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🌸 Show Creators of "Grosse Pointe Garden Society" Bill Krebs & Jenna Bans! BINGE NOW on 🦚 Peacock · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, darlings, all the darling listeners listening. We
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  Speaker 1: have been recapping this amazing show, gross Point Garden Society
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  Speaker 1: and along with my pal Megan Grano, what's that eggs?
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  Speaker 1: So we have obviously you all know that we're from
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  Speaker 1: gross Point, and so when we saw this show pop
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  Speaker 1: up with our hometown just plastered, we were like, are
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  Speaker 1: you kidding me? It is about time? And you know,
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  Speaker 1: all of us know, like, who listen to this show?
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  Speaker 1: We all watch the Real Housewives, we all we're all
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  Speaker 1: up in that girl. Megan actually doesn't want Real Housewives,
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  Speaker 1: but save yourself, Save yourself, Megan. That's what we got
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  Speaker 1: it covered. But so thrilled that this even happened to
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  Speaker 1: begin with. And so the fact that there's no real
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  Speaker 1: Housewives of Gross Point, guess what We've got one better
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  Speaker 1: for you. We've got gross Point Garden. They should do one, right,
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  Speaker 1: So we've done this recap and guess who is on
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  Speaker 1: the show with us today? The amazing creators. We have
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  Speaker 1: Jenna Bands and Bill Krabbs. We've stalked them, they've minorly
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  Speaker 1: stalked us, but they are here. I'm so excited to
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  Speaker 1: welcome you.
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  Speaker 2: In.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Stock.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't know about it, so I guess I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if that's stalking or no.
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  Speaker 1: But Liz crap, Shout out to your friend. Shout out
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  Speaker 1: to your friend Liz Craft, who I will give my
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  Speaker 1: DJ airhorn too. Thank you, Liz, because you told your
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  Speaker 1: friends who's she's obviously a friend and writer. You guys
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  Speaker 1: are all just sickly told you about my little podcast.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you so much for listening to the recaps.
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  Speaker 1: And we are so thrilled about this show. If you
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  Speaker 1: have not watched this show, you can binge all thirteen
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  Speaker 1: episodes on Peacock right now. The season just wrapped. The finale.
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  Speaker 1: We are not going to give spoilers on Keish. Who's Keish?
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  Speaker 1: You don't know, go find out, But like we're I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to give you. Yeah, we're not going to
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  Speaker 1: give you the spoilers. You have to binge it. It
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  Speaker 1: is so binge worthy you're not going to want to
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  Speaker 1: do it any other way. To be honest with you,
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  Speaker 1: it was hard, you know, in the in this day
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  Speaker 1: and age, Jenna and Bill like you know, we want
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  Speaker 1: our we want our murder mystery solved right quick and
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  Speaker 1: this dark comedy. It gave us everything. Please like, bring
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  Speaker 1: us to the beginning, the foundation. What was the seed
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  Speaker 1: that grew in the garden of the Gross Point Garden
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  Speaker 1: Society that gave you this idea?
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  Speaker 4: I love them as so many garden metaphors.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking language, we really missed sort of the throwback
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  Speaker 2: sort of television, uh, you know, things like Desperate Housewives
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  Speaker 2: and How to Get Away with Murder. You know what
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  Speaker 2: we thought of time would be like appointment TV, where
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  Speaker 2: you had to kind of check in week to week
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  Speaker 2: and you gather around the water cooler to talk about
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  Speaker 2: what happened that night. And so we wanted to kind
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  Speaker 2: of bring that back to network television and you know
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  Speaker 2: the fun of you know, those worlds and those storylines,
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  Speaker 2: and it just was absent from the landscape for a
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  Speaker 2: long time because so much a network has been dominated
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  Speaker 2: by procedurals, and so we wanted to kind of give
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  Speaker 2: it another shot, and you know, luckily so did NBC.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think it's sort of in the wheelhouse
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  Speaker 5: of things we both like to write. It's soapy, it's
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  Speaker 5: a little funny, it's a little dark.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we liked the darkly comedic element yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, gosh, So go on Good Girls, a show that
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  Speaker 1: Jenna created and I helped her run.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, we kind of carried that home a
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  Speaker 2: little bit into gross Point, but we didn't go as
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  Speaker 2: dark as we did.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, but now a little bit lighter, so we
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  Speaker 5: tried to keep things a little.
