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  All right, what's up everyone? Welcome in to Inside the Hoosier
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  that he's got going on. But MM, do you smell it?
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  Do you smell what is in the air right now?
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  I could. Smell you.
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  It smells like football, buddy. That's what it smells like.
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  It smells like football in the air.
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  And of course with that, though, we we get to the all of the
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  stuff, all of the drama now that we're getting into training camp
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  pre season officially kicked off last week.
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  So we got a little bit to talk about as far as some of the news
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  updates. You know, what's Kansas City
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  going to look like this this year, especially since Justin
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  Fields is potentially going to be quarterback one for the
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  Kansas City Chiefs as it rolls in.
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  I know that's our boy. I know you're you and I both are
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  big fans of Justin Fields. We've got we've got a official
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  breaking news that Kyler Murray is officially quarterback one of
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  the Minnesota Vikings as JJ McCarthy.
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  Is he done in Minnesota? Could have told you that the
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  second they signed Kyler Murray, by the way.
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  But you, You and I were. You and I have both never been
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  high on JJ. We'll we'll get to that, though.
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  We'll get to that. Then, of course, we'll talk
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  about some of our NFL rookies that Mike and I think you should
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  keep an eye on. If we have time, we might do an
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  MVP, MVP predictor. And then, of course, the
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  question that every sports talk show, every sports debate shows
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  brought up this year, who's going to be the quarterback for
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  the Cleveland Browns? And it's funny because we had
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  this exact same topic last year because the exact same problem
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  was the same as it was last year.
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  We have this conversation every year.
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  We're being completely honored. Oh.
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  My God, it's so bad. It's like you, you guys fumble
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  Baker. But nonetheless.
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  Though is it like, and I don't want to turn this into a whole
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  different tangent, we can do that later, but like just to
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  like RIP the Band-Aid immediately.
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  Like is, is it the biggest historic fumble to sign a
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  quarterback to that contract and ever since inking that contract,
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  it is just been every year of asking who the starting
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  quarterback is, is everybody but Deshaun Watson.
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  And that to me, it it Tony, it has to go down as the worst
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  contract in mental history doesn't.
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  It it's got to be, it's got to be up there at least top five.
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  Yeah, top five. It's not top ten.
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  I agree. Because because honestly, I feel
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  like the Kitty gala day for the giants, he he's he's fighting
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  for that top tier spot fighting. For his life, Brother, I'm not
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  literally. But let's get into the first
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  part with our boy who you know, he, he's not fighting for his
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  life anymore. Hopefully he's living a good
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  life in JF1 and Justin Fields. Now, Mike, this is kind of
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  interesting because I've, I've heard a few different things and
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  somebody even brought up the theory.
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  Nick Wright, obviously he's a huge Kansas City Chiefs fan.
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  He loves Patrick Mahomes, all of them.
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  Greg, if you're watching this, I need your input.
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  And Mike, if you want to clip it into a TikTok for him and
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  tagging, let me know. The the theory is is he's
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  healing well on track that he's even potentially supposed to be
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  maybe even on the fast track to making it to being quarterback
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  one for week 1 Monday Night Football against the Denver
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  Broncos. But I think in the meantime, it
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  seems like Justin Fields is going to be, you know, taking
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  the reins more likely. He's probably going to get a
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  majority of the snaps in pre season if I had to bet, or maybe
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  the kid that was the homes back up after Gardner Minshew went
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  down. I don't remember his name.
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  It's like really out there. But nonetheless, though, what do
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  you think Kansas City's expectations are because they
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  signed Kenneth Walker? That's a good signing.
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  I I liked Kenneth Walker watch watch team at Michigan State
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  there for a year. He had an amazing season that
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  year, You know, great time with Seattle.
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  You know, obviously won the won the MVP for the Super Bowl, got
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  a Super Bowl ring with him. They let him go.
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  He's probably the best running back he's had since, believe it
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  or not, pre Kareem Hunt. Like the first time Kareem Hunt
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  was there, it was. Like 2017 too.
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  That's a long time. Right.
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  So, I mean, what, what do you think Kansas City's expectations
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  are for this year? The expectations is a
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  championship and I I think they do a great job of really
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  creating an environment and a structure to to withstand that
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  where it's like you, you still have the pillars on both sides
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  of the ball that are going to be the big names.
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  They're the big guys who have been there done that.
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  We had the Super Bowl MVP in 2025 and Kenneth Walker, who
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  I've seen a lot of negativity about Kenneth Walker over the
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  last couple days. I saw he's been in multiple
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  scuffles with the defense already kind of getting into it
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  at training camp and some people love that, some people hate
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  that. I don't know really where to put
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  it, but I will say from a canine record, from what we've seen
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  from him both in college and just overall in the NFLI, think
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  he's a pretty solid dude. I don't think he's shown you any
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  other reason to think otherwise. I think maybe he's just in a new
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  environment trying to make his place, you know, showing he's
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  that guy. You want to check that out and
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  look into it. But yeah, it's, it's really cool
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  to me to kind of see all that going on and everything that's
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  transpired so far. I, I, I do think with Patrick
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  Mahomes, the expectations is championship brother.
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  I I don't see why not. And do you think it gives him
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  probably the best opportunity now?
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  Because like I said, Nick Wright is a huge fan of them.
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  And he he kind of brought up a really good point that Kansas
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  City hasn't had 1000 yard rusher almost the entire time Mahomes
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  has been there. And he's still managed to win
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  even without that. But now that he's coming off of
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  injury, it was it's it's an injury that now is just so
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  common and guys are able to come back and they're still able to
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  have successful careers. It's not like it was, you know,
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  10, even 15 years ago. So it's better, you know, and
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  let's be honest, can, can you honestly, you know, tell me that
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  when you look at the the Chiefs wide receiver room that you
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  don't kind of have some question marks because, I mean, yeah,
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  Rasheed Rice, he had the incident.
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  He spent 30 days in jail. Now he's back and he can he keep
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  that attitude? Can he keep, you know, keep
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  himself out of trouble and doing something crazy?
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  I know Xavier Worthy is on there.
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  He looked really good at Texas. But he hasn't, it seems like he
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  hasn't really gotten a chance to shine.
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  And maybe that's just because the injury.
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  But I know one of the other big things that really hurt them
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  last year was the O line. The O line was really bad.
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  I mean, Mahomes was. We've always seen Mahomes
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  scramble and we've always seen him kind of have issues with his
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  O line. But it felt like last year that
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  was really their big Achilles heel.
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  And so do you think that with the addition of Kenneth Walker,
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  both as a running back and as a pass catcher, do you think that
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  elevates them to like a new position to where it's like, OK,
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  they're they're kind of like the warriors of old?
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  Like you can't count them out because there's just so much
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  experience. There's so much chemistry
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  together. It's like, man, if they get
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  there, they're going to be dangerous.
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  If they can, if they can just get close to the dance into the
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  playoffs, they're going to be dangerous, have to deal with.
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  I think that's that's like the perfect analogy is they are the
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  Warriors. You know, perhaps with Mahomes
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  is your Stephen Curry. At the end of the day, as long
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  as he's there, you have a chance.
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  And, you know, maybe other people feel differently.
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  We can have a different basketball conversation during
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  basketball season, but Andy Reid is way above Steve Kerr in that
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  way. So you still have a guy like
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  Andy. And that's why I, I do want to
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  pivot, not the conversation, but more so the goal.
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  You know, Kenneth Walker since 2022 has only had one year with
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  1000 plus yards. He had 1027 yards in 2025.
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  I'm going to go out there and I'm going to say Kenneth Walker
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  doesn't get 1000 yards this year.
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  And the reason he doesn't is because of a guy like Andy Reid
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  who's going to be able to utilize a guy like Justin Fields
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  in the backfield or as a Wildcat quarterback.
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  I believe Justin Fields is going to be able to be that guy in
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  moments when you don't want to put Patrick Mahomes in those
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  certain situations. You know, obviously he's coming
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  off ACL tear. He is your pride and joy.
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  He is going to be everything. He is poster boy #1 like you.
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  The train starts and goes with Patrick Mahomes.
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  Now you need guys to help you get there.
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  At the end of the day, some guys to help.
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  I like Justin Fields is going to be able to utilize all of the
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  momentum, all of the potential opportunity seen Andy Reid run
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  very early on in Patrick Mahomes's career.
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  So I'm really excited about, I will say this feel about any of
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  the wide receivers right now, I don't know how I feel about
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  Rice. I don't know how I feel about
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  Worthy and I think it all starts and finishes with Patrick
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  Mahomes and why I say that is Rice.
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  Obviously a lot of that's off the field.
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  On the field, I think he's a top five caliber wide receiver on
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  any given Sunday when he's on the field of healthy.
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  But a guy like Worthy, I think it's unfortunate to not have
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  Patrick Mahomes fully healthy during the offseason because he
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  is going into Year 2 if I'm not mistaken.
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  And it is a conversation where it's like you want him to get
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  those reps during the offseason with his QB one to continue to
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  build that. And the last guy.
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  And it's an unfortunate one because tone, I don't know how
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  we've talked about the the the Chiefs this long and not said
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  his name. Travis Kelsey, what version of
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  Travis Kelsey you're getting? I definitely think hinders or
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  elevates guys like Rice and worthy.
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  Now, if a guy like Travis Kelsey at this point in his career is
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  just a decoy. And we're really just looking at
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  the next chapter of his life with the podcast and obviously
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  the wedding of the year and all that other good stuff that's
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  going on in Travis Kelsey's life.
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  I am a Travis Kelsey fan. I am not going to sit here and
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  slander the man for living his life and getting that bag in
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  more ways than one because Marian Taylor is getting that
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  bag while also finding love. So it's 2 to one happy for him.
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  But like, what version of Travis are you getting?
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  Especially after a contract extension, which we don't have
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  to get into, but a lot of expectations with dollar signs
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  that he just inked next to his name.
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  So I don't know, Tony, it's like you said, they remind me of the
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  2022 Warriors where it's like the pieces are there.
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  I could say if everything clicks, everything clicks.
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  But you got to be able to count on the guys like Andrew Wiggins
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  and Jordan Poole to have kind of the career years, you know what
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  I mean? So you need the best from
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  everybody. All hands on deck for sure.
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  And at least come up, you know, come up clutch in the big
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  moments. I will say the the only thing
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  with Kelsey and and you can kind of give me your thoughts, it it
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  seems to me when guys get to that point where they focus on
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  more stuff off the field than they do on.
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  And and I think Kel and I think Kelsey would be even realistic
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  to admit this of it's like, hey, I got a whole lot more football,
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  you know, behind me than I do in front of me.
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  Like, like we know his time's coming to an end.
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  Like there was even that big consideration at the end of last
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  year. It's like, yeah, is this is this
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  going to be the time? And I know a lot of us were
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  like, we don't think he'll go out in that kind of note, like
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  if they if they lose at least on their way to a potential Super
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  Bowl or something, you know, something that effect or if they
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  lose in the playoffs, it's like, OK, we at least tried.
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  Is like, I just I just can't keep going anymore.
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  Now maybe he does try. Maybe he just tries until the
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  till the wheels fall off or they're like, look, buddy, we
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  got to cut you like you just you like we got to just take the
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  Band-Aid and accept the L But you know, we never know.
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  Here's the other thing that I read earlier too, to kind of
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  pivot back to Fields. Do you think this kind of
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  revives Fields career? Because you have to think about
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  it, This is the best situation Fields could be in.
