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Barely Live #59 - Return of Terry Claus · Barely Live

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  All right, let's do h Hello, you listen to what? Hello?
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  What it means so much to me that you guys miss me because I'm oh,
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  you have no idea Mexican. I'm drinking a very large beard tonight.
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  It's a old dog. I'm looking for a mic and not me because I
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  think your padazzled jeans are too tight. We got Kenny Rodez Kenny. Do
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  we have you special guests? It's the holiday special. By the way,
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  Christmas could welcome you in. Well that's true, that is true. Then
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  you the crowd bo I've got a little song. This a little funky Christmas
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  ready for Yeah. Man, I'm sorry to say we should have put together
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  a Christmas playlist. But funky Christmas works right, Funky works all the time.
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  I'll see what this is. New mic set up here tonight, so
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  let's just see how it goes. Let the people know that it might sound
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  amazing, it might sound terrible. We're gonna find it. I'm sure you
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  guys will tell us how you feel about it. That's got a little.
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  Let's go a little. I don't do it all like it speaking of I
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  don't know what this is, run me of this, but like hip hop
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  sounds. I guess maybe did it? Uh? Andre three thousand from Outcast
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  released a new album this year, and I was all excited. I saw
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  that headline and I was like, yes, and I look it up.
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  It's flute music. It's an entire album of him playing some giant wooden flute,
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  which I mean, he's an artist. Whatever, do your thing.
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  But the best rapper in the world, one of the best rappers in the
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  world, made a flute album and it upsets me inside. He's deep.
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  Well, but it's a big wooden thing. I don't know even what it
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  is due I think this show right today, say it would be the kickoff
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  saying Tim and Kenny G getting together worldwide tour on three thousand and Kenny G
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  on on the on the stage. No, actually, I heard that Kenny
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  G's on the album. Actually, well, he plays an obo though,
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  doesn't he plays like I don't know, I'm just telling you or something he
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  missed out because it's already happened. See that's how the good good ideas I
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  have. I don't know all these ideas. I feel naked though, I
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  feel like we're not I feel I'm waiting. I'm kind of leaning of my
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  microphone and I'm just not basically, let me paint the picture here. We
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  got a hanging from the fluorescent light. It's a condenser ambient condenser mic so
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  it's kind of like, yeah, it's like with a bluegrass band plays in
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  front of the all trade off and so the whole idea is that everyone gets
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  hurt. Yeah, like that that the movie where you're like ham and then
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  all the guys going from the sign. Yeah, welly Christmas Tucker decided to
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  show up. I know he does live on the End of the World,
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  also known as John's Island. Yeah, technically I've decided though these these islands
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  here, all they are are marsh and then when the polar caps melted,
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  water decided to come in and surround them. An island is like out It's
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  pushed up out of the bottom of the sea. It's like a tectonic plate
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  thing. It's not waters decided to come and surround our our little marsh.
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  Now we're gonna call it James, and it's just not it's not like it's
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  not my island. Well, the way I look at it is if you
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  can't like willingly escape off of it in a hurricane. But by one or
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  two roads. You're on an island, yeah, I mean wherever you are,
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  I mean yeah, but some of these islands you can just hop skip
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  and jump over the Yeah, you'd be real. Can you be stranded on
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  James Island? On James Island? Like stranded on a on an island?
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  You know if you had one of the last album to get is it only
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  an island? Yeah? Wapoo cut I think Wapoo Creek was the engineers.
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  Well, and it's only that one section on the stone side there was like
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  a little high ground and they cut the trench through that. But Whypoo Creek,
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  that's a natural creek. It just made it bigger. Yeah. Well
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  yeah, they dredged it out and then at the back end they add to
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  literally that's why that last little one hundred yards. So if you're going to
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  the Stoner River is you know, uh has like the repair the rip rap
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  on the sides and all. That's where they actually like bore a hole through
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  high ground. Well see the way where I come from to on this whole
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  concept. You know, Kenny and Island west to Ashley, you do too,
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  I live West Ashley, but it's it's ridiculously it just frustrates from it
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  when when you try to get people off the island, they make it sound
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  like they're just on this island, and they're not on this They are on
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  a place that can easily get to from anywhere they want to be. Like
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  I was yesterday, i was shopping yesterday for Sarah, and I'm in the
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  store that I go to all the time. I'm now Pleasant for lady stuff.
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  And you go to Ladies. She goes, she goes, where do
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  you live? I go, I'm on West Ashley And this girl goes.
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  This girl she goes, Oh my god, it's scary over there. She
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  literally said that that's the most Mount Pleasant thing I've heard. You should have
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  just been like, yeah, I live, I live in me Meanwhile,
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  like you'd have to put a gun to my head for me to live in
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  Mount Pleasant nowadays, Like no, I'm not living. No, it's it's
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  terrible, like not not the people. I got friends over it. But
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  I'm just saying, like the town like navigate, Like just driving around there,
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  I get an aneurysm my brain. It's not that West Ashley is a
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  whole lot better, but it's a little bit better. I think before we
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  had the Ravenuel Bridge. Those old bridges, Now, that was a mind
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  fuck. When you're talking about like hey, meet me downtown, you're like,
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  I think, I don't know. Man. When I first moved here
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  in two thousand and five, they hadn't built Ravenel Bridge yet. They were
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  building it at the time. And I lived in Montclair Town Homes, which
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  was all the way at that time, was the end of Mount Pleasant.
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  It's the town center area right there. And I drove to the West Ashley
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  Charleston Angler to work every day, and I took the Grace Bridge over and
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  the Cooper River Bridge back, and I got so like numb to that,
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  Like I was driving at eighty miles an hour. You see tourists just sweating,
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  Like I mean, you can just like the bridge, and was like
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  it's a bridge, and he was born on that driving it just was that's
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  Grace Bridge. Yeah, that was the oldest one went both directions at one
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  time. No. I towed a boat across it a couple of times.
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  But like I mean, just I was in an S ten Blazer back in
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  those days, like those z R two Blazers. I had this red one
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  and it's not a big car. But even that, like you had to
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  get out of your head because you felt like you were going to scrape your
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  wind, your your mirror out on the on the railing, and then like
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  cars felt like you were going to touch mirrors in the middle and you but
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  like it was wider than that, but it felt so narrow. I can't
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  imagine now with my big truck and a boat behind me, like that hue
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  behind me, I'd been I'd just gotten right in the middle. I just
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  walk traffic. I'm like, don't worry, I'm around seventy across here,
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  say oh, I A don't have to worry about me holding you up,
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  but letting you pass me. Imagine going from Miami to Key WESTLN. Because
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  that's the same exact oh yeah thing that you had the the oldest yeah,
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  it's bad enough on those yeah, And how many boats people were traveling with
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  back in the day on those things? Not many. So I wanted the
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  north trailer. Speaking of when you're talking about old school bluegrass and the one
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  mic thing have you ever heard of? In Otters Jove Band Christmas It is
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  like a Muppet movie. To look it up. It's a movie. It's
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  it's not Spotify No, it's not spot Well, maybe it's not Spotify.
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  I don't know, but it's so it's Jim Henson. So it's like Puppets
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  and ship. Yeah, but it's otters and beavers. And they played like
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  washed up Now I've been dreamed and you had like one of the songs is
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  ateing them a hole in the wash tub. It sounds like a Caso kind
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  of It sounds like Richard wasn't malved speaking of case. So we got some
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  good stuff for the show. We got kso and a poem. Oh yeah,
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  not before Christmas, but yeah, Caso Christmas, we got you got
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  a song. I got a song, let's call against the Street bomb song
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  to the tune in Frosty the snow Man. Is there anything about Christmas in
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  it? Or is it just melody? Is just God? Is there anything
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  really about Christmas about the prose of the stoment? No? No, not
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  really other than the snow well, I mean like in the in the movie,
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  in the cartoon, it's like the Day of Christmas something like that.
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  But really it's just we've been we've been robbed this whole time. It's really
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  not even about Christmas. I don't think so. I mean night after run
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  through the whole song in my head. But Kenny, would you bring Oh
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  no, we should probably announce that Doug is not here. Doug sick.
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  Yeah, you're uh, you're coming in for Dougs. You gotta talk about
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  Georgia and stuff. Uh. We've also got also got our buddy Andrew Lincoln
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  that is part of the Green Sky Bluegrass Crew. He does their light show,
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  which is like a world famous light show for them in the music industry.
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  So he's gonna we're gonna call him later. And we also have Terry
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  and Damien Terry. Yeah, we're calling called. Damien's coming in. I
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  think you're a handler, right, do you know much about what the plane
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  is? He's coming in. But we're calling Terry because Terry's actually in the
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  North Pole for the first time one hundred years. Yeah, he's usually in
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  Florida. He usually rides it out accident. Something's gone on with his brother
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  Santa, So we're gonna we're gonna find out. I don't have any clue.
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  I'm sure Damian Terry Terry will fill so Damien. We've also got a
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  little song that Mike and I put together, and we also want to say
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  thanks to our friends of the podcast, Frigate Rum, which we're sipping on
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  here currently, and we're sipping on some bib and Tucker Bourbon, the he
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  of Sunglasses, Turtle Box. Check out them, turtle Boxes. I still
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  love my Yeah that is actually come to Yeah, that's not a bad one.
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  Used the hell out of mind. And we've added one Breedlow Guitars.
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  R A. Biatti has sent some people I know here guitars and me,
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  and uh, he's a really good dude for what he does and what he
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  does well he talked to on this show. Yeah, pretty sure, we
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  talked shows. You can go back and look at one up yeah, batty
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  Yeah yeah, And they're out of Bendorg and I think, but they do
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  a lot of cool stuff with local musicians and uh, all over the country
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  as well. Breed Low Guitars, So check them out. And I've got
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  one sitting here next to me as well. We're actually gonna do artwork on
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  this and give it to Gritty Old Gritty Flower. Yeah the playing on this
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  guitar. So, uh, those are our friends of the podcast. I
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  don't think we've left anyone out, have we? No, I wouldn't know.
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  We don't do real commercials here. We only do fake ones. Yeah,
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  that's as close as a point of commercial. We just start, we
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  should start doing fake commercials for these things. They'd probably ask us to stop.
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  They neither ask us to stop or be like. You know, y'all
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  are kind of like a think tang for some crazy ideas that we couldn't talk
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  about internally due to the geopolitical situation with the HR. Yeah, but we
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  feel guilty forgetting this HR. We want to start paying you. Oh that
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  would be nice. I like money. That's my favorite thing. I did
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  press your cord just so you'll know. Let's see, we got what song
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  is? Christmas time is here by K Then let's just it's this is maybe
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  making Christmas music. I can't stop looking at the basic christ was present if
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  you wrapped up my you. If you want to see a good looking bass
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  player, look up some trump in videos. I mean a guy. It's
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  not a guy you love that. It's very unguy A guy or non guy.
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  We don't know their pronounce there's no penis non non penis scenario. Yeah,
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  well no, one's probably fishing. The last time we got together by
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  fish. We might go Friday. I ain't no fishing the fish. Take
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  these back to my contrary with me. Yes see you Spanish. Well it's
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  like for us, we got all this bullshit. Well we're also going to
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  listen in on some podc cast. Yeah oh that's right. Yeah, yeah,
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  we so we listened to postcast podcasts, postcast poscast. Yeah yeah,
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  we gotta, we gotta. We listened into something. So we're gonna like,
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  let y'all hear what we listened to, you know, on a data
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  basis, and our whole, our whole thing from the get go is always
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  to not be one of those podcasts that literally can educate you or talk about,
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  you know, strategies on the water and fly I mean we I don't
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  know. I mean, but anyway, when you get on these podcasts and
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  you listen to them, I can literally only listen to them for five minutes.
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  I'm just like, what the winds blow like this? Which one you
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  pick your rod? Yours can get it back over there? And the man
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  I listened to one today that talked about how they layered up when they were
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  spey fishing and like steelhead fishing, and for ten minutes to talk about how
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  he layers his legs and waiters and just like, find it's interesting. Does
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  anyone find it's interesting? I remember one of the only times I ever fished
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  in the snow because I'm a Southerner and fuck that, but one of the
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  only times I ever fish in the snow. Uh. I had a really
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  high tech system of keep myself warm. It's called moonshine, and uh,
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  yeah, that's what I suggest. If you drink enough, you don't know
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  it's cold. About the fifth time of chipping ice out of your guys,
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  you're just like, I don't fishing lessons. Yeah, above freezing. I
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  can't do this. The whole thing is we fish to have a good time.
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  Yes, I'm not having fun if I'm numb and I'm cold as fuck,
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  like by a fire at a bar and chill. You ever seen a
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  fish fight hard in ice cold weather? No, they're just the Yeah,
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  you just dragged dead weight like a wet sock back to you. I was
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  fishing with John when this was back in the angler days, and so we
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  were up in Bulls Bay and we were just like having horrible day, horrible
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  no excuse me behind keewa, and so we're trying to fly on see him
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  plenty of fish, and there's so he switched artificials. Still not anything.
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  Well, he nets giant or stick mullet and we cut it up into into
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  spaces and throw it out in front of this red good size red fish on
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  the red fish comes up to it, and it's like he's he's gonna get
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  it here, ready, get ready, laid down on top of it,
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  used it as a pillow. It's like, man, look at each other.
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  We're just like, fuck it, let's go. Let's like we're done.
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  His idea is like, man, I don't even want to eat that,
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  but I am sure he don't let anyone else. I'm not gonna keep
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  it warm till I feel like, yeah, that's what he's doing. He's
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  getting it warmed up exactly. I mean when I moved out west, uh,
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  you know, in the winter, winter fishing could be good because I
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  mean, the river's already cold anyway, it's not doesn't change a whole lot
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  with them. But I wouldn't even touch the water unless it was like forty
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  five degrees, you know. And people are skiing in January to get an
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  inverse day where the the air is actually warmer close to the land and colder
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  up top and you can fish those days. But yeah, I wouldn't touch
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  it unless if you're getting eyes out of the damn guys. That's just not
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  that ain't fun. That ain't fun at all. And how clear the water
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  is when it's that cold, I mean like in the yeah I can North
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  Carolina. I mean it's just it's always clear. But then during the winter
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  it's even more clear. You don't have any of that that uh, just
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  that lja bloom. Yeah, it's just gin. I mean it's like you
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  can see ten feet down in a pool and be like there's one. But
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  my brother that day chose to wore like fluorescent range. It was just like
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  I remember Mike always talking about when he was driving around the mountains, he
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  always kept a couple of green or brown shirts I did in his back seat.
