Latest / PNW Haunts & Homicides / Two Deaths, One Date: Patience Boston & the Purrinton Family | York & Augusta, Maine
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- 0:00Speaker 1: When I had the moment, I had the epiphany. I
- 0:03Speaker 1: was like, this very specifically has to be my next
- 0:08Speaker 1: one because of the.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Date, because it's my birthday.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Yes, barring any unexpected circumstances, this episode is going to
- 0:17Speaker 1: come out on your birthday, July nine.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Happy birthday to me. Happy birthday.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Do you so?
- 0:25Speaker 1: This episode pairs two unrelated tragedies that happened exactly seventy
- 0:32Speaker 1: two years apart on the very same calendar date. Hi Cassie,
- 0:40Speaker 1: Hi Caitlin, Hi creepy people. Oh hellou hell. This is
- 0:48Speaker 1: PNW Hansen Homicides, where we chat about true crime, the paranormal,
- 0:55Speaker 1: and all the spooky things that happen in the Pacific Northwest.
- 0:59Speaker 2: All of them, all of them or the PNW I
- 1:01Speaker 2: f you're nasty. Oh yeah, And we do a tarot
- 1:04Speaker 2: reading at the end of every episode for a little
- 1:06Speaker 2: deeper insight into our topic.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Oh right, that old thing. So this is like kind
- 1:16Speaker 1: of a little late in the game sort of. But
- 1:21Speaker 1: do you remember it? You know, it was like last summer,
- 1:25Speaker 1: I think right around it was. It was a holiday weekend.
- 1:28Speaker 1: I want to say it was the Memorial Day weekend.
- 1:32Speaker 1: I went and did an interview for a true crime
- 1:37Speaker 1: TV show.
- 1:39Speaker 3: Yes, I remember, I wasn't there, just Caitlin exactly.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Well, I bet you remember it because they sent me
- 1:48Speaker 1: with some goodies.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Yeah they did. Yeah, it got drunk.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Yeah, those Irish flag pins and then we were gifted
- 1:59Speaker 1: a bottle of Jamison.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Each yo, thank you.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Yeah. So the show is actually it's it's called Bloodline Detectives,
- 2:10Speaker 1: and I had to do a little poking around to
- 2:12Speaker 1: find out where I could watch it. I'm sure it's different,
- 2:16Speaker 1: like in all different regions and stuff. I think I
- 2:20Speaker 1: ended up finding it on to Be and it was free.
- 2:23Speaker 2: To watch, so oh okay.
- 2:26Speaker 1: So it's actually two episodes that aired actually all the
- 2:31Speaker 1: way back in I think January that I'm in. It's
- 2:35Speaker 1: season six, episodes fourteen and fifteen. Pretty exciting. I think
- 2:45Speaker 1: it goes without saying that at some point I will
- 2:50Speaker 1: have to cover the two cases that the show talked about.
- 2:55Speaker 1: They're very interesting. It'll probably be a while because now
- 2:59Speaker 1: that I've I've talked about it, I don't you know,
- 3:03Speaker 1: I want to surprise.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Everybody, right, I haven't watched it yet, so I have
- 3:08Speaker 3: to go find it. I tried, and I could only
- 3:11Speaker 3: find it on like YouTube, but then that they didn't
- 3:14Speaker 3: have those episodes or that season out yet.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Yeah, it is recent enough that probably you would want
- 3:20Speaker 1: to watch it on TB or it's on like Pluto TV.
- 3:26Speaker 1: There's there's actually a bunch of places you can watch it.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Caitlyn's famous.
- 3:31Speaker 3: I wonder if anyone like watched it and was like, hey,
- 3:35Speaker 3: that's Caitlin.
- 3:37Speaker 2: That would be really to be a hopeful homicide. Why
- 3:39Speaker 2: didn't you tell us that you watched it? Yeah, female us, Yeah.
- 3:43Speaker 1: If you watch it, let us know and just know
- 3:48Speaker 1: that the camera adds ten pounds and I think they
- 3:52Speaker 1: had at least three cameras on me. And it was
- 3:57Speaker 1: very hot. So if i'm if I'm like listening at all,
- 4:03Speaker 1: you know, just a couple of disclaimers.
- 4:07Speaker 3: You're beautiful. Your skin is just glowing. That's the style
- 4:11Speaker 3: right now, glowy skin.
- 4:12Speaker 1: So you're yeah, Well, I will say that after kind
- 4:17Speaker 1: of taking a break from doing video for the podcast,
- 4:24Speaker 1: coming across the episodes in that timeframe, I was like, wow,
- 4:29Speaker 1: I've I guess I didn't realize how I'm like just
- 4:33Speaker 1: not used to seeing my face and stuff. Yeah, I
- 4:39Speaker 1: was like self conscious in a way that I haven't
- 4:42Speaker 1: been since we first started doing video for the podcast,
- 4:46Speaker 1: and I was like.
- 4:47Speaker 3: Oh god, I know I would be too, but that's
- 4:50Speaker 3: not what it's about exactly.
- 4:53Speaker 1: I was like, well, listen, hopefully I don't look like
- 4:56Speaker 1: a swamp troll or something. But yeah, it's really not
- 5:01Speaker 1: about how good or bad I look. But selfishly, you know,
- 5:08Speaker 1: you do hope that you, you know, look reasonably well put
- 5:12Speaker 1: together when you appear on camera.
- 5:15Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I don't know.
- 5:16Speaker 3: I've watched a lot of documentaries and some people look
- 5:20Speaker 3: questionable on camera.
- 5:22Speaker 2: But yeah, it's fine.
- 5:24Speaker 3: Yeah, well, everyone go watch it and tell Caylen how
- 5:28Speaker 3: beautiful she is and what a good job she did.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Yes, please, Well I'm excited for this. Obviously. We talked
- 5:37Speaker 1: about this offline before we started recording. I had an idea.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Last night. I had an episode that was completely ready
- 5:48Speaker 1: to go. It actually has show notes prepared when we
- 5:55Speaker 1: upload it to Apple and everything. And then I thought,
- 6:01Speaker 1: you know what, this pattern of like seemingly kind of
- 6:05Speaker 1: having my shit together for a little bit, it's really
- 6:08Speaker 1: rubbing me the wrong way. Love that, so let's introduce
- 6:11Speaker 1: some chaos. But I'm like, I wasn't looking for this.
- 6:15Speaker 1: It just happened.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Okay, it was meant to be.
- 6:19Speaker 1: It was meant to be. I was watching a show
- 6:22Speaker 1: that at this point it's like kind of a historical democracy,
- 6:27Speaker 1: and they were talking about like colonial days in America,
- 6:33Speaker 1: like back when it was the thirteen Colonies.
- 6:37Speaker 2: Not Pacific Northwest.
- 6:38Speaker 1: No. No, But something that I googled last night while
- 6:44Speaker 1: I was watching this documentary set me off down this path,
- 6:50Speaker 1: this rabbit hole.
- 6:51Speaker 2: I love if you will, I love it.
- 6:53Speaker 3: I love when plans just get switched last minute. It's
- 6:58Speaker 3: my favorite thing.
- 6:59Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so I knew it all the time.
- 7:03Speaker 3: We talk about this all the time, Like I had
- 7:06Speaker 3: this other episode and I just wasn't feeling it and
- 7:09Speaker 3: I had to go find something else.
- 7:11Speaker 1: I mean, I was totally feeling that episode. But the
- 7:16Speaker 1: thing is, when I had the moment, I had the epiphany,
- 7:21Speaker 1: I was like, this very specifically has to be my
- 7:26Speaker 1: next one because of the date, because.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Because it's my birthday.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Yes, barring any unexpected circumstances, this episode is going to
- 7:37Speaker 1: come out on your birthday, July ninth.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Happy birthday to me, Happy birthday to you.
- 7:44Speaker 1: So this episode pairs two unrelated tragedies that happened exactly
- 7:51Speaker 1: seventy two years apart, on the very same calendar date,
- 7:57Speaker 1: Oh creepy July ninth. That date lines up with, as
- 8:05Speaker 1: I've already said, a certain co host birthday, and both
- 8:11Speaker 1: stories are set in and around Portland. That is Portland, Maine.
- 8:19Speaker 4: Oh you trickster, a city to whom Portland, Oregon is
- 8:25Speaker 4: considered the coin toss sibling city on the opposite coast.
- 8:32Speaker 2: That's right. Do you know the other name?
- 8:34Speaker 1: Oh? I do. I'm about to get into what Okay.
- 8:38Speaker 1: When Francis Pettygrove of Maine and Asa Lovejoy of Massachusetts
- 8:45Speaker 1: decided to make the Oregon Territory their new home in
- 8:48Speaker 1: eighteen forty five, both wanted to name it after their
- 8:52Speaker 1: own hometown. A Yeah, they did.
- 8:55Speaker 3: I feel like every time I go on any type
- 8:57Speaker 3: of tour of this in Portland, we get this story
- 9:01Speaker 3: and I just love it.
- 9:02Speaker 1: I honestly, I don't think I had ever heard this before. Really, dude,
- 9:09Speaker 1: Like it was like being hit with a lightning bolt repeatedly.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Every time I was like looking at and like I'm
- 9:19Speaker 1: not even to the actual topics yet, but like, holy shit,
- 9:23Speaker 1: it was like being hit with lightning bolts repeatedly. Everything
- 9:26Speaker 1: about this was just like, oh, and this and this.
- 9:30Speaker 1: I was so excited.
- 9:32Speaker 3: I'm a vote for coin toss the other direction. But
- 9:35Speaker 3: it's fine.
