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What Needs to Change Moving Forward? | Huddle Up · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought to you by the Fields
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Speaker 1: Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former Jaguar
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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, and Senior reporter J. P. Shadrick bring you
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Speaker 1: the latest on your Jacksonville Jackuars.
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Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right.
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Speaker 3: Now and walkome in.
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Speaker 4: It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks on this Wednesday. JP Shadrick,
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Speaker 4: without a game to talk about, and the Jaguars are out.
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Speaker 3: Of the playoffs.
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Speaker 4: They've lost five of the last six to finish the
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Speaker 4: regular season on the outside looking in and Bucky here
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Speaker 4: we are with coaching staff changes and it's already beginning.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, in a.
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Speaker 5: Disappointing and normally what happens when you finished the way
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Speaker 5: the Jaguars finished their consequences and unfortunately you see a
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Speaker 5: bunch of good guys lose their jobs. But it's results business,
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Speaker 5: and we don't produce the results on the field that
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Speaker 5: everybody expected, like someone has to answer for that. I
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Speaker 5: think it's just the game against the Tennessee Titans was
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Speaker 5: basically just like a microcosm of the season. We just
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Speaker 5: didn't play well, gave the ball away, couldn't make the plays.
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Speaker 2: When we needed to make them.
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Speaker 5: And it's really disappointing because a team that appeared to
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Speaker 5: have a lot of promise and potential and maybe we
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Speaker 5: overshot that just fell well short of expectations at a
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Speaker 5: time where we thought the division was there to really
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Speaker 5: own for the next few years.
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Speaker 6: Well then twice in the last two weeks. I have
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Speaker 6: no idea when Doug started truly considering just resetting the defense,
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Speaker 6: but the last two games of the seat, I mean
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Speaker 6: not the last two games, but two of.
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Speaker 7: The last three.
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Speaker 6: The defense early on in games just didn't stop, like
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Speaker 6: didn't stop and didn't stop things that should have been
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Speaker 6: very obvious the other team was gonna do.
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Speaker 7: If that makes it, I mean, it was fairly obvious
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Speaker 7: what the Titans were gonna do. I think everybody.
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Speaker 6: In Jacksonville who'd ever seen the Titans play, we're not
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Speaker 6: surprised by the game plan. Uh And and in Tampa
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Speaker 6: sort of the same way. So I just felt energy, urgency, whatever,
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Speaker 6: just in in two of the last three. Really I
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Speaker 6: didn't feel that in Baltimore. I didn't feel that in
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Speaker 6: the first three games of that losing streak, But two
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Speaker 6: of the last three just wasn't there. And uh, perhaps
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Speaker 6: Doug thought it particularly wasn't there. On defense, I'm not
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Speaker 6: sure a buck.
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Speaker 5: I can tell you some of the issues that we've
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Speaker 5: seen from the defense have been problematic all year.
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Speaker 2: The team didn't tackle Will. It didn't tackle Will on
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Speaker 2: the perimeter. Uh.
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Speaker 5: And when you don't tackle Will on the second and
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Speaker 5: third levels of the defense, you have explosive plays that happened.
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Speaker 2: So you see Derek Henry have a big run.
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Speaker 5: You see Taji Spears have a big play on a
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Speaker 5: screen pass that she never happened. It just was part
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Speaker 5: of a theme that we saw consistently throughout the season.
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Speaker 2: And the first thing.
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Speaker 5: That you have to do when you're looking for issues,
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Speaker 5: you have to assess is it scheme, coaching, or personnel.
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Speaker 5: And so obviously the initial evaluation is that it was
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Speaker 5: the scheme and it was a coaching The scheme was flawed.
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Speaker 5: Maybe that's obviously the impression that Doug had felt and
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Speaker 5: the coaching wasn't good enough to get the guys to
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Speaker 5: play at the level of expectation. But now that you've
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Speaker 5: changed coaches and you're going to alter the scheme, well
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Speaker 5: now every player is going to be held accountable for
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Speaker 5: the performances that are on the field going forward, and
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Speaker 5: some of them will be held accountable for the performances
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Speaker 5: that they put forth this past season.
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Speaker 4: Can't fire all the players, no, but I mean there
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Speaker 4: could be some changers there. Well, I mean they didn't
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Speaker 4: have any coming into the season, really.
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Speaker 5: And there should be changes when it comes to the
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Speaker 5: players because all of the issues are not coaching issues.
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Speaker 5: Coaches can put you in position and they can dollop
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Speaker 5: these things, but at the end of the day, players
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Speaker 5: have to make plays, and not enough Jaguars made plays,
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Speaker 5: and that's.
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Speaker 2: Just the truth of it.
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Speaker 5: One on one situations, making plays on the ball on passes,
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Speaker 5: being able to bring running backs and wide receivers down
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Speaker 5: in space.
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Speaker 2: As a defensive back or linebacker, you got to do that.
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Speaker 5: And then being in your gap, your assigned gap as
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Speaker 5: an interior defensive lineman. That is also a player issue,
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Speaker 5: that's not a coach issue.
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Speaker 2: So right now, it's all.
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Speaker 5: Like the fallout is on the coaches, but please believe
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Speaker 5: players will also suffer some consequences for not failing to
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Speaker 5: perform YEP, the.
