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- 0:03Good morning everyone. John Lucky here on AM eight hundred CKLW filling in for
- 0:09Dan McDonald, which is weird because like, this was a roundtable that he
- 0:14went out of his way to organize and he was really excited about. And
- 0:18then I got a message and I was like, hey, John, can
- 0:19you come in? And I was like, okay, whatever. We do
- 0:21the roundtable at the start of every show. And I gotta say, I'm
- 0:25really glad to be joined around the table right now by some really great people.
- 0:29Six Langman joins me. Six How you doing good? How are you?
- 0:32I'm doing all right? You're the director of yes, I you're the
- 0:36director of the Spinning Stories documentary, yep, yeah, And we're gonna be
- 0:39talking all things Vinyl records. So that's apt. That's good on Prime.
- 0:43If you had been the director of, like, you know, a sports
- 0:45documentary, wouldn't be doing this footsball, footsball exactly. We also have football
- 0:51Ryan Richardson, host of the Go Tell Someone podcast. You hear him here
- 0:55often on the roundtable. Ryan, how are you? I'm doing great.
- 0:58It's going to be a beautiful day, apparently, nice day for going out
- 1:00and finding vinyl to buy. Absolutely as always, and last, but not
- 1:03least, we also have the organizer of the Chapter two record show, Josh
- 1:08Reed, live in the studio. Josh, great to have you. Yeah,
- 1:11thanks so much for having me, Thanks for joining. You know,
- 1:14it's a I gotta say so. Vinyl records are not something that I've ever
- 1:18really gotten into. I was saying on the morning drive that I'm going to
- 1:22inherit a large collection of records from my parents at some point. I presume
- 1:26they've got a record player. I've just you know, I've never been one
- 1:30for the tactile medium. I grew up in the digital age, so I
- 1:34guess, you know, just to start some things off six, I'll go
- 1:36to you why Vinyl? Like, what's there to love about vinyl? It's
- 1:40old, it's big. You got to hook stuff up like I can just
- 1:44go to Spotify. Apparently you don't hang out with your cool dad enough.
- 1:47Honestly, mister Litke would like to drop off the records to someone that would
- 1:51appreciate. I will, it's definitely to give you my address. What's the
- 1:53thing about, Yeah, it's I think it's definitely for me. It's a
- 2:00it is a ritual thing. Like you know, this morning, I got
- 2:01up, poured myself a coffee and threw on it a record. I can
- 2:06get through a couple of records in a morning better than streaming. It's there's
- 2:10there's something about picking the record this this big you know, this big object
- 2:16oh by twelve, and throwing it on the table and then dropping the needle
- 2:20on it, and more intentional listening than it is passive listening. So,
- 2:24you know, a lot of times it's just it is kind of thinking about
- 2:29the record and thinking about the band that you're listening to instead of thinking about
- 2:31the things that you're supposed to be doing, like cleaning house or making lunches.
- 2:36It's a it's a little bit of a bit of a distraction, and
- 2:38I tend to kind of appreciate that. And I'm not sure if that even
- 2:42stems from me doing sound loop and coach and horses and doing sound for bands.
- 2:46You know, I was often put into a bar where I was doing
- 2:50sound for bands and I didn't necessarily listen to at home, or I didn't
- 2:53have a CD for and and I just I really enjoyed that end of things
- 2:58too, So I mean, I was really intentionally doing sound with bands that
- 3:00I, you know, was introduced to and was kind of new. And
- 3:04that's that's sort of the way I feel about Vinyl as well. You know,
- 3:07I can appreciate the tactileness of it and you know, sitting and listening
- 3:10and looking at it and taking it all in. For me, the closest
- 3:14thing I think that I could probably provide as an example was when I used
- 3:16to like be younger and get an actual video game, like a physical video
- 3:21game, and like I remember the ride home looking through the through the manual
- 3:25and getting all excited to play it. And so I mean, if that's
- 3:28sort of what you're getting at, I think I can really hone into that
- 3:30feeling, Josh, when it comes to you and Vinyl, Like, what
- 3:37is it that you like when you go looking for records? Is it that
- 3:40you're going out looking for a specific record at a specific time or are there
- 3:45times where you're just like, I don't want to get some music. It's
- 3:46it's a little bit of both. Sometimes you just feel like you need something
- 3:50new in the collection so that it's your local shop and have a browse.