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  Speaker 6: Now, how did you how did you decide on gross Point? Now, Bill,
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  Speaker 6: I know you're from there. We have talked offline, but
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  Speaker 6: I'm just so curious how you how you? I mean,
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  Speaker 6: when when I saw I was driving down Lancasham in
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  Speaker 6: North Hollywood and I saw gross Point Garden Society.
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  Speaker 1: I like screached over.
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  Speaker 6: She cried, she picture to be honest, totally, But how
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  Speaker 6: did you get Gross Point?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 2: I think you know, we had talked about doing, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a sort of Desperate Housewives kind of show in a sense,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, gross Point is such a perfect little
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  Speaker 2: hamlet where they tried to preserve this sort of money,
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  Speaker 2: blue blood sort of culture their whole lives. Then ten
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  Speaker 2: feet outside of it, you're surrounded by Detroit, and so
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  Speaker 2: we really liked this idea that it was this isolated,
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  Speaker 2: sort of insulated world. And then we came up with
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  Speaker 2: the idea of the garden club because my stepmom actually
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  Speaker 2: was in a garden club where they would tour backyards
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  Speaker 2: and ultimately end up at the War Memorial where they
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  Speaker 2: had some giant you know garden there, and.
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  Speaker 1: I shout out War Memorial. Shout out. Also Bill, my
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  Speaker 1: mom is in the garden club as well. I know
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  Speaker 1: I may have mentioned that on the podcast, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they don't do gardening, but they do all these amazing activities,
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  Speaker 1: and yes, usually end up at the War Memorial or
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  Speaker 1: at someone's lunch or brunch. But okay, so your mom
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  Speaker 1: was in the garden.
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  Speaker 2: Clus period was fascinated by the kind of cross section
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  Speaker 2: of that world. You know, if you were from Cabbage
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  Speaker 2: Patch or you were from Grosse Pointe Park in a
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  Speaker 2: really big mansion, you still were part of the same club.
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  Speaker 2: And so, you know, we thought, what an interesting way
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  Speaker 2: that there could be class conflict, there could be tension
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  Speaker 2: within all the different types of personalities and the cultures,
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  Speaker 2: and it just seemed like a perfect sort of cross section.
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  Speaker 3: Of you know, chaos and problems that could ensue.
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  Speaker 4: Beautiful town.
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  Speaker 5: Like when he shown me features of it, I'm always
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  Speaker 5: blown away by the architecture and the houses like some
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  Speaker 5: of those houses are giant and gorgeous and idyll idyllic,
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  Speaker 5: and I just we also felt like what an aspirational
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  Speaker 5: world to drop into.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody wants to live in.
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  Speaker 3: A house like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we wanted, we loved, you know, kind of pushing
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  Speaker 2: Eric Damon, our costumer. He was also the costumer on
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  Speaker 2: Gossip Girl and Carrie Diaries.
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  Speaker 3: He's just amazing.
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  Speaker 2: He's from Monroe, Michigan, and he basically pushed, you know,
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  Speaker 2: all of the outfits and all the glam and just
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  Speaker 2: made it, you know, so wish fulfilling, colorful world.
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  Speaker 3: You just want to be in.
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  Speaker 4: And so I think Rose Point lent itself very.
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  Speaker 3: Well to that.
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  Speaker 1: And we are from You're from Minnesota, is that right?
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  Speaker 4: I'm from Minnesota.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, And my dad also pitched the idea of a
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  Speaker 5: garden club. We're looking for like a club, so they're
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  Speaker 5: universal in the Midwest. And yes, I'm from Minnesota. Slightly
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  Speaker 5: different vibe. I'm from the Twin Cities than gross Point.
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  Speaker 3: But we your sawber similar. Yeah, more like Birmingham.
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  Speaker 2: I would say I grew up in Birmingham and it
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  Speaker 2: felt more like that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you are serious too, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Live in the.
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  Speaker 1: Like anyway, Jenna, did you you worked on Desperate Housewives? Correct?
