.
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  Speaker 9: If a parent can see the full curriculum that we
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  Speaker 9: have in ECE, and I think there's real varied ways
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  Speaker 9: in which that's communicated to parents across the sector. So
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  Speaker 9: perhaps if this lays out the whole curriculum and you
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  Speaker 9: can say, hey, listen, this is where your child is
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  Speaker 9: at at the moment. This is what we're doing here
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  Speaker 9: in our ECE to support their next steps. Actually, this
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  Speaker 9: is what you can also do at home. I think
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  Speaker 9: those are really useful conversations. So I think this There's
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  Speaker 9: real potential for that.
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  Speaker 2: Kelly, appreciate your time this morning. Kelly Seberg, Chair of
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  Speaker 2: Advocates for Early Learning Excellence. We'll go to Vicky Price
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  Speaker 2: with the business out of Europe next.
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  Speaker 1: The Early Edition Pool Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by
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  Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB. Before the news breaks, hear it first. Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Bridge on Early Edition with Spark for Business, technology that
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  Speaker 1: keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. News Talk CB, it is 21 minutes after five.
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  Speaker 2: A bit of trouble for Mertz over in Germany. This
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  Speaker 2: is after two more state elections. We had that one
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  Speaker 2: election two weeks ago, the state election, where the AFD,
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  Speaker 2: the right-wing populist party, got the most support they ever
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  Speaker 2: got in a state election. Well, now there have been
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  Speaker 2: two more, and the result is, to quote him, a disaster.
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  Speaker 2: This is after exit polls. We'll bring you that news
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  Speaker 2: in just a few seconds. It's 22 after now. Vicky
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  Speaker 2: Price is doing the business. Vicky, good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting to watch that result out of Germany, isn't it? No, absolutely.
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  Speaker 10: That is a worry. And of course, there is quite
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  Speaker 10: an interesting development in terms of what the other countries
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  Speaker 10: may want to be doing in the next few months,
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  Speaker 10: because there is a budget that needs to be approved.
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  Speaker 10: And that budget is contested by various countries. And there
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  Speaker 10: is a worry that first of all because of the
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  Speaker 10: French elections that will happen next year, but also what
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  Speaker 10: is going on in Germany. There may be some greater
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  Speaker 10: difficulty in getting some of those decisions through, and they're
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  Speaker 10: trying to push it all so that it gets decided
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  Speaker 10: by the end of this year. So that is one
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  Speaker 10: of the consequences, if you like, of the political instability
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  Speaker 10: that we're seeing. Well, if you want to call it that,
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  Speaker 10: the political developments that we're seeing in Europe.
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  Speaker 2: The splintering that's happening across multiple countries from left to right,
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  Speaker 2: is affecting the collective budget that everybody needs to pass.
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  Speaker 2: Very interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 10: This is the next budget for a number of years,
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  Speaker 10: and that has to be decided because it is very,
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  Speaker 10: very significant. A forecast of it, if it stands as
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  Speaker 10: it is being proposed at present, of going up quite
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  Speaker 10: significantly in quite a lot of countries, particularly more right-wing countries,
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  Speaker 10: if you want to call them that, don't really want
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  Speaker 10: to see that. But, of course, there's defence and everything
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  Speaker 10: else that needs to be paid for. And in order
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  Speaker 10: for that to be done, then you need to cut
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  Speaker 10: back on other things, including some of the regional funds.
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  Speaker 10: So there is a bit of a concern about– and agriculture–
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  Speaker 10: So there is a bit of concern about what that
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  Speaker 10: would all mean. And more traditionally, agricultural countries don't like it.
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  Speaker 10: So there is an awful lot of that going on.
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  Speaker 2: Now, we had the Fed raising interest rates, much to
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  Speaker 2: Trump's ire. We had the ECB doing the same, Japan
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  Speaker 2: doing the same for the first time in a very
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  Speaker 2: long time. But we had the Bank of England not changing,
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  Speaker 2: holding steady, despite the fact that inflation had ticked up there.
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  Speaker 2: And they do expect energy to tick up, too. What gives?
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  Speaker 10: Yes, I think there is a worry for the future.
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  Speaker 10: Inflation has gone up to 3.1% from 2.9%, which is
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  Speaker 10: way above the target rate of 2%, of course. But
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  Speaker 10: so have the other countries seen their inflation go up,
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  Speaker 10: but they all reacted and the Bank of England has not.