- 3:53I think most of us collectors too, have a bit of a grail list,
- 3:58so to say, stuff you've been searching for for a while. So
- 4:02that's I think what keeps us in the hunt and really keeps us into records
- 4:05or finding those niche titles. Six made a great point when he said it's
- 4:10more involved listening. I think it's more it demands a little bit more of
- 4:14your attention and just the physical connection to the music. Having to put the
- 4:18needle on the album and the big colorful artwork on the jackets, all that
- 4:24little stuff I think is a bit of a subconscious, you know, appeal
- 4:28well, and there's also the curation, right Josh, Like the artists put
- 4:30the songs together in a way that they intended to be put together. So
- 4:34when you start off on track one and you get to the end and then
- 4:36you flip it over and you get the B side, that's not the way
- 4:40that the Spotify experiences when you just hit shuffle one percent. I think with
- 4:43Vinyl, it's it really demands that out of you to listen to an entire
- 4:47record, and like you said, super lost in the digital age, everybody's
- 4:50making their their favorite playlists, and yeah, it's nice to see that Vinyl's
- 4:56kind of brought back the art of the full album. I think, well,
- 5:00six my Dad just texted me. You got across to him, but
- 5:05he did say he said, we got a listener. He said, I
- 5:08got one. He said, music has physical properties. Records are tactile,
- 5:12with the imperfections and all. You get to experience the music in that tangible
- 5:16way, whereas with digital it's just perfect and it's not a very realistic experience.
- 5:21Ryan, I want to bring you in because vinyl is experiencing a huge
- 5:27comeback right now from local bands that I know who have put out what are
- 5:32they like? Six inch pressings? You know what? Six I'm trying.
- 5:38I know. Why do you think that the resurgence is happening? Why is
- 5:44there such a big comeback? Well, it's interesting. I take people over
- 5:46to Third Man Records. They have a vinyl pressing plant ten to fifteen minutes
- 5:49from here, and they're pressing seventeen thousand a day right now using Canadian presses
- 5:56that were made in Toronto, and it's insane. For me, it's partially
- 6:00in nostalgia. Like I grew up, my parents always played records Bill Withers
- 6:04Still Bill. I found it a couple of weeks ago. It couldn't be
- 6:08happier, So I said, nostalgia side of it. But then there's also
- 6:12the find, you know, getting going to a new store and finding something
- 6:15that you didn't even know existed or you didn't know was ever pressed a vinyl.
- 6:18We were We did this on the weekend. I went to a store
- 6:23in the States and my wife is a huge Rick Springfield fan, like we
- 6:27and as far as I knew, we had everything he had ever put on
- 6:30a vinyl. And we stopped at the store and I'm looking through and there
- 6:32was there was a Rick Springfield section and the thing and I looked at it.
- 6:35My wife had already looked through and she said, oh, yeah,
- 6:38yeah, she thought we had that one. And when I looked at it
- 6:40and I checked my list, I was like, we don't have this one.
- 6:42This was pressed like two years ago. And like when I was a
- 6:45kid going to wallpaper stores with my mom, it was just like the most
- 6:47boring experience. That's what sometimes that's what my wife is like when you go
- 6:50to a record store, because she's like, how long are we going to
- 6:53be here? But that day she was like, oh my gosh, you
- 6:56found something I don't have my collection. This is pretty cool, so she
- 6:59kind of I got bit by the bug a little bit that the record collecting
- 7:01bug for sure, but yeah, the find for me, the find is
- 7:05the coolest thing. At the last chapter two show that you did, Josh,
- 7:11I found a copy of Stings Nothing like the Sun. Oh great.
- 7:14And I came home and the first thing we did we sat in the living
- 7:15room just put it on and just listened to it because that was an album
- 7:17we actually my wife had introduced me to at university. Nice and we just
- 7:21threw that on and we were just like, this is cold. There's there's
- 7:24you know, forty five minutes, but just kind of sitting in the living
- 7:26room just talking and listening to music. That first listen after the find is
- 7:30really really nice. It really is. Yeah, very satisfying. Yeah,
- 7:33so thank you very much. Oh my pleasure, because that's pleasure that I
- 7:36couldn't I didn't remember, you know, in that late eighties, you know
- 7:39what got pressed to vinyl and what didn't like it was there was that you
- 7:42know, the transition where everything went to CD and everyone wanted to find something
- 7:46you didn't even know had ever been released, and you pick it up.