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was my first job two years ago in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, that's you're both of you. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: unbelievable your repertoire. If I may your CVS. I guess
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  Speaker 1: they're calling it that now. I don't know, but I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you worked on Gray's Anatomy as well, right, is that
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  Speaker 1: your connection with uh Catherine, because it wasn't Catherine, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: not Catherine. You were Rhyme's show.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so she was on How to Get Away with Murder.
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  Speaker 4: Pete back, which is produced.
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  Speaker 5: By Seana Ryans, and I did not work on that show,
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  Speaker 5: but he is a very good kind of mine. And
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  Speaker 5: when we were looking for Catherine, I had asked him
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  Speaker 5: about Asia and he's like, she is the greatest person,
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  Speaker 5: she's the greatest.
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  Speaker 4: Actor, and all of those things were true.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, and then we met with her for like
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  Speaker 3: a two and a half hour coffee.
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  Speaker 4: That was but I think it was definitely, you know,
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  Speaker 4: knowing Pete helped in all that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 4: It's a small it's just really a small.
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  Speaker 2: World and and just fire cast in general. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if we if we had gotten any just one of them,
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  Speaker 2: it would have been, you know, a success. And so
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  Speaker 2: to have the kind of talent with Anna, Sophia, Rob
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  Speaker 2: and Ben Rappaport and Melissa Vamero and Asia, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Just, you know, we were blown away. It was an
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  Speaker 3: embarrassment of riches.
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  Speaker 1: It really was, truly, and you both included in that
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  Speaker 1: because you created such an amazing world and based on
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  Speaker 1: your your background and creating shows and writing, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: amazing how those those came together. Would you say out
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  Speaker 1: of all the shows that you worked on that this
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  Speaker 1: is your favorite show?
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  Speaker 3: Of course?
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  Speaker 4: I mean you're working on.
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  Speaker 3: Right now is always? Yeah, that's the baby, Yeah, always joke.
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  Speaker 5: There's this thing with writers in Hollywood about drinking the
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  Speaker 5: pool aid. It's like, no matter what show you're on,
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  Speaker 5: whether it's your own you've created.
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  Speaker 4: Or you're working on someone else's show, you have no perspective.
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  Speaker 3: You're in a bubble.
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  Speaker 2: You're in a bubble with people you've hired to basically
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  Speaker 2: tell you how great the show is.
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  Speaker 3: Work show.
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  Speaker 4: But while you're in it, you have drunk the kool
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  Speaker 4: aid and you believe you justify genius show.
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  Speaker 3: All you read one tweet that's positive, and you go, well,
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  Speaker 3: this person is I just know. I looked on her
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  Speaker 3: on their Twitter and they have nine hundred followers. It's
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  Speaker 3: four hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Of those nine hundred something, we could have ten thousand,
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  Speaker 2: like instantly carry them one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I hear you. What challenges. Actually, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: pause this for just one second. I want to comment
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  Speaker 1: on what you were just saying for both of us.
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  Speaker 6: My friends from gross Point have been reaching out on Facebook,
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  Speaker 6: texting me. I know, Amy, you have your gross Point
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  Speaker 6: text thread, and everyone loves the show.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone is watching it.
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  Speaker 1: You nailed it. Everyone's like, it's so gross Point. Everyone
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  Speaker 1: tells us that, yeah. It's also like the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the other thing is too And I think the darlings
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  Speaker 1: listening will agree that it is. Like you said, you
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  Speaker 1: have to find the good shows because there is there
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  Speaker 1: are so many shows now. The people are streaming, they're
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  Speaker 1: constantly you know, you know, you're always looking at what
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  Speaker 1: you're already looking at if you're on your streaming device,
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  Speaker 1: and so sometimes you need to like remember that network
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  Speaker 1: shows can be so amazing when they're done so well.
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  Speaker 1: And so Chef's kiss because like a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: people who listen are like, I am so glad that
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  Speaker 1: you started recapping this because you know that's it tends
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  Speaker 1: to be somewhat of a blind spot sometimes and the
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  Speaker 1: amount of like the production level of this is sick
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  Speaker 1: when you know when I when you guys are throwing
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  Speaker 1: out these beats you know from our era, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: they are spending money on music, honey, like you guys
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  Speaker 1: are breaking and like you said, the costuming, the storyline.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's incredible. How the multiverse that you've created. How
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  Speaker 1: do you not get into the weeds of creating a
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  Speaker 1: murder mystery week after week, keeping it interesting and leaving
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  Speaker 1: it dangling. How difficult is that?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, were the weeds? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: The problem here's the network versus streaming, you know, model
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  Speaker 2: the differences. So when we started production, we only had
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  Speaker 2: three scripts and production was starting, so you're always getting
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  Speaker 2: chased by production and the cement dries once we shoot something.
