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#85 | Been Stangin' Customs (Mitchell Finesse) · Corpus Christi Originals Podcast

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SPEAKER_05: What's going on, y'all?
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SPEAKER_05: Corpus Christi Reginals back at it again.
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SPEAKER_05: Today we got one another original, another legend in the house.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh we're celebrating success stories on the Corpus Christi Originals podcast.
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SPEAKER_05: Coming to you live from the produced sound studios, downtown Corpus Christi, Texas, with Mitchell Finesse, founder of Ben Stangin Customs from our West Side.
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SPEAKER_05: He's built the name design and custom cleats for NFL MLB stars like Jalen Hurts and Javier Baez, landing on Washington Nationals deal.
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SPEAKER_05: And a shot at Super Bowl 59 exposure.
0:28
SPEAKER_05: We'll dive into his journey, sneaker industry trends, and how social media marketing has fueled his rise.
0:34
SPEAKER_05: Chats open.
0:34
SPEAKER_05: Let's begin.
0:36
SPEAKER_05: Mitchell, it's great to have you here in the studio.
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SPEAKER_05: Produce Sound Studios.
0:39
SPEAKER_05: How does it feel to be back in Corpus Christi sitting in downtown with us today?
0:42
SPEAKER_05: And after all your success with the Bensangan Customs.
0:45
SPEAKER_03: Oh man, it feels great to be home.
0:47
SPEAKER_03: Um shout out to everybody who uh been along the journey with me.
0:52
SPEAKER_03: And uh, you know, just excited to come back, you know, take it back to where, you know, I guess the roots all started for the journey on anything, whether it was culture or athletes, you know, wanting to get anything done by me, whether it was music-wise or, you know, custom-wise, uh, for shoes or gear.
1:09
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, it's been a great journey so far, and just coming back home to be able to present that in front of people at a live event and uh take care of some things in between here and there.
1:18
SPEAKER_03: It's it's awesome.
1:19
SPEAKER_05: It's already, bro.
1:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and right off the bat, I want to credit the Right and High podcast for a research on this episode, man.
1:24
SPEAKER_05: Uh, they have go check it out.
1:26
SPEAKER_05: If you haven't checked it out, there's uh Mitchell Finesse here with Rip Benstain Customs has an episode with them.
1:30
SPEAKER_05: So a lot of that uh backstory comes from that I got.
1:33
SPEAKER_05: I got it from there.
1:34
SPEAKER_05: Uh, so it's great you're having this still.
1:36
SPEAKER_05: Let's see where we're going here.
1:38
SPEAKER_05: Uh let's start on the West Side, Madrid and Greenwood.
1:41
SPEAKER_05: What was it like growing up uh in a Mexican household adopted by adopted into a predominantly Brack neighborhood?
1:47
SPEAKER_05: Uh, how did that experience shape you?
1:49
SPEAKER_03: Uh man, it's everything that I am today, bro.
1:51
SPEAKER_03: I mean, shout out to all my brothers, you know.
1:54
SPEAKER_03: Um, the it it it be just growing up there, it was awesome.
1:59
SPEAKER_03: Only for the fact that, you know, it was kind of a unique place to be growing up at that time, you know, uh the early 90s, you know, the mid-90s, late 90s.
2:10
SPEAKER_03: It was really just eye-opening, getting to see a lot and be a part of a lot of things.
2:15
SPEAKER_03: And then started my music journey with the Wood Boys there, you know, that's where the Wood Boys originated was off of Greenwood and Madrid.
2:21
SPEAKER_03: And, you know, shout out to my brothers because, you know, without their guidance and what it is that shape that, you know, how they shaped me to be, you know, turn me into who I am today.
2:30
SPEAKER_03: So I'm grateful for them.
2:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, how is that experience, I guess, growing up and with the best of both worlds?
2:36
SPEAKER_05: I guess you could say how's that carried on to your your cleat business now or just your journey together?
2:42
SPEAKER_03: Everything.
2:42
SPEAKER_03: I mean, just life in itself, you know, being able to to have uh the education behind everything, you know, just knowing that you got a lot from, you know, here and this this type of you know, lifestyle and culture, whether it's you know, race or religion or whatever the case may be.
3:01
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, just having, you know, my mom and and being raised in a household where I can, you know, when my grandma was alive at the time, you know, the Spanish, you know, growing up and as a kid, you know, you can't answer your grandparents without answering them in Spanish, or you don't get, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
3:18
SPEAKER_03: Old school, old school whooping.
3:20
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, I think uh, you know, having that and then having my brothers, you know, show me the ropes about, you know, music and what it was like, you know, back in the day, uh, I was a big dancer back in the day too.
3:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like hip hop dancing, you know, choreography.
3:34
SPEAKER_03: Oh, cool.
3:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, I used to I used to do a bunch of stuff back in the day, and you know, it dabbled from the dancing, choreography, going into actually, you know, being uh some type of a rapper, MC on a mic, and then going into production, and then eventually, you know, when I dived into this business that I'm doing now, I figured, you know, the amount of money that I made in one year, the amount of money that I made in one year doing this, my first year doing this business, two decades of music couldn't even come close.
4:08
SPEAKER_03: And in addition to that, so the math was just easy for me.
4:11
SPEAKER_05: Did you did you expect the I guess the music industry to have that type of uh I guess like pay into it, you know what I mean?
4:18
SPEAKER_03: Or was it what I just I just feel like everybody wants to take that path.
4:23
SPEAKER_03: I feel like majority it's kind of saturated now, and it's nothing against artists who have a passion for wanting to do something like that.
4:31
SPEAKER_03: I've just seen it from experience that you know there's a lot of people that want to do it, you know, and there's not a lot of people that customize and what I do now.
4:39
SPEAKER_03: You know, that it's it's there's so much work and we don't have enough employees.
4:42
SPEAKER_03: You've ever heard of that?
4:43
SPEAKER_03: You've ever heard of that at a company?
4:45
SPEAKER_03: Man, we got all this work, bro, but we ain't got enough.
4:47
SPEAKER_05: I ain't heard of it, but I can see it like in in your line of business.