- 9:36Speaker 1: In the end, it was a coin toss that decided
- 9:39Speaker 1: between Boston and Portland, and the rest is history. But
- 9:46Speaker 1: did you know, Cassie Today the eighteen thirty five Portland
- 9:51Speaker 1: penny is preserved by the Oregon Historical Society and on
- 9:56Speaker 1: display at their downtown Portland Museum.
- 9:59Speaker 2: Oh well, okay, the penny they used for the coin toss.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Yep C, I know right, want to see it. That's
- 10:06Speaker 1: an old Niosh pany. So, the two cases that I'm
- 10:11Speaker 1: going to be talking about today are a deliberate, intentional
- 10:14Speaker 1: choice for this episode, precisely because of the odd parallels
- 10:19Speaker 1: and connections. My research even turned up an additional, genuinely
- 10:24Speaker 1: unplanned synchronicity. I realized there's another one as I was
- 10:30Speaker 1: finishing writing the case literally today. What the first one
- 10:35Speaker 1: is a death that is very, very sad, and I
- 10:38Speaker 1: feel weird sounding excited about it right now. But in
- 10:42Speaker 1: the second case, the death occurs at around three am
- 10:47Speaker 1: on July thirtieth, eighteen oh six, and that is the
- 10:53Speaker 1: date that was anticipated to be my own date of birth, Aka,
- 10:58Speaker 1: it was my doo date, but just obviously centuries later, right, Yeah,
- 11:05Speaker 1: no one else that old. It's me to be born
- 11:07Speaker 1: in eighteen oh six.
- 11:10Speaker 2: She actually is a vampire.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Right. Just strange things like that cluster around this story.
- 11:20Speaker 1: There's all these like kind of little syncreticities. And I'm
- 11:24Speaker 1: going to tell you about a couple little things that
- 11:29Speaker 1: got me going down this road. Both cases also share
- 11:34Speaker 1: a second, quieter thread. They rely on documents written by
- 11:39Speaker 1: the people closest to them. In patients Boston's case, two
- 11:45Speaker 1: Puritan ministers shaping her words into a conversion narrative. In
- 11:51Speaker 1: the Puritan case, a midwife named Martha Ballard, writing in
- 11:57Speaker 1: her own diary the same week of the event, with
- 12:02Speaker 1: no agenda at all beyond bearing witness. In seventeen thirty four,
- 12:07Speaker 1: Maine was not yet its own state. It was a
- 12:11Speaker 1: remote district of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, and York was
- 12:15Speaker 1: one of its oldest English settlements, first established in the
- 12:20Speaker 1: sixteen twenties, repeatedly burned and rebuilt through decades of conflict
- 12:25Speaker 1: between English colonists and the region's native nations. By the
- 12:30Speaker 1: time this story takes place, York had a courthouse, a
- 12:34Speaker 1: meeting house, and a jail, which in the source material
- 12:39Speaker 1: they referred to it as the old jail, but it's
- 12:43Speaker 1: spelled gaol, which all, yes, huh, it's apparently an archaic
- 12:52Speaker 1: or traditional British spelling of jail, but it's literally just
- 12:56Speaker 1: pronounced jail.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Okay, fancy jail things in the.
- 13:01Speaker 1: UK be wild. It was built in seventeen nineteen and
- 13:06Speaker 1: still stands today as one of the oldest public buildings
- 13:11Speaker 1: in the United States. Wow, over fifty years before we
- 13:16Speaker 1: became a country. Yeah, I mean before we even tried
- 13:21Speaker 1: to become a country. It sets a tone that the
- 13:26Speaker 1: oldest building still standing today is like, oh, one of
- 13:31Speaker 1: our earliest jails.
- 13:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel so lico civilized. We are proud of
- 13:37Speaker 3: ourselves that we can put people away.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Well, you know, the trend definitely continued, I guess, so
- 13:44Speaker 1: there's that. It feels like that really captures our vibe.
- 13:49Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:51Speaker 1: This was also a world built on two intertwined systems
- 13:55Speaker 1: of forced labor and forced belonging. Native indentured servitude an
- 14:01Speaker 1: African enslavement. Patience Boston's life touched both. She was indentured
- 14:08Speaker 1: to an English family as a small child, after her
- 14:12Speaker 1: mother's death, she would go on to marry an enslaved
- 14:16Speaker 1: black whaler.
- 14:18Speaker 2: Oh yes, okay.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Nearly everyone she lived among, worked for, or was bound to,
- 14:25Speaker 1: held some form of power over her that she had
- 14:28Speaker 1: no say in or very little say in her story.
- 14:34Speaker 1: It's important that that doesn't get separated from the structure
- 14:39Speaker 1: of it. It's the frame the entire tragedy sits inside.
- 14:45Speaker 1: Patience was born December twenty sixth, seventeen eleven on Montamoy
- 14:52Speaker 1: Island to a couple that were members of the Nauset tribe.
- 14:57Speaker 1: The pronunciation guide that I found says it literally looks
- 15:01Speaker 1: like it says, nah sit, you know, nah sit, you know,
- 15:07Speaker 1: go ahead and sit down.
- 15:09Speaker 2: I am.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Her parents, John Samson and Sarah Jethrow, are described in
- 15:15Speaker 1: at least one source as coming from high ranking families
- 15:19Speaker 1: within their community, which is I feel like kind of
- 15:23Speaker 1: a significant detail about her history because whatever standing her
- 15:29Speaker 1: family held ultimately really meant nothing within the colonial system,
- 15:36Speaker 1: especially when you think about that's the same system that
- 15:40Speaker 1: would go on to indenture patients as a young child.
- 15:44Speaker 1: So I mean, these are people that are of some
- 15:47Speaker 1: you know, whether it may have been more fractional for
- 15:51Speaker 1: you know, one or the other of her parents, but
- 15:53Speaker 1: they are of Native descent. I get the feeling that
- 15:56Speaker 1: they were both like full native. Sarah Jethro died when
- 16:02Speaker 1: Patience was just three years old. After her mother's death,
- 16:06Speaker 1: Patience's father indentured her to a man named Paul. Though
- 16:10Speaker 1: it's not a critical detail in the story, his last
- 16:14Speaker 1: name either Krowell or crow. I just couldn't really confirm
- 16:19Speaker 1: definitively across historical records. Okay, kind of fuck that guy though, anyway,
- 16:26Speaker 1: because who's like, yeah, I want to indenture a three
- 16:31Speaker 1: year old.
- 16:35Speaker 2: I have questions about that.
- 16:38Speaker 1: And I do feel like this next little section here
- 16:41Speaker 1: is probably gonna have some answers for you, because I
- 16:44Speaker 1: kind of had the same reaction. Actually, wait, I don't
- 16:47Speaker 1: want the answers.
- 16:48Speaker 2: I changed my mind. I don't want to take it back.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Well, I'm afraid we're already into deep.
- 16:55Speaker 2: It's my birthday.
- 16:56Speaker 1: Why nothing bad has even happened on your birthday yet?
- 17:04Speaker 1: So the fact that Patience is indentured to presumably a
- 17:12Speaker 1: you know, maybe not even wealthy, but essentially an English family,
- 17:18Speaker 1: it says a lot about the precariousness of Native family
- 17:23Speaker 1: life under English colonial law, her father grieving the loss
- 17:28Speaker 1: of his wife, handing his daughter over to an English
- 17:31Speaker 1: household because the system really gave him few other paths
- 17:36Speaker 1: to ensure she'd be fed and housed. Oh, I don't
- 17:42Speaker 1: know that it was necessarily a situation where he couldn't
- 17:46Speaker 1: care for her outright, or maybe more so that just
- 17:51Speaker 1: like I can't deal. I don't know that it was
- 17:55Speaker 1: necessarily that he didn't have the resources. It might have
- 17:58Speaker 1: just been more like, personally, I don't have the bandwidth.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be really hard.
- 18:07Speaker 1: Yeah. In either case, it's ultimately like Sucksville for patients,
- 18:12Speaker 1: I will say, uh.
- 18:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:14Speaker 1: So after the death of Paul's wife, patients began to
- 18:18Speaker 1: exhibit what most would categorize as either typical teenage behavior
- 18:25Speaker 1: kind of keeping bad company and sneaking out.
- 18:29Speaker 2: Okay, she could have been a kid of.
- 18:31Speaker 1: The nineteen nineties. When I read some of that they
- 18:36Speaker 1: did back then, I honestly was like, we're teenagers sneaking
- 18:42Speaker 1: out in the seventeen hundreds. I guess, yeah, probably since
- 18:46Speaker 1: the dawn of time.
- 18:48Speaker 3: It's probably easier because they didn't have cameras or cell phones,
- 18:52Speaker 3: right alarm system exactly.
- 18:54Speaker 1: Yeah, though perhaps In hindsight, these behaviors may have been
- 18:59Speaker 1: the earliest signs of her childhood trauma and unprocessed grief
- 19:04Speaker 1: experiences and feelings that she had neither the language to
- 19:08Speaker 1: express nor the tools to heal from. Patients began drinking
- 19:13Speaker 1: heavily as her term of servitude ended. Later, she would
- 19:18Speaker 1: marry Caesar Boston, who was well acquainted with the struggles
- 19:22Speaker 1: of bondage as a literally enslaved black man working on
- 19:29Speaker 1: whaling ships.
- 19:30Speaker 2: So that would be just crazy. You have to be
- 19:35Speaker 2: a whaler.
