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- 0:10Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large and our Drunk Collider podcast,
- 0:12Speaker 1: a podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
- 0:14Speaker 1: the world around us. It's how very excited we are
- 0:16Speaker 1: about them. I am Ariel Caston and with me as
- 0:19Speaker 1: always is the fantastic Jonathan Strickland.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Don't worry, be happy like everybody else.
- 0:28Speaker 1: You said that was such a serious face, Jonathan. I
- 0:31Speaker 1: know that none of our listeners can see it, but
- 0:34Speaker 1: it's ill.
- 0:35Speaker 2: I'm I am evoking something that I'm sure we're going
- 0:39Speaker 2: to be chatting about.
- 0:40Speaker 1: In just a moment, oh for sure.
- 0:43Speaker 2: But before we get into all of that chatter, because
- 0:46Speaker 2: we're excited, we actually talked about the possibility of doing
- 0:50Speaker 2: a special episode that would just be us talking about
- 0:55Speaker 2: I'll go ahead and say it, talking about plural of
- 0:57Speaker 2: us because we've both watched the first two episodes and
- 1:00Speaker 2: the third one comes out tonight, and it's the kind
- 1:04Speaker 2: of show. It's like an old school show where you
- 1:08Speaker 2: want to talk about it around the water cooler right yes,
- 1:11Speaker 2: the day after you see it. So anyway, we talked
- 1:14Speaker 2: about doing a special episode that was just that, but
- 1:17Speaker 2: instead you're getting a normal episode that also will have
- 1:21Speaker 2: some pluribus in it. But before we get to that,
- 1:24Speaker 2: we do have a question, which was my turn this
- 1:26Speaker 2: week to ask a question. Yes, and I came up
- 1:29Speaker 2: with the goofy question of what is a property you
- 1:33Speaker 2: would like to see turned into a musical? Because we've
- 1:37Speaker 2: often talked about kind of our disdain for how Broadway
- 1:42Speaker 2: has taken various ip and then just like things that
- 1:46Speaker 2: were established as movies or television or whatever, then turned
- 1:50Speaker 2: it into a musical. But if you had your choice,
- 1:53Speaker 2: what would you pick?
- 1:54Speaker 1: So you mean something from a TV or movie that
- 1:56Speaker 1: got put on Broadway? Correct, I'm just gonna like clarification
- 2:00Speaker 1: about question.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Well, kind of like how Beetlejuice has been turned into
- 2:03Speaker 2: a musical.
- 2:04Speaker 1: Okay, because my my instant answer is I couldn't tell
- 2:10Speaker 1: if it was I can't tell if it's a cop
- 2:11Speaker 1: out or not because it is technically already a musical,
- 2:17Speaker 1: but it's never been on Broadway.
- 2:19Speaker 2: And that is Gallivant, So you would want Gallivant to
- 2:23Speaker 2: be adapted into like a two I think that counts
- 2:26Speaker 2: because is turned into a stage musical and that was
- 2:30Speaker 2: a full two season series.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Although I saw that, yeah, and I saw that has
- 2:35Speaker 1: been hotel is getting a short little Broadway performance something too.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Okay. I mean I'm not we aren't Zennials, so we
- 2:46Speaker 2: don't really get it. Yeah. I so I wrote down Highlander.
- 2:53Speaker 1: That would be fun.
- 2:54Speaker 2: It would be a fun musical because and after a
- 2:58Speaker 2: musical is like death becomes I feel like you could
- 3:02Speaker 2: have a campy, fun Highlander musical and you could even
- 3:07Speaker 2: include well, I mean, if you could get the rights,
- 3:10Speaker 2: you can maybe include some of the queen songs in
- 3:12Speaker 2: there too. Yeah, there's actually a queen song in Highlander
- 3:16Speaker 2: called Don't Lose your Head, which would be great as
- 3:19Speaker 2: a stage musical number.
- 3:21Speaker 1: There's something similar to that in Six the Musical. I'm like, oh, man,
- 3:27Speaker 1: you said Highlander, and I got an idea for another
- 3:29Speaker 1: one that I was like, well this, this would be good.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got it. Okay, so I have two
- 3:33Speaker 1: other ones. The problem is, yeah, we don't. I don't often.
- 3:37Speaker 1: It's never. I never want a property that isn't a
- 3:39Speaker 1: musical to be turned into a stage musical. It's usually
- 3:44Speaker 1: I've become a fan of them after the proof of
- 3:46Speaker 1: concept has proven that it was a good idea. You know, sure, Yeah,
- 3:51Speaker 1: But if I if I were to pick two non
- 3:53Speaker 1: musical things to do. Far Escape because it's done everything else, sure,
- 3:59Speaker 1: and then the other one would be, oh goodness, I
- 4:02Speaker 1: just had it. What was it?
- 4:03Speaker 2: Well, let me talk about I'll talk about a couple
- 4:06Speaker 2: of others, and I'll mention what inspired me to ask
- 4:09Speaker 2: this question. It's that in New York and it's off Broadway.
- 4:12Speaker 2: It's not a Broadway show. But in New York there
- 4:15Speaker 2: was a limited run of bat Boy the Musical, which
- 4:19Speaker 2: is based off a ridiculous tabloid news article that was
- 4:24Speaker 2: in an old weekly World News. If you remember that
- 4:27Speaker 2: tabloid of a supposed half bat half human monster discovered
- 4:35Speaker 2: I think it was West Virginia, and they some folks
- 4:40Speaker 2: turned that into a musical. And I saw that musical
- 4:45Speaker 2: twenty two years ago in Atlanta because Dad's Garage did
- 4:52Speaker 2: a production of it. And it's ludicrous and it's super
- 4:56Speaker 2: dark and twisted, like crazy twisted. And I was curious
- 5:02Speaker 2: how much of that had been updated and perhaps softened
- 5:07Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, and apparently not not some of
- 5:10Speaker 2: the big ones. Some of the big ones apparently are
- 5:13Speaker 2: still in there. But that's what inspired me to ask
- 5:14Speaker 2: the question.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Yeah, gotcha, my friend who was in Shucked and Dead
- 5:19Speaker 1: Outlaw and all Head over heels was in this bat
- 5:23Speaker 1: Boy production.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Oh do you do you know who he happened to play?
- 5:29Speaker 1: Look it up, Yes, now he is. He's going over
- 5:33Speaker 1: this month to be the dentist in Little Shop of Horrors.
- 5:38Speaker 2: Oh nice, what a great role.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Yeah, he's well and he's phenomenal. He played Come on
- 5:46Speaker 1: play bill Rick Taylor.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Okay, so he's one of the one of the humans.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Edgar is the name of the bat Boy I anyway,
- 5:57Speaker 2: that's what inspired me. So the two that I thought
- 6:00Speaker 2: of before Highlander, one of them was Sword and Swords
- 6:05Speaker 2: and Sorcery. Are no Wizards and Warriors. Not Sword and Sorcery.
- 6:08Speaker 2: That's a schlocky eighties movie. But Wizards of Warriors was
- 6:11Speaker 2: a schlocky eighties television show only lasted like eight episodes
- 6:16Speaker 2: before it was canceled, had like Julia Duffy in it
- 6:19Speaker 2: as a princess. It was ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. It will
- 6:23Speaker 2: never be turned into a musical because I think only
- 6:25Speaker 2: eight people ever saw it, and I'm one of them.
- 6:29Speaker 2: But the other one was I thought it'd be really
- 6:32Speaker 2: funny to have Terminator the musical.
- 6:36Speaker 1: I mean, Universal Studios kind of had that for a while.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Really it wasn't a musical, but they had a live
- 6:40Speaker 1: Terminator show.
- 6:41Speaker 2: That's not the same thing at all.
- 6:43Speaker 1: No, it's not.
- 6:44Speaker 2: I want the big musical number of your clothes, give
- 6:47Speaker 2: them to me.
- 6:49Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like now you've you've relegated us
- 6:53Speaker 1: to doing a mashup or a fake script for next week.
- 6:56Speaker 2: The Terminator the musical.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a pitch pitch meeting, so to speak. Two
- 7:02Speaker 1: others that I could do. I remember the other one
- 7:03Speaker 1: I was going to talk about, and then I remembered
- 7:05Speaker 1: another one. Labyrinth. I think would make a great stage
- 7:08Speaker 1: musical and.
- 7:10Speaker 2: It would help make up for the fact that the
- 7:12Speaker 2: Muppets had a very brief Broadway debut this month, but
- 7:16Speaker 2: the show got canceled like it's ending early. Yeah.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Yeah. The other I think to go to another thing
- 7:25Speaker 1: that absolutely has no no musical in it, but I
- 7:30Speaker 1: think would really fall into like The Beetlejuice, Harry Potter
- 7:35Speaker 1: and The Curse Child, the Stranger Things kind of play
- 7:40Speaker 1: at least play musical thing WandaVision. I think you could
- 7:44Speaker 1: do some amazing stage magic for that.
- 7:46Speaker 2: That would be fun. I would also include lots of
- 7:50Speaker 2: fun sets in order to reflect the different time periods. Yeah,
- 7:55Speaker 2: that could be really cool. Something that is not a musical,
- 7:59Speaker 2: but Ariel and I are looking forward to is a
- 8:03Speaker 2: performance of Twelfth Night. We've seen some some excerpts and
- 8:09Speaker 2: Peter Dinklige as Malvolio is so funny.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Yeah, Sandra Oh is playing Olivia Olivia, and then Lapeta
- 8:22Speaker 1: Niongo and her her brother are playing the Twins, which
- 8:25Speaker 1: is really cool. There is a little bit of music
- 8:27Speaker 1: because Lapita does.
- 8:29Speaker 2: Like kind of rap rapping. Yeah, incredibly cringey in the
- 8:33Speaker 2: best way, like purposefully cringey. I'm not I'm not saying
- 8:37Speaker 2: that her performance was cringey. I'm saying she was purposefully
- 8:41Speaker 2: doing the cringe and I loved it. I love Peter
- 8:46Speaker 2: Dinklich's instincts, Like, yeah, he just he He has such
- 8:51Speaker 2: great moments on stage as he's being this cantankerous, insufferable
- 8:59Speaker 2: pretend chiss servant. That's so good.
- 9:03Speaker 1: I know. I talked about on a previous episode of
- 9:05Speaker 1: this show how I had watched the last time Great
- 9:08Speaker 1: Performances did a Twelfth Night on PBS years ago, like
- 9:12Speaker 1: in the nineties or early two thousands, and it was
- 9:13Speaker 1: Helen Hut and Paul Rudd, and that was such a wonderful,
- 9:19Speaker 1: wonderful performance, and it was very, very grounded. This one
- 9:22Speaker 1: feels like it really leans into the camp and I
- 9:24Speaker 1: love that there is space in the world for both
- 9:26Speaker 1: of these to be such a brilliant adaptation of the play.
- 9:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw some clips because I got I went
- 9:32Speaker 2: down a rabbit hole after I saw the Peter Dinklich
- 9:35Speaker 2: Malvolio yellow tights and crossed Garters scene, and I saw
- 9:41Speaker 2: a clip from a production in which Stephen Frye was Malvolio.
- 9:46Speaker 2: But in that production it was at the Globe Theater
- 9:50Speaker 2: and it was an all male production, so they were
- 9:53Speaker 2: doing the Shakespearean thing of even the female roles are
- 9:59Speaker 2: play by men, which makes Twelfth Night particularly tricky to
- 10:05Speaker 2: think about, because if you are unfamiliar with the play,
- 10:09Speaker 2: Viola disguises herself as a man named Cesarro and attempts
- 10:15Speaker 2: to woo Olivia on behalf of his her master and Osinio,
- 10:23Speaker 2: and so in Shakespeare's time you had essentially a young
- 10:27Speaker 2: man playing Viola who disguises herself as a man. And
- 10:33Speaker 2: so it's a man playing a woman disguised as a man.
- 10:35Speaker 2: So it's the layers of gender confusion, right and misidentification,
- 10:42Speaker 2: including a meta textual one, And so I could, I
- 10:47Speaker 2: could appreciate what they were going for, but I gotta
- 10:50Speaker 2: tell you, Ariel from the lens of twenty twenty five,
- 10:53Speaker 2: it was a bit of a shock to see all
- 10:57Speaker 2: the roles being played by male actors.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, I could, I could imagine. I
- 11:06Speaker 1: don't I don't hate it, but I also like, I
- 11:10Speaker 1: like when you take casts and you completely reverse.
- 11:13Speaker 2: The Oh yeah, you gender flip everybody. Yeah, that can
- 11:16Speaker 2: be fun too. That's how I mean. When I saw
- 11:18Speaker 2: King Lear, Lear was played by an actress, as was
- 11:22Speaker 2: one of who was it? Was it Gloucester? I think
- 11:25Speaker 2: Glocester was also played by an actress, But yeah, it was.
- 11:30Speaker 2: It was great. It was a fantastic performance. It did
- 11:33Speaker 2: change things a bit because they didn't change the text
- 11:36Speaker 2: at all. All the all the pronouns and everything remained
- 11:39Speaker 2: the same within the text. But so that does make it,
- 11:44Speaker 2: but I still appreciate it. I still thought it was
- 11:46Speaker 2: a brilliant performance. And that was where Pedero Pascal was
- 11:50Speaker 2: in the cast, and I had no idea who he
- 11:52Speaker 2: was at the time because I had not yet started
- 11:54Speaker 2: watching The Mandalorian.