4:50
SPEAKER_05: It seems like you there was a need and you kind of fulfilled that need, and now it's like, dude, like you there's there's customers when there's only like for instance, when I used to play music, I play guitar.
4:59
SPEAKER_05: Every time I go to the music store, look at the flyers, need bass player, need bass player, need blaze player.
5:03
SPEAKER_05: Well, I'm like, shoot, well, I gotta learn how to play the bass in order to be in a band.
5:07
SPEAKER_05: So basically, you you find a need, and then you got customers, you got money coming in.
5:12
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it just grateful for the opportunity.
5:15
SPEAKER_03: It everything lines up on its own, and when it's meant to be, it's gonna fall into place easily.
5:20
SPEAKER_03: Like it was crazy because who thinks of you know, um a start of success in something, right?
5:26
SPEAKER_03: So organic in the middle of COVID, not even the middle, in the spike of COVID.
5:31
SPEAKER_03: And my mine flourished.
5:32
SPEAKER_03: And while people were at home, you know, going through depression and bankruptcy and stuff, you know, I was grateful that I was able to prevail and just kind of stay looking at the glass half full.
5:43
SPEAKER_03: Like I can use social media to my advantage.
5:45
SPEAKER_03: If we're at home and everybody's just flipping through their phone, you might as well, right?
5:49
SPEAKER_03: Right.
5:49
SPEAKER_03: And my nephew gave me the opportunity.
5:51
SPEAKER_03: He was my first client.
5:52
SPEAKER_03: What's crazy is my biggest client, or shall I say, my um the word, come on, guys, y'all gotta help me out.
5:59
SPEAKER_03: The word is not like your biggest client, like he's your most important, but he is to me.
6:04
SPEAKER_03: Like now, people might not agree, like, oh, well, you did something for somebody who's bigger than him.
6:08
SPEAKER_03: It's not that.
6:09
SPEAKER_03: It's he's the one who gave me the opportunity for the platform he had to say, hey, give me these.
6:14
SPEAKER_03: And matter of fact, it wasn't even his idea.
6:16
SPEAKER_03: It was me and his uncle, my brother Maestro.
6:19
SPEAKER_03: Right.
6:19
SPEAKER_03: We talked about it.
6:20
SPEAKER_03: We were like, hey, we should do a pair for him before the Capital One Orange Bowl when he was playing at AM.
6:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
6:24
SPEAKER_03: He was only a sophomore.
6:25
SPEAKER_03: So we did it and we shipped it out overnight to AM.
6:28
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
6:29
SPEAKER_03: He got it the day before they got on the plane in Miami, and we didn't know if he was gonna wear them.
6:33
SPEAKER_03: And let me understand, yeah.
6:34
SPEAKER_05: And let me understand this.
6:35
SPEAKER_05: This is your first pair of cleats that you made.
6:37
SPEAKER_03: Ever.
6:37
SPEAKER_05: The first pair.
6:38
SPEAKER_03: Ever.
6:38
SPEAKER_03: You want to know why?
6:39
SPEAKER_03: Because what I practiced on was why am I gonna go buy shoes to practice on?
6:42
SPEAKER_03: And you can even go buy shoes from Walmart 20, 30 bucks, but I was buying poster board.
6:46
SPEAKER_03: I was going to the Dollar Tree.
6:48
SPEAKER_01: Oh, hell yeah, bro.
6:49
SPEAKER_03: Strokes and just you know, shading and texture, and just you know, overlapping stencil removal, application.
6:56
SPEAKER_03: Everything was done on stencil board, bro, to where in my mind I was like, oh, this is this is nothing, bro.
7:01
SPEAKER_03: It's just like the music.
7:02
SPEAKER_03: And if you ask me what helped, that is what helped being able to create a song from scratch and being able to do something like you know, hearing how the song's gonna sound before you've done anything, before you know, they've made the beat, before I've written anything, before I've recorded anything, I know how it's gonna sound.
7:16
SPEAKER_03: I could do the same with the shoes.
7:17
SPEAKER_03: So when I was doing it on poster board, I just told him we need to do it.
7:20
SPEAKER_03: He's like, You ready?
7:21
SPEAKER_03: You feel like you could do it?
7:22
SPEAKER_03: I said, Yeah.
7:23
SPEAKER_03: And it was on national fucking television.
7:25
SPEAKER_05: Sorry, national, good, talk, good, yeah, dude.
7:27
SPEAKER_05: National television, you know, it's crazy.
7:29
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
7:29
SPEAKER_05: So so he gave you that opportunity, which is his name is Anais, right?
7:33
SPEAKER_05: Anais Smith.
7:34
SPEAKER_05: He now plays for the Philadelphia Eagles.
7:36
SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
7:37
SPEAKER_01: So mind you, can I can I add some Super Bowl champions?
7:41
SPEAKER_05: Super Bowl chance, bro.
7:42
SPEAKER_01: Come on, Super Bowl champions.
7:43
SPEAKER_05: So I'm talking about champions, yeah.
7:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, hold up that helmet.
7:46
SPEAKER_05: Uh, he brought a helmet in for uh he made for Alex Martinez, the skateboard universal.
7:51
SPEAKER_05: There you go.
7:52
SPEAKER_05: Look at that.
7:53
SPEAKER_01: Go birds, man.
7:54
SPEAKER_05: All custom right there.
7:57
SPEAKER_05: All them customers, you got some you got some of them images?
8:00
SPEAKER_03: Can you put some images up?
8:01
SPEAKER_03: Y'all see the two Lombardies and the Philly skyline on there.
8:04
SPEAKER_03: Nice, the number one, you know.
8:06
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, it's just yeah, Rocky's back there.
8:09
SPEAKER_03: Rockies, right?
8:10
SPEAKER_05: Just pick it, just kind of gotta flip through them.
8:12
SPEAKER_05: That's good.
8:13
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, just flip through them, yeah.
8:15
SPEAKER_05: So here's some of here's some of the custom work that he's uh that I uh picked up off your Facebook page.
8:19
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
8:20
SPEAKER_05: Uh we got this catcher's uniform, obviously, with the Jordan on there.