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  Speaker 10: The interesting thing is that what they're saying is that
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  Speaker 10: it wasn't unanimous, by the way, it was six to
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  Speaker 10: hold and three to increase inflation. But the ones who
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  Speaker 10: voted for hold say that we haven't seen the inflation
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  Speaker 10: spread across the economy in ways that would worry them
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  Speaker 10: at present, which includes wages, which are pretty benign in
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  Speaker 10: terms of the way that they're growing. And also core
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  Speaker 10: inflation is steady. Food prices are really not rising at present.
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  Speaker 10: Very surprising that, in fact. And therefore, let's wait and see.
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  Speaker 10: But the reality is that Oil prices have increased further
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  Speaker 10: in the last few weeks and the likelihood of it
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  Speaker 10: all being reflected more across the economy is increasing. So
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  Speaker 10: the markets are anticipating that there will be an increase
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  Speaker 10: in interest rates in the UK as well, possibly November
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  Speaker 10: and then another one in January.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much for the update. As always, Vicky
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  Speaker 2: Price with the business. It is 24 minutes after five.
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  Speaker 2: So you've got two state elections. One is in Berlin
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  Speaker 2: and then one is on a state in the Baltic
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  Speaker 2: coast in Germany. And one of them has gone far right, AFD,
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  Speaker 2: like the state election we had a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: And the other one in Berlin has gone to the left.
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  Speaker 2: And that's not good news for the CDU and for
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  Speaker 2: the leader Merz, who is the Chancellor of Germany right now.
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  Speaker 2: And he's got poor approval ratings. He was down, I think,
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  Speaker 2: 10 percentage points in the last poll. Rumours he could
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  Speaker 2: even be replaced mid-term in a chancelless swap. Well, those
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  Speaker 2: rumours aren't going to go away in a hurry, especially
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  Speaker 2: after a result, the clobbering he's been given in state
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  Speaker 2: elections today and two weeks ago. Newstalk ZB. Newstalk ZB,
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  Speaker 2: 27 minutes after five. There's a weird thing happening. Well,
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  Speaker 2: is it weird or has it been happening for a
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  Speaker 2: while and is it a race to the bottom? A
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  Speaker 2: weird thing happening with parents, responsibility and the state. Kids
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  Speaker 2: are either misbehaving or not learning properly. Parents are putting
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  Speaker 2: their hands up and the state is having to regulate
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  Speaker 2: what kids can and can't do. I was watching the
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  Speaker 2: news last night and there was a researcher on there
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  Speaker 2: telling the story of an early childhood teacher. Teacher said
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  Speaker 2: that parents had turned up with their toddler to the
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  Speaker 2: centre and handed over an iPad with the kid and
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  Speaker 2: said that the child would not eat any meals, i.e.
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't eat lunch without being plugged into an iPad. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's outrageous. You can't tell me parents haven't heard that
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  Speaker 2: screen time is bad news. Remember, EC is for kids
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  Speaker 2: who are like three months to five years old. So
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  Speaker 2: perhaps to offset the kid being allowed to do whatever
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  Speaker 2: they want at home, National wants to ban screens in
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  Speaker 2: class for toddlers. In the UK at the moment, you've
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  Speaker 2: got the state now going after parents whose kids are
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  Speaker 2: behaving badly and turning into crooks. If your kid commits crimes,
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  Speaker 2: you could soon lose your benefit or be sent to
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  Speaker 2: prison or be fined for your kid's bad behaviour. So
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  Speaker 2: we have the state basically saying that parents are not
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  Speaker 2: controlling their kids, either on screens or on the streets,
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  Speaker 2: and so steps in to parent for them or use
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  Speaker 2: punishment to force a parent to parent properly. What the
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  Speaker 2: hell is wrong with parents? That's my question this morning.
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  Speaker 2: 28 minutes after 5, 9292 is the number to text.
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  Speaker 2: Bad news for Albanese on the poll front as well.
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  Speaker 2: So you've got two more rate hikes coming from the
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  Speaker 2: central bank there, from the Reserve Bank in Australia. Before Christmas,
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  Speaker 2: you've got petrol prices and you've got a new news
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: poll poll out. Here's what it says. Labour is down.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: This is as Albo goes off to the UN General
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Assembly in New York this week. down from 29 to
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: 27 percent that is its lowest support for the alp
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: since april of 2012 which is not great and it's
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: within a percent of how badly julia gillard took the
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: party in total their primary vote is down from 37
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: percent 12 months ago to 27 today news talk zb
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: gavin in the uk next.