- 11:56Speaker 1: And I know locally the Shakespeare Company does all female
- 12:00Speaker 1: gests of various Shakespeare plays as well, so I think
- 12:04Speaker 1: that there are all female non binary. I do think
- 12:08Speaker 1: that there is definitely a place for that, because it
- 12:09Speaker 1: does depending on how you do. It changed the context
- 12:14Speaker 1: of the situation.
- 12:15Speaker 2: And it's absolutely yeah. And I say this as someone
- 12:18Speaker 2: like back in the before we started recording, Ariel and
- 12:21Speaker 2: I were talking about the Georgia Renaissance Festival, because it
- 12:24Speaker 2: doesn't matter how long ago it was when we performed there,
- 12:28Speaker 2: eventually conversation will go back around to it.
- 12:31Speaker 1: We spent so many years there.
- 12:33Speaker 2: Yes, we did. And when I first started, I was
- 12:36Speaker 2: part of the Shakespeare Parody Group, and originally the Shakespeare
- 12:40Speaker 2: Parody did shows the classic way in the sense that
- 12:44Speaker 2: all the roles were played by male actors. I was
- 12:47Speaker 2: Juliette twice. I've been Juliette two times, once in twenty nineteen.
- 12:55Speaker 2: But we did have actresses playing the other two parts
- 12:58Speaker 2: in that particular product, so it did kind of even out.
- 13:04Speaker 2: We you know, an actress played Romeo, so it was
- 13:07Speaker 2: kind of a gender flip situation. But in that initial run.
- 13:10Speaker 2: It was five male actors playing all the parts. And
- 13:14Speaker 2: while you know, there was some clowning and some gags
- 13:19Speaker 2: that were based upon that. Like, I think the humor
- 13:23Speaker 2: stands much more strongly if you remove that, because then
- 13:27Speaker 2: you're paying attention to what the jokes actually are instead
- 13:29Speaker 2: of the performance itself being a joke.
- 13:33Speaker 1: I can see that. I can see that. I did.
- 13:35Speaker 1: I did find on social media the other day a
- 13:38Speaker 1: video clip of myself and Lucas doing the Shakespeare for
- 13:41Speaker 1: the Student Days show. Oh yeah, where we had everybody
- 13:45Speaker 1: do death like the kid. We brought kids up on
- 13:49Speaker 1: stage and had them die to various tragic monologues nic
- 13:54Speaker 1: so like so like, uh, the clip is of us
- 13:58Speaker 1: telling a kid to stab himself because we would stab
- 14:01Speaker 1: him and kill them, and then they'd have to do
- 14:02Speaker 1: a death scene on stage. We had a little like
- 14:05Speaker 1: in and out. I don't know, I'm gesturing on the
- 14:08Speaker 1: camera because no one can hear it.
- 14:10Speaker 2: Retractable dagger.
- 14:11Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, so and then Lucas and I both
- 14:15Speaker 1: getting bored stabbing the kids. So while we talk, having
- 14:17Speaker 1: the kids stab himself a whole bunch of times. Good memories.
- 14:20Speaker 1: That that was a very good memory. Affair. Anyhow, that
- 14:23Speaker 1: was a bunny trail.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Well, let us talk now about things that we have watched,
- 14:28Speaker 2: and let's just go ahead and save Pluribus for the
- 14:31Speaker 2: last little bit of it, simply because I know we
- 14:33Speaker 2: both have stuff to say about it. So did you
- 14:36Speaker 2: watch anything other than Pluribus?
- 14:38Speaker 1: Yes, I've been trying to remember as we've been going
- 14:41Speaker 1: through continue to watch task Master. I'm in series three
- 14:45Speaker 1: working backwards, which was only series four was only like
- 14:50Speaker 1: five episodes or series three is only five episodes. Maybe
- 14:53Speaker 1: I'm in series two now. Anyhow, I'm almost fully caught up.
- 14:56Speaker 1: I didn't watch this week's new episode for series twenty,
- 14:59Speaker 1: but uh, because this week's been crazy. I've been watching
- 15:02Speaker 1: Venture Brothers in my in my group watch on Thursday nights. However,
- 15:08Speaker 1: this upcoming week we're switching to mighty nine, which technically
- 15:13Speaker 1: the first episodes out right now, but we're going to
- 15:15Speaker 1: start it next Thursday. And then I watched Deep Cover,
- 15:20Speaker 1: which was that movie with Bryce Dallas, Bryce Dallas Howard
- 15:26Speaker 1: and lo Orlando Bloom and Nick Oh, the one.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Where there they're improvisers and they get picked to be
- 15:34Speaker 2: part of like almost like a like a law enforcement thing.
- 15:37Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the improvis is that get picked
- 15:40Speaker 1: to be a part of a drug sting and then
- 15:44Speaker 1: ridiculousness ensues. What I'll say is everybody really committed to
- 15:49Speaker 1: the character they were playing, and that was very funny,
- 15:51Speaker 1: even though, like the circumstances were so absurd, right, So
- 15:59Speaker 1: everybody did a great jow. They are a really amazing
- 16:02Speaker 1: cast of people in there, and several people from task
- 16:05Speaker 1: Master who I had no idea who they were until
- 16:07Speaker 1: they were on task Master were in it, not including
- 16:10Speaker 1: Nick Muhammad who was also on task Master. Is that
- 16:13Speaker 1: his correct name? Am I getting it right?
- 16:16Speaker 2: I believe? So I don't have it open, so I
- 16:18Speaker 2: can't tell you, yes, yes I am.
- 16:22Speaker 1: And so, like it was fun, it was goofy. It
- 16:25Speaker 1: wasn't like an amazing movie, but it was fun enough.
- 16:28Speaker 2: It was like entertaining.
- 16:30Speaker 1: It was. It was an entertaining, more ridiculous, almost version
- 16:34Speaker 1: of Barry.
- 16:36Speaker 2: I started watching it, and then like at the very beginning,
- 16:39Speaker 2: there was a scene I think it was taking place
- 16:41Speaker 2: in an office, and I got a cringe twinge and
- 16:46Speaker 2: bailed immediately, and I think, oh no, yeah, no, And
- 16:50Speaker 2: I can't even remember what it was that just I
- 16:52Speaker 2: was like it was something that was there was a
- 16:54Speaker 2: moment where I'm just like, oh, I'm not ready to
- 16:57Speaker 2: watch this yet, like one of those where it's just
- 16:59Speaker 2: like I'm not in the right head space to watch it,
- 17:02Speaker 2: which is wild, Like it's wild to be that way
- 17:04Speaker 2: for a comedy, but that is how I felt at
- 17:07Speaker 2: the time.
- 17:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I I I mean it's not great cinema, right,
- 17:16Speaker 1: and it is a little bit cringey, Like the whole
- 17:20Speaker 1: concept's a little bit cringey.
- 17:21Speaker 2: So, I mean improv in itself gets cringey. It's I
- 17:26Speaker 2: love improv. I think improv. I think great improv is
- 17:29Speaker 2: some of the most entertaining stuff you can watch. Bad
- 17:32Speaker 2: improv can also be some of the most entertaining stuff
- 17:35Speaker 2: you can watch, but for totally different reasons, but for sure.
- 17:38Speaker 2: But yeah, there's like cringe is like an intrinsic part
- 17:42Speaker 2: of improv, I feel, Yeah, and you have to surrender
- 17:46Speaker 2: yourself to that as an improviser and not be afraid
- 17:50Speaker 2: of it, or else you're not really gonna entertain anyone.
- 17:53Speaker 1: The entire movie starts with some quote about like having
- 17:57Speaker 1: to be willing to die for comedy.
- 18:00Speaker 2: Yeah, So and that.
- 18:01Speaker 1: Is I mean, that is kind of true. You are
- 18:05Speaker 1: funniest when you fully commit to something and stop caring
- 18:08Speaker 1: about whether you're gonna look ridiculous or not.
- 18:11Speaker 2: Well, for me, what I watched besides Pluribus where Well,
- 18:16Speaker 2: I listened to the first two episodes of Once We
- 18:19Speaker 2: Were Spacemen, which is the podcast by Nathan Fillion and
- 18:24Speaker 2: Alan Tudik who were both in Firefly. That's where they
- 18:28Speaker 2: first met and they've been friends ever since. And yeah,
- 18:32Speaker 2: it's like, it's just like what a good podcast is.
- 18:35Speaker 2: It's like you're in the room while they're having a conversation.
- 18:39Speaker 2: The second episode has Jewel State as a guest, and
- 18:44Speaker 2: she's delightful too. Actually has a much more serious conversation
- 18:47Speaker 2: in the second one, And by serious, I don't mean
- 18:50Speaker 2: like like dour or anything like that. It's just they
- 18:54Speaker 2: actually talk a lot about the industry and what it's
- 18:58Speaker 2: like to work within it and how challenging it can be.
- 19:02Speaker 2: And it was just really a great conversation to hear
- 19:05Speaker 2: from people who are working actors. And I also I
- 19:10Speaker 2: watched I started watching Harley Quinn again. You might remember
- 19:15Speaker 2: I was watching that series for a long.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Time and I forgot you hadn't finished it. No.
- 19:18Speaker 2: But now I'm in the final well, the most recent season,
- 19:21Speaker 2: season five. I'm in it. Have not finished it, but
- 19:25Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it. I watch the first three episodes of
- 19:29Speaker 2: Welcome to darry the IT prequel, and I am of
- 19:34Speaker 2: a mixed opinion on that one. Parts of it I
- 19:38Speaker 2: think are really good, parts of it I think are
- 19:42Speaker 2: really bad, and parts of it I think are totally
- 19:45Speaker 2: perplexing and I don't understand. But I can't really talk
- 19:51Speaker 2: about what I thought was really bad without getting into spoilers.
- 19:55Speaker 2: So rather than rather than spoil stuff and other people
- 19:59Speaker 2: might think it's fine, but I thought it was dumb.
- 20:04Speaker 2: And here's the unfortunate thing, Ariel, It's one of the
- 20:08Speaker 2: major plot through lines of the series that I think
- 20:12Speaker 2: is dumb. It's not like it's like, oh, this character
- 20:15Speaker 2: is dumb, or this little side story is dumb. No,
- 20:19Speaker 2: this is a main storyline for the series, and I
- 20:23Speaker 2: think it's super dumb.
- 20:25Speaker 1: That's unfortunate. I mean, but you know, you and I
- 20:30Speaker 1: have both talked about how we're like, we don't really
- 20:33Speaker 1: feel like this is necessary in the first place.
- 20:36Speaker 2: So yeah, I because you already know where this story goes, right,
- 20:40Speaker 2: you already know that that penny Wise isn't going to
- 20:44Speaker 2: be defeated at the end of this series, because he
- 20:47Speaker 2: comes back for it both chapter one and chapter two,
- 20:51Speaker 2: so you know they can't get rid of him. But
- 20:54Speaker 2: that raises other questions based upon things that are happening,
- 20:57Speaker 2: where you're like, yeah, they don't get rid of him,
- 21:01Speaker 2: but this other thing is going on, and I don't
- 21:04Speaker 2: understand how it can resolve and then not be something
- 21:09Speaker 2: that anyone knows anything about by the time it Chapter
- 21:13Speaker 2: one comes around, like you cannot just cover it up
- 21:17Speaker 2: kind of thing. And I get that in dairy people
- 21:22Speaker 2: are are kind of made to ignore and forget stuff,
- 21:26Speaker 2: and that's part of the magic of penny Wise, like
- 21:29Speaker 2: part of its influence. But even so, it's just one
- 21:32Speaker 2: of those things where I'm like, this makes no gosh
- 21:35Speaker 2: darn sense, but anyway, I'm not gonna spoil it so
- 21:40Speaker 2: other people might really enjoy it, and there's nothing wrong
- 21:42Speaker 2: with that. I just found it really dumb. And then
- 21:45Speaker 2: the other thing we both watched, which is plur of Us.
- 21:51Speaker 2: This was the this is the series that Vince Gilligan
- 21:54Speaker 2: is doing. He's the creator of Breaking Bad and Better
- 21:57Speaker 2: Call Saul Hey. There ellen c Family. This is Jonathan
- 22:01Speaker 2: from the editor Bay, and I'm just coming in to
- 22:04Speaker 2: say when we recorded this, I dropped a bunch of
- 22:08Speaker 2: spoilerish stuff for the series, and upon re listening, I
- 22:13Speaker 2: felt like that was not the right way to go.
- 22:15Speaker 2: It robs people of the joy of discovery. So we're
- 22:18Speaker 2: going to skip ahead to a later part of the
- 22:22Speaker 2: conversation that's less spoilery, and big props to Ariel for,
- 22:27Speaker 2: you know, avoiding spoilers in the first place.