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  So someone shows up to go fishing and they're not dressed appropriately, and
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  just like there you go, well, it's inevitable. You'd have a body
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  show up and we fish small free strolls and you're you're creeping around and you
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  know, but and aar cast on a rocks and yeah, they show up
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  in a bright red shirt or a yellow hat or you know, like bring
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  a river runs through it. Don't forget the worms. Yeah, so I
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  kept kept extra shirts in the back of like red coffee camp. Right,
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  Yeah, that's cool like that. I took my oldest son his birthdays in
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  January. We went camping and fishing. Dah. Yeah, we put everything
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  on waiters everything, get out in the water. I think it's we get
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  out there in the water and Lasten can't feel anything, You can't do anything.
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  That on of the guys, No you lost me and David's Yeah,
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  that was a close trip. I got a little I got a little game
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  for y'all, all right, Christmas song game. All right, so I
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  got the list of the top twenty songs ever, and so what we're gonna
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  go around And so if you like, let's say you say a song and
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  it's number four, you're gonna get sixteen points. If it's if it's number
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  one, you're gonna get nineteen points, if that makes sense. But if
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  if you get if it's number nineteen, you're only getting one point. Yeah,
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  all right, let's just go randomly. You're gonna go first, Kenny,
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  name a name a Christmas song. You want it to be the top
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  song, the top song Christmas song. I don't think I can do twenty
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  Well, you don't have to. You're just gonna name three. We're going,
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  We're gonna three rounds. Drum number one boom. Y'all can't name Christmas
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  songs? I got one, I got one? O is it? No
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  one got cancer? Yeah? Yeah, but it's not all I want for
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  Christmas? Is you? Maraah carry number one? That had to be called
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  twenty points? Twenty points? Okay, all right, don't look at that
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  list. I can't think of Christmas. Yes you can. She compels little
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  Rock, no jingle twelve days of Christmas. We gotta be remember, you
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  gotta remember. This is the most sold songs. So you didn't say that.
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  You said the most the most popular. It doesn't mean sold the most
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  albums day Christmas is not popular, you guys. Jingle else, no one.
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  You guys know what I'm talking about. No, I didn't know what
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  you were talking about. Instruction, It's unclear, asshole. You get it.
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  He got it rocking around the Christmas tree. He so this nineteen points
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  rocking that's in every movie and on every TV show ever. That's the thing
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  I know. Well, I don't tell you, Kenny. I think I'm
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  unbeatable at this point. I'm going to pick number one. Just keep it
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  going on more em Oh yeah, that's not Christmas a little you want to
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  cow? Yeah, I can't. Don't give him no hands man, I
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  want to end up right here. Yeah, two points. He gave me
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  the bottom of the he couldn't even make it. Alkay, let it let
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  it snops. Yes, Number ten, So you got ten points, all
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  right, Santa Baby? Come on, ma baby, you got four points.
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  Oh that was pretty low, but you went three for three. Three
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  al right, so give that clue y'all around home around? Are we done?
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  I mean you're done. I can't think of anything else. I'm gonna
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  read the rest of there. Okay, I saw Mama I got, Mike
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  got forty three points, Kenny got two, and Tucker got ten. Job
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  guys, job's you be like? Oh yeah, that's all right. Number
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  number three. We've already heard one or two. It's the most wonderful time
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  of the year. Okay. Last Christmas by whim Mingle Bell Rock. It's
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  beginning to look Beloved by Michael White. Christmas Being Crosby Christmas Song by Nat
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  King Cole Holly Jolly Christmas, My Burble Lives Santa, tell me Arian,
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  I don't know that song. Happy Christmas, War Is Over by John Lennon,
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  Blue Christmas by Elvis Presley, Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas Frank Snatra,
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  Sleigh Ride by the Ronets, Carrol the Bells by Nick Nick Leon remember
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  that one. Yes, Christmas maybe come Home Mariah Carrey and Silver Bells.
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  But Dean Harden, guys, I've got Christmas all right? Later, all
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  right, well, you got anything else for this opening with their Mikey No,
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  man, I got nothing. I mean not unless you do. I
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  figure we bullshit a bit. It was seeing the movies. I finally saw
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  Open Oppenheimer the other night. My wife maybe watching Barbie. I want to
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  watch Barbie. It's actually good. It's it is. It's fine. It's
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  better than what you thought it was gonna be. Yeah, yeah, I
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  mean it's pretty formula. I don't really understand what the plot is, what
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  it's supposed to be. It would be cooler if like they really lean into
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  the fact there's like like parallel dimensions and ship, but that would have been
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  more. They act like it was like no big deal. Yeah, like
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  there's a Barbie dimension. And then there's like a real world dimension like in
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  the Barbie world, you know, Barbie's it's like this uh feminist utopia where
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  women are in charge of everything and women are all the major roles in the
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  men are just you know, nothing, so Ken's but then Ken and Barbie
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  comes to the real world and Ken finds out that men run the world here,
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  and then Ken takes that attitude back to Barbie Land and takes over barbie
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  Land as well. Don't I didn't give you the ending. I'm just telling
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  you the set up here. So that's kind of what I'm not going to
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  watch Barbie Now. I was just dying, which I did. I didn't
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  know that that was even out, like a prequel. Yeah, but it's
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  like I had no idea. I had not seen a trailer for it over
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  the past several months. The one I'm looking forward to is Napoleon. Come
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  it's out, I think now, yeah, come on, yeah, come
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  on. I can't watch that with my wife because she's gonna ask a lot
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  of stupid questions and I'm just watch I love her, but she's gonna what's
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  going on? No? No, no, no no. So uh oh
• 25:45
  was good on the on the lines of Napoleon Omer. This brought up thing
• 25:48
  my wife asked me the other day and and I found out this is like
• 25:51
  a TikTok thing. I don't have TikTok, but I found out this to
• 25:53
  think where women ask their husband's boyfriends whatever, how often they think of the
• 25:59
  Roman Empire. My wife asked me this, and I told her I was
• 26:02
  like a couple of times a week. I don't know, maybe you know,
• 26:04
  three times a week. I'm not serious, I dude, I really
• 26:10
  did. I'm not joking. I'm probably thinking about some facet of the Roman
• 26:14
  Empire, whether it's how they built roads or maybe a little Julius Caesar or
• 26:18
  something. I think about it a lot. Yeah, I honestly, technically
• 26:22
  the story of Jesus, at the beginning of the New Testament, all of
• 26:26
  it. But the thing is, like, I really do think about the
• 26:30
  Roman Empire pretty frequently. And I told her that, and she's like,
• 26:33
  are you, Kimmy, why do you think about so I'm like, don't
• 26:37
  you Apparently women don't think about the Roman Empire at all. Women. Then
• 26:42
  you're talking about the Mongols. Yeah, big history guy, but like,
• 26:48
  yeah, apparently you can go and take a look it up. I looked
• 26:49
  it up later, but like, yeah, like these women and most of
• 26:52
  the guys are like, I don't know, three times a week, I
• 26:59
  really do. I mean, maybe I'm weird. Probably not that, I'm
• 27:02
  just I was curious. Do you think about the Roman emparyish? I mean
• 27:06
  maybe you hated those guys. Yeah, they didn't take over Spain at some
• 27:15
  point. That was Hannibal Hannimal Handle came out of Spain at that point.
• 27:22
  No matter, you still got some of those European bloodlines. And there,
• 27:25
  buddy, you didn't get Rodriguez from your araw whack dug out canoes did?
• 27:37
  Yeah, comy doors and syphilis showed up and that was it. When we
• 27:44
  come back, and I do want to dive into your granddad a little bit.
• 27:48
  Segments just here. Uh, let the people here, you know,
• 27:52
  let's look it up on Spotify and check it out. All right, let's
• 27:56
  uh, let's get out of this black Here's one of your favorite folders ads.
• 28:00
  As we fade out to the break, thanks a lot, Merry Christmas,
• 28:18
  Merry Christmas. I'll realize the please not to wake an come on that
• 29:02
  wishes for this and all your mornings from folgers. What there well you better
• 29:15
  watch out. You better not spy. It's all about once when you were
• 29:21
  driving by. David Magnum's coming to town. Yeah, you left it first
• 29:29
  light. Nobody inside, check out the spot chet and fished last night.
• 29:34
  David Magnum's coming to town. Well, he sees you when you're creeping.
• 29:44
  He are watching where he stays. When he finds you at the boat ram,
• 29:51
  well you better be good for goodness. Sing yeah, tarping or funk
• 29:59
  you're They're a good town. But find your own spots because it ain't worth
• 30:03
  dying. David Mangham's coming. That's a town. Yeah, David Mangum's coming
• 30:12
  to town. Yeah, David Bangums coming two town. All right, you
• 30:27
  just found out. Terry can take the call now is go get Damien.
• 30:32
  I'm gonna go ahead and call. All right, I'll go, I'll go
• 30:33
  get in. Call Damien calling uh Terry right now, Damian. We're calling
• 30:44
  Terry right now. Good see anybody body? Well, that was the wrong
• 30:52
  number, Paul I thought he was calling Terry. Terry. Well, hey,
• 31:03
  hey, uh sorry, hey Terry. We got Damien here, buddy,
• 31:11
  Larry, it's me what you call for Verry? The last time that
• 31:19
  I saw you. You were in the Amazon fundays you rare pinea, You
• 31:23
  did your third trout set your screamed god damn it and sticking your middle finger
• 31:30
  aside on your nose and giving a nine poof off the bow. You rose
• 31:37
  and you flew away. How the fuck did you go? I was straightening
• 31:41
  the Amazon. I've been trying to forget about that. Where are you from
• 31:48
  the North Pole? Are you valuing return? Yeah? I think Amazon.
• 31:55
  You were thinking that Amazon warehouse you got you pull over near the rest off
• 31:57
  off the interstate last I remember. Be honest with you. Drink again,
• 32:07
  your ole little man. You gotta stop and start drinking again. Hey,
• 32:16
  how you doing? It's Paul. We got Kenny Rodriguez, Mike and Paul.
• 32:22
  Hey, it's gonna the Gambler. That's exactly what it is. What
• 32:31
  are you doing back up in the north breezing my balls? Why? Why
• 32:38
  wouldn't you tell me you were going, I'm gonna ring together like we could
• 32:44
  see Christmas carols the whole time, and we would like, you know,
• 32:47
  stop to get people present and BUCkies and like you even would have done all
• 32:52
  the fun things. He treats me. He treat me into going to some
• 33:01
  craigslist shell. He said that he was by a used rain too, that
• 33:07
  every thing I knew, rolling out out the fire the south of Washington,
• 33:09
  d C. Dropping every damn rest if he can find, tapping toes,
• 33:15
  spreading the Christmas spirit, as he'd call it. That's what we're supposed to
• 33:20
  do. Yeah, the man, The man's fond of a candy cane.
• 33:30
  Paul suck a straight right off of it. Terry, are you up?
• 33:44
  Are you up helping your brother up in North Pole? Yeah, yeah,
• 33:47
  he said he is. He said he hasn't worked for me as a holiday,
• 33:52
  said run up there, you know, uh, draw all business and
• 33:54
  cutting the key west right now? Ship seeing the gold Gold Cup this year?
• 34:02
  Yeah, yeah, sure, whatever you say. Okay, I'm gonna
• 34:07
  go start scouting. I figure you need a good hurricane before you having any
• 34:10
  drawwall business down there, buds in this place of ship. I don't know
• 34:15
  what's going on, but my brother, old Nick, he said, you
• 34:20
  got still got business, still got kids wanting toys. So I'm helping out
• 34:24
  best I can. And uh that that little something bit's got to hold on
• 34:29
  me by as soon as I pulled up my bottom Ville and uh went on
• 34:32
  my ass as I've been there. I just got back that lost this whole
• 34:35
  damn gig so uh so yeah, but Terry, tell me this, how
• 34:40
  did you get out of the truck? Our brother went through the back seat.
• 34:49
  That ain't the first time I've ever been in the trunk. All right,
• 34:52
  Terry, that's what about you? So? How are you and your
• 34:55
  brother getting along? I know you guys had kind of a good run of
• 34:59
  back luck for about I think it was what ninety seven years. You guys
• 35:02
  kind of put that behind never it's never really been naked, been that bit.
• 35:06
  It was why that's all. But we're good. We're good, you
• 35:10
  know, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got dam and you're killing me.
• 35:22
  I can't to get away from this season of Christmas spirit. I've decided
• 35:30
  different you. I'm like a little elf Jesus, Yeah you do come back?
• 35:40
  Oh God? What? Uh so? Uh? When are you heading
• 35:46
  back down here? What are we going to see it again? Charleston?
• 35:51
  I'm blown through Charleston. Probably go uh, got's see a couple of boys
• 35:57
  in town and head on back down. The keys probably around Mark. Let
• 36:00
  the tall shut in up there, Pet butt down, Okay, gotcha,
• 36:06
  all right? I know where to be waiting for you and you. Yeah,
• 36:13
  you know that's not what we have to scout. We have to fish
• 36:16
  before that. That's true. You meet me at that, but round I'll
• 36:22
  be there. Hey, you know one okay, one may in the back
• 36:28
  and then well you all got you've got any questions for old Terry at all?
• 36:32
  I don't know where to start. Yeah, well, yeah, man,
• 36:39
  I don't know what else what doing? Well? I mean, I
• 36:45
  think Christmas presents and doing shopping is eating Christmas carrols is bringing Christmas cheer and
• 36:50
  making cookies and candy and trying to make it snow around here. But it's
• 36:55
  fun and it just it's not like the noise. This little some bitch never
• 37:04
  sets up. He does this all the time, drives crazy. You've been
• 37:07
  get bars on the way up the Northfall? Oh man, I don't know.
• 37:13
  He never missed Myrtle, Myrtle, and no, no, God,
• 37:15
  no, I don't miss Myrtle. Got a couple of old ladies down there,
• 37:19
  and uh, Omaha, Nebraska's got some good ones. I didn't go
• 37:23
  through Omaha this time. I tried to go to the Buffalo route, so
• 37:28
  that didn't work out too well. Okay, we'll good. What are you
• 37:30
  just sipping on these days? What's what's your bourbon and choice shots? I
• 37:38
  would take something right now Christmas trees. You don't remember anything? What must
• 37:49
  be like what no him is? When one of these soldiers said, the
• 37:51
  old Vietnamese man walking around his flask sat what's your favorite memory of Damon Damien?
• 37:59
  Oh well I laught that little something last time. Of my favorite memories.
• 38:05
  I probably got rid of me. Yeah. The worst thing I had
• 38:15
  him to do was sett me up at sea. Account next thing I know,
• 38:19
  sleeping on the couch for seven days. I can't get rid of with
• 38:22
  some bitch. Well, how did you get stuck with him? Because he's
• 38:28
  spreading the Christmas spirit all over the damn pullets want and clean the damn thing
• 38:32
  and have a little some bitch, so you left the family. But you
• 38:37
  you got dealt like your your penance was that you had to have an elf.
• 38:43
  The rest of your life isn't like the Secret Service for like presidents like
• 38:45
  yeah, yeah, yeah, just secret. That's where secret Service got it.