- 7:48It's great. One person texting in right now, I had a pretty good
- 7:51rock and roll album collection in the seventies and eighties. But then I went
- 7:55and I bought the all new compact disc technology in the early eighties, so
- 7:58much easier. I didn't have to flip a CD halfway through. But I
- 8:01did really notice that all the grittiness of the music had been lost when it
- 8:05was digitized. I noticed the sound difference immediately. You know we're going to
- 8:09talk about Holy Grail finds. What your hope that you could each find is
- 8:15the only thing I can compare that to would be I think when I opened
- 8:16up a Pokemon deck when I I came across a Charisard holographic, I remember
- 8:22just looking at it and then just like putting it back in the back and
- 8:26just like running to the car with my parents be like, you gotta get
- 8:28out of here quick, We're gonna get jumped. I've found one. I
- 8:31want to find out from you guys, what's the Charizard experience for you when
- 8:35it comes to records. What's your Holy Grail find And for all of you
- 8:39listening, let us know what's that one record you would love to be able
- 8:43to come across add to your collection. You can text in at ten eight
- 8:46hundred We're going to take a break and when we get back on the side,
- 8:48we will keep this roundtable going with six Langman, Ryan Richardson and Josh
- 8:52read All Things Vinyl. Don't go anywhere, folks. John Lydkey here on
- 8:56a eight hundred. Hey, folks, we're back. John Leckey here on
- 8:58a CLW. Hope you're all doing well. It is a Thursday roundtable joined
- 9:05by six Langman, Ryan Richardson and Josh Reid. We're talking all things Vinyl
- 9:11Records. We just had Record Store Day on the twentieth of April and it
- 9:16went really well, global event, incredible. We were talking though, just
- 9:20before the break about the holy grail. Finds wanting to know from the panel
- 9:24what is the one record that you just hope to get one day and absent
- 9:30that Also, what is the one that you're most proud of that you have
- 9:33already collected. Josh, let's go to you first. What's the holy grail?
- 9:37The big holy grail I'm missing is Iggy Pop Lust for Life. I've
- 9:41had a couple less than perfect represses of it, so I'm looking for either
- 9:46a first or second press. If anybody on the airwaves has one, please
- 9:48bring it. To the Chapter two record show on Sunday. A couple that
- 9:54I'm very proud of narrow it down to two is a Terry Reid album,
- 10:00self titled. He was very popular rock singer in the seventies. That was
- 10:03kind of slightly underground that I'd been looking for for a long time and I
- 10:07actually found it at the at the record show that Chapter two, so that
- 10:09was great. Another very cool one I have is the first appearance of Ronnie
- 10:13Hawkins. Yeah, pretty neat on vinyl. And it's also the first appearance
- 10:18of Levin Helm, Robbie Robertson and Garth Hudson. Yeah, it's pretty that's
- 10:24obviously something. It's pretty cool if there's just a tiny little photo of the
- 10:26three of those guys on the back and the front's Ronnie. But yeah,
- 10:31it's it's one that I found it like goodwill and it's just so neat.
- 10:33That is something, yes, yeah, but not what they used to be
- 10:41quality. That's it. That's it, Ryan, Let's bring you in.
- 10:43What's the holy grail find you're searching for? I'm looking for. I just
- 10:48saw them in Detroit two weeks ago, a band called kings X, and
- 10:50they've got an album called Gretchen Goes in Nebraska that I really would love to
- 10:54find on vinyl. I should have picked it up back in the day,
- 10:58and I did not, for sure. I mean the one I recently found,
- 11:01if you actually found it on the weekend, Howie Mandel's fits like a
- 11:05glove found that found that that was amazing. And of course that time out
- 11:09by the day brew back Quartet, Oh there you go where he actually there's
- 11:13there's actually a flaw where they missed a point and they didn't go back and
- 11:18re recorded it. Really didn't realize that until like last year I listened.
- 11:20I was like, that wasn't meant to be. Even with jazz, you
- 11:22can improvise, but there was a point where it was like, it's clearly
- 11:28a flaw and they didn't. They just left it in and it's still a
- 11:31classic jazz album. Yeah, I gotta say I really appreciate as well the
- 11:35fact that you actually did bring in visual aids for a auditory experience. We're
- 11:41gonna have a record player right in the middle. This is this is a
- 11:43show for us, John six. That's the Holy Grail. Well, the
- 11:50Holy Grail, the whole documentary that I've been working on for two years of
- 11:52sinning stories was me trying to find the Elephant Rider's record, which was Record
- 11:56Store they release gatefold on red vinyl. I ended up finding a bootleg of
- 12:03it during the documentary, but just before we had the premiere on Saturday,
- 12:09on the Monday before that, I actually found that copy, and it's the
- 12:13most expensive record I have purchased in my collection now, but the one that
- 12:18I have on my radar now. Because this is like, you know,
- 12:20collecting records is like an iceberg. You know, the ones at the top
- 12:22are the ones you're looking for, and then as you find those, everything
- 12:26melts away and then more floats to the top and you're like, oh,
- 12:28I didn't know I needed that one too exactly. But I'm looking for Snfu
- 12:31in the meantime and in between time, which is one of the only SNFU
- 12:35records I don't have. Snfu is great Canadian kind of punk band, and
- 12:39if you don't know, you should be looking them up because they influenced a
- 12:41lot of people. And when we lost Chai Pig a couple of years ago,
- 12:46the amount of people on the Internet being like, oh, he influenced
- 12:48you know some Mike Patten was one of these guys. It's like, you
- 12:54know, this was one of these great you know vocalists. So that's the
- 12:56one that's kind of on my radar. And they did repress it just a
- 13:01couple of years ago. I think it's Guts and Glory. There are a
- 13:05tattoo Shop Slash record label. They reissued it, but it's you can't find
- 13:11the reissue and you can't find the originals. They're they're really really tough to
- 13:16find. So that's on my radar now. Real quick. We could be
- 13:18sort of just one word of answers here, but six Is it better to
- 13:22go secondhand or for a reissue? What do you prefer? Well, if
- 13:28it's one you want, does it matter the fair point? You know,
- 13:31if it's in good condition, it doesn't matter to me if it's been spun
- 13:35by somebody else, if it was taken care of, that's that's the most
- 13:39important thing new new is. I mean, that's completely fine. The cost
- 13:43of new records is going up and up and up. But you know,
- 13:46either way, it's as long as it's in good condition and it gets into
- 13:48my collection, that makes me happy. Absolutely. We got one text that
- 13:52came in good morning to the record panel I've been collecting Elvis Presley records since
- 13:56nineteen seventy. I'm sorry acquired oridge pressings from his early career. But my
- 14:01prize was the last record released at the time of his death, titled Moody
- 14:05Blue. I heard it was pressed in blue vinyl. I got home,
- 14:09I opened it up, and it was black vinyl. I was bummed out,
- 14:13But I came to find out that the factory accidentally pressed a few copies
- 14:16in black when they meant to do them all in blue. They realized the
- 14:20mistake, and then they switched to the blue. I have the rare black
- 14:22one. Wow, I love my collection, says this texter. Very cool.
