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Passion in Paradise · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio. Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast.
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  Speaker 1: It's Ashley and Ben is reporting to us from Mexico,
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  Speaker 1: not Paradise, just a nice little vacation with his friends. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a nice vacation. It's great. So Jessica and I
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  Speaker 1: are getting ready to celebrate one year of marriage. Just
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  Speaker 1: mind blowing short things. Um, it is mind blowing. It's
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  Speaker 1: been a great year. We like to joke with each
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  Speaker 1: other that we have to re up our contract after
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  Speaker 1: a year of marriage because the data shows that if
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  Speaker 1: you make it through a year of marriage, then if
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  Speaker 1: your first year goes well, then you're more likely to
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  Speaker 1: make it to five years. You make it five years,
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  Speaker 1: you're very likely to make it to fifteen. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like we're flying. So I think tonight we have contract
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  Speaker 1: negotiations to see if we're gonna re up this or not. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel pretty good about my chances. You know,
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  Speaker 1: still stay at husband. That's awesome. Can I tell you
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  Speaker 1: that people say that the first year of marriage is
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  Speaker 1: the hardest. That is a total lie. If the first
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  Speaker 1: year is hard, that I'm worried for you. The hardest
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  Speaker 1: year of marriage is the one in which you have
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  Speaker 1: a child. That makes sense. So let me know first,
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  Speaker 1: here's been a lot of fun report back on the
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  Speaker 1: contract negotiations after that one, I will um, well, the puppy.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we got a puppy in the first year
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  Speaker 1: who was actually getting neutered as we speak. My wonderful
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  Speaker 1: mother is staying with Whalen in Denver, and as we
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  Speaker 1: record this, I'm gonna be checking my text because he
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  Speaker 1: is in surgery. I am a nervous father, um, dog father,
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  Speaker 1: And because people get mad at me when I called
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  Speaker 1: my son and they're like, he's now your son used
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  Speaker 1: your dog. Well, okay, he's my dog son. Um. But
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  Speaker 1: then also Ash, we're down here in Mexico because my
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  Speaker 1: buddy who we've talked about the podcast, Brandon Um, who
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  Speaker 1: was diagnosed with a l S a few years ago.
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  Speaker 1: This was kind of his uh, kind of not ask
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  Speaker 1: but he just kind of wanted to rally as many
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  Speaker 1: friends as possible to come to Mexico with him while
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  Speaker 1: he can still like enjoy it and have fun. And
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  Speaker 1: so he is down here with his wife and a
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  Speaker 1: few other friends. UM. I do want to give this
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  Speaker 1: moment to give a little shout out to Brandon, Um,
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  Speaker 1: the averages came out. Actually listen to this. If you
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  Speaker 1: have a l S. Um it costs about a hundred
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  Speaker 1: forty three thousand dollars a year to live with a
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  Speaker 1: l S to get the proper treatment and care and
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  Speaker 1: assistance and help. And so Brandon kind of by he
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  Speaker 1: and his wife had spoken about it and then kind
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  Speaker 1: of came to some friends. Um, they're gonna be launching
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  Speaker 1: kind of their own uh organization to help fund raise
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  Speaker 1: not only for themselves but for others. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: be more of a an advocacy and teaching organization that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna show but teach people about a l S and
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  Speaker 1: the truth behind LS. But then it's also really important
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  Speaker 1: to kind of fundraise for yourself because it's so expensive,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to get some money to help. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be talking about that. Has that come out, But
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  Speaker 1: we're down here with them and for Inverseitary. We've had
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  Speaker 1: a great trip so far, but I can't, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I can't stay away from almost famous podcasts. We have
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  Speaker 1: to jump on here and talk about these weeks, this
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  Speaker 1: week's episodes. I actually feel like I'm gonna have my
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  Speaker 1: best podcast ever today because I'm in pairs while I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about here. Okay, cool, Well, then let's take a
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  Speaker 1: quick break and we'll dive into Lace and Rodney. Right boy,
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  Speaker 1: let's go, all right, Layson Rodney. We all saw it coming.
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  Speaker 1: The whole audience knew that Rodney was going to have
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  Speaker 1: to have that really crappy talk with Lace tell her
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  Speaker 1: that he was more into Eliza. We see it happen,
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  Speaker 1: and it was more dramatic than I think we ever anticipated.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta say this though, from somebody who was down
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  Speaker 1: on the beach, Layson Rodney seemed a lot more serious
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  Speaker 1: there than it came across on TV. That's fair, I
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  Speaker 1: would argue, Actually, I might disagree with you. I I
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  Speaker 1: I because I know Lace and I know actually you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I said last week, I'm very protective of her
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  Speaker 1: because of her being on my season and knowing her
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  Speaker 1: personally and knowing some of the things she is really
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  Speaker 1: passionate about, and one of those is, you know, relationship
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  Speaker 1: and commitment and finding somebody that can love her for
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  Speaker 1: who she is. And she is really an incredible person,
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  Speaker 1: but she is very emotional, and I think for some
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  Speaker 1: that can be maybe like turn you off to it.