• 38:51
  Oh yeah yeah, to keep a f and uh, let's just say
• 38:57
  miss Cloles picked out my signed out. Oh see why y'all don't get along.
• 39:01
  So well, maybe this year you can pull the boat and I can
• 39:07
  cast to a fish. Yeah yeah, maybe we're good. Maybe good.
• 39:12
  Then we'll figure that out just because uh yeah, you just leave me out
• 39:17
  there all right. Well, I figure since you're you're helping your brother,
• 39:22
  you probably got a whole lot of time. Yeah, I don't. I'm
• 39:27
  pretty busy right now. But wait a minute, hold on, that's required
• 39:30
  by my p o ho ho ho, Merry Christmas. We want to have
• 39:35
  a good We appreciate it. Buddy. Thanks for letting us take a little
• 39:38
  of your time. Uh yeah, good talk to you. Come back through
• 39:43
  here when you down. When you get a second, paulusis number right,
• 39:50
  that bad number. We'll watch out for Davy for you. Okay, Well
• 39:52
  we'll keep tracking you are, I'll be I'll be looking for you, all
• 40:00
  right, Terry, thanks buddy, day before you go, Buddy, what's
• 40:06
  what? What do you so? What do you do without Terry? I
• 40:07
  mean I thought that you guys gonna did Christmas together? So how's that working
• 40:12
  for you? I just go around Christmas? Christmas? Yeah? So where
• 40:17
  you are you staying at Terry's place in Uford, or Keys? Oh?
• 40:22
  I just kind of bounce around kind of. You get a lot of gigs.
• 40:25
  You get a lot of gigs. It's really easy to hype a ride
• 40:28
  in a car. You just kind of jump in and he notices you.
• 40:30
  The shopping bags. You just gotta end up when you end up, and
• 40:35
  you get a lot of stores, and just be yourself when they pay you
• 40:37
  to hang out. Right, Absolutely, it is absolutely amazing. I was
• 40:43
  in this one store and there was a lot of things that buzz and wiggled.
• 40:50
  They were oddly shaped. I couldn't figure out exactly what. And it
• 40:54
  smelled. It had a very interesting smell. It was the store are called
• 41:00
  bad Kiddy sadth prought by my neighborhood over there on seventeen, right next to
• 41:13
  the subway. Subway. That explains where the strange smell was exactly. Yeah,
• 41:20
  that's exactly what it was. You can't get that smell out of your
• 41:22
  club. Oh boy, well you can get a foot long in either place.
• 41:25
  I reckon, well, let's let's get Tucker. Let's get Tucker back
• 41:29
  in here. Yeah, dam when you go out there and get Tucker,
• 41:31
  Hey boy, good good sceneing you bud, happy Christmas stuff. Hey,
• 41:35
  don't let that door catch you watch out? Well all right, jeezus say
• 41:39
  to christ that's like that little crackhead. That was fun though, Yeah,
• 41:45
  good job seeing him in a Wow. Yeah he's a lot though. Like
• 41:50
  that's about it. That's that's a year's worth, about ten minutes, and
• 41:52
  that's about You're good. You know you don't need any more of that for
• 41:55
  the entirety of your love here. Can you imagine being Terry though? Like
• 42:00
  is happened to like he's always trying to escape him. That's the only think
• 42:02
  Terry does, claims his drinking habbits and now but uh, allor what else
• 42:08
  we got on this segment here, let's do one of ours? All right?
• 42:13
  We could do uh Tucker saw Yeah, Tucker, you want to sing
• 42:16
  your song? Yeah? Sure, yeah, Tucker's gonna sing it. I
• 42:22
  didn't write it, and I ain't getting claim for it. You want.
• 42:25
  Sean was gonna say, you know, the the voice of Frosty snow Man,
• 42:31
  the original. Oh okay, that's how it was kind of that's what
• 42:36
  I was gonna do. Well, I can just kind of make it.
• 42:38
  We're still a live so okaybody hearing your description. So it's Frosty this that's
• 42:47
  what did you need to get in there? H yeah, let's try to
• 43:00
  get we'll figure out. Frost the snub Man brought to you by That sounds
• 43:04
  like it'll just what are you bringing me in? Or just once love guitar.
• 43:15
  I don't know. Let's see you just bring I'm just coming at the
• 43:17
  top of the beat Hugger christ See the street bum was a weird and tweaky
• 43:27
  guy with a clear crack pipe, kind of bloody nose and two big red,
• 43:31
  bloodshot eyes. Crust the street Bump was an addict. As they say,
• 43:39
  he was drunk as hell, but the people tell how we sobered up
• 43:44
  one day. There must have been some magic in that mushroom can't be found.
• 43:51
  Oh, and he placed it in his mouth. Things began to dance
• 43:55
  around. Crush Stee the street bump was it fucked up as secret, But
• 44:02
  he asked the guy if he could have a rye into the city. Oh,
• 44:08
  cross Steve the street Bump. We had to get some smack, so
• 44:21
  we sat around for fun so I don't have a heart attack. Down to
• 44:28
  the dealer with some cash tight in his hand, but the guy said,
• 44:34
  no, that's not enough for blow, So you'll have to lend a hand.
• 44:38
  He let him down the alley in town where nobody could see, and
• 44:45
  he said, hey man, I'll hook you up if you get down on
• 44:50
  your knee across stee the street. Bump had to hurry on his way,
• 44:57
  but he got his fix because he sucked. But he's so bad up that
• 45:01
  day, drunk kitty, trunk, trunk, crusty, drunk kitty, drunk
• 45:10
  trunk, drunk, drunk chunk, coming the father of two children. Ladies,
• 45:27
  I mean that it was ever a Christmas song, that was Christmas.
• 45:31
  I guess, holy ship, there you go streets. Oh man, it
• 45:40
  is. It's tough. I mean it's tough out on the streets. All
• 45:45
  right, So let's talk about the next segment we got. We're gonna have
• 45:50
  Lincoln. Yeah, we got Lincoln. We also have to check in on
• 45:55
  the podcast. Yeah, all right, we'll do that. Next segment.
• 46:01
  We might just chop a bunch of stuff and the little pieces. Yeah that
• 46:05
  sounds good, but I don't even know drinks. So maybe we take a
• 46:08
  breather and yeah, reload. Let's see where we're at. We're gonna go
• 46:13
  out with another folders at Okay, this is a Folders Christmas here. Well,
• 46:21
  you know it's a Christmas time, Michael. I don't know if you
• 46:24
  know that. I like coffee too. Crystals still around. I must have
• 46:35
  the wrong house, sister. Oh, you do so much. They waited
• 46:40
  up all night for you. You know it's a long way from West Africa
• 46:45
  real coffee. I brought you something pretty far away. Really, Oh what
• 47:02
  are you doing? Here? Are my present this year? Best faro I'm
• 47:16
  I'm d I'm I'm bro boxing talk, I'm bro boxing, tumped, I'm
• 47:25
  bro boxing, tummed dot voyam, I'm brobox and tugged. I'm bro boxing
• 47:32
  Tumm, I'm bro boxing tummed dar volum bays checking and talk made twice thirty
• 47:45
  times, dassy, I'm brobox and tumped. I'm bro boxing, Tumm,
• 47:58
  I'm bro boxtoo vollum, I'm rare box tuk I'm rare box talk I'm rare
• 48:07
  box an tuk voyum. You want to say to I don't know what you
• 48:23
  want to. I can just shoot down my name, get you will get
• 48:37
  Well, that's terious. You are all about to segue on that. I
• 48:43
  do like to think about like the people that are that God bless their souls,
• 48:46
  that listen to this. Are driving down the road and at some point
• 48:50
  that's just jamming in their car and had a red light, Like somebody looks
• 48:52
  over and it's nice you let your auto recorded. That's fun. I gotta
• 49:05
  go. That's who if I Am. That's what is that? That's who
• 49:07
  if I Am. So station in Dallas listen to the ticket. They play
• 49:12
  that every year and they have like three songs. We're not gonna play all
• 49:15
  three songs. That's my favorite one though I've been hearing that song is telling
• 49:19
  you hear about the last fifteen years. And these kids are like the dad
• 49:23
  plays in one of the guys bands that's on the radio station, and they
• 49:28
  say that the kids are so like they can't believe that the ticket still plays
• 49:31
  it. The fact that tickets still plays it is why it's on YouTube.
• 49:35
  Yeah, and they just can't believe that it's still out there. That the
• 49:37
  kids are And one of the kids is in music and plays in a band
• 49:40
  and stuff, and yeah, so the Dallas radio you know side that kid
• 49:45
  will never reach the height of what like you're playing bands his whole life,
• 49:51
  nothing every time, nothing will ever, that's his peak. He we all
• 50:00
  peaked somewhere at some point much lower mark. So I was I just thought
• 50:06
  maybe we talked about some low tide fishing. We're in low tide fishing mode,
• 50:09
  and this is a fishing podcast. We don't even talked about fishing really
• 50:13
  yet, not once. I mean, I think, yeah, that's par
• 50:16
  for the course. So this is low tide time time of the year,
• 50:22
  and we're dealing with wind lately, I feel like been super windy, Like
• 50:25
  all year long, it's been windy as shit. I haven't been out but
• 50:29
  a couple of times. Keith and I went out a few weeks ago.
• 50:34
  I know that you've kind of gone one of the days that I didn't go,
• 50:36
  and like we've kind of intermingled a little bit there. But we got
• 50:38
  a fish with Keith on the Ashley River, which those fish have been a
• 50:42
  pain in the ass, but he somehow got one. Other than that,
• 50:45
  I haven't been back behind on the Stowe no much or anything. I've kind
• 50:49
  of just kept Ashley and every time I've gone out too, the water has
• 50:52
  been like a foot higher that it's supposed to be. We haven't really had
• 50:54
  a really true low low I think those especially after the storm that we've had
• 51:00
  the water trends are going to be super high too. But have you guys
• 51:02
  been out and done much recently? I have. It's again, Yeah,
• 51:08
  it feels like it's like that every year. Yeah, that's because it is
• 51:15
  windy every winter, like like we don't know what's coming cold, you know.
• 51:21
  And I think about this a lot whenever, Like I traded my little
• 51:23
  skinny creek rating skiff in for a Hughes and so I'm I'm I'm pretty much
• 51:30
  out of the watertime game for a lot of it. But like back in
• 51:32
  the day, we used to fish almost exclusively whenever. I when I got
• 51:37
  here and start fishing, was like the big open flats, you know,
• 51:39
  guys were fishing those big like big areas. I'm not gonna name them just
• 51:43
  because we don't do that here, but you know, like that was.
• 51:46
  And then for a while, yeah, the whole guinea spots. But then
• 51:50
  for a while we got into like I was in john Boat in those days,
• 51:52
  we started, you know, kind of figuring out that dead end creek
• 51:54
  game, you know, and then like and we were john Boats, so
• 51:58
  we gave no fucks. We would get in there and wedge ourselves into overy
• 52:00
  creek in town and and that was that was good times. But you know
• 52:06
  what I liked more than that though with the jomboat that I can't really do
• 52:08
  as much now either, with sheep's heading in the winter. A lot of
• 52:12
  the bigger sheep said, so, I know this is flypers your podcast twelve,
• 52:15
  But like so our larger, bigger breeding size sheeps head move offshore during
• 52:21
  the summer, so they live out on the near shore reefs for the most
• 52:22
  part, and that's what you got to have, big boat and all the
• 52:24
  crap to go out there and catch them. But in the winter they come
• 52:28
  in short. That's when they do their spawning and all that kind of stuff.
• 52:30
  So in the wintertime, docks and pier heads and you know, bridges
• 52:36
  and all that whole very large sheep's head size. You know, we're talking
• 52:39
  like, you know, six to twelve pounds sheephead off of a pilon next
• 52:44
  to somebody's dock, right Nantucky used do it a lot in kayaks and when
• 52:46
  we had john boats. But you got to get right up on those piles,
• 52:50
  so like your boat's rubbing raw, you know, because off Yeah,
• 52:54
  so your boats, you know, we would literally sit there on our job
• 52:57
  boat and want somebody to have one foot on a pilon to keep you off
• 53:00
  of it. You know, while you dangled your your fiddler crab down there.
• 53:02
  I'm not going to do that with my very pretty boat. But you
• 53:07
  know, I miss that. I miss creaking a little bit. But at
• 53:08
  the same time, I don't miss that much. You know, red fishing
• 53:13
  in the wintertime to me, like, you can hide in the wind in
• 53:15
  the creeks, But the problem is if you have a boat that can get
• 53:17
  into those little creeks, you've got to run across open water at some point.
• 53:21
  Yeah, and that winter time is going to find you out there in
• 53:23
  the open water and the mud. Cricket, Yeah, she'd always should always
• 53:29
  make you pay for it and pissing blood usually, but uh yeah, I've
• 53:32
  got need a kidney transplant in my fifties. Oh yeah, cricket. Yeah.
• 53:38
  What's what's my favorite line? Well, I'll let Tucker recite it for
• 53:42
  you. My favorite line whenever we come around a corner and the Everglades,
• 53:45
  and it'd be I mean, two foot white topped, like just staring your
• 53:49
  right in the face, and that's the way you gotta go. What did
• 53:52
  I say, Tucker, Mike? I turned around kind of like a bike,
• 53:55
  like even increased the throttle and they look at me and be like,
• 54:04
  ain't nothing what you knew about it? Man, I just gotta get through
• 54:06
  it. But you did because if you I had a fourteen foot long boat,
• 54:14
  if I got in it, I was we were going and diving.
• 54:16
  We were going through them and stuff like stop, it's either all them or
• 54:20
  through them, and I'd ride be on them. It would start last trip
• 54:22
  across Whitewater Bay where Mike is like, hey, why don't you try riding
• 54:27
  dimity style? Where I stood up and out onto a road just put about
• 54:32
  painter line basically on the front, and it was just like, oh,
• 54:37
  I've been doing this ship for like seven years. So picture this listener to
• 54:40
  your knees. Picture of this listeners. You're in Whitewater Bay circa twenty eighteen.
• 54:46
  You see a six foot five yetti of a human strapped over the painter
• 54:52
  line to a fourteen foot tunnel salt marsh charging at the blistering speed of nineteen
• 55:00
  knots. My mind carves mine cars weighs about as much as that did too.
• 55:06
  Oh yeah bounces, yeah. Well, the problem is when they're so
• 55:08
  light like it doesn't matter what whole shape you have. If you only weigh
• 55:13
  four hundred pounds, like, you're not going to penetrate that water at speed.