- 14:26It's so interesting because it is a physical medium, you do get that
- 14:30opportunity to have a mistake. Yeah, miss prints colored vinyl. Yeah,
- 14:33it's like I wonder if that was just a test print that they ended up
- 14:37kind of just throwing into the sleeve. Sometimes it's when they're changing over the
- 14:41vinyl stacks the colors themselves, and they just kind of plug that in for
- 14:45a few presses. So I like this, you know, And you guys
- 14:46are getting me excited about records now. One last text, one person said
- 14:50I'd love to be able to find a Billy Joel greatest hits. I don't
- 14:56have the greatest hits, but I have the Stranger and I have a couple
- 14:58other bi right now if you'd like them, they'll be at the Chapter two
- 15:01Records show on Sunday. So I come on down. Know if we have
- 15:05the greatest hits. I got a couple of Billy Joel sitting in the collection
- 15:07too. Well. We will talk all about that event that's coming up at
- 15:11Chapter two, as well as dive into a conversation about the Spinning Stories documentary
- 15:16as well. Don't go to our folks. John Lydkey here on AM eight
- 15:18hundred CKLW. It's the Thursday Roundtable. We're back right after this. Hey,
- 15:24folks, that John Lydkey here on AM eight hundred kl W. We
- 15:28are talking all things Vinyl records here on this Thursday Roundtable. And it's apt
- 15:35because we got a whole round table of people who just love records. It
- 15:37would be a really bad roundtable if we decided to do this with people who
- 15:41absolutely hated records. It would be bad. Will let's not do that show
- 15:45next Okay, we won't bring in the people who Hate Records, joined by
- 15:48six Langman, who's the director of the Spinning Stories documentary, Ryan Richardson,
- 15:52who's the host of the Go Tell Someone podcast, and Josh Reed, who
- 15:54is the Chapter two record show organizer. We were talking about Holy Grail record
- 15:58five just before the break. Now we're going to be talking about the Spinning
- 16:04Stories documentary. Six tell us what is it? Give us the elevator pitch
- 16:10for someone who doesn't know anything about it. This is an eight part docuseries
- 16:14about collecting vinyl. We speak with seven record stores, eight bands that are
- 16:19produced vinyl, and probably about twenty or thirty other record collectors about what makes
- 16:25them spin. Essentially kind of digging into some of those some of the influences
- 16:29about why what music they collect. You know, we talked with Tom Lusher
- 16:34about his collection and like, you know, colored vinyl and you know,
- 16:38just just a bunch of different nuances that the record collecting community kind of understand.
- 16:45So when you talk with these people, like the bands that are actually
- 16:48deciding to go do this much higher unit cost to be able to produce a
- 16:55record, that's difficult in today's economy where people are like I remember CDs ten
- 17:00bucks. When you go to a show and now I've seen twenty bucks,
- 17:03twenty five bucks. I mean, why would a band want to go and
- 17:07have a record pressed at all? Well, I think what I heard kind
- 17:11of over and over is, you know, it's a mark of pride.
- 17:15It's almost a level or a tier that bands get to. I mean at
- 17:18a certain point in time, either you're ready to invest in your career that
- 17:21way and you want to make this jump, or you know, for nostalgia
- 17:25reasons, you're like, I'd really love to hear my band on a record,
- 17:29or I'd love to have that sort of physical, you know, record
- 17:32in my hand. So that that's a big part of it. Tim Swadling,
- 17:36who he talked to on the on the in the in the series,
- 17:40he talked about, you know, the way that he learned about, you
- 17:42know, record pressing and how you master for records. So Tim Swadling in
- 17:48the documentary actually says that what you hear on a streaming service or what you
- 17:52hear on a CD is not a complete mix because the complete mix was done
- 17:56knowing that when we pressed the vinyl there would be a slightly different sound.