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  Speaker 1: But for for somebody unique and special, I think they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna really love her passion and her care and her desire,
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  Speaker 1: her desire just to be loved. Well, um, and I
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  Speaker 1: would say I'm proud of them both. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it was ever gonna be easy. I don't think it
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  Speaker 1: was ever gonna be clean. I thought it would be
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  Speaker 1: full of emotion and drama because well, oh it's a
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  Speaker 1: weird situation. But I felt like they both in the
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  Speaker 1: best way. They They were respectful to each other, they
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  Speaker 1: were honest with each other. Uh, And it was hard
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  Speaker 1: to watch, but I felt like they both did well
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  Speaker 1: navigating this really difficult and painful situation. Yeah, there's always
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  Speaker 1: two ways to kind of handle this in Paradise. You
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  Speaker 1: can get really mad like we see like Shane gets,
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  Speaker 1: and then you can get really sad, which is how
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  Speaker 1: we saw, you know, Lace get. She says that she
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  Speaker 1: saw it coming, so I think she was like prepared. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And then Ronnie is kind of happy. Well, he's not happy.
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  Speaker 1: He's feels so horrible that he had to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: break up with her and break her heart. But he
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  Speaker 1: says that now he's excited to kind of put everything
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  Speaker 1: into Eliza, and I do want to see more of
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  Speaker 1: him in Eliza, Like I feel like there's definitely attraction there,
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  Speaker 1: but I need to see like a little bit more substance. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I it just is hard because for me, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: watching this and I know he wants to be respectful
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  Speaker 1: of the situation. I know there is an attraction with Eliza.
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  Speaker 1: I know they have something. Probably what he feels like
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  Speaker 1: is more serious than Lace in him had um, but
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  Speaker 1: Lace could have easily blown up on him kind of
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  Speaker 1: like episode two, and she really didn't, you know she.
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  Speaker 1: I think she was just and I know she had
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  Speaker 1: this gut feeling Ashley, and I don't want to speak
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  Speaker 1: for Lace. It's not fair for me too, but I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if that gut feeling um is just because in
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  Speaker 1: the past she's had this happen. That's what. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: what made me so sad about this. And she was like,
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm never the girl, like I'm never the girl.
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  Speaker 1: I always in the one that's getting my heart broken,
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  Speaker 1: and that makes me so sad. And that's why I think,
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  Speaker 1: like you know those times where you cry and you're
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  Speaker 1: crying initially for one reason, and then in your head,
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  Speaker 1: like all these other similar situations come back you. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's why she was crying so hard. That's the saddest.
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  Speaker 1: It is the saddest. And I can't wait for the day,
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  Speaker 1: you know you obviously a couple of years ago kind
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  Speaker 1: of wrote a lot about this in the book and
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  Speaker 1: studied it. But like you can't wait for the day,
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  Speaker 1: then if this is really what you desire in romantic relationships,
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  Speaker 1: for the day that somebody comes alongside of her and
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  Speaker 1: shows her that, um, those fears don't have to exist
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  Speaker 1: within her anymore. And right now we're just getting to
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  Speaker 1: see like kind of her biggest fears and insecurities when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to romantic relationships displayed on television, and that
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  Speaker 1: it is hard. But I want to ask you, and
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  Speaker 1: I've asked you this question was every week. Do you
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  Speaker 1: feel like anybody was in the wrong here? Do you
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  Speaker 1: think Rodney was in the wrong for pursuing this relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Eliza? Um, do you think Lace was in the
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  Speaker 1: wrong for trying to come up to the beach early?
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  Speaker 1: Or do you feel like this was everybody had their
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  Speaker 1: reasoning and it was warranted. It just was hard. No,
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  Speaker 1: it was it was perfect. He's unreally and it was
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  Speaker 1: just hard. And I think somebody said in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you can either follow your head or you
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  Speaker 1: can follow your heart, and your heart is often like
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  Speaker 1: very messy, but you just got to go through with
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  Speaker 1: it it. Yeah, I agree with what you're saying earlier
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  Speaker 1: to about Lace. When she does find her person, like
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  Speaker 1: they're going to be shower with love and it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be like so amazing for her to just like
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  Speaker 1: bask in the glory of like a mutual loving relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's blaze her bachelorette How how entertaining would that be?