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  Speaker 2: So we these giant timelines in our offices, you know
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  Speaker 2: that for the future of the murder and all the things.
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  Speaker 3: That happened, and we would have to be very kind
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  Speaker 3: of judicious about.
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  Speaker 2: How we moved everything around because once it was shot,
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  Speaker 2: there was nothing we could do.
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  Speaker 3: We couldn't go back and reshoot.
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  Speaker 2: And so we were only about two and a half
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  Speaker 2: weeks you know, ahead of production at any time, and
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  Speaker 2: so it was really nailed by the Yeah, and I think.
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  Speaker 5: Too, you know, we were really really didn't want to
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  Speaker 5: disappoint the audience. We really wanted it all to be
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  Speaker 5: additive in the end, and we wanted you to be
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  Speaker 5: able to look back and even rewatch and see all
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  Speaker 5: of the easter eggs that we planted, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Knowing that everything, yeah, everything was designed from the beginning,
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  Speaker 2: and that we knew that by the time you're thirteen
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  Speaker 2: in the rear view year, it all adds up.
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  Speaker 5: And I think putting that pressure, not that evan show
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  Speaker 5: creator does that, but you know, we didn't. We really
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  Speaker 5: didn't want to disappoint the audience. So I think we're
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  Speaker 5: very aware the entire time of like, it's got.
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  Speaker 3: To be good in the end.
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  Speaker 6: It's not an oh my goodness, And it was like
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  Speaker 6: your your episodes eleven and twelve, we talked about this.
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  Speaker 1: I could not get over. I have never seen so
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  Speaker 1: many payoffs. It was insane.
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  Speaker 6: Every every little thing I remember, like watching the episodes,
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  Speaker 6: waiting week by week, sometimes being like, oh, wow, Tucker's
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  Speaker 6: and security, I wonder how they chose that job.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and then the further you get you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: he has to be in security.
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  Speaker 4: This is it was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's other things without revealing stuff, you know, there's
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  Speaker 2: things that people say throughout that the reason they said
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  Speaker 2: it feels like we're misleading them in previous episodes.
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  Speaker 3: But it actually adds up when you get to eleven twelve.
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  Speaker 5: I also wanted because as you're watching the show, you
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  Speaker 5: can see there are a lot of episodes that sort
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  Speaker 5: of hint at the idea.
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  Speaker 4: It could be anyone. It could be you know, many
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  Speaker 4: different people in Groseplane could be the body, and so
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  Speaker 4: we wanted that to be additive as well.
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  Speaker 2: In every wanted that to lead into who the person
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  Speaker 2: really was you had to go to. We didn't want
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  Speaker 2: just to be kind of a schmuck bait.
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  Speaker 3: Dead end to add up.
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  Speaker 4: So if that conflict hadn't happened, the person who eventually
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  Speaker 4: was killed wouldn't have been killed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the end, we want we wanted all of
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  Speaker 2: them to kind of be the architects of their own demise.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, had Alice not gone on the journey of
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure out who killed her dog.
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  Speaker 3: None of this would happen, and then everything that branched off.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone tried to get what they wanted their lives.
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  Speaker 2: You know Birdie with her son, and Bret with custody,
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  Speaker 2: and you know Alice with her job in New York.
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  Speaker 3: It's they all were so close to all of that.
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  Speaker 3: Had none of this happened.
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  Speaker 1: Right on that note, I'm going to take a very
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  Speaker 1: quick break. That was our break, okay, and we're back.
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  Speaker 3: I even belong to gross Point.
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  Speaker 1: I am talking with the amazing creators of gross Point
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  Speaker 1: Garden Society, Bill Krebbs and Jenna Ban You guys, thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for being here.