- 19:35Speaker 1: Like to listen, there's sh there's a lot that like
- 19:40Speaker 1: intellectually from like looking back through like a twenty twenty
- 19:45Speaker 1: six lens that I'm like, like, my head doesn't really
- 19:50Speaker 1: I can't go there. Yeah, Patience was a real one
- 19:57Speaker 1: choosing to bind herself in servitude along inside him. Wow,
- 20:03Speaker 1: though Massachusetts law did not require it of her as
- 20:07Speaker 1: a free native woman. And at this point, like I said,
- 20:10Speaker 1: her you know, indentured servitude, like that term had ended
- 20:15Speaker 1: from when her dad basically you know, handed her over.
- 20:19Speaker 1: But if she wanted to stay with her husband, binding
- 20:23Speaker 1: herself to the same household was practically speaking, kind of
- 20:28Speaker 1: the only way to do it. Because Caesar, as an
- 20:32Speaker 1: enslaved person, uh literally had no say in the matter
- 20:36Speaker 1: of like where he went, what he did, had no
- 20:41Speaker 1: bodily autonomy.
- 20:43Speaker 2: So it's interesting to me that he could get married though.
- 20:48Speaker 1: Yeah, the documentary that I was watching, you know, they
- 20:52Speaker 1: talked quite a bit about the Transatlantic slave trade, but
- 20:56Speaker 1: they also, i mean just about slavery in general in
- 21:01Speaker 1: the colonies. And one of the things that kind of
- 21:06Speaker 1: obviously we know about the three fifths, it was designed
- 21:11Speaker 1: basically to give the South more votes, oh, because they
- 21:15Speaker 1: had a ton more people, but just most of them
- 21:17Speaker 1: weren't even really counted like people.
- 21:20Speaker 3: Right.
- 21:21Speaker 1: I'm just trying to do like a super service level
- 21:24Speaker 1: explanation here. But one of the things that kind of
- 21:29Speaker 1: the Founders and the Framers had to sort of negotiate
- 21:33Speaker 1: was there were a lot of people in northern States
- 21:36Speaker 1: that were like very adamantly opposed to slavery. I think
- 21:41Speaker 1: we all, you know, intellectually understand that on some level,
- 21:46Speaker 1: but seeing how passionate the debate was as they were
- 21:50Speaker 1: writing the Constitution, and seeing how close our country in
- 21:55Speaker 1: the very very early days came to like very nearly
- 21:59Speaker 1: just not even like just dissolving because they're like, hey,
- 22:03Speaker 1: this is you know what, we can't agree on anything,
- 22:06Speaker 1: so fuck it.
- 22:07Speaker 2: Wow weird. Yeah, I know, not a lot's changed.
- 22:12Speaker 1: Yeah, strange. One of like the really like the sticking
- 22:20Speaker 1: points was sort of the South did not want to
- 22:24Speaker 1: do away with specifically the Transatlantic slave trade, which meant
- 22:28Speaker 1: they were still actively kidnapping people from Africa and bringing
- 22:35Speaker 1: them here versus you know, having to essentially depend on
- 22:41Speaker 1: your enslaved workforce reproducing to kind of maintain.
- 22:49Speaker 2: That makes sense. Yeah, this is gross.
- 22:52Speaker 1: Yeah. When they were writing up the Constitution, one of
- 22:55Speaker 1: the things that was negotiated was that Congress would not
- 23:01Speaker 1: make the Transatlantic slave trade and bringing in new slaves.
- 23:05Speaker 1: They could not outlaw that for twenty years. And the
- 23:09Speaker 1: reason is that the plantation owners in the South firmly
- 23:14Speaker 1: believed that if they could keep bringing importing essentially more
- 23:18Speaker 1: humans for the next twenty years, that once that twenty
- 23:23Speaker 1: year period ended, either they would just you know, they
- 23:27Speaker 1: would just basically like, oh, well, we're going to either
- 23:31Speaker 1: convince or browbeat the Northern States, or worst case scenario,
- 23:36Speaker 1: if they do end that aspect of you know, slavery
- 23:41Speaker 1: and you know, new trading, we will have enough literal
- 23:48Speaker 1: humans that we own that they will just reproduce. We
- 23:54Speaker 1: won't have to bring in more because we'll have enough.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Then twenty years is a long time.
- 24:00Speaker 2: It's so upsetting, it's so gross. Oh my god, so gross.
- 24:05Speaker 1: And I say all I mean just the timing of
- 24:08Speaker 1: like coming across this case as I was watching that
- 24:12Speaker 1: documentary about like you know, the formation, the founding of
- 24:16Speaker 1: America and you know, our War for Independence, like so
- 24:20Speaker 1: many unique and interesting like details about like America's history,
- 24:26Speaker 1: like from basically like day one. It's like, uh BC
- 24:32Speaker 1: versus a D.
- 24:34Speaker 2: Yeah, oh jeez.
- 24:37Speaker 1: But it's like it's such a huge component of her
- 24:40Speaker 1: story because she's a native woman who was you know, crazy,
- 24:47Speaker 1: She actually was supposedly part of a family that had
- 24:49Speaker 1: some sort of status and standing in society, and she
- 24:53Speaker 1: ends up becoming an indentured servant. Then she goes on
- 24:57Speaker 1: to marry a black man who is enslaved. Literal bondage
- 25:03Speaker 1: was such a huge theme in her life from from
- 25:07Speaker 1: start to finish. It just is like, I don't know, anyways,
- 25:13Speaker 1: I really went I really went hard there for a
- 25:16Speaker 1: little bit. And probably some of.
- 25:17Speaker 3: That nobody you've explained it good because I had the question, right.
- 25:22Speaker 1: I know, but it like I was, like, this is
- 25:24Speaker 1: totally off book. I have so much here, but like
- 25:27Speaker 1: I just I found it so interesting watching that and
- 25:31Speaker 1: then like the tie in with this, I can't I
- 25:33Speaker 1: can't help myself. I don't know how to shut up.
- 25:35Speaker 1: It's not in the script, but here we are.
- 25:38Speaker 2: That's okay.
- 25:40Speaker 1: The couple had two children together, both sadly dying in infancy.
- 25:47Speaker 2: Oh oh god.
- 25:50Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of infant death.
- 25:53Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, on that time. Mm hmm.
- 25:58Speaker 1: I think between the two famis that were kind of
- 26:01Speaker 1: focusing on, like the two kind of main pillar women
- 26:06Speaker 1: of these stories, I think they have a combined like
- 26:10Speaker 1: at least six infant deaths between the two of them.
- 26:15Speaker 2: Why babies, I know.
- 26:18Speaker 1: Very very sad. That's why I guess a lot of
- 26:21Speaker 1: times they would hold off on naming babies until they
- 26:27Speaker 1: or they would give them like a placeholder name. Yeah,
- 26:31Speaker 1: Like they wouldn't give them like the you wouldn't become like,
- 26:36Speaker 1: oh I'm John's son, you wouldn't become John junior until you, like,
- 26:40Speaker 1: you know, prove that you weren't just gonna die of
- 26:42Speaker 1: dysentery immediately. Yeah, Or they would name more than one boy,
- 26:49Speaker 1: John right, because that's the namesake.
- 26:53Speaker 2: Like God, you get one of them to stick.
- 26:55Speaker 1: Jesus just so dark. According to the roughly three hundred
- 27:01Speaker 1: year old court and church records, Patients told people, including
- 27:06Speaker 1: her husband and later even the authorities, that she had
- 27:11Speaker 1: thoughts of murdering both children before they were even born,
- 27:16Speaker 1: though authorities declined to act on her confession for lack
- 27:20Speaker 1: of any evidence that a crime had actually occurred. Twice
- 27:25Speaker 1: twice they said, she's confessed and there's no evidence twice.
- 27:30Speaker 1: In fact, it was clear that she blamed herself for
- 27:34Speaker 1: their deaths, which is rooted in the Puritan religion and
- 27:41Speaker 1: culture of the period. Bad things happened for a reason,
- 27:46Speaker 1: because you're a goddamn sinner. That's terrible, really awful.
- 27:51Speaker 2: But she said that she had thoughts of harming.
- 27:54Speaker 1: Them, of killing them before they were even born.
- 27:58Speaker 2: I mean, that's rough mental health stuff right there.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, nailed it. It's gonna come back. Perhaps that
- 28:07Speaker 1: explains her insistence and the eventual charge for their second
- 28:12Speaker 1: child's death. While in jail awaiting trial, she became afraid
- 28:17Speaker 1: of dying with what she called a lie in my mouth.
- 28:22Speaker 1: This led to her eventually changing her plea to not guilty,
- 28:26Speaker 1: and the court actually acquitted her. It's possible that postpartum depression,
- 28:31Speaker 1: complex trauma from a lifetime of forced removal and servitude
- 28:36Speaker 1: as a child, an undiagnosed mental health crisis, or some
- 28:40Speaker 1: combination that honestly none of us are going to be
- 28:43Speaker 1: able to readily name or understand from the distance of
- 28:50Speaker 1: literal centuries later. It's possible that those were contributing factors,
- 28:55Speaker 1: and her bizarre documented pattern of false self accusation occurring
- 29:00Speaker 1: years before the actual crime she would ultimately undeniably commit.
- 29:08Speaker 1: Oh shit, oh shit. After her acquittal, Patience left her
- 29:13Speaker 1: husband and asked to be bound instead to a man
- 29:17Speaker 1: named Joseph Bailey of Casco Bay. It seems almost unfathomable
- 29:23Speaker 1: Patients essentially chose her own next master, rather than remaining
- 29:28Speaker 1: with the husband that she literally married and had bound
- 29:32Speaker 1: herself to up to that point. While in Bailey's household,
- 29:36Speaker 1: Patients confessed to murdering a third child. Authorities took this
- 29:42Speaker 1: confession seriously enough and did investigate. Though midwives examined her
- 29:47Speaker 1: and searchers looked for a grave, ultimately they found nothing because,
- 29:52Speaker 1: as it turned out, the child had never existed at all.