• 55:15
  It's concrete, so like you know, my hues as a nice sharp
• 55:19
  entry, but it also weighs, you know, fifteen hundred pounds, thousand
• 55:22
  pounds, I don't know. It's a lot. And so yeah, it's
• 55:24
  nice and soft. And if that don't work, I got big old trim
• 55:27
  tabs on the back. I can force the battle down so that it can't
• 55:30
  hop up and down. You got none of that with these. Well you
• 55:32
  might have the trimm tabs, but I can carve a little bit. When
• 55:35
  you start carving that, it takes on a little bit water get wet take
• 55:38
  I need as much water in my boat. Yeah, it just is what
• 55:40
  it is. I ain't got no, I can't, but I will say
• 55:44
  we have. There's nothing. There's nothing prettier though when you do get one
• 55:47
  of those miracle days where and honestly, here's things though. You can't have
• 55:51
  one day of low wind. You got to have about four or five days
• 55:53
  of low wind, and you need to fish on day three and that water
• 56:00
  clears out and you know, all the sediment and stuff settles down, this
• 56:02
  gets all stirred up in the wind, and you get like, I don't
• 56:07
  know if I don't know, I know you guys have I don't know if
• 56:08
  the guys listening to have. But when you can pull them up on a
• 56:10
  wintertime fly and it's gen clear water here in Charleston and you see two hundred
• 56:15
  red fish just in a wad, just hovering like it looks like they're just
• 56:19
  suspended, you know, like it's this weird and their hardest fucked you know
• 56:23
  to feed sometimes but everyone's while they turn on. I mean our biggest number
• 56:27
  days me and her one one day put twenty eight on the fly in like
• 56:30
  two hours. Anymore I've done, I've done another day, and I've done
• 56:35
  a couple other days. We're fifteen sixteen fish on the fly. But it
• 56:37
  was like just you get them in those weird spaces where like, uh,
• 56:43
  they're cold, but they still want to eat, and you can watch them
• 56:45
  and they just kind of suspend in that water and then and you watch them
• 56:51
  to slide up to uh you start sliding up. So I mean the trick
• 56:55
  there is, though, is you got to have a fly that doesn't go
• 56:59
  off way the bottom and it doesn't sit up high. They're not going to
• 57:01
  popper or gurglar, you know, they gotta like you want that fly to
• 57:07
  move as slow as the fish, and you want it to say. It's
• 57:10
  kind of like tarp and fishing in that where you want to stay in that
• 57:14
  zone in front of his nose as long as you can leave it there.
• 57:16
  You just I like deer hair, but not too tight. You can't pack
• 57:22
  it two tight, pack it too tight, She's gonna float. Michael,
• 57:24
  Michael, what what you got? Real? Boring all of a sudden?
• 57:29
  Well, yeah, should we listen? Let's listen to some other podcasts that
• 57:31
  are out there, all right? You want to Yeah, I mean,
• 57:34
  well we do listen to a lot of other podcasts. I hate that you
• 57:37
  said I was boring, man, Yeah, I mean, if you know
• 57:44
  what I really love to do. Uh, there's just nothing like mending.
• 57:50
  I just when I get out there on the water on like the the sob
• 57:55
  and just see a really nice current you just no fissure in. But Phil,
• 58:01
  what do you think I'll say? You've got to control drift. You
• 58:07
  said that before, and I love it when you have to control the drift.
• 58:13
  You're not mending properly. You do, then there's there's no Hey,
• 58:19
  hold on, hold on, hold on, Phil, Let me get you
• 58:21
  a beer. You haven't had a gold in a second. Okay, Old,
• 58:27
  I think we've got some beers over here. When you have beer.
• 58:43
  Hold on, Phil, let me just get back on the mic here.
• 58:46
  Hold on. Okay. So you were talking about mending properly. Yeah,
• 58:52
  it's I find it to be one of the most important things that you do.
• 59:00
  You're out. I've struggled over the years with you have to multiple hinds.
• 59:09
  You've got different Let's think you've sometimes got to do with upstream down the
• 59:16
  stream? What is rick? What do you think about mending? Do you
• 59:21
  like mending a lot? I enjoyed it. What's your favorite thing when the
• 59:27
  line lays back over and us you really wanted to go when you executed the
• 59:31
  way you intended up are you? Do you like it casts upstream and progressively
• 59:43
  manage your lying or do you prefer street across with a larger man. I've
• 59:47
  always found maybe even a downstream cast with a small I feel like you're rushing
• 59:54
  a little bit there. I think one thing you're overlooking is what's the ahead
• 1:00:00
  of yourline. I mean, you're you're talking about mending in the current space,
• 1:00:06
  but unless you know the exact link there that you're working with the I
• 1:00:09
  mean, there's no way to that the mat clariance. Hold on, what's
• 1:00:15
  that getting ahead of myself there? That's also a big indicator indicator size and
• 1:00:24
  critical, Bro. So anyway, this jack comes up just snow, no
• 1:00:38
  way, Bro's like, you know what the car a Wolf of the Water
• 1:00:52
  Love the Pops Salt Slayer podcast. Goud Seriously, I mean, I don't
• 1:00:59
  even know where I be without meeting all you guys. We we go.
• 1:01:01
  We crush it epically every day. We crushed, crush, crush, and
• 1:01:06
  it's just ten weights all day long. If you're not you're gonna keep him
• 1:01:13
  out of the top of the nine Rick you no, you're not gonna keep
• 1:01:16
  playing. What do you think? Man? First off, I think fly
• 1:01:20
  fishing is completely overrated. I'm all about mullet, live mullet under the dock,
• 1:01:25
  no circle ofs fuck you give me a jay hook multiple hey, hold
• 1:01:31
  on a second, Trevor just got back from sail fishing in the day,
• 1:01:36
  nothing but ten weights on sales. Trevor, what'd you do. It was
• 1:01:39
  absolutely mag bank mag Bae, absolutely incredible. You get the weight, you
• 1:01:46
  throw it out there and just wait for the right moment and then you just
• 1:01:50
  start to strip and your pop and I want I want to hear lips.
• 1:02:00
  That's what I want to hear. You get that bill grab? Bro?
• 1:02:04
  Did you get the bill grab? Shot? Right beside? I'll be like,
• 1:02:07
  yeah, Bro, anyway, our sponsor, we gotta talk to our
• 1:02:12
  sponsor. Salt Lie Grundies are on point. I even have grundiesdiesies. My
• 1:02:27
  undies are made out of PBC Bro. That's how salt life I am.
• 1:02:30
  Bro. So anyway, like I lean over to the pilot and I'm like,
• 1:02:42
  I'm like, have you ever even landed on Old Guinea before? I
• 1:02:45
  mean, like, I mean, I know this is a G five and
• 1:02:49
  all, but obviously this guy was. It was just insane. Anyway,
• 1:02:52
  I spilled uh my Pappy van Wingle all over the back of his bottom,
• 1:03:00
  all over the back of his collar. It was. It was hilarious.
• 1:03:02
  You're telling me you went from Tunisia to New Guinea to Old Guinea all in
• 1:03:07
  one day and fished three different spots. Well, the here's how it happened.
• 1:03:12
  I mean what happened was, uh, yes, I had the G
• 1:03:15
  five all gas, which of course the cigar. I had the G five
• 1:03:20
  a gas up anyway, and I'd heard that there was a good hatch going
• 1:03:23
  off in New Guinea. But when I rolled up to New Guinea and the
• 1:03:27
  porters picked up my luggage and we're about to he with New Guinea. Yeah,
• 1:03:31
  I get a quick phone call from Calvin van der Horst and Van Norris
• 1:03:36
  tells me, oh, New Guinea is two weeks out, bro, you
• 1:03:39
  need to head over to Old Guinea. No one even knows about it.
• 1:03:43
  Yeah, so Van rs gave me some coordinates. I threw it into the
• 1:03:45
  pilot's ends. He told me that, you know, we couldn't do this
• 1:03:49
  legal FAA. A few hundred dollars bills later and we are over Old Guinea,
• 1:03:53
  if you know what I'm saying. So yes, Tunisia New Guinea,
• 1:03:58
  Old Guinea. One lap, no problem, it's not an issue. Still
• 1:04:01
  had gas to get home in time for tea. You know what. Let's
• 1:04:05
  talk about. Yeah, it was amazing. Talk about the Philson gear.
• 1:04:10
  Let's talk about the Philson unless you're going to talk about how they've sold out
• 1:04:15
  their souls for the poors to be able to buy their gear. I mean,
• 1:04:17
  guys, we've been seeing some translately. I'm on the board. Let's
• 1:04:19
  just chill out for a second. When it comes to Philson. We're trying
• 1:04:23
  to do what we can with the stuff. It's one of my seventeen companies.
• 1:04:26
  We're trying, We're trying, We're trying hard. Rick, I told
• 1:04:29
  you that. Okay, we got some good ship. Just all I'm saying
• 1:04:31
  is if I if I see one more, who's talking? Who the fuck's
• 1:04:36
  talking here? You're right, who's worth the most we're talking? Listen,
• 1:04:44
  I run this fucking podcast. Okay. If I'm talking, no one else
• 1:04:48
  is talking. Okay, no one else is fucking You're right, Rick,
• 1:04:51
  the decorum was completely Not on my fucking plane on the next trip. Not
• 1:04:57
  on my plane. Sorry, I'm sorry. I I apologize, all right,
• 1:05:00
  No, I'm sorry. Let's just get back to talking about old Guinea
• 1:05:03
  and then what we're going to talk about just slay in the Philippines. Yes.
• 1:05:09
  Also privatizing as much water as possible in the Florida Keys would be the
• 1:05:13
  next subject, for sure. I would really like to just keep people off
• 1:05:16
  of some of my spots, primarily the Bowling Alley. I would really like
• 1:05:21
  to I would like to own that. Craig Keys another point at which I
• 1:05:27
  would really like no one to ever be. And you know what I've gotten.
• 1:05:31
  I've got deep pockets. I've got I've got my pockets. Don't stop.
• 1:05:35
  I'm touching ankles, Paul. I mean, I'm sorry, not Paul,
• 1:05:39
  I'm touching ankles. I'm touching ankles here. That's how deep my pockets
• 1:05:42
  are. What you know, if we all went in together, if we
• 1:05:47
  were to pull ourrs Christmas Island. Oh that's true, yeah, Chris,
• 1:05:58
  Oh my god, we're not that bad. I know. I got a
• 1:06:02
  little boring there for a minute with the low stuff. I mean, but
• 1:06:05
  at least spinning beer here is a little more interesting that. That was crazy.
• 1:06:11
  You wanted to privatize the keys, You wanted to privatize Christmas, Christmas
• 1:06:21
  and all that other podcasts. Yeah, that's that's a shitty world out there.
• 1:06:27
  We're gonna take a little break. We're gonna come back and call Andrew.
• 1:06:31
  Yeah, folds here it is. Yeah, it's Folders in. See
• 1:06:40
  I smelled it. He's back. You have to leave. What what are
• 1:06:45
  you guys? Talking about we know what's going on here. We know you're
• 1:06:47
  trying to each other. What no, oh, please, brothers and sisters,
• 1:06:51
  don't look at each other like that. He sent you to West Africa
• 1:06:55
  for a reason, Ryan, to separate you and your sister. Crazy.
• 1:06:59
  Yeah, what's this? He's my present this year Jesus Christ. Okay,
• 1:07:10
  oh, my God, and your son and I'm in love with your daughter,
• 1:07:15
  Ryan. What is in that box? What's in the box? Ryan?
• 1:07:20
  It's right a bitch, unbelievable, Holy shit. I love that we
• 1:07:32
  have so much in common because we grew up together. I just want to
• 1:07:38
  wake up every morning to the smell of you and Foalter's Columbian dark roast.
• 1:07:43
  I mean, will you make me the happiest brother? Sn I just love
• 1:07:57
  my brother. Fool Is twas the night before Christmas, and in your backyard
• 1:08:20
  there's a trailer full of possums. Richard Caso ain't far. Santa won't stop
• 1:08:27
  by, not while the old Saint nick he might lose one of his reindeer
• 1:08:30
  to Richard Caso's thirty six. So tucking your bed so warm and at peace,
• 1:08:36
  the only thing in your stocking is Caso's possum grease, Merry Christmas from
• 1:08:43
  the Caso Corporation Family to your family. Jingle bells, Jingle bells, Jingle
• 1:08:53
  away? What fire is to rise les focal slash h m hm hm not
• 1:09:20
  me because I agree. Listen up all right, had a couple more segments.
• 1:09:30
  We're gonna call Andrew Lincoln right now out in Colorado. He does lights.
• 1:09:34
  Does he fish at all? Yeah? Good story. I was like,
• 1:09:39
  I don't know anything about lights at all. So he's the light man.
• 1:09:44
  He's uh. Green Sky Bluegrass is really well known for their live show
• 1:09:49
  and the light show, so it's almost like when Pink Floyd was known for
• 1:09:53
  their light show. So he's definitely like an extension of the band. He's
• 1:09:57
  part of the band. He's a big fly fishman. So when he goes.
• 1:10:00
  I met him at Pala Meta Club. He came up, was staying
• 1:10:04
  at one of the other lodges and started talking to us and uh, and
• 1:10:09
  so whenever he travels all these places where they do the shows, he gets
• 1:10:12
  chances to fish. So he's traveling all the damn time. So that's kind
• 1:10:15
  of the idea in UH getting to ask him some questions and y'all talking to
• 1:10:21
  yourself while I I can't wait to ask him how he said, how what
• 1:10:27
  his Christmas laught? Like? Like me really like, yeah, I have
• 1:10:32
  said. I remember, y'all are talking here, not so much there.
• 1:10:36
  I'm talking to everywhere. Poem Andrew Lincoln, what's up, buddy. Let
• 1:10:45
  me let the audience clap for you. Uh, you can't hear. But
• 1:10:47
  they're they're entus, they're loving, they are sorry. Oh yeah, he
• 1:10:54
  was polite. It was a polite appla you're used to hearing the crowd applause.
• 1:10:58
  Though, Hey, I know you don't need to remember remember names.
• 1:11:00
  Where we got Mike, Tucker and Kenny and I'm Paul, as you know,
• 1:11:04
  Mike, good to meet you, Yny Paul. Who's Paul? Yeah,
• 1:11:09
  you'll find out one day. And then yeah, man, appreciate the
• 1:11:12
  time. I kind of, I kind of on the recording, explained a
• 1:11:15
  little bit about what you do and told these guys basically I summed it up.
• 1:11:18
  And as he's a member of the band, he does the light stuff,
• 1:11:24
  this crazy light show that Greenskyplowgrass is so well known for, and that
• 1:11:28
  you basically fish as you tour the country as much as you can and then
• 1:11:31
  fish obviously when you're not working. But that's kind of what I told these
• 1:11:35
  guys, and we'll just kind of hit you with some questions. If you
• 1:11:39
  don't mind, we can learn a little bit about what you do. Give
• 1:11:42
  me. I'm walking downstairs. I hope you guys don't mind. I'm probably
• 1:11:45
  gonna be holding the baby here. That's fine. We got I got a
• 1:11:49
  new I got a new born. My wife's been feeding him for the past
• 1:11:54
  while, and it's time for her to take a break. You're first or
• 1:11:59
  yeah, my first? Man's buddy, my wife? Can you guys hear
• 1:12:05
  me? Ok? Yeah, fund that good, buddy, your gold.