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  He gets the true opportunity to sit and learn from one of the
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  best quarterbacks. A lot of people would argue he's
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  the GOAT. If you want to argue he's the
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  GOAT of the current time in the current NFL, you could
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  definitely say that. So he gets to sit back, he gets
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  to learn. He gets to learn from an
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  offensive mind like Andy Reid. Do you think if he does well
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  enough in what more than likely is going to be limited
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  capabilities that he does get, do you think this puts him on
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  the path to being a starting quarterback somewhere Again, I
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  don't know about a franchise guy, but maybe it's one of those
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  like, hey, we'll kick the Tigers on him for like 4 or five years.
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  Maybe kind of towards the end. We'll just see what we get now
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  that he, you know, has that chance to relearn and kind of be
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  a quarterback again. I think so.
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  I think so. And I think, you know, histories
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  past has told you that it's never too late for anybody.
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  Baker, Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Gino Smith, all guys that just
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  ain't 100 + 1,000,000 dollars after having pretty shitty
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  starts at starting quarterbacks in the league, you know?
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  And Gino is kind of like that, that poster boy for that.
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  And Baker as well, where actually Sam went really high as
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  well if I'm not mistaken. He was third overall.
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  He was third overall in the class with Baker.
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  Gino was one in his class if I'm not mistaken, right?
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  He was. He was the first round.
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  Yeah, the first. Round.
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  Maybe he was second round. He might have been second round.
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  Actually, OK, my bad. It's been a while since Gino was
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  a. Rookie I say he was.
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  He was drafted in like 2013 like 20/12/2013.
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  As a granted, I was probably taking the constitution test at
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  the same time, so I give me some grades if you guys are
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  listening. But yeah, these are these are
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  big dogs, you know what I mean? These are big name guys and a
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  guy. And my point to why I say Gino
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  is the poster boy for that is like you said, he was drafted in
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  the early 2010 and is now the starting quarterback of the Las
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  Vegas Raiders. So.
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  Starting quarterback in The Jets again, right back to The Jets.
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  Sorry guys, it's been a long I'm tired.
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  It's what the fuck? Alright, that's fine.
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  But yeah, whatever. So my my point is, is cooked
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  immediately. But you know, I, I think the
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  thing with fields is this, when you look at a guy like Sam
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  Darnold going to San Francisco and then going to Minnesota and
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  then obviously rejuvenating his career heading to Seattle, he
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  wins the Super Bowl. Baker Mayfield proves everybody
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  wrong. You know the dog days and
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  Carolina really trying to fight for a spot, even trying to play
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  out guys like PJ Walker and Cam Newton and so many others that
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  were Sam Darnold was also there. You know.
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  And then obviously you got you got a guy like Gino who you know
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  drafted in the early twenty 10's and you know he has been
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  fighting ever since and finally got that big time contract.
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  I think for me Justin Fields is in a perfect situation to sit
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  and learn. I love the video I saw of him
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  the other day. I think he saw it on my story
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  where him and Mahomes are walking the training camp and
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  kids were yelling for Patrick Mahomes and Patty keeps walking
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  and and Justin stops, he runs over, he signs everybody's
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  stuff. And you know, everyone in the
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  comments is like way to show Pat how to be a how to be a pro
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  Justin like that. But like, that's the stuff that
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  Justin doesn't have to worry about right now.
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  Justin doesn't, you know, Justin's locked in.
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  Justin's having fun. He's really the keyword.
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  There's having fun again. Justin Fields finding the love
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  for football, not that he ever lost it, but, you know, getting
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  sacked as much as he did in Pittsburgh and Chicago and and
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  in New York. I mean, it was just a train
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  wreck everywhere he went from Arthur Smith to Bill Laser and
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  Matt Nagy and Shane Waldron and all these other guys, or it
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  wasn't Shane Waldron. I forget who it was, but it was
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  it was somebody. And they just pissed me off more
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  times than not, man. It's like Fields deserved a
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  shot. I think Justin is going to stay
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  in Kansas City for a couple years and he is going to become
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  a starting quarterback somewhere down the line.
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  You have Andy Reid, you have Patrick Mahomes and you have all
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  the weapons in the world to really just make sure you're
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  having the best time possible. I I think it's going to be
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  really exciting, man. I do.
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  Well, Joy, just wanted to let you know that you're cute, Mike.
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  Thanks, Joy. Say Joy.
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  Joy is a sweetheart. We, we love Joy.
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  So yeah, man, I'm excited. I'm excited to see, you know,
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  what does Kansas City do with just with Justin Fields hopeful?
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  I hope he he makes a good comeback because I know you and
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  I have both been highlighting both from when he was at the
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  Bears. We were, we were on this show
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  when he got traded from the Bears on Saint Patrick's Day.
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  It was the craziest. I mean, dude, that was a it's,
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  it's always an interesting conversation.
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  Not to change it. I know we're limited on time,
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  but like to this day, I know two years later, three years later,
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  that that was the best thing that could have happened for the
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  Chicago Bears. I am a Caleb Williams believer
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  and you know that, but it still hurt to this day.
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  It was just one of those movies. It's like when the Bulls traded
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  Derrick Rose of the Knicks and you were just like, I know it
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  was what was best for the team to move forward.
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  But at the end of the day, like that's your fucking guy.
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  You know, when you believe in a guy, we all have that guy that
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  like Johnny Knox is another guy that I'm still like, obviously
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  the situation, but Johnny Knox is one of my favorite Bears of
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  all time and always will be in the numbers aren't going to show
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  that. But what Johnny Knox was when he
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  was a Chicago Bear, Oh my gosh, man, that was the best, the best
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  time of my life. Yeah, Joey, Mike has.
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  Mike has all the passion like Mike really brings, like he
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  brings the energy everywhere he goes.
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  I try, I have anxiety 90% of my day but the times I'm doing this
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  I have a fun time. I hope so, buddy.
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  I know I do. But Speaking of guys that we
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  think you know that their their time in the spot where they've
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  been drafted might be over the ESPN announced it earlier that.
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  That Kyle, that that JJ McCarthy has been demoted to quarterback
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  2 and that Kyle that Kyler Murray is now quarterback one
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  there in Minnesota. And I know, I know our boy
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  Randy. Randy, if you're watching we,
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  you're not sold on Kyler, but Mike and I have never been sold
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  on JJ. And I remember a few years ago
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  when we were talking about it, we were talking about right
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  before JJ got drafted and whatnot, you were like, you're
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  like, man, tell me about this JJ McCarthy of like, dude, he's
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  not, he's not it like they and of course everybody's hyping him
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  up and everybody's like, oh, he's like 27 and one in college.
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  He only ever lost one game to that, that Cinderella TCU team.
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  And I'm like, that should be kind of an indicator.
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  Like they ended up getting destroyed by Georgia.
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  You told me you were the guy that said watch the games, watch
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  the games and tell me what you think.
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  I texted you after the national championship and I said that man
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  threw 10 passes. And you said, Yep, national
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  champion though. And I said, yeah, 100% just got
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  drafted in the first round for that reason.
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  But I made the video the second they drafted him and I said
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  Minnesota and and I'm I don't want to turn into a different
• 21:18
  thing. Like I said, I'm trying to be
• 21:19
  good on time today. No, no, you're good, buddy.
• 21:21
  You're good. Take your time.
• 21:22
  Tony didn't let me on the show for four months because he said
• 21:24
  I had to learn how to shut the fuck up.
• 21:27
  That's not. True.
• 21:29
  No, bro, I was so afraid of the Minnesota Vikings and still am.
• 21:34
  I know Randy's not sold on Kyler.
• 21:38
  I don't need you to be sold on Kyler.
• 21:39
  I need you to be sold on Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson and
• 21:43
  TJ Hawkinson. And I don't know who the hell is
• 21:45
  in that backfield anymore, but. I think Aaron Jones still is.
• 21:49
  Actually, I have no idea. Old Man Jones is still doing his
• 21:52
  thing. He's still.
• 21:53
  Rocking up. I I, I just know you give him a
• 21:57
  semi. I mean, look how good they were
• 21:59
  with Sam Darnold, like, you know what I mean?
• 22:01
  And that's not Sam Darnold and Tyler Murray.
• 22:03
  Are we really going to say that that's like it's the gap this or
• 22:06
  is the gap this? I would say it's closer to this
• 22:09
  than it is to that because it's not that far off.
• 22:11
  And, and I know that's very disrespectful to a quarterback
• 22:14
  that just won the Super Bowl, but like, that's where I'm at
• 22:17
  with that. But I, yeah, man, JJ is fucking
• 22:19
  dog shit. And it makes me feel so fucking.
• 22:22
  You're going to fucking call him nine.
• 22:24
  You know how sick I was Week 1 when this kid went ape shit
• 22:28
  against the Chicago Bears? He just went absolutely fucking
• 22:31
  bananas. It pissed me off to my core.
• 22:34
  And it's because I knew, I knew the guy wasn't good.
• 22:38
  I was like, Oh my God, he just had his best game.
• 22:40
  That's his career game. It's going to be it's the Bears
• 22:43
  and the Bears still suck. And that's what everybody's to
• 22:46
  say. But guess what?
• 22:47
  End of the day, you saw what you needed to see and that's all I'm
• 22:51
  going to say. But it was it was you want.
• 22:56
  To know what's funny too. And I don't know why I remember
• 22:59
  it and maybe it's just because I'm a I'm a super petty asshole
• 23:03
  like I really am. I remember this dude in the
• 23:06
  comments on when when you and I, I don't know if it was like when
• 23:10
  he got drafted. I don't know if it was like the
• 23:12
  beginning of the season. I think last year, I remember
• 23:15
  this Vikings fan commented on one of the videos on TikTok and
• 23:19
  was like, these guys just hate JJ.
• 23:21
  Like I can't wait for him to just come out and be an absolute
• 23:24
  stud. The NFL.
• 23:25
  It's like, I am 1000% that guy. I don't care if it's two, three
• 23:30
  years later. I will 100% respond to that
• 23:32
  comment. Be like so how'd how'd that
• 23:35
  comment turn out for you there, brother?
• 23:37
  Like. And, and I will say this like, I
• 23:40
  love that you're saying that, but in the same breath, I will
• 23:44
  say this, I won't say it's officially the end 9.
• 23:49
  I think when you're sitting holding the clipboard watching
• 23:53
  Kyler Murray be a pro and then you have a guy like Kevin I, I,
• 23:57
  I definitely, it's, it's kind of very similar to that Justin
• 24:01
  Fields treatment where it's like, I know it's nowhere near
• 24:05
  Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes level, but you're, you know,
• 24:09
  what Kevin O'Connell has been able to do is insanely
• 24:11
  impressive. And then obviously you got a guy
• 24:15
  like Kyler Murray who's just been there.
• 24:17
  He understands what it is to be a high draft pick and obviously
• 24:21
  get moved out and and it's kind of like any given Sunday man.
• 24:24
  He's he's a perfect indication of like, look, this is how you
• 24:27
  can lose your job. But also for Kyler Murray, he
• 24:30
  can show this is how you get a new job.
• 24:32
  You know what I mean? Like, not not only am IA guy
• 24:35
  who's lost my spot, but I'm a guy.
• 24:37
  And by the way, lost it to Jacoby, not even like Beck.