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  Speaker 1: It would wouldn't it be great? Though? Yeah, let's go, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's do it. Why not it would be you know,
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  Speaker 1: it would be better than what we've seen, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the last couple of years, because it would be emotional,
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  Speaker 1: it would be serious, it'd be a little wild. And
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  Speaker 1: she she shows and expresses everything she's feeling, even if
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  Speaker 1: it is always uh like the best view, meaning like
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  Speaker 1: she's not afraid to cry, she's not afraid to be confused,
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  Speaker 1: she's not afraid to ask very poignant questions, and mostly
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  Speaker 1: she's not she's not afraid to make fun of other
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  Speaker 1: people and herself, which makes it all very entertaining. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: She's very easy to like and and very easy to
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  Speaker 1: to enjoy being around. Actually, to move on from the
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  Speaker 1: Lace Rodney thing, because I do think you know, it
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  Speaker 1: ended word ended, and and we've covered it. At the
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  Speaker 1: end of that whole scene, the guys are kind of
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  Speaker 1: freaking out because Lace kind of dropped this little bomb
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  Speaker 1: but didn't give any to it. She's like, yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: other guys at our house. Uh, and then kind of
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  Speaker 1: like leaves it there. Who's with who, Who's with? Who's
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  Speaker 1: like Yeah, She's like, I gotta talk to Rodney, see
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  Speaker 1: you later. Piece. Do you think she meant to do?
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  Speaker 1: Like do you think she was just like kind of
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  Speaker 1: like messing with him or do you think she just
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  Speaker 1: didn't realize what she was saying and how it would
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  Speaker 1: just like mess in through this guy's mind, you know,
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  Speaker 1: coming from Lace, it could really could go either way,
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  Speaker 1: but it was intentional. I know she's brilliant, she really is.
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  Speaker 1: She is. Yeah, she's super smart. She's very smart, and
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  Speaker 1: so I haven't really I don't know, I just I
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  Speaker 1: want I kind of want to imagine because I kind
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  Speaker 1: of am a fan of some of them when on
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor, like some of that, like just messing with people.
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  Speaker 1: I want to imagine she was in there and she's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, if I'm gonna go down, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: mess with these dudes. Someone might be happy, some might
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  Speaker 1: be sad. But here's here's a little thing I'm gonna share. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's guys at the house. They're being a great Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you should go, you should go. Worry about how do
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  Speaker 1: would these guys ever think that the girls were just
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  Speaker 1: hanging in a tower without without any other guys coming,
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  Speaker 1: that they were going to get all the girls and
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  Speaker 1: then there's gonna be no guys for the girls. Come on, now,
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  Speaker 1: that's so crazy. I can't possibly been the first time
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  Speaker 1: that they thought about that, but I guess it was confirmation.
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  Speaker 1: And Brandon freaks out, which is hilarious, but like, there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing to freak out about Brandon. But it's really cute
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  Speaker 1: because it's kind of like his moment where he's like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not just falling in love and Serene, I am
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  Speaker 1: in love and Serena. I wouldn't be acting this way
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  Speaker 1: if I wasn't, So it's very adorable. And later we
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  Speaker 1: see their union. We'll talk about that then. Um okay,
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  Speaker 1: So over at the house, it's pretty embarrassing because Jesse
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  Speaker 1: talks the girls. He's like, so of all the guys,
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  Speaker 1: like who you like and who do you not like?
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  Speaker 1: And it's a mutual consensus that nobody is vibing with
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  Speaker 1: Ohlu and Rick. So then Jesse goes and does the
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  Speaker 1: dirty work, which is actually quite relieving for the girls,
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  Speaker 1: and says, Ohlu, Rick, you're basically eliminated because nobody wants
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  Speaker 1: you here. It's so demoralizing. I mean, even seeing Rick's
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  Speaker 1: face if you see that scene, he's how like, like
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  Speaker 1: these girls, these girls really haven't been into anybody other
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  Speaker 1: than Tyler at this point, but they save They saved
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  Speaker 1: the Australian, which do you even remember the Australia to
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  Speaker 1: a shock Adam. Okay, so I think Rix in there
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  Speaker 1: being like, wait, Adam hasn't talked to any of them yet,
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  Speaker 1: but he's he's kind of the same place to me
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  Speaker 1: and I lose over they're like a loose try like
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  Speaker 1: he was wanted to play chicken fighting the pool. He
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to kick it with these girls, and nobody
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  Speaker 1: has given any of them the time of day really
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  Speaker 1: other than Tyler and then and then Rick and the Lewis.
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, but you're you're so far down
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  Speaker 1: on their interest level that you just got to go home. Sorry, guys,
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  Speaker 1: you've been here two days in Paradise, have a great time.
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  Speaker 1: You don't even see you don't even see the beach.
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  Speaker 1: You don't even get to the beach. Can we talk
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  Speaker 1: about how underrated Alex is? Like, in my opinion, Alex
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  Speaker 1: is probably the best looking guy all of Paradise and
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  Speaker 1: the girls where should we see? You know, Victoria does
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  Speaker 1: have an interest in them, but none of them are
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  Speaker 1: all over him. Those are some loyal ladies. They're loyal ladies.
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  Speaker 1: And and you know, I know, I know of Ax
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  Speaker 1: and and he's one of Dean's best friends from the franchise.
