Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Ron Johnson | U.S. Senator from Wisconsin Reacts to Democrats Dominating the 2026 Midterm Elections
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ron Johnson is one of my favorite people in politics.
- 0:03Speaker 1: You guys know that. An amazing senator from the great
- 0:06Speaker 1: state of Wisconsin. I guess I'll start with this, Ron.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Congratulations on your Milwaukee Brewers winning the World Series.
- 0:16Speaker 2: That was a bright spot and puts a smile on
- 0:19Speaker 2: my face. It was fun to watch. They were a team.
- 0:24Speaker 2: No prima donnas on that. Just a team playing fundamental
- 0:26Speaker 2: baseball and they won the World Championship. So, The fans
- 0:30Speaker 2: here in Wisconsin are great fans. They've been waiting for
- 0:34Speaker 2: this for a long time. So that really was wonderful
- 0:36Speaker 2: versus last night, which was awful. And by the way, Sid,
- 0:40Speaker 2: I completely agree with you. I think that this election
- 0:44Speaker 2: was driven by hate of Trump. But where I disagree
- 0:47Speaker 2: with you is when you say that these leftist politicians
- 0:52Speaker 2: haven't accomplished anything, They've accomplished a great deal in terms
- 0:56Speaker 2: of infiltrating and taking over our education system over the decades,
- 1:00Speaker 2: our media, government, the deep state. So, again, they're very,
- 1:06Speaker 2: very relentless. They've got a very long-term view. This is
- 1:10Speaker 2: a long-term plan of theirs. Dumb down our population. Take
- 1:16Speaker 2: a look at these on-the-street interviews with young people. It's
- 1:21Speaker 2: frightening to what little they know. It's frightening the fact
- 1:25Speaker 2: that a large percentage of them are embracing socialism. A
- 1:28Speaker 2: large percentage of the American population. I mean, how can
- 1:31Speaker 2: that be? I mean, 100 years ago, I can understand
- 1:34Speaker 2: after the Great Depression looking for a different economic model,
- 1:37Speaker 2: but now a century later when we see the devastation
- 1:40Speaker 2: of socialism, it destroys economies, nations, people's lives, results in
- 1:45Speaker 2: the death, the murder of tens of millions of people.
- 1:48Speaker 2: And now we in America have a rising tide of socialism. Again, it's,
- 1:55Speaker 2: it's so again, no, the left has been incredibly effective
- 2:00Speaker 2: at undermining this country, undermining institutions. And the last night
- 2:05Speaker 2: was devastating. I mean, it is going to take a
- 2:08Speaker 2: long time to claw, to claw freedom back from these guys.
- 2:12Speaker 1: You're right. What you said too, about the left, they
- 2:13Speaker 1: have done all that. Forget about socialism. Let's graduate to communism.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Let's talk about antisemitism and, One candidate alone, Abdul El-Sayed,
- 2:21Speaker 1: he represents all of that. And he wins relatively easily
- 2:25Speaker 1: in Michigan over Mike Rogers. But you did agree about
- 2:28Speaker 1: President Trump. So now Trump comes out this morning. You
- 2:31Speaker 1: know how much I love President Trump. He says, nah,
- 2:33Speaker 1: I'll work with the Democrats. Two days ago, they were Democrats.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Now he's going to work with the Democrats. What does
- 2:39Speaker 1: Trump do the last two years to restore some sanity
- 2:43Speaker 1: to our Republican Party?
- 2:47Speaker 2: It's going to be difficult. I think the question is
- 2:49Speaker 2: going to be what are Democrats going to do? You know,
- 2:52Speaker 2: because we lost the Senate, my guess is I'll be
- 2:55Speaker 2: sitting in another impeachment trial for President Trump, maybe for
- 3:00Speaker 2: Secretary of State Hegseth. And that's what they're talking about.
- 3:02Speaker 2: I mean, I think one of the Democrat senators, one
- 3:07Speaker 2: word to tweet, subpoenas.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I saw another one that said two words,
- 3:14Speaker 1: lawyer up. That was scary.
- 3:17Speaker 2: So again, American people want their lot in life improved.
- 3:21Speaker 2: I mean, that is what they want. Socialism won't do it.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Big government spending. Democrats' concept of making life affordable is
- 3:28Speaker 2: having another government program that will be rife with fraud,
- 3:33Speaker 2: mortgaging our children's future, but subsidizing the people they don't
- 3:37Speaker 2: want to subsidize. You know, look at Obamacare. It's been
- 3:39Speaker 2: a complete disaster. It's not affordable. They protect patients. but
- 3:43Speaker 2: they hid what a disaster has been by these enhanced subsidies.