• 24:42
  Beck is going to do Beck things. I believe you lost that job to
• 24:46
  Kobe Brusett at this moment in time, but.
• 24:49
  Well, and so, so here's the thing, because I, I have two
• 24:52
  questions that kind of go with that.
• 24:54
  So I, I do agree, I don't think it's the end of J JS career.
• 24:58
  I think if Sam Darnold taught us anything, if you happen to go to
• 25:02
  the right spot in the right situation and everything just
• 25:06
  clicks, anything is possible. But but here's the the thing I
• 25:10
  want to bring up though. You look at where Sam started
• 25:15
  and look at where Sam is now. He was drafted to The Jets
• 25:18
  dumpster fire, then he got traded to the Panthers dumpster
• 25:22
  fire. Goes to the 49ers, gets to
• 25:25
  learn, you know, from Kyle Shanahan.
• 25:28
  Obviously he backed up Brock Purdy, kind of filled in a
• 25:32
  couple times there, didn't really do anything crazy, but
• 25:35
  was just there, like you said, sitting on the sideline layering
• 25:37
  clipboard. Then goes to Minnesota and JJ
• 25:41
  supposed to be the kid, you know, and then Sam gets his
• 25:44
  opportunity and kind of the same thing that Kyler is walking into
• 25:48
  now. He's never had a setup like
• 25:50
  Minnesota. He's never had a Justin
• 25:52
  Jefferson. He's never had a Jordan Madison
• 25:54
  ATJ Hawkinson, if I'm going to say just because I don't know
• 25:57
  off top my head and Aaron Jones, the backfield and above average
• 26:01
  offensive line and an above average defense all
• 26:04
  complimentary with a really good off on some minded head coach.
• 26:08
  And Sam Darnold absolutely goes off, you know, gets the gets the
• 26:12
  contract to go to Seattle and obviously wins the Super Bowl
• 26:15
  this past season. So it's not impossible.
• 26:18
  What does it say for JJ, though, Because you you came in to a
• 26:24
  really good situation and it it wasn't like you necessarily had
• 26:29
  to be the guy right off the bat. Obviously he gets hurt.
• 26:32
  There's nothing really he can do about that.
• 26:34
  You know, guys get hurt all the time, but you had a whole entire
• 26:37
  year to just sit, study, learn. Obviously last year he was able
• 26:42
  to play in some games. It was kind of his quote, UN
• 26:44
  quote rookie year last year because he finally got to play.
• 26:47
  But what does that say though, now that you've been in the
• 26:50
  system for going on three years and, you know, not to nothing
• 26:55
  against Kyler Murray, but Kyler did pretty good with a whole lot
• 27:00
  less in Arizona. Like he got Larry Fitzgerald
• 27:02
  towards the end of his career. He wasn't ever really able to
• 27:05
  pair up with Marvin Harrison Junior much just because of, you
• 27:08
  know, his own personal injuries and conflicts and whatnot with
• 27:11
  the Cardinals. So it's not like he's had a
• 27:13
  whole lot of help. But man, if you're JJ, like you
• 27:17
  have one of the quote UN quote quarterback whisperers and
• 27:21
  offensive geniuses and you're once again being put on the
• 27:25
  bench for it. For a guy that either he's
• 27:29
  either he's just physically outplaying you as an athlete,
• 27:32
  which there's not really a whole lot you can do about that, or
• 27:36
  mentally he's just not making the same mistakes that you are.
• 27:39
  And I get it. You're a young quarterback that
• 27:41
  you have to grow into it. You've got to learn.
• 27:44
  But man, it's like when you when you look at some of the guys
• 27:47
  that are considered offensive geniuses, you know, Kevin
• 27:50
  O'Connell, Sean McVeigh, Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan, like when
• 27:54
  you screw that up, does that not hurt you to go really anywhere
• 27:59
  else? Because it's like, man, if you
• 28:00
  can't do it in their system And again with the same weapons,
• 28:05
  like what are we doing? I I hear you and I'm looking
• 28:10
  down. I feel so bad.
• 28:11
  I hate looking down when we're on a show.
• 28:13
  But I'm like my my keyboard is like jacked.
• 28:16
  If I click the letter J it just spams the letter J.
• 28:18
  So I'm trying to figure that out.
• 28:20
  So I'm using my phone just to look up stats and.
• 28:22
  Is that for JJ? Like it's just stuck on.
• 28:27
  JJ And I'm just like, all right, bro.
• 28:29
  But yeah, I mean, looking up J JS numbers and looking at what
• 28:32
  he's been able to do, I believe it's 11 touchdowns, 12
• 28:34
  interceptions in 2025 and then a little over 1100 yards.
• 28:38
  That's unacceptable when you have Justin Jefferson at the
• 28:40
  helm. And Justin Jefferson's a guy
• 28:42
  kind of like the Randy Moss treatment where it's like at
• 28:44
  some point and if not already, you've outgrown Minnesota and it
• 28:49
  will turn into him playing for maybe not the New England
• 28:52
  Patriots, which that would be very full circle if you did end
• 28:55
  up playing for the Pats. Full irony.
• 28:57
  Yep, full irony in it. And it's there.
• 28:59
  Or a guy like the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 29:01
  Hey, here's Rice. Take Rice in Minnesota.
• 29:04
  We'll give you a couple. First, give us Justin Jefferson.
• 29:06
  That's boom. Patch Mahomes.
• 29:08
  Justin Jefferson, Kenneth Walker, The future is bright
• 29:10
  again, You know what I mean? But that's how quick things can
• 29:13
  turn. Or even San Francisco, like
• 29:15
  figure it out in San Francisco. We don't have to do an episode
• 29:19
  about Brandon Iuke. I don't think we have to, but.
• 29:22
  I think you're like, you want to know what I would love to see
• 29:24
  though I I'd love to and I don't think it would happen.
• 29:27
  Although knowing them, they might just to completely burn it
• 29:31
  and then be absolute dog water for the next probably like 8
• 29:35
  years. And just imagine Justin
• 29:38
  Jefferson, Joe Burr, and Jamar Chase all together once again
• 29:44
  just like 2019 LSU. Like I mean Can you imagine the
• 29:48
  terror on NFL defenses if you had those three dudes?
• 29:52
  Like that offensive line would probably just be a wet paper
• 29:55
  bag, but man, if Joe can get the ball out to him, it's over.
• 29:58
  See, that's the thing though. That's and that's the thing.
• 30:01
  The unfortunate part in that is I'm a Joe Burrow believer and
• 30:06
  you know that and you know this, I love Joe Bird, but it's it's
• 30:11
  hard enough when you have a backup quarterback in for Joe
• 30:14
  Burrow because he gets injured again and you have an upset
• 30:17
  Jamar Chase. Now you're going to have it
• 30:20
  upset Jamar Chase and then upset Justin Jefferson and no money to
• 30:24
  play with and no leveraging conversations because everyone
• 30:28
  in the league is going to know you can't afford to keep them
• 30:31
  all. I will say this, that is a
• 30:35
  Madden wet dream. If you can find a way to keep T
• 30:37
  Higgins too, I don't care who your running back is, it could
• 30:41
  be Tony. I think you'd have.
• 30:43
  I think you'd have to give up T. Like I feel like that'd be the
• 30:46
  only halfway comp of just getting something back besides
• 30:50
  picks if. It was if this was a 7 on 7 type
• 30:55
  of league, Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson every
• 30:58
  day that ends with Y. But definitely don't see it for
• 31:02
  the future. It's interesting though man, I
• 31:04
  love it. I think and like you said, not
• 31:06
  to get off topic, but like excuse me, with the JJ McCarthy
• 31:10
  stuff, would you say right now JJ McCarthy is closer to Drake
• 31:17
  May or closer to Trey Lance? Honestly, I would say Trey
• 31:23
  Lance, and I say that because, and here's what's bad, I can't
• 31:29
  even really say he's close to Trey Lance because Trey only had
• 31:32
  one, I believe one starting season at North Dakota State.
• 31:37
  Yeah. COVID season.
• 31:40
  He and there and there wasn't a lot of film on it.
• 31:43
  Like there it was just, it was just a hey, there's raw talent.
• 31:47
  Like he's a big body. He's athletic.
• 31:50
  You know what it was too though, right?
• 31:51
  Like, you know, the lore, you ever look, this is just this is
• 31:55
  Mike allegedly, I have no idea, but Colin Coward was like the
• 32:00
  biggest Trey Lance supporter and all the rumors were that.
• 32:04
  He was dating his daughter wasn't.
• 32:06
  That's what. That's right.
• 32:08
  Trey and his daughter were either dating or friends or
• 32:10
  whatever the case. Was dating.
• 32:12
  And something like that. And like it really, like Colin
• 32:15
  really promoted them. And I'm not saying Colin did
• 32:18
  that like by any. I think he just liked him as a
• 32:20
  talent. He liked him as a person.
• 32:22
  And Colin believed in him. And other analysts kept pumping
• 32:24
  him out saying he was going to be the next big thing and fuck
• 32:28
  that. They knew what they were doing.
• 32:30
  You and I talk about it every year.
• 32:32
  There's always two guys that the whole league is just like, these
• 32:35
  are the guys and they're fucking dog shit.
• 32:37
  And JJ was one of those guys. Michael Pennix, no disrespect,
• 32:40
  Michael Pennix was that other guy who they all said this is
• 32:44
  the guy and he's not. And everyone knows he's not
• 32:47
  because either it's frame or his injury history or whatever the
• 32:50
  case is. He's showing you he's not.
• 32:52
  I know he's not. We all know.
• 32:54
  I don't know if you feel the same way.
• 32:55
  I know he's not. That going to be the when we
• 32:57
  talk about greats, I'm talking about great.
• 33:01
  He's not in that conversation. For me.
• 33:03
  I still have Jaden Daniels in that conversation.
• 33:05
  I believe the injuries are the injuries.
• 33:08
  But when he's healthy, he's healthy.
• 33:09
  But a guy like Michael, even when he's healthy, he's not
• 33:11
  going to outplay Josh Allen or or Caleb Williams.
• 33:14
  Oh, and that feels Oh. Does that feel good to say?
• 33:18
  Buddy, say that again, motherfucker, You know what I'm
• 33:21
  saying? I've been waiting 26 years to
• 33:23
  say some shit like that baby only guy tell you my piss
• 33:26
  conversation really quick. By all means.
• 33:28
  I took a piss with Jay Cutler in a couple weeks ago.
• 33:31
  Man. I'm in the bathroom with the
• 33:33
  National, the Rosemont Center. It was the greatest weekend
• 33:36
  working for iHeartRadio. Had a blast.
• 33:38
  It was a blessing. Want to say thankful to all the
• 33:40
  guys that made that happen. There I am.
• 33:42
  I walked in. Boom, big Poppy walking out
• 33:46
  smell the colognes all mixing together, probably thousands of
• 33:49
  dollars worth of colognes. That bathroom smells beautiful.
• 33:52
  It was crazy. My nose hair fell out.
• 33:54
  I go that's crazy. And I go, I think I go to the
• 33:57
  farthest urinal. I always go to the farthest one.
• 33:59
  No one else is there. I don't want to be the first
• 34:01
  guy. So, so smoking jaywalks in.
• 34:05
  I see him with his cups, hat go cups and tallest guy, tallest
• 34:09
  guy I've ever seen in my life. You know, so cool.