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Speaker 4: Long offseason ahead. That's just on one side of the football.
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Speaker 4: And then there's of course the offensive changes. Running backs
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Speaker 4: coach Bernie Parmally is out and they did not renew
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Speaker 4: the contract to assistant O line coach Todd Washington. Those
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Speaker 4: are the offense changes. And you know, we heard from
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Speaker 4: we'll hear from Trevor Lawrence coming up a little bit.
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Speaker 4: But you know, it's it's an offense that, you know,
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Speaker 4: didn't live up to the expectation of thirty points per
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Speaker 4: game that they put out there early in the season.
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Speaker 4: I think they were about twenty two points per game.
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Speaker 4: They were very horizontal bucky a lot of the season,
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Speaker 4: and the run game was inconsistent, and they couldn't get.
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Speaker 3: It done in big spots.
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Speaker 2: Now I couldn't get it done in big spots.
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Speaker 5: And so there are a few things that stood out
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Speaker 5: when we talked about the offense. One not being able
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Speaker 5: to run the football, even though this is a team
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Speaker 5: that likes to operate on a sixty to forty pass
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Speaker 5: run ratio. When you're unable to run the ball, that
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Speaker 5: changes the way that you have to call plays in
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Speaker 5: critical moments.
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Speaker 6: You can set there back the third, third and short,
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Speaker 6: fourth and short if you can't run the ball and
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Speaker 6: everything has to be a horizontal.
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Speaker 5: Pass or a sprint out sprint act your pass, and
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Speaker 5: then defenses don't respect your running game because you don't
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Speaker 5: have the physicality and toughness at the point of attack.
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Speaker 2: So the running game was an issue in the passing.
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Speaker 5: Too many communication issues, too many times where Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 5: and the wide receivers are kind of looking around trying
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Speaker 5: to figure out who's supposed to do was, so then
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Speaker 5: you have a misfire, and some of those misfires lead
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Speaker 5: to turnovers. So you got to get on the same
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Speaker 5: page quarterback and pass catcher.
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Speaker 2: They got to be able to know exactly what to
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Speaker 2: do at all times.
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Speaker 5: And then the final part is man just the offensive
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Speaker 5: line and the struggles there not being able to run
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Speaker 5: the ball and not being able to protect the pass
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Speaker 5: or all those things. So no matter who's calling plays,
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Speaker 5: if you can't control the line of scrimmage, it's pointless.
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Speaker 5: And the Jaguars were not able to control the line
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Speaker 5: of scrimmage, and that led to a lot of their
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Speaker 5: roleves when it came to whether they couldn't pass it
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Speaker 5: or run it effective.
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Speaker 6: Well, I'm going to talk because it's my turn, but
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Speaker 6: what Bucky said was dead on. I kind of joked
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Speaker 6: when I said, you can stop right there after he
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Speaker 6: said the inability to run to me, for the last
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Speaker 6: half of the season, that defined the offense, and it
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Speaker 6: defined the team for exactly the reasons Bucky said. I
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Speaker 6: get a lot of emails japs, you know, I answer emails.
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Speaker 6: Why are they so horizontal? Why do they pass the ball?
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Speaker 6: Why do they call these plays?
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Speaker 7: Or you're horizontal?
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Speaker 6: You don't when you can't run and you don't think
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Speaker 6: you can protect very long. So I kind of understand
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Speaker 6: why they call the plays they do because they know
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Speaker 6: this is the personnel and how it plays. And the
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Speaker 6: second part is Bucket's exactly right when teams don't think
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Speaker 6: you can run. When I was in Indianapolis, Peyton Manning
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Speaker 6: talked constantly about we don't necessarily have to run, but
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Speaker 6: we have to establish the thread of the run. The
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Speaker 6: defense has to believe that we will run. When the
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Speaker 6: defense doesn't believe you will run. And when I watched
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Speaker 6: the Jaguars this year, I watch the team where if
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Speaker 6: I was a defensive coordinator, I would not go into
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Speaker 6: games thinking this team can beat us running the ball.
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Speaker 6: They may be able to beat us now, and then
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Speaker 6: they're not going to consistently run the ball.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 6: When that's your approach defensively against a team, then you
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Speaker 6: can gear up to stop the pass all day. You
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Speaker 6: don't really believe they can be so until they believe
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Speaker 6: that they can pick up third and one and fourth
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Speaker 6: and one with the run, teams will play them as
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Speaker 6: if they can't and that dictates everything else.
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Speaker 7: Bucky.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, not only not only picking up sure the other
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Speaker 5: plays on the run, but I'm talking about not a
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Speaker 5: Trickam Dickham, play like a d the round. Oh, we're
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Speaker 5: gonna fade like we running the wedge and we toss it.
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Speaker 5: At some point you got to be able to line
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Speaker 5: up and go downhill. And the Jaguars have not been
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Speaker 5: able to go downhill. And in those situations when you're
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Speaker 5: near the goal line and you're talking about having to
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Speaker 5: throw the ball in a twelve yard box because you've
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Speaker 5: got two yards plus the ten yards that are in
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Speaker 5: the end zone. It's really hard to complete passes in
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Speaker 5: a tight area. You have to be able to run
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Speaker 5: the football at times, and the jaguars inability to run
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Speaker 5: the football really cost them, and it cost them dearly,
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Speaker 5: not only in the red zone, but in a lot
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Speaker 5: of fourth and short situations where they just couldn't convert.