- 3:47Speaker 2: You know, like nobody's going to notice. And quite honestly,
- 3:49Speaker 2: most people didn't notice. They don't understand the details of
- 3:53Speaker 2: these things. So again, we're not educating, we're not educating
- 3:56Speaker 2: our children, we're not educating the public through the media. And,
- 3:59Speaker 2: you know, again, I'm, I'm not an optimist, quite honestly.
- 4:05Speaker 2: I'm not the most uplifting person, but this is... Last
- 4:07Speaker 2: night was not good.
- 4:08Speaker 1: No, it's terrible. It's awful. I'm with you. I'm not
- 4:11Speaker 1: an optimist either. I think we're in very, very, very, very,
- 4:14Speaker 1: very big trouble in this country. I really do. And
- 4:16Speaker 1: I got to tell you, Republicans, even more than Democrats...
- 4:20Speaker 1: that I spoke to Ron Johnson the last couple of weeks.
- 4:23Speaker 1: They don't like John Thune. Sorry, they don't like him.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Now you got Chuck Schumer, so maybe they will like
- 4:29Speaker 1: John Thune a little more this morning. But how's that
- 4:32Speaker 1: going to be, walking into the Senate on January 1st
- 4:36Speaker 1: and having everybody's favorite Palestinian, Chuck Schumer, as the new boss?
- 4:43Speaker 2: It's going to be awful. You know, it's not it's
- 4:44Speaker 2: not going to be fun. You know, I said I
- 4:47Speaker 2: keep trying to point out to people that, you know,
- 4:49Speaker 2: I sprang from the Tea Party. And unfortunately, the Republican
- 4:52Speaker 2: establishment pretty well quashed the Tea Party. Yeah, obviously, obviously,
- 4:56Speaker 2: I had to join the conference that I'm closest with,
- 4:59Speaker 2: which is the Republican Party. not going to caucus with Democrats. But,
- 5:03Speaker 2: you know, Republicans did not, you know, in the end,
- 5:06Speaker 2: they didn't embrace what the Tea Party stood for, you know,
- 5:11Speaker 2: principled patriotism, principled reverence for the values of our founding fathers,
- 5:17Speaker 2: the genius of what they set up for us, you know,
- 5:19Speaker 2: a limited government, fiscal conservatism. The Republican Party pretty well
- 5:24Speaker 2: just ignored that. And, you know, they became big spenders, too.
- 5:27Speaker 2: I mean, You know, I was not a real big
- 5:29Speaker 2: fan of the one big, beautiful deal because we didn't return.
- 5:32Speaker 2: We didn't use that vehicle. Our only chance to return
- 5:35Speaker 2: to a reasonable pre-pandemic level spending. We went from $ 4. 4
- 5:38Speaker 2: trillion to $ 6. 5 trillion and never looked back. This year
- 5:41Speaker 2: we spent about $ 7. 4 trillion. There's no justification for that.
- 5:47Speaker 2: But Republicans didn't dig our heels in. It's a huge
- 5:52Speaker 2: blown opportunity, one that I'm not happy with at all.
- 5:55Speaker 2: And of course, trying to buy votes with the temporary
- 5:58Speaker 2: tax cuts and a road to housing bill and the
- 6:02Speaker 2: sports bill, that didn't work, did it? No, not at all.
- 6:06Speaker 2: We need a serious reassessment. They've scheduled leadership elections for
- 6:11Speaker 2: the next Tuesday. Personally, I think that's completely unacceptable. We
- 6:17Speaker 2: need to have a discussion in our conference and figure
- 6:19Speaker 2: out hey, guys, are we going to finally, like, embrace
- 6:22Speaker 2: some principles to guide our conference? Are we going to
- 6:25Speaker 2: establish some goals here? Are we going to have a strategy?
- 6:29Speaker 2: I've been here now, this is, you know, 16 years,
- 6:31Speaker 2: and we haven't had one yet.
- 6:34Speaker 1: Wow. I didn't realize that. You know, going back, though,
- 6:37Speaker 1: to the tweet that one Democrat put out there, lawyer up,
- 6:41Speaker 1: and the other one, which you talked about, which was impeach.
- 6:44Speaker 1: He's going to be impeached, there's no doubt about it.
- 6:46Speaker 1: But The consensus is that there will not be enough
- 6:49Speaker 1: votes in the Senate, even though the Senate flipped last
- 6:53Speaker 1: night to actually remove President Trump from office. That sounds right, right?