- 22:29Speaker 1: And I will say, like the log line that they
- 22:33Speaker 1: came out before the first episode was world's been affected
- 22:36Speaker 1: by a virus that makes everybody feel a certain way
- 22:39Speaker 1: and only one person can save it.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, happy and optimistic.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Yeah. And so going in I was like, Okay, well
- 22:46Speaker 1: what do I think's going to happen? And as I watched,
- 22:49Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I think I know what's going to happen.
- 22:51Speaker 1: And then that wasn't what happened throughout it. But there
- 22:55Speaker 1: are so many, just like questions have from watching it.
- 23:02Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a big one is just the word
- 23:04Speaker 2: why Why? Yeah, but without spoiling anything, why is a
- 23:10Speaker 2: very big question that has not even been asked yet.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Yeah, So so like one of the one of the
- 23:22Speaker 1: theories as to why they discredit in the first episode.
- 23:25Speaker 2: But that could just be a lie.
- 23:28Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and we don't either, like we have some
- 23:30Speaker 1: of the how, they give you some of the how,
- 23:34Speaker 1: but they don't they don't. Yeah, but they don't give
- 23:36Speaker 1: you the why. And there are so many possibilities. And
- 23:40Speaker 1: then just also like and maybe we should just put
- 23:44Speaker 1: it like a very minor spoiler alert, because I do
- 23:47Speaker 1: feel like it's best to go into the show completely blind.
- 23:52Speaker 1: But I some of so just like some of the
- 23:56Speaker 1: logistics of how the affected work, because there are already
- 24:02Speaker 1: cracks showing by the end of the second episode. I
- 24:05Speaker 1: think that might be my personal perception. It's a really
- 24:09Speaker 1: good show. I recommend it there. It does have some
- 24:12Speaker 1: very very dark bits, like it started off darker than
- 24:16Speaker 1: I expected, but by Vince Gilligan, who did while he
- 24:19Speaker 1: did Handcock, he also did Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul.
- 24:24Speaker 1: But it also had good moments of levity in there,
- 24:26Speaker 1: so I don't feel like it was a slog to watch.
- 24:32Speaker 1: I don't remember where I was going with this.
- 24:35Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna say anymore because I've already been like,
- 24:39Speaker 2: like you said, I've already been treading close to if
- 24:41Speaker 2: not on and yeah or across the line for spoilers.
- 24:47Speaker 2: But I've got lots of thoughts, and so maybe some
- 24:49Speaker 2: point you and I can just chat, just chat, not
- 24:51Speaker 2: even for sure recording, to talk about our thoughts, because
- 24:55Speaker 2: I've got a lot of them. Yeah, highly recommended. It
- 24:59Speaker 2: is so are very entertaining. I know that some people
- 25:02Speaker 2: had some issues with some of the montage stuff because
- 25:06Speaker 2: it slows down the pacing, but that's really Vince Gilligan's
- 25:09Speaker 2: kind of millieu. He loves, he loves showing procedural tasks.
- 25:17Speaker 1: Yeah. I I had a couple of friends who had
- 25:20Speaker 1: some other critiques about the plotline. But I think it's
- 25:24Speaker 1: just really interesting because how everybody can view the same
- 25:29Speaker 1: media vastly differently, which is interesting considering the tone and
- 25:37Speaker 1: the theme of the show. Uh I I was watching
- 25:42Speaker 1: him like, is this commentary on social media a little
- 25:44Speaker 1: bit too at certain points? I'm sure it is, but
- 25:48Speaker 1: uh yeah, please watch it if you like sci fi.
- 25:53Speaker 1: And then also if you do watch it, call the numbers.
- 25:57Speaker 2: Yes, if you see if you see a phone num,
- 26:00Speaker 2: that's something you can call and you will you will
- 26:06Speaker 2: get a little chuckle. Yeah, a little like almost like
- 26:09Speaker 2: a little Easter egg. It's on Apple TV. If you're
- 26:13Speaker 2: not familiar, it's it's an Apple TV show. So I
- 26:16Speaker 2: think it's worth checking out Apple TV to watch this.
- 26:20Speaker 2: And there's a couple of other stuff things on Apple
- 26:22Speaker 2: TV that are worth watching.
- 26:24Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Severance Murder bought Ted Lasso. Yeah, we're going
- 26:29Speaker 1: to talk about a little bit later.
- 26:31Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's let's, I guess segue on over into
- 26:35Speaker 2: our famous segment of Hey, don't take too long to
- 26:39Speaker 2: talk about that, Okay, So I'll start Okay, After two seasons,
- 26:45Speaker 2: Peacock is pulling the plug on poker Face. That's the
- 26:49Speaker 2: series that sees Natasha Leone as Charlie Kel, a woman
- 26:52Speaker 2: who knows if someone is telling a lie. Show creator
- 26:55Speaker 2: Ryan Johnson is shopping the series around, but if it
- 26:59Speaker 2: does come back, it will not be with Leon as
- 27:01Speaker 2: the title character. Instead, and I swear I'm not making
- 27:04Speaker 2: this up. They're looking at Peter Dinklic So how is
- 27:08Speaker 2: that going to work? Well, it's a mystery, but Johnson
- 27:11Speaker 2: seems pretty comfortable with those.
- 27:14Speaker 1: Interesting Another interesting piece of news is that Disney is
- 27:19Speaker 1: pairing up with Hideo Kojima to do a Death Stranding
- 27:24Speaker 1: anime cartoon series. It's going to have I believe, some
- 27:31Speaker 1: of the game people, but also a lot of new characters,
- 27:33Speaker 1: maybe all new characters. I might have misread the article wrong.
- 27:38Speaker 1: They Disney approached Kojimo about it when they were working
- 27:41Speaker 1: on like another documentary sort of a thing feature, and
- 27:45Speaker 1: he seems very excited about it. I feel like just
- 27:47Speaker 1: straining is so weird. I can't even picture what the
- 27:50Speaker 1: anime would be like.
- 27:52Speaker 2: Colin Farrell will star in an adaptation of a comic
- 27:55Speaker 2: book but hasn't even come out yet. The Russo Brothers
- 27:59Speaker 2: will produce a film Ordained about a priest who has
- 28:02Speaker 2: a dark past and who gets pulled into mafia drama
- 28:05Speaker 2: after a mob boss confesses his crimes when he thinks
- 28:08Speaker 2: he's about to die, but then the mob boss survives.
- 28:12Speaker 2: Now the priest knows too much. That priest also punches,
- 28:16Speaker 2: and his Colin Ferrell, and I'm sure he's gonna minister
- 28:19Speaker 2: extreme function to the face.
- 28:23Speaker 1: He should have been like that priest also punches and
- 28:25Speaker 1: he's feral Colin.
- 28:27Speaker 2: It's true that that would have been better.
- 28:31Speaker 1: No, you did great. I'm sorry. I shouldn't put jokes
- 28:34Speaker 1: in your thirty seconds or less, Michael Gianni Chigio, I
- 28:40Speaker 1: should have looked up how to pronounce his name. Is
- 28:42Speaker 1: doing a second were Wolf by Night for Disney. Plus
- 28:48Speaker 1: that was a Halloween special that came out a couple
- 28:51Speaker 1: of years ago with man thing in it, which was
- 28:56Speaker 1: the best part of it. And I am excited about
- 29:01Speaker 1: this sequel. Like at the end of this tiny short
- 29:05Speaker 1: like movie that they made, I was like, I wouldn't
- 29:09Speaker 1: mind another. So now we're getting another, maybe by Halloween
- 29:12Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, maybe by twenty twenty seven.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's no mention on timing yet. Well back
- 29:18Speaker 2: on the matter of preachers kicking butt, Ryan Reynolds wants
- 29:21Speaker 2: to reboot a nineteen seventy four action comedy film titled
- 29:25Speaker 2: Thunderbolt and lightfunt So. In the original movie, Clint Eastwood
- 29:29Speaker 2: plays Thunderbolt, who is a bank robber, but he's disguised
- 29:32Speaker 2: himself as a preacher and he ends up teaming up
- 29:34Speaker 2: with a young thief named Lightfoot played by Jeff Bridges,
- 29:38Speaker 2: and then a chaotic series of misadventures ensues and ultimately
- 29:42Speaker 2: it ends tragically. Spoiler alert speculation has Reynolds and you
- 29:46Speaker 2: Jackman teaming up for the remake.
- 29:52Speaker 1: Speaking of team well, no, that's not a good segue.
- 29:55Speaker 1: We're going to go to the next thing, which is
- 29:56Speaker 1: that James Gunn has announced that dcu's Man Tomorrow, which
- 30:00Speaker 1: is the next Superman movie, is coming out on July nine,
- 30:03Speaker 1: twenty seven. That's pretty quick considering we just got the
- 30:07Speaker 1: first one this Yearlex Luthor's going to have his mecha
- 30:12Speaker 1: mecha suit, and also they're going to start filming in
- 30:16Speaker 1: Georgia in January. I did hear recently that this was
- 30:20Speaker 1: kind of a little bit up in the air because
- 30:22Speaker 1: Discovery might be selling again and they weren't sure of
- 30:26Speaker 1: the future of the DCU. But I'm hoping that this
- 30:28Speaker 1: news is positive and that we will in fact get
- 30:33Speaker 1: it because I want to audition for it.
- 30:37Speaker 2: Film Studio saidam Barrow and Argentic Productions will produce a
- 30:41Speaker 2: folk horror film titled Thaw. The plot of the movie
- 30:46Speaker 2: follows an American documentary filmmaker who travels to Siberia to
- 30:50Speaker 2: cover the thawing perma frost, but they also witness a
- 30:53Speaker 2: teenager going through a shamanic initiation and it's said to
- 30:57Speaker 2: be kind of like a demonic possession movie, but with
- 31:00Speaker 2: a totally different cultural approach, which really sounds fascinating to me.
- 31:05Speaker 2: So I hope this sees the light of day.
- 31:10Speaker 1: Something else that is finally going to see the light
- 31:12Speaker 1: of day is the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art. George
- 31:17Speaker 1: Lucas and his wife are founding a museum of the
- 31:23Speaker 1: people's art. It's opening. It's had a bunch of delays,
- 31:28Speaker 1: but it is actually opening in September twenty second of
- 31:31Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, so this of next year. I was like,
- 31:34Speaker 1: this year, No, it's only twenty twenty five, aerial, Oh
- 31:37Speaker 1: my goodness, what is time?
- 31:38Speaker 2: It's an illusion. Eli Roth's next project is a film
- 31:43Speaker 2: titled ice Cream Man, which apparently is not related to
- 31:46Speaker 2: the Clint Howard movie from the nineteen nineties. Roth says
- 31:49Speaker 2: it's his quote most terrifying and insane film to date
- 31:53Speaker 2: end quote, and considering his movies include Hostile, The Green Inferno,
- 31:58Speaker 2: and of course Borderline, that is a big claim. The
- 32:02Speaker 2: plot involves the people in a small town going bonkers
- 32:05Speaker 2: after eating goodies from a sinister ice cream man, which
- 32:08Speaker 2: sounds absolutely chilling.
- 32:14Speaker 1: Lastly, lastly, we are getting a Anne Rice movie that
- 32:20Speaker 1: is not vampires. We're getting a movie of Cry to Heaven,
- 32:24Speaker 1: which is about a musician who becomes a Christrati in
- 32:30Speaker 1: the eighteenth century of Italy to pursue fame. The interesting
- 32:36Speaker 1: news about it is that it is starring Adele.
- 32:40Speaker 2: Yeah about it. I think I think the poster for
- 32:42Speaker 2: this should be should have the subtitle.
- 32:45Speaker 1: Ah nuts, that's very funny.
- 32:50Speaker 2: Yeah. I an Rice is a weird person, That's all
- 32:55Speaker 2: I have to say about that. Her fascination with Castradi
- 32:59Speaker 2: is a little on the side.
- 33:00Speaker 1: But I've not read her books, so I don't know.
- 33:04Speaker 1: I don't know her fascination with that. All I all
- 33:08Speaker 1: I know is that SNL did a really funny skit.
- 33:12Speaker 2: Oh yeah with Ariana Grande.
- 33:14Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 33:15Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, moving on to stuff that doesn't quite fit
- 33:20Speaker 2: our lineup for whatever reason, We've got a few trailers
- 33:23Speaker 2: to talk about. First up is a trailer called MERV
- 33:28Speaker 2: M E r V.
- 33:30Speaker 1: Yeah. It stars che Charlie.
- 33:32Speaker 2: Cox, Charlie Cos Let's.
- 33:36Speaker 1: Go to Candy Mountain Charlie Cox, Come on, stars Charlie
- 33:42Speaker 1: Cox aka Daredevil and Zoe Deshanel Is that correct?
- 33:47Speaker 2: Yes? Yes?
- 33:49Speaker 1: Who was a new Girl?
- 33:51Speaker 2: Uh?
- 33:51Speaker 1: And Elf as a couple who breaks up and shares
- 33:54Speaker 1: custody of their dog, and their dog gets depression, and
- 33:58Speaker 1: so they go on an accidental group vacation, well half accidental, Yeah,
- 34:05Speaker 1: and the dog brings them back together.