- 29:57Speaker 3: Oh, I was thinking maybe she had like a miscaracter something, which.
- 30:01Speaker 1: Would also be another lovely parallel to modern day America.
- 30:07Speaker 2: Right, it's not murder if you have a miscarriage.
- 30:10Speaker 1: It certainly isn't hot take. I don't whoo call us
- 30:15Speaker 1: two hot takes. This is yet another documented instance of
- 30:20Speaker 1: patients confessing to a murder that she did not commit,
- 30:24Speaker 1: that literally did not happen, and it raises the same
- 30:28Speaker 1: unanswerable questions as the first. I mean, what was actually
- 30:34Speaker 1: happening inside this woman's mind in a world with absolutely
- 30:38Speaker 1: no framework, no vocabulary, and no compassion available to even
- 30:44Speaker 1: ask or question seriously, like what is going on in
- 30:48Speaker 1: your mind? Like? Yeah, it's so sad to look back
- 30:52Speaker 1: on cases like this and just see these stunningly clear
- 30:56Speaker 1: examples of like this is some sort of you know,
- 31:01Speaker 1: mental health issue that's present, and it doesn't take away
- 31:06Speaker 1: from obviously the eventual crime. But it's like, Yo, she's
- 31:11Speaker 1: been confessing to murder for like years at this point.
- 31:15Speaker 2: Yeah help her.
- 31:17Speaker 1: Yeah they couldn't.
- 31:20Speaker 2: I know, there wasn't the tools.
- 31:23Speaker 1: There's nothing Joseph Bailey for reasons, the record doesn't actually specify,
- 31:30Speaker 1: but can probably be guessed. Eventually sold Patience's contract for
- 31:36Speaker 1: her indentured servitude to another master, and that's the household
- 31:41Speaker 1: where the story turns from false confession to real tragedy.
- 31:47Speaker 1: Patience was eventually transferred to the household of Benjamin's skill
- 31:52Speaker 1: Ins in York. Also living in the same household was
- 31:56Speaker 1: his eight year old grandson, Benjamin Trott. Basically, he was
- 32:01Speaker 1: being raised like he was Benjamin Senior's own son. Not
- 32:06Speaker 1: exactly sure what the circumstances were that brought that about,
- 32:10Speaker 1: but it's kind of cute. Benjamin being raised by his grandpa.
- 32:15Speaker 1: Also Benjamin Benjamin Troll. Benjamin Troll. Patients stated both that
- 32:23Speaker 1: she grew to love the young boy and vice versa,
- 32:27Speaker 1: while also developing some, as she put it, groundless prejudice
- 32:32Speaker 1: against the senior Benjamin. In time, the latter instinct seems
- 32:38Speaker 1: to have won. In the fall of seventeen thirty three,
- 32:43Speaker 1: in her own words, she bound herself by a wicked
- 32:48Speaker 1: oath ooh to kill Skillen's grandson. No, the contradiction of
- 32:57Speaker 1: her clearly stated pre medic intent to kill a child
- 33:02Speaker 1: she also described as loving is kind of the dark
- 33:06Speaker 1: center of this case.
- 33:09Speaker 3: Yeah, this makes like no sense so far right. I
- 33:14Speaker 3: don't know if you're going to make it make sense.
- 33:18Speaker 1: I mean, unfortunately in cases of child murder, I feel
- 33:21Speaker 1: like you can't really make it make sense.
- 33:24Speaker 2: Yeah, there ain't no sense.
- 33:27Speaker 1: Ain't no sense in that. On July ninth, seventeen thirty four,
- 33:33Speaker 1: while both mister and Missus Skillens were away from home,
- 33:36Speaker 1: patients lured the boy out into the woods. She intended
- 33:41Speaker 1: to beat him over the head with a large stick,
- 33:44Speaker 1: but as she attempted to do so, she started trembling
- 33:48Speaker 1: and she just kind of lost her nerve.
- 33:50Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're trying to kill a kid that you love.
- 33:56Speaker 1: Why would for some reason with a stick?
- 34:00Speaker 2: Oh God.
- 34:01Speaker 1: She decided instead to drop the stick into a well nearby,
- 34:08Speaker 1: asking Benjamin to climb down and retrieve.
- 34:11Speaker 2: It for her. I don't this is the worst birthday
- 34:14Speaker 2: gift you've ever given me.
- 34:16Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
- 34:17Speaker 2: I'm not happy with you.
- 34:19Speaker 1: I know, I'm gonnat you. I'm gonna fix this, Okay,
- 34:22Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it better. I don't believe you, I promise.
- 34:27Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna mute you for the rest of the.
- 34:30Speaker 1: Wow.
- 34:31Speaker 2: Rude, I don't want to Okay, go do it. Rip
- 34:35Speaker 2: off the band dude.
- 34:36Speaker 1: All right, it's gonna get Game of Thrones here for
- 34:39Speaker 1: a sec. Only when he reached the edge, she just
- 34:44Speaker 1: pushed him in. She used a long pole to hold
- 34:49Speaker 1: him under the water within the well until he drowned.
- 34:55Speaker 1: I didn't realize how dark this crime was, but the
- 35:00Speaker 1: fact that these two stories that we're talking about today
- 35:04Speaker 1: have the connection to July ninth. I was like, listen,
- 35:08Speaker 1: who am I to tell the universe?
- 35:11Speaker 2: Nah?
- 35:12Speaker 1: I don't wanna.
- 35:13Speaker 2: I would. I don't want this to be in my mind.
- 35:19Speaker 1: I know well, regardless of the day that it happened on,
- 35:23Speaker 1: it was going to be in your mind, because you
- 35:25Speaker 1: know through crime and all that what happened immediately afterward
- 35:30Speaker 1: is recorded with unusual specificity for a case. This old
- 35:36Speaker 1: Patience raised her hands to the sky and said, now
- 35:41Speaker 1: I am guilty of murder. Indeed, though formerly I accused
- 35:45Speaker 1: myself falsely, yet now God has left me. Afterwards, she
- 35:52Speaker 1: walked to a neighboring house about two miles away. She
- 35:56Speaker 1: confessed what she had done and turned herself in.
- 36:02Speaker 2: Just so so strange, my mouth is just open.
- 36:06Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, oh man, Patience was arrested and remained
- 36:12Speaker 1: in York's Old Jail, Old Gail Jail for roughly a year.
- 36:19Speaker 1: As she awaited her trial. She was visited dozens of
- 36:22Speaker 1: times by the Reverend Samuel Moody and his son, the
- 36:27Speaker 1: Reverend Joseph Moody, pastors of York's Church. Perhaps as a
- 36:33Speaker 1: result of their visits, Patience seems to have experienced a
- 36:37Speaker 1: spiritual transformation. Something seems to have genuinely shifted in Patience.
- 36:44Speaker 1: During that year, she read scripture, and after years of
- 36:49Speaker 1: drinking quite heavily, she found sobriety.
- 36:52Speaker 2: Well that's great.
- 36:54Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine that you have a
- 36:57Speaker 1: choice in beverage when you're in prison, so right, some
- 37:01Speaker 1: of that may not necessarily have been my choice. Hard
- 37:04Speaker 1: to say.
- 37:05Speaker 2: There could be toilet wine, could.
- 37:07Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly, she refused it. Yeah, that's what I Yeah,
- 37:13Speaker 1: as I feel one perhaps should maybe decline. And this
- 37:20Speaker 1: part it's sort of a double edged sword because the
- 37:24Speaker 1: implications are a little bit dark. She also gave birth
- 37:30Speaker 1: to a child while in custody, a boy who at
- 37:34Speaker 1: one point fell dangerously ill with a fever. Patients admitted
- 37:39Speaker 1: to a dark thought in that moment that it might
- 37:41Speaker 1: be better if God willed it for the child to
- 37:44Speaker 1: die before she did. Instead, she asked the congregation to
- 37:49Speaker 1: pray for him, and he recovered oh records never name
- 37:54Speaker 1: his father. And when I say there's kind of a
- 37:59Speaker 1: double edge soared with that, it's like, well, either she
- 38:05Speaker 1: was impregnated by someone before she went to prison. I
- 38:08Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not digging into the timeline on this
- 38:13Speaker 1: that deep. There wasn't enough information about that. Or she
- 38:18Speaker 1: was impregnated while she was in prison, which is completely
- 38:23Speaker 1: plausible based on what I do know about the timeline
- 38:30Speaker 1: and also about incarceration for women, you know, just for
- 38:35Speaker 1: the last three hundred years.
- 38:37Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking.
- 38:38Speaker 1: That's terrible, possibly terrible. I don't it's hard to say.
- 38:44Speaker 1: So this is kind of a weird, kind of a
- 38:48Speaker 1: weird little aside that I almost just completely left out
- 38:52Speaker 1: of my notes. But it's so weird that I was like,
- 38:56Speaker 1: I think we have to.
- 38:57Speaker 2: Have that, okay, I like a weird fact.
- 39:00Speaker 1: Joseph Moody, the younger minister who helped compile her story,
- 39:05Speaker 1: he began a strange practice around the same time that
- 39:10Speaker 1: he was finishing it. He started wearing a black veil
- 39:14Speaker 1: over his face, refusing to remove it except when alone
- 39:17Speaker 1: or facing a wall, and apparently this was a habit
- 39:21Speaker 1: he kept for the rest of his life. History remembers
- 39:24Speaker 1: him today as Handkerchief Moody what in the world hu,
- 39:31Speaker 1: and he is the direct historical inspiration for Nathaniel Hawthorne's
- 39:35Speaker 1: short story The Minister's Black Veil. It's a strange footnote
- 39:41Speaker 1: in the case, but a true one.