- 7:00Speaker 2: Probably. It kind of depends on what they all find. Now, again,
- 7:07Speaker 2: had we retained the majority, we probably would have done
- 7:09Speaker 2: what Schumer did with Secretary Marrakesh when the House impeached him.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Schumer just dismissed the charges. We probably would have done
- 7:17Speaker 2: that if we were in control. Now Democrats are in control.
- 7:20Speaker 2: They're going to be happy to have a trial in
- 7:23Speaker 2: the Senate for whoever the House decides to impeach. And
- 7:27Speaker 2: it will depend on what they find.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Why do I keep hearing Ron Johnson that, like you said,
- 7:33Speaker 1: it'll be Donald Trump, it'll be Pete Hegseth. Heck, they
- 7:36Speaker 1: could subpoena, I know it sounds crazy, Sid Rosenberg. Because
- 7:40Speaker 1: I've been in the president's company, we like each other.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Do you think it'll be that widespread and that crazy
- 7:47Speaker 1: the next two years?
- 7:49Speaker 2: Look at it. History shows us leftists are brutal. I mean,
- 7:53Speaker 2: they're vicious and they crave power. That's that's their unifying motivation. Leftists,
- 8:03Speaker 2: the liberals, Democrats crave power. And, you know, as Lord
- 8:07Speaker 2: Atkins said, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. And they've
- 8:12Speaker 2: got a lot of power. I mean, obviously, you know,
- 8:14Speaker 2: absolute power because you have Trump as president for two years,
- 8:18Speaker 2: threatening video. You know, saying he's going to try and
- 8:20Speaker 2: work with them. My concern is the definition of working
- 8:23Speaker 2: Democrats is just furthermore, Jerry Kidd's future. Right. Right.
- 8:28Speaker 1: I mean, do you think in the end, though, Ron Johnson, that,
- 8:31Speaker 1: you know, you talked about how you were a Tea
- 8:33Speaker 1: Party guy and the closest thing you had was Republican Party,
- 8:36Speaker 1: but they're not the Tea Party. Do you think with
- 8:40Speaker 1: all the Trump talk, let's be honest here. that our
- 8:43Speaker 1: candidates were good enough because I saw a lot of
- 8:46Speaker 1: guys out there, and some women, that I just didn't really,
- 8:49Speaker 1: they didn't appeal to me. Now, of course, I'd vote
- 8:51Speaker 1: for them if I was in those cities because I'm
- 8:53Speaker 1: a MAGA Republican, but to be honest, they didn't really
- 8:56Speaker 1: appeal to me. You think that was part of the issue?
- 9:00Speaker 2: Without a doubt. I mean, without a doubt. You know, listen,
- 9:04Speaker 2: you know, I like Darlene Graham. You know, she was
- 9:08Speaker 2: mourning her brother's loss. she admitted, I don't know anything
- 9:13Speaker 2: about foreign policy. What was Trump doing all of a
- 9:17Speaker 2: sudden endorsing her? Ralph Norman would have been a great senator.
- 9:20Speaker 2: He's a true conservative. And he lost the close primary there.
- 9:26Speaker 2: I don't know. This is such a tsunami. I'm not
- 9:31Speaker 2: sure whether he would have won, but South Carolina did
- 9:34Speaker 2: elect a Republican governor. But Ken Paxton was obviously had
- 9:40Speaker 2: all kinds of ethics issues. I mean, the Republicans I
- 9:45Speaker 2: really respect said they could not vote for him. So
- 9:49Speaker 2: that was a real issue. And again, Tallarico won by
- 9:51Speaker 2: a large margin. So obviously, that was a problem. But again,
- 9:55Speaker 2: the sweeping nature of the loss here, we don't even
- 10:00Speaker 2: know whether we're going to win Mississippi.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Wow. That is unbelievable.
- 10:03Speaker 2: It really is.
- 10:04Speaker 1: So, wrapping up this conversation, Ron Johnson, thank God we
- 10:07Speaker 1: still love you. I mean that sincerely. You know I
- 10:09Speaker 1: love you, but thank God we still love you. Tsunami
- 10:13Speaker 1: is the word, not even wave. We've gone to tsunami.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Do you expect it to be, and I've kind of
- 10:19Speaker 1: intimated it already, but just to wrap this up, a
- 10:22Speaker 1: very chaotic couple of years?
- 10:24Speaker 2: It's just hard to predict. The problem is, Republicans, we
- 10:30Speaker 2: don't like chaos. We don't want government shutdowns because it
- 10:34Speaker 2: actually ends up costing us more than anything else. There's always.
