Latest / Fork U with Dr. Terry Simpson / The Egg: From Villain to Victory
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- 0:04>> Dr. Terry Simpson: Today, we're talking about the egg.
- 0:06Once demonized, now celebrated, and
- 0:09currently so expensive you might need a loan to make an
- 0:11omelet. Let's break it down. Why did the egg
- 0:14get canceled? How did it make a comeback? And why
- 0:17are we all suddenly paying luxury taxes for
- 0:20breakfast? M.
- 0:23I am your Chief Medical Explanationist, Dr. Terri Simpson,
- 0:26and this is Fork U Fork
- 0:29University, where we make sense of the madness, bust
- 0:32a few myths, and teach you a little bit about food and
- 0:35its intersection with medicine.
- 0:40Picture it. 1968,
- 0:43the Beatles are topping the charts, man is about to
- 0:46land on the moon, and the American Heart association
- 0:49is dropping a bombshell. Eggs, they
- 0:51say, are trying to kill us. They declared that
- 0:54dietary cholesterol was a heart attack waiting to
- 0:57happen, and told everyone to eat fewer than three
- 1:00eggs a week. Three eggs a week? That's not
- 1:03enough for a proper brunch. But here's the kicker.
- 1:06That decision was not
- 1:09driven by physicians or medical
- 1:12evidence or some new groundbreaking
- 1:15study. Nope. This was a classic of,
- 1:18well, we really don't know how to
- 1:20decrease the risk of heart disease in this country,
- 1:23but cutting cholesterol might help, so let's just roll with
- 1:28was a precautionary principal move, basically
- 1:31meaning they were saying, we don't have proof
- 1:34this will work, but sounds logical, so let's ban eggs
- 1:36anyway. There weren't any randomized control
- 1:39trials. There was no solid clinical data,
- 1:42just an assumption wrapped in a dietary
- 1:45guideline. Meanwhile, real
- 1:47scientists, those annoying people who actually study
- 1:50this stuff, had known since 1950
- 1:53because they had tested it. Dietary
- 1:55cholesterol had minimal impact on
- 1:58blood cholesterol. Saturated fat had a
- 2:01huge impact. Dietary cholesterol, not so
- 2:04much. But did the policymakers listen?
- 2:07Nope. Instead, we got decades of
- 2:09people swapping eggs for cereal and
- 2:12margarine, which, fun fact, turned out to
- 2:15be worse for heart health.
- 2:18Well played. So
- 2:21let's follow the money. Who really wrote
- 2:24those guidelines? Because if you thought they were
- 2:27written by a group of independent scientists
- 2:29sitting in a lab analyzing data, I have
- 2:32some bad news for you. The truth is,
- 2:35dietary guidelines are heavily influenced by
- 2:38industry. The food industry, which incorporates
- 2:40the agricultural industry, the processed food
- 2:43companies. They all have a seat at the table.
- 2:46Why? First of all, they're the experts
- 2:49in the field. But these guidelines
- 2:51shape what's in school lunches, hospital meals,
- 2:55military rations, and what is pushed in public
- 2:57health campaigns. And when billions of dollars
- 3:00are on the line, you can better believe it, that
- 3:03industry wants a say in what's healthy.
- 3:06That's why for decades, we got a food pyramid that, that
- 3:09told us to eat six to 11 servings of bread, pasta
- 3:12and cereal a day. That was brought to you by the
- 3:15grain industry because the grain industry
- 3:17had way too much excess grain based on the
- 3:20agricultural policies started during the Nixon administration
- 3:24because they could demonize fat. Low
- 3:26fat processed foods were the hot new
- 3:29product. And it's why eggs,
- 3:32unprocessed at that time, inexpensive,
- 3:35nutritionally dense food was, was literally thrown under
- 3:38the bus. I mean, they were. Seriously, they had ads where
- 3:41they threw eggs under a bus while cholesterol free
- 3:43cookies and sugary cereals got a pass.
- 3:46That makes no sense, does it? So
- 3:49when eggs got this bad for your heart label,
- 3:52it wasn't just because of misunderstood
- 3:55science. It was because processed food
- 3:58companies saw the opportunity to push
- 4:00alternatives like egg beaters.
- 4:02Cholesterol free margin, and all of that heart
- 4:05healthy, low fat junk food
- 4:08flooded the market. The worst part, the
- 4:11public believed it. But we
- 4:14wouldn't be fitting our Star wars theme if we didn't say
- 4:17science strikes back. So after
- 4:20the 1968 egg panic, egg farmers found
- 4:22themselves in the middle of a PR nightmare. If
- 4:25they defended eggs, they'd be accused of prioritizing
- 4:28profits over public health. If they stayed
- 4:31quiet, eggs would go the way of the
- 4:33dinosaurs. Or maybe the way of canned
- 4:36asparagus. But science wasn't
- 4:38on the American Heart Association's side. The
- 4:41egg industry backed real research, which found
- 4:44shockingly, eating an egg does not
- 4:47instantly clog your arteries like stuffing butter into a
- 4:50straw. But did that matter?
- 4:52Nope. By the 1980s, the
- 4:55low cholesterol craze was in its full
- 4:58swing. People were buying cholesterol free
- 5:01peanut butter because, you know, peanut butter
- 5:04was such a notorious source of cholesterol before.