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  Speaker 2: A couple.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I have a very random question for you. So,
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  Speaker 1: there is a storyline in the gross Point Garden Society
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  Speaker 1: where the realtor is you know, sleeping around and all
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  Speaker 1: the gross Point houses. Was this storyline informed by you know,
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  Speaker 1: a well known story that happened in gross Point And
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  Speaker 1: do you know what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we've been informed about this many times. It was
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  Speaker 3: not directly related to that at all.
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  Speaker 2: And okay, you know it coincidentally kind of fell into
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  Speaker 2: that category. But we both loved the movie American Beauty
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  Speaker 2: and do you know what we love the idea of
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  Speaker 2: like when Annette Betting is, you know, having sex with
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  Speaker 2: the the realty king or whatever, and so also we
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  Speaker 2: always had that as a storyline going forward.
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  Speaker 5: He actually decided on that storyline and those characters before
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  Speaker 5: we picked the city.
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  Speaker 2: Of the Yeah, it's kind of you know, there's some
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  Speaker 2: coincidences that have happened throughout because we now know in
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  Speaker 2: the headlines that there happened.
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  Speaker 4: Instance, I feel like that's a story that can have happened.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred right. Yeah, I know, absolutely, But it is
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  Speaker 1: funny because you know the the gross point streets are talking.
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  Speaker 3: We love that part of it. We love that part
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  Speaker 3: of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's absolutely fantastic. So when so where
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  Speaker 1: you are now is basically you were waiting to find
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  Speaker 1: out what happens with the destiny of the show. I
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  Speaker 1: feel it's very promising that you guys are going to
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  Speaker 1: come back. Maybe you're sitting on some information you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to reveal, but I do find that find a
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  Speaker 1: dark comedy in this day and age on a network
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  Speaker 1: show that's done so well is very rare. Do you
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  Speaker 1: feel like the network understands what they have in your show.
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  Speaker 4: We do, and we've been blown away by the support
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  Speaker 4: at the network.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they are fully behind the show.
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  Speaker 5: Creative executives got the show from the beginning, supported the
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  Speaker 5: show from the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, at the studio and the network level, and
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  Speaker 2: they love the cast, they love the material. You know,
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  Speaker 2: there's just sort of a reality to the network landscape,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: especially here at NBC. They have the NBA coming in
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, twenty six, and there's only so many
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: slots available for an NBC show, and so our best
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: bet is to get pushed over onto Peacock at this point,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: and we think that is where the show should kind
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: of live anyway, because we've noticed that people just kind
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: of don't have the patience in the same way that
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: we all used to before streaming to wait week to
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: week for these you know, see how things pay off,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: you know, in the storyline, and our show in particular
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: has a lot of detail to it. It's kind of
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: sophisticated in all the twists and turns and the jumps
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: in timeline. So we're asking a lot of the audience
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: to remember a week later, whereas when it just auto
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: plays the next episode on a streamer, it's fresh in
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: your head.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think you guys said it in
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: the beginning. Binging in is sort of the style in
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: which it's.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Made to live a little bit. So we would be
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: really excited and happy about.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: A move to Pekock, and I think they're still discussing
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: that and still looking at Peacock numbers.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: So everybody should please watch on Peacock.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Just let it run. Yeah, right here.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Playing it on all of their TVs.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: My mom called me Saturday and she was like, tell
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: your father he doesn't need to play the entire season
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: every day.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I want to watch something else.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I know he does.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: He does.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Minnesota loyalty is so strong. In the Midwest loyalty,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I mean that is like my parents. My dad's like, hey,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I've got your podcast on. It's in my pocket. I'm like,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you're at church, like you're you need to turn it off.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: It's explicit sometimes you know you gotta support. Yeah, I agree.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: The other thing is too. As a recapper, I loved
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: that it was once a week, you know, because then
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: you really can get it all in there and you
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: can really sift over it and you can take notes
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: and think about it and then kind of go through it.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: So I am very torn about, you know, the binging aspect,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: but I know that's where everybody is. I totally get it.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: But from my perspective, I do really love I loved
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: that it was it started on NBC. If it goes
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: to Peacock, that's amazing. I feel like everyone's you know,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: over there anyway, and that is absolutely where our a
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: lot of our people live. You know, the listener of
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the Real Housewives who watch that? Are you? Are you, guys, Jenna,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: are you a Real Housewives watcher?