• 17:51
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• 18:02
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• 18:09
  Speaker 2: 24 away from 6, you're on Newstalk ZB for your
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Monday morning. Great to have your company. Another supermarket bust-up
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: from the politicians. We'll talk about that before top of
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the hour. We'll head to the UK. Parents there could
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: be sent to the slammer for their kids' crimes. Some
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: of you will love that. And to the UN, Michelle Bachelet,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: who I mentioned the other day, could become the next
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Antonio Guterres. This is the UN Secretary-General. He finishes at Christmas,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and then they need a new one, so they're going
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: to do the elections. Remember Helen Clark tried to be
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: the first female... It looks like we'll get our first woman.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: So former president of Chile, Michelle Bachelet, she was in
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: the sort of, well, she was in the running. She
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: was a talked about, most talked about candidate. Anyway, she's withdrawn.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: They've had a straw poll, an informal one, held Friday.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Her support collapsed. There's seven candidates left standing. And the
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: lead in that most recent poll was another woman, Rebecca Grinspan,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: who is out of Costa Rica. A couple of quick messages.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: One from Joan. Ryan, I've said it for years. Teachers
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and police have been to blame for a long time.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: It's time we put the responsibility back on parents. Not unreasonable, Joan. Ryan,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: remember parents these days are mainly Gen Zs. They don't
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: like having to work and put in effort. I think
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: in their eyes, once they have had the baby, it's
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: job done. Jan.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: We're only three minutes away from six. Let's go to
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: our reporter's column. Good morning.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Morning, Ryan.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: You've got a TV ad being filmed down there.
• 19:40
  Speaker 11: Yeah, a major international television commercial production is here for
• 19:43
  Speaker 11: the next 10 days, led by Exit Films, and they're
• 19:47
  Speaker 11: filming at multiple locations across the city.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: From today.
• 19:51
  Speaker 11: The company's previously shot big budget ads for the likes
• 19:54
  Speaker 11: of Adidas, Apple, PlayStation and Google, but it's unknown who the.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Client is here in Dunedin.
• 20:00
  Speaker 11: The City Council says the large crews expected to attract
• 20:02
  Speaker 11: attention and temporary traffic controls, including stop-go management, will be
• 20:07
  Speaker 11: in place at the locations, which are also a mystery.
• 20:11
  Speaker 11: It says the production should bring significant local economic benefits
• 20:14
  Speaker 11: and showcase Dunedin to an international audience.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Half of Dunedinites will be hoping it's a Sydney Sweeney ad,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: of course, for obvious reasons. How's your weather?
• 20:23
  Speaker 11: Mainly, that'll stop the traffic, there's no doubt about it.
• 20:26
  Speaker 11: Mainly fine. Rain possibly heavy developing this evening. Gusty nor'west
• 20:31
  Speaker 11: is 21 the high today.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Hey, you're trying to promote the stadium there as well,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: aren't you? Forsyth Bar, they're sort of revamping it. Maybe
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: you just need a Sydney Sweeney ad for the stadium
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: and it'd fill itself. Good thinking, Ryan. Good thinking. I'm
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: full of good ideas. Good to have you on, Callum,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: as always. Let's go to Claire in Christchurch. Claire, good morning.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Good morning. You've got some new numbers on the Christchurch
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: mosque attacks.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, the influence of those attacks. Official information released
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: to our newsroom shows almost a third of referrals to
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: the government's digital extremism team last year were linked to
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: the Christchurch attacks. Of course, 51 worshippers were killed when
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: the Sloan gunman opened fire at two of our mosques
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: on March 15, 2019. This report shows that 32% of
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: content referred to the Department of Internal Affairs digital violent
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: extremism team last year related to those attacks occurred It
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: also reveals 783 terrorism alerts linked to the attacks were
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: issued across 13 separate platforms through Tech Against Terrorism's alert system.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: How's your weather, Claire?