- 39:44Speaker 2: I mean, you do you But that's fucking weird.
- 39:47Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, do you think she got to him? Like
- 39:52Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what, like like I
- 39:57Speaker 1: don't know, and like, yeah, it's very weird. It's just
- 40:03Speaker 1: it's bizarred.
- 40:04Speaker 3: I'm just gonna do that. Then we can do video again. Oh,
- 40:10Speaker 3: I'll just wear my black veil.
- 40:11Speaker 1: A veil, yeah, why not? Just having a goth moment.
- 40:19Speaker 1: Patience went to trial on June nineteenth, seventeen thirty five.
- 40:24Speaker 1: Pleading guilty. The judge sentenced her to hang July twenty fourth,
- 40:32Speaker 1: seventeen thirty five. On the morning of her execution. Oddly,
- 40:37Speaker 1: Patience reportedly slept very well the night before, not the
- 40:41Speaker 1: vibe I would have, but it's your last sleep. I yeah,
- 40:46Speaker 1: you know. Before the big long sleep. She described having
- 40:51Speaker 1: in her own words, a more realizing sense of death
- 40:55Speaker 1: and some fears, but her hopes were above her fears.
- 41:01Speaker 3: Do you think she was just suicidal like I and
- 41:05Speaker 3: she just you know how people like suicide by cop
- 41:08Speaker 3: or whatever, but they're you know, maybe that was like her.
- 41:11Speaker 1: I don't know her way. I mean, all of this
- 41:15Speaker 1: is so strange. It's anything's possible in my book, to
- 41:19Speaker 1: be honest, there's certain things that I feel like we
- 41:22Speaker 1: can point to and say, like, Okay, well I think
- 41:27Speaker 1: like I can make some assumptions or you know, yeah,
- 41:31Speaker 1: some inferences, but like it's just bizarre. It's just bizarre.
- 41:37Speaker 1: She prayed with several ministers that morning, but when the
- 41:40Speaker 1: time came, it was quite hard for her to part
- 41:43Speaker 1: with her infant son, who'd been born there in the jail.
- 41:48Speaker 2: Yeah, which is just really.
- 41:50Speaker 1: Sad for so many reasons, but just to think about
- 41:54Speaker 1: like that is, you know, the only living child that
- 41:58Speaker 1: she had to that point. When the sheriff arrived, patients
- 42:03Speaker 1: asked for a few more minutes alone. Then she emerged
- 42:07Speaker 1: from her cell and said, simply, I am ready. She
- 42:12Speaker 1: walked calmly to the cart that would carry her to
- 42:15Speaker 1: the gallows, where a noose hung from a sturdy tree limb,
- 42:19Speaker 1: and hundreds of people had gathered to watch, because that
- 42:24Speaker 1: was what people did back then.
- 42:26Speaker 2: Yeah, that's.
- 42:29Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I get it. There's nothing on TV.
- 42:33Speaker 2: Back then, I was thinking that there was no Game
- 42:35Speaker 2: of Thrones.
- 42:37Speaker 1: Yep.
- 42:37Speaker 2: Now we just watch fake deaths on TV.
- 42:40Speaker 1: Yeah. A minister read from scripture to the assembled crowd.
- 42:45Speaker 1: Then Patience herself stood and spoke, declaring her love of God,
- 42:51Speaker 1: asking mercy for her sins, praying for the child that
- 42:54Speaker 1: she was now leaving behind, and then turning to the
- 42:58Speaker 1: crowd itself to pray for them that they would take
- 43:02Speaker 1: warning from her life and be aware, especially the sin
- 43:07Speaker 1: of drunkenness, which she clearly believed had played its own
- 43:12Speaker 1: role in everything that led her there.
- 43:15Speaker 2: Oh shit.
- 43:16Speaker 1: Patience Boston, just twenty three years old, was hanged at
- 43:20Speaker 1: York on July twenty fourth, seventeen thirty five. Before her death,
- 43:26Speaker 1: she was assured her child had been placed with a
- 43:29Speaker 1: family who would care for both his body and soul.
- 43:34Speaker 1: Patience's story didn't end with her execution. It became something else,
- 43:39Speaker 1: entirely in the hands of the people who outlived her.
- 43:43Speaker 1: In seventeen thirty five, around the time of her death,
- 43:46Speaker 1: a short pamphlet was published, the Confession Declaration, Dying, Warning
- 43:53Speaker 1: and Advice of Patience Samson alias Patience Boston. Then in
- 44:01Speaker 1: seventeen thirty eight, the Moody's published a much longer and
- 44:05Speaker 1: more elaborate work, and the title is half a paragraph,
- 44:11Speaker 1: Oh Sure, Deep Breath. A faithful narrative of the wicked
- 44:18Speaker 1: life and remarkable conversion of Patients Boston alias Sampson. It
- 44:25Speaker 1: belongs to his genre historians call gallows literature, narratives assembled
- 44:31Speaker 1: by Puritan clergy from the words of condemned prisoners, intended
- 44:36Speaker 1: less to document the facts of a crime than to use,
- 44:40Speaker 1: shall we say, a sinner's spiritual journey toward repentance as
- 44:45Speaker 1: a lesson for the living.
- 44:47Speaker 2: I thought, I thought that's where it was going. Yeah, yeah,
- 44:51Speaker 2: it's still kind of cool. Though.
- 44:53Speaker 1: I do think it's cool, and I do think that
- 44:55Speaker 1: is still kind of a service to those individuals in
- 45:01Speaker 1: a way, if that's something that they respond to, and
- 45:05Speaker 1: you know, perhaps also to the broader community. I wish
- 45:09Speaker 1: it maybe wasn't tied to like organize religion specifically, but
- 45:14Speaker 1: like beggars can't be choosers, right, So the version of
- 45:20Speaker 1: Patients Boston that has survived through this work is filtered
- 45:25Speaker 1: and shaped by two Puritan ministers with their own theological agenda,
- 45:31Speaker 1: men who were, by the era's own standards, more interested
- 45:35Speaker 1: in her conversion than in her guilt, or her innocence
- 45:38Speaker 1: or any of the conditions in her life. Patience Boston
- 45:44Speaker 1: really did kill an eight year old boy. There's no
- 45:48Speaker 1: ambiguity about that specific fact, and Benjamin Trott deserves to
- 45:53Speaker 1: be remembered as a real child with a life cut short,
- 45:58Speaker 1: not just a supporting detail and someone else's tragic narrative.
- 46:03Speaker 1: But I mean, god damn, in a very real way.
- 46:07Speaker 1: They very much are both victims. She just also happens
- 46:13Speaker 1: to be a perpetrator.
- 46:14Speaker 3: Of violence, which happens a lot. I mean, it does,
- 46:18Speaker 3: I feel like probably most of the time.
- 46:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, I would argue, yes, I have
- 46:26Speaker 1: observed a pattern, shall we say, in the last handful
- 46:30Speaker 1: of years. And at the same time, Patience's documented history
- 46:36Speaker 1: of multiple separate false confessions to murders that never happened
- 46:42Speaker 1: involving infants preceding the one murder she actually committed is
- 46:48Speaker 1: the kind of pattern that in any modern court would
- 46:52Speaker 1: trigger a serious psychiatric evaluation before anyone moved toward a verdict,
- 46:58Speaker 1: let alone a death sentence. But obviously that wasn't happening
- 47:02Speaker 1: in seventeen thirty five. No, there was no language at
- 47:07Speaker 1: the time for what we would describe now as potentially
- 47:13Speaker 1: postpartum psychosis, complex trauma, or the cumulative psychological toll of
- 47:20Speaker 1: a childhood spent, indentured, orphaned, and passed between households that
- 47:26Speaker 1: held all of the legal power over her existence with
- 47:31Speaker 1: no say on her part. There was only sin, confession
- 47:36Speaker 1: and the gallows. This is also, unavoidably a story about
- 47:41Speaker 1: whose voice gets preserved and whose doesn't.
- 47:46Speaker 2: Ooh part two, Part two?
- 47:51Speaker 1: Yeah, because I said there's two stories.
- 47:54Speaker 2: Oh is this just one episode?
- 47:56Speaker 3: Though?
- 47:56Speaker 2: Right? It is? Yeah? Okay.
- 47:59Speaker 1: In August eighteen o five, Captain James Purenton, a handsome
- 48:05Speaker 1: revolutionary war veteran and well regarded farmer said to be
- 48:09Speaker 1: of good character, moved his family to a Ballard neighborhood
- 48:14Speaker 1: just outside Augusta, Originally known to the area's native inhabitants
- 48:20Speaker 1: as Kushnak. Augusta had grown from a fur trading post
- 48:25Speaker 1: on the Kennebec River into a small but established town.
- 48:30Speaker 1: Maine was still not yet a state. She's out there
- 48:36Speaker 1: fighting the good fight. Though it remained part of Massachusetts
- 48:40Speaker 1: and wouldn't receive statehood for another fourteen years.
- 48:45Speaker 3: It was part of Massachusetts. Wow, apparently I don't think
- 48:49Speaker 3: I knew that.
- 48:50Speaker 1: I didn't either. Over the following winter and spring, Purenton
- 48:55Speaker 1: family settled in The Captain's wife, Elizabeth, known as Beth's
- 49:00Speaker 1: see Love, visited neighbors, trading herbs and other goods, quickly
- 49:08Speaker 1: becoming part of the fabric of their new small community.
- 49:12Speaker 1: As soon as I read trading herbs and stuff, I
- 49:15Speaker 1: was like, this, bitch sounds kind of witchy.
- 49:19Speaker 3: Oh, I was thinking, she's drug dealer. What kind of herb?