8:23
SPEAKER_05: Oh, look at those.
8:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, those were those were pretty cool.
8:26
SPEAKER_03: I mean, the idea came from that exact idea came from one of my clients.
8:29
SPEAKER_03: Now that was for catcher cartel.
8:31
SPEAKER_03: So you're starting to use part hey bro, when I say one of the best catcher trainers that I've ever came across, good dude, solid dude.
8:37
SPEAKER_03: His son, his son is a beast.
8:39
SPEAKER_03: Both these boys are are gonna be some beasts.
8:41
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, he reached out to me.
8:42
SPEAKER_03: He was like, Hey, I got an all-green pair.
8:44
SPEAKER_03: Can you do something with it?
8:45
SPEAKER_03: I got a camo, I got a camo Rawlings, you know, chest protector.
8:48
SPEAKER_03: Can you match it with that?
8:50
SPEAKER_03: So I knocked out the camo and shipped it back.
8:52
SPEAKER_03: And he still got them to this day, bro.
8:53
SPEAKER_03: They still look great.
8:54
SPEAKER_03: They're like about three, four years old, maybe three years old.
8:56
SPEAKER_03: Look at those.
8:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, those are actually here.
8:58
SPEAKER_05: He's got those live.
8:59
SPEAKER_05: Let's check them out.
9:00
SPEAKER_03: Oh, look at those, bro.
9:01
SPEAKER_03: So these are actually baseball cleats.
9:03
SPEAKER_03: These were done in uh, you know, the the prime.
9:06
SPEAKER_03: Did I see one of them?
9:06
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
9:07
SPEAKER_03: You can see both of them.
9:07
SPEAKER_03: The prime uh sorry, I'm trying to.
9:09
SPEAKER_03: Talk it, talk it, talk.
9:10
SPEAKER_03: Gotta got him.
9:11
SPEAKER_03: Uh the prime uh, you know, inspired by Dion instead of doing on my phone.
9:16
SPEAKER_03: See, the thing is is that when they come out with these cleats, they don't come out with anything under a size seven.
9:20
SPEAKER_05: So dope, man.
9:21
SPEAKER_03: So all these kids that want them that are under seven can't get them.
9:24
SPEAKER_03: So I gotta create them.
9:25
SPEAKER_03: You see what I'm saying?
9:25
SPEAKER_03: They don't make them in their size, the real ones.
9:27
SPEAKER_03: They make them in a size like seven or eight and go up.
9:30
SPEAKER_03: So you had all the kids that want them that can't get them from a store or from Nike or whatever, I create them for them.
9:36
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
9:36
SPEAKER_03: And then now it's dipping into baseball because now baseball players are like, hey, I want the primes, but on some baseball cleans.
9:41
SPEAKER_03: So I'm like, I can put the primes on track spikes if you want them.
9:43
SPEAKER_05: That's interesting, man.
9:44
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
9:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
9:45
SPEAKER_05: And so you had a you had a deal with uh dick sporting goods?
9:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh does it do you still have that or you still mess with that?
9:50
SPEAKER_03: So I actually have a partner that is he's he's chimed in with with dicks at a wholesale.
9:58
SPEAKER_03: So what he does is we actually run, you know, how how a business.
10:02
SPEAKER_03: We, you know, you get your your business credit for your for your company.
10:05
SPEAKER_05: Kind of like a wholesale wholesaler, yeah.
10:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we actually have we actually have like a contract to where I think it's until like 27, but by that time, I mean everything will kind of just be paying for itself already.
10:17
SPEAKER_03: Right on, right on.
10:18
SPEAKER_03: Wow, wow, man.
10:20
SPEAKER_05: Amazing, man.
10:20
SPEAKER_05: So uh yeah, we got off track.
10:21
SPEAKER_05: What do we where's the timer at, Maya?
10:24
SPEAKER_05: Um you mentioned in the in the right and high podcast about having timeless music with the Wood Boys that you learn how to create timeless music and and like you can listen to it now and it still sounds good nowadays.
10:35
SPEAKER_05: Uh, how do you see that mindset applying to your custom cleats now, especially in today's fast-moving sneaker industry?
10:42
SPEAKER_03: Um, I mean, just same thing, you know, just being able to create a vision, know what it's gonna be like, execute it.
10:49
SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm very one-on-one with my clients.
10:52
SPEAKER_03: Uh, I did have recently, and this is you know a public apology to those that it affected, but I did have uh something happen with an account with a carrier that there was just some misconception.
11:05
SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, I had somebody use my account to ship my product out while I was catching a flight, and it got red flag because it was, you know, fraud or you know, an alert for fraud.
11:15
SPEAKER_03: A bunch of, you know, politics went into it, paperwork and whatnot.
11:19
SPEAKER_03: And like I said, it was just unfortunate.
11:21
SPEAKER_03: But I finally got the people that I was making up those cleats for that I'm working on.
11:26
SPEAKER_03: And I'm here now too that I ship some over here to myself to deliver in person.
11:30
SPEAKER_03: So everything is is great.
11:31
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I'm very one-on-one.
11:33
SPEAKER_03: If if something were to happen, yeah, I guarantee I would just do it all over again.
11:37
SPEAKER_03: And if you end up to happen with two pairs, you know, that was just because of, like I said, the the misunderstanding that happened with that carrier.
11:44
SPEAKER_03: But other than that, you know, like I said, it's always been great one-on-one with the with my clients and being able to do stuff that you know that they can see and then they give me their idea and then I take it and I put it into what it comes out to be.
11:56
SPEAKER_05: So yeah, right on.
11:58
SPEAKER_05: It's um, so it seems like the the MOB, NFL, like they're letting players actually uh I guess express themselves on their uniforms.
12:09
SPEAKER_05: So that's a that's a real big thing right there.
12:11
SPEAKER_05: Have you ran into ish any issues to where you're like, oh, you can't put this on a cleat or you can't put that on a club?
12:16
SPEAKER_03: Um the only thing that I've been told is like, for example, college, collegiate is real big on following using the same style cleats that they're branded for their uniforms.
12:25
SPEAKER_03: So if it's an underarm school, they want you to and and it and only certain athletes are gonna be able to have the the okay to get customized cleats.