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Speaker 3: We're back in a moment. We'll hear from the quarterback
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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence.
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Speaker 4: He was in the locker room clean out day Monday,
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Speaker 8: Who knows what the what the narrative is gonna be.
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Speaker 8: You know, I'm sure not good so, but I don't
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Speaker 8: really care. So it's not really about that for me.
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Speaker 8: You know, it doesn't stop my growth. I think that's
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Speaker 8: up to me about how much better I get every year,
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Speaker 8: not about what.
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Speaker 2: The narrative is.
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Speaker 8: So I know that it's gonna be a long off season,
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Speaker 8: like I said, for us and what people want to
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Speaker 8: say about us, but it doesn't really matter. I think
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Speaker 8: it's gonna he put that chip back on our shoulder
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Speaker 8: and we know we got to get better and we've
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Speaker 8: got a lot of things to work on, and vidually
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Speaker 8: it starts with me. But I'm excited. I think I
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Speaker 8: took a lot of steps this year. You know, people
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Speaker 8: can say what they want, but I do feel like
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Speaker 8: there were some areas of my game that I wanted
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Speaker 8: to improve in. I think I did, and now there's
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Speaker 8: there's some areas that I need to get better on.
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Speaker 8: I mean, I know I will moving forward. So for me,
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Speaker 8: it's just going back to work, getting better at what
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Speaker 8: I need to get better at, control what I can control,
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Speaker 8: trying to just also bring everybody with me too, like
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Speaker 8: we all got to get better and it's gonna make
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Speaker 8: it's gonna make our team better.
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Speaker 4: And of course, as the quarterback, Trevor Lawrence in the
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Speaker 4: cleanout day in the locker room Monday and welcome back
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Speaker 4: it's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, j P Shadwick, John Oser,
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Speaker 4: and Jacksonville Bucky out in LA. All the press conferences
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Speaker 4: and the locker room sound from Monday available at Jaguars
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Speaker 4: dot Com or the Jaguars YouTube channel. And let's let's
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Speaker 4: get into Trevor Lawrence's year and now off season ahead.
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Speaker 4: Turnovers are priority number one of course, Bucky sixty turnovers
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Speaker 4: in three seasons that he's responsible for us the most
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Speaker 4: in the league in that time. And I guess you
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Speaker 4: can start right there. How do you begin to I
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Speaker 4: guess work on that in the off season, and you
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Speaker 4: know what needs to happen for him to make.
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Speaker 3: That go down.
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Speaker 5: First thing, Trevor has heard a lot of the outside noise.
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Speaker 5: And I don't know why he's heard so much of
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Speaker 5: the outside noise. Normally players are kind of locked in
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Speaker 5: trying to put that out, but he certainly has heard
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Speaker 5: it because his comments kind of allude to some of
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Speaker 5: the criticisms that maybe he has kind of received over
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Speaker 5: the course of the year in regard to the turnovers
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Speaker 5: and some of the other missteps that he's made as.
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Speaker 2: The starting quarterback. When it comes to like eliminating or
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Speaker 2: reducing the turnovers.
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Speaker 5: He just has to like understand I would say down distance,
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Speaker 5: time and score. Situation awareness is everything, and so there
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Speaker 5: are times at quarterback where you can you can be
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Speaker 5: aggressive and you can kind of push the envelope and
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Speaker 5: try and make it happen. There are other times where
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Speaker 5: based on the circumstance and situation, Hey, I'm gonna take.
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Speaker 2: The check down.
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Speaker 5: If we need to punt, that's fine, but I'm gonna
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Speaker 5: make the smarter play. I don't know if Trevor Goff's,
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Speaker 5: but if Trevor GoF se should go off a lot
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Speaker 5: in the off season, and some of the decisions that
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Speaker 5: you have to make when you're playing golf, whether to
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Speaker 5: go for the hole or whether the lay up, some
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Speaker 5: of those things can help them when it comes to
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Speaker 5: reducing his turnovers.
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Speaker 2: It's just really being aware of.
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Speaker 5: What's going on when I can down it and just
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Speaker 5: protecting the ball. Because there are times where you want
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Speaker 5: your quarterback to be a gunslinger.
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Speaker 2: There are other times where you want to be a
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Speaker 2: game manager.
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Speaker 5: Only he knows when he needs to kind of float
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Speaker 5: in between each world.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's uh, there's no laying up.
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Speaker 3: By the way, you always go for the hole.
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Speaker 2: Well oh no, no, no.
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Speaker 7: No, no always does And.
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Speaker 6: Yes, that's a thing I honestly thought, and I know
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Speaker 6: other people don't like to hear this. I thought he
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Speaker 6: was improving a lot as a decision maker and even
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Speaker 6: his presence in the pocket until the injury against Cincinnati.
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Speaker 7: And I think the.
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Speaker 6: Last five games. This is not an excuse. And I
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Speaker 6: still think he should have been better the last five
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Speaker 6: games in terms of decision but it felt like it
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Speaker 6: got off the there wasn't able to practice. Maybe that
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Speaker 6: caused some communication stuff, Maybe it caused him not to
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Speaker 6: be as accurate, not as confident, whatever, it just wasn't
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Speaker 6: you know.