- 34:08Speaker 2: Yeah. I wrote, the dog is unhappy with the change
- 34:12Speaker 2: in his life, and so, in an effort to make
- 34:14Speaker 2: the dog happy, Russ Charlie Cox's character takes the dog
- 34:19Speaker 2: on a beach trip and Anna Zoey Deschnal's character shows
- 34:23Speaker 2: up to keep an eye on things. And then I wrote,
- 34:25Speaker 2: will they fall back in love and get back together
- 34:28Speaker 2: or will they put down the dog? We'll find out
- 34:30Speaker 2: on December tenth on Prime Video.
- 34:33Speaker 1: They better not put down the dog.
- 34:35Speaker 2: They woe. If you look at the synopsis in like
- 34:38Speaker 2: the webpage for this thing, it is so sappy that
- 34:42Speaker 2: they are not They're not going to euthanize the dog.
- 34:45Speaker 1: Also, I say this as a person who has a
- 34:47Speaker 1: huge heart for animals. Talk about absurd concepts, because you
- 34:53Speaker 1: should never stay together for an animal. Now, if you
- 34:58Speaker 1: broke up for a reason, that animal shouldn't.
- 35:00Speaker 2: Be But maybe what happens is like the animal reminds
- 35:04Speaker 2: them of what they liked about each other. In the
- 35:07Speaker 2: first place, and that reminders what causes them to fall
- 35:09Speaker 2: back in love. I think it's sappy, which is why
- 35:12Speaker 2: I said put down the dog. I would never ever
- 35:16Speaker 2: actually advocate for that. I love dogs, I know. Next up,
- 35:22Speaker 2: we got a trailer, another trailer, a full trailer for
- 35:24Speaker 2: Marty Supreme. We've talked about this movie. I think we
- 35:27Speaker 2: got a teaser like months ago. But Marty Supreme is
- 35:31Speaker 2: a film with Timothy Challamey playing the title character who Marty,
- 35:37Speaker 2: who is has incredible self confidence, possibly to the point
- 35:42Speaker 2: of insanity.
- 35:44Speaker 1: Yeah, he is a ping pong player who's a table
- 35:49Speaker 1: tennis player, no, let's call it ping pong, who's trying
- 35:56Speaker 1: to get ahead in life, and I think goes into crime.
- 36:00Speaker 2: Well no, I think what it is is that he's
- 36:02Speaker 2: trying to become like a legitimate sports like figure, but
- 36:08Speaker 2: it's for a sport that no one really considers a sport,
- 36:12Speaker 2: right And Uh, the crime part I don't think is
- 36:15Speaker 2: really crime. It's more like he's he's like a pool hustler,
- 36:18Speaker 2: except he's a ping pong hustler, where he's he's hustling
- 36:22Speaker 2: people into betting against him, and then he turns on
- 36:24Speaker 2: his abilities. Uh, and that's just figuratively speaking, he shows
- 36:30Speaker 2: that he's actually really really good.
- 36:32Speaker 1: It's sort of he's not a robot. He can't just
- 36:35Speaker 1: flip the ping pong switch.
- 36:36Speaker 2: I mean, not as far as I know, but who knows.
- 36:41Speaker 2: We go back to the Castrati, the no, the the
- 36:46Speaker 2: Ariel gave me such a look, the uh no the
- 36:50Speaker 2: But it's like it's like white men can't jump, or
- 36:53Speaker 2: you know, uh, what was it? What was the color
- 36:56Speaker 2: of money? You know movie? No movies where someone is
- 37:00Speaker 2: fooling opponents into betting against them and then showing that
- 37:05Speaker 2: they're actually quite good. It's like that scene in ted Lasso.
- 37:09Speaker 2: But no, it looks dumb to me, Like I'm getting
- 37:15Speaker 2: the feeling that it's one of those movies where it's
- 37:16Speaker 2: like this, this character has such a strong belief in
- 37:20Speaker 2: himself and so much confidence he's manifesting his future. And
- 37:26Speaker 2: to me, that's a really naive kind of message. And
- 37:31Speaker 2: maybe that's not what the movie is saying at all.
- 37:33Speaker 2: Maybe that's not how it turns out. It's just the
- 37:35Speaker 2: way the trailer strikes me. I would much prefer to
- 37:38Speaker 2: see a trailer where this guy has this incredible belief
- 37:41Speaker 2: in himself. And confidence in himself and then doesn't achieve
- 37:45Speaker 2: what he believes he's going to achieve because I don't
- 37:49Speaker 2: like reinforcing delusions of grandeur.
- 37:54Speaker 1: I mean, I can see that. I honestly, when I
- 37:57Speaker 1: watch this show, I'm like, didn't we already have a
- 37:59Speaker 1: movie about this person? But I also thought it was
- 38:00Speaker 1: a real person? But it's not.
- 38:02Speaker 2: No, it may have been inspired by a ping punk champion,
- 38:06Speaker 2: but it's not about a specific person. It comes out
- 38:08Speaker 2: Christmas Day. Also, two and a half hours long aerial.
- 38:13Speaker 1: Why would anybody see this on Christmas?
- 38:16Speaker 2: For two and a half hours two and a half
- 38:18Speaker 2: hours of watching a guy who refuses to acknowledge that
- 38:23Speaker 2: his dreams are far fetched.
- 38:27Speaker 1: I mean, but here's the thing. There are a lot
- 38:30Speaker 1: of people who do achieve success because despite everybody telling
- 38:36Speaker 1: them no, because they have the tenacity, right, that does happen,
- 38:40Speaker 1: But it doesn't happen for everybody.
- 38:42Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, I mean it just comes across. He comes
- 38:44Speaker 2: across to me in the trailer like a psychopath. And
- 38:47Speaker 2: maybe that's what it's supposed to be.
- 38:49Speaker 1: He comes across yeah, a little bit, at least a
- 38:54Speaker 1: little bit narcissistic.
- 38:55Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, anyway, maybe we're just totally off bait with
- 39:00Speaker 2: our assumptions. But yeah, oh, by the way, it's a
- 39:03Speaker 2: period peace film because it's set in the nineteen fifties.
- 39:06Speaker 1: Next, I thought you're gonna say nineteen nineties, and I
- 39:08Speaker 1: was going to have to punch you through the computer.
- 39:11Speaker 2: I heard. I heard a Nirvana song played on a
- 39:14Speaker 2: classic rock radio station last weekend.
- 39:17Speaker 1: So you are on social media, but I saw a
- 39:20Speaker 1: gen z or try on some historically accurate hip huggers
- 39:25Speaker 1: from the two thousands. I'm like, that's not far enough away.
- 39:29Speaker 1: You said historically accurate from the eighties. I would forgive you,
- 39:33Speaker 1: but twenty years feels.
- 39:34Speaker 2: Two too close. Yeah. Well, next up, we got a
- 39:38Speaker 2: trailer for season two of a series called The Night Manager.
- 39:43Speaker 2: This is kind of phenomenal because series one came out
- 39:46Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen.
- 39:49Speaker 1: No wonder I didn't know about it.
- 39:51Speaker 2: Yeah, almost a decade ago. It stars Tom Hittleston and
- 39:56Speaker 2: Olivia Coleman, but the first season also had Hugh Laurie
- 40:00Speaker 2: It as an antagonist, and the general premise is that
- 40:04Speaker 2: Tom Hidlston's case. This is, by the way, is based
- 40:06Speaker 2: off a novel from like the early nineties James Bond. No, no, no,
- 40:11Speaker 2: not James Bond. No, it's it's a book from nineteen
- 40:15Speaker 2: ninety three, and the James Bond books were written way
- 40:17Speaker 2: before that. Anyway. Hillston plays a retired soldier who is
- 40:25Speaker 2: now the night manager for a luxury hotel and he
- 40:31Speaker 2: kind of gets pulled into working with an intelligence agency
- 40:36Speaker 2: in English intelligence agency in order to stop like super
- 40:41Speaker 2: state level criminal activities. Like the first season it was
- 40:45Speaker 2: arms dealers, and I think in the second season it's
- 40:48Speaker 2: drug the drug trade in Colombia. And it looks super slick,
- 40:55Speaker 2: like the trailer looks very spy ish movie kind of. Yeah,
- 41:00Speaker 2: it's a series, but it looks like a spy movie.
- 41:02Speaker 1: It has a really good cast. Maybe I did know
- 41:05Speaker 1: about this and I completely forgot, but yeah.
- 41:08Speaker 2: Well it comes out January eleventh on Amazon Prime. So yeah,
- 41:14Speaker 2: but it looks it looks good. It makes me curious.
- 41:16Speaker 2: I might go and watch the first season because I
- 41:19Speaker 2: was unaware of this, or if I was aware of it,
- 41:21Speaker 2: I had forgotten.
- 41:22Speaker 1: Yeah I might as well. I do like a lot
- 41:24Speaker 1: of Tom Hittles and stuff, unlike the next thing. The
- 41:27Speaker 1: only reason that I have any vague interest or even
- 41:30Speaker 1: knowledge about it outside of Jonathan putting it in our
- 41:33Speaker 1: lineup is because I've heard the maclroys talk about it.
- 41:35Speaker 1: So previously, there was a movie with mister Bean Rowan
- 41:41Speaker 1: Atkinson where he fought a bee. That was the entire movie.
- 41:46Speaker 2: Man Versus b It was a series.
- 41:49Speaker 1: It was a series. A series, Oh, I thought it
- 41:52Speaker 1: was a movie. See this shows how little I know.
- 41:55Speaker 2: It could have.
- 41:55Speaker 1: I thought it was so foolish.
- 41:57Speaker 2: I think it was like four episodes and each one
- 41:59Speaker 2: was like thirty minutes. So you add that up, it's
- 42:01Speaker 2: two hours. It's essentially a movie.
- 42:03Speaker 1: Well, now we get a sequel, Man Versus Baby.
- 42:07Speaker 2: Yeh, Yeah, he's leveled up and now his final boss
- 42:11Speaker 2: is tougher.
- 42:13Speaker 1: Yeah, it's The opening scene shows a baby flying across
- 42:16Speaker 1: a room of its own volition at him, except for
- 42:20Speaker 1: it's not an antagonistic relationship.
- 42:22Speaker 2: It seems like, well, the premise is that that he
- 42:28Speaker 2: is now working in a school, and the school had
- 42:31Speaker 2: a Nativity play and they had a real baby to
- 42:35Speaker 2: play the baby Jesus. But then the play's over and
- 42:38Speaker 2: nobody comes to pick up the baby. So there's an
- 42:42Speaker 2: abandoned baby and he ends up for reasons I don't
- 42:46Speaker 2: understand taking care of it instead of like turning the
- 42:50Speaker 2: baby over to like child services or something. Yeah. Yeah,
- 42:54Speaker 2: but yeah, and then he ends up landing a gig
- 42:57Speaker 2: of looking after a very expensive of house, which is
- 43:01Speaker 2: the same general plot as the first series, except in
- 43:05Speaker 2: that one, of course, it was a bee that was
- 43:08Speaker 2: aggravating him, and now he's got like a rogue baby
- 43:11Speaker 2: on the loose.
- 43:13Speaker 1: Yeah, except except for it doesn't feel like it doesn't
- 43:15Speaker 1: feel like Man versus Baby from the trailer. It feels
- 43:18Speaker 1: like one man and a baby, the sad sequel to
- 43:22Speaker 1: Three Men and a Baby.
- 43:23Speaker 2: Although it does look like at one point it might
- 43:25Speaker 2: be one man and two babies.
- 43:28Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And next the next movie is going to
- 43:30Speaker 1: be Man Versus Wife and it's just Roan Atkinson getting married.
- 43:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrote down, Okay, So first of all, it
- 43:36Speaker 2: comes out December eleventh on Netflix. If you're really for
- 43:39Speaker 2: some Reasonmber fifth, No, December eleventh.
- 43:42Speaker 1: That was last night.
- 43:43Speaker 2: Last week was the fifth uh, and I wrote if
- 43:46Speaker 2: you want to hear people really be confused about this premise,
- 43:49Speaker 2: I recommend checking out the My Brother, My Brother and
- 43:51Speaker 2: Me episode Man Versus Kramer versus Wild versus Predator. That's
- 43:56Speaker 2: the title and like, you only have to listen to
- 43:58Speaker 2: the beginning. But that's the Mackelroy's going on about man
- 44:02Speaker 2: versus Baby, and not all of them are convinced that
- 44:04Speaker 2: it's a real thing at first.
- 44:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't remember the names of the episode,
- 44:10Speaker 1: the title of the episodes where they talk about man
- 44:12Speaker 1: versus B. But it is some of the funniest podcasting
- 44:15Speaker 1: I've listened to in a while.
- 44:16Speaker 2: I want to say that that took up half the
- 44:18Speaker 2: episode two like it was four. Yeah. Now, there have
- 44:22Speaker 2: been other my Brother, My Brother and the episodes where
- 44:24Speaker 2: they dedicated an entire episode to discussing a ridiculous movie.
- 44:28Speaker 2: But I think Man Versus B only got half an episode.
- 44:31Speaker 1: Yeah, but I cried. I laughed so hard, unlike crying
- 44:36Speaker 1: for sadness, which is what you might do if you
- 44:38Speaker 1: watched the new Wuthering Heights.
- 44:41Speaker 2: Uh what did so? We got a trailer for wathering Heights.