12:34
SPEAKER_03: You kind of gotta be at that standard, that level of play or popularity.
12:39
SPEAKER_03: No, it all of it, it's all NIL.
12:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's it's all likes and popularity.
12:44
SPEAKER_03: If you bring in money, like throw some names like Shador Sanders, you know, Travis Hunter, my nephew when he played in college, you know, these are guys that they could wear the custom cleats and they're big names, and they they bring the numbers and they put the proof out on the field, you know.
12:59
SPEAKER_03: These are these are big names in college, you know.
13:02
SPEAKER_03: So I'm trying to just grow, you know, at the same time, organically.
13:06
SPEAKER_03: You know, I don't expect to go in and all these guys that have been in the league to come to me for their customs when they've had their guys that they've got to.
13:13
SPEAKER_03: Now, my chances to come in with these middle schoolers, high schoolers, these college players, and when they grow, I'm growing with them.
13:20
SPEAKER_03: There's people like, especially like tuned in right now, like my boy Johnny.
13:24
SPEAKER_03: He he he he comes every season.
13:28
SPEAKER_03: Football or baseball, you know, baseball for sure.
13:31
SPEAKER_03: You know, people regulars, they come back all the time because they know exactly what it is.
13:34
SPEAKER_05: Like nice, you know, they get exactly what they're so that's important in your industry, I guess in any industry to have that type of relationship with your customer.
13:42
SPEAKER_03: It has to, even if stuff's going wrong, as long as you communicate, I mean it people understand, you know, and like I said, I'll pull up on you and make it right.
13:50
SPEAKER_03: I'll I'll I'll set up in front of you and I'll customize the cleats right there in front of you and your son.
13:54
SPEAKER_03: If if you felt like there was something that didn't come out the way you wanted it to be, you know, I haven't done a mock-up in over like three years.
14:01
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
14:02
SPEAKER_03: So people just say, Hey man, this is what I want.
14:04
SPEAKER_03: I trust a lot of the times they say, Hey, I trust your work, bro.
14:07
SPEAKER_03: I see your work, it's fire, bro.
14:09
SPEAKER_03: This is what I want.
14:09
SPEAKER_03: I want these colors, I want his name, I want his number.
14:12
SPEAKER_03: His grandma passed away.
14:13
SPEAKER_03: Can you throw like his grandma's initials with little angel wings?
14:18
SPEAKER_01: Cool.
14:18
SPEAKER_03: And then when I present it, they're just like, wow.
14:20
SPEAKER_05: Wow, dude.
14:21
SPEAKER_05: Like they uh, you know, you kind of see the how do you find yourself placing putting placing it on the cleat or whatever, you know what I mean?
14:27
SPEAKER_05: Is it just like does it come natural to you?
14:29
SPEAKER_05: Is it something that I mean?
14:30
SPEAKER_05: I guess creativity is one of those things where you just if I have the freedom to do it, yeah.
14:34
SPEAKER_03: If I got the freedom to do it, and somebody said, you know, I've even had somebody say, I'll pay you extra, bro, to take them way over the top.
14:40
SPEAKER_03: Like for like these, like so these right here, this is just an example.
14:44
SPEAKER_03: These are like a like a what like a what the dunks, like the what the dunks that came out, there was like a different pattern of dunks on uh from like different dunks on one shoe.
14:53
SPEAKER_03: So what I incorporated with these was there was five different show these my there was five different uniforms that my client sent me for his son.
15:01
SPEAKER_03: He said, We got all these five uniforms that I want to incorporate on one pair of oh wow.
15:06
SPEAKER_03: So what I did was I took the different patterns, like the different panels on there and created something that went with that.
15:13
SPEAKER_03: That's a good idea, Miss Targe.
15:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
15:15
SPEAKER_03: So that's why it kind of looks crazy.
15:17
SPEAKER_03: Like, why is there that blue?
15:18
SPEAKER_03: But there's also like pink and turquoise, but then there's also you know the black and white zigzag, and then you got the gold in the back, what's going on?
15:25
SPEAKER_03: That's exactly the whole point.
15:27
SPEAKER_03: It can match any of the uniforms that they throw on, and that was kind of the whole concept.
15:31
SPEAKER_03: He was like, Look, if I if I could, I'd get him one for every uniform, but you know, he's only so big, he's only so old, and he's gonna outgrow these.
15:38
SPEAKER_03: He's gonna outgrow them.
15:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so let's just get one, you know.
15:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we could do that.
15:42
SPEAKER_05: Let's just get one and try to you still you do you still like travel?
15:46
SPEAKER_05: I guess do you still live on the road and take your kit with you everywhere to like your hotel rooms and stuff?
15:50
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
15:51
SPEAKER_03: So that was when he was younger.
15:52
SPEAKER_03: Now he's uh he's bigger now, he's already five.
15:55
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
15:55
SPEAKER_05: You like because I know you have a briefcase with your setup and airbrush.
15:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I know you said my kid, I was a hard kid big.
16:01
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
16:02
SPEAKER_03: Nah, so I do have a kit, it's a travel setup.
16:04
SPEAKER_03: I actually have one that's at my shop that's bigger.
16:07
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's it's it's it's set, you know, on a on a big stand-up.
16:12
SPEAKER_03: It's stationary.
16:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
16:13
SPEAKER_03: This one is a travel setup, and I actually take it and it does fold up into a briefcase.
16:17
SPEAKER_03: And it's actually funny because I travel carry on.
16:19
SPEAKER_03: It's in a big Nike duffel, and I'll have my stencil cutter, I'll have my shrink wrapper, and I'll have my uh briefcase, which is my spray booth.
16:27
SPEAKER_03: And those three things go on with me because I can't afford for these guys who just throw them bags.
16:33
SPEAKER_03: Oh man, you know how many I have, bro?
16:35
SPEAKER_03: Um, dude, too many.
16:38
SPEAKER_03: So I'm just like, yeah, no, I'd rather deal any.
16:41
SPEAKER_05: They read it, it says fragile, and they're like fragile.
16:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I got a crazy shoulder injury just from carrying that thing, as many flights as I catch, and I'm carrying that duffel bag, bro.
16:49
SPEAKER_03: It kills me.
16:50
SPEAKER_03: So, but I'm like, I'll deal with that better than them breaking my stuff, you know.
16:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right on.
16:55
SPEAKER_05: And you were talking about on also on uh Red Night Podcast, shout out, uh, like how you how you do it.
17:01
SPEAKER_05: You put acetone and all that other stuff, dude.
17:04
SPEAKER_05: Like, how how did you go about?
17:05
SPEAKER_05: I guess how did you find out about this?
17:07
SPEAKER_05: Like how do YouTube, right?
17:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's the main thing.
17:09
SPEAKER_03: Just like anybody else, YouTube universe, just like anybody else.
17:11
SPEAKER_03: But the thing is that I applied myself.
17:12
SPEAKER_03: I said, you know what?
17:13
SPEAKER_03: I got I got a lot of people like my like my brothers that are sitting to the left of me, you know, freak and shout out Alex Martinez, uh Freakman, both from the High Right and High Podcast, Skateboard Universal, also.
17:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, like just an example, you know, when you when you have something that you're passionate about, like at one time it was music for me.
17:31
SPEAKER_03: I'm still passionate, but yeah, it just it's not for everybody.
17:35
SPEAKER_03: You can just like relationships, you can love somebody, but don't mean in anything.
17:39
SPEAKER_03: So I look at it like that.
17:40
SPEAKER_03: I love my music, but it didn't do what I needed it to do for me.
17:43
SPEAKER_03: And I just took those people that knew me from music and got their attention with this.
17:48
SPEAKER_03: I said, Hey, you know what?
17:49
SPEAKER_03: You support me with this, and I appreciate it, but can I bring y'all over here with me to this side?
17:54
SPEAKER_03: I still want your support, but it's gonna be for something different.
17:57
SPEAKER_03: So I I already had people that were kind of behind me to say what you're good at, whatever you do.
18:03
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
18:04
SPEAKER_03: You can make it work, and I'm just grateful that every year, my just my yearly salary, you know, or from you know, my yearly income is just every year, it's just better and better, and and it just shows that it's it's something something right is happening.
18:19
SPEAKER_03: The name of the game is not to get rich, it's to just be comfortable.
18:24
SPEAKER_03: I'm my own boss, I don't answer to nobody.
18:27
SPEAKER_03: I make my own arrangements, you know.
18:29
SPEAKER_05: Uh how's that feel?
18:32
SPEAKER_03: It took a while to get to where I'm at now, I'll tell you that.
18:35
SPEAKER_03: A long while.
18:36
SPEAKER_03: But it's worth it though.
18:37
SPEAKER_03: It really is.
18:38
SPEAKER_03: Like, if you really have a support system, you can really get something done, man, dude, just go for it.
18:44
SPEAKER_03: Cause man, I I I remember I was 21 a few years ago, or yesterday, or a week ago.
18:52
SPEAKER_03: Bro, bro.
18:55
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
18:57
SPEAKER_03: I don't get that time back.
18:58
SPEAKER_03: So I'm like, yeah, this is the time I just gotta start doing me, man.
19:01
SPEAKER_03: Uh and like uh my buddy Chris Bernal, you know, good dude, him and his wife Veronica, shout out to them.
19:06
SPEAKER_03: They're actually the hosts of the Perfect Game Super NIT that they're uh hosting this weekend, Saturday, Sunday in Portland.
19:13
SPEAKER_03: And uh, you know, we talked and you know, they were like, hey, we love what you do, we would love to bring you down, you know.
19:19
SPEAKER_03: What can we do?
19:20
SPEAKER_03: And we worked out an amazing deal, and I'm here.
19:23
SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm grateful to be here.
19:25
SPEAKER_03: It's a business trip.
19:26
SPEAKER_03: And you know, I I figured, you know, I did post.
19:29
SPEAKER_03: Um, I got with my with my team here, and uh, you know, we all got together and we were talking, you know, I needed to get something as far as some extra time in with some clients one-on-one, potentially new clientele, potentially, you know, returning clients where I could get some time slots.
19:45
SPEAKER_05: I saw you had that flyer.
19:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, it's it's like it's one-on-one, you know, and it's like, hey, you know, I'm gonna be in town if you want to get something.
19:51
SPEAKER_03: It's kind of like a tattoo artist.
19:53
SPEAKER_03: You've seen those tattoo artists, they make a post like, hey, I know I live in Corpus, but I'm gonna be in Houston for the weekend.
19:58
SPEAKER_03: If anybody needs anything, holla at me.
20:00
SPEAKER_03: It's kind of the same aspect.
20:01
SPEAKER_03: And I just wanted to create times because I wanted to give myself the fairness and saying, hey, I have I have kids here, you know, I have family, you know, my mom, my brothers.
20:11
SPEAKER_03: So I want to kind of be able to do both.
20:13
SPEAKER_05: You feel like you need to to, I guess you need to have that connection still with even though you live out of state, you still have to have that connection with uh the community in corpus?
20:22
SPEAKER_03: I I feel like it's huge.
20:23
SPEAKER_03: I feel like it's huge.
20:24
SPEAKER_03: Even if it's from a distance, I feel like the love is a little more um organic.
20:29
SPEAKER_03: I feel like it's not pressured.
20:30
SPEAKER_03: When you're in corpus, you kind of feel you you kind of feel like you're pressing people to like, you know, this is what I do, you put it in their face, right?
20:38
SPEAKER_03: Like I don't even live here.
20:39
SPEAKER_03: Like, and if you don't like what I do, right?
20:41
SPEAKER_03: The only way you see it is social media, just remove it, you know, or remove me, or you know, so I feel like everything that happens is for a reason.
20:48
SPEAKER_03: I've been gone since 2018.
20:50
SPEAKER_03: And uh when I got to experience what I never thought I would, you know.
20:54
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
20:54
SPEAKER_03: At first, when you don't think that you're gonna, you know, be around this long, I was like, man, you know, I'm actually doing real good.
21:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm 40 now, you know.