- 5:07Meanwhile, eggs got the reputation of being worse than junk
- 5:10food. It was better in their minds to eat a Pop
- 5:13Tart for breakfast, but not an egg. Can you believe
- 5:16this nonsense? Finally, we get the great
- 5:18egg redemption. I'm not sure what Star wars
- 5:21theme we're on here, but let's Fast forward to 2015.
- 5:24After five decades of, uh, scaring
- 5:27people away from eggs, nutrition
- 5:30experts said, you know, that's
- 5:33just not right. That policy you guys made in
- 5:35the American Heart association, that wasn't right.
- 5:39Because we've known that dietary cholesterol does
- 5:41not significantly impact blood cholesterol levels except in a few
- 5:44people. And we know you can eat eggs without
- 5:47becoming a walking heart attack. Oh,
- 5:50and we've known this since 2 1/2
- 5:53decades before you made that spurious claim.
- 5:56And here is where it all gets really Crazy.
- 5:59When these policymakers actually finally got
- 6:02convinced by the research to look at the actual evidence,
- 6:05they found out that eggs weren't bad for you, they were
- 6:08actually great for you. It's a high quality
- 6:10protein. It contains choline for brain health.
- 6:14It has great nutrients for your eyes. Eggs are
- 6:16basically nature's multivitamin, except
- 6:19tastier and cheaper than things in
- 6:22the health food store. Well, that used to be
- 6:24cheaper. So the 2015
- 6:27Dietary Guidelines finally lifted the egg
- 6:30restriction. But let's be real, this should have happened
- 6:33decades earlier. Or to be even more exact, they
- 6:36should have never banned eggs in the first place. In
- 6:39fact, the United States was one of the last countries
- 6:42to drop its dietary cholesterol restrictions.
- 6:44Taking 47 years to reverse an idea
- 6:47that wasn't based on strong science in the first
- 6:50place. That's almost half the century
- 6:53of unnecessary egg guilt.
- 6:55Imagine how many sad eggless
- 6:58breakfasts that adds up to. The
- 7:00egg's new enemy now is a virus.
- 7:03Just when eggs were making their comeback,
- 7:06along comes the new generation of
- 7:09bird flu. Millions of hens had to be
- 7:12culled, destroyed, and suddenly eggs
- 7:15are more expensive than gasoline. At some stores, they're
- 7:17basically locked up like high end electronics.
- 7:20Meanwhile, oat milk soy based egg
- 7:23substitutes are cackling in the background, waiting for their
- 7:26moment to shine. I mean, I actually like oat milk and soy milk,
- 7:29but you know, but none of those replaces
- 7:32the egg. Scrambled, fried, poached, deviled, in
- 7:35a cake, in a quiche, doing it with flaxseed,
- 7:37whatever. But even if eggs are pricey now, they are
- 7:40still one of the most nutritious and versatile foods you can get. So
- 7:43yes, eggs are back. Of course, now they're a luxury
- 7:46item. I mean, eggs are expensive as caviar, which is
- 7:49basically a fish egg.
- 7:51Here's what we have learned today, which I hope you
- 7:53have. Public policy about
- 7:56food is not the same as science
- 7:59about food. Whole eggs are bad
- 8:02for you was just bad policy
- 8:05made by people making policy without
- 8:08any basis of evidence at all. But with
- 8:11this oh, we better be safe than sorry approach
- 8:14mixed with industry influence, eggs have always
- 8:17been nutritional powerhouses. And just when you're
- 8:20finally allowed to enjoy an egg guilt free, they
- 8:22are too expensive to eat. Life's kind of
- 8:25unfair like that. But don't let history or high
- 8:28prices scare you away. Eggs are still one of the
- 8:31better foods out there. They deserve a place on your plate. Meanwhile, if
- 8:34you want to learn more about food science
- 8:37without the nonsense, give me a subscription here to
- 8:40fork you. Because eating smart is always in
- 8:42style. Unlike that cholesterol free peanut butter
- 8:45fad. Let's make a couple of other things
- 8:48clear. When you hear food policy, please don't blame the
- 8:50scientists or the doctors. We didn't do that. We
- 8:53didn't tell you to eat trans fats. Honestly, we
- 8:56didn't. We've been going against that. But that's for
- 8:59another episode. This
- 9:02episode was written and researched by me, Dr. Terri
- 9:04Simpson. And while I am a doctor, I am not
- 9:07your doctor. And making any dietary changes, please see
- 9:10a western trained physician or registered
- 9:12dietitian. Do check out my blog
- 9:15post on YourDoctorsOrders.com
- 9:18and check out my new substack at Ah,
- 9:21Tsimpson substack,
- 9:23where I have for our, uh, subscribing members great ways that
- 9:26you can interact with me. I want to thank
- 9:29our friends at Simpler Media for the distribution and making
- 9:32me sound awesome. And especially my good
- 9:35friend, the pod God, Mr.
- 9:37Evotera. Have a good
- 9:40week, everyone. In fact, have an egg
- 9:42cellent.
- 9:48Hey, Ivo, here's the dirty little secret.
- 9:52I'm not a big fan of eggs. I mean, they're
- 9:54okay. They're like something I put on. Something
- 9:57like huevos rancheros. Wouldn't be anything without the
- 10:00huevos. But I prefer the rancheros. Most
- 10:03eggs are kind of bland to me. I like hot sauce on
- 10:06eggs. All right, how about you? Are you an egg
- 10:09fan?
- 10:13I'm, um, still not talking to you after that egg pun.