• 1:12:09
  Okay, we got my wife. My wife's here too. She's gonna leave,
• 1:12:12
  but she's okay. Hi mantle one, thanks man. Yeah, we're
• 1:12:17
  stoked. You don't know us, but me and Tucker have fresh, fairly
• 1:12:21
  fresh little ones. Mine's what sixteen months, yours is like eighteen eighteen months.
• 1:12:27
  Yeah, so we weren't we weren't that far removed from what you're at
• 1:12:31
  right now. We get it, buddy, that's a big deal. Thanks
• 1:12:33
  for talking to it. Yeah. I congrats to you guys too. It's
• 1:12:39
  it's weird. You can't kill eazy. You think you can pretty tough.
• 1:12:44
  They're pretty tough. We're finding that out more. And they're a lot tougher
• 1:12:48
  than you give them credit for. I promise. Yeah, I'm only dropped
• 1:12:50
  in a couple of times. Yeah, thank you, thank you. Recover
• 1:12:54
  from that. I'm a nurse too, don't worry about it. I got
• 1:12:56
  the medical training. That's good. You're good, Andrew. So you're you're
• 1:13:00
  taking a little time off obviously right now. When is the next time you
• 1:13:04
  got you join the band back on the road. Uh, I'm actually jumping
• 1:13:10
  out in a few days for four just for a three or four night run
• 1:13:14
  we're doing. Uh, we're doing four days in Michigan Cup, one night
• 1:13:17
  in Saginaw, one night in Detroit, and uh one night or two nights
• 1:13:23
  in Kalamazoo, which is where the band's actually from, Kalamazoo, Michigan.
• 1:13:26
  Oh cool. Nice? And how long have you been with with the career?
• 1:13:30
  Yeah, I was gonna say, I think they're treating me still.
• 1:13:32
  Well, they're letting me have all this time. It's because we're really family.
• 1:13:35
  I've been with him for like twelve years now. Wait, what is
• 1:13:39
  it's to almost got it where I'm coming up on thirteen years. And you
• 1:13:44
  know, before I knew you, and I've seen Greece Green Sky a couple
• 1:13:47
  of times back in the old days before they they kind of did larger venues
• 1:13:51
  like they're doing now. But whenever you hear about people talking about the band,
• 1:13:57
  obviously they talk about the music first, but that goes straight to light
• 1:14:00
  show, like they don't lie. They talked about the lights first, and
• 1:14:03
  then of course I do, of course I did. But what is man,
• 1:14:10
  I'm kidding. I appreciate that. That's uh, it's something that has
• 1:14:15
  certainly humbled me and throughout the year. So how often if you're I get
• 1:14:19
  to think about it sometimes because I do get tons of praise and it's much
• 1:14:24
  appreciated for all the hard work. And also it just makes you feel good
• 1:14:27
  when you feel like you're doing a good job. You know, absolutely,
• 1:14:29
  man. And is it kind of like gear with lights? Like fly fishing
• 1:14:32
  has tons of gear. It's fun to is there always something new coming out
• 1:14:35
  in lights? We're like, oh, man, I gotta have that like
• 1:14:38
  that, that'll do that. I was literally I just don't have a shower.
• 1:14:42
  Actually, I just I just took a sauna. Boys. I yeah,
• 1:14:46
  we built a sauna last last year, and so I just I don't
• 1:14:53
  want to. As my wife said, she's like, you're gonna get on
• 1:14:55
  that, like it's like, excuse your sound like Joe Rogan and no time
• 1:14:59
  on the po oh. Yeah, I just I just didn't well to do
• 1:15:04
  that, you'd have to have fell the trees yourself, cut the lumber bill,
• 1:15:10
  done all of that. Exactly, that's hilarious. He just made that
• 1:15:13
  joke. I made that joke to her. I was like, I'm gonna
• 1:15:15
  tell him, Yeah, I built that motherfucker myself. I had somebody,
• 1:15:20
  But that's hilarious. I literally made the Exactly. We have a buddy up
• 1:15:25
  the road who's like this prostyar badass. He lives up in the woods in
• 1:15:28
  silver Plum and he keeps Megane's like, I bet Dan did that. He
• 1:15:32
  probably did. Maybe you should have married Evan. He's pretty hot too.
• 1:15:39
  Oh yeah, that's that's not good. You need guess what does he have
• 1:15:42
  a one month old in the full time job all the time? No,
• 1:15:46
  yeah, exactly exactly. He's I don't know what you felt about I don't
• 1:15:51
  know what you felt about your free time leading into this man. But I
• 1:15:56
  just want to be the first to tell you it's gone. Uh you you
• 1:16:00
  no longer have it. You're gonna need to come to terms with that.
• 1:16:03
  It's weird. I hate it, but uh yeah, that's just it.
• 1:16:09
  That's it, that's all. That's the thing. He can travel for work,
• 1:16:11
  so then he gets to like do things outside of well, well there,
• 1:16:17
  I don't I like the angle. I'm mad that I didn't come up
• 1:16:20
  with it. Somehow. You didn't do travel nursing, that's true, I
• 1:16:25
  didn't. I stuck at home. I mean, so Andrew like, let's
• 1:16:28
  let's throw the baby. Not let's not throw the baby anywhere, but if
• 1:16:32
  you throw all they're basically they're basically made out a rubber. At this point,
• 1:16:36
  let's throw the baby. Let's go pre baby, like when you when
• 1:16:40
  you take breaks and you're at home, Like, do you fish a lot
• 1:16:42
  around Colorado? Yeah? I do, not as much as I wish I
• 1:16:47
  did. And I actually so I've got I live right behind Red Rocks Anitheater,
• 1:16:51
  about thirty five minutes outside of them, or not even thirty minutes like
• 1:16:56
  the downtown. But I have Bear Creek in my front yard, so I
• 1:17:00
  have I've got little Like they say, there's an occasional twenty inch or someone
• 1:17:03
  around. I've never seen one. I've seen like fourteen inches in here,
• 1:17:06
  a little there, a little brown trout and occasional brooks and rainbows. But
• 1:17:11
  I just like, don't fish that ship that much, just because I just
• 1:17:13
  like love giant fish. Yeah, so I I bought a bass boat so
• 1:17:18
  I could chase pike musky and giant lake trout on the fly. You're that
• 1:17:24
  guy then I like that. Yeah, But dude, I've told I've kind
• 1:17:27
  of I'm kind of like I want to revert to like a raft and it's
• 1:17:30
  like I'm going to live in Colorado, like be the guy that has a
• 1:17:33
  raft and goes and takes I need to hook him up with our buddy Ben,
• 1:17:36
  who lives up in uh my buddy Ben and you've probably seen him on
• 1:17:41
  the old YouTube's the old huge fly fisherman himself. He lives. Oh that
• 1:17:44
  guy, that guy's Yeah, he's a good friend of ours, all of
• 1:17:46
  ours here thing, but he lives not far from you. That guy.
• 1:17:49
  We need to hook you up with him. Yeah, and I'm sure he'll
• 1:17:54
  take advantage of your glitter boat as well, which would be ill. Yeah,
• 1:17:59
  cool, I I I just need to get back on them. It's
• 1:18:00
  like, well, that's what got me into fly fishing, was fishing for
• 1:18:03
  trout, and like you realize that so much of what you love for about
• 1:18:08
  fly fishing is like really just where it takes you, you know, and
• 1:18:11
  like, for example, punt al And where I spent a ton of time
• 1:18:14
  and like all these places, like I just love, like what fly fishing
• 1:18:17
  just be there and to be a bass boat guy. I'm driving out to
• 1:18:21
  these dry ass hot Colorado reservoir Well the water's not hot, but Colorado reservoirs
• 1:18:29
  that are generally man made, and yeah, they might be in the mountains
• 1:18:31
  and they're beautiful, but it's like totally different. Feel like standing on a
• 1:18:34
  bass boat casting nine inch flies all day and then like just hammering shoreline with
• 1:18:40
  a streamer out out of rowing a boat, which is really fucking fun.
• 1:18:44
  And I kind of forget that because I'm honestly just not really a trout guy.
• 1:18:46
  Like I have no fucking interest in sitting and standing in a cold river
• 1:18:51
  with watching a bobber like I do not. You're I have no interest in
• 1:18:58
  it, dude, I'm I'm all about to eat. That's why I like
• 1:19:00
  red fish and permit and that stuff. I'm famous for around town. I
• 1:19:03
  grew up in western North Carolina trout fishing. That's what I did. It
• 1:19:06
  was my thing. I moved to the coast and I was famous in town
• 1:19:11
  in the trout in our shop, which we had people traveling all over to
• 1:19:14
  go trout fishing in Montana, and YadA, YadA, YadA, and I
• 1:19:16
  would I would always tell them the same thing every time, with no joke
• 1:19:19
  and no no irony involved, that I wouldn't drive across town to catch a
• 1:19:24
  fucking trout. Yeah, yeah, I know. I'd rather fish for a
• 1:19:30
  small We don't even have good small mouth here, but I'd like rather do
• 1:19:33
  that. I don't know, I just but that's said. I do have
• 1:19:39
  buddies. I've got a bunch of buddies that are really good trout fishermen,
• 1:19:42
  a couple of which my really good buddy, Jake, lives out and tell
• 1:19:45
  your ad. And he grew up fishing on a river not to be spoken,
• 1:19:53
  but that's like a really special stretch of river that he actually bought some
• 1:19:57
  land on. And you really can't access this river because it's most super private,
• 1:20:01
  but it but he got a piece of land on there and has access
• 1:20:04
  to it, and they're a giant fucking brown trout and like that. That's
• 1:20:10
  more appealing to me. Like watching a twenty four inch bround trot or bigger
• 1:20:13
  come up and eat a streamer that I'm into that. I do have a
• 1:20:16
  quick question, Andrew. You mentioned you've done some saltwater fishing. Have you?
• 1:20:20
  Have you done much tarfin fishing? Not enough? Never caught. I've
• 1:20:26
  caught. I've caught. I've caught like forty pounders, like large babies in
• 1:20:31
  in. Uh shit, what's up called? Shoot? It's one of the
• 1:20:36
  Mexican fisheries. It's really cool. It's rate north No no, not not
• 1:20:42
  a fish ball alash of fish, real regard tos. But this is raped
• 1:20:45
  down from there. It's not cheat them all, it's uh them all the
• 1:20:47
  other way. I know what you're talking about. Well, I'll tell you
• 1:20:50
  honestly, once you get to like eighty pounds and it's not fun anymore.
• 1:20:55
  So like really like the perfect the perfect fish is about seven twenty five pounds
• 1:21:00
  and pissed off fifty to seventy. Yeah, that's like that's the money.
• 1:21:04
  I want to do the buck. I want to do the buck, fifteen
• 1:21:08
  buck forty one time and then just like, yeah, I've heard sixty to
• 1:21:12
  eighty pounds. It's a lot of grunting and sweating and cussing. Man.
• 1:21:15
  I mean it's just I mean, it's it is. It's cool to see
• 1:21:17
  him come up beside the boat, but as smaller regret. Yeah, you're
• 1:21:21
  like, and then you get it right next to the boat. Yeah,
• 1:21:25
  and you think it's done, it's not done, and it's not. Then
• 1:21:29
  you got to grab their face. No, well I was just gonna no
• 1:21:31
  no, yeah, because then you got you're living in the leader. That's
• 1:21:34
  it. The leader is the only thing outside of your ride, and you're
• 1:21:39
  pulling your ass off and he's still swimming for additional thirty to forty five minutes.
• 1:21:44
  Yeah, maybe they haven't chewed through your leader. I do know that
• 1:21:49
  he loves bastards. I don't think I've told you I love bass vision.
• 1:21:53
  So this is a good story. It's good he's on here because he can
• 1:21:55
  tell his side of it. But he texted me at like three o'clock Charleston
• 1:22:00
  time on like I think it was a Saturday, it was like two or
• 1:22:02
  three. He's like, hey, man, just a couple of months ago.
• 1:22:05
  Yeah, it wasn't even that long ago. Yeah it was. Do
• 1:22:09
  you know anyone in Dallas that can bring me a fly rod? Right behind
• 1:22:14
  the gig is a creek and there's like four bass just sitting in it.
• 1:22:20
  Yeah it wasn't. It wasn't a creak, dude. It was a drainage
• 1:22:25
  ditch. It's about it's about five feet across and like just full of tires
• 1:22:30
  and like papers, right in the middle of fucking Dallas, off the Trinity.
• 1:22:33
  So he tells me where he is, and I look on the map,
• 1:22:36
  not even a mile away as tailwaters fly shot like he's right around the
• 1:22:42
  corner. So within ten minutes, I've got this arsenal guy is trying to
• 1:22:45
  figure out who's gonna take it, literally, and I think you had to
• 1:22:49
  ride in your hand. Thirty minutes later, I think, and then and
• 1:22:53
  then I'll let you take it from here, basically, because an hour later
• 1:22:56
  I had pictures of him. You're like a fly Well we broke, what
• 1:23:01
  do you need. I've read it for you anywhere in the world. I
• 1:23:05
  was gonna say, I didn't say, do you know. I was like,
• 1:23:08
  Paul, I know you know somebody, so tell me the rest of
• 1:23:15
  the story kind of were unfolded when the guy showed up. Yeah, it's
• 1:23:17
  pretty fun. That came with that kid's name, the young young kid.
• 1:23:20
  They standed up like it ended up changing. It was like five guys on
• 1:23:25
  the text. Everyone's like rooting each other on, like I can't do it,
• 1:23:27
  you do it. And then and then finally one of the younger shop
• 1:23:31
  kids was like, I'll be there in five always count a shop. He
• 1:23:36
  comes down and I just I had this is how I saw. It was
• 1:23:39
  pretty cool. We're like sound checking and if you remember that video we sent
• 1:23:44
  you, Paul, the band was actually sound checking. They had a Lindsay
• 1:23:48
  Lou, this really fantastic vocalist and she's she's a musician, she plays a
• 1:23:53
  bunch of stuff. But she she was up on stage with us too,
• 1:23:56
  and they were saying you and me, you know ye. Then So so
• 1:24:06
  I'm like standing there and I'm looking at this creek and I'm like, there's
• 1:24:10
  gotta be some carp in there, and all of a sudden, I just
• 1:24:13
  see a wake, like and this was from like two hundred yards. It
• 1:24:16
  was so far, dude, like it was a big wake, and I
• 1:24:19
  was like, oh my God, not two hundred yards. That would make
• 1:24:23
  me really yeah, but you know that's a classic American like gets on the
• 1:24:29
  front of flats boot and he's like, can you see fishman And he's like,
• 1:24:32
  yeah, yeah, you know, I've probably seen it like one hundred
• 1:24:35
  and fifty yards the guys. But I saw, yeah, I see awake
• 1:24:45
  and I saw. I walk out there like immediately I was done with my
• 1:24:49
  job as kind of a ship gig for me that day. And then I
• 1:24:54
  walk out there and look down and boom, there's like four bass cruise in
• 1:24:58
  the shoreline. I thought they were gonna be carved because it was such a
• 1:25:00
  big wake, but they were like up high in the water calumn cruising.