• 34:11
  Like like I'm 58, you know, I'm not the biggest guy, but like
• 34:14
  this guy walks in. I'm like, this is like literally
• 34:16
  you're telling me that I would have to sack this guy if I was
• 34:20
  an opposing defensive player? Like obviously that's a
• 34:22
  different those guys are giant as well.
• 34:25
  Like man, he was a giant bro and he walked in, use the journal
• 34:29
  right next to me and I was just like, Oh my God, it's smoking J.
• 34:34
  So he he and I are the same height, but he's got about he
• 34:39
  got about 41 lbs of weight. On and that's, and let's be
• 34:42
  honest here, that's that's probably NFL weight what he is
• 34:47
  now as a as a drinker and a hunter and all this shit he's
• 34:50
  doing as a retired man. I'd add about another 20 to
• 34:54
  that, but maybe 30. As I say, but I mean, you can't
• 34:59
  you can't beat Jay though, because Jay, I think if Jay was
• 35:02
  would have been allowed to, I definitely think Jay would be
• 35:04
  smoking a cigarette on the on the sideline.
• 35:06
  No, he's in game. Did you see, I hate getting off
• 35:10
  topic, but did you see Aaron Rodgers playing on the other
• 35:12
  side of the ball the other day? He was playing defense.
• 35:15
  If you looked at him, Oh, it's pretty cool.
• 35:17
  He was just bringing a pass rusher for a few minutes.
• 35:19
  And to see him do that at that age I'm at, I'm at this weird
• 35:21
  stage in my life. I'm at this weird stage where I
• 35:25
  I respect Aaron Rodgers and I respect LeBron James, but a 12
• 35:29
  year old me would be sick to his stomach to hear me utter words
• 35:32
  like that. But they're not.
• 35:34
  They're not our rivals anymore, man.
• 35:36
  I mean, it's, it's over. Like you could just enjoy the
• 35:39
  show now. I ain't gonna lie.
• 35:40
  I had the biggest and you know, for as long as you know me, I
• 35:44
  was one of the biggest Karen Rodgers haters for like the
• 35:47
  longest time. The man post like the Pat McAfee
• 35:50
  just meltdown where he's like, I'm coming for everybody.
• 35:54
  I'm burning every bridge I could find.
• 35:56
  If you if you smarted off about me, if you made a segment about
• 36:00
  me at all, He's basically like, here's the here's the double
• 36:04
  bird. Suck it.
• 36:05
  I was right. Like all this was like, OK, like
• 36:10
  kind of the same way. It's like, man, if you had told
• 36:12
  me 10 years ago, like, man, you're gonna, you're gonna
• 36:14
  probably like Aaron Rodgers a little bit.
• 36:16
  Like, no, there ain't no way. No way.
• 36:19
  And now I'm here like damn it. Yeah, it was like, it reminded
• 36:23
  me so much of like when Caleb Williams on around the NFL
• 36:27
  draft, they asked Caleb Williams who his favorite quarterback was
• 36:30
  and he said it was Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady.
• 36:32
  But he said Aaron Rodgers first. That's who he molds his game off
• 36:35
  of. A lot of people hated that.
• 36:36
  I loved it from day one. I think a lot of people will sit
• 36:39
  here today and tell you they will fuck Aaron Rodgers and fuck
• 36:42
  Green Bay and all that's true. I wore my the Packers Packers
• 36:46
  fans Party with Diddy T-shirt yesterday, the Six Flags and I
• 36:49
  got so many, so many supporters at Six Flags for that.
• 36:54
  It was so awesome. Oh, dude, I had one guy that was
• 36:56
  a Packers fan like and he's like buckled in.
• 36:58
  It was he goes. I'm not I did not I go.
• 37:01
  I heard you called him Sean, and then he was.
• 37:03
  Like no. And he?
• 37:05
  Pulled off and I was like, see you, but no, dude, it's it's
• 37:09
  cool to see like us as we age, kind of like damn, like we was
• 37:13
  really hating for years, but if we didn't have no skin in the
• 37:15
  race, we wouldn't have. Came yeah, if he wouldn't have
• 37:18
  been a pack, honestly, two things.
• 37:19
  If he wouldn't have been a Green Bay Packer at the time, if he
• 37:22
  wouldn't have killed the Dallas Cowboys when I was a fan of them
• 37:25
  every single flipping second and he got a chance to.
• 37:29
  And then if it's like, man, if you just weren't such a douche
• 37:31
  bag, like every time I turn around, like I need help, they
• 37:34
  quit asking them for more money. No, I need more money, brother.
• 37:37
  Quit asking them for more money so they could sign people with
• 37:39
  free agency, douchebag. But anyway.
• 37:43
  But Speaking of because since we were since we're reminiscing
• 37:46
  about when we were younger, our youth and dudes that have been
• 37:50
  in the league a long time now coming to the end.
• 37:52
  We've now come to that point to where there's new blood coming
• 37:56
  into the NFL. There's new rookies and we've
• 37:58
  only seen one pre season game so far.
• 38:01
  And honestly, I think the two names that probably stood out
• 38:04
  the most from that was both Carson Beck and Haynes King with
• 38:08
  shout out to Haynes King. I I watched him a lot when he
• 38:11
  was at Georgia Tech and was a pretty big fan of his.
• 38:14
  And I'll tell anybody who, if you're just now seeing Haynes
• 38:19
  King from the preseason game, go back and watch his Georgia Tech
• 38:25
  highlights because that's how he played every single game when he
• 38:29
  was in college. He played exactly like how he
• 38:32
  played the preseason. But Mike buddy, what are do you
• 38:34
  have 1 rookie? Do you have a few rookies who
• 38:37
  who is on your NFL rookie watch list?
• 38:40
  I think I have a few. I think we'll kind of spread
• 38:43
  that out through obviously training camp and spring, not
• 38:46
  spring training. Pardon me, pre season.
• 38:49
  I'll give you one. I'll drop a nugget today and we
• 38:53
  can keep going as you know, as we see more games and kind of
• 38:55
  more film on guys. But I'm going to say it early.
• 38:58
  Carnell Tate has the opportunity to win Rookie of the Year and
• 39:02
  I'm extremely excited about it. There's a guy I'm very firm is
• 39:05
  going to be one of the top rookie wide receivers in this
• 39:08
  class. I'm a huge Cam Ward guy and it's
• 39:11
  crazy to say that because a year ago when I came on this show, I
• 39:14
  said I was not a huge Cam Ward guy.
• 39:17
  I didn't believe in the film. I didn't believe in the the the
• 39:21
  numbers because I felt like they were a little inflated.
• 39:23
  And there were also times where I just felt like you watch some
• 39:26
  of the film and you're like, this guy holds on to the ball
• 39:28
  too long, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
• 39:31
  I'm really excited about him. I'm really excited to see him
• 39:34
  really get a number one option. Why receiver?
• 39:37
  It's it's going to be really exciting to see Cam Ward.
• 39:39
  I think the more I watch him, the more I see he is a pro's pro
• 39:45
  and and it really is exciting to see Tennessee kind of get some
• 39:48
  love. I know Randy will never root for
• 39:50
  the Tennessee Titans. He's a Colts fan through and
• 39:52
  through. But it is cool to see Tennessee
• 39:54
  football really show up and show out.
• 39:56
  I know I saw a lot of Cam Ward jerseys at the National, which
• 39:59
  was really cool. Yeah.
• 40:01
  So I'm, I'm really, really optimistic on Cam Ward right
• 40:04
  now. And I think Carmel Tate's going
• 40:05
  to give him that opportunity to really flourish at the big
• 40:08
  league level. So yeah, I think, you know, Cam
• 40:11
  has success, Carmel will have success, and I think it's going
• 40:13
  to be cool. So I'm gonna be honest, I'm
• 40:16
  gonna, I'm gonna say 2 names, but one of them I'm gonna say
• 40:20
  something might be a little bit controversial, but I'm gonna,
• 40:22
  I'm gonna say it anyway. It's gonna be my, it's gonna be
• 40:24
  my hot take because we're gonna put it so the first one, not the
• 40:29
  hot take yet. And I know it's just pre season
• 40:32
  everything super vanilla. There's all everybody's just
• 40:35
  fighting for a roster spot. Like basically all these dudes
• 40:38
  have already played each other in college or if they haven't,
• 40:41
  basically on collegiate level with some old dudes sprinkled in
• 40:44
  there here and there. I'm going to be honest, I think
• 40:48
  Carson Beck starts by at least Week 5 of this NFL seat.
• 40:53
  I don't think that's bad at all. Like I think that is a realistic
• 40:57
  possibility and again, we'll we'll have to see throughout the
• 41:00
  pre season how does he look? You know what, not I think going
• 41:04
  from Georgia to Miami and now here and basically he's had to
• 41:08
  be the guy because percent has been in the contract
• 41:10
  negotiations to Arizona. They finally got that.
• 41:12
  And obviously Jacoby kind of has some injury history.
• 41:15
  And don't get me wrong, I like Jacoby.
• 41:18
  He's not a starter like he is a great backup.
• 41:21
  He is absolutely great backup. He's absolutely dude. 100 team.
• 41:24
  He's a, he's a, he's a pro. He knows how to play the game.
• 41:26
  He can exactly 4 quarters, but that's about it.
• 41:29
  And and if if your star quarterback is going to be out
• 41:32
  for like a short time, you need him to just keep you around 500
• 41:35
  and like 4 games, he can do that.
• 41:36
  He can absolutely do that. But long term, no, I'm not not
• 41:41
  trusting my hot take though. And again, because I watched him
• 41:45
  in college, a watch team against the Cardinals, if he goes into
• 41:53
  the right situation and is truly fostered to grow, I think Haines
• 42:01
  King could have a Josh Allen type of career.
• 42:05
  And I know you're like, what? Here's why I say it.
• 42:10
  OK, So just just bear with me, right?
• 42:13
  Hear me out. Go back to Josh Allen's rookie
• 42:17
  here. Terrible.
• 42:19
  Terrible dude was not a pass like Duke could not throw the
• 42:23
  ball he was running it his perce.
• 42:25
  His percent percentage completion was trash.
• 42:29
  Turnover God. Like it was.
• 42:32
  Bad. Right, but then look at Haynes
• 42:36
  King like again, if if you don't know him, go look at his go look
• 42:40
  at his college tape like he's not throwing 300 three 5400 on
• 42:45
  you. He he is not lighting you up
• 42:47
  surgically as far as you know what he's doing in the air.
• 42:51
  But with the ground game, with his legs, he's getting you 70
• 42:55
  plus yards a game easily. I don't even want to cut you
• 43:01
  off. I want you to keep going because
• 43:02
  I think this is going to be an amazing take if it launches one
• 43:05
  day. But that comes with
• 43:09
  conversations. Absolutely.
• 43:11
  Uncomfortable, not for me conversations.
• 43:17
  And the biggest one there is a man of the name Bryce Young, and
• 43:22
  what they traded to acquire Bryce Young versus also on top
• 43:27
  of that, making the playoffs last year again, finished 8:00
• 43:30
  and 9:00. We're not going to sit here and
• 43:31
  act like it was the craziest season.
• 43:32
  It was a tiebreaker, whatever. However they could, they
• 43:34
  crumble, they crumble. But he did play pretty well
• 43:38
  after a really rough start to the season.