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: I am?
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I am, yeah, I mean off and on.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm definitely a vander Pump Rules and Valley watcher.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: I'm also a Real Housewives of That really Hill's watcher.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: So I like dip in and out.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: I dabble and to Atlanta because we met Shamia Morton
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: in Atlanta to our set.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: God, okay, tell me all about this. Okay. So Shemiah Morton,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: who is actually now she's a full time housewife. She's
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: holding that peach on Atlanta. We're all watching it right now.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Take me through the day. She smo showed up at
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the set.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: It was we were shooting the finale and the lovely
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: people at NBC.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: The publicity people set it up because apparently our audience
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: is crossover.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Real house Housewives of Atlanta. Yeah and yeah, she came.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: She shot a bunch of content for Social in Catherine's
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: house on Catherine's second and the actors all spent time they.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Get over how the sets were, that the stairs led
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: do nothings like hilarious.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: That's what a Real Housewives reunion said, is like nothing
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: needs to anything, No, but that's hilarious.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Really looked fus, looked nails. She did not disa boyd and.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Our cast is they're real big pants to honest Sopia.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Rob in particular was like, so they all had the best.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Time, and she she was just lovely.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: She was awesome.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Was she just singing? Did she like break out into
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: song because she loves she did?
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Great, great, Now we were.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: There, but she stayed a very.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Long time and I think she did them and they
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: all got to hold the peach or the app is
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: it the app page?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: It's the peach in Atlanta? Yeah, now where they.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Held the peach and her lighting was spectacular too, better
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: than what we had on set.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: She had all the ring lights and all with her.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah to stand head master.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the gaffers are all like, we don't, you don't
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: need us. We're you know, look, if you want lighting
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: done right next season, just get ever real housewife. Would
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: you ever have like a real housewife do a cameo?
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, we've actually talked about.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: It.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: By the way, throw us Megan and I throw us
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: in there. We we'll we'll do Atlanta. We'll do we'll
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: do Atlanta. We're in We're sag Actra, we are Union baby.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Oh but in Atlanta you don't do that, so we'll
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: we'll do the you know anyway, I mean.
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: You do an impression of her?
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: No, I do not.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I don't do any impressions of any ladies in Atlanta
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: except for Kim Zulciak Beerman from eons and eons ago,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't do
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: any one from Atlanta. But I can do at least
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: a VANDAM for Jenna. Perhaps you've got a little wounded
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: bird on your guest Paul Alice.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Oh dear, and then a below deck guy.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Oh nice, Oh my god.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm a below deck mad.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I mean you know that's basically you know, my whole wheelhouse.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, literal wheelhouse, literal wheelhouse. So I love Yeah, I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: do a Captain Sandy too, you know I love a
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: leader Bill and uh you and Jenna, God, you guys
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: are great. You know what, I'm going to give you
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: three chances. No, I'm going to give you eighteen chances.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: All right, you get unlimited chances. All right, this show
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: is going to go the distance. Yeah, Captain Sandy, Sandy
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: probably loves your show.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: We love you, I mean really well.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: We've put We've put a lot of below deck med
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: references in Good Girls. We had read her character and
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Rena Wilson standon Ruby. They were below deck med fans.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Oh and godot it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Melissa Fumaro Bertie was watching THEWS.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, and she's eating the chips and.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: That's right, she was watching.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: She might have been watching Atlanta.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I think she was. I think she asked, what was
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: that like shooting in Atlanta? You you seem to capture
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: gross point really well in Atlanta?
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: How was that?