- 10:39Speaker 2: There always seems to be just enough Republicans to go
- 10:42Speaker 2: ahead and sign on to the Democrat agenda. But again,
- 10:45Speaker 2: what that means is we're not going to get spending
- 10:47Speaker 2: under control. Democrats' only solution is spend more money, throw
- 10:51Speaker 2: more money at government programs where they waste it. I mean,
- 10:53Speaker 2: we got Aspen as much as a trillion dollars per
- 10:56Speaker 2: year in fraud. Democrats have no problem with that. So
- 10:59Speaker 2: there's always going to be, you know, we got big
- 11:01Speaker 2: spending Republicans too. That's our problem. You know, the Republican
- 11:04Speaker 2: Party did not embrace the Tea Party movement. They quashed it.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Yep, they did.
- 11:08Speaker 2: They, you know, So again, that's what I find and
- 11:13Speaker 2: I've always found enormously frustrating. People like me are vastly
- 11:17Speaker 2: outnumbered on both sides of the aisle in Washington, D.C.,
- 11:20Speaker 2: which is why we're $ 40 trillion in debt on a
- 11:23Speaker 2: path to incur $ 26 trillion in additional debt over the
- 11:27Speaker 2: next 10 years. $ 26 trillion is the projected deficit.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Ron Johnson, would you like to see the Republican Party
- 11:34Speaker 1: get very serious about about their next presidential candidate as
- 11:37Speaker 1: soon as possible?
- 11:38Speaker 2: J.D.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Vance announced something. Marco Rubio announced something. Do you want
- 11:42Speaker 1: to see us move on after getting hammered in the
- 11:44Speaker 1: House and the Senate to the next election sooner than later?
- 11:48Speaker 2: We're going to have to, but again, I would like
- 11:51Speaker 2: a Republican candidate that's going to embrace pretty much the
- 11:54Speaker 2: principles of the Tea Party.
- 11:56Speaker 1: Who's the guy out there right now, in your opinion,
- 11:59Speaker 1: because you're the smartest you really are, who's the guy
- 12:01Speaker 1: out there right now, a gal, that represents that?
- 12:04Speaker 2: Who is it? We'll have to see who steps forward
- 12:07Speaker 2: and what they say.
- 12:09Speaker 1: Well, you're not about to... It's not J.D.
- 12:11Speaker 2: Vance, is it? In the end, I will continue. And
- 12:14Speaker 2: quite honestly, I'm working right now. I'm the chairman of
- 12:16Speaker 2: the Senate Budget Committee for the next couple of months.
- 12:19Speaker 2: I'm working on a report. I'll issue it. We'll hold hearings,
- 12:22Speaker 2: laying out the fiscal situation. We're going to be talking
- 12:24Speaker 2: about why Social Security is a legal Ponzi scheme and
- 12:28Speaker 2: how grossly mismanaged it's been. We're going to lay out
- 12:31Speaker 2: the facts... Because if you're going to solve a problem,
- 12:33Speaker 2: we have this enormous problem to solve. You have to
- 12:35Speaker 2: agree on the facts. You have to lay out the
- 12:38Speaker 2: principles and goals of what your solutions are. Then you
- 12:40Speaker 2: work on solutions. The problem in Washington, D.C. is everybody's
- 12:43Speaker 2: got their solution, which is not a solution like the
- 12:45Speaker 2: Affordable Care Patient Protection Affordable Care Act. It's got a
- 12:49Speaker 2: great name. It was a complete failure because it was
- 12:52Speaker 2: a solution before you laid out the reality situation. So
- 12:56Speaker 2: that's all I can do is what I can do.
- 12:59Speaker 2: I'm going to keep telling the truth. I'm going to
- 13:00Speaker 2: keep laying out the facts and we'll see whether other.
- 13:04Speaker 2: People running for office are going to embrace him. Or
- 13:06Speaker 2: whether they're just going to use demagoguery and rhetoric and
- 13:08Speaker 2: just continue to run this nation to the ground.
- 13:11Speaker 1: Oh, boy. Ron Johnson, you really are great. You're a
- 13:13Speaker 1: great American. I mean that. You know, I really feel
- 13:15Speaker 1: that way, too. I'm not just patronizing you. Ron Johnson,
- 13:18Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on this terrible morning.
- 13:20Speaker 1: But you were terrific. Thank you so much.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Have a great day. Wish I could be more uplifting.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're great. God bless you, Ron. Don't ever change, man.
- 13:28Speaker 1: We need honesty, and you are honest.
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- 14:00Speaker 2: What the heck is going on here?