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Speaker 7: So should he be able to play through that better? Perhaps?
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Speaker 6: But I do think I can point to that as
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Speaker 6: that to me is when some of the turnover stuff,
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Speaker 6: not that it wasn't there before, but when it really
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Speaker 6: amplified it and it got really squarely, as the best
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Speaker 6: way to say it, the not the fumbling in the
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Speaker 6: pocket has to get better. Something that's going to happen
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Speaker 6: that has to get better. The interceptions really spiked, and
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Speaker 6: I thought the decision making in the pocket in terms
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Speaker 6: of where he was throwing maybe actually really spiked.
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Speaker 7: After it.
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Speaker 6: You can get better in that situation. You can make
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Speaker 6: better decisions. The people in his ear need to be
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Speaker 6: always emphasizing you don't have to you don't have to
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Speaker 6: throw twenty picks in chance throws to be great in
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Speaker 6: this league. You can have seasons of thirty two and ten.
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Speaker 6: It doesn't have to be twenty and twenty. He knows it,
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Speaker 6: but it has to be drilled into him because I
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Speaker 6: do think he's the guy going forward. But when Doug
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Speaker 6: talks about every play needing urgency and every moment mattering,
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Speaker 6: that's about everybody, but it certainly applies to Trevor as well.
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Speaker 6: You know, one interception, one bad play at that position
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Speaker 6: can turn a game. And they both talked about it
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Speaker 6: on Wednesday. The number one storyline around this team going
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Speaker 6: in next year is not going to be the defensive coordinator.
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Speaker 6: It's not gonna be the offense. It's not gonna be
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Speaker 6: the wide receivers. It's going to be is Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 6: a turnover machine? And I personally don't think he is.
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Speaker 6: I don't think he will be going forward, But that
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Speaker 6: will be the twitter I mean, that will be number
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Speaker 6: one on everybody's questions about the Jaguars next year. And
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Speaker 6: that's fair because you can't win if he.
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Speaker 2: Is now, you can't win.
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Speaker 5: And so there are a couple of things to talk
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Speaker 5: about and unpacking that that.
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Speaker 2: That answer even further.
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Speaker 5: Sixty giveaways, a lot of giveaways. Man, it's hard to
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Speaker 5: overcome the giveaways. And in a league where most games
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Speaker 5: are decided about eight points and fewer, turnovers are the
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Speaker 5: number one deciding factor. Like I can tell you, if
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Speaker 5: you plus one, you win sixty four percent of your games.
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Speaker 5: You plus two you win seventy two percent of your games,
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Speaker 5: and if you plus three you win about ninety one
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Speaker 5: percent of your games in the league if you just
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Speaker 5: win the turnover differential by those margins. And so when
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Speaker 5: you have a quarterback that has turned it over to
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Speaker 5: this degree that Trevor has, it's hard to overcome that.
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Speaker 5: And you know, Doug talked in this postgame press pro
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Speaker 5: postseason press a about how they felt like down the stretch,
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Speaker 5: so many of the games that they lost were they
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Speaker 5: gave the game away as opposed to the other.
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Speaker 2: Team doing it.
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Speaker 5: And I would anticipate that the emphasis through our offseason
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Speaker 5: training camp and those things.
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Speaker 2: Guys, Let's just.
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Speaker 5: See if we can eliminate some of these avoidable errors,
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Speaker 5: some of the self inflicted mistakes, the turnovers, the penalties
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Speaker 5: and those things, and a lot of it falls on sixteen,
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Speaker 5: not only in terms of taking the ball away, but
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Speaker 5: making sure everybody understands the snap count and they get
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Speaker 5: off the ball on the same time that we don't
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Speaker 5: have illegal formations in those things.
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Speaker 2: I think Doug will put a little.
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Speaker 5: More pressure on Trevor to take complete ownership of the
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Speaker 5: offense in terms of just the little details, in terms
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Speaker 5: of playing the game the right way. I think that's
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Speaker 5: the next step in Trevor Lawrence's evolution as a franchise quarterback.
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Speaker 3: Has to be Yeah, it's a muss.
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Speaker 4: Moving ahead. Let's come back in a moment, a little
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Speaker 4: more defensive talk. When we return the week after the season,
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Speaker 4: it's the final huddle up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 9: Get it down the road during the season, and sometimes
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Speaker 9: you do as coaches, sometimes we say, you know what,
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Speaker 9: we'll get that in the meeting. Well, we'll fix that
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Speaker 9: in the meeting, and you do. You fix it, But.
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Speaker 2: I want to fix it on the field.
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Speaker 9: If Trevor makes a poor decision on the field with
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Speaker 9: the throw, let let's let's positive reinforcement. Let's let him
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Speaker 9: get it again, even though he knows exactly where to
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Speaker 9: go with the ball, Let's make let him make that
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Speaker 9: decision differently.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 9: So, but I think sometimes we get we get caught
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Speaker 9: up too much and you know, let's fix it in
17:45
Speaker 9: the meeting and we'll fix it tomorrow, when when in
17:49
Speaker 9: reality we need to fix it.
17:50
Speaker 3: Right then that's the head coach of course.