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Our production designer, he uh is the most thorough person
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: maybe I've ever met my life Adam Davis, and so
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: he did a huge deep dive into gross Point and
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the architecture going back to the eighteen fifties, and we
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: happened to find a place in Atlanta called Druid Hills
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: that is the exact same architecture.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: All the homes, the you know, the Tutors and the
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: French manors and all the.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: You know, even some of the colonials that are there
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: all just look exactly like Gross Point. And then the
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: big issue was how do we get the village and
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the hill, you know that kind of look. And we
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: went to this place called Norcross in Doraville or Georgia,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: you know, I was called Norcross is the town, but yeah,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: it it looked very similar to you know, the village,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and so we were always hunting for, you know, the
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: right location to have it capture you know, sort of
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: the field.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: The one thing we we didn't get that least we
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: kind of got, was sort of the country club vibe,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: you know, that just wasn't as present and it didn't.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Allow for our budget.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I mean the history of the country.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like like the kind of the money like country
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: club at Detroit, like we fought and all that, you know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: we didn't.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: We didn't kind of delve into that air. We talked
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: about it a.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Lot and so, but shooting in Atlanta was amazing.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: The crews are so good and experienced and professional, and
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: the food.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Seems really good in Atlanta.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: That a nice best restaurants.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: They it took a like a sixteen mile loop around
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: the city that was railroad track and they turned it
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: into sort of a high line of restaurants and bars.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: We became. We got the first season of Good Girls
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: in Atlanta, and it was it was good, but it
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: wasn't It wasn't what it is today at all.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: It's exponentially I would say it might be the best
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: city the United States.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm a huge Atlanta f.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Atlanta. Yes, that's what Lanta.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: I remember. And I don't know if you ever even
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: thought about shooting anything and in Gross point but I remember, Amy,
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: I don't know if you remember this when Gross point
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: blank came out the movie and I think the only
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: thing they.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Got the opening credits, the opening credits? Did lake Shore?
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: That was it?
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, yeah, that's so funny.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: It just costs prohibited. It's used to have a good
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: tax credit you know it expired.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you just have to go wherever the
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: best tax credit is is where you're owned up.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and and and it's such a bummer that that
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: ended it. They had such a burgeoning film scene happened
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: in Michigan for many years, and all of the acts
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: and comedians that I knew back you know, back there.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I had moved to Chicago and then LA they were
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: getting so much work. I mean, it was just amazing.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: And I mean Bill took over all those sound stages
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: from the advertising you know, agencies and stuff that made
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: them into such great, you know, production facilities, and now
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: muses them. I don't think in that way, you know.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I know, it's such a bummer. So are you guys,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: are you working on any other I should say this
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: number one? Are you We're already writing season two? And
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: are you working on other projects in the Meantime'm sure
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: you're juggling a ton of things. But what are you
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: What are you up to? And you guys are reporting
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: live from the NBC universe a lot right, Yeah too
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: from NBC.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Definitely always working on other projects.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: We had a project we were working on together before
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: the show got picked up that we got picked up
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: that we sort of put aside to concentrate on the show,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: so we're picking that back up. We have done a
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: little preliminary work in two in terms of telling our
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: partners at the network and studio creatively where the show
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: is going to go, what's going.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: To happen, And we always sort of had a season
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: two in mind when we were doing season one. As
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: you know by how season one ends, we have that
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: kind of mapped out right, so that we're.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Not actively fighting yet until the decision.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Sure I it that is not to be. Yeah, I'm
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: so excited. Megan and I have been loving this. The
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: only bummer thing that happened was we recorded an episode
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: that wasn't recorded, so that, you know, unfortunately our listeners
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: missed out on like that, but we made up for
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: it the following week. We just didn't get into as
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: many details the following week. But that tech Shember like,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I thought that was the one. I brought this today
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: my poabic.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: There is great discussion on set. How you say that,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: you know, we had to go through our script coordinator. Everyone.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I mean people were rehearsing it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: They did not know they were what were they saying?
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Like they cannot see.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that that word really through some people,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: as did I think. I think we've got parchable. Yeah,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: And then we took you out because I'd like, forget it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: We're never going to get that. Which one?
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Which one?
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Cad you?
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, cad you? Oh my god, this is amazing. Love
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: this cubic tile. I'm dead. I'm dead.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I love that you. I love that you have that.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Also, we have an unofficial sponsor. This is twall dot
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: com t w a L. Actually Twall dot Shop t
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: w a L dot shop. They have all of the
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the gross Point landmarks. They sent us this stuff and
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: it's like, I no, is that a site too right now?
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Or is that a specialty gift for you?