21:03
SPEAKER_03: My 20-year-old self was saying, Man, dude, it's rough, you know.
21:07
SPEAKER_03: I I gotta turn some stuff around, you know.
21:09
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
21:10
SPEAKER_03: 30, eh man, you know, corpus is great and I love it here, but am I gonna stay here my whole life?
21:16
SPEAKER_03: Is there anything else out there?
21:17
SPEAKER_03: And then I got the opportunity, I was like, Yeah, okay, now I know what it's like to like shit.
21:21
SPEAKER_03: I live in the mountains.
21:23
SPEAKER_05: Cool.
21:23
SPEAKER_03: I live in the mountains out there.
21:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I was sticking out on the way over here, it's like, man, dude, I wonder what it'd be like to live somewhere.
21:28
SPEAKER_05: And I've often thought of that too, like moving to somewhere else, you know.
21:32
SPEAKER_05: But it's just corpus is corpus.
21:34
SPEAKER_05: Like, what can we say, you know, corpus is corpus.
21:36
SPEAKER_03: You know what I I I get the most upset about is is like the smell of my mom's house.
21:41
SPEAKER_03: Or like, you know, of course, my kids, you know, my kids, but grateful for FaceTime, right?
21:46
SPEAKER_03: That you could FaceTime them all the time, see them, you know, talk to them.
21:49
SPEAKER_03: But the biggest thing is the food, like the culture.
21:51
SPEAKER_03: You can't we don't even got big red out there.
21:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, seriously.
21:54
SPEAKER_03: There's no big red out there.
21:55
SPEAKER_05: That's funny when you dropped it out there, you're like, What did that one?
21:58
SPEAKER_05: Because you had to go.
22:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't understand.
22:01
SPEAKER_03: It hurt my heart, bro.
22:02
SPEAKER_03: When I dropped that big red eye, I felt a piece of mine.
22:06
SPEAKER_03: Like that.
22:06
SPEAKER_03: I thought it jumped a little bit.
22:08
SPEAKER_03: I was like, bro, and I and it was in the bottom.
22:10
SPEAKER_01: It was in the bottom, bro.
22:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
22:12
SPEAKER_03: Come on, I'm not messing around.
22:13
SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm being I'm a little bougie.
22:15
SPEAKER_03: You know you're gonna give them as soon as we leave, as soon as you leave them, you know.
22:17
SPEAKER_03: I I just yeah, you know, I just mm mm-mm.
22:20
SPEAKER_05: Great man.
22:22
SPEAKER_05: Uh so yeah, so you're you I guess you had you have a contract with the nationals.
22:26
SPEAKER_05: You had a contract?
22:28
SPEAKER_03: So so what happened is it's actually the nationals organization.
22:32
SPEAKER_03: So where I was previously staying in the city or town that I was staying in, there's a triple A team there that's for the Nationals called the Fred Nats.
22:41
SPEAKER_03: It's the Fredericksburg Nationals, right?
22:43
SPEAKER_03: And um I organically ran into the catcher right outside.
22:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I ran into the catcher, I gave him a card.
22:49
SPEAKER_03: I said, Hey, this is what I do.
22:51
SPEAKER_03: Of course, he's from uh Venezuela.
22:54
SPEAKER_03: So he was like, you know, do you speak Spanish?
22:56
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, I speak Spanish.
22:56
SPEAKER_03: So we're chopping it up.
22:58
SPEAKER_03: I give him a card and I tell him what size are you?
23:00
SPEAKER_03: And he tells me, he tells me what he wants next day.
23:04
SPEAKER_03: Same time.
23:04
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
23:05
SPEAKER_03: He's coming from batting practice.
23:06
SPEAKER_03: I'm out there standing there and I call him.
23:08
SPEAKER_03: Wow, and he comes and he just freaks out.
23:11
SPEAKER_03: He tells me to wait.
23:12
SPEAKER_03: He goes, he grabs like five more players.
23:14
SPEAKER_03: They all come out.
23:15
SPEAKER_03: They're like, hey, hey, hey, you know, they're telling me in Spanish, but they're like, How much, bro?
23:19
SPEAKER_03: You got Cash App, you got Venmo, what you got?
23:21
SPEAKER_03: Like, I want a pair done.
23:23
SPEAKER_03: Very next day, I'm coming with like five pairs of cleats.
23:26
SPEAKER_03: I'm being escorted in a in a golf cart, you know.
23:29
SPEAKER_03: And uh they're just like, hey man, you know, is there any way we could possibly sit down and possibly talk about something that we can do, you know, for for in inside the clubhouse?
23:39
SPEAKER_03: You know, what can we do in-house?
23:41
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, yeah.
23:42
SPEAKER_03: So we sat down, then I went out to actually DC, sat down with the actual Nats organization, and then uh yeah, just and what was that like?
23:50
SPEAKER_03: Was that intimidating?
23:51
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it a little because you're going in wow, you're going in guns blazing, right?
23:55
SPEAKER_03: But it's one of those things.
23:56
SPEAKER_03: Um, you ever seen that movie War Dogs?
23:58
SPEAKER_05: Uh no.
23:59
SPEAKER_03: Okay, well, there's a movie War Dogs, these two dudes they walk in and they're going in against the big dogs, but they're like, fuck it, the worst they're gonna say is no, right?
24:06
SPEAKER_06: Right.
24:06
SPEAKER_03: And they go in and they win the bid that they're trying to go in, but they underpriced themselves majorly.
24:13
SPEAKER_03: So kind of the same thing.
24:14
SPEAKER_03: I feel like I went in there and I underpriced myself, but I still feel like I didn't.
24:19
SPEAKER_03: You want to know why?
24:20
SPEAKER_03: Because it's all a positive profit.
24:22
SPEAKER_03: It was it, it was a it was a contract I didn't even have.
24:26
SPEAKER_03: And on top of that, I just opened the doors for myself inside of a the ball, you know, playing organization.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: More exposure.
24:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure.
24:33
SPEAKER_03: I mean, and these kids they come in at 15 years old now from other countries.
24:38
SPEAKER_05: Nice.