• 43:40
  They even got benched, yeah. Even got benched at one point
• 43:43
  and and what I would ask is how far into the future because
• 43:51
  we're talking like rookies this year and the impact they're
• 43:53
  making. Be on the lookout.
• 43:54
  How far into the future are you even seeing this kid get an
• 43:57
  opportunity? Because I believe in what you're
• 43:59
  saying. I believe in you believing in
• 44:01
  this kid. But in order for him to get a
• 44:04
  shot bearing injury, price young, especially after making a
• 44:10
  playoff berth, would have to be historically dog shit to lose
• 44:16
  his position. Truly.
• 44:19
  See, I'm going to pull up their schedule real quick.
• 44:21
  Here's the thing. I don't know if it will happen
• 44:24
  this season, but like you said, I think it would have to be a
• 44:27
  culmination of either really bad injuries or it would have to be
• 44:33
  Bryce just plays absolutely terrible.
• 44:35
  So we'll we'll go real quick through the Panthers schedule.
• 44:38
  We don't have to, you know, dive super deep into it.
• 44:41
  They do not have an easy schedule.
• 44:43
  OK. They host the Bears September
• 44:46
  13th. Then they travel to Atlanta,
• 44:49
  that's a toss up. They go to Cleveland, probably
• 44:53
  going to be a dub, could be a toss up.
• 44:55
  They host the Lions, not easy. Then they go to Philly too.
• 45:00
  That's probably going to be AL. They host Tampa Bay, toss up
• 45:04
  because it's divisional. Then they go to Green Bay in
• 45:07
  late October, that's a toss up. They host the Broncos who
• 45:12
  basically brought back everybody that was on that defense and by
• 45:15
  then Bonex should not only be back, but it more than likely
• 45:19
  you'll probably be rolling, especially the fact that they
• 45:22
  have Jalen Waddle and Cortland Sutton there as well as some
• 45:26
  other weapons. Then they go to New Orleans.
• 45:29
  That's potentially a toss up. They host Lamar Jackson and the
• 45:33
  Ravens. Then they they go to Tampa.
• 45:36
  Then they go to the Vikings, which, who knows, maybe Kyler
• 45:40
  and them are rolling by that. Could, could, could be a
• 45:42
  division winner there, in my honest opinion that that's a
• 45:45
  conversation. They they then host the Saints,
• 45:48
  then they host Sensei. And again, depending on is if
• 45:52
  Sensei is maybe rolling or if they're kind of fighting for
• 45:55
  their playoff lives to get in like this could be a dogfight as
• 45:59
  far as Sensei wanting to keep their playoff hopes.
• 46:01
  Then they go to Pittsburgh and then they host the Super Bowl
• 46:05
  champ Seattle Seahawks, who I think they'll probably take a
• 46:09
  bit of a step back, but I don't think they're going to be
• 46:11
  scrubbed by no stretch of the imagination.
• 46:14
  And then they end. Then they finish the year
• 46:16
  hosting the Falcons again. So I mean, they do not have an
• 46:20
  easy schedule by any stretch of the imagination.
• 46:24
  So I mean, if I'm sitting here looking at it's like, man, I by
• 46:30
  what it it might be a very short sample size, but what week nine,
• 46:36
  week 10, maybe if they're potentially mathematically
• 46:40
  eliminated or real close to it, it's like, yeah, let's see what
• 46:43
  we got in the kid. What round did they draft him?
• 46:47
  That's. A great question.
• 46:51
  I'm sorry, buddy. I didn't mean to put you out.
• 46:53
  I do think there's validity to that.
• 46:55
  Like if it's third, fourth round, like we'll see.
• 46:57
  Oh, he was an undrafted free agent.
• 46:58
  So I mean, we, we've seen dudes have, you know, pretty good
• 47:02
  year. And to give you an idea of what
• 47:04
  his career was, Haynes King's career.
• 47:08
  So he had three years at Texas A&M.
• 47:12
  He only started. He started two games for him in
• 47:14
  twenty 21300 yards, 2 touchdowns, 3 picks. 2022 he
• 47:21
  went one and four had 1200 yards, 7 T DS, 6 picks, but 83
• 47:28
  rush yards a touchdown down Georgia Tech is where he really
• 47:30
  blew up. So Georgia Tech 2800 yards, his
• 47:35
  first season. 27 touchdowns, 16 picks, 10 rushing touchdowns,
• 47:40
  700 yards on the ground next year, seven and four, 2100
• 47:46
  yards, 14 touchdowns, 2 interceptions, about 600 yards
• 47:50
  on the ground and 11 rushing touchdowns.
• 47:52
  And then last year they went eight and four.
• 47:55
  Just under 3000 passing yards, 14 touchdowns, 6 picks, just
• 48:00
  under 1000 rushing yards and 15 rushing touchdowns in his
• 48:04
  career. George check.
• 48:04
  So again, I'm not going to sit here and say that he he's going
• 48:08
  to be as good as Josh Allen, but looking at how he plays ball,
• 48:13
  what he does and how he just tries to continue to extend and
• 48:17
  make plays again, it would have to be in the right situation.
• 48:21
  I think if he stays in Carolina with how it is, I think they're
• 48:25
  doing better as far as how they're building it up.
• 48:27
  Obviously they have McMillan that they drafted from Arizona
• 48:30
  last year. They got Rico Dowdle, I believe
• 48:34
  still at running back who is who isn't bad and they've got a
• 48:36
  rotation there. Their defense is really solid.
• 48:40
  And then they have the kids they drafted out of Tennessee that
• 48:42
  I'm kind of high on. But I think he's, I think he's
• 48:44
  injured and might potentially be out.
• 48:47
  I think if they build the right pieces and get the right and get
• 48:51
  the right personnel in there, he could potentially have that Josh
• 48:56
  Allen type of height. Now, again, I don't know if
• 48:57
  he'll ever get there, but as far as how they play, the style that
• 49:02
  they play, that's who He reminds me of you.
• 49:04
  Got you. Got me believing man.
• 49:06
  Oh. I sold you Audi.
• 49:07
  Well, hey, I mean, I ain't gonna lie.
• 49:09
  He sold me out a lot of shit when I talk about.
• 49:12
  Yeah, I've. Done that shit for sure.
• 49:15
  But I am, I am a connoisseur and believing in random guys, you
• 49:19
  know, So I'll check out. Well, I'm going to check out
• 49:21
  right now Haynes King rookie card and we'll see what's up if
• 49:26
  I if I'm interested. And hey, I have sold you on some
• 49:30
  I've been right about because I was right on JJ.
• 49:32
  I was right on JJ the whole time.
• 49:36
  But we'll, we'll move on though. So we'll move on.
• 49:40
  Do you want to talk about potential MVPS or do you want to
• 49:43
  talk about the Browns quarterback room?
• 49:46
  I would honestly. God, you want my honest opinion?
• 49:50
  Yeah, absolutely. I think we've talked a lot of
• 49:52
  shit quarterbacks today and I think we should end on a
• 49:55
  positive note when we call them all winners.
• 49:57
  It's fair and honestly, and it's one of those, if I think he had
• 50:02
  a realistic shot of starting, I would say Taylor Green would
• 50:04
  also be on my rookie watch list. But that poor man, he's, he's
• 50:07
  going to be buried on Deaf Turner.
• 50:10
  I know we're going to end up on a clip edit one day when Malika
• 50:12
  Lemon wins Rookie of the Year. For sure.
• 50:14
  They're going to be like, these guys don't know what they're
• 50:16
  talking about. I'm gonna be like, yeah, all
• 50:18
  right. Brother, he's the one that got
• 50:20
  attracted by Philly. Yeah, sit the fuck down.
• 50:24
  He ain't getting sit the fuck down.
• 50:26
  Fuck Philly, fuck Philly. And that means Jayla Hurst had
• 50:29
  to throw the ball anyway. And by the way, throw the ball
• 50:35
  to Lemon, not Monica Smith or Saquon Barkley or Coddard or all
• 50:39
  the other millions of weapons. You know what I mean?
• 50:42
  If A.J. Brown wasn't getting the fucking
• 50:44
  ball, brother, what makes you think you're getting the fucking
• 50:47
  ball? That's all I'm saying.
• 50:49
  I'm A.J. Brown.
• 50:50
  Believer. Hey, they got all those weapons,
• 50:52
  and you know what those weapons are designed to do?
• 50:54
  Push a full grown man's ass into the end zone.
• 50:56
  That's what he's trying to do. Go grab some.
• 51:00
  Go grab some buns. Brother go grab full cheek
• 51:02
  double cheeked up. Don't let go neither.
• 51:06
  But anyway, Speaking of yeah, because I he ain't going to be
• 51:10
  included my MVB predictor, but my buddy, who do you have
• 51:14
  potentially win in the NFLMVP? Because honestly, I feel like
• 51:17
  this year that that that conversation is wide open Now.
• 51:21
  I know a lot of people might have it just like gifted to Matt
• 51:24
  Stafford. Like I'm just saying, look man,
• 51:28
  fuck. That.
• 51:30
  Hey, I'm just, I guarantee people have already like since
• 51:33
  Aaron Donald's back in practice pads, I guarantee they've all
• 51:36
  but handed Matt Stafford that trophy.
• 51:38
  Check out that video on inside the Hoosier mind TikTok if you
• 51:41
  haven't seen it already. It's it's a little
• 51:43
  underwhelming, I'm not going to lie.
• 51:44
  The guy that went after him obliterated that sled.
• 51:47
  And Aaron was just kind of like, you know what I mean?
• 51:50
  I get it. He's warming into it.
• 51:52
  He's he, it's been, wow, he's been hanging out with his
• 51:53
  daughter and you know, whatever the fuck Aaron Donald does in
• 51:57
  the office, You want my truth? Absolutely.
• 52:01
  Aaron Donald, Miles Garrett and the Los Angeles Rams are putting
• 52:07
  together one of the greatest super teams to stop one man.
• 52:12
  Kayla Williams. I see Ice Man Ray, I'm telling
• 52:16
  you, I'm telling you right now, Caleb Williams is my MVP without
• 52:20
  a question. And I have not in my entire life
• 52:24
  as a Bears fan, in over 25 years, I've ever had a
• 52:28
  conversation about a Bears quarterback winning MVP,
• 52:31
  conversations about other players.
• 52:33
  Just I mean, Brian Urlock, what he was able to do, never won an
• 52:35
  MVP, but like one of the best defensive players plug in on any
• 52:39
  team. There's so many great talents
• 52:42
  that we've seen over the years. I have never seen a city, a
• 52:46
  league, and overall just a bunch of people buy in to one person.
• 52:55
  I was downtown in Fulton Market the other day and I saw the
• 52:59
  Iceman sculpture, which was amazing.
• 53:01
  And I'm going to clip this and put the artist in the
• 53:03
  description below. Check it out.
• 53:06
  I have never seen a mural made of a Chicago Bears quarterback
• 53:10
  who has played ever in my life. And it was the coolest thing in
• 53:15
  the fucking world. Tom, I'm going to tell you
• 53:17
  something. I'm going to give you a little
• 53:18
  story. I haven't said it before.
• 53:19
  I think Caleb Williams wins MVP, and it's not just because of his
• 53:23
  talent, but Colson loved ones. I was with Rob Gronkowski at the
• 53:27
  National the other week and I got to ask him one question.
• 53:30
  I said, Rob, one, can I get a picture with you?