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Should be mainly fine to start the week. North-easterlies turning
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: north-west a bit later and a high of 20.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: All right, you enjoy. Thank you. Max in Wellington. Morning, Max.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Nice to have you on, Max. Slow recovery for this
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: police officer allegedly hit by a stolen car.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a young cop on the beat was called to
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: lay road spikes near Palmerston North about a month ago
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: with reports of a fleeing stolen vehicle driven by two youths,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: presumably trying to dodge the spikes. These two crashed into
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: a car. The cop was standing behind, hit him. He
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: was thrown into another vehicle nearby, very seriously injured. The
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: good news is that that cop has now just been
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: able to start walking again for the first time. He
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: is still unable to speak but can respond in other ways.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: He shares a toddler with his partner. His family's been
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: by his bedside since the crash. Police say it's very
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: rare for an officer to be so seriously injured in
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: the line of duty in this way. Two teenagers, 14
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: and 15, are charged and going through the youth court.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: But again, the good news is he's on the improve
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: just very slowly.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Very sad indeed. How's the wither?
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Mostly fine today with gusty norwesterlies, 14.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Nice one. Thanks, Max. And Neva's in Auckland. Good morning, Neva.
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: Good morning.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: So Auckland's mayor, Wayne Brown, has got some pet peeves
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: and he's got some friends telling him their pet peeves.
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 22:59
  Speaker 12: And so nearly 900 Aucklanders, now they have submitted ideas
• 23:03
  Speaker 12: to Wayne Brown because he had this campaign, it was
• 23:06
  Speaker 12: called the Quick Fix campaign, and he was you know, saying,
• 23:09
  Speaker 12: come on, everybody, write in, tell me what your pet
• 23:12
  Speaker 12: peeves are. Now, and this was for everyday, you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 12: like the transport issues. So he was calling for action
• 23:18
  Speaker 12: on the everyday transport issues. So the biggest grumbles, long
• 23:22
  Speaker 12: waits at traffic lights. That's what these 900 Aucklanders have said.
• 23:25
  Speaker 12: Road layouts causing congestion. And on-street parking blocking traffic lanes.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: That's mine as well.
• 23:32
  Speaker 12: So, yeah, not that I wrote in or anything like that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: So now Brown is saying, look, improvements, they should start
• 23:37
  Speaker 12: to be seen within, he didn't say how many weeks,
• 23:40
  Speaker 12: but weeks, within weeks. And submissions now being assessed.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I like the idea of that. I like the idea
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: of what he's doing. How's our weather?
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: Cloud increasing throughout the day. Isolated chance of late morning.
• 23:49
  Speaker 12: 16 the high here in Auckland.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Brilliant, Neva. Thank you very much. It is 18 minutes
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: away from six. You're on Newstalk ZB. Coming up, well, actually,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you very quickly the weather in Dunedin because
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I skipped over that in my excitement over a Sydney
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Sweeney ad. Mainly fine today. Possible early shower. Rain possibly
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: heavy coming. Developing in the evening. Gusty northwesterlies. Change lighter southwesterly.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Your high today, Dunedin, 21. Your low is six. There
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: you go. It is 18 minutes away from six now.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: We will get to the UK with Gavin next.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: International Correspondence with NZI Insurance. Peace of mind for New
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Zealand business.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Quarter to six, News Talk ZB. We'll do supermarkets in
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: a second. First, we'll go to Gavin Gray, our UK-Europe correspondent. Gavin,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: we know that Trump was threatening to, you know, basically
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: annex and take over Greenland, and now the US and
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Denmark have done a deal on Greenland, but we don't
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: know what's in it. Do we know whether it's much
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: different to what they already have in place?
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Well, that's the speculation. Of course, Donald Trump is raving
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: about this deal that he's managed to secure. Critics would say, yes,
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: of course he is, because he's got midterm elections coming
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: up and the opinion polls in America suggest he's not
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: going to do very well. He's saying that nothing can
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: happen in Greenland without basically his say so. And America
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: is effectively taken over Greenland and all the rest of it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: But this country, which is hugely rich in very critical
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: minerals and is strategically in a very important place, as
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: it does sort of spanning a huge area between the
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: northeastern edge of Canada and the northwestern edge of Russia,
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: is something that Donald Trump has threatened potentially even to
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: take by force. So we look like we've avoided that.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: But exactly what has Denmark, because it comes under the
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: kingdom of Denmark, given up in order to get this
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: agreement done? And that we don't know. But Ryan, sources
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: close to the deal just say it's not that different
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: from what America agreed in 1951. In other words, there's
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: an Air Force base there, and they can add military
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: personnel to it. They have over just 100 military personnel
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: permanently stationed there. But the idea this is some big
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: win from America, well, let's see the fine detail.