24:38
SPEAKER_03: And if you could get a hold of one, it it I hate to say it like that, but if you could get a hold of one first and be like, hey, you know, if anybody's ever told you they could do customs for you, I'll do them for you.
24:48
SPEAKER_03: First pairs on me.
24:49
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
24:50
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
24:50
SPEAKER_03: Boom, boom, boom.
24:51
SPEAKER_03: Hey, for real.
24:52
SPEAKER_03: And then they're getting traded, they're getting signed, they're getting, and you're just going with them.
24:57
SPEAKER_03: You're going with them wherever they go, they're making it.
24:59
unknown: Wow.
25:00
SPEAKER_03: Or or they're okay, go get go with them.
25:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:02
SPEAKER_03: But I've also been flown out too.
25:04
SPEAKER_03: Like, hey, I know this is kind of last minute, so to kind of make it worth it, I'll fly you out here.
25:08
SPEAKER_03: I'll put you in the hotel.
25:09
SPEAKER_03: We'll do the shoes together, the cleats together.
25:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just no phone when I come.
25:12
SPEAKER_03: Like, that's another thing too.
25:14
SPEAKER_03: I've been across a couple, I can't even say their names.
25:17
SPEAKER_03: I came across a couple players that couldn't let me have my phone out like at all.
25:22
SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, just it was just confidentiality or whatever.
25:25
SPEAKER_03: 100%, 100%.
25:26
SPEAKER_03: Some players ain't even supposed to be out, they're supposed to be like, yeah, resting, or there's you know, there's uh what's restriction, or you know, when there's a curfew or whatever the case may be.
25:36
SPEAKER_03: Grown men, but they still got time.
25:38
SPEAKER_03: Well, they still got a job, bro.
25:40
SPEAKER_03: But they're gonna keep it on the hush.
25:41
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, for sure, man.
25:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, let no man tell me what to do.
25:45
SPEAKER_05: This reminds me of like uh how important word of mouth still is, like it's not dead, even though we have got social media and stuff like that.
25:52
SPEAKER_05: Word of mouth is huge, right?
25:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean it would you say it's sp especially for your line of work?
25:58
SPEAKER_03: Yes, and I'll tell you why right now, 100%.
26:00
SPEAKER_03: This is the biggest fact.
26:01
SPEAKER_03: I've never paid for any type of promotion.
26:04
SPEAKER_03: Never, I've never paid for a Facebook ad, Instagram ad.
26:07
SPEAKER_03: And I want to so badly, so badly.
26:10
SPEAKER_03: Why?
26:10
SPEAKER_03: I feel like it would just reach audiences that I don't even care to have to try to dig in to add as a friend or to like go and do my homework to say, let me put it in their face when I could just pay a little money to do it.
26:21
SPEAKER_03: People pay money to have strangers.
26:23
SPEAKER_03: Wow, people pay money for strangers to come clean up their house.
26:26
SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't want nobody in my draw, uh uh you know what I'm saying?
26:30
SPEAKER_03: I would yeah, nah, nah, bro.
26:31
SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't want nobody roaming through my stuff, but people do it because they're like, nah, I'll just pay$40,$50 to have somebody.
26:37
SPEAKER_05: Thinking it's gonna turn money, turn the money back around.
26:39
SPEAKER_03: Or I mean it's just easier for them to do it like that, you know.
26:42
SPEAKER_03: So I say, you know what, I would like to do it, but then I also want to see how far I could go by myself.
26:47
SPEAKER_03: Organically, I say that organically.
26:49
SPEAKER_03: Of course, support.
26:50
SPEAKER_03: You know, I got support system.
26:51
SPEAKER_03: They wouldn't, they don't gotta be here.
26:53
SPEAKER_03: This dude came from a whole nother town to come over here and just be here with me, here and the other show I gotta do tonight.
26:58
SPEAKER_05: Put a camera on it, Mike.
27:00
SPEAKER_03: For real, bro.
27:01
SPEAKER_03: Like, and and you know, he you know, that's support, bro.
27:04
SPEAKER_03: But you know what?
27:04
SPEAKER_03: Uh Freaks, another person too.
27:06
SPEAKER_03: You know, when I first met Freak and he started doing the stuff that he's been freaks also, well, these two and definitely, but Freaks also like one of the main ones that does a lot of the giving back to the community and doesn't ask for anything in return.
27:18
SPEAKER_03: He just asks for people to come together to make it happen because organically, if you don't need to come out of pocket and people could come with all the resources that they got, right?
27:27
SPEAKER_03: You could make something really shake.
27:28
SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
27:29
SPEAKER_03: And he did that and with the help of the his team that he had together.
27:32
SPEAKER_03: I don't know who was the leader or what, but when they did the We On Fire, the basketball charity basketball game for the school supplies, haircuts.
27:40
SPEAKER_03: I mean, dude, like they did it.
27:43
SPEAKER_03: Well, they kept me in the loop.
27:45
SPEAKER_03: They were like, look, we know you don't live here, but you want to do the anthem.
27:48
SPEAKER_03: Cool.
27:48
SPEAKER_03: And so three years in a row wasn't two or three, three, right?
27:51
SPEAKER_03: Three years in a row, I did an anthem because they kept me in the loop, and that was the way I could give back.
27:55
SPEAKER_03: I was like, I don't live there, right?
27:56
SPEAKER_03: There's no way I could be a part of the game and be there.
27:59
SPEAKER_03: How can I help?
28:00
SPEAKER_03: Well, you can create a song.
28:01
SPEAKER_03: It's done.
28:01
SPEAKER_03: Say less.
28:02
SPEAKER_03: What do we need?
28:03
SPEAKER_03: Well, give me the info.
28:04
SPEAKER_03: Where's it at?
28:04
SPEAKER_03: What time?
28:05
SPEAKER_03: And I incorporate all that.
28:06
SPEAKER_03: And that was another thing that got me jumping with the cleats too.
28:10
SPEAKER_03: And in the sports world, is because I was creating custom anthems for like baseball teams, football teams.
28:15
SPEAKER_03: Did you do Miller?
28:16
SPEAKER_03: I did Miller.
28:16
SPEAKER_03: I did uh still play it?