- 18:00It might be a little bit more warm, might be a little bit more
- 18:02bottom end. So you know, really the record was the actual final production
- 18:07of his music and not the streaming service. So I found that actually really
- 18:11really interesting as well, taking into consideration, you know, what Vinyl is
- 18:15going to do for your music instead of just trying to get your music out
- 18:18onto every sort of streaming service and have it sort of sounded, you know,
- 18:22like Vinyl, you're you're mastering it for Vinyl. Ryan, we were
- 18:26talking a bit or you brought up a briefly Jack White's third man pressing plant
- 18:32in Detroit. How many did you say that they're pressing a day. Seventeen
- 18:34thousand, so about three hundred and fifty thousand a month. Yeah, that
- 18:37is that's an obscene number, yeahsolutely. And he did a plead to the
- 18:42majors to say, you know, make more plants because we can't keep up
- 18:47with the demand right now, like you did that about year ago. So
- 18:49I'd imagine that one of the reasons why records are so expensive for represses or
- 18:55for new ones. I mean, if you've got a whole new demand for
- 18:57records from bands who traditionally weren't doing this, and you also have an industry
- 19:02that quite frankly sort of died off like a couple decades ago. It must
- 19:07be really tough to go and like flip that switch and turn everything right right,
- 19:11fire the old factories back up again. Well, because I'm sure people
- 19:14would rather you get records down to a price where you could have them.
- 19:17I don't know what a press. Well, actually, that's a good question.
- 19:18How much does it cost to have a record pressed? I don't know
- 19:21what the actual cost, like what are they selling for, probably, but
- 19:25what they're selling for is is absolutely amazing. Now six was saying earlier how
- 19:30high prices have gotten on new vinyl, and they really have a lot of
- 19:33the record store day releases. If it was under fifty bucks, you were
- 19:37very lucky. And you know a lot of them were fifty nine, sixty
- 19:41nine, seventy nine. So yeah, for one record, it is it's
- 19:44a substantial amount of money. I do know that it does cost more to
- 19:48press them and ship them and everything. But I hope the bottom kind of
- 19:52comes down on them a little bit, because it's I think it's getting to
- 19:55the point where some of them are pricing themselves out of what some people come
- 19:59up ad out. Yeah, you know, there's a few factors that kind
- 20:02of go into that. But we did, you know, during the documentary,
- 20:04I did a little bit of research. I wanted to press a seven
- 20:07inch split with two bands here Agea Wolves and Gipsy Chief Goliath. Because of
- 20:11the backup at record pressing plants, you know that was you know, there
- 20:14was COVID. There was also a fire that sort of knocked out a couple
- 20:19of plants that had the master's thanks Universal Music. Yeah yeah, so that
- 20:25kind of slowed down the record industry that way and producing it. So we
- 20:29actually moved to a format where we were Lathe cutting. So this is actually
- 20:33Lathe Cut records second by second by a woman named Robin Raymond at Red Spade
- 20:37Records. So you know, we got our the price per unit was still
- 20:41pretty high, but the fact is is, you know there's there are now
- 20:45kind of avenues where you might be able instead of pressing one hundred or two
- 20:49hundred or three hundred records, you can go and get them Lathe cut and
- 20:55and the unit price might be a little bit higher, but you're able to
- 20:56get them out at definitely a lower count, you know, twenty records or
- 21:00fifty records. So you know, there there's a cost. I think that
- 21:04when I was going through it, you know, if you could get your
- 21:07unit price down to you know, ten or fifteen dollars for a twelve inch
- 21:11record printed kind of out the door, then then that's that was good.
- 21:15You know, they were topping out sometimes twenty. But that's why you see
- 21:19the bands when when they're traveling around, even if it's a younger band or
- 21:22an older band, it doesn't matter. There's the records behind that. You
- 21:26know, the merch table are thirty dollars or forty dollars. You're not going
- 21:30to walk in and find like a twenty dollars record for sale. Usually,
- 21:33well, you got to make profit. Nobody's doing it because they got to
- 21:34make your gas money, giving way everything in life. Yeah, and it's
- 21:37it's just it's inherently a supply and demand problem right now. To me,
- 21:41absolutely demand outscript supply, and until there can be more factories that open up
- 21:45or people lose interest, the price is what it is. Also on that
- 21:48note with stock, one thing that really hurts stock was COVID. You know
- 21:52a lot of the pressing plants kind of came to a grinding halt. So
- 21:56the newer releases weren't coming out quite as much because they had to ketch up
- 22:00on the older stuff. And I really noticed that coming out of COVID.