- 44:45Speaker 2: This movie comes out apparently Valentine's Day.
- 44:49Speaker 1: I was joy.
- 44:51Speaker 2: It says it in the trailer like it has like
- 44:53Speaker 2: in big letters across the entire screen. I'm curious what
- 44:57Speaker 2: you thought of this trailer because I have some thoughts.
- 45:00Speaker 2: But I don't want to. I don't want to influence you.
- 45:03Speaker 1: So, first of all, I've never read Wathering Heights. Okay,
- 45:07Speaker 1: I've never watched I think there was an old Weathering
- 45:10Speaker 1: Heights movie and.
- 45:11Speaker 2: Maybe you've heard the Kate Bush song Weathering Heights.
- 45:14Speaker 1: I've heard the Kate Bush song because you have sung
- 45:16Speaker 1: it at karaoke many a time, and I've seen people
- 45:20Speaker 1: dance to it, and it's got a ridiculously amazing music video,
- 45:24Speaker 1: and it is a shame that they did not use
- 45:26Speaker 1: that song in either of the trailers. Agreed, But I
- 45:33Speaker 1: had to look up the premise of the of the
- 45:36Speaker 1: story because it's a little confusing from the trailer. Well, yeah,
- 45:39Speaker 1: as to what happened.
- 45:40Speaker 2: The trailer seems to only focus on Volume one of
- 45:44Speaker 2: Weathering Heights. Okay, Wathering Heights ultimately is really a story
- 45:50Speaker 2: kind of about class warfare, classicism and revenge, like that's
- 45:54Speaker 2: really what Weathering Heights is about. But the trailer focuses
- 45:59Speaker 2: almost exclusively on the first part of the story, in
- 46:05Speaker 2: which Heathcliff, who is a foundling essentially who is being
- 46:10Speaker 2: raised by an upper class English family like Landed family Falls,
- 46:22Speaker 2: becomes enamored of a noble young lady named Catherine, and
- 46:28Speaker 2: she also becomes enamored of him, but the social distance
- 46:34Speaker 2: between the two is such that Catherine is reluctant to
- 46:38Speaker 2: pursue any kind of actual romance with him, and then
- 46:44Speaker 2: ultimately she ends up agreeing to marry someone else. This
- 46:47Speaker 2: Heathcliff takes this as a personal betrayal and leaves, only
- 46:52Speaker 2: to return years later mysteriously wealthy and seeking revenge and
- 46:57Speaker 2: seeking revenge. And but Catherine herself doesn't live that long,
- 47:03Speaker 2: like she's like if you heard listen to the song
- 47:06Speaker 2: Wuthering Heights by Kate Bush. That song is sung from
- 47:10Speaker 2: the perspective of Catherine's ghost.
- 47:13Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, she dies and Heathcliffe goes insane because he's
- 47:16Speaker 1: seeing Catherine's ghost. I know that much.
- 47:19Speaker 2: Yeah, he feels he feels responsible for her death, which
- 47:23Speaker 2: is fair because he partly is. Here's this This story,
- 47:30Speaker 2: by modern standards, is truly bonkers. Like by the time
- 47:34Speaker 2: you get to the end of it, Heathcliffe has had
- 47:37Speaker 2: a son. He gets married to the sister to the
- 47:42Speaker 2: man that Catherine got married to. Interesting, So Catherine marries
- 47:47Speaker 2: Edgar and Heathcliff marries I think Isabella if I'm not mistaken.
- 47:52Speaker 2: It's been a long time Edgar's sister. It's been a
- 47:55Speaker 2: lot of time since I've read Wuthering Heights. But anyway, Uh,
- 47:58Speaker 2: Heathcliffe has a son. Edgar and Catherine have a daughter, Kathy.
- 48:06Speaker 2: So Kathy and and Heathcliff's son are cousins. But they
- 48:13Speaker 2: do get married.
- 48:15Speaker 1: I mean, that's not that uncommon.
- 48:17Speaker 2: Well then Heathcliff today. Then Heathcliffe's son dies and she
- 48:22Speaker 2: gets married to her other cousin, like her cousin on
- 48:28Speaker 2: the other side of the family. So she gets married
- 48:30Speaker 2: to two different cousins. Kathy the younger.
- 48:34Speaker 1: Is does it take place at a time period where
- 48:37Speaker 1: marrying your cousin was common practice for new bullies?
- 48:40Speaker 2: I mean like late seventeen hundreds, early eighteen hundreds, Yeah,
- 48:44Speaker 2: you're the historian.
- 48:45Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 48:45Speaker 2: But even so, like like she's running through that family
- 48:50Speaker 2: tree like a lumberjack. It is crazy.
- 48:54Speaker 1: Yeah. So the trailer looked pretty schmexy, because I understand
- 48:57Speaker 1: the book it can be pretty schmexy.
- 48:59Speaker 2: Not really, I don't know. No, that's the thing is
- 49:03Speaker 2: that this seems to be putting in way more Gothic
- 49:06Speaker 2: romance into the story than what is in the actual novel.
- 49:11Speaker 2: Like there's so much more abuse in the novel than romance.
- 49:15Speaker 1: There's also some weird like Copola level imagery in the.
- 49:20Speaker 2: Trailer, which we'll get we'll talk about Copola level imagery again.
- 49:23Speaker 1: Before the Yeah, but like the bits were both. I
- 49:27Speaker 1: don't know if it's Edgar or if it's Heathcliff. But
- 49:29Speaker 1: there's like one bit where like there's a door with
- 49:32Speaker 1: human flesh in it, and then like maybe I missaw
- 49:35Speaker 1: the trailer.
- 49:37Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you're looking at a different movie. I don't know.
- 49:40Speaker 2: I don't remember. I don't remember the flesh door.
- 49:43Speaker 1: There was a door and a guy licked it.
- 49:45Speaker 2: Oh, no, you're right. Was it a door, was it
- 49:48Speaker 2: a wall? Either way, it was weird. It was weird.
- 49:51Speaker 2: He's licking wood wood paneling is but it looks like.
- 49:55Speaker 1: A back to me. This is a trailer that I
- 49:58Speaker 1: was watching on my phone today. So so that's that's
- 50:00Speaker 1: what could have been the problem. But both he and
- 50:02Speaker 1: Catherine did it at one point in the trailer.
- 50:05Speaker 2: I wrote that that there is it's a lot more
- 50:11Speaker 2: romanticized and eroticized than I anticipated based upon the novel.
- 50:17Speaker 2: It's not like I don't want to be ludicrous and say, like,
- 50:22Speaker 2: it's like if you saw an adaptation of Moby Dick,
- 50:24Speaker 2: but they put sex in it, It's not that ridiculous.
- 50:30Speaker 1: But that's a title to pick to pair up with
- 50:32Speaker 1: that sentence.
- 50:33Speaker 2: I was just trying to pick something that clearly should
- 50:35Speaker 2: not have sex in it. I mean, I mean, you could, yeah,
- 50:41Speaker 2: but I should it should No. I don't know. Maybe
- 50:47Speaker 2: it has been a very long time since I've read
- 50:49Speaker 2: Wuthering Heights, and perhaps I'm just forgetting like the real
- 50:53Speaker 2: romance element of it. To me, like the so much
- 51:00Speaker 2: of that story is based on the concepts of betrayal
- 51:05Speaker 2: and jealousy and vengeance and cruelty and abuse. That to
- 51:11Speaker 2: see a trailer that seems to focus way more on
- 51:15Speaker 2: the modest, ripping romance element just strikes me as not
- 51:19Speaker 2: being Wuthering Heights. But again, it's a trailer. It may
- 51:25Speaker 2: not be representative of the entire film. And it's very
- 51:29Speaker 2: possible that my memory is just not good enough, Like
- 51:32Speaker 2: maybe that stuff was in the book and I just forgot.
- 51:36Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to tell you. But that is
- 51:39Speaker 1: it for things that do not fit.
- 51:41Speaker 2: So I suppose that means it is now time to
- 51:44Speaker 2: enter John boys are Hutch.
- 51:54Speaker 1: Sorry.
- 51:55Speaker 2: That was pretty impressive. I liked it. As always, I'll
- 52:00Speaker 2: begin by asking my beloved co host, did you watch
- 52:04Speaker 2: any of these?
- 52:06Speaker 1: I wanted to, but I ran out of time.
- 52:07Speaker 2: Fair enough, I think you could have watched you certainly, well,
- 52:12Speaker 2: you watched the teaser for one of these already, and
- 52:16Speaker 2: I think you could have watched all three and it
- 52:18Speaker 2: would have been fine. None of these I think would
- 52:20Speaker 2: have really tripped you up. The first one is Influencers,
- 52:25Speaker 2: which is a sequel to a twenty twenty two movie
- 52:28Speaker 2: called Influencer, so one letter off. Influencer was about a
- 52:36Speaker 2: character played by Cassandra Naud who proves to be a
- 52:40Speaker 2: total psychopath who befriends and then begins to kill like
- 52:48Speaker 2: influencers in an effort to just live off their lavish lifestyle.
- 52:54Speaker 2: Like she's a social parasite and a psychopath, and she
- 52:59Speaker 2: has no, like, no reservations in killing somebody in order
- 53:06Speaker 2: to be able to live this incredibly lavish lifestyle. And
- 53:10Speaker 2: at the end of the first movie, as I understand it,
- 53:13Speaker 2: having not watched it, by the way, but as I
- 53:16Speaker 2: understand it, she's left stranded on an Island. It's an
- 53:19Speaker 2: island where she had taken someone in order to kill
- 53:22Speaker 2: them there and they end up being able to escape
- 53:25Speaker 2: and leave her stranded on that island. But in the sequel,
- 53:29Speaker 2: she's found her way back and she's now preying upon
- 53:33Speaker 2: other influencers. Like she just has this very charismatic approach
- 53:38Speaker 2: and befriends people quickly, gets into their circle of trust,
- 53:43Speaker 2: and then abuses that like crazy in order to again
- 53:46Speaker 2: live this sort of lavish lifestyle. And there's lots of
- 53:52Speaker 2: like intrigue and stuff going on. This one comes out
- 53:55Speaker 2: in July twenty sixth I still need to see the
- 54:00Speaker 2: First Influencer, even though I know what happens in it,
- 54:04Speaker 2: I still need to see it just to see, like,
- 54:06Speaker 2: is it well made? Is it entertaining? Because this looks
- 54:11Speaker 2: good from a thriller perspective. It might be one of
- 54:16Speaker 2: those movies I watch and I just think, Wow, I'm
- 54:18Speaker 2: an old man and I don't identify with any of
- 54:20Speaker 2: these characters, but that's okay.
- 54:23Speaker 1: I just want to know what CW stands.
- 54:24Speaker 2: For CW that's the character name. Yeah, I don't know.
- 54:30Speaker 2: Next up, we have a trailer for a horror comedy film,
- 54:37Speaker 2: An animal attack horror comedy film called Drop Bear.
- 54:41Speaker 1: Are you sure I could have watched this one?
- 54:43Speaker 2: You could have? The first of all, the animals are
- 54:46Speaker 2: all very much clearly cg like, they don't look real,
- 54:51Speaker 2: and one of them looks very not real, but that's
- 54:53Speaker 2: on purpose. So this plays on the legendary drop bear,
- 54:59Speaker 2: which is an Australian joke. Essentially Australians would tell it
- 55:04Speaker 2: to kids to scare them or to tourists to trick them.
- 55:08Speaker 2: But it was this whole thing about this koala like
- 55:11Speaker 2: bear that lives in trees and drops down on people
- 55:15Speaker 2: and attacks them and kills them and eats them and
- 55:18Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. And in the trailer, that's what's
- 55:21Speaker 2: going on is there's this kind of low rent Australian
- 55:26Speaker 2: tour guide telling the story to some American tourists about
- 55:30Speaker 2: drop bears. But then it turns out that there are
- 55:32Speaker 2: some crazy chlamydia infected koalas, which that's a real thing.
- 55:38Speaker 2: It's a real thing Koalas can carry chlamydia who are
- 55:43Speaker 2: attacking people. There's also someone who's in a large koala
- 55:48Speaker 2: like costume, like a mascot or furry type costume. And
- 55:54Speaker 2: at first I was thinking this was supposed to actually
- 55:56Speaker 2: represent the drop bear in question. But on further reflection,
- 56:01Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, no, of course this is one of
- 56:03Speaker 2: the tour guides dressing up in a costume and an
- 56:07Speaker 2: effort to scare the tourists. Meanwhile, the real threat is
- 56:10Speaker 2: still in the trees above. This one's just listed as
- 56:14Speaker 2: coming soon. But yeah, you could have watched this and
- 56:17Speaker 2: you would have been okay, I think, because they don't
- 56:20Speaker 2: look like real koalas. Okay. The one that you probably
- 56:25Speaker 2: could not have watched, actually, now that I think about it,
- 56:27Speaker 2: because there is animal stuff in this one and there
- 56:30Speaker 2: wasn't in the teaser is the trailer for cold Storage.