• 53:33
  Obviously, of course. And then two, I was like, do you
• 53:36
  think Colson Loveland is legit? Do you think he's the truth?
• 53:40
  And Rob laughed a little. Because obviously you're talking
• 53:43
  to one of the greatest tight ends of all time and this kids
• 53:45
  going into year 2. But he said he's he's solid.
• 53:48
  He's. Legit.
• 53:50
  And, and to hear that from Rob Gronkowski, which is the coolest
• 53:54
  thing in the world, you know what I mean?
• 53:55
  Like he's, he's fucking solid. And I was like, I started
• 53:59
  laughing like Rob, we're both laughing because I'm like, oh,
• 54:01
  that's like so sick to hear that.
• 54:04
  Colson Loveland and Caleb Williams are going to be the
• 54:06
  next Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey.
• 54:07
  I truly do believe that. You have Luther Bird and the
• 54:10
  third, you still have Roma Doonese.
• 54:12
  You have DeAndre Swift and Kyle Manandai, which I'm really
• 54:15
  excited about. Ozzy Chiprillo potentially
• 54:18
  coming back for one of those tackle spots.
• 54:20
  You still got Joe Toomey and everybody else.
• 54:22
  I'm excited for what's going to happen now.
• 54:25
  There's a lot of factors that play a role into that, how many
• 54:27
  games you win and obviously the season you put together.
• 54:30
  Caleb Williams finished his second year as a Chicago Bear
• 54:33
  with the most passing yards in a single season by any Chicago
• 54:36
  Bear. Didn't hit 4000, hit 3900 and
• 54:39
  something pretty much there. Yeah, pretty much there,
• 54:43
  especially when his receivers had over 15 drops on the year.
• 54:47
  But I think for me, Caleb Williams is going to win the MVP
• 54:52
  and he's going to bring the Bears into this Michael Jordan,
• 54:56
  Chicago Bulls style conversations where the Bears
• 55:00
  are going to become a household name in the NFL again, not just
• 55:04
  Walter Payton, Gale Sears, Dick Buckets and Papa House.
• 55:08
  We're going to be talking about guys from the 21st fucking
• 55:11
  century for the first time in a long time.
• 55:13
  And I, and I can't wait, man. I I think this is the year.
• 55:17
  They say, and a lot of offensive guys, because you're going to
• 55:19
  think the two biggest offensive guys that is usually talked
• 55:21
  about is Gale Sayers and Walter Payton.
• 55:25
  Like that's it. That's the that's the two big
• 55:27
  dudes. I mean, even even as me and you
• 55:29
  as well, you know, you're in Indianapolis.
• 55:31
  You grew up watching the Bears. It's like, yeah, yeah.
• 55:34
  Matt Forte, Devin Hester. Sure, sure, Johnny.
• 55:37
  Knox. Brandon Marshall.
• 55:39
  Sure. Brandon Marshall.
• 55:41
  But. Technically, Al Sean Jeffrey
• 55:43
  there for for a few years now before he really like kicked it
• 55:45
  off, but. Same thing we said the other a
• 55:48
  few segments ago. Fuck Philly and fuck out Sean.
• 55:50
  I don't like the way he acted when he won a ring.
• 55:53
  That's fair. But yeah, no, he said fuck
• 55:55
  Chicago to diamonds. I was after he said that, I was
• 55:57
  like, I have a Jeffrey jersey. That broke my heart.
• 56:01
  Join, join, miss. I'm not going to lie, I'm
• 56:03
  mystery. I missed the old school
• 56:04
  quarterback like. And I know this is kind of
• 56:07
  getting off on a tangent. I haven't really given my MVP
• 56:09
  predictor, but a dude who deserved to win MVP at some
• 56:12
  point and never did. Bull crap, by the way, dude.
• 56:15
  Like when Philip Rivers came back, even though like it was
• 56:18
  Philip Rivers, like it was Phil, like he's trash talking.
• 56:21
  I know we all enjoy Phil trash talking, but it's like meant to
• 56:25
  watch him come to the line. He's like, hey, he's doing this,
• 56:27
  he's doing this, He's doing that.
• 56:29
  Like you don't see that get broke down anymore by
• 56:33
  quarterbacks. And I don't know if it's maybe
• 56:35
  they're just doing it mentally and maybe they're giving other
• 56:38
  signs to other guys or it's just like, yeah, kind of things.
• 56:44
  Another one that I loved and it's like it's timeless to me is
• 56:48
  Cam Newton and Clay Matthews. Everyone.
• 56:50
  Cam Newton. Oh, yeah.
• 56:51
  It's. A real real.
• 56:52
  It's a real real. Oh yeah.
• 56:53
  Watch. This yeah, straight to the crib
• 56:56
  too, like Cam. That's why Cam will always go
• 56:58
  down to my favorite quarterback ever.
• 56:59
  But like you don't really see the NFL have those miked up
• 57:03
  conversations anymore or like really just see guys breaking
• 57:05
  down the defense and live time. And maybe it's because they have
• 57:08
  like different indicators to kind of show that.
• 57:10
  But I love do talking shit, man. Do talking shit is the best part
• 57:13
  of the. Game, I'm not going to lie, I
• 57:15
  don't know if you've seen it, but I think one of the funniest
• 57:17
  interviews. I also watched not just the the
• 57:19
  Clay Matthews and the Cam Newton, but Luke Keakley and
• 57:24
  Thomas Davis and they were salt and pepper.
• 57:26
  And he's like, oh, salt beans are going to the left.
• 57:29
  But they went to but they went to you, Tom.
• 57:31
  He's like, no, bro, like salt is you because you're white.
• 57:35
  It's like, oh, OK, I got you. So Congrats to Luke, though,
• 57:40
  because he got in the Hall of Fame and same with your breeze.
• 57:44
  But and, and we get to see Tony Romo getting arrested for a
• 57:48
  potential DUI and he's currently on on leave as JJ Watts going to
• 57:54
  take over as. Hey, watch that video though, he
• 57:56
  might get away with that. He might I say it was kind of a
• 58:00
  it was kind of weird. You know, she she would talk
• 58:02
  loud and then she'd go like real soft so he couldn't hear her
• 58:05
  again. And I know personally, like I
• 58:07
  kind of had the same issue. It's like you got to keep
• 58:09
  talking loud. Like, I don't want you to yell
• 58:11
  at me, but I mean, that's what you got to do so I can hear you.
• 58:13
  That's what you got to do. And the same thing he's like,
• 58:16
  look, I'm trying to make sure I don't get myself in trouble.
• 58:18
  I'm not trying to incriminate myself, like right, Like I, I
• 58:22
  get it. So that'll be interesting to see
• 58:24
  how that one pans out. But as far as my NFLMVB
• 58:28
  predictor, funny enough, I, I also have Caleb.
• 58:32
  Now here's the only thing. Here's the only thing I'm
• 58:36
  worried about, though. Only thing I'm worried about,
• 58:39
  right? I think last year the Bears had
• 58:44
  the benefit of nobody. What did people expect Caleb to
• 58:49
  do now that he had a good head coach, an offensive mind and all
• 58:55
  of these weapons to really work with?
• 58:57
  You know, he had DJ Moore, he had a, you know, Roma Dunze, he
• 59:01
  had a rookie Luther Burden. He had Colston, Loveland and
• 59:04
  Commet and then of course, Swift in the backfield and then a a
• 59:07
  defense that the names and the expectations were all there, but
• 59:12
  they kind of failed to meet. So I think everybody was like,
• 59:14
  what are we going to get from Chicago?
• 59:16
  They have the potential, but is this kid going to meet it now?
• 59:21
  What kind of worries me is because they set that standard.
• 59:26
  That's what people are going to expect from the Bears now.
• 59:28
  So I wonder if people won't play the Bears harder.
• 59:33
  And I'm not saying that people don't get their full effort in
• 59:35
  games anyway, because. I mean, and it is the top three
• 59:37
  hardest schedule in the league right now.
• 59:39
  Right. And, and looking at their
• 59:40
  schedule, I was like, yeah, that's a that's a little rough.
• 59:44
  I mean the Eagles, I mean, you ain't got to worry about The
• 59:46
  Jets, but you got the Eagles. Like you got the Patriots, you
• 59:49
  got the the Seahawks, of course, you got everybody in the
• 59:53
  division as far as the Lions, Packers and the.
• 59:57
  And I, I will. I before we leave.
• 59:58
  I, I my bad. I didn't even cut you off.
• 1:00:00
  No, no, you're good buddy. And you got the bills
• 1:00:02
  unfortunately, too. Yeah, that was the one I was
• 1:00:04
  going to say where it's like we're just facing a tough
• 1:00:06
  division and just to give you a little mic at training camp for
• 1:00:10
  inside the future mine before we leave.
• 1:00:12
  So we got Kobe Bryant, which was our biggest free agency
• 1:00:16
  acquisition. It was chef's kiss, big safety.
• 1:00:20
  We moved on from Jaquan Brisker and and Kevin Buyer.
• 1:00:24
  He went, he had a knee injury the other day and a one-on-one
• 1:00:27
  with Cole Comet and it went from 8 to 10 weeks to four to six
• 1:00:31
  months. He's going to be out.
• 1:00:32
  So that's our number one safety. Kyler Gordon's injured, Luther
• 1:00:36
  Burden's going to miss the entirety of training camp and
• 1:00:40
  pre season with a groin injury. You also have Tyrese Stevenson,
• 1:00:44
  Braxton Jones, Kyle Monungai, Montez Sweat and a couple
• 1:00:47
  others. Audie Chapelo, who they're
• 1:00:50
  saying he wasn't even going to play this season because he tore
• 1:00:52
  A tendon that rarely ever gets torn at the end of the Packers
• 1:00:55
  Bears game in the playoffs, said he might miss the entire year.
• 1:00:58
  Now they're saying he's playing Week 1.
• 1:01:00
  Don't know what's going on. My point in saying all that, and
• 1:01:02
  yes, exactly it was, I am in a glass case of emotions right
• 1:01:06
  now. The Bears went from losing Kobe
• 1:01:08
  Bryant for the season to potentially getting Ozzie
• 1:01:10
  Chappello back by Week 1. Luther Burden's coming back, but
• 1:01:14
  he's banged up. So many questions.
• 1:01:17
  Tony, I want to ask you a question before we get out of
• 1:01:19
  here and before whoever runs this network kicks us off.
• 1:01:25
  DJ Moore won back-to-back Packers games for the Bears,
• 1:01:30
  came up in the biggest moment, Won multiple games for the
• 1:01:33
  Bears, came up clutch when it mattered most.
• 1:01:35
  A lot of people gave him some shit for that last drive against
• 1:01:38
  the Rams. I don't.
• 1:01:39
  DJ is the man. I will never hate DJ Moore.
• 1:01:42
  But I ask you this, who is the guy Caleb goes to in those
• 1:01:47
  situations and who is the guy that you would rely on to be
• 1:01:51
  him? Is it Luther Burden or Rome in
• 1:01:54
  the wide receiver corps? Or do you think this team kind
• 1:01:57
  of becomes a close and Loveland LED offense for Caleb Willy
• 1:02:03
  because DJ was the guy. DJ was the guy in the clutch
• 1:02:06
  moment that always came up. I think, I think honestly, until
• 1:02:11
  somebody separates themselves, I would say it has to be Rome only
• 1:02:17
  because like, and don't get me wrong, like what I do.