- 22:03I think they're finally getting to the point where they're caught up now a couple
- 22:07of years after. But yeah, there's a little bit of that. But
- 22:08to Ryan's point too about you know, what Jack White wanted to do and
- 22:12asking the majors to produce more plants that they could produce more records. Talking
- 22:15with Robin at Red Spade, there's also a bottleneck at the mastering end of
- 22:19things. So to actually like cut your masters, there's only there's only a
- 22:25handful of people in the world that are really doing this, and that's one
- 22:27of these I don't want to say it's a lost art, but you know,
- 22:30making masters. Some of the machines that they're cutting their masters on are
- 22:33from the nineteen forties and fifties. There isn't like there isn't new equipment that's
- 22:38really being built, and there's not necessarily, you know, a younger generation
- 22:44that's like, oh, I want to sit in a studio and just you
- 22:45know, cut these masters of records. So there's also a bottleneck there.
- 22:48The level of expertise that comes for mastering, cutting and everything. Like you
- 22:52said, it's probably a dying art at this point, some of the and
- 22:56the older you get the worst years get a man well. One of the
- 23:00other problems, though, one of the problems with having rather a tactile medium
- 23:04is the fact that it is tactile, which means that there is war and
- 23:11damage dirt. In one case, we have a text here, John,
- 23:15I was devastated when I found out that my vinyl collection of about one hundred
- 23:21records was damaged in a flood that we have. Yeah, I don't know
- 23:26how to clean the mold off so I can listen to them again, any
- 23:30suggestions. I don't recommend storing records in the basement ever. Ever, if
- 23:37you do, get mounted shelves, yeah, maybe mine's in a split level,
- 23:41but above the floodline, it's not possible. But yeah, people should
- 23:45be very careful how they store their records. Also from temperature. Always put
- 23:48them away in the sleeves. Never leave them on a turntable because they can
- 23:52warp right exactly. But to the point of cleaning. I have an ultrasonic
- 23:56at home, so it's it's actually a unit that spins your records around and
- 24:00it pushes it's called a record players, but it sends sound waves through uh
- 24:07water and a little bit of cleaning solution, and it can usually get really
- 24:11really deep into the into the grooves. There's also things like spin clean,
- 24:15which is putting a record into a unit that you can spin it around,
- 24:21and there's pads that that that clean out the grooves, so you know,
- 24:25with mold and mildew, you can get it out. Because I've I've definitely
- 24:29seen it, I've researched it. It just it does take a little bit
- 24:32of work. But honestly, if the if the collection matters, then it's
- 24:34gonna it's gonna matter more as soon as you get that back to you know,
- 24:37definitely worth the investment to try and clean it up. Spin cleans are
- 24:41pretty, but there are there are services like even within the city of people
- 24:44that that clean the stuff. Very cool stuff. I mean, it's it's
- 24:47it's a need. There's always gonna be somebo who figures out how to make
- 24:49a buck. And if you know what to do, or you've got one
- 24:52of those ultra sonic did you yeah, and you've got one of those,
- 24:56you know, opportunities abound Josh, let's go to you right now. You
- 25:00host the Chapter two Brew record pop up that's taking place this Sunday. Yeah,
- 25:03tell us a little bit about it. What can people expect? So,
- 25:06the Chapter two Record show, we've had it going for coming up on
- 25:10two years now. It's been great. It's sort of an open event.
- 25:12A lot of small independent dealers from the city, a lot of people that
- 25:18thin out their record collections and bring in some records to sell and trade too.
- 25:22If anybody does have records to sell or trade, bring them on down.
- 25:26Yeah. All the vendors are welcome to a ten for free. There's
- 25:30no table fees or any anything like that. New stock every month. There's
- 25:34no no entry fees either, so very accessible event. Show up with the
- 25:38milk crate filled with your vinyl records, or show up with an empty milk
- 25:41crate. Sure to fill up there you go even better. How much are
- 25:45records going for at the event. There is a huge range, not just
- 25:51for myself but from other vendors. We have stuff as low as five dollars
- 25:53and as high as one hundred or more, just depending on the rarity and
- 25:56how common it is. I do have about six crates of five and ten
- 26:02dollars records. Yeah, so lots of great affordable titles. I'm actually going
- 26:04to do a promo this month of flash sale where all my five and ten
- 26:08dollars albums are going to be buy one, get one, oh this Sunday.
- 26:11So yeah, people come on out if you want to, you know,
- 26:15get some stuff and save some money too. And I just want to
- 26:18take a quick second to thank Chapter two of course, and Cheryl, my
- 26:22friend Chase and Mikayla and everybody that makes it happen. Sorry, I gotta
- 26:27say that the hard to find records we talked about earlier, I found one
- 26:32at Chapter two at one of your events the day brew back time Out.
- 26:34I found the orange variant on the vinyl and I was shot. It was
- 26:40one of those ones again to find it was like, oh yeah, I
- 26:41found it. So yeah. I highly recommend people making the time this Sunday.