- 56:33Speaker 2: We did mention this one earlier when we got a
- 56:36Speaker 2: teaser a few months ago, the stork. Yeah, but there's
- 56:41Speaker 2: a lot of animal stuff in this one, so I
- 56:44Speaker 2: recommend you don't watch it because there are animals that
- 56:48Speaker 2: are kind of taken over by the fungus. This is
- 56:52Speaker 2: it's essentially the same kind of concept as the Last
- 56:55Speaker 2: of Us, Right, there's this Yeah, that's say corps exactly,
- 56:58Speaker 2: and it takes over brain and then controls the organic
- 57:03Speaker 2: creature that it's taken over.
- 57:05Speaker 1: I had a little bit had issues. There were some
- 57:08Speaker 1: animals in the first episode of Pluribus, and I had
- 57:10Speaker 1: some trouble with that too.
- 57:11Speaker 2: Yeah, well this one has animals like a deer and
- 57:15Speaker 2: a cat that I've been taken over by the fungus.
- 57:20Speaker 2: So it's kind of upsetting. But it is a horror comedy.
- 57:24Speaker 2: It involves more emphasis on the horror, I think, but
- 57:27Speaker 2: there's comedic elements, like it's got a comedic kind of
- 57:29Speaker 2: tone to it. But it's about a couple of staff
- 57:36Speaker 2: at a storage facility. The storage facility has a branch
- 57:40Speaker 2: of it that includes like an old military storage area,
- 57:45Speaker 2: like a refrigerated military storage area that they open for
- 57:49Speaker 2: some reason. They might even have it in the trailer,
- 57:52Speaker 2: but I forget now. But that has the fungus in it.
- 57:55Speaker 2: The fungus gets out. Liam Neeson gets called in because
- 57:58Speaker 2: apparently he was part of the team that originally identified
- 58:01Speaker 2: and put the fungus into storage, and it turns into
- 58:07Speaker 2: kind of horror action shlock, not in a bad way.
- 58:12Speaker 2: The screenplay was written by David Kepp, who has a
- 58:16Speaker 2: heck of a record both good and bad, because he
- 58:19Speaker 2: wrote Jurassic Park. The screenplay for Jurassic Park Obviously, Michael
- 58:23Speaker 2: Crichton wrote the book, but he wrote the screenplay. He
- 58:26Speaker 2: wrote the screenplay for Mission Impossible for Death Becomes Her,
- 58:31Speaker 2: but he also wrote the screenplays for movies like Indiana,
- 58:34Speaker 2: Jones and The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull or Jurassic
- 58:37Speaker 2: Park The Lost World.
- 58:39Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say Shark Nato.
- 58:41Speaker 2: No, No, not Asylum. The Asylum could not afford David Kep. Anyway,
- 58:48Speaker 2: I think it's a mixed bag. So I don't really
- 58:51Speaker 2: know where this one comes down and as far as
- 58:54Speaker 2: screenplays go, but it comes out February thirteenth. It also
- 58:58Speaker 2: is very gory, so is not your thing, then it's
- 59:02Speaker 2: probably not for you. But if you like gory zombie
- 59:05Speaker 2: type stuff, especially gory zombie type stuff that has a
- 59:08Speaker 2: little bit of of a humor to it. Nothing nothing
- 59:13Speaker 2: on the level like Shat of the Debt or anything
- 59:15Speaker 2: like that, but you know, has a little humor undertone,
- 59:18Speaker 2: then check out the trailer.
- 59:21Speaker 1: Yeah. Also interesting for Leameson to be in a full
- 59:24Speaker 1: on horror movie. I don't know why, Yeah, I think it.
- 59:30Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I can't think of another horror movie. Well, no,
- 59:33Speaker 2: he was in it was another Uh it wasn't really
- 59:36Speaker 2: a horror movie, but it was a thriller. He was
- 59:38Speaker 2: in what was it called The Gray Oh yeah, where
- 59:41Speaker 2: he was being stalked by wolves.
- 59:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 59:45Speaker 2: Uh that, by the way, that's an intense movie. I
- 59:48Speaker 2: did watch it years ago. I barely remember it except thinking, wow,
- 59:51Speaker 2: this is intense.
- 59:53Speaker 1: That's interesting to know. Because I heard the concept.
- 59:56Speaker 2: I was like, it's not for you though, No, no,
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: not a movie where wolves are stalking a person, because
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: you know.
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: The white thing is not even for me.
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: So yeah, well, now we move on to things that
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: are actually part of our show for realsies, and once
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: again we're pasting the hour mark. But we start off
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: with a teaser for Toy Story five.
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: Yeah. We had talked about this a little bit when
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: we first news were dropped about what it would be
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: about in a previous episode, but now we have the
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: trailer for it. It is all of the toys from
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: Toy Story, the main characters being scared of the new
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: essentially leap frog iPad that the kid gets.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: Yeah, the idea being that the kid gets this tablet.
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: Now they're not. Now, she's not gonna Bonnie being the kid,
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: She's not gonna be interested in playing with the toys anymore. Uh.
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: The thing that's got most Disney fans chatting is that
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: the of this teaser, it shows the various toys gasping
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: in terror as they look at this tablet. The last
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: pair to gasp are Buzz, Lightyear and Woody. And if
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: you've seen Toy Story four, then you know why a
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: lot of Disney slash Pixar fans are wondering what the
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: heck happened.
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: I don't think I did. I think the last Toy
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: Story I saw was three, so it did not register
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: to me that anything was wrong.
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: Well, let me just put to you this way. It's
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: a surprise that Woody is there. Ah, it's honestly, it's
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: not a surprise because you're like, you can't do a
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: Toy Story movie without Woody. But it does mean they're
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: gonna have to explain how Woody is there, and they will,
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: like they've already.
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: Addressed in four something He didn't get.
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: Incinerated, but he he decides to be a lost toy.
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: He it's the equipal of running off to join the circus,
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: except he runs off to join bo Peep.
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: I mean, I don't blame him. He's been through a lot,
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: but also my theory, like my initial I bet this
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: is what's going to happen, is that he hears about
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: this it's called lily Pad in the teaser instead of
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: leap Frog, and he has to go back to warn
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: his friends about it because he's seen the destruction it
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: has waked on other kids in their critical thinking.
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: Apparently this one's going to have Jesse being the character
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: who pulls everybody else back in. Okay, so she becomes
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: kind of the heart of this film from what I
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: have heard, But that's just what I've heard. Obviously, I
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: don't have anyone on the inside in Pixars, so I
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: cannot confirm. But anyway, next up, very similar to Toy
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: Story five, like you know, oh yeah.
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: Exactly the same almost. I don't know why they're both
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: coming out.
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: Yeah, you could get a double feature. It's we got
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: a full trailer when we talked about this too, because
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: we even had a full episode named after this. But
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: it's it's Dracula a love tail, and I think I
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: think we called it in our past episode Luke Bassan's
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: Francis Ford Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula.
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: Yes, uh, And they have not changed my mind.
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: Same, So Luke Bassan, who I'll have more to say
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: about in a second. And it's not good, So prepare yourselves. Yeah, yeah, no,
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: it's not good. Prepare yourselves for that. He uh. Like
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: the first time we saw a teaser, the feeling that
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: I had and Ariel had too, is that a lot
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: of the visuals, a lot of the style, the costuming,
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: the hairstyles, like, we're extremely evocative of Francis Ford Coppola's
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two version of Dracula, and it kind of
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: felt like Luke Bassan had never read the book but
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: had only seen the Coppola movie. Yeah, a lot of
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: that still carries over because he includes the the preamble
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: about Dracula's origins, which is not in the novel at all,
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: but it is in Francis Ford Coppola's movie.
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: So that kind of in a couple of Dracula movies
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: but it's.
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: Not in the book. Like, yeah, him having him cursing
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: God for his wife, his wife's death and then being
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: cursed in return with vampirism, that was that was in
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: Coppola's version, but not in the book.
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: I just think it was also in the Luke what's
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: his last name, he was guest Luke Evan's one.
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: That would have also have been after the fred this
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: sport Copolay yeh ye yeah yeah, like Coppolas was ninety two.
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: So and there are a lot of there's a lot
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: of imagery in this trailer that is like again, like
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: the costumes almost look like a copy of Coppola's. However,
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: from what I understand, there is much more of a
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: romance element thrown into this as well as like elements
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: of perfume a murder story, because apparently Dracula has this
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: magical perfume that draws women to him. In this version
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: of the story, it's got to cover up his scent somehow.
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: The reason why I find this distasteful, besides the fact
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: that it looks like it's copying another artist's work, is
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: this is telling essentially, seems to be asking the story,
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: isn't Dracula deserving of love to And Dracula, of course,
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: is a predatory, predatory creature that didn't other people their agency,
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: and Luke Bassan has come under multiple allegations of inappropriate
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: behavior to put it lightly, so, I.
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: Know that that's really unfortunate to hear.
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: Yeah, so a director who has this particular reputation, and
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: I should say nothing was ever held up in court.
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: But there are a lot of questions then doing a
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: movie about doesn't this guy deserve love? I mean, he's
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: just using his powers to dominate women? How is that bad?
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: Like?
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: Does it's not a good look? As the kids might.
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: Say, Yeah, and you know maybe the guy who Dracula
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: was before he became Dracula did, but he ruined that.
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and this is it comes out February sixth.
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: I will not be seeing it because I have I
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: have deep concerns, both from an artistic and from just
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: an ethicalive, which is sad because I wouldn't mind seeing
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: christof Waltz playing what amounts to Van Helsing. He's not
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: Van Helsing in this story, but he's essentially Van Helsing.
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: I mean, it's got a good cast.
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: I just.
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not interested in watching it either. I do
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: think I am interested in watching Good Luck, Have Fun,
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: Don't Die though.
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: Yeah the trailer it reminded me a little bit of
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: everything everywhere all at once, like a little bit. Yeah,
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: I had a lot of kind of wacky, crazy stuff
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: going on. We talked about this in a previous episode two.
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: But this is the movie in which Sam Rockwell plays
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: either somewhere from the future, sent back to the past
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: in an effort to avoid an apocalypse created by artificial intelligence,
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: or he's a crazy person, but he's tasked with going
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: to this one diner and put together a team in
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: order to head off the AI apocalypse. And I want
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: to say, at least in one thing, I read that
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: he's done this several times, like he keeps having to
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: try and make a team of different people to see
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: if it works, and what we see in the movie
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: is his latest and perhaps final attention.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: It also gives me whiffs of Future Man, which I
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: don't think you've watched yet. I have none, but I
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: think you would enjoy it. It's hard to find. It's
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: not really streaming. Many places you can buy episodes, but
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: you know you don't necessarily want to do that for
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: something you don't know if you're gonna Like, I am
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: glad to know because I had to look this up
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: because there is obviously depictions of AI into this movie,
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: and I was like, did they use AI to create
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: these depictions? They did not.
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: That's great, reportedly, didn't I know. It was directed by
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: Gore Verbinski, who's also the guy who did the parts
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: of the kid be in Curse of the Black Pearl.
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: It's too bad they never went and made any other
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: parts of the Caribbean movies. Because I really liked that.
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: Made like a second one, and the second one was okay, I.
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: Don't think so. I think you might be wrong about that. No, no, no, no, no, no,
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: not listening.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: He also made The Ring and you liked that.
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: I did like the Ring. Yeah.
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: Then he also made The Lone Ranger.
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: That was a big miss.
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a huge miss. But he also made
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, which I have not seen.
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: That was that was if it's the one with Matt
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: Dan what did it have that?
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: Damn it? I don't think so. I'm mixing up. I'm
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: mixing that up with the Teller. I was mixing up
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: with the talented mister Ripley.
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: H Yeah, it's the one with Ben Stiller. It was delightful.
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: I've never read The Secret Life of Walter Mitty or
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: the Secret Life of Walter Kitty, which is the children's
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: book version. Apparently according to my husband that he swears
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: he only knows about it because of that kid's book.
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: But it was a cute movie.
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: Yeah, not the talented mister Ripley, which is a great movie,
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: but about someone who poses to be as someone else.
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: Another psychopath movie. Serah no, Serra no, okay, all right,
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: fair enough, Siera No. Definitely has some narcissistic issues. This movie,
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: by the way, comes out February thirteenth, So if you
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: don't want to see Wuthering Heights, you can go see
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die.
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: I think that'll be my option.
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: I hope this will be yet another film in which
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: at some point Sam Rockwell dances.
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Sam Rockwell's I'm so glad I got to
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: see him perform live, even if it wasn't a not
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: great play by an even less great playwright.
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: What was it that you saw him in?
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: American Buffalo?
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: Oh?
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: Okay, by the same guy who wrote Glengarry Glenn.
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: Ross Oh maam itt.
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care for Mammut and American Buffalo was
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: a whatever kind of a play. But watching watching Sam
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: Rockwell and Lawrence Fishburne from like seven rows back was insane.
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Rockwell is an incredibly talented actor and
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: he comes across as just kind of a cool, weird guy,
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: and I dig that, Like, I hope he's a nice person.
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, I hope he. I hope he's happy
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: because he makes other people happy with his work.
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, this next thing we're talking about make you happy.
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: The Super Mario Galaxy movie.
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: Don't know never saw the first Super Mario movie, did you? No? Okay?