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  Speaker 1: They hang out quite a bit, and so I've gotten
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  Speaker 1: to like hear about him and be around him a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Uh, he's a great dude. And um, I'm
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  Speaker 1: surprised honestly that the show got him to come to
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  Speaker 1: Paradise in the first place. And then I'm surprised that
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  Speaker 1: he was one of them that came to the state
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  Speaker 1: and not to the beach originally, because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: him coming to the beach originally would have really kind
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  Speaker 1: of been that like, uh, that desired person right away
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  Speaker 1: on the beach and could have created a great story
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  Speaker 1: that we could have seen the whole thing. We don't
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  Speaker 1: know where, you know, Victorian and Alex go, but I
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  Speaker 1: am glad we get to see him. This is Alex's
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  Speaker 1: first time on Paradise. He's never been to Paradise Um.
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  Speaker 1: Years later, he finally agrees this can't be the first
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  Speaker 1: time he's been asked, so why now is the question.
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  Speaker 1: I know that he's good friends with Dean, and for
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  Speaker 1: some reason in my head, I always was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that guy's gotta be a total f boy, because the
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  Speaker 1: way he looks like, I don't know, right, and it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like that at all. Dean always tells me
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  Speaker 1: that Alex is like a really like very focused on
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  Speaker 1: his job and his family, and he is at home
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  Speaker 1: a lot, like kind of more quiet under under the
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  Speaker 1: radar um. I mean, I'm sure he has a good time,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think he's just out there swinging and
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  Speaker 1: you know, doing his thing all the time. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's at home a lot and That's why I said
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  Speaker 1: him surprised he agreed to come to Paradise, which I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad he's staying in Paradise because I think there's more
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  Speaker 1: to learn about. I took a little look at his
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  Speaker 1: Instagram and he has a lot of pictures with his um,
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  Speaker 1: his niece or nephew, and it's just adorable. He definitely
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  Speaker 1: seems like a family guy. Anyway, let's go back to
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  Speaker 1: the house the beach. Logan is now deciding who he
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  Speaker 1: wants to be with, and I just I'm I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I know I met the guy in person and very nice.
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  Speaker 1: It's literally nothing nothing, nothing um wrong with him, nice person.
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  Speaker 1: How does he have all these ladies findings? I feel
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  Speaker 1: like Logan is kind of found himself in a situation
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  Speaker 1: where he and Jacob are obviously in the same kind
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  Speaker 1: of like realm where they're single, they haven't gotten in
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  Speaker 1: a serious relationship. The ladies are fighting over him because
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  Speaker 1: there's not a lot of other dudes left. Not not not
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  Speaker 1: saying they wouldn't be fighting over Logan if there was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, more options available. But he is kind of
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  Speaker 1: one of maybe three guys at the beach right now
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  Speaker 1: that even has an interest in pursuing another relationship, and
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  Speaker 1: so there's gonna be the women are going to be
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  Speaker 1: focused on that. I just think it's kind of the
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  Speaker 1: not the last resort. I don't want to say um,
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  Speaker 1: but I do think they're at Please have an eye
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  Speaker 1: on it if they want to stick around the beach.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping Ashley that Kate really is into him. I
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  Speaker 1: think she is at this point. I'm hoping this just
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  Speaker 1: isn't a Rose relationship, you know, I want to stick
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  Speaker 1: around another week kind of thing. But I thought she
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  Speaker 1: really had something with Jacob, so that switched up for
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  Speaker 1: me so weird and kind of out of nowhere for me,
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  Speaker 1: out of nowhere so weird. She's just like, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's as well as you know, I don't really feel it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel it more with Logan. How do you feel
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  Speaker 1: about Kate in general? Because Kate gives me weird vibes.
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  Speaker 1: She's just um, she gives me playing the game vibe,
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  Speaker 1: which I said yesterday. The way that she speaks is
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  Speaker 1: like sort of belittling. Yeah, I think who said it.
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  Speaker 1: I think Jacob said it originally was she's she's a
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  Speaker 1: good salesperson. There's somebody has quoted this season saying, man,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what I'm getting is the vibes that
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  Speaker 1: she is a good salesperson. Not only does she obviously
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  Speaker 1: want to be around Paradise, she's excited to be there.