- 49:25Speaker 3: You trading their bits?
- 49:27Speaker 1: Listen, I'm just saying, technically, this is still part of messages.
- 49:31Speaker 1: That's why I think witchy.
- 49:33Speaker 2: I think, yeah, No, you're ray. I'm just a pie head.
- 49:38Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. Hey, listen, two things can be true.
- 49:43Speaker 1: Herb means a lot of things to a lot of
- 49:45Speaker 1: different people. One neighbor, Martha Ballard, a midwife in her
- 49:50Speaker 1: seventies that had delivered hundreds of babies all over the
- 49:55Speaker 1: valley for four decades kept a diary and it's actually
- 49:59Speaker 1: like a pretty important historical document.
- 50:03Speaker 2: WHOA. I love that.
- 50:05Speaker 1: Like, her diaries are like kind of a big deal.
- 50:11Speaker 1: The entries throughout the winter and spring of eighteen oh
- 50:14Speaker 1: six are full of small, ordinary contact, Like all of
- 50:18Speaker 1: these details about interacting with the Puritan family, Missus Puringon
- 50:24Speaker 1: stopping by for tea young poly Purenton coming for herbs
- 50:29Speaker 1: for her ailing mother, even Captain Purington himself once walking
- 50:35Speaker 1: Martha home after a difficult birth late at night in May.
- 50:40Speaker 2: Wow, she like wrote all this shit down.
- 50:42Speaker 1: Yeah, she wrote a lot of shit down. I found
- 50:46Speaker 1: all of these really interesting, like little quoted sections of
- 50:49Speaker 1: her diaries, and I was like, bitch, we gotta pick
- 50:52Speaker 1: and choose. Like I started out where I was like, oh,
- 50:57Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that one, and I'm like, oh boy,
- 50:59Speaker 1: we gotta we got to get real. And they're all
- 51:03Speaker 1: just like a lot of them are so wholesome. Even
- 51:06Speaker 1: the entries that aren't strictly speaking wholesome, maybe they're just
- 51:11Speaker 1: so earnest. I feel like I know her now. Martha's
- 51:15Speaker 1: my bitch Martha. But by the summer of eighteen oh six,
- 51:20Speaker 1: something had changed. The Purentan family's entire crop for the
- 51:25Speaker 1: season was threatened by severe drought. And I mean, I'm
- 51:29Speaker 1: sure they weren't the only ones, because drought tends to
- 51:32Speaker 1: kind of affect everybody, right, but they're who we're talking about.
- 51:37Speaker 1: So the family's household of eight living children ranging from
- 51:42Speaker 1: eighteen months to nineteen years old roughly.
- 51:46Speaker 2: Holy shit, Yeah, that's a range.
- 51:50Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's what we gather kind of from,
- 51:53Speaker 1: like the historical records. There's a lot of sources that
- 51:56Speaker 1: have like kind of slightly differing ages for different kids
- 52:00Speaker 1: in the family. And I'm like, listen, they had basically
- 52:03Speaker 1: from toddlers to tiaras and then to teenagers and young adults.
- 52:10Speaker 2: And that's just living children. So how I wonder how
- 52:12Speaker 2: many they had?
- 52:14Speaker 1: At least four children that died in infancy. Oh wow,
- 52:19Speaker 1: And that was before they moved. The family's household of
- 52:23Speaker 1: eight living children, ranging from eighteen months to nineteen years old,
- 52:27Speaker 1: dependent on the farm for survival. The financial pressure was
- 52:33Speaker 1: real and immediate, Like, if we don't have enough food
- 52:37Speaker 1: that our farm is producing, we will not make it
- 52:40Speaker 1: through the winter. Captain Puringon had told neighbors he was
- 52:45Speaker 1: concerned about the state of his farm, worried he might
- 52:49Speaker 1: soon be unable to provide food for his family or
- 52:53Speaker 1: even their livestock. On a Sunday in early July, Purenton
- 52:58Speaker 1: wrote a letter and seal it in black with a
- 53:01Speaker 1: death's head drawn on it, which is essentially like a
- 53:05Speaker 1: skull in crossbones situation. Okay, yeah, Inside he wrote instructions
- 53:12Speaker 1: for his children's futures, as if he would not be
- 53:15Speaker 1: alive to provide for them himself. And this is from
- 53:20Speaker 1: the letter. I cannot see the distress of my family.
- 53:24Speaker 1: God only knows my distress. I would have you put
- 53:28Speaker 1: Nathaniel to Uncle Purrenton, to a tanner's trade. I want
- 53:32Speaker 1: James to go to school until sufficient to attend in
- 53:36Speaker 1: a store, Benjamin, to a blacksmith's trade, or to what
- 53:40Speaker 1: you think best, but to be sure to give them learning.
- 53:44Speaker 1: If it takes all, divide what is left for I
- 53:48Speaker 1: am no more.
- 53:50Speaker 2: Ooh, that's so ominous, like a suicide note.
- 53:54Speaker 1: Yeah, and it definitely could read that way. For sure,
- 53:58Speaker 1: It definitely read that way to me at first. His
- 54:01Speaker 1: wife Betsy found the letter the following day, Monday, and
- 54:06Speaker 1: confronted him. Uh, because you know, she had, of course assumed,
- 54:10Speaker 1: like you said, that he meant to die by suicide,
- 54:14Speaker 1: but he told her that she had it all wrong,
- 54:17Speaker 1: and she's like, uh, pray I do, because if you
- 54:21Speaker 1: saddle me with all of these fucking kids.
- 54:24Speaker 2: Alone, yeah seriously, you.
- 54:29Speaker 1: Know she said something like that, but like it was
- 54:32Speaker 1: more like, uh puritanically, yeah, you know.
- 54:36Speaker 2: And then just leave a note telling me what to
- 54:38Speaker 2: do with all of them, like.
- 54:40Speaker 1: Well, and yeah, you'll note that.
- 54:43Speaker 3: Uh.
- 54:43Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe the source that I found
- 54:47Speaker 1: didn't have all of the note transcribe, but you will
- 54:52Speaker 1: notice that, uh, he only mentions, let's see one, two,
- 54:57Speaker 1: three children. The boys.
- 55:01Speaker 3: Oh well, the girls have obvious futures. They just need
- 55:05Speaker 3: to get married, right, marry them off to the richest bidder.
- 55:09Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, highest bidder, yeah, highest bidder. Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
- 55:14Speaker 1: Rather than intending to kill himself, he said he was
- 55:19Speaker 1: simply taking precautions as a result of a premonition of
- 55:24Speaker 1: his death approaching. He's like, I'm not gonna kill myself.
- 55:28Speaker 1: I just I just know that, like I'm gonna die
- 55:32Speaker 1: and like pretty soon.
- 55:34Speaker 2: I mean, no, how old was he How long do
- 55:37Speaker 2: people live back then? I don't know.
- 55:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it seems plausible at any rate. Betsy,
- 55:44Speaker 1: she was inconsolable either way. She's thinking, my husband is
- 55:48Speaker 1: having a premonition about his like approaching death just you know,
- 55:53Speaker 1: right around the corner. And then uh, you know, the
- 55:56Speaker 1: other possibility is uh or or you know, he's planning
- 56:00Speaker 1: to off himself. So really, for a woman in her circumstances,
- 56:05Speaker 1: neither is preferable. Whatever happened in the days between Betsy's
- 56:10Speaker 1: confrontation and the night of July eighth, we have no
- 56:16Speaker 1: further record of, no diary entry, no surviving conversation. Kind
- 56:23Speaker 1: of the only blank spot July eighth is sort of
- 56:26Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's like a little there's a little
- 56:28Speaker 1: bit of information, but not a lot. It's just the
- 56:31Speaker 1: outcome and a letter that reads less like a man
- 56:35Speaker 1: planning murder than a man planning his own absence. Like
- 56:40Speaker 1: it kind of does sound like he thinks he's gonna die. Yeah,
- 56:44Speaker 1: he's giving instructions for what to do, you know, for
- 56:48Speaker 1: the future of their boys. On the evening of July eighth,
- 56:53Speaker 1: eighteen oh six, Captain purrenton ground, his axe sharpened. It
- 56:58Speaker 1: feels very deliberate ahead of whatever it is that he
- 57:02Speaker 1: has planned here. After his wife and children went to bed,
- 57:06Speaker 1: he stayed up alone reading the Bible. His conduct and
- 57:10Speaker 1: demeanor had remained calm all day and into the night,
- 57:14Speaker 1: but then sometime between two and three in the morning,
- 57:18Speaker 1: he moved through the house with the axe. James Purrenton
- 57:22Speaker 1: Junior woke to the sound of his mother screaming. He
- 57:27Speaker 1: ran toward the noise and found his father standing with
- 57:31Speaker 1: a bloodied axe. Purenton swung at his own son, striking
- 57:37Speaker 1: him across the back, but James Junior managed to escape,
- 57:43Speaker 1: fleeing the house in nothing but his shirt.
- 57:46Speaker 2: Holy shit.
- 57:47Speaker 1: He ran to the home of neighbor Dean Wyman and
- 57:50Speaker 1: raised the alarm. Wyman immediately ran for help to Jonas Ballard,
- 57:58Speaker 1: Martha the midwife's son. Small town pretty prey knows, you
- 58:03Speaker 1: know a lot of the same last names floating around
- 58:07Speaker 1: here books. The two men went to the Puritan house
- 58:11Speaker 1: together to find Elizabeth and six of the children's lane.
- 58:17Speaker 1: Oh god, only one child was carried back to the
- 58:22Speaker 1: Ballard house, where surgical aid was called. There was a
- 58:27Speaker 1: quote from her diary about how she had breath left.