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Speaker 4: I thought that was a telling comment there, Bucky about
18:18
Speaker 4: a lot of things and the way, you know, we
18:20
Speaker 4: had talked about throughout the season, especially the second all
18:23
Speaker 4: we've got to practice better, we gotta we gotta practice
18:25
Speaker 4: better and bring it to the game and practice better. Well,
18:29
Speaker 4: there you have it. I mean, that's that's at least
18:32
Speaker 4: his view of how they can improve that moving ahead.
18:36
Speaker 2: Bucky.
18:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, So a lot of people won't necessarily like this
18:40
Speaker 5: because there's been a lot of conversation about the coaching
18:43
Speaker 5: changes and this stuff. But here's what I will say,
18:45
Speaker 5: and just interpreting what Doug put out there. He didn't
18:49
Speaker 5: like the way that his vision was being carried out
18:52
Speaker 5: by the coaches. There's a certain way that he wants
18:54
Speaker 5: his team to practice, there's a certain way that he
18:57
Speaker 5: wants his team to play, and he feels like some
18:59
Speaker 5: of what his wishes and desires were lost in translation.
19:03
Speaker 2: So when Doug stands up there and he used Trevor as.
19:06
Speaker 5: An example of a when we make a mistake, I
19:09
Speaker 5: want us to correct it on the field before we
19:11
Speaker 5: move forward.
19:12
Speaker 2: What happens a lot of time for coaches.
19:15
Speaker 5: Coaches have so much that they want to get done
19:18
Speaker 5: over the course of a practice that they're not able
19:20
Speaker 5: to slow down and say, no, let's get this right
19:22
Speaker 5: before we go forward. And it's something that we've heard
19:26
Speaker 5: a lot, like coaches talked about simplifying things and let's
19:30
Speaker 5: get back to basics, and he talked about not adding
19:33
Speaker 5: maybe new plays, let's make sure we're good with the basics.
19:37
Speaker 5: Sometimes when you are coaches, you kind of fall in
19:41
Speaker 5: love with the novelty of always adding and being super
19:44
Speaker 5: creative on offense and defense, and maybe Doug felt like
19:48
Speaker 5: the fundamentals were slipping. They didn't do the fundamental things
19:51
Speaker 5: well on each side of the ball. So maybe I
19:53
Speaker 5: want someone that is a little more committed to teaching
19:56
Speaker 5: and being very detailed and disciplined with those things. And
20:00
Speaker 5: maybe I just need to have guys that fully communicate
20:04
Speaker 5: and articulate the wise behind what we're doing. This is
20:08
Speaker 5: why we're calling this play, this is why your role
20:12
Speaker 5: in this play is important. Here's the bigger picture, and
20:14
Speaker 5: here's how you fit into the puzzle. That's why you
20:18
Speaker 5: need to take an outside release on a certain route
20:21
Speaker 5: because Number two is going to run an outbreaking right.
20:24
Speaker 5: If you go inside, you bring the corner closer to them.
20:27
Speaker 5: Being able to explain those little nuances maybe to help
20:30
Speaker 5: the team execute better, because maybe they need those details
20:34
Speaker 5: to be able to play at a high level and
20:35
Speaker 5: play faster and more efficient.
20:37
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's a bit of a philosophical thing too.
20:39
Speaker 6: I Mean, there are coaches who believe in not repeating
20:45
Speaker 6: anything during practice because you're not gonna be able to
20:47
Speaker 6: repeat it during the game. So but you also have
20:51
Speaker 6: to know what kind of team you have and if
20:54
Speaker 6: your team is advanced enough to practice that way or
20:58
Speaker 6: if you need to correct on the field.
21:01
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's pretty evident what Bucky said.
21:03
Speaker 6: Clearly something was not getting translated in what Doug wanted.
21:09
Speaker 7: Because there are.
21:09
Speaker 6: Ten coaches not here anymore. So get him on the
21:12
Speaker 6: same page. Get him believe in you, no matter what
21:14
Speaker 6: you believe. Get them believing what you believe. Every would
21:20
Speaker 6: be on the same page. If right, wrong, or indifferent,
21:23
Speaker 6: speak the same language.
21:25
Speaker 5: Yeah, So here's the thing, Like, and coaches, we'll talk
21:29
Speaker 5: about this, like we all have a vision for how
21:32
Speaker 5: we want the team to be, right, but ultimately, your
21:34
Speaker 5: team is what it is when it comes to how
21:37
Speaker 5: they learn, how they execute, and those things. And so
21:41
Speaker 5: if you are a coach, and coaches fall into two
21:44
Speaker 5: categories sorry, either a schemer or you're a fundamentalist. If
21:48
Speaker 5: you're a schemer, that means that you like to have
21:50
Speaker 5: a big volume of plays and you want to out
21:53
Speaker 5: scheme the player, you want to kind of get on
21:55
Speaker 5: the whiteboard and kind of outcreate the opponent, right, Or
22:00
Speaker 5: if you're a fundamentalist, then hey, we're not going to
22:02
Speaker 5: do as much with the plays, but we're gonna spend
22:05
Speaker 5: our days really working on the fundamentals, and at the
22:07
Speaker 5: end of the day, you may know what we're doing,
22:09
Speaker 5: but we're gonna be so good at it that you
22:11
Speaker 5: can't stop it. It appears to me that Doug wants
22:14
Speaker 5: to be more of a fundamentalist team. Let's cut back
22:18
Speaker 5: some of the schemes. Let's make sure our guys know
22:20
Speaker 5: how to play, they can play fast, Let's make sure we.