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  Speaker 1: You can see that. Um, but she is kind of
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  Speaker 1: making sure that she's in the game and she's knowing
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  Speaker 1: how to navigate it. I'm hoping, though, right that that
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  Speaker 1: is all kind of stopping with Logan, meaning that now
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  Speaker 1: that she's found Logan, she wants to settle in a
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  Speaker 1: little bit and just be a part of that and
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  Speaker 1: see where that goes. It's hard to say, because I
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  Speaker 1: really thought her and Jacob had something, and it's I
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  Speaker 1: was a little more invested in that relationship based on
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: us meeting Jill in Rhode Island and finding Jill was
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: to be so fun to be around and so funny
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: to be to be with. And after Jill and Jacob's
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: first date, I really thought that, um, you know, for
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: him to not be with Jill was a big deal. Uh.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: And and now that Kate has moved on from him,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more just kind of upset because
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, if Jacob's gonna drop Jill, you
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: better drop it for something very serious. And now that's
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: not the case. And so now I'm just saying, well,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I also was led to believe, and I think I
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: just made up this in my head that that that
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Jacob dumped Jill four Kate, but that is not what happened.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: And he just was like, I don't feel it with
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: you completely enough for you to be sticking around. I guess.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Back at the house, we have Shine and Genevieve, and
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: they're like a whole love match themselves. The two of
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: them are best friends. Now they're getting drunk as heck
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: and they love each other. Who have thought unlikely couple,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: but a fun moment, a fun little bachelor in Paradise
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: humorous moment, which if we're not getting enough of, yeah,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: these are the moments that we laugh at. I do
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: want to know how they're getting so intoxicated with this
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: drink ruel because it's two drinks an hour, so of
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: course girls can get drunk off two drinks an hour. Okay,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: that's fair. I don't know. I don't know how that feels.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I guess yes, because I don't know. I'm six four
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't happen for me? They are I mean they're having
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a black this. You know, I don't need Ashley to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: see every season people getting like hammerd drunk. Maybe that's
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: like not always the most fun to watch, but I
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: do miss these kind of lighthearted scenes where people are
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: just being ridiculous on the beach. I did, like, I mean, honestly,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed watching the scene of the men like doing
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: um like water uh what do you call it? What
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: not row er robic swimming singer Knice swimming in the
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: in the pool, Like I just like seeing their personality
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: shine at uh. And I don't think we've got enough
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: of that. Love it, love it Okay, Well, the big
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: thing that happens I think they're in this episode. I
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: think like the most like juicy thing is when Alex
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: and Victoria go on the day because it's just like
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: you feel a connection. I I certainly of Like Victoria
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: is sitting at this table and like, oh and she's
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: sticking Oh crap. I thought I was pretty secure with Johnny,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: but right now Alex is checking off all of my boxes.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: And this is like a term that they used throughout
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the entire episode, checking out the boxes, checking out the bosses,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: because every girl and I think every guy like kind
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: of has a list of things that they're looking for
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: an a partner. She finds that Alex is checking off
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: so many of those and like Johnny maybe not so much.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, like I I feel it more
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: between Victoria and Alex than I do with her and Johnny.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's because we're not seeing a ton of her
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and Johnny. And I will say from like another firsthand
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: experience situation, Jared and I were like, looks like Victoria
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and Johnny are like doing well. They're always lying together,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you know, they're always together, but they're just kind of chilling.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: You know, you didn't see like any like great passion
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: or in depth conversations, like nothing ever looked like whoa
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: like look at that romance, look at that connection. And
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: now I'm watching her with Alex, and I'm feeling that,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: So I don't I don't know. I'm kind of scared
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: for Johnny. Oh yeah, I mean again, it's kind of
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the paradise. Getting broken up with in Paradise is hard.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: It's not easy, it's frustrating, it's it's emotional. But when
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: it's for a relationship that you actually believe has a chance,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that I'm kind of more or less all in on it,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: like I very much supported, and I think this is
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: one we're Victoria was even saying, like, Alex feels like
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: he's in a more of a place in life that
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I want to get to write where he's at least
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: interested and engagement. He's at least interested in the family. Um,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: he's older, you know, he's more steady and stable. And
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Johnny might be there too. I'm not saying he's not,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: but I think Victoria is just sensing Alex is more Yeah,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: it's more of somebody I want to be with. He
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: said in the last season, you know, his Bachelorette season,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: he said, I'm not ready to get engaged. So what's
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: us to think that's six weeks later he's ready to
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: get serious Or was he just saying that because he
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: didn't see himself getting engaged to Gabby. I don't think
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: that's the case. Actually, I think he truly just like
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: isn't ready. But I do think he's like, holy crap,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Victoria Fuller, like the you know, sex siren, Victoria Fuller,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I have the the option, the option, the you know, opportunity,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: opportunity to be with this woman. So sought after and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: all that. Like, I think that maybe that changes his
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: mind a little bit, not too you know, that's not
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: anything against Gabby, but I do think that in the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: franchise and even just like in the public eye, like
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: outside the franchise, like Victoria does come across as like
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a la la you know what I mean. Yeah, I
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: mean she is, she's She's a beautiful human. We got
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: to spend the time with Victoria in Vegas. I'm a
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: little bit upset with Victoria because everybody else there, Genevieve
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and Rachel, uh, we're talking about kind of their experiences
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: on the show, kind of how Paradise went down. Victoria's
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: kept really close to clue she's with Alex or Johnny
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: or not. Like she didn't say a word. She was
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: involved in the conversation. She was very like funny and