- 26:45Thanks. I never know what you're gonna find. Those type of stories
- 26:48always make my day. When someone whether it's my table or not, runs
- 26:51out of there excited because they finally found that gray item, it's awesome.
- 26:53Is there a good record scene in Windsor? It seems like a stupid question
- 26:59to be asked thus conversations. Well, I started doing this thing where I'm
- 27:06taking people to some of the stores in the area. We're jumping on a
- 27:07school bus. We're going to do it next Saturday, and we're tying in
- 27:11with the Heat Seeker Hearts uscle. Yeah, it's called Hit Records and Hot
- 27:15Sauce and we're going to put people on a school bus and we're going to
- 27:18go visit some of the windsor Essex and let's sell record stars. Awesome,
- 27:22how many people do you expect to come out, well at the school bus
- 27:23hopefully forty to fifty. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
- 27:26the plan. It's so interesting that there is this growing resurgence of something that
- 27:32is, you know, long past, but isn't anymore. And I think
- 27:34it's because you know, you hand me Steve Martin record Ryan and for the
- 27:41first thing I noticed, I've never seen him without white hair before, so
- 27:45that's like, that's a really interesting thing. But I mean, it's the
- 27:48tactileness, it's the fact that it is more a piece of history than just
- 27:53listening to the song. When you click the play button on Spotify. Everything
- 27:57from the art to the line or not. It's yeah, the labels,
- 28:00all the all the cool nerdy stuff about a record. Yeah, it's cool
- 28:04to tactile on this. We got to take a quick break right now and
- 28:07get back on the other side. We'll keep our conversation going on the Thursday
- 28:10round Table, joined by Six Langman, Ryan Richardson and Josh Reed. Don't
- 28:12go anywhere, folks, John Lydkey here on a hundred Hey everyone, we're
- 28:17back. John Lydkey here on AM eight hundred CKLW. We're keeping our Thursday
- 28:21round table spinning with six Langman, Ryan Richardson and Josh Reed. Not one
- 28:26reaction from you, guys. I really like it. I thought you were
- 28:30just like worried that, like, oh we're on. We were talking Josh
- 28:36about the event that you've got coming up at chapter two, so you can
- 28:41do swaps, trade sales. Yes, it's like anything goes in there.
- 28:44We keep it pretty open. Yeah, it's again no admission. Just come
- 28:48on down. We have a turntable piped into the pa there. Beer's flowing.
- 28:52It's a great day and I think a lot of people that come down
- 28:55kind of like the casual aspect of it. It's it's a no rush chill
- 28:59kind of day you run into your community, right, that's right. Yeah.
- 29:03I think that's what people really enjoy about it is you're always seeing familiar
- 29:07faces other local record heads. You know, it is nice to be able
- 29:11to trade stuff too. If anybody does have records to trade yourself, come
- 29:14down ask for me. Or if you see something at another table, you're
- 29:17like, chat with that vendor and see if he's interested in the trade too.
- 29:21I love how free flowing it is. Yeah, sounds like a lot
- 29:22of fun. Yeah. Yeah. We kind of tried to keep the keep
- 29:26it casual, keep it fun and open and very community based. I think.
- 29:30I think that's what I like about it. Okay, so we're getting
- 29:33towards the end of the segment here and we're gonna, of course do plugged
- 29:34in where you all get to shout out something in the community that you think
- 29:37needs attention. Whether it be shameless self promotion or something else, we don't
- 29:41care. It's all good. But first before we do that, I want
- 29:44each of you to give me a one sentence answer. Six. The question
- 29:48is why should someone get into records? Well, it makes you cooler,
- 29:56yeah answer, that's my the street cred perfect, Ryan, I mean,
- 30:03we converted you today. That was the goal when we got here. So
- 30:04I'm pretty happy about that. I mean, I think you can answer that
- 30:07it just as well as any of it. We're one for one at this
- 30:10point. That's really if you guys were on a contract record today, you
- 30:14were at Ryan, how about you? Why should people get into records,
- 30:21I would say, Josh, no worries. I would say just the community
- 30:26and the fun aspect, the people you get to meet, and the deeper
- 30:30connection to the music. It's I'd say that music. Music, Yeah,
- 30:34it's important, universal language. Yeah, I like that. Okay, we're
- 30:38going to shift into plugged in right now. You get to do a shout
- 30:42out of an event, of a group of yourself, whatever you think needs
- 30:47to get some attention. Josh, let's go to you first. Well,
- 30:49I'm going to take the shameless promotion route. I figured you'd guess that.
- 30:53So this Sunday, the Chapter two Record Show starts at about one o'clock.