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: I did sing Peaches by Jack Black for King Bowser
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: in Pirates who Don't Do Anything mashup. That's the closest
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: I've gotten to.
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: The movie, of course you did. I know my niece
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: has loved it. I have not seen it because because
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: my niece also would sing Peaches when that movie first
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: came out, I have not seen it. I I thought
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: it looked okay. I kind of didn't care for the
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: fact that Chris Pratt was voicing Mario.
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: Uh.
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: I was just like, why am But but Charlie Day
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: as Luigi sounded like that was fine. And Jack Black
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: Taylor Joy Yeah, and Jack Black as Bowser. So we
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: got a trailer for Super Mario Galaxy movie. Since I
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: haven't seen the first one, I didn't realize that. Apparently
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: I'm guessing at the end of the movie, they shrink
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: Bowser down.
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: I guess so this trailer.
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's Bowser is tiny and living in a
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: little dollhouse. And the antagonist of this one appears to
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: be Bowser Junior, at least in the little trailer that
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: we got. Uh. And they also introduced the other princess, Rosalind.
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: Okay ye, yeah, I I wish sometimes that I could
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: be shrunk down and put into a little castle to live.
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: That sounds I don't object to that concept either. Honestly,
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: this comes out April third. I'm sure if you were
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: a fan of the first one, this will appeal to you.
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: It looks it looks cute. I have no objections to it.
- 1:13:23Speaker 2: I just still haven't seen the first one, so I
- 1:13:25Speaker 2: don't feel a deep need to see this one either.
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think my nephews liked it as well.
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: The next thing I thought for sure we were not
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: getting a second season of but now that we are,
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: I can go back and watch the first season, which
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: is Monarch Legacy of Monsters for Apple TV. Oh my gosh,
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: I am so excited. You made my week, Jonathan.
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: Yeah. It comes out February twenty seventh. There will be
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: ten episodes in this season two, and King Kong will
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: feature in it. Apparently, King I guess it's a spoiler
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: for you, Ariel, but apparently.
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: I watched the trailer.
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Kong only appears like in a moment
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: in the last episode of season one from what I understand,
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: and then season two has a lot of Kong action
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: in it. I didn't remember that this was a thing, Like,
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: I'm sure we talked about it, but I sure as
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: heck have no Like when this came up, I was like,
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: there's a season one.
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: Yeah, we did talk about it way way back, and
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: then I was able before I had long before I
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: had Apple TV, which thank you to our listener who
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: encouraged me to get it, because good choice. I'm really
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: enjoying Apple TV's catalog of entertainment. Far more hits than
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: misses for me. I got to watch it on a plane.
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: I got to watch the first episode and a half
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: on a plane, and it was really cool, cool because
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: even though the monsters were as central theme, they weren't
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: the main character of those first two episodes. It kind
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: of focused on the mystery around the monsters and the
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: people who were being affected. By the monsters, and there
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: were some time jumps and it felt very much like Lost.
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: The things that I liked about Lost in this series.
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: But I stopped watching it because I thought we weren't
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: going to get a season two. But we are, and
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: I was so excited.
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. I'm glad you're excited. I can't wait
- 1:15:31Speaker 2: to hear what you think about it once you catch
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: up through season one and then start season two. You
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: got a couple of months.
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: So the way that I'm plowing through TV, the hardest
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: things for me are going to be watching Frankenstein in
- 1:15:43Speaker 1: twelf night, because it's harder for me when I have
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: time to watch television is often the same time when
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: my spouse has time to watch television. And he's not
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: as big into the classic Monsters as I am. He
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: always found them a little cheesy and plane like not
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: captivating stories. Not to say that he hasn't found stories
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: with those characters captivating, but so I'll probably watch be
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: watching Frankenstein by myself. And he's not a big Shakespeare
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: fan exception of improvised Shakespeare that was phenomenal.
- 1:16:15Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure he'll find yet another version of Bruce
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: Wayne seeing his parents get murdered in cry Alley for
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: him to occupy his time.
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: He does love Batman. He does love Batman's.
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: I'm like he has no tolerance for the classic monsters,
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: but he just can't get enough of seeing young Bruce
- 1:16:35Speaker 2: Wayne watch his parents get murdered.
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: I mean no, he actually he actually does get really
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: tired of that. He's like, that's been done. Do a
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: different story with Batman, Like you don't just like the
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: same with like the Spider Man. You don't need to
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: see Uncle Ben die at the beginning of Every Spider
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: Man to get the count.
- 1:16:54Speaker 2: You don't even know if there is an Uncle Ben
- 1:16:56Speaker 2: in the MCU version.
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they kind of similar ground eventually.
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: But yeah, but you the only person who ever says
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: with great power comes great responsibility is Aunt May and
- 1:17:10Speaker 2: and then and then yeah, just before there is no
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: more Aunt May. Yeah, so spoiler for maybe it's been
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: out for years, we're about feel that one.
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't feel like it's been years, but it
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: has been definitely been long enough to talk about. But yeah, no,
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: like he likes Batman. He likes Batman as a character
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: and a concept of a character, and some of the
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: really cool things they've done with that character and with
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: the villains in it, because the world around Batman is
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: pretty interesting at times, but he does get tired of
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: always always seeing the pearls fall down into the alleyway.
- 1:17:45Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, someonet. I mean that that's been done so
- 1:17:49Speaker 2: much that there been like there's an episode of Harley
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: Quinn that's joking on that, right, that's like the whole
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: central joke, dark dark joke. Next up, we got a
- 1:18:00Speaker 2: trailer for season three of One Law, which is another
- 1:18:05Speaker 2: Apple TV series. I have not watched this one. It's
- 1:18:09Speaker 2: a sci fi fantasy series. It's based off a series
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: of books, and so I watched this and I included
- 1:18:18Speaker 2: it because it very much is representative of the genres
- 1:18:22Speaker 2: we talk about. But I'd be lying if I told
- 1:18:25Speaker 2: you I understood anything that was going on.
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: So I did not remember. I was like, One Law,
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: What the heck is One Law? There's season three? Why
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: are we talking about season three? And then when I
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: watched the trailer, I looked it up, but I'm like,
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: this does look vaguely familiar, and not just because it
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: feels like I guess if it's getting a third season,
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: a more successful successful version of Disney's Strange World. But
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: I do remember we talked about the first season a
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: while back. I couldn't tell you when because time has
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: time as o'clock and I have no hands. I don't
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: know whatever that phrase is anyhow, I.
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: Can't even begin to guess.
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was about a woman who had to
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: leave like her under under was coming out around the
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: same time, I think as Fallout, or I thought it was,
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: but it couldn't be if we're in season three already.
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: About a woman who lives in an underground bunker and
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: has to come out and discovers that Earth is now
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: this inhabited by all of these alien to her, alien
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: creatures that used to not exist there, whether through evolution
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: or mutation or invasion, I don't know, but then just
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: finding that maybe everything on the surface is not as
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: bad as she was raised to believe. So I do
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: remember seeing something about that and thinking it looked cool,
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: and then apparently it completely left my brain because now
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: we're on season three.
- 1:19:53Speaker 2: Yeah. In this one, there appears to be a rapidly
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: approaching confrontation between two massive forces, and meanwhile the main
- 1:20:04Speaker 2: character is convinced that both sides actually want the same thing,
- 1:20:09Speaker 2: and so she's trying to find a way to possibly
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: de escalate the situation and have everyone realize that their
- 1:20:18Speaker 2: points of view are more similar than they believe them
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: to be. That's what I got from this trailer. But again,
- 1:20:27Speaker 2: I've not watched any of this. I haven't read the books,
- 1:20:29Speaker 2: so I'm coming at this from significant amount of ignorance.
- 1:20:34Speaker 2: I know that it comes out on Apple TV on
- 1:20:36Speaker 2: November twenty sixth, and if you are a fan of
- 1:20:41Speaker 2: this series, I mean, this is the conclusion, and it
- 1:20:44Speaker 2: looks like it's really building to something big. It's just
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: being ignorant. Most of it went over my head, which
- 1:20:52Speaker 2: is not the fault of the series. That's my fault.
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: Yeah, if I can remember, I'll watch it because I
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: did want to watch it, But then we're going to end.
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: With it.
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: Was my favorite news of the week until I learned
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: about season two of Monarch Legacy of Monsters, which is
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: we got an official trailer for Fallout season two that
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: I am so very excited for.
- 1:21:18Speaker 2: Me too. The first season I really liked a lot.
- 1:21:22Speaker 2: I wouldn't call it the perfect television adaptation of Fallout,
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: but it was darn close. It was, and largely helped
- 1:21:31Speaker 2: by phenomenal performances like Goggins and Parnell.
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: And I think it's like the most grounded performance I've
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: seen of Walter Gaggins, which is weird to say, but
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: I really love it.
- 1:21:45Speaker 2: He's great as the goal Walton Gogs.
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: Yeah he's graised Walters.
- 1:21:51Speaker 2: Yeah, he's graised the goal. The Pernelle as Lucy is
- 1:21:54Speaker 2: also so good. I had not, as far as I know,
- 1:21:59Speaker 2: I had not seen her and anything else, or if
- 1:22:01Speaker 2: I had, I didn't know it was her because I
- 1:22:04Speaker 2: never watched Yellow Jackets or anything like that. And I
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: just was completely enamored of her performance, and then I
- 1:22:13Speaker 2: watched press Junkets with her, and then I just became
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: a huge fan of just her as a person, because
- 1:22:20Speaker 2: she seems like the kind of person, Like she seems
- 1:22:23Speaker 2: like the kind of person that would just be fun
- 1:22:25Speaker 2: to hang out with, Like, you know, you're going to
- 1:22:28Speaker 2: be laughing your butt off, and you're probably gonna get
- 1:22:30Speaker 2: into some trouble, not like serious trouble, but like the
- 1:22:34Speaker 2: trouble that's fun to talk about maybe six months later.
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but that's yeah.
- 1:22:42Speaker 2: Sorry, no, no, you're fine. I was gonna say though
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: the trailer itself looks great, it's it's largely set in
- 1:22:49Speaker 2: New Vegas, which that's kind of where the first season
- 1:22:54Speaker 2: was leading us too. You see a death claw at
- 1:22:58Speaker 2: one point in this trailer. You see Lucy wielding a
- 1:23:01Speaker 2: power fist at one point. Uh, there's clearly going to
- 1:23:05Speaker 2: be more with mister House, who plays a big part
- 1:23:08Speaker 2: in fall Out New Vegas. I think I read something somewhere,
- 1:23:12Speaker 2: and I don't know if this was official, but I
- 1:23:14Speaker 2: read something somewhere that this takes place something like seven
- 1:23:17Speaker 2: years after the events of Fallout New Vegas the game,
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: which is interesting also because, like, if you play the game,
- 1:23:28Speaker 2: you have to make decisions that determine the fate of
- 1:23:33Speaker 2: the Mojave wasteland, right, like the things you choose that
- 1:23:37Speaker 2: that determines what direction you go in. And you can
- 1:23:40Speaker 2: like side with mister House, you can side with a
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: faction called Kaiser's Legion, which are they are They make
- 1:23:48Speaker 2: all the other bad guys look tame in comparison, or
- 1:23:52Speaker 2: you can kind of go your own way, you know, Yeah,
- 1:23:56Speaker 2: but I don't know which. I mean. It has to
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: be either mister House or go your own way in
- 1:24:04Speaker 2: some manner.
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I just it's I love that this is a
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: I love this show, like you said, for stand up performances,
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: but not even from the main characters. There's a bunch
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: of tertiary characters who are actress that I love. But
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: they're those actors that were in that thing, you know,
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: not necessarily go oh, I know who. Yeah, like moyses Arius,
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: who plays Lucy's brother, phenomenal performance. I know him from Freakin'
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like Hannah Montana but
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: some Disney show, so great performance. He was also in
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: King of Staten Island. Zach Cherry's in it from Severance.
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: Leslie Ugghams, which is again a name you may not recognize,
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: but she plays blind Aul in Deadpool. Dale Dickey is
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: another actress who I love. Who, Like, I mean, just
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: so many good people that I'm so glad to see, Like,
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: not huge name act but actors who I really love
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: their body of work.
- 1:25:03Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, people who who consistently deliver solid performances and
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: elevate the things that they're in, even if they're not
- 1:25:12Speaker 2: like carrying the film or series or whatever. Yeah, I
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: think that, Like, I have been consistently impressed with the
- 1:25:21Speaker 2: casting of Fallout, and I'm hopeful that that continues on
- 1:25:27Speaker 2: with season two. The trailer looks great. It comes out,
- 1:25:31Speaker 2: starts coming out on December seventeenth. It is a series,
- 1:25:34Speaker 2: so it'll be releasing an episode a week until the
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: finale on February fourth, So December seventeenth is when it starts.
- 1:25:42Speaker 2: A lot of good TV, a lot of good streaming
- 1:25:44Speaker 2: TV coming out this year, Like.
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: It's it's going to be a problem for me because
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: my group watch wants to watch both mighty nine and Fallout.
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: Mighty nine won't be done by the time Fallout comes out,
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: so we were starting to debate, like how are we
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: going to do that?