• 1:25:03
  And then the there was like the front there's something it might have even four,
• 1:25:10
  like a solid large mouth, and then there's a few smaller ones just
• 1:25:15
  starting down the boat behind him, clearly eating. And I was like,
• 1:25:18
  oh, so yeah, they're twenty five minutes later, I had a fly
• 1:25:24
  out of my hand and like thirty minutes later we can't maybe actually we walked
• 1:25:28
  for like fifteen twenty minutes before we found them again. Oh really, they
• 1:25:31
  were moving around a lot. It was off sight for I think there was
• 1:25:33
  only one pod in that little drainage ditch. Really, yeah, but it
• 1:25:36
  does that does all those ditches apparently go out to the h whatever the river's
• 1:25:42
  trinity yep, okay. And so anyway, and there was a big ass
• 1:25:47
  what do you call those things, this big rat nutrient nutrients, Yeah,
• 1:25:54
  dude, giants, nutria, hang nutrients, hanging out like doing. I've
• 1:26:00
  got I've got really sick video that because he just he was just cleaning himself
• 1:26:03
  and like we were fishing and we're just walking five feet from him, and
• 1:26:10
  they were in Louisana. Big big fucker. I mean he was forty pounds
• 1:26:16
  Jesus bigger. He's bigger than my child, that's for sure. Yeah,
• 1:26:24
  you got a little little loved right there. Yeah for sure. But anyway,
• 1:26:30
  they we we couldn't we couldn't find him, like cruising again, then
• 1:26:32
  I just found one single slowly moving but it was muddy. We think there
• 1:26:36
  was some carf in some of the putting it up, But I never saw
• 1:26:40
  any car. You wanted to be car Yeah, you mentioned a lot.
• 1:26:45
  No, dude, there's there's jack getting off the car. I like,
• 1:26:53
  but they uh, anyway, the uh I see him going, and I
• 1:26:56
  was trying poppers, like all up and down, just trying to get me
• 1:26:58
  to popper. I figured it was be no problem easy to find him like
• 1:27:01
  that. But finally I just put a crayfish on, dropped it rate in
• 1:27:04
  front of this guy five feet out and he ate it on the bottom and
• 1:27:09
  Paul picture. I was stond. I just shove him the picture. Yea.
• 1:27:14
  It's like it's like, you know, like a two to three and
• 1:27:15
  a half pound bass or something like that. But it's just one of those
• 1:27:17
  things like the whole story, like, I mean, that fish pounds and
• 1:27:23
  it wouldn't outweigh how cool the story was, you know, I got to
• 1:27:26
  ask you, why is it that you don't travel around with like a four
• 1:27:30
  or five piece I do? He doesn't, now I did, no,
• 1:27:33
  Well, oh that's the best part of the Well, my favorite part of
• 1:27:36
  the story is that I got a free flyer out of this because the tailwater
• 1:27:40
  dude, Paul Paul, I was just looking for one to borrow. I
• 1:27:43
  figured someone would like drive up with a rod vot on top of the truck
• 1:27:45
  and be like, let's go you like or something, but to your friends
• 1:27:48
  with Paul park so you just got a free rod, dude. The man
• 1:27:56
  my house, Paul, I actually do have a punk Hey, we called
• 1:28:02
  it. We called it Fly one One, just called Fly one One.
• 1:28:08
  That's awesome. Mike. What is the name of that book you loan me.
• 1:28:12
  It's about the guy, the lawyer that travels around Michigan. Oh,
• 1:28:15
  that's that's Robert Traver Trout Madness. It's a classic. Yeah, I've heard
• 1:28:20
  that's really good. No, if you haven't read it, dude, it
• 1:28:23
  is really fun. It's required reading. It's a fun written The fact that
• 1:28:27
  you're going to spend so much time in Michigan here in the next couple of
• 1:28:30
  days. I guarantee you if you read that book post that that word venture,
• 1:28:35
  you're gonna be like, fuck, I should have I should have gone
• 1:28:40
  to like you're not going to get to all these royal areas, but probably
• 1:28:43
  woudn't have time. But I don't know. I know you say you're not
• 1:28:46
  a trout guy, but no, no, no, dude, I've spent
• 1:28:49
  a lot of time trout fishing in Michigan because that's what got me back into
• 1:28:54
  trout fishing. Because they have not only giant brown trout, they have a
• 1:28:58
  pretty good Steelhead run a lot of those rivers with salmon as well, and
• 1:29:03
  well, dude, and the mousing thing is like, no joke. I've
• 1:29:06
  never done the Hex hatch there, which is a huge thing there. They've
• 1:29:10
  got guyant Hex's hatches and they start fishing them at like ten pm, fishing
• 1:29:13
  until three in the mornings when the hatches are going on. But the a
• 1:29:15
  lot of these guys. That's where I got shown protry troutfishing. That's where
• 1:29:19
  I caught my first two foot round and I had already been trout fishing for
• 1:29:24
  you know, eight years. I caught was on a mouse pattern at night
• 1:29:29
  on these rivers in Michigan. Some of some guys through the through the Music
• 1:29:32
  thing I met and they were like, yeah, you want to come do
• 1:29:34
  something super sick, like come with us starting after the show. We're going
• 1:29:40
  to go. Now. Now these guys are now, these guys are homies
• 1:29:44
  and like I used to make a year trip out of I haven'm up in
• 1:29:45
  a couple of years, but they're this these this group of guys was essentially
• 1:29:50
  the four four of the four of the ten guides on the Pure Marquette in
• 1:29:55
  Michigan. Out of ball in Michigan and dude that mousing like you'll they are
• 1:30:00
  so tactical, they would this is how. I'll just give you the one
• 1:30:02
  minute breakdown of how my first experience. It's like they were not going out
• 1:30:06
  till after midnight. It was like one am. We get to the river.
• 1:30:11
  They suit they suit they suit me up and like waiters that don't fit
• 1:30:14
  me and they they're like all suited up. They've got like clear glasses on
• 1:30:17
  because they don't mess around with like big mouse hooks moving around like yard,
• 1:30:23
  is this winter or fall? No, No, it's that's that heat of
• 1:30:26
  summer June, June and June through August. The temperatures there is like winter
• 1:30:32
  for us. Yeah, you're wearing jackets. Yeah. Are you doing steel
• 1:30:38
  hat out there? Or is it just trap? Oh? I don't do
• 1:30:42
  any of that. Ship. The only reason I read Robert Travers because it's
• 1:30:45
  literary genius and it's fantastic riding it. Never maybe want to fish Michigan,
• 1:30:51
  Michigan. So we're going out at midnight. Yeah, I'll keep it quick.
• 1:31:01
  But like that. They they're so tactle. They've got radios for everybody.
• 1:31:04
  They have a third radio for me. You're not allowed to turn on
• 1:31:08
  anything other than your red light. They hand you they hand you a flashlight
• 1:31:13
  which I or sorry, a headlamp, which I then eventually bought my own
• 1:31:15
  because I got it that like has the right click, like when you hold
• 1:31:23
  it the right way, it turns the red light on so that you can
• 1:31:26
  just flash the water with white really quick, go back to red, and
• 1:31:29
  then like and then turn off your light when you gets like they're so all
• 1:31:33
  these rules and stuff and about how to walk in the river. It's like
• 1:31:36
  hunting, dude. And then what they do is everyone has these glow lines,
• 1:31:41
  and you take an infrared flashlight or a black you like, go up
• 1:31:46
  and down your line and it makes it glow. And then we break off
• 1:31:50
  into groups. So it's like one the first guy goes the lead position,
• 1:31:56
  goes and he walks about one hundred yards. Then the next guy goes,
• 1:31:58
  all right, I'm going, and then the third guy goes and that's called
• 1:32:00
  the chum up position. The last the last position, and you're like following
• 1:32:05
  your buddies in the dark. And it looks like lightsabers, like they're perfect
• 1:32:10
  loops in the middle of the river like wait or something. By the baby
• 1:32:18
  this story like some sniper. Ohta, sounds like sorcery. It sounds like
• 1:32:26
  fish and sorcery. It's just gas. It sounds it sounds like stuff you're
• 1:32:35
  telling me. I'll wrap this up, but like this, it's so sick.
• 1:32:40
  Like the first time, they were like, all right, but he
• 1:32:42
  comes up the rate. They're all right, Lincoln, make sure your light's
• 1:32:44
  off. I'm just gonna guide you here. Don't turn on any light on.
• 1:32:45
  They're like, you're gonna step it by and see where you are.
• 1:32:47
  Take about step forty feet down. Now. They're like, you feel that
• 1:32:51
  rock with your right foot. I'm like, yeah, step back, it's
• 1:32:56
  gonna get really deep. But you need to cross here. And they're like,
• 1:32:58
  you're gonna take a forty five degree and then right when you get to
• 1:33:00
  the other side of the river stop, make a cast forty five degrees across
• 1:33:04
  the stream. We just moved a fish that we know about. We caught
• 1:33:08
  him two years ago. He was twenty four. We think he's more in
• 1:33:10
  the twenty six twenty seven range. And he certainly sounds like that. And
• 1:33:13
  they'll they'll come up and they'll like flush the toilet bowl in your mouth and
• 1:33:16
  miss and it's like this unbelievable like that, and they just know that river.
• 1:33:23
  They're literally like, okay, you feel that rock, like take a
• 1:33:26
  step, three steps down, step over the stump, like unbelief. So
• 1:33:30
  they know the water pretty well. I caught a barracuda on a hot dog
• 1:33:32
  one time. That's crazy. I mean, that's true. I used to
• 1:33:41
  fish the White River a lot, and we'd go out at night, but
• 1:33:44
  it was more of like a you know, you wake up at three in
• 1:33:46
  the morning official sunrise, but it was it was not scary. It was
• 1:33:50
  just real spooky. It's really weird, dude. It is so the things
• 1:33:55
  you hear is crazy. Rivers that not are different animals. Yeah, back
• 1:34:00
  in North we fished there was a limbo river dumps into a lake in Westerkana
• 1:34:04
  and walleye come up into that river to spawn and so like it was a
• 1:34:09
  big thing at night to go out there and fish for walleye in this river
• 1:34:12
  mouth at night, and you'd be, yeah, it's weird. Yeah,
• 1:34:15
  it's been a lot of nights there and it's a weird experience for sure.
• 1:34:18
  I mean, deer hunting the woods are different at oh, yeah, like
• 1:34:23
  there was something out here and is going to get suddenly everybody believes in the
• 1:34:27
  Boogeyman whenever you're walking through the woods. And yeah, it's not like you're
• 1:34:30
  afraid like mission, you're not afraid of like the Mountain lion or something like
• 1:34:33
  that. Or it's like it's like like, truthfully, it's just meth heads.
• 1:34:45
  I mean, really, meth heads is the only thing you should really
• 1:34:47
  be worried about. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, that's it. That's it.
• 1:34:55
  Yeah, So I fished the French broad for Musku one time. Part
• 1:35:04
  of your entire story. You called a blue and a Palm by my house
• 1:35:09
  yesterday. What's what's the next town you guys are playing at that you kind
• 1:35:13
  of have a good in on fishing or a good fishing oportunity. I already
• 1:35:17
  know. I'm fucking stoked. I'm uh my buddy just reached out to me.
• 1:35:20
  It's a guy that I met, Allen he Fork. He's a he
• 1:35:28
  works for Did you meet Ted Truglio done into town? Are you serious,
• 1:35:38
  Funny Tucker, No, I've I've never met him. I thought for a
• 1:35:44
  secon, No, I have not. Okay, he runs he just hosts.
• 1:35:53
  He runs a fly shop out in Washington and he hosts trips down to
• 1:35:59
  Danny's Lodge and he does was like he like blocks out like three four months
• 1:36:01
  at a time and brings frings like eight groups through. It's rad he kills
• 1:36:05
  it and uh, he brought down this podcast. What's that? But uh,
• 1:36:14
  you're good. I just put to Allen guy. He met him down
• 1:36:17
  there, and he one of the guys that was with him. One of
• 1:36:19
  his guys now is in Buffalo, New York. And I did not think
• 1:36:23
  I would be fishing in Buffalo, New York in February, but he was
• 1:36:27
  like, dude, the Steelhead will be on. Yeah, yeah, there
• 1:36:29
  you go. So little little great like Steelhead is my next one, which
• 1:36:33
  is gonna be early February, like the Sick or something like that. A
• 1:36:38
  big, big Dallas Cowboys town too. Yeah, we don't need to talk
• 1:36:42
  about the Eagles either. We'll just we won't bring up none of us can
• 1:36:47
  beat the nine lost better than the Cowboys lost. Paul almost almost called you
• 1:36:54
  and start talking because I hadn't be able to talk ship all year because the
• 1:36:57
  Panthers are beyond garbage there. They're so they're so bad. But I usually
• 1:37:02
  love my NFL season because I get to give Paul shit about the Dallas Cowboys.
• 1:37:08
  Now, I married my wife who is from Buffalo, New York.
• 1:37:10
  So I was about to cash in marriage rights on them bills yesterday and just
• 1:37:15
  rain hell on you or Sunday. I didn't because it wouldn't have been a
• 1:37:20
  Tony romo. Mean, I didn't feel right about it, you know,
• 1:37:24
  but yeah, those were best. Well, things will be interesting as we
• 1:37:27
  get down the line here link. Oh yeah, at the end of the
• 1:37:32
  season. Yeah, I hope they get interesting. It's fucking it's it's I'm
• 1:37:38
  not feeling very good at all, so let's keep the positive vibes, both
• 1:37:42
  of us. Do what happens. Well, cool, dude, and I
• 1:37:45
  know that the band's gonna be here in January. We're not going to see
• 1:37:48
  you, but hopefully we'll see you down the stretch at some point. Oh
• 1:37:51
  yeah, and I got you. I've got you all styled out for that,
• 1:37:55
  right, we talked about that. Yeah, you guys go, I
• 1:37:58
  can get I can get a bunch of tickets. Speak, guys, you
• 1:38:00
  should definitely go out and see the boys. Well, these guys want to
• 1:38:01
  go to yeah, yeah, I mean black music. Actually, yeah,
• 1:38:09
  I'll be I'll be in Denver and uh in May and next year, and
• 1:38:12
  I know Paul put him Yeah, I can maybe be free frat fly roights
• 1:38:21
  for you the whole Yeah, man for life. That makes it a little
• 1:38:27
  more enticing. But so you guys know I will be. I'm in in
• 1:38:32
  a wedding on April fifth or fourth in Charleston. Of course you are,
• 1:38:39
  everybody. The first wedding I've ever been in. Actually, like I'm stuck.