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Now, what about UK parents? So they've already been hit
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: with potentially– counseling sessions or fines if their kids are
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: committing crimes. Now they could lose the benefit or maybe
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: even go to jail themselves.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: Yes, there is this feeling that parents need to be
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: made more responsible for the actions of any way with children. Now,
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: we did see, of course, back in the Southport killings
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: in 2024, where a man called Axel Rudabakana stabbed young
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: girls in northwest England at a Taylor Swift dance holiday event.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Tuition.
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: And it basically stabbed them and murdered three young girls.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: And many at the time thought, well, hang on a minute.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: He was still living at home. He managed to get
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: these knives. He caught a taxi to this dance school.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: So what were the parents doing? And indeed, many people
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: have criticized the parents for having clear as indication that
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: the child, Axel Rudabakana, who was in his early 20s,
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: that they should have known more about what he was planning. Now,
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: they have said, no, we didn't know anything and so forth.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: But the inquiry into that clearly suggests that there perhaps
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: should be more focus on what the parents do and
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: don't do with children, but also young adults who are
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: living still at home. And the idea now that those
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: parents may face a prison sentence or, if they're on benefits,
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: lose their state benefits for their children's crimes is something new.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: It would only be, we're being told, in the most
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: extreme cases, Ryan. But this is something that I think
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: the government is thinking, yeah, there's some quite good publicity
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: in this for the government. It shows we're acting tough.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: But whether it'll actually happen or not is another matter.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: After all, so-called parenting orders— which are facing punishments to
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: parents on what their children are doing, declined from more
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: than 1,000 orders in 2009 to 10 to just 33
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: a couple of years back. So we're waiting to see
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: just how realistic this is.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: All right, Gavin Gray, our UK Europe correspondent, thanks for
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: your time this morning. By the way, the German Chancellor,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Friedrich Merz, has just held a press conference. This is
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: after he's taken a clobbering in two more state elections.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: His CDU party They have taken a hit. This is
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: exit polls that are saying that the right wing party
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: in one case and left wing party in the other
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: have got ahead of them on the votes. He's saying
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere. I mean, he's only 16 odd
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: months into his four year term, but there was talk
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: maybe you'd have to. be frog-marched out of there. He's saying,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere at this point, 11 minutes away
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: from six. Everyone's rushing to get their supermarket policies out there,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: aren't they? Who looks toughest on the prices? The Nats
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: want to split foodstuffs, creating a third retail business, so
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: two plus one. Labour wants to split both wholesale from retail.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: This campaign is descending into a hysteria.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: As soon as it becomes acceptable to attack a legitimate
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: business for short-term political gain, the only question left.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Is, Who's next?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Arina Williams, Labour's Commerce and Consumer Affairs spokesperson on the show. Arina,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: good morning. Good morning.
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: Thanks for having me.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Nice to have you. Very quickly, I want to start
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: with your press release you put out yesterday. In it,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: you say, National promised to fix the cost of living
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: and bring grocery prices down. Since National took office, the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: price of bread has gone up 66%, butter 72%, beef
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: mince 36%, cheese 31%, milk 33%. Overall, has food price
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: inflation gone up by more or less than it did
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: under Labour?
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: Food price inflation has gone up under National and food
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: prices have been consistently high. We've got two policies to
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: deal with that. One is the price gouging policy that
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: will stop that when we bring in this law and
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: price gouging will need to stop. And the next is
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: our break up for the supermarket that over time will
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: bring down prices with more competition.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: So just to clarify, Nationals went up more than Labour's
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: or Labour's went up more than National's?
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: Inflation around the world was higher when Labour was in office.
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: The point is that we need a fix for New
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: Zealand's market, where two large supermarkets dominate 80% market share
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: and can keep charging higher prices no matter what inflation
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: is doing.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: What did food price inflation, what did it go up
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: by under Labour?
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: Food price inflation was running hot around the world. In
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: countries we compared ourselves, it was between 10% and 15%.
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: New Zealand was around 12.8%.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: It was 21% up under Labour, 6.8% up under National.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I only make the point because you're using very selective numbers,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: aren't you, with mince and cheese and milk. If you
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: could use the overall number to make yourselves look better,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I suppose you would have. When it comes to breaking
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: up the wholesale from the retail, when does that happen?
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Does that happen in the first 100 days? Does it
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: happen immediately? Immediately.
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: That happens in the first 100 days with legislation to
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: bring in the rules, which are already proposed by the
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: Commerce Commission to see the industry transition to those two wholesalers.
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: National could have done this when Woolworths brought a credible
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: plan to transition the industry to separate wholesalers in 2025,
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: but they didn't.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: So what report are you basing all of this on?