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: collaborative in the conversations. But she now I look back
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and like, she didn't tell me anything about where her
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: experience went, so she could still be with this dude.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I just have no idea, and I sometimes like to know.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's her mystery. That's what's what's one
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: of the things that's so alluring about her. Yeah, there's
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of mystery to it, but it does go
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: feel like it's a great day. It feels like their
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: relationship could be something exciting, and it doesn't have kind
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: of the paradise passion that you oftentimes see how it's say,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: like where it's like they just make out and that's
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: all they do for an hour and a half. It
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: feels like their date is very much a like a
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: normal first day sit down. Have to have a conversation,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: get to know each other, see where your guys interests are,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: where you want to see this go. Uh And so
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I do think there's some like some some strength to it,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and it would make a lot of sense to me.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I mean they relate like those two together make a
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: lot of sense to me, because yeah, she might be
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: kind of this like mysterious, very attractive, very like funny,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: witty human. But then you have Alex who might just
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: be as equally mysterious as you know, he's very attractive, um,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: and we haven't seen a lot from him, So who knows,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: you know, what they bring out in each other and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: where this goes from here? Yeah, why isn't this guy
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: scooped up? That's my question? That's a good question, all right.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Brittany and Tyler, they're like the next couple that is
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: forming over at Fandanta. Tyler went on a date with
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: a last week. But basically, Brittany and Tyler are saying,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you know, it's you, it's you. This is like the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: first couple we can actually say has formed because of
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the split they you know, it's just Senya and Andrew
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: are a thing back to the beach, and now Brittany
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: and Tyler are a thing in Pandanta. So it's just
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: this is actually going to be clean, you know what
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, you would expect at this point in
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the episode, you expected to be clean because of how
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: it's set up. I thought Andrew and Brittany had something.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I'm actually they're cute. They're very cute. Yeah, where this
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: is going I do want to spend and it is
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: kind of the closing scene of this episode. I think
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: it's where we could probably end our breakdown of this
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: episode because I think it's the last really important storyline
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: that we haven't covered. But you know, Snay still feels
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: and and I actually want to dig into this a
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: little bit. She still obviously feels like there is something
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: between her and Tyler. There is a weird statement though,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: that happens before the scene where Tyler and Brittany are
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: making out, where she is talking to Genevieve. I've been saying,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I know Logan's not with anybody else in the beach,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: because if he is, I would cut off his and
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: it bleeps it out, So I don't know what she says.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I have an assumption of what she's going to cut
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: off if he's with somebody else, and I'm one at
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: this point, I'm very confused, and you need to help
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: me understand this, because why would she be upset with
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: love Logan for moving on from her when she and
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: her mind has moved on to Tyler or has she
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: really moved on to Tyler? And she just more um
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: oddly protective and wanting like Tyler and Logan. But it's
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: not making sense to me because in one voice, she
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: sounds like she's still in the Logan and wants to
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: be with Logan and doesn't want Logan to anybody else
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: and the other boys. It sounds like she doesn't want
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Brittany to date Tyler and she wants Tyler to be
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: with her, But yet the Tyler connection has been gone
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: since that date. We haven't seen any um since that date,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and so you gotta help me make sense of this.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: My interpretation is just that she doesn't want anybody with
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Tyler because like she went on a date with him
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: kind of like claimed in in her head, and then
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: she's still waiting to be with Logan, like she kind
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: of wants all her options. Basically, she wants to be
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: like I am going to make the choice between whether
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I want to be a Tyler or whether I want
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to be with Logan, and she just doesn't like that
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Logan is now seemingly off the table. Yeah. Yeah, I
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: mean I'm not saying it's like right or makes sense,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: but like it's a girl's brain and if a guy's
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: brain too. You know, this is just like we're in Paradise,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: things are getting competitive. She doesn't want to feel like
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: she's being rejected by anyone, but she's obviously in front
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: of her face. Yeah, her, the competition is is there,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and she's like looking at this as like she lost
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: one of the competitions to Brittany. Yeah, okay, that makes sense, uh,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: that it's more of a competition. Feel the whole idea
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: of it doesn't make sense to me because I was like, Okay,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: she's going after Tyler. Now, this whole Logan thing, whatever
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: he's worried about, you know, is done. She's gonna come
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: back to the beach and have moved on from him.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So that's all good. Now she's focused on Tyler. But
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: then she makes these statements that like, so she's still
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: in the Logan, still in the Tyler, but ship she
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: feels like she's more into Tyler right now because he's
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: who's in front of her. Um. The Brittany and Tyler connection, Um,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: it's obviously there, and I think it's been there since
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: night one. He you know, this then date kind of like,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: uh was like kind of a detour. But I always
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: felt like there was no shot Tyler and Brittany weren't
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: going to get back together. Like their chemistry and how
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: they he like talked to the first night. I felt
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: like it was always something was gonna pull them back together.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I do think this relationships makes a lot of sense.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I don't understand still why Chane is going to be
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: so mad and confrontational on it. Um, I think she's
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: just being Yeah, that makes and it was the day
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: they were like drinking. So I mean, there we go.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: That's what it was. That's what it was. I also
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: just want to add about that comment about cutting off
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: his thing. That is a little strange that she I
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: think it's a little strange that she feels so certain