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: They have a shop in gross Point. They send us
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: some stuff. Yes, Maggie, Maggie, she's a friend of mine.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I'm sure she would love to send you guys some
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: stuff that they send us. These bottles, it's very gross
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Point acrylic like praise. So yeah, hats, fish fly hats.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: You know what's funny is that's the one thing that
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: we didn't put in that I that was like iconic
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: for my childhood is the fish flies.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, how could you do that? Like just
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: windshield wipers, just like I remember my.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Stepmom used to make me go to the ATM at
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: night to get cash out for because they just be
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: swarmed and.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: She couldn't do it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: It's such a distinct. You nailed that.
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: I remember my mom going to I think it was
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: Comerica Bank on Jefferson right by Caju and she would
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: do the same thing, like can you go there and
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: get out?
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's the exact one.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: To go to.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: My god, shut well, I mean, you can let this simmer.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: But I'm thinking the dead body might need to be
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: with some fish flies at some point. I don't know what.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Just a good idea.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Listen, Megan, Megan's a writer, I'm kind of but you know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: we have some ideas. Or is there anything else you
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: want to share about the show, or like tell these
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: amazing Darling listeners anything else about your experience or.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: People who haven't started it.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: You know, it really is a fun ride, Like if
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: you can, you know, get through the first couple episodes
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: that really lay out sort of the groundwork for the
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: entire season, that you're just not going to be disappointed.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: It's just a fun, fun ride, I think is the
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: best way to describe sexy. Sexy, it's twisty.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: My parents were very surprised by the reveal, some of
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: the reveals.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Very shocked.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: We need to get Jenna's parents on here.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they are there.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: They always.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: My mom was like, I just I mean, Good Girls
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: was my favorite. I just can't go over it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: And now she's like, this is amazing, oil to the
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: last show until she gets into the next.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: And and also to your point about your parents liking
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: it and my parents and your mom, Megan like, Bill,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: obviously yours not to be excluded. Bill, You're not excluded.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: But it just it really spans like your demographic is
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: kind of like every the every person, because I felt
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: like there are tons of there's people on TikTok who
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: are just you know, these are influencers that are talking
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: about your show that are you know, in their twenties.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: And then you've got our parents being like, oh my heavens,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: oh my word, I can't get enough, you know, I mean,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: it's it is really like one of those shows.
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: So again, yeah, because a mystery, it's a mystery, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: it's woven so well, and it's a mystery, and we
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: spent so much time on the podcast trying to figure
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: it out, and I feel like we were wrong every step,
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: every stuff.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Everything really good.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys were really good about you.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Know, there's well there there is an element that I
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: guess you can't talk about. I was gonna talk about Peach,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: but we can't. Yeah, I kind of can't. I just
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: realized what I mentioned.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hard, Yeah, we don't.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: I mean you were always spot on.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: With with your you know analysis, and you caught all
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the little easter eggs and things in the you know,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: were impressed.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: We were really impressed.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: We love I mean, get your asked down to the
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: mc avenue Garden store, like I just everything about it.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: It's so great. Jenna Bands, Bill Krabs. I cannot thank
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: you enough, like truly thank you for supporting our podcast.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you for being like just supportive of the arts
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and also wanting to share your story and your amazing show.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: We're humbled by you being on the show. Megan and
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I absolutely love it, and hopefully next season you come
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: back and we'll promote your next season. Okay, we would love.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: That, love it.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: You're so grateful to be on the podcast too. We're
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: grateful that you've watched all season and you read. If
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: we get a season two, we can help you recap.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Or we can ask you so awesome. Yes, my god,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: some questions you had.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I'm also I'm also kind of starstruck myself because I
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  Speaker 2: think you mentioned in a podcast that you were you
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  Speaker 2: did voices for Dick Purton.
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  Speaker 1: For being a starstrek. Thank you for.
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  Speaker 3: One of pertins people.
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  Speaker 1: I am one of people.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 5: Bo.
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  Speaker 3: That really kind of like, you know.
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  Speaker 1: That gets home on a different level. Yeah, it does,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it. Thank you, Thank you. I appreciate that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much. You guys megs well we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: you know, oh my god. Thank you as always. This
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  Speaker 1: is such a great wrap up of our gross Ploat
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  Speaker 1: Garden Society recap. Who knew? Thanks again, you guys. Have
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  Speaker 1: a great day on the NBC Universal a lot and
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk.
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  Speaker 3: Say thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: Hey bye.