• 1:02:20
  I do agree that I think Loveland could be the guy that's, you
• 1:02:23
  know, the Travis Kelsey, the Gronk of like the big catch
• 1:02:26
  insurance, the big just rumbling body.
• 1:02:28
  The problem is is you know, him just being a big dude and and
• 1:02:31
  you can even look at this from Kelsey and Gronk both.
• 1:02:34
  They didn't really have a whole lot of speed.
• 1:02:36
  Usually, you know, with it now they they can run.
• 1:02:38
  I'm not going to sit here and say, you know, they're like
• 1:02:39
  they're slow pokes by no stretch, but but they're not the
• 1:02:42
  speedster. Like when you think about like,
• 1:02:45
  Hey, we're down. I got to get like a 40 yard
• 1:02:48
  chunk play and maybe something more as far as like magic
• 1:02:53
  happens like what DJ used to do with them.
• 1:02:56
  Like you, it's got to go to a wide receiver and I think right
• 1:02:59
  now with Rome coming into what is a year 2 now or year 3 like
• 1:03:05
  like that, that this is your time, man.
• 1:03:08
  It's like you, you've got to learn from DJ for the last
• 1:03:10
  couple of years. You got to learn from Keenan
• 1:03:12
  Allen, even if it was just for a year, you got to learn from him.
• 1:03:16
  It's like, all right, man, you're the you're the veteran
• 1:03:18
  dude in the locker room. Like you got to be the leader.
• 1:03:20
  You got to step up. Like if that to me is who I
• 1:03:24
  would say it has to be now. I do think it it, it is a
• 1:03:27
  potential like I think Loveland could be that guy, like you
• 1:03:30
  said, if if we think that he's going to potentially be that
• 1:03:33
  Kelsey or Crock for Caleb as far as that security and safety
• 1:03:37
  blanket. And we've seen a lot of, you
• 1:03:38
  know, quarterbacks have those tight ends that they they just
• 1:03:41
  fall in love with. You know, Romo had Jason Witten
• 1:03:43
  for yeah, many, many years. Donovan McNabb had Britt
• 1:03:46
  Selleck, Greg. Olson.
• 1:03:48
  Cam I mean Greg Olson and Cam I know Jay didn't get to enjoy
• 1:03:52
  Greg Olson unfortunately for his longer as much still baffles me
• 1:03:56
  to this day from like 2000. I still, I still question like
• 1:03:59
  was that Jay or was that I don't know what caused that?
• 1:04:02
  It's interesting, man. Like that's the question is, did
• 1:04:04
  Jay care? Because if I'm Jay, I would have
• 1:04:07
  been like, what? You know, But I, I agree with
• 1:04:09
  you. I I will say you made a great
• 1:04:11
  point last year and it was the beginning of the season and you
• 1:04:13
  used to play fantasy football. You know, you know, Roma Dunsday
• 1:04:17
  was one of the top players in the first half of last year
• 1:04:21
  prior to having that foot stress fracture that kind of turned
• 1:04:23
  into the new normal for him. I think Rome really can have a
• 1:04:26
  great year and I think if he can figure out his new normal and
• 1:04:29
  still be the big body that he is.
• 1:04:31
  Like you say, like you've had DJ Moore, Keenan Allen and a bunch
• 1:04:34
  of other great dudes alongside you and Caleb Williams throwing
• 1:04:37
  you the ball going into year three.
• 1:04:39
  I have high expectations for Roma Dunsday.
• 1:04:41
  But I also will say in that same breath, I think Colson Loveland
• 1:04:44
  is about to have a historic season from a tight end
• 1:04:46
  perspective. When we talk about Thailand
• 1:04:48
  University and the guys who are going to be the focal point of
• 1:04:52
  that, I think Colson Loveland is going to be one of the most
• 1:04:54
  unguardable players in all football.
• 1:04:56
  I think he's going to be a cheat code.
• 1:04:57
  I think in Madden I'm going to be running tight and attack the
• 1:05:01
  entire fucking game and I dare you to double team Loveland
• 1:05:06
  because I got Rome or or or or Bergeron or whoever.
• 1:05:10
  Johnny Walker, I got them running a post immediately
• 1:05:14
  following that, so I'm excited. So here's my other question, and
• 1:05:18
  I think Joy will appreciate this a lot because Joy, Joy is a
• 1:05:21
  Saints fan as well as she's a Go Tigers fan.
• 1:05:23
  She's a Tigers fan because she lives down in there in
• 1:05:26
  Louisiana. Do you think Loveland has a
• 1:05:31
  Jimmy Graham type of career? Because you talk about a dude
• 1:05:34
  with speed who was a big, I mean, obviously Jimmy Graham was
• 1:05:38
  a basketball player. So like he, he's just a monster
• 1:05:41
  of a dude just constantly. But I mean, he's kind of another
• 1:05:44
  one of those that I feel like because he was in the era of
• 1:05:48
  Kelsey and Gronk and whatnot, like he kind of gets forgotten
• 1:05:52
  about. Like do you think he kind of has
• 1:05:53
  like the Jimmy Graham thing to him too?
• 1:05:56
  Because Jimmy Graham was kind of under the radar.
• 1:05:57
  And I feel like what also hurt Jimmy, and I mean, also a former
• 1:06:01
  Bears tight end, actually not I think about it like he was great
• 1:06:05
  when he had when he was with the Saints, when he went to the
• 1:06:08
  Seattle Packers, no offense, but the Bears, like he, he just
• 1:06:14
  wasn't there. But man, when he was with Drew
• 1:06:16
  Brees, Ah, buddy, picture beauty.
• 1:06:20
  I love it. I, I'm going to not, I'm not
• 1:06:23
  going to duck this question, but I'm going to be truthful to this
• 1:06:26
  question. I think Colson Loveland's going
• 1:06:29
  to be the first Colson Loveland. I really do.
• 1:06:31
  I think Colson's in his own category right now.
• 1:06:34
  And the sky really is the limit. And of course, you can get away
• 1:06:38
  with saying these things after beating the Packers in the
• 1:06:41
  playoffs, after winning the division in your rookie year.
• 1:06:44
  It's all going to come down to year 2 for Coles and Loveland.
• 1:06:47
  You know what you're made of when guys have tape on you.
• 1:06:49
  And you are now likely going to be the number one option #1
• 1:06:53
  target for Caleb Williams. We're going to see what he's
• 1:06:55
  made of. I think he's a phenomenal
• 1:06:56
  blocker. I think he's an amazing route
• 1:06:58
  runner. I think he's got the shimmy
• 1:07:01
  shake that we've all been waiting for from a tight end
• 1:07:03
  because a guy like Cole Comet had cinder block feet at times.
• 1:07:07
  I'm really excited. But if I had to give a comp, I
• 1:07:10
  think Colson Loveland is in George Kittle category where
• 1:07:14
  it's like an absolute monster willing to run through a brick
• 1:07:17
  wall. Who's your favorite edge rusher?
• 1:07:19
  Who's your favorite nose tackle? All right, take his knees.
• 1:07:22
  You know what I mean? And then, oh, you got one of the
• 1:07:25
  best safeties on them. That's cool.
• 1:07:26
  One handed catch. He's awesome.
• 1:07:28
  It doesn't matter. Colson Loveland is that dude.
• 1:07:31
  He's got the swag, he's got the charisma, He's got that shit to
• 1:07:34
  him that you just don't see from a lot of tight ends in this
• 1:07:38
  league, at least nowadays. I feel like lately, I mean, the,
• 1:07:41
  the tight end classes over the last four or five years haven't
• 1:07:44
  been the greatest, but the last two years the, the, the Brock
• 1:07:48
  Bowers of the world, the Tyler Warrens, the Colson loved ones
• 1:07:51
  of the world, the tight end position is coming back.
• 1:07:53
  These aren't just guys who can catch the ball like these are
• 1:07:56
  guys who are truly making some noise.
• 1:07:58
  I know that's long winded, but man, Colson Loveland, I love
• 1:08:03
  you, baby. I say if it won for the fact
• 1:08:07
  that it's more than likely a quarterback award, would you put
• 1:08:10
  him in conversation for MVP? Fuck yeah, I would.
• 1:08:13
  Colson Loveland winning an MVP in his second year?
• 1:08:15
  Fuck yeah, I would. I don't if it was possible.
• 1:08:19
  If, like you said, if this wasn't a quarterback award.
• 1:08:21
  Fuck yeah. Everyone's talking about Matthew
• 1:08:23
  Stafford. Let me tell you.
• 1:08:24
  Let me crystal ball right here. What is today, the 11th of
• 1:08:30
  August? I'm telling you right now,
• 1:08:32
  Matthew Stafford is going to get slap Dick down to the IL.
• 1:08:36
  He is gone IR. Sorry, I'm still on baseball
• 1:08:39
  mode. He's going to be on that IR and
• 1:08:41
  you're going to have guys like Puka, guys like Adams fighting
• 1:08:46
  for 50 yard games, fighting for 50.
• 1:08:50
  I'm telling you right now, who's there?
• 1:08:51
  Back up the kid. George Tyson, Alabama.
• 1:08:56
  You're right. Yeah, No, who's what the fuck?
• 1:08:58
  Happened. Oh, Stetson did it.
• 1:08:59
  That's right. Stetson did it.
• 1:09:00
  I forgot about the did it. I'm not going to lie.
• 1:09:03
  Yeah, Ty and Ty's an interesting you want to talk about rookies
• 1:09:07
  that will be on the lookout for. That's a conversation I don't
• 1:09:10
  think. And I hear you.
• 1:09:11
  I hear you. I hear you.
• 1:09:12
  I hear you. I hear you.
• 1:09:13
  I'm not saying he's good. I'm just saying, I think when we
• 1:09:16
  talk about King or or Simpsons starting, I I would say the
• 1:09:24
  likelihood of Matthew Stafford getting injured at some point
• 1:09:27
  during the season is more likely than Bryce Young just completely
• 1:09:32
  becoming the worst quarterback to ever touch grass.
• 1:09:35
  But you know what the irony is behind that, though?
• 1:09:37
  What is that? Bryce Young, Alabama
• 1:09:39
  quarterback. Tie Simpson, Alabama
• 1:09:41
  quarterback. Hey.
• 1:09:42
  Man, we we know how that is. Ass but anyway.
• 1:09:47
  But no, I mean, I, I, I could definitely, I could definitely
• 1:09:50
  see it and it, and it does kind of suck that it is primarily a
• 1:09:53
  quarterback award because like what the last non quarterback to
• 1:09:57
  win MVP was a, was Adrian Peterson like all the way back
• 1:10:00
  in 2012. So I mean, it's been 14 years
• 1:10:03
  since literally anybody other than a quarterback has won it.
• 1:10:08
  But I, I do wonder man. And, and real quick, because
• 1:10:11
  this is kind of a tangent and this is where I actually wanted
• 1:10:13
  to go with this, with this question.
• 1:10:15
  Then my had a brain fart and I know we've talked about it, but
• 1:10:19
  again, just to bring it up for shits and giggles when we were
• 1:10:21
  talking about JJ and I told you it was like, hey man, just
• 1:10:24
  watch, watch the film on him. Like I don't trust him.
• 1:10:27
  And it's like, Oh well he didn't have to run.
• 1:10:29
  Like he was just he didn't have to throw.