- 30:59We have everybody set up. Runs until about four thirty five. We have
- 31:03a couple of new vendors, thousands of albums, just a great fun,
- 31:07free day. Come down, have a beer, spin some records, and
- 31:11hope to see all there. Sounds like a real community experience. Absolutely,
- 31:15yeah, I love it. Ryan, How about yourself? What needs to
- 31:17be plugged in? Go tell someone dot com. You can find out about
- 31:21our May eleventh event where we're gonna take people on a school bus and we're
- 31:23gonna go to local record stores, four different record stores, and we're gonna
- 31:27wind up at the Heat Seeker at Hot Sauce Festival that day, which is
- 31:30an amazing event. I returned from last year very excited about that. Hit
- 31:34Records in Hot Sauce. And then on June twenty second, we're gonna do
- 31:37another tour, one of our first tours, going to black owned restaurants in
- 31:41Windsor and Essex County. Cool and so that's coming up and getting all geared
- 31:45up for that. So all the informations that go tell someone dot com what
- 31:49happens if a record gets Hot Sauce on it. Well, you don't combine
- 31:52the Hot Sauce and the records. Yeah yeah, you keep those in a
- 31:56separate container and combined at all. Well, we're not putting, We're not
- 32:01putting, We're not putting on the record. I mean some people might do
- 32:05that. I mean that's their choice, but I don't do that, it
- 32:07would it would give it a different, different sound, different different. It's
- 32:13a nice How long you've been doing your record store tours? Just a couple
- 32:17of weeks just actually yeah, yeah events. We coordinated the first one with
- 32:22the Spinning Stories screening a couple of weeks ago, and I took a couple
- 32:24of people around and they had they were fineing stuff they've never seen before.
- 32:29It was a lot of fun. What are what record stores are there in
- 32:30Windsor right, Like I can think of Doctor Disk. There's a T N
- 32:34T in Essex, there's Vintage and Vinyl in LaSalle and Amersburg. There is
- 32:38going through on on Ottawa, and there's also the new location for Galaxy Records
- 32:44on to come see. There's quite a few wow, I think and X
- 32:49yeah, doctor desk people and Doctor Chapter record show stores. A Doctor Disk
- 32:54is yo, G I mean yeahs can't beat Liam and the Sunrising them all.
- 33:00Yep, let's not forget that, you know, well six, let's
- 33:01get to you then, what do you think needs to be plugged in?
- 33:06Well, there's a little secret second screening coming up on Tuesday night, So
- 33:09if you hadn't seen it, on Saturday. Let me know, give me
- 33:14a message and I'll let you know where that is. I want to give
- 33:16a big thank you to the sponsors that you know, made the first event
- 33:20free and are also helping, you know, kind of make the second event
- 33:22happen, which was the drive magazine Leuna six two five, Langman Heating and
- 33:25Cooling, the Center for Cities and Downtown b I A. I really appreciate
- 33:29the help and the support for that and that that. Yeah, that's coming
- 33:34up on Tuesday. Then there's more record stuff on on Saturday the eleventh,
- 33:37and there's record stuff on Sunday. And I think Josh is going to be
- 33:40making a second appearance at the entrance of the Capitol Theater maybe on Sunday night.
- 33:45I'm not sure how drunk he's going to My reputation precedes me. Well,
- 33:52guys, I want to thank you so much for joining me to talk
- 33:54about all things Vinyl records. I know that it was not intended to be
- 33:59a conversation with me, so I hope that we all got through this together.
- 34:01Maybe I am Now what do you call someone who collects a registered record
- 34:05collector? Is that the term audio audio files? There? Yeah, well,
- 34:08smart thank you for having us. We really appreciate you. Yeah,
- 34:15Dad always loves to get a comment. Thank you so much. Six Langman,
- 34:22director of Spinning Stories documentary, Ryan Richardson, host of the Go Tell
- 34:25Someone podcast, and Josh Reid, who is the Chapter two record show organizer
- 34:31and that's taking place this Sunday at Chapter two Brewery. Thank you so much.
- 34:37Six, Ryan and Josh really appreciate it. I am John Lidkey.
- 34:42You're listening to a M eight hundred c kl W. It's been the Thursday
- 34:45roundtable. We're going to take a quick break when we get back after the
- 34:47ten o'clock news. We're going to be talking about the state of our downtown
- 34:53crime, law and order, and there's been a lot of efforts and a
- 34:58lot of talk about what a we do to make it better. We are
- 35:00going to be bringing on the owner of Fog Lounge and meteor Tom Lusier to
- 35:06discuss what the reality is on the ground from someone who actually works there,
- 35:10not just during business hours either, but like after hours, and what happens
- 35:15when the sun goes down in our core. There's a story here. It's
- 35:20harrowing. It's actually kind of sad. It's got some laughs in it,
- 35:22but I think it really does speak to some issues that we're dealing with,
- 35:25so we'll get into that and more. Don't go anywhere, folks, John
- 35:28lydke here on AMAE hundred CKLW. We're back after this