• 1:38:43
  I'm like, finally somebody, somebody maybe part of their wedding party.
• 1:38:46
  You're gonna be so hungover. What time of years it? Listen to this,
• 1:38:54
  dude, I'm staying for a whole week, the whole week afterwards April.
• 1:38:59
  What do you mean negative? It's just bad. It's fine, dude.
• 1:39:02
  I've caught red fish. I've caught red fish on my own, walking
• 1:39:11
  into fucking like cutting my ship up. I just didn't know what I was
• 1:39:14
  doing, and I stumbled out the back of wild Dudes golf course and tea.
• 1:39:18
  Will do better than what we did last time when you hooked that fish,
• 1:39:21
  we didn't catch one. So we'll make it happen. Tell you what,
• 1:39:24
  We'll go get drunk right around the boat. Mike won't come because Mike's
• 1:39:29
  not allowed to come because it's supposedly bad. It's bad, April bad.
• 1:39:32
  I've gone tailing fishing at the end of March before I have to. But
• 1:39:36
  it's not just near mind. We ain't gonna get into that. We're not
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  that kind of get it. We're in it. Mike's more pessimistic than uh
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  not time time. I'm wrong. You guys, we'll get out. Yeah,
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  man, for sure, we'll make it happen. Thanks again for the
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  time, man, appreciate Yeah, thanks for having me on. Andrew Lincoln,
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  everyone, white Man, the white Man, the light Man. Oh
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  Don't you think this is it's like a little scratch. Oh yeah, it's
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  it's awesome, but you make me feel very unwifely. Not go barbecue,
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  I still say, don't serve your awful coffee with myk oh missus Olsen.
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  He's always trying about like coffee. I could cry. You're a coffee sir,
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  veranks beautiful, You're welcome. How can such a pretty wife make such
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  bad coffee? I heard you, sir aniversary? Why so long? Nothing?
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  Well, it's your coffee, yah, even today, honey, your
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  coffee just doesn't taste any good. This must have been such a nice vacation.
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  Did you ever see Larry looking so happy? Honey? Happiness is a
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  vacation away from your coffee. Forget the coffee march. It's never very good
• 1:41:30
  coffee, Harold. Is the coffee all right yesterday? At all? M
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  Harold? Don't you shake your head. You've got to tell me what's wrong
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  with the coffee? Bad taste? Ladies, please, right now, at
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  the end of asle two, I've set out a brand new can't miss husband
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  pleasing. Oh no, what's wrong? It's your coffee again, A deciding
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  that the station makes better coffee than this. Really, sorry, honey,
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  your coffee says terrible, this is awesome. Maybe come in, my goodness,
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  Look as if you lost your last friend, smiled Jim again. You
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  should have heard him this morning. Mary, your coffee is as undrinkable as
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  ever. Oh and Jim's always so nice. I hope you are enjoying a
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  neighbor. Oh God, everything's wonderful. Even the coffee is better. Yeah,
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  you're welcome, darling. But if you could do one thing for me,
• 1:42:48
  try to do something about your coffee today, Harvey, want anything special
• 1:42:55
  for your birthday? Just a decent cup of coffee. I'm serious, honey,
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  your coffee is done pretty harsh. Well. Social coffee girls out of
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  the office make better coffee on their hot plates ceiling. That's cool. But
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  honey, you killed the petunia, then you admit it. Your coffee really
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  is murder. My coffee, it's murder. It is either too bitter or
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  too weak. Try to Folgiers because Fogs coffee is mountain grown, mountain grown
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  like the Sciences, mountain grown for richer flavor. Crime have delicious coffee like
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  this all the time. We will now that I've discovered the mountains for licher
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  flavor. Live barely. It's Christmas time and it's magic is here. It's
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  Christmas and it's wonders. Oki. That was beautiful in the corn down so
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  good. That's good in the last second, it's been fun Yeah, that's
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  a big old biss a good middle of the road bourbon. It's not that
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  it ain't crazy. Thanks for joining us, buddy, that's right. What
• 1:45:00
  is let's talk bourbon? Bourbon? We talked about a lot off there.
• 1:45:03
  What is the funny story about that? Everybody says, I'm a big bourbon
• 1:45:09
  guy. You will always bring a cool bottle that your knowledge is there.
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  My knowledge is isn't earned, it's acquired. My I have a good friend
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  owns liquor store, so I'm blessed. Have you guys tried everybody that's a
• 1:45:25
  bourbon guy. Now, Kenny has had really good bourbon, but he can't
• 1:45:29
  tell you where that bourbon came from. He has a guy that Kenny has
• 1:45:34
  a really good you know what's good and whatever and ship well yeah, yeah,
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  to extent all because this this is what I feel like the bourbon thing.
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  We'll just concentrate on bourbon because that's kind of the hot top. Go
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  back five to seven years and everything was pretty much and in M s r
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  P. Yeah, M s r P. It was just like this is
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  the price, this is it. There really wasn't a lot of the like
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  like I would say, for three four years ago, I got a bottle
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  of Midnight Winders Dram, which is from High West. That was drum drum,
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  dram, drum, drum Dram dram dram. I say so, so
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  it was. It was one hundred bucks. I'd never seen one before.
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  I had heard about how amazing it was, how good it was. It
• 1:46:33
  was a blend of different rise, so good. Source. It wasn't made
• 1:46:39
  by High West this well, they sourced it. They now make it in
• 1:46:43
  house, according to But anyways, so I found a bottle one hundred bucks
• 1:46:48
  and I was just like before, but oh my god, it felt right.
• 1:46:55
  The next year I found one it was one hundred and twenty dollars.
• 1:46:59
  I was like, okay, all right, you know what, this is
• 1:47:00
  my one year, one time a year splurge, fine whatever. I have
• 1:47:04
  been to three three different liquor stores on John's Island who have it? It's
• 1:47:12
  two hundred fucking dollars And I'm just like no other judge. Are they judging
• 1:47:18
  the price on the last few years that sold out so fast? So let's
• 1:47:20
  make it. I would, I would, I mean, I'm sure demand
• 1:47:25
  thing, but these bottles have sat there for weeks. Well, we talked
• 1:47:30
  about this a little bit off the air, like Eagle Rare one of my
• 1:47:32
  favorite bourbons on the planet. Yeah, but in Charleston, it's an eighty
• 1:47:38
  dollars bottle. I've seen it ninety nine dollars. I'm just like saying it's
• 1:47:43
  not a ninety nine dollars bourbon. But in this town it is aged ten
• 1:47:46
  years, which is hard to find a lower price burn and it's age for
• 1:47:49
  Yeah, but you get outside of this town or like, and I told
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  him when I was in California, I was in some little town in the
• 1:47:57
  Sierras outside of Yosemite, and and me and wap one in a grocery store,
• 1:48:00
  a little local groc store, and they still liquored the grocers there,
• 1:48:03
  and I went over just to look at their bourbon selection. They had like
• 1:48:05
  nine bottles at like thirty five dollars a bottle of Eagle Rare. I flew
• 1:48:11
  to California, otherwise I would have bought nine bottles of Eagle Rare on the
• 1:48:15
  spot, like, no questions asked. You can't check the bag. Yeah
• 1:48:21
  I did, but I didn't have room for non bottles Egel Rare because I
• 1:48:25
  had a child with got the inside skub, Like what's Jimmy saying, like,
• 1:48:29
  what's what's the trendy bourbon right now? Oh? God, maybe you
• 1:48:32
  haven't even tried it? Like, what's what are you? What is he
• 1:48:34
  saying? What do you think about Blenton's try to fight a bottle? Oh
• 1:48:39
  you can't, you can't fight you know, unpopular opinions of it. Blenton's
• 1:48:44
  not that good. Well it's good. Well, he's right, he's right.
• 1:48:48
  So, like I said, I'm not an efficient auto of this.
• 1:48:53
  This is this is information that I think that I have deciphered correctly. But
• 1:48:58
  there's the the American Blattons and then the European Blattins. I don't know how
• 1:49:02
  that works out, if that's even true, or if I even heard it
• 1:49:05
  correctly. But you have blends every day, Blattons or whatever. It's good
• 1:49:11
  and it's hard to find. But if you get yourself a bottle of the
• 1:49:15
  Europeans, yeah exactly, I know how's that working out? Because bourbon can
• 1:49:19
  only be made in Kentucky, right or Tennessee, Kentucky that range. It's
• 1:49:25
  like champagne. It has to come from a certain area. But that's I
• 1:49:30
  just as a taste, as a taste factor for the price, I've never
• 1:49:34
  found Blanton's to be any better than a lot of stuff that's less expensive and
• 1:49:40
  more available. Traces kind of flats lights made by the same stillery, and
• 1:49:46
  it's a Buffalo I don't know. I know Eagle Rares, Buffalo Trace,
• 1:49:50
  they're the same distillery, why, I think, but I never heard the
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  All I know is I love like Old Fort that's a good one. Find
• 1:50:12
  it and it's consistent that you can find it. It's the same price like
• 1:50:16
  a Russell's ten year. Yeah, honestly, we're wood, We're reserved as
• 1:50:20
  much as like it's just a it's a generics bud Wiser. It's a good
• 1:50:25
  selling and it's there all the time, all the time. That's my go
• 1:50:29
  to for Like, if I want to get something other than Jack Daniels tonight,
• 1:50:31
  I get would. Yeah. I mean, there's so many really good
• 1:50:34
  bourbons out there, but it's just like like you said, the fluctuation of
• 1:50:38
  their popularity and where you're at. If you're in a Holly you're big bourbon
• 1:50:42
  area, or if you're out in the sticks like it. It's frustrating,
• 1:50:45
  man, Like I just want to drink some good ship and I'm from them,
• 1:50:47
  But it's a trendy in this. That's that's the problem. I just
• 1:50:50
  think it's hilarious within the group. Everybody think I'm so sort of like fishing
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  out, but like, oh, you know what I do, and you
• 1:50:58
  might. I mean, I don't I know the name better. Maybe I
• 1:51:00
  don't know, but like, like I was still your association. But that's
• 1:51:04
  that's it. Association. But like early I was telling you guys, you
• 1:51:06
  know, I went to this get together or tasting or whatever the hell it
• 1:51:11
  was. I remember, and uh, you know, everybody has these bourbons
• 1:51:14
  blah blah, and I grabbed it this bottle with my coke and I mixed
• 1:51:16
  it with my and I got this look like I was gonna get stabbed in
• 1:51:21
  the parking lot, you know. So yeah, you look quick, you
• 1:51:26
  learn quickly. The one thing, the one thing we know I'm barely live
• 1:51:28
  is though that when it comes to rum, the only room you should be
• 1:51:30
  drinking is frigate reserve room. I do want to I do want to have
• 1:51:35
  you back. Can you should come back more often? Yeah? Because I
• 1:51:38
  do. I do want to talk more about your racing background. I mean,
• 1:51:42
  dude used to go to in the miles Proud on two wheels, like
• 1:51:45
  the kind of this motorcycle? Yeah, I like Grand Prix type motorcycle,
• 1:51:50
  or like rubbing the knee. Okay, how do you still have a knee?
• 1:51:56
  You are You're going to do this some other time. For today,
• 1:52:00
  it's we got Christmas trivia. Everyone wants it. Everyone wants it and just
• 1:52:05
  f y yeah is still buy Buffalo trips? Okay, okay, So it's
• 1:52:14
  kind of like Weller does the Wellers. Holy shit, it's all about it's
• 1:52:19
  about marketing anyway of will it twelve and tenure, which is a good bottle
• 1:52:25
  but in a while, but while it was twelve hundred dollars not the pot
• 1:52:31
  still Okay, I saw a bottle of old Fitzgerald ten heure seven hundred and
• 1:52:36
  fifty dollars. We're not rich, I'm not. I'm just up sitting.
• 1:52:44
  I'm just like, oh man, that's an awesome bottle. I've never seen
• 1:52:46
  that before. How much is that word Christmas? A little? Okay?
• 1:52:54
  Hell, he'll get it from his bourbon guy, and you gotta get should
• 1:53:00
  know what transitional life experience that I was just like I thought I was doing
• 1:53:04
  okay in life when I saw that, it was like, it turns out
• 1:53:08
  I'm poor. That's a daily You know. They say more money don't solve
• 1:53:15
  problems, but I got a lot of problems of money with solve immediately.
• 1:53:20
  All right, game show time. All right, let's go trivia Christmas Trivia.
• 1:53:24
  We gotta raise our hands, right, I hear it? All right,
• 1:53:30
  So yeah, you're gonna raise hands because if you if you raise the
• 1:53:32
  hand, don't know it, you're going You're going negative. Oh the consequences
• 1:53:39
  we had Mike Chucker, Kenny Well, I mean, we're gonna do the
• 1:53:45
  snake. We'll do no. Well, no, you gotta raise your you
• 1:53:46
  gotta raise raise personal ass. But if you get it wrong, you're going
• 1:53:50
  negative. Okay, okay, ready, where was the original Saint Nicholas?
• 1:53:56
  From what is now modern day? What? Mike Sweden Turkey? Really negative
• 1:54:04
  one? Jesus, I was gonna say Italy. But now, okay,
• 1:54:10
  I raise my hand. Well, how are you gonna score points? Though?
• 1:54:13
  You gotta really know it? Does that work? I think this works.
• 1:54:17
  I mean I'm losing, but I think the system works. Yeah,
• 1:54:19
  Okay, I'm not losing. It's all about the process. We're gonna get
• 1:54:23
  the process. I mean, the process is fine. Ad campaign popularized Santa's
• 1:54:27
  red suit in nineteen thirty one, Coca Cola bing me. I was gonna
• 1:54:33
  guess that, but then I thought that was too modern. It's just cheap
• 1:54:38
  modern. How many package? Now this is multiple choice, so I'm gonna
• 1:54:43
  give all the options and then each twenty all has to guess one of the
• 1:54:47
  letters. Okay, how many packages does USPS deliver during the Christmas season?
• 1:54:55
  A? Twenty eight million, B fifteen million, C twenty two million?
• 1:55:00
  Okay, what's your letter? See? Okay, what's your letter? B?
• 1:55:08
  I go B is A believe Jesus Chris. It's always highest number.
• 1:55:14
  We're not going to do negatives. Million I got big. But just like,
• 1:55:19
  what was that? What was twenty eight million? Twenty eight million packages?