22:22
Speaker 2: Fully explain everything.
22:24
Speaker 5: And when you do that, you can't have a lot
22:27
Speaker 5: of plays because you won't be able to get it
22:29
Speaker 5: done in practice.
22:30
Speaker 2: It appears that he's.
22:31
Speaker 5: Going to kind of strip it back a little bit
22:34
Speaker 5: and make sure that the players know exactly what to do,
22:37
Speaker 5: so now they can play fast and more confident, as
22:40
Speaker 5: opposed to, Hey, let's do all these exotic schemes and
22:43
Speaker 5: everyone is.
22:43
Speaker 2: Confused and then the execution is inconsistent.
22:46
Speaker 4: Can that change mid season? I mean, can you can
22:49
Speaker 4: they prove as a team that they can handle a
22:52
Speaker 4: lot of the plays, you know, and then charge the dynamic.
22:57
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, So so now, what what to me this
23:01
Speaker 5: does is, Hey, we're gonna start smaller and we will
23:05
Speaker 5: see if they can build up conceptually. So this is
23:10
Speaker 5: where we're gonna start. This is this is where we are,
23:12
Speaker 5: and guys, we're gonna put it on you. If you
23:14
Speaker 5: show us that you can handle that, then we will
23:16
Speaker 5: give you more volume. It's funny because looking back to
23:21
Speaker 5: last season, I feel like this team was what we
23:23
Speaker 5: call a conceptual team, like they would run a handful
23:27
Speaker 5: of concepts from multiple formations, but the thing was very
23:31
Speaker 5: simple for the quarterback because the concept never changed. Thug
23:35
Speaker 5: and those guys just changed the pieces on the chess
23:38
Speaker 5: board to do it. Maybe they got away from that
23:42
Speaker 5: in terms of ay, Treffor can do more, So we're
23:44
Speaker 5: gonna give them more. And what you do is you
23:47
Speaker 5: not only bogged down the quarterback, but you bogged down
23:50
Speaker 5: all the other people because now there's so many little
23:53
Speaker 5: things that they're having to remember that they can't get
23:55
Speaker 5: it all done. I think what you see is a
23:58
Speaker 5: complete overall of not only the messaging, but let's skinny
24:02
Speaker 5: down to slim down the playbook to what is necessary,
24:06
Speaker 5: and then in the over the course.
24:08
Speaker 2: Of the season, if we need to add, maybe we'll add.
24:11
Speaker 5: But let's make sure we master the basics and see
24:13
Speaker 5: how far we can go with just the basics carrying
24:16
Speaker 5: us yep.
24:20
Speaker 4: Final thought in this little segment here, what is your timetable,
24:24
Speaker 4: Bucky forgetting some of these hires done?
24:27
Speaker 3: Are you going to rush or what?
24:29
Speaker 8: Now?
24:29
Speaker 5: You want to get the right people. So look, I
24:32
Speaker 5: think here's what happened, and we haven't talked about it yet.
24:36
Speaker 5: I think Doug took a lot of feedback from the players,
24:38
Speaker 5: and I think he listened to those guys. I thought
24:40
Speaker 5: it was telling and the interviews right after the game,
24:44
Speaker 5: listening to do we talk about we just got to
24:46
Speaker 5: play assignment football, We're not playing our assignments, talking about
24:50
Speaker 5: Josh Allen.
24:51
Speaker 2: Talking about looking for the spark and wanting it to
24:53
Speaker 2: come back.
24:54
Speaker 5: Listening to Christian Kirk and those guys, I feel like
24:57
Speaker 5: the players know exactly what they needed, and I think
25:00
Speaker 5: they may have expressed that to Doug about we need
25:03
Speaker 5: to be a little more buttoned up, got the eyes
25:05
Speaker 5: cross the t's, let's make sure we all understand. And
25:09
Speaker 5: so now I would anticipate that the guy and this
25:12
Speaker 5: isn't a knock at anybody that was let go, because
25:14
Speaker 5: I think they all were pretty good coaches, just my
25:17
Speaker 5: interactions with them, but maybe they're looking more for teachers
25:22
Speaker 5: as opposed to schemers, Guys that are really good at
25:25
Speaker 5: teaching the fundamentals and being able to take guys who
25:30
Speaker 5: look may have some challenges when it comes to understanding
25:32
Speaker 5: whatever and being able to get them to understand. So
25:36
Speaker 5: I think you have to take your time and make
25:37
Speaker 5: sure you're getting the right fit as opposed to just
25:39
Speaker 5: filling the roles.
25:40
Speaker 4: Let's come back our final thoughts for this season. We
25:44
Speaker 4: can put it to bed after this.
25:47
Speaker 3: It'shuddled up with Bucky Brooks.
25:51
Speaker 9: It's we lost the game more than them winning the game,
25:54
Speaker 9: you know, And that's really that's really kind of been
25:57
Speaker 9: our season. When you take a look at the whole thing,
26:00
Speaker 9: and I tried to communicate this with the team, it's
26:02
Speaker 9: like everything is connected, right, everything is connected.