- 58:32Speaker 1: That was the one that you know they're trying to
- 58:36Speaker 1: save it just oh it just it gave me chills.
- 58:40Speaker 1: Captain Purrington himself lay on the floor of the outer room,
- 58:45Speaker 1: his throat cut with a razor, dead by his own hand.
- 58:49Speaker 2: Jesus, fuck, dude, couldn't you've just done that? Yeah?
- 58:54Speaker 3: I hate I hate murder suicide. People like just fucking
- 58:58Speaker 3: kill yourself.
- 58:59Speaker 1: Yeah. Family annihilators are like, I don't want to sound
- 59:03Speaker 1: crazy here, but they are a huge fucking bummer. Martha
- 59:08Speaker 1: Ballard and her husband walked to the Purenton house themselves
- 59:12Speaker 1: before sunrise. That next morning. The bodies of the deceased
- 59:16Speaker 1: Purenton family were carried to Jonas Ballard's barn, washed and
- 59:21Speaker 1: laid out side by side. Martha Ballard wrote that many
- 59:26Speaker 1: hundreds of persons came to behold the scene, a detail
- 59:30Speaker 1: that captures something kind of important about how this tragedy
- 59:35Speaker 1: was experienced by their broader community. It's not just, you know,
- 59:41Speaker 1: this private tragedy and grief, but it's kind of a
- 59:45Speaker 1: mass public event and almost immediately. I mean again, it's
- 59:52Speaker 1: a very small town, even kind of by eighteen oh
- 59:56Speaker 1: six terms, so everybody knew each other. This is I mean,
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: it's got to be devastating for a lot of people
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: that knew this family. Martha Purenton, the daughter, pulled from
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: the house, still breathing, lingered at the Ballard house for
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: roughly three weeks under Martha Ballard's own care. Sadly, she
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: died at three am on July thirtieth, eighteen oh six.
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: That's the death that was on my due date. And
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: I was like, shit, this has kind of a weird
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: link to both of these synchronicities with important dates in
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: our lives.
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, poor baby, I know.
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: But I mean, god, those three weeks were probably so horrific.
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: Martha Ballard recorded the moment in her diary in exactly
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: those terms. Martha Purenton expired, and she's got it in
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: kind of old timey shorthand, but at three am, essentially
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: what it says. The funeral took place the following day,
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: on July tenth, Reverend mister Stone offered a prayer, and
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: a reverend mister Taylor delivered a sermon drawn from Proverbs
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: twenty five twenty eight. He that hath no rule over
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: his own spirit is like a city broken down and
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: without walls. Given what the town had just witnessed, I
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: feel like that that particular I'm not a fan strictly
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: speaking of scripture, but that one kind of feels like
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: it makes sense.
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: Yeah, it does.
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: Martha Ballard described a genuinely staggering public turnout. A stage
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: was erected in front of the meetinghouse, the surrounding houses
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: were crowded with onlookers, the street was packed, and in
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: her own words, ye, tops of buildings covered with peace people.
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: Wow, that's where i'd want to be.
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in a way, you know, they're just
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: the reverence and respect that you know, was inherent in
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: society at that point. It makes sense. And it was
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: such a small town, but you know, for a town
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: of Augustus size in eighteen oh six, it was such
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: a monumental event. It was an event on a scale
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: that nothing else that most of them had seen, certainly recently,
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: if ever, would have matched it.
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: It just and they can't go home and like watch
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: it on TV.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: Yeah, true, there is nothing on TV. Captain Purington's body
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: was laid out in the porch of the meetinghouse, separated
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: from his family. I mean kind of significant. I mean yeah,
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: literally physically denied entry into the building where his family was,
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: you know, for lack of a better term displayed.
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: I think that's fitting.
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: The axe and razor he had used were displayed on
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: top of his coffin.
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: Oh yikes.
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: His wife and six children's remains were laid in the
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: aisle inside. The funeral procession crossed the Kennebec Bridge, turned
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: up the hill, came down Second Street, passed the jail,
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: and arrived at the burial ground where Elizabeth and her
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: children were buried together. James Purenton was interred separately outside
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: the consecrated cemetery walls ha his murder weapons buried alongside him.
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: WHOA, yeah, they.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: Were big into symbolism. Apparently. A coroner's story of eleven
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: local men, with John Evelyth serving as foreman, formally found
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: that Purenton had end quote of his mallee a forethought,
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: murdered his wife and children that he had as a
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: felon quote voluntarily killed and murdered himself. That second part
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: feels a little redundant. But for three weeks, as we know,
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: Martha Purenton clung to life at the Ballard house. Martha
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: Ballard's diary tracks her decline almost literally, like, if not
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: hour by hour, day by day. Her funeral took place
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: two days later, on August first, which, as you certainly
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: and maybe some people listening will recall, is my wedding anniversary.
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: So no one's getting out of this unscathed.
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: Geez dude.
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: It's just weird, like all of these important dates. And
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: I picked them because I was like, oh, what if
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: I did something?
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: Be me?
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the theme got really out of control.
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: Okay, next year for my birthday.
- 1:04:58Speaker 3: No murder, Okay, no sad child murders, even the worst
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: what's wrong with you?
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: I didn't think that they were. They didn't look that
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: bad with like the short summary when I first found
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: the cases and I was like, oh, it's our coin
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: toss city and it started cute anyway. Martha Ballard closed
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: her account of the entire ordeal with a line that
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: needs I would argue no embellishment. I attended the funeral
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: of Martha Purenton, who came to her end by the
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: wounds which her father gave her. Oh the dreadful scene.
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: Nearly two hundred and twenty years later, it's hard to
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: improve on that as a closing thought.
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: Oh the dreadful scene, Like seriously.
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: Yeah, sums it up.
- 1:05:53Speaker 2: Why did he write that letter? Then saying like what
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: to do with his kids. I don't.
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: That's kind of another parallel with both of these stories.
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: It's like these kind of inexplicable actions on the part
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: of the perpetrator. It's just like.
- 1:06:09Speaker 3: What maybe he was just like thinking that at first
- 1:06:12Speaker 3: he would just take himself out, and then he's like, eh,
- 1:06:15Speaker 3: why not just do them all?
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: I mean, maybe part of him thought that would be
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: cruel to abandon them. I don't know. Obviously, what he
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: did do was horrific. In the days that followed, survivors
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: and relatives of the Puritan family, James Junior and Hezekiah,
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: Captain Purrington's brother, boarded at the Ballard house while they
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: sort it through the wreckage of the family's affairs. Martha
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: Ballard herself helped prepare burial Linen's, carried supplies between households,
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: and continued tending to the dying Martha Purenton in her
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: own home. The same woman who had shared tea and
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: traded herbs with his family for my I mean, arguably,
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: like very close small town bonds, was now the one
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: washing their bodies and nursing the gravely injured child left
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: behind after the tragedy. James Junior, the family's only true
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: survivor chose Elias Craig, the same man who had served
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: as coroner, to be his legal guardian. Hezekiah Purenton was
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: made administrator of his late brother's estate. Record show Hezekiah
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: continued paying for James's board as late as July eighteen
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: oh seven, a full year after the murders. By eighteen eleven,
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: land records place James back in the family's hometown, the
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: one that they had left six years prior to everything
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: that had happened. There's no record of him ever marrying,
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: which is kind of sad because I feel like that's
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: unusual for the time.
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: I mean, he's got some trauma.
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: But lots of traumatized people still got married because that
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: was just what you did.
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: Within days, a broadside titled Horrid Murder was printed in
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: Augusta by local publisher Peter Eddies, A graphic, heavily bordered,
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: single page bulletin featuring woodcut images of coffins lined up
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: side by side by size, presumably representing the victims. The
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: story spread fast and far for pre telegraph era. It
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: reached newspapers along the entire East Coast and reportedly overseas
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: as well. The Portland Gazette ran its own account on
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: July fourteenth, just days after the murders. The leading popular
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: theory regarding the motive was hereditary insanity, of vague sort
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: of era appropriate term. It's a way of saying that
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: mental illness ran in Puritan's family, which actually several modern
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: accounts do confirm that was documented. Interesting others pointed to
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: religious confusion or fanaticism, though he was never explicitly described
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: as a religious extremist or a fanatic by anyone who
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: knew him. In fact, they said, like he was pretty
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: cash about like religion and spiritual beliefs and stuff.
- 1:09:38Speaker 2: So and like, why would that make you kill?
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: I mean it wouldn't be the first or the last,
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: but I.
- 1:09:45Speaker 3: Meant, like, other than for unless your whole family you
- 1:09:48Speaker 3: think is like sinners?
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: I guess right, which every I mean, Hey, the Puritans
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: thought everyone was a sinner and we were all just
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: seconds away from the burning hell fire.
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: But we're already there, yeah.
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: And there we are. Financial ruin from the drought is
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: the most consistently cited practical trigger, and it lines up
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: with Purenton's own documented fears about being able to provide
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: for his family and their future. This was not a
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: man who snapped in a single moment of rage. He
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: sharpened the acts ahead of time. I mean, within hours
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: of the murders. He sat reading scripture. By all appearances,
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: very calmly, very everything about his behavior was deliberate and
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: calm that day, that evening, while his family slept just
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: rooms away. The coroner's jury used the phrase malice a
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: forethought deliberately because it was premeditated. And I would say
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: that's one aspect of this case that feels pretty obvious
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: to me, just based on the information we have. The
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: honest answer regarding his motive then and now is that
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: no one really knows for certain. As one broadsheet from
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: the time concluded, we have no evidence to lead us
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: satisfactorily to the motives for this barbarous and unnatural deed.