• 1:10:31
  He's just a game manager. Like he had Donovan Edwards and
• 1:10:33
  he had Blake Corum has his 2 running backs.
• 1:10:38
  Like he had the 2 best running backs in the league.
• 1:10:39
  Like he didn't have to throw. Like, you know, you can make
• 1:10:43
  that same argument that the mailman Sesson Bennett got
• 1:10:47
  carried by two defenses to two national titles back-to-back,
• 1:10:52
  and guess where they drafted this man sixth round?
• 1:10:56
  This next round. So what are we fucking talking
• 1:10:59
  about? That's what fucking pisses me
• 1:11:01
  off. Stance embedded back-to-back.
• 1:11:04
  Fucking national championships back to fucking back.
• 1:11:08
  Yes, he did have absolute fucking monsters on that
• 1:11:13
  defense, but he held his weight. Watch college football, man.
• 1:11:17
  I'm tired of guys who wait around late March to April to
• 1:11:22
  start watching all these YouTube highlights of college football.
• 1:11:26
  You got me into the game. Jim Croft, Randy Jowers, Tony
• 1:11:29
  Hollingsworth. These guys got me into college
• 1:11:32
  football and baseball. I watch religiously now.
• 1:11:36
  You watch JJ McCarthy. He's Dick even in the
• 1:11:40
  championship games. 10 fucking or the 10 completions or 10
• 1:11:45
  passes total? I think 10 passes total or.
• 1:11:48
  In the championship game with Jim Harbaugh as the fucking head
• 1:11:54
  coach, he said spam HB dive the entire fucking game.
• 1:12:01
  It was like, remember the Titans where he said we're going to
• 1:12:03
  play all night, we're going to run the ball and they did and
• 1:12:11
  they won. Shout out to him.
• 1:12:13
  And they also may or may not have cheated, but that's a
• 1:12:15
  different topic topic. But the the point I'm making is
• 1:12:19
  simply Bennett goes day four and this kid goes top 10.
• 1:12:27
  You tell me why. Why?
• 1:12:29
  Because he went to fucking Michigan and Jim Harbaugh is
• 1:12:32
  making calls. And you know, Jim Harbaugh is
• 1:12:35
  making calls saying, hey, draft this kid, draft this kid.
• 1:12:38
  It's just it's not the same when you go to Georgia.
• 1:12:40
  Also, you know how I feel about the Georgia logo.
• 1:12:43
  Too close to Green Bay. Not a fan.
• 1:12:45
  That's who they mirrored it off of, actually.
• 1:12:46
  They actually asked Green Bay if they could have the copyright.
• 1:12:50
  They just had to change the colors.
• 1:12:52
  But yeah, man, also, I don't have an announcement yet, but I
• 1:12:58
  want this to be known. Shot kid Mike Hughes, a lot of
• 1:13:05
  pain in my heart saying this. In the next couple weeks, I will
• 1:13:12
  be making a decision of my allegiance of college football
• 1:13:17
  and where I will be heading. Tony V is out of the Tennessee
• 1:13:22
  Volunteers and football ain't getting no better.
• 1:13:27
  So I've been hanging out around with Tony and Jim Croft a lot
• 1:13:30
  lately. Just know there might be a
• 1:13:34
  change of the guard, but we'll we'll keep you posted.
• 1:13:36
  So you don't, obviously you ain't got to give this in, but
• 1:13:39
  what you're saying is LSU, the Tigers is in consideration.
• 1:13:43
  It's there's there's top three, there's three teams.
• 1:13:46
  OK. Do you like the list right now
• 1:13:48
  where I'm committed to? Absolutely.
• 1:13:50
  I just, I just want to hear. I won't judge, but I'll, I want
• 1:13:53
  to hear because you know me, I love college football.
• 1:13:55
  I'm obsessed of. Course.
• 1:13:58
  OK, so #1 obviously you're looking at a Tennessee with all
• 1:14:03
  peoples Might stay put, might not go anywhere.
• 1:14:06
  That's fair, that's fair, but potential's still there.
• 1:14:09
  And I mean, Josh Hykel, he always has great offensive
• 1:14:12
  potential's there. That's that's fair.
• 1:14:14
  And. They be bad money, That's the
• 1:14:15
  only question. They have they they split with
• 1:14:18
  them so far. Yeah, and then I got LSU.
• 1:14:21
  OK, Otagas. Otagas.
• 1:14:23
  Boomer Sooners. The Oklahoma Sooners.
• 1:14:27
  My sister lives in Oklahoma, she married a guy named Jake.
• 1:14:30
  Amazing individual and he is a huge Boomer Sooner fan.
• 1:14:35
  So yeah, I'm rocking with I'm rocking with one of the three.
• 1:14:39
  I will let you know next time I'm on the show.
• 1:14:42
  This is funny. You know what you're doing.
• 1:14:44
  You stay with the SEC even though you live in Big 10
• 1:14:47
  country buddy. Well, let me tell you something
• 1:14:49
  about just like the state of Illinois, Big 10, it fucking
• 1:14:53
  sucks. It's terrible.
• 1:14:56
  Ain't nothing good about it. And it it look, but I just live
• 1:15:00
  in Illinois. You just live in Indianapolis.
• 1:15:02
  Today I was awoken I'm I work at a school for people listening.
• 1:15:05
  I don't normally wake up at 10:00 AM, but I was awoken at
• 1:15:08
  10:00 AM because my phone was exploding because there was a
• 1:15:11
  tornado warning. I'm in the city of Chicago.
• 1:15:15
  There wasn't A and if you're watching this, I live and I'm
• 1:15:18
  still in the basement. So was no tornado and I and my
• 1:15:22
  taxes still suck. And the potholes are more scary
• 1:15:25
  than the tornado warnings. That's.
• 1:15:29
  As somebody who lives in Indiana, yeah, our our state
• 1:15:31
  flower is the traffic cone that helps block the potholes that
• 1:15:35
  they're. Huge.
• 1:15:36
  To they're monsters. I love Indianapolis though.
• 1:15:39
  When I went back and I can't wait to meet you when I go back
• 1:15:41
  up there. Man, I went to fuck.
• 1:15:44
  I forget the name of the stadium I think.
• 1:15:46
  It's Victory Field, is what they.
• 1:15:47
  Call it victory. Yeah, the Pittsburgh Pirates
• 1:15:49
  stadium for AAA affiliate. I was seeing Connor Griffin and
• 1:15:52
  I got to see the Colts facility right across the street.
• 1:15:56
  What a cool like boom, boom, boom.
• 1:15:58
  And it's like, that's such a cool thing for them to both
• 1:16:00
  still both be so close by. Yeah, they're, they're very
• 1:16:03
  central. I like, I will say the city does
• 1:16:05
  really well about centralizing everything.
• 1:16:08
  Everything's within like walking distance of each other like.
• 1:16:11
  The roads. The roads scared me, though.
• 1:16:13
  I'm not going to lie. It was like downtown Chicago.
• 1:16:15
  Have you ever drove that down? It's a mix but like for the most
• 1:16:20
  part it's two way traffic. So this in Indianapolis from the
• 1:16:24
  where I was at least it was just one fucking road.
• 1:16:27
  And I'm like trying to find out like yo is incoming traffic
• 1:16:31
  coming and there's like 5 fucking lanes and I'm just like
• 1:16:33
  it's kind of overwhelming especially when you trying to go
• 1:16:36
  from left to right and you on the left.
• 1:16:38
  And you trying. To go right.
• 1:16:40
  I know, I know exactly what street you're talking about too,
• 1:16:42
  'cause I'm like, Oh yeah, that's like 5.
• 1:16:43
  And dude is so confusing. It's such a pain, yes.
• 1:16:46
  Like, unless you live here, unless you know, Oh my God, it's
• 1:16:49
  such a pain. Yes, scary bro, not gonna lie.
• 1:16:51
  Yeah, it's such a pain, Yeah. But but yeah, I mean, that does
• 1:16:54
  raise the question, you know, like you live in the Midwest, so
• 1:16:57
  Ohio State's not in there. And I'm giving teams that have
• 1:16:59
  historically been good like I. Just I have a hard, I have a
• 1:17:04
  hard I, I want OOSU to be in that conversation.
• 1:17:11
  And it sounds weird because they they they won a championship
• 1:17:14
  recently, but like, it just feels like a bandwagon move,
• 1:17:18
  even though they haven't won a lot, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:17:22
  Like they're they're not like the biggest juggernaut, but I do
• 1:17:25
  feel like a bandwagon going to one of the big name, like I
• 1:17:29
  think 10 schools and I don't know, like I would love to.
• 1:17:31
  I remember strictly watching the Wisconsin Badgers for Jonathan
• 1:17:35
  Taylor. I watched all of the Jonathan
• 1:17:37
  Taylor Badger highlights. I watched every game.
• 1:17:40
  But like, I wouldn't be a Badger, you know what I mean?
• 1:17:42
  And plus, I'll be honest, you talk about rough football right
• 1:17:45
  now. Wisconsin's rough.
• 1:17:48
  Still my worst team in Wisconsin.
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  Though 20. 1 to 321 to. Three Bears.
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  But Mike, buddy, I appreciate you as always being on.
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  It's fun as always. We got, buddy, we got less than
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  three weeks and college football's back and then we got
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  less than a month NFL football's back.
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  So man, we ready. But you know what I'm really
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  ready for? Ready for flipping jeans and
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  hoodie weather. Tired of them roasting every
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  time I walk outside dude. CMI bought new undies.
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  No swamp ass this fall boys. I'm excited for some jeans.
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  Right, right. But appreciate everybody tuning
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  in, though. Thank you to MBR Military
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  Broadcast Radio helping give veterans a voice for hosting.
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  As always, thank you to Joy Joy for tuning in.
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  She kind of hung out with us all night, talked with us, gave us
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  some comments, gave us her thoughts and opinions.
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  Always appreciate Joy having you in.
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  And shout out to Gunfighter Beer Co.
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  They're great beer care products.
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  Made your beard look good, making you smell good, making
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  you feel good. All that coming into play
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  appreciate everybody TuneIn if you like me, of course you can
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  follow me on all of my social media inside there.
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  Who's your mind I'll do the Super corny like share subscribe
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  comment, do all of that it helps it helps me out.
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  I don't make no money I'm not trying to make no money like
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  that. I just like talking sports.
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  I especially like talking sports with Mike and if you like even
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  here Mike talk sports cuz MM has the passion like I I can bring
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  some I I can't hold it like I can't get AI can't.
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  I I need the Tony Hollingsworth. Dr. Mike's tired.
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  I could barely hang on myself. I say Mike is the Mike is the
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  cheetah. Like he gonna go hard, he gonna
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  go fast. Like I'm the turtle.
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  I'm just going to keep plugging along.
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  He. Sort of won that race, by the
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  way. He did.
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  He finally got there. But nonetheless, if you like
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  Mike's stuff, check him out at The Shy Kid.
• 1:19:40
  He covers all the great stuff. Dog bears, dog Cubs, not as much
• 1:19:45
  about the Blackhawks. I mean, you still cover them,
• 1:19:47
  but but not as much. And obviously when double s come
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  into season, they'll be covering the Bulls too.
• 1:19:54
  It's. More like a therapy session.
• 1:19:56
  They say so if you want to see Mike pull his hair out that
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  that'll probably be more more so that.
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  But appreciate everybody tuning in and we will see you all next
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  week as we get closer to football season.
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