26:06
Speaker 3: Go back to week one, Week two.
26:08
Speaker 9: We played the Chiefs. In Week two and I mentioned
26:11
Speaker 9: to the team how this could have playoff implications even
26:14
Speaker 9: in week two, and then week three you play the Texans.
26:16
Speaker 9: This could have playoff implications right for the AFC South.
26:19
Speaker 9: And then you show up here today and it's like, oh, okay,
26:22
Speaker 9: that's what he's talking. Well, we can't get to that
26:24
Speaker 9: point it's got to be that sense of urgency where
26:27
Speaker 9: everything matters, and this is all part of teaching the
26:30
Speaker 9: team how to win.
26:33
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26:46
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26:52
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26:56
Speaker 4: some playoff football on TV. Unfortunately the Jaguars are not
26:59
Speaker 4: involved in it. But yeah, it's a frustrating ending to
27:04
Speaker 4: what was such a fantastic start to the year. Bucky
27:08
Speaker 4: eight and three. We all know what happened down the
27:10
Speaker 4: stretch and now it's about picking up the pieces and
27:13
Speaker 4: moving forward and how they do that even.
27:16
Speaker 3: With all the changes in the last couple of days.
27:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that, but look, it's certainly disappointed you eight
27:21
Speaker 2: and three.
27:22
Speaker 5: You expect to be one of the top seeds in
27:24
Speaker 5: the playoff field, and you expect to have an opportunity
27:26
Speaker 5: to play for the Super Bowl.
27:26
Speaker 2: You don't get that done. I think if you, Doug Peterson,
27:30
Speaker 2: what you're trying and do while being brutally.
27:32
Speaker 5: Honest and assessing where you are, you do take souse
27:35
Speaker 5: in the fact you got back to back winning season,
27:36
Speaker 5: the first time it's been done in Jacksonville in a
27:38
Speaker 5: long time. Now, what you want to do is you
27:40
Speaker 5: want to make sure that you don't necessarily panic, but
27:44
Speaker 5: you want to make sure that you put a process
27:45
Speaker 5: in place that takes the team where they are and
27:49
Speaker 5: helps them elevate. And so now you have a greater
27:52
Speaker 5: sense of your team in terms of the process and
27:54
Speaker 5: what they need. And maybe some of the assumptions that
27:58
Speaker 5: went into the the thought process last year, well maybe
28:02
Speaker 5: you wipe those away and you kind of treat them,
28:05
Speaker 5: I won't say like a high school team, but you're
28:07
Speaker 5: try and over communicate the things that you want done.
28:10
Speaker 5: Because he talked about teaching this team how to win,
28:14
Speaker 5: letting them know that everything matters.
28:17
Speaker 2: I think sometimes as coaches.
28:20
Speaker 5: As fatherers, we can just assume that you're gonna pick
28:22
Speaker 5: up where you left off. And Doug was at the
28:25
Speaker 5: same team we were in Green Bay and Fritz Sherman
28:28
Speaker 5: used to talk about there's no guaranteed next step. So
28:30
Speaker 5: no matter how this season ends, you always got to
28:32
Speaker 5: start back at step one. And so maybe this is
28:35
Speaker 5: just a reminder, a painful reminder that no matter how
28:39
Speaker 5: good we thought the team was going to be, or
28:40
Speaker 5: how good the team is from a personnel standpoint, you
28:43
Speaker 5: got to teach him how to do it, how to
28:45
Speaker 5: win games from square one. And so maybe we'll see
28:47
Speaker 5: a different plan in place when it comes to mini
28:49
Speaker 5: camps in offseason workouts.
28:51
Speaker 7: Yeah, he used to. I mean I read more about
28:53
Speaker 7: Joe Montana than I ever heard.
28:55
Speaker 6: They can cover Joe. But Peyton did the same thing
28:58
Speaker 6: where first day of training camp, first day of OTAs,
29:03
Speaker 6: they have a fresh new notebook and they're taking notes
29:06
Speaker 6: on the first thing the coach says, which is usually
29:11
Speaker 6: you know where the first team meeting is, you know,
29:13
Speaker 6: But it's a symbolic I am starting over, I am
29:17
Speaker 6: learning everything. So there's certainly that, and I think what's
29:22
Speaker 6: important to remember And as things sift out, Dougall realized
29:29
Speaker 6: it already knows it obviously, but they're starting from nine
29:32
Speaker 6: to eight. You're not starting from three to fourteen. What
29:37
Speaker 6: this season showed you up front is how hard it is,
29:42
Speaker 6: and what a razor thin margin it usually is winning
29:44
Speaker 6: and losing. It was razor thin when they were winning early,
29:48
Speaker 6: it was. It was pretty thin. You know, we were
29:51
Speaker 6: talking today kick a field goal against Cincinnati. We're probably
29:54
Speaker 6: not talking about all this, so it's that thin. But
29:59
Speaker 6: you can, as Bucky said, you can't fool yourself into
30:02
Speaker 6: thinking you've got certain things.
30:05
Speaker 7: You have to restart, refocus.