- 1:26:00Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for me, it's like it's it's balancing stuff,
- 1:26:06Speaker 2: like Welcome to Dairy. I'm enjoying I'm enjoying it more
- 1:26:11Speaker 2: than I'm not. But it is the one series I
- 1:26:16Speaker 2: feel will be the first to go on the chopping
- 1:26:18Speaker 2: block if things turn even stupider than they already are. Yeah. Yeah,
- 1:26:23Speaker 2: So it's I already said like, there's a major thing
- 1:26:26Speaker 2: that I think is stupid, and if it gets stupider,
- 1:26:31Speaker 2: I think I might pull the eject cord. Pluribus would
- 1:26:36Speaker 2: have to do a lot of dumb things for me
- 1:26:38Speaker 2: to bail on that, because I'm really impressed with it
- 1:26:41Speaker 2: so far. That's not to say that it's impossible. Don't
- 1:26:44Speaker 2: take me up on that, Vince. Just keep doing what
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: you're doing and tell a really cool story.
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: I mean, if it starts to just be the same
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: thing every week in tread's water, but we're two episodes in,
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: so yeah, there's no reason to think that'll be the case.
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: I did feel that Better Call Saul was a little
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: slow towards the beginning. It wasn't that it was bad,
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: but it was like the hits weren't fast enough to
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: keep me going, Oh, I need to wash what's next? Yeah,
- 1:27:11Speaker 1: so it fell off my radar for a while. Pluribus
- 1:27:14Speaker 1: has not done that for me yet.
- 1:27:17Speaker 2: So it is true that sometimes in any show, really
- 1:27:23Speaker 2: you can run into an episode where it feels like
- 1:27:25Speaker 2: they're treading water because they're obligated to do a set
- 1:27:29Speaker 2: number of episodes a season and they can't advance the
- 1:27:32Speaker 2: story too much or they'll run out of story. That
- 1:27:35Speaker 2: happens a lot. I think it happened.
- 1:27:37Speaker 1: I feel like it used to happen more.
- 1:27:39Speaker 2: Well, it used to be that a season of a
- 1:27:41Speaker 2: show was twenty two or twenty four episodes, so it
- 1:27:44Speaker 2: is way easier to run out like Buffy or Supernatural
- 1:27:49Speaker 2: or something like that. But now we're in like these
- 1:27:52Speaker 2: these it's almost more like English series, right, yeah, where
- 1:27:56Speaker 2: it's like six to ten episodes. Those I feel, if
- 1:28:02Speaker 2: you are careful, you can pace it out properly so
- 1:28:06Speaker 2: that it doesn't feel like you're treading water. I know
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: some people feel like Stranger Things has been doing that,
- 1:28:12Speaker 2: and you know, now we've got a season where every
- 1:28:14Speaker 2: episode is more than an hour long.
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: Yeah, I well, we'll see. I've enjoyed Stranger Things up
- 1:28:22Speaker 1: to this point. I know I've said so I will
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: watch it. I'm not super excited about the final season,
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: but it will be nice to have that closure. I
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: kind of feel the other way with the shorter series,
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: and I know we need to wrap up for me, Yeah,
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: but I feel that I feel the opposite about the
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: shorter series. I feel like sometimes when you only have
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: eight or ten episodes, you're rushing to put too much in,
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: and so the story might feel a little bit rushed
- 1:28:47Speaker 1: or like you're missing pieces of development or character growth.
- 1:28:51Speaker 1: I think I hope that media finds a nice balance somewhere,
- 1:28:54Speaker 1: because like, the six episode series are honestly a little
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: too short for me.
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: I think it can be done. I mean, we've got
- 1:29:01Speaker 2: movies that only last an hour and a half where
- 1:29:04Speaker 2: you're like, I felt that they did everything they needed
- 1:29:06Speaker 2: to do to tell that story.
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: That's true.
- 1:29:08Speaker 2: So it's just it's really it's just finding the right
- 1:29:12Speaker 2: approach for the amount of time that you've negotiated, right,
- 1:29:17Speaker 2: And there's so many factors. I can't even imagine what
- 1:29:20Speaker 2: that must be like to go in and negotiate how
- 1:29:23Speaker 2: many episodes are going to make up a season, Like
- 1:29:26Speaker 2: how how long do you think it will take you
- 1:29:29Speaker 2: to tell the story you want to tell? And you know,
- 1:29:32Speaker 2: I can imagine there being cases where the studio's eager
- 1:29:36Speaker 2: for it to take up more time, and then you're like, well, crap,
- 1:29:40Speaker 2: I had a story in mind that was eight episodes long,
- 1:29:42Speaker 2: but they want twelve episodes, so I have to invent
- 1:29:45Speaker 2: four episodes now, like that kind of thing.
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: I'm sure that happened more seasons Supernatural.
- 1:29:50Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sou but yeah, we're it's a good
- 1:29:54Speaker 2: problem to have an embarrassment of riches, you know, where
- 1:29:58Speaker 2: I'm always pleased when I can look out there and
- 1:30:01Speaker 2: see stuff I find genuinely interesting that I want to
- 1:30:05Speaker 2: check out. And I still have a very long list
- 1:30:08Speaker 2: of movies that I need to watch, including recent ones,
- 1:30:12Speaker 2: so I'm hoping that I get around to that soon too.
- 1:30:16Speaker 2: Friend of the show shay Lee told me she saw
- 1:30:19Speaker 2: Shelby Oaks, which was one of the movies that I
- 1:30:22Speaker 2: was kind of hoping to see, and she liked it.
- 1:30:25Speaker 2: Shelby Oaks is like a missing sister movie. The adult sister,
- 1:30:32Speaker 2: like her, her sister was an adult when she went missing.
- 1:30:35Speaker 2: The adult sister comes finds a videotape that has her
- 1:30:39Speaker 2: missing sister on it years after she's gone missing, and
- 1:30:42Speaker 2: it opens up the whole like attempt to find out
- 1:30:46Speaker 2: what has happened thing, And it's a sort of a
- 1:30:48Speaker 2: horror mystery. I've heard somewhat mediocre things from that, but
- 1:30:54Speaker 2: she enjoyed it well enough, and that's one that I
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: still need to check out. Like, I don't know, I
- 1:31:01Speaker 2: don't know if I like it or not, but I'm
- 1:31:03Speaker 2: still curious about it.
- 1:31:05Speaker 1: Yeah. I Last weekend, we were debating seeing either Predator,
- 1:31:08Speaker 1: bad Lands, good Fortune, or roof Man. The latter two
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: were ones that interested me, but I wasn't like I
- 1:31:15Speaker 1: have to see them at a theater. Yeah, well, I
- 1:31:17Speaker 1: can't really see Good Fortune or Roofman at a theater.
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: There are very few showings of it. You can still technically,
- 1:31:22Speaker 1: but I'd have to go a little further out at
- 1:31:24Speaker 1: times that I'm not available. We didn't see Predator bad
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: Lands just because we would both kind of feeling like homebodies.
- 1:31:30Speaker 1: But it's still got really good reviews. My husband's more
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: excited for Running Man, though the reviews are the critical
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: reviews are not great.
- 1:31:38Speaker 2: That's a shame. I was really hoping that this would
- 1:31:40Speaker 2: be kind of a return to form from Edgar Wright.
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: So I think it is like reading the reviews because
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: it's sixty three percent fresh critical on Rotten Tomatoes. I think,
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: you know, you have the story purists who like the
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: changes right or or like Edgar Wright has a more
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: fun tone than I would say the novel the Running
- 1:32:07Speaker 1: Man has.
- 1:32:08Speaker 2: Absolutely and then you, I guess you would also have
- 1:32:10Speaker 2: the people who are fans of the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie,
- 1:32:13Speaker 2: which was not at all faithful to the novel, but
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: they are fans of that, and so anything that's not
- 1:32:19Speaker 2: that they're going to be upset with too.
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've been. But I know a lot of times,
- 1:32:24Speaker 1: like a critical rating and an audience writing can very
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: differ drastically. Yeah, so I just keep kind of spamming
- 1:32:30Speaker 1: to see when the audience reviews come in.
- 1:32:32Speaker 2: I often find myself more toward the critics side than
- 1:32:37Speaker 2: the general audience side. I don't know what that says
- 1:32:39Speaker 2: about me, but it does make me a little concerned.
- 1:32:44Speaker 2: I mean, I also, I think I've been on record
- 1:32:47Speaker 2: multiple times that I find Glenn Powell to be very
- 1:32:50Speaker 2: boring as an actor.
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's so many other good actors in it.
- 1:32:54Speaker 2: I say, he's the protagonist, like, he's the person you're
- 1:32:57Speaker 2: hanging in the movie.
- 1:32:58Speaker 1: On look, maybe this will be like Edge of Tomorrow
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: where you're like, oh man, this is the thing I
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: really like him. And I say that because that's the
- 1:33:06Speaker 1: thing that I really like Tom Cruise and was Edge
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: of Tomorrow thought he did a phenomenal job in that. No, No,
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: Tim Curry and Legend though.
- 1:33:15Speaker 2: Yeah, Legend is a horror movie.
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so much loincloth, so much loincloth. No, But like,
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: and it's not to say that Tom Cruise has done
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: bad performances. He does decent performances, but I've never been like, oh,
- 1:33:29Speaker 1: I'm a Tom outside of anything personal, right or or social,
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: just based on his performance. I've never been like, I'm
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: a huge fan of Tom Cruise. Yeah, but I loved
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: Edge of Tomorrow. It was a fantastic performance. It was
- 1:33:44Speaker 1: also a wonderful.
- 1:33:45Speaker 2: Movie Tropic Thunder.
- 1:33:48Speaker 1: That was also good. That's the other standout for me
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: for him, So maybe this will be Glenn Powell's standout.
- 1:33:52Speaker 2: It's just that maybe. But Tropic Thunder was just like
- 1:33:56Speaker 2: such a wild curveball, like it was so different from
- 1:34:00Speaker 2: anything else Tom Cruise has ever done.
- 1:34:02Speaker 1: And I don't know if it would hold up. I
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: haven't watched it recently.
- 1:34:06Speaker 2: It would be it is insanely offensive, but it's doing
- 1:34:10Speaker 2: it in a way that it knows what it's doing.
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: So so your mileage may vary. Tom Cruise plays a
- 1:34:18Speaker 2: very offensive character and I loved his performance. Yeah, it's
- 1:34:23Speaker 2: my favorite part of that movie honestly. And yeah, I
- 1:34:28Speaker 2: don't know, but Glenn Powell looks like he's doing standard
- 1:34:31Speaker 2: action hero stuff and that's very generic, and to me,
- 1:34:36Speaker 2: he comes across as a very generic actor. So it
- 1:34:39Speaker 2: doesn't look like he's bringing anything interesting to the role
- 1:34:42Speaker 2: from the trailer. I have not watched the movie, so I.
- 1:34:46Speaker 1: Mean I could say that the lead of Baby Driver
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: felt pretty generic to me, and yet I really enjoyed
- 1:34:52Speaker 1: that movie.
- 1:34:52Speaker 2: That's true, you are. I mean, I like Baby Driver
- 1:34:57Speaker 2: despite the antagonist, well not the antagonist, despite a supporting
- 1:35:02Speaker 2: character played by a first character and the lead character
- 1:35:07Speaker 2: who was just boring. The lead I was just boring.
- 1:35:10Speaker 2: The supporting character was played by a terrible.
- 1:35:13Speaker 1: Person, yes, yes, but there were so many wonderful performers
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: in it. I own Baby Driver. I bought it before
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: we knew about this terrible person being terrible, but also,
- 1:35:24Speaker 1: like I want to support the other actors in that movie,
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: so I still own it and I.
- 1:35:28Speaker 2: Still like it. You also like to look at my
- 1:35:29Speaker 2: house in the background of that one shot.
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: That is true.
- 1:35:33Speaker 2: That is true, just positive that moment, and like as
- 1:35:36Speaker 2: Jonathan walking timbleed in this frame, I am not.
- 1:35:39Speaker 1: I mean for sure, for sure, I do that, and
- 1:35:41Speaker 1: everything I know is filmed in Atlanta because half of
- 1:35:43Speaker 1: it's filmed by your house.
- 1:35:45Speaker 2: It used to be. It's changed now, but that is
- 1:35:47Speaker 2: true once upon a time.
- 1:35:49Speaker 1: Yeah, now, I mean now, there's a big studio like
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: fifteen minutes from my house, which is pretty awesome. I
- 1:35:55Speaker 1: look forward to the day where I get.
- 1:35:56Speaker 2: A job there. Well, we should probably wrap this up
- 1:35:59Speaker 2: and consider we've gone long, and I know you have obligations,
- 1:36:02Speaker 2: as do I. I will go ahead and tell you,
- 1:36:05Speaker 2: Ariel that it is impossible to get in touch with
- 1:36:08Speaker 2: me and ask me any questions this week. Don't even
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- 1:36:14Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I will miss talking to you, Jonathan, so
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- 1:36:46Speaker 1: And until next time, I am Ariel, Nope, got nothing caston.
- 1:36:56Speaker 2: And I am Jonathan Edgar wrong Strickland, that was so good.
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