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: This is based on the Commerce Commission's work in 2025-2026 report.
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: to determine whether a wholesale retail split was something that
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: this government would oversee. But they've spent three years trying
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: to come up with a solution which wasn't a wholesale
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: retail split, which is the most sensible and straightforward breakup,
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: because they couldn't do that when Labour introduced it in 2022-23.
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: They just needed something different.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Arina Williams, Labour's Commerce Consumer Affairs spokesperson. It is eight
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: minutes away from six.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on Early Edition with Spark for Business. Technology
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: that keeps business moving. Newstalk ZB.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Six away from six, Newstalk ZB. We've been talking about
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Germany a lot this morning and we heard from Vicky
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Price that the Europeans are trying to pass a budget
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: and they are worried they won't be able to pass
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: a budget because you've got French elections next year. You've
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: got potential change of Chancellor over in Germany. You've also
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: got an Italian election happening next year. And ahead of that,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Maloney is trying to curry favour with the base and
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: she's banning burqas in schools. She also wants to put
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: a limit on the number of foreign students who are
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: in each class. Five to six. Morning, Mike. Greetings.
• 32:22
  Speaker 13: Happy Monday. And you, how are you feeling? Well, I'm
• 32:25
  Speaker 13: a bit disappointed, to be fair. I don't like the way...
• 32:29
  Speaker 13: Two things I don't like about what happened last night. One,
• 32:31
  Speaker 13: throwing stuff at referees.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Super uncool.
• 32:34
  Speaker 13: And the other thing I don't like about it is
• 32:36
  Speaker 13: blaming the referee.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: You can blame the referee.
• 32:38
  Speaker 13: Referee's there to be blamed, and the referees in the NRL,
• 32:41
  Speaker 13: if you followed the NRL for years, refereeing or officiating
• 32:45
  Speaker 13: in the NRL for years has been really ordinary. But
• 32:48
  Speaker 13: you take the referee out of the game by scoring
• 32:49
  Speaker 13: lots of points and thrashing the other side, and therefore
• 32:52
  Speaker 13: it doesn't become an issue.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: It swings both ways, doesn't it? Yeah, it does.
• 32:56
  Speaker 13: I'm sad for the Warriors. I'm sad for the season.
• 32:59
  Speaker 13: Because what you do, I mean, having gone through so
• 33:02
  Speaker 13: many times before to the playoffs, if you scrape in
• 33:04
  Speaker 13: If you're seventh or eighth, you know, maybe you win,
• 33:07
  Speaker 13: maybe you don't. It's been better than you might have expected.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: It's getting close.
• 33:09
  Speaker 13: But when you're top two, in fact, you could argue
• 33:12
  Speaker 13: really about the points differentiation thing. We were first, along
• 33:15
  Speaker 13: with the Panthers.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: None of it matters, though, does it?
• 33:17
  Speaker 13: None of it matters. At the end of the day,
• 33:18
  Speaker 13: those sides need to carry on and go all the way.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: It's doing all the work. It's getting all excited. And
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: then it's been let down at the 11th hour, isn't it?
• 33:27
  Speaker 13: The recipe for me, I would have been happy with
• 33:29
  Speaker 13: the grand final. So once you get to a grand final,
• 33:32
  Speaker 13: it's crapshoot. Anyone can win or lose, right? I would
• 33:34
  Speaker 13: have been happy with the grand final. Anything short of
• 33:36
  Speaker 13: that would have been a disappointing year. And so it's
• 33:39
  Speaker 13: a disappointing year.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't change your enthusiasm for supporting the team
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: at all. No, no, no. Which is the fascinating point
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: about the Warriors. It doesn't matter how many times they
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: get knocked to the face.
• 33:49
  Speaker 13: I was saying to Sammy, you look at the fans,
• 33:51
  Speaker 13: if you saw the pictures of the fans greeting the
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  Speaker 13: players as they arrived, there is no other sport in
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  Speaker 13: this country, including the All Blacks, that generates that level
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  Speaker 13: of energy and excitement. And so there's something magical about that.
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  Speaker 13: And we'll be back next year and they've got a
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  Speaker 13: good side and they've got a good coach and all
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  Speaker 13: that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But.
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  Speaker 13: The whole point of professional sport is you win.
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  Speaker 2: And we didn't.
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  Speaker 13: Simple as that. Anyway, we'll talk about that with the
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  Speaker 13: Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. Mike next.
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