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: Bars I believe the kids say. In twenty nineteen, the
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: Augusta Historic Preservation Commission located the actual site of the
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: Puritan family grave, long since unmarked, and placed a memorial
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: marker there, finally giving the victims a recognized resting place
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: nearly two and a half centuries after.
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: They were buried. Oh wow, I know, isn't that cool?
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: Local folklore has long claimed that Boden Bowdwin College secretly
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: exhumed Captain Purenton's body from his roadside grave for early
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: medical research, and that's obviously completely unconfirmed. It's a rumor. Honestly,
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: I kind of hope.
- 1:12:12Speaker 3: So though, right, that would be crazy, But like, if
- 1:12:15Speaker 3: you're going to exhume someone might as well be that guy.
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: I'm just saying, there's a song that says, give your
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: life to science, and you know, if the true fits
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: wear the shit out of it Cinderella, And then there's
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: the connection that gives this case it's real staying power.
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: Martha Ballard's superhistoric Diary and everything that came after it.
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: Over two centuries after she wrote those entries, Historian Laurel
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: Thatcher Ulrich used Ballard's diary as the foundation for A
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: Midwife's Tale, which won the Pulitzer Prize for History in
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one and was laid adapted into a PBS
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: American Experience documentary WHOA.
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: I want to watch it.
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: I know, isn't that cool? Can you imagine being a
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: midwife in the eighteen hundreds?
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: I can't imagine being one now in like oh no.
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: Like her career was like the seventeen fifty sixties to
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: like eighteen the early aughts of the eighteen hundreds, like
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: what an entire chapter of that book is devoted to
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: the Puritan murders. This small town main tragedy from eighteen
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: oh six has improbably already been the subject of serious
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: prize winning historic scholarship. That's kind of.
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: Cool, think goodness, she like kept such good diary entries.
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: Seriously though, Two families, two colonial Maine towns, seventy two
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: years apart on the same lie date. One story ends
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: with a native woman indentured and enslaved by circumstance, literally
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: walking two miles to confess what no one had caught
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: her doing. The other ends with a respected farmer who
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: planned his family's deaths for days, maybe weeks, while sharpening
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: in acts and reading scripture by candlelight. Both stories survived
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: because someone close to them wrote them down, and in
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: both cases it's worth asking who that someone was and
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: what they wanted the story to mean. Two ministers shaping
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: Patience Boston into a redemption narrative arc for their congregation.
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: A midwife grieving in literal real time writing down exactly
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: what she saw. Two very different kinds of witnesses, separated
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: by decades, seventy two years, still reaching us today. If
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: you're ever in Portland, Maine, our sibling city on the
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: other coast, York's Old Jail and the Puritan families marked
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: grave near Augusta are both still there, still standing, still
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: telling the same two stories they've been telling since seventeen
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: thirty four and eighteen o six.
- 1:15:23Speaker 2: The history Happy birthday, mey. I do love history, though,
- 1:15:30Speaker 2: so yeah, I like that part of it. But it's
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: just sad.
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: It's horrifically sad. I really truly did not know that
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: both of these cases were going to be quite as
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: heinous and dark as they were.
- 1:15:43Speaker 2: But the fact that.
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: Like, there's so many aspects of I mean, we talked
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: about like indigenous culture, we talked about like what slavery
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: and colonial times, what you know, these aspects of religion,
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: all of these different things that affected people living in
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: America in this like broad swath of almost one hundred years.
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: We covered a lot of ground, Yeah, we did. If
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: nothing else, Yeah, they're both really interesting cases. And I
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: did start to feel a little bit better when I
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: was personally victimized with you know, my own invent dates included.
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: So I just thought these are both such interesting, bizarre,
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: truly sad, but just such interesting stories. And you know,
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: I think sometimes we get caught up thinking that so
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: much has changed, or you know, the circumstances of today
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: are nothing like you know this or that, and it's like,
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: I don't know, part of me thinks, you know, the
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: more things change, the more they stay the same in
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: a weird way.
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: I don't know. I hope that means.
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: No, but you know what I think.
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: I mean, I know, yeah, I feel like now everything's
- 1:17:11Speaker 3: documented on like social media, like that's people's diaries now
- 1:17:17Speaker 3: it is.
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: I just thought these were really interesting stories, and I
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: found like the most bizarre and I don't know, sort
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: of tangential ways to kind of tie all of this together.
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: I definitely feel like Charlie Day in front of the corkboard,
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: like I need a lot of the red string, very
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: much my usual, but then also just the historical aspect
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: of it and kind of getting to see things from
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: a different perspective. I mean, how about that, like at
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: the very beginning, Petty Grove and Lovejoy ever heard of them?
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: I know right, just saying, and they were both from
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: Maine and Massachusetts, and now we know that Maine used
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: to be part of Massachusetts. Like, I feel like we
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: learned a lot knowledge bomb.
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: Should we try to, like maybe learn a little more
- 1:18:14Speaker 2: with some taro?
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: Some taro?
- 1:18:17Speaker 2: Yeah, wonder what kind of vibes we're gonna get?
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: Oh boy, wow, all right, what are you thinking? I
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like I have an idea.
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: But yeah, you pickle, I'm guiding your hands from this side.
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: Oh you got the mole? Yeah, two of swords.
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: It's a coast mole. It is moll.
- 1:18:48Speaker 2: All right.
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: Oh wow, I turned right to it. That's crazy. Oh
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: I just realized my working title for this episode is
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: two deaths one date or some variation there are ooh, I.
- 1:19:02Speaker 2: Didn't even think about the two that we got two
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: of sorts.
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: Obviously more than two people died, unfortunately.
- 1:19:08Speaker 3: But yeah, but you talk about two event two to two. Yeah,
- 1:19:13Speaker 3: and you kept saying two events, two events.
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: So our keywords are combined resources, courage, faith, friendship, conflict,
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: and balance. In the traditional deck, this card depicts a
- 1:19:30Speaker 1: blindfolded woman holding two swords crossing over her chest. Twos
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: generally signify balance or conflict as well as pairing. I
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: think if the two of swords as the blind faith
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: card because it can represent courage and making decisions on
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: your own and in some cases spiritual guidance, which is
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: interesting because I feel like there's an element of like
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: spirituality with both of these cases. There is the upper
- 1:20:00Speaker 1: right to can symbolize balancing the right and left hemispheres
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: of your brain. It's interesting that we talk about balancing
- 1:20:07Speaker 1: your brain.
- 1:20:09Speaker 2: Yeah, there are some imbalances with these two.
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: I think so combining intuition with intellect, Drawing this card
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: may mean you must make a decision and need to
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: call on both.
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: This too, can.
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: Also advise you to take off your blindfold and look
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: at a situation honestly. In a reading about money, the
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: upright too recommends trusting your own wisdom and inner guidance
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: in a financial matter, pay attention to your intuition as
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: well as logic.
- 1:20:43Speaker 3: That's interesting that you talk about like intuition because you
- 1:20:45Speaker 3: said that he like had like intuition that he.
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: Was going to die. Yeah.
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: Yeah. If the reading is about your job, you may
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: be confused or conflicted about a work related issue. Have
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: faith than your own judgment and ideas. Sometimes the upright
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: too represents a job that requires both intellect and imagination.
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: In a reading about love, this card suggest listening to
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: both your head and your heart. It can mean you
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: and your partner hold conflicting perspectives, or that you're trying
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: to resolve differences and find harmony. I mean the balance
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: piece of it, and that it like literally talks so
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: much about like kind of the two sides of the
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: of the coin, so to speak, with like the head
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: and the heart and its soords.
- 1:21:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that these people were just kind of
- 1:21:40Speaker 3: like listening to a part of them but not really
- 1:21:44Speaker 3: like seeing.
- 1:21:46Speaker 2: Maybe the whole picture.
- 1:21:47Speaker 3: Like how you could you don't have to kill your
- 1:21:49Speaker 3: family just because you're in debt.
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: Or right, Yeah, I mean, please don't. In fact, if
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: you could not, that would be so great. Well, on
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: that note, I think we better wrap this up. We've
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: got we've got some antsy dogs on both ends of
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: this recording. Like that's that's it, they said, all done,
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: all done.
- 1:22:17Speaker 3: Well, hopefully I can get a quiet second to say goodbye.
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: That'd be nice.
- 1:22:25Speaker 2: Oh there's deer in the yard.
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: Oh it's so cute.
- 1:22:32Speaker 2: Well, now I'm not letting you fools out.
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously have a creepy day.
- 1:22:39Speaker 2: We'll see you next Thursday. Unless you.
- 1:22:44Speaker 3: Ax, murder your family or throw a kid in a well, like,
- 1:22:50Speaker 3: don't come back then.
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: I just feel like we just yeah, just maybe don't.
- 1:22:55Speaker 2: That's terrible. Nobody do that. I feel like it goes
- 1:22:59Speaker 2: without saying.
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: I almost feel like by saying don't do it, it's
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: like we're giving people ideas, you know what I mean.
- 1:23:06Speaker 3: No, No, we would never, they would never think to
- 1:23:09Speaker 3: do that. Don't. No, but for real, like, hopefully everyone's
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: doing okay, check your mental health.
- 1:23:18Speaker 1: Yeah, that feels like that particular sentiment feels kind of
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: on point for us.
- 1:23:24Speaker 3: Right now, right, I'll go check mine health and look
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: at some deer on the grass.
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: I know they're so cute. I'm so jealous. My allergies
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: have been kind of kicking up for me. So Jesus
- 1:23:40Speaker 1: Christ Christ, Oh my god, excuse me. I'm about to
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: become part three of this episode. I just in my
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: peripheral was like, there is a man outside my window. Yeah,
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: she's sot on. We're almost done.
- 1:24:02Speaker 3: But