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: that Logan is hers when she goes back, because they
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: were never super strong. She never was like I at
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the end of it all, she was like, yeah, I
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: choose you, right, But she was always in between him
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and like someone else, James James. I mean she was
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: with James up until the moment she picked Logan. Yeah,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the whole thing. I don't think you know, you have
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: to kind of like disregard some of the emotion behind
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: it and say, okay, what's the actual story. Like she
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: was with James, she chose Logan last minute, next day
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: they split up. The relationship isn't super strong, It doesn't
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: have a lot of like backstory to it. She goes
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: into the house, goes on a date with Tyler. Uh,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: obviously Tyler is showing interesting. Now somebody else. So she's
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: back thinking about Logan and saying, yeah, there's no way
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Logan to be with anybody else, Like, I'd be super
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: here if he was when in reality, we know he's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: been with two other people since today has been there. Um,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: so he's definitely moved on. But if you go back
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: an episode, you remember that even Logan had a hard
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: time processing what the right and wrong decision was here,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: um and and how. But it doesn't feel like that's
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: on his mind anymore. It feels like he's pretty sold
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: out on Kate and uh. And in the next episode, um,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: that we'll talk about and have about tomorrow. I'm sure
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: we're going to see the nai K Logan interaction, which, uh,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: which will be interesting to say at least for sure,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: because I do believe that they had a little drama
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: women tell all and play throughout their entire Clayton season. Okay, well,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: where you're going to take a quick break and we're
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: going to get to Bachelor headlines after this. It's time
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: for Bachelor headlines. Well, this one's an interesting one. Michael
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: a who obviously came into Paradise as a fan favorite.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I still believe he is a fan favorite. He is
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: they a very well known character on from The Bachelor
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: at going into Paradise. Uh, we've you know, saying his
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: praises on this show because he's a great guy. Um,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: but he's gotten a lot of heat over the last
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: two weeks. Some of it deserved for how he handled
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: some of the situations in Paradise, and it's been interesting
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: to read and follow along. So here it is. Here's
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the headline. Michael A admits he could have handled the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: breakup better with Sierra Jackson. This according to People. Okay, well,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: he said that taking a rose when your heart's not
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: in it is leading someone on. Choosing to end my
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: only relationship when I was gifted a constellation and didn't
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: have a rose was not a good look. But I
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: knew that. Um he says, I still should have handled
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the breakup better. That's on me. I don't know. He's
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: beginning so much flag about this, and I understand that,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Like it was such a sucky situation for Sierra. I
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: know that she. I understand why she feels a little
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: bit betrayed because he and Danielle did have a bit
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: of a rapport going on, never met in real life.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: There was definitely like a plan behind the scenes, you know,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: to bring Danielle in and like them to hit it off.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I get that, I see it. We all see. It
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: was very much like what we were saying with Demi
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. But listen, there's not much
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: else he could have done, in my opinion, then slow
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Sierra down while they were dating like that. That is
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: probably where he messed up. He needed to say before
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: he actually broke up with her and be like, hey,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: this is going a little fast. Hey I want to
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: hang out with you more, but this is going a
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: little too fast. He just needed to give her some
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: more yield signs, do you know what I mean? He
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: gave her no yield signs, and that's where he got
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: in trouble because it did seem so abrupt. I think so.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was abrupt, and I think
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: it was confusing. And I think the one of the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: other things here is when you do it and you
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: you don't give any yield signs, you really don't open
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: up the door for the other person to pursue talk
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: to somebody, and so you kind of like, if they're saying, King,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: this person seemed sold out on me, I obviously sold
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: out on them. Let's run with this, and then when
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: it ends, you're kind of thrown off because all of
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: your opportunities and all of that, like the options availab
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: imparadis have been taken away. So I do I think
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: he could have slowed it down a bit. I think
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: he could have probably communicated better. Uh, you know, I don't.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily going back to last week, I'm not
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: upset that, you know, Danielle's in Paradise and now we
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: get to see their relationship kind of go from here.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I am excited to watch that, and I think it's
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: one that could be very real and last to the
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: end of the show. But yeah, I mean, I think
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: it's a lesson learned. Uh you know, but how how
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: critical can we be of somebody for how they handle
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: relationships and paradise because relationships and paradise are so odd
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: just from the start, where you're dating people, multiple people
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: that are living in one house together. It's weird. So
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I'm glad he's thinking this through. I'm glad he came
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: out and kind of said he could have handled it better. Uh.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: And yes, Sierra definitely got the short in the stick here.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: She she was confused, thrown off, and now she sits
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: here going, well, that was not cool. What did I
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: get out of Paradise? I could have had another relationship. Yeah. Um,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: next in line is this Roomy or Alexander If you
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: remember him, he was on you remember him, he was
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: just kind of there for a bid, reveals his bachelo
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: in Paradise regrets I was uncertain this According to full
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Batchel Nation article, basically, he's just saying that if you
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: were to do it all over again, he wouldn't rush things.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: He feels bad for like shutting Cara down quickly. He
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: it just feels like he should have like kept things
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: a little bit more open ended, so it wasn't like
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  Speaker 1: I'm you know, I am going to pursue you. I
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: am cutting you off. And then he just says in general,
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  Speaker 1: he just doesn't have good game. Uh, he's not good
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  Speaker 1: at like saying no, he's not kind of rejecting people.