• 1:55:23
  Okay? People would still trust the USPS? Figured, wait, yeah,
• 1:55:27
  I was gonna saying that's a good question, that's a fair question.
• 1:55:30
  Was because Amazon. Now it's just like really okay, I said, no
• 1:55:36
  one's losing anything because like Amazon uses USPS for some of their practice, some
• 1:55:44
  of it. It's fucking real. Okay, when is National Candy Cane Day?
• 1:55:47
  What's the day? I don't that's a You didn't even give it an
• 1:55:51
  option. For that one, like the options twenty third, twenty fifth or
• 1:55:57
  twenty sixth third, twenty six I go twenty third, twenty six Oh,
• 1:56:08
  the day after Christmas, candy cane down, Let's let's have that music,
• 1:56:12
  because you're just like, yeah, it's like depression day, sucking the strap
• 1:56:20
  there, looking at going like this is different from the earlier tribute we had.
• 1:56:27
  What is the most recorded Christmas song? I'm not giving you all options,
• 1:56:33
  almost the most recorded when I go silent that God? How the I
• 1:56:44
  don't know. I'm a sabot when it comes to Christmas songs. Apparently,
• 1:56:47
  any time you like bad bike, dude, you gotta get it. Christmas
• 1:56:57
  music, bad bike, and you will get it. Just seemed like something
• 1:57:00
  that people would record a lot, all right? What queen popularized the modern
• 1:57:04
  day gingerbread cookie Victoria one? Yep, what's modern day? Not like the
• 1:57:27
  the only Queen? Well, I hear the modern part. I mean,
• 1:57:30
  let's we're getting hot on the mic? Yell, I apologize it's him,
• 1:57:39
  He's the Yeller Project. What does the words well mean in its original language?
• 1:57:46
  Noel, no well, no will song? I would say your negative
• 1:57:54
  one? I mean like, does it mean night time? Like he already
• 1:58:01
  got his negative one. Y'all keep ring with it. It means birthday,
• 1:58:04
  That's what I said. What's the original language did you have that? There's
• 1:58:10
  French. It's French French. I was thinking that, I've never seen it
• 1:58:15
  again. How many ghosts appear in a Christmas Carol? Three? He said
• 1:58:20
  it? So answer his is. I don't care what he said. What
• 1:58:26
  do you say? You technically four because Marley shows up first and then the
• 1:58:30
  ghosts of Christmas. So you're right exactly, You're right man, You're back.
• 1:58:40
  We're going, You're going three, okay, just saying saying between a
• 1:58:45
  Christmas Carol and a Muffet's Christmas Carol, way more muppets because love muppets and
• 1:58:54
  ton of money. Yeah. Also the Poor Little Jesus Firm. That's what
• 1:59:04
  the Muppets. Christmas Carol is a goddamn like, straight up institution. Don't
• 1:59:15
  it's amazing. If you have not watched Christmas, will you text that to
• 1:59:23
  all of us? Yes, I will text you to everyone, but please
• 1:59:26
  don't watch this but the Mumpets Christmas Carol. But this is still muppets.
• 1:59:30
  It's just otters and beavers. I mean, Michael Caine, Michael Caine,
• 1:59:34
  Michael Ups. Let's not let frib of Rock pasts you by Don't Don't Sleep
• 1:59:43
  Rock. They got a new verse Christmas an Apple TV brand new revamped.
• 1:59:50
  Yea, all of them. They got all of the episodes. Yeah,
• 1:59:54
  it's on Apple TV. What do people traditionally place at the top of a
• 1:59:57
  Christmas tree? Raise your hand? Angel? Yeah? Yeah, better beat
• 2:00:01
  out the star. I was gonna go start, but I thought people would
• 2:00:04
  say star. All right, a few more When and where was Agnogging?
• 2:00:09
  Let's just go with one of the two. You don't have to get both
• 2:00:13
  of them right, as long as you one of them. When or where
• 2:00:15
  was Agnogg? Invented Doug's Party? Rich? No, you're negative negative one
• 2:00:23
  again? No you want to go? I'm down. That was Germany?
• 2:00:27
  Was Germany was my first guest. Well, why don't you use the fact
• 2:00:30
  that he got that wrong and go with something else. Maybe I'll give you
• 2:00:32
  two points if you get it right. I don't sh las Vegas sixty three
• 2:00:40
  jam most of them, great Britain, you got you got a negative one?
• 2:00:46
  Sounds like a German thing though. How many characters did Tom Hanks play
• 2:00:50
  in the Polar Express? No? I don't know that six going to You're
• 2:00:56
  down to three now, Tucker, way to go? All right? Two
• 2:01:00
  more? What do many Japanese people eat for Christmas? Duck? Christmas story?
• 2:01:13
  Right? This ship? Anyone else? I guess is that done?
• 2:01:24
  It's kfcve fried chickens. They like the Colonel. When I read that,
• 2:01:33
  I'm like, how do they know that? Like Christmas story? All right?
• 2:01:40
  Got a head? Win or where? Where the first Christmas cards ever
• 2:01:45
  sold? Win? And where? Win? Or where? Just give me
• 2:01:49
  one of the two answers? Canada? What Mike? What you got?
• 2:01:55
  I'm gonna go great bandon again. They seem to do everything first. It's
• 2:01:59
  always it's always our great. You ended up getting zero? Oh, I
• 2:02:03
  leveled out. I like it. I like it. You got two,
• 2:02:06
  Kenny got negative three? Hey, Tucker's the winner. All right, boys,
• 2:02:12
  I got a uh, I've got a Christmas song here first, uh
• 2:02:16
  a Caso Christmas, and then we're gonna go into Keso. You get your
• 2:02:20
  emails ready? You are ready? Yep? Yep? I'll go with Caso
• 2:02:26
  y'all. No, hold on, we got Caso Christmas first from old days?
• 2:02:29
  Oh really, that's Christmas Eve. Please join us for very Special Christmas
• 2:02:38
  with Richard Caso Richard Chad's traditional stories of the Christmas holiday. He also shares
• 2:02:43
  his passional views on different races of people, the Crusis fixion, and all
• 2:02:47
  of Richard's favorite stories and conspiracies about unconstitutional taxes in the COVID VAC team vaccines
• 2:02:55
  song got in the little ones this Christmas Eve in front of the sea channel
• 2:02:58
  mind so that they can run the real regions tall the season we had Richard
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  Kaso, Malo sack, Mao sack. Why is there this male sack?
• 2:03:15
  Mao sack, mal sack. That's all go inside, Mao sack, mao
• 2:03:19
  sack. Why is there this man of sack man sack, male sack.
• 2:03:28
  Weell, hello, there f Tess Last, Paul Bucket, arn't Worth Incorporated.
• 2:03:34
  Hey, how y'all doing this? Richard case out? Whoa what's the
• 2:03:39
  five? You know we got a little hot now. I like the microphone
• 2:03:45
  hanging from the sea lights. It's very rustic, Paul, you don't even
• 2:03:48
  have any support lines. It's just a wire hanging through the wire. We
• 2:03:54
  figured like, yeah, it's very natural. It's utilitary. And that's the
• 2:03:59
  word I was looking for. I've been searching for it in the brain and
• 2:04:02
  I found it. And that's the thing. I don't know you. You're
• 2:04:09
  a weird one. They always got weird. That's kiddy. I met a
• 2:04:13
  couple don't look like a kiddy in Puerto Rico. Oh Lassier because that was
• 2:04:25
  the extent of my Fendish was actually from Charleston. He's from Charleston. Was
• 2:04:30
  nice to meet you. I'm not you missed. You missed Damien earlier.
• 2:04:35
  Yeah, I know dam and terror buddies. Yeah, me and Tarry.
• 2:04:40
  Terry gave me a warning that David might be looking for him, but this
• 2:04:43
  time he year around here. Because you know, Terry always ends up showing
• 2:04:45
  up on your shoulder Christmas, so I've been god from him. He's a
• 2:04:50
  sneaky little thing head and Terry kind of like off Damien onto you up.
• 2:04:57
  Yeah, he does that sometimes. But even don't hang around too much.
• 2:05:00
  He says he don't like the smell when I'm making the coon kaw powder,
• 2:05:04
  something about the burning of the coons. It's I don't know, it just
• 2:05:09
  doesn't really sit well with him. By the way, your poet brother was
• 2:05:12
  beautiful. Yeah, you know, I get a lot alone time in the
• 2:05:15
  camper out there, and sometimes I come up with a little thumping. You
• 2:05:18
  know, I just try to go with it. It's really nice. I'm
• 2:05:21
  glad you liked it. Power. I love happy holidays and man Christmas.
• 2:05:27
  Did you get in the math on me? I don't I do. I
• 2:05:29
  didn't me here. I got the first one to hear home. Oh okay,
• 2:05:35
  Dear Richard, this is from Steve from Philly. Hi, Steve,
• 2:05:42
  I'm just curious the guys on the show always talking about other podcasts. Maybe
• 2:05:45
  what other podcasts do you like in the fly fishing spectrum or fishing spectrum?
• 2:05:49
  Well, you know, sometimes I don't know that I listen to a whole
• 2:05:54
  lot of fly fishing podcast because we'll really boring. You gotta talk about all
• 2:05:57
  the boy with you a little bit. Sometimes I listen to the other kind
• 2:06:00
  of fishing podcasts, like the whack them and stack them and release them under
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  the grease. That's my favorite. But you know, sometimes you no limit,
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  know that I don't have its fishing, No limit fishing, that's my
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  favorite one out there. No limit. Sometimes they do cross over and to
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  release them in the greef. You knows a good time. It's just a
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  yeah, they collab a little bit. Yeah, you know, but the
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  fly fishing, God, they always hung up on all the the red fishers
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  on the golfence. You know, what is this a lot of crying.
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  I can't do it. I can't do it. You know, I don't
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  loveday. I'm making positive grief. So that thing you want to hear about,
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  it's somebody complaining about too many fucking plastics, plastic balloons and she want
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  your boohoo. Just pick them up on the marsh forever chemicals, yeah,
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  forever, forever fevers of the diamonds and stuff. You know, I got
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  uh here, reach there, mister casa. What is your earliest Christmas memory?
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  What this is multiple? What is your the fae most favorite Christmas present
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  you've ever received? Thanks very much, Kristen in Michigan at p S is
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  awesome, very good to cook with. Okay, so we got three part
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  questions on my earliest Christmas memories. Well that I don't have a lot of
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  memories, be real, you because it was just a blurb, a lot
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  of single white traders and different daddy. But then I'm a memory though.
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  With that, I got a red Rider by goun with you. Just that
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  little boy in the Christmas story. You know where he shoots it. I
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  don't know, I am you. I did take out a few of the
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  neighbors cats, though that's beside the point. So that the holy memory I
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  get. What was the second part of that was what was the most favorite
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  Christmas present? I go? Remember this? This was you remember the gi
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  Joe with the karate action in the end of the tank to wear the begunna
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  with You think, yeah, I got, well, I got half of
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  that. I got just the gi Joe part. It didn't, but that
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  was the bad thing. I was corona chopping and a Gi Joe went all
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  across the backyard. It was the best Christmas there? And then what was
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  the third part? I can't even remember. Awesome good to cook with?
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  It depends on what you're cooking. Like say, for example, you were
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  cooking something you intended to eat, I would say no, if you're intending
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  to give it to somebody else to eat, I'm much Do you like that
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  person? Do you care whether they like what you cooked them? That would
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  be the answer to that question. It is not that it is safe.
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  If were the same as any other animal grief, It's like you might want
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  it to answer that question. Yeah, I think that's a political answer.
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  No, I think he nailed it. We got any more questions? Any
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  more emails? Can you got anything? Yeah? So? Ok? See,
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  so I'm sure you heard the very popular I did. It was when
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  that time came when he had to suck a dick before he you know,
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  and then he kind of sobered up that day. Wouldn't you throw him the
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  drumpany drunk drunk course? Do you feel like there could have been a better
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  choice to words that? I feel like it I had just gone through what
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  Krusty the greg Head did, I probably would want to be drunk and he
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  drunk drunk drunk drunk drunk too, don't know? Uh, Kenny, I
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  would not have changed the lyrics to that throng. I feel like after one
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  has humbled himself before another, as that Christy if character had done, being
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  drunk and the only way to satisfy yourself afterwards. Awkward question, Kenny,
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  thank you away? You know he keep me on my toes. That's what
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  I do of him. Left, I say, keeping under toes is better
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  than being on your knees. That's a day the week. Take that tree.
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  What's what you're doing after this? But were you having where you shut
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  crystals? I'm just gonna find somewhere warm, poet off the cold outside.
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  Do you know whose backyard? Are you saying right now? Well? If
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  I told you that, I'd have to kidd you get this. You know
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  how it is. If I tell you, then some find it. That's
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  because they don't. They're not home right now. That's hodyeas makes it much
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  easier to find somewhere to plug in your house. Don't worry about it.
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  Okay, Well, so you're down to you for right now. I'm somewhere
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  not here. That's all you need to know. Pob, I gotta go
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  because I got the possums that need tended to see y'all. Malo sack,
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  Mal sack, that's all go inside mal sick mao sick. Why is there
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  this male? Sick man? Sick mao sack? Wow, oh man,
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  good Christ an hour? He started talking most time, and I had a
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  good one for the outro. Santa Claus the ghetto. What Santa CLAUSO straight
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  round? You know, Santa Claus the cool straight to the ghetto. You
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  tap your ring head, they go straight to the ghetto. Santa Claus.
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  I don't think you keep up with game. Go straight to the ghetto there
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  stocking you by. The kids are going to love you. So leave a
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  j Bajona, leave a dog anyway, live something from it. Batona,
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  you did, don't look gett about getting Thanks. Yeah, a lot of
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  one cool straight like this is what God. And Terry, if you're out
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  there, we appreciate Damien. Thank you're out there listening, and even so,
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  we'll see you next year. We haven't had Damien and Terry for like
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  four through four years. Four years. That's probably been more because we haven't
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  done this. I think I think it's been for at least four A Christmas
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  show. I don't like how time passes and the baby dude, this is
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  really weird. I thought I could have sworn we did the Christmas thing last
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  year. I guess we didn't. We might have done it last year,
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  but you've done something, but it wasn't on the scale of this. This
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  was fun. Is we gonna eat Mexican food? Yes we are. I'm
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  going to get Mexican food because I need anyone else coming. If it makes
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  no better, you're all Mexicans all. Next show to your granddad who's not
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  Mexican. You're Mexican US say that. He said, you're all to us.
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  So essentially, if you are not of your den, you south of
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  the United States, you're a I'm gonna turn this up. Why really,
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  i'd be singing a song? Why am I cla don't leave nothing by you?
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  May Now I used to think it was police's navy dad, That's what
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  I was saying, singing a clo sold by the me So Santa Clau.
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  But I will take sucher