30:09
Speaker 6: One thing that I liked, and I've said this on
30:12
Speaker 6: a couple of different errors, Traves Etn the other day
30:17
Speaker 6: was talking about realizing there's only a few chances you
30:22
Speaker 6: get at this thing. Cisco said the same thing after
30:26
Speaker 6: the game, and I think that will resonate with a
30:30
Speaker 6: lot of these They're what same draft class, right going
30:33
Speaker 6: into their fourth year. Though a lot of guys maybe
30:37
Speaker 6: in their third, fourth, fifth year around here maybe realized,
30:41
Speaker 6: oh this is you don't you're not guaranteed anything, and
30:47
Speaker 6: we're not guaranteed to be here. We're not guaranteed how
30:49
Speaker 6: long this lasts. Let's listen to Doug what he said
30:54
Speaker 6: all year to us about savor and every moment and
30:57
Speaker 6: having urgency in every step and every game matters. They
31:00
Speaker 6: were certainly stayed in the locker room. Let's see now
31:04
Speaker 6: if it's what they're feeling when they report back here
31:08
Speaker 6: in August and what they're acting like next October.
31:14
Speaker 2: Yeah.
31:14
Speaker 5: No, I think it's important that you talked about that
31:17
Speaker 5: because you talked about, like starting off in nine to eight,
31:19
Speaker 5: it appeared that this team kind of thought that after
31:22
Speaker 5: the playoff went against the Charges and coming up just
31:24
Speaker 5: short against the kensit the Chiefs, that they would pick
31:26
Speaker 5: up right there, and maybe that led to maybe a
31:30
Speaker 5: little complacency when it came to just dialing in and
31:33
Speaker 5: doing those things. And so you talked about Peyton having
31:35
Speaker 5: the blank notebooks, so maybe some of those guys may
31:38
Speaker 5: have kind of like checked out doing the early part
31:41
Speaker 5: of the things when they were putting in the things
31:43
Speaker 5: that are rudimentary we got this, I got that or whatever,
31:46
Speaker 5: and then subconstain you begin.
31:48
Speaker 2: To kind of slip on the details.
31:50
Speaker 5: I think this would be a reminder to the coaching
31:53
Speaker 5: staff not to let those guys become complacent, like, coach
31:56
Speaker 5: them hard when it comes to the details, and that's
31:59
Speaker 5: the only way to get to kind of live up
32:01
Speaker 5: to their potential by not relenting on what the expectations
32:04
Speaker 5: are eaching every day.
32:05
Speaker 6: Yeah, to bore you with one more Peyton Manning story, JP,
32:10
Speaker 6: he went so far as on getaway day he cleaned
32:15
Speaker 6: out his locker. It it was empty on getaway day
32:21
Speaker 6: until the first day of the off season program. And
32:24
Speaker 6: asked about it once, he said, it's a new year.
32:26
Speaker 6: You know, you're not guaranteed anything. You're not guaranteed to
32:31
Speaker 6: be back. He obviously was going to be back, so
32:32
Speaker 6: it's exaggeration. But every year is a new year, and
32:37
Speaker 6: that was just sort of a message to himself. But
32:41
Speaker 6: every year is a new year, and you have to
32:44
Speaker 6: approach it that way.
32:45
Speaker 4: All right, final thoughts here. First off, Bucky, what's the
32:48
Speaker 4: most attractive head coach opening right now?
32:52
Speaker 3: Oh?
32:54
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people will say the Chargers
32:56
Speaker 5: just quarterback, quarterback Justin Herbert, but they have own issues
33:00
Speaker 5: when it comes to dealing with the cap and those things.
33:03
Speaker 5: But look, man, there's so many jobs.
33:05
Speaker 2: Available right now.
33:06
Speaker 3: Now right, I'd be done yet, I.
33:10
Speaker 2: Would say the Charges.
33:11
Speaker 5: I would also say the Seattle Seahawks would be an
33:13
Speaker 5: attractive offer because you're talking about a winning program with
33:17
Speaker 5: young players in place that can kind of be there
33:19
Speaker 5: when you take over.
33:20
Speaker 2: That would be a very checking job.
33:22
Speaker 7: Well, Schneider's staying there, right, but I mean he's still
33:24
Speaker 7: right now.
33:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's signed. He's signed through twenty twenty seven, so.
33:28
Speaker 7: The organization is still the organization. So yeah, it's a
33:31
Speaker 7: good job.
33:33
Speaker 5: Everything is stable when it comes to that. And look,
33:36
Speaker 5: but it goes with the quarterback. People are chasing quarterbacks.
33:39
Speaker 5: You have to have a quarterbacks and have a chance.
33:40
Speaker 5: And if you don't have one, man, it's tough sledding.
33:43
Speaker 7: So if you got Herbert in Seattle, it's a great job.
33:48
Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent.
33:50
Speaker 7: You take that time.
33:51
Speaker 2: You want everything that.
33:53
Speaker 3: You want, all right, that'll do it for our show.
33:57
Speaker 4: Have a good few weeks, Bucky, and we'll we'll circle
34:00
Speaker 4: up again, I guess I suppose after the super Bowl.
34:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, it should be fun like once once we get
34:06
Speaker 5: past that back to zero zero, we could be missed
34:09
Speaker 5: it all over again.
34:09
Speaker 4: To clean out our lockers, get a fresh new notebook,
34:13
Speaker 4: and meet you again the week after the super Bowl.
34:15
Speaker 4: That's Bucky Brooks, John Oser, I'm J. P.
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