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  Speaker 1: He admits that he was awkward, and he says this
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  Speaker 1: triangle was a tricky thing. As much as I was
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  Speaker 1: proud of myself for day one for saying I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to pursue Jill, in retrospect, that was a mistake. I
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: really should have held back a little bit. I would
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  Speaker 1: like to know whether he's still with Kia. Do we
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: get this answer now, or do we get it like,
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's going to be at the reunion show,
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  Speaker 1: so he's probably not allowed to say anything yet. I
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: have to be at through union show, um, and we'll
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: have to look for that. Then final headline is bachelor Lemptino,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: who was the one that Rachel picked on the last
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: season of The Bachelorette, reveals that Evan Jones did reach
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: out to apologize after awkward finale moment. This according to
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise article. Okay, so, as you remember, in
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: a very traumatic scene, or at least it was for
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  Speaker 1: me and Tino, and me as a viewer and Tino
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: as a human being on stage, he was sitting up there,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: things are going very horribly with Rachel, and then Aven
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: came up and and said, hey, Richel, can I basically
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: steal you for a segment? And it was just the
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: most demoralizing moment I've ever seen on live TV. Well, Aven,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Aven was not did not really know that that was
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: how the situation was going to unfold, And he did
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: text Tino, and this is how Tino describes what went
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: down between him and even after that moment. Because Aven's
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: a great dude. Aven's super nice, always been straightforward, super accountable.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think he knew I was going to be
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: out there when he came out and he reached out
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: the night of after the Final Rose, when I think
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: my phone was off because I was getting too many texts.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: It was really overwhelming, and he texted me and said, um, hey,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I'm really sorry. That was tough, And then they talked
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: on the phone the next day. He said that he
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: didn't know that it was going that he was going
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to make him look, you know, it was gonna be
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: just an embarrassing situation, and he said, I think he
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: just went on there with the intention of cheering up Rachel,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't supposed to be like a I'm trying
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: to get the girl back situation. Yeah. Yeah, well, I'm
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: sure there was obviously, like we always think there's more
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: to the story than what we see, and it didn't
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: ever feel like Even was going to intentionally embarrass Tino
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: or want to embarrass him on stage. It's just kept
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: and how it happened. But we haven't had nothing really
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: on Even and Rachel since that little date they went on.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's over and done with and everybody's moving on,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: and that it was what it was and uh, you
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: know whatever. Well, in this episode with a very exciting announcement,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Lauren Bushnell Lane shares update on baby number two with
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: husband Chris nothing but peaceful and perfect. This according to People, yep,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: she said that the baby named Baker weston our little
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Man surprises in nine Days Early, late Sunday night, still
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: laughing thinking about my water breaking, very aggressive movie like
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: situation driving to the hospital in Chris's truck pants less
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: by the way, because my car was out of gas
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: and Dutton was sleeping. It was very chaotic. Up, why
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: would you be pantless because your cars? Ok? So this
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: is I okay, So no, she's using parentheses in this writing.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: So she says, but that's a great question. Driving myself
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: driving herself to the hospital in Chris's truck pants less
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: by the way. But she's driving herself in Chris's truck
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: because her car was out of gas and Dutton was sleeping.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Question though, who'd she leave Dutton with? Good question? It
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: feels do like a movie scene, like one of those
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: like random like nine days early, unexpected. Oh my gosh,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I got it to the hospital. Here we go, breaths,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: bring the F one straight down. The highway. You know,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: this is like such a this is such a question though,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: what do you do if your kid is sleeping and
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: you're the only one home, you go into labor? Do
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: you just let them sleep in the crib and then
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: just have a friend be like, go go over to
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: the house right now? I would? I mean, it sounds
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: like it because what I'm confused on and we need
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: we need more backstory here. But why was you know,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: why wasn't there anybody else driving? Doesn't sound like Chris
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: was home? Yeah, so was there nobody else around? So
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: she's just like, yeah, somebody grew into the house. I
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: gotta go to do this? Who knows? That sounds like
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: a wild scenario, but it all seems to work out.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I needed to know more of this story. But yes,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: she says that the story before him coming was chaotic,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: unplanned and panicked, but the moment he came into this
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: world has been nothing but peaceful and perfect. So that's
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: that's cute. Cute, And the names the names of the
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: kids are cute because they match sort of. It's Dutton
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Walker and Baker Weston. It's cute. Yeah, that's great. Well,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: congratulates two of them very excited for them. Ashley, We're
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: gonna jump right back on tomorrow. I have another episode
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: of a Bachelor Paradise recap, so everybody out there stay
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: tuned for that. But until then, I've been. Then, I've been, Ashley,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: see tomorrow. Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous
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