28:18
SPEAKER_03: I remember you playing the still.
28:19
SPEAKER_03: I mean, dude, you know, people call me during football season.
28:21
SPEAKER_03: They're like, hey bro, they're playing, they're playing their song right now here at Buck Stadium.
28:24
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, bro, that song's like five years old, uh.
28:27
SPEAKER_03: That was when Andrew Body was a baby over there killing him, you know, and and you know, it just yeah, it's it's cool, man, that I get to I just I it it's like a little staple.
28:38
SPEAKER_03: I I I have a little piece of corpus that I feel like people think of me, you know, when it comes to something.
28:45
SPEAKER_03: Just something that small.
28:47
SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, like hey, uh somebody's rapping for uh this little league team, and they're like, hey, John, is that a custom song?
28:53
SPEAKER_03: Who did that?
28:54
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I forgot name it.
28:55
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, we thought so because that's what he does.
28:56
SPEAKER_03: You know, he's the only one that does that out here.
28:58
SPEAKER_03: So I mean it's cool.
28:59
SPEAKER_05: You still do it?
29:00
SPEAKER_05: You still do the anthems or I still do.
29:02
SPEAKER_05: Still do it, bro.
29:03
SPEAKER_03: Where's the camera?
29:04
SPEAKER_03: Put the camera on.
29:05
SPEAKER_03: Right there.
29:06
SPEAKER_03: Right there.
29:06
SPEAKER_01: Oh here.
29:07
SPEAKER_03: I still do like that.
29:11
SPEAKER_03: And I take all challenges too.
29:13
SPEAKER_03: No, no, I'm not I'm messing around.
29:16
SPEAKER_03: Y'all know that.
29:16
SPEAKER_03: I just I have fun, bro.
29:17
SPEAKER_03: But I've always I've always been one to to just hey man.
29:21
SPEAKER_04: None sound like the other three that you made for us, none sound like the other.
29:27
SPEAKER_03: I I don't like to.
29:29
SPEAKER_03: I don't like recycled versus.
29:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there's a lot of recycling, there's a lot of recyclers out there.
29:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's I mean it's it's it's more better to create something that comes from nothing that's your own.
29:40
SPEAKER_03: And the proof of that is when they give me the the when they give me the information, like, hey, it's at this gym at this on this day, at this time, the team captains, nice, the team colors, what what we're giving away, right?
29:56
SPEAKER_03: School supplies, haircut, free food, how much at the door, all that is incorporated, bro, in a in a hot, I don't even gotta drop 16, but in a hot 12.
30:06
SPEAKER_03: I mean a hot 12.
30:09
SPEAKER_03: A hot 12 with a fire hook, and that's gonna match the whole concept.
30:13
SPEAKER_03: And I just always have fun.
30:14
SPEAKER_05: So you write the music yourself?
30:15
SPEAKER_03: Oh, a hundred.
30:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, that too.
30:20
SPEAKER_03: That's it.
30:20
SPEAKER_03: I mean, see, and that's another thing.
30:22
SPEAKER_03: I still do beats, I still, I still have my studio set up at my house.
30:26
SPEAKER_03: The thing is, is nobody has ever reached out.
30:29
SPEAKER_03: Put the camera, my man, put the camera on.
30:31
SPEAKER_03: Nobody has ever reached out to me for the but freaking them.
30:36
SPEAKER_03: So that those are the only people that know, you know.
30:38
SPEAKER_03: I don't, I don't, and I don't, I don't, I don't promote it, I don't publicize it.
30:41
SPEAKER_03: Like, hey, you know, for your beats and all that, because again, I have a passion for it.
30:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it just didn't add up for me, bro.
30:48
SPEAKER_03: When I can do this and I'm just like, oh bro, it's it's art.
30:52
SPEAKER_03: I could do this till I'm old.
30:54
SPEAKER_03: I don't need to be on stage trying to look good with Botox and all that, trying to stay young.
30:59
SPEAKER_03: I could be an old dude living in the mountains with my wild animals.
31:03
SPEAKER_05: Man, what's that like, bro?
31:04
SPEAKER_05: Living in the mountains, man, that'd be awesome, dude.
31:06
SPEAKER_03: You see my face every time you say that, I just miss it because I come on.
31:10
SPEAKER_03: I'll get on a flight right now to go back.
31:13
SPEAKER_03: Uh I love it, man.
31:14
SPEAKER_05: Right now it's dry, not moist like down here.
31:16
SPEAKER_05: Oh, bro, it's beautiful.
31:17
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
31:17
SPEAKER_03: Hey, you you remember when what's his name?
31:19
SPEAKER_03: Day Day said you could taste the air.
31:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like, bro, I promise you, it's like that out there, bro.
31:25
SPEAKER_03: You just went it's it's amazing, bro.
31:28
SPEAKER_03: The trees you get all four seasons, you know, when it's supposed to happen.
31:32
SPEAKER_03: You know when autumn comes because all the leaves, they're red, purple, yellow, green.
31:37
SPEAKER_03: I mean, beautiful.
31:38
SPEAKER_03: Then when they start falling, you know that time's coming.
31:41
SPEAKER_03: Then when it snows, bro, it snows.
31:44
SPEAKER_03: And I love it.
31:45
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we got that bay window.
31:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
31:48
SPEAKER_03: We'll just sit back, put a fire on, just chill.
31:50
SPEAKER_05: It's just man, I bet you that's smooth.
31:53
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
31:53
SPEAKER_05: Talking about so we're talking, yeah, dude.
31:55
SPEAKER_05: Awesome.
31:55
SPEAKER_05: So back to the sneaker industry, the sneaker market has become a billion-dollar industry.
32:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, did you envision Ben Stang Customs tapping into that, or was it just about supporting Anias at first?
32:05
SPEAKER_03: Just supporting Anias.
32:07
SPEAKER_03: Um, and I still think that that is the whole thing, man.
32:10
SPEAKER_03: Uh, if I have to be honest about it all, if he I mean, it wouldn't make me stop, but it would really take a big piece of the passion away.
32:21
SPEAKER_03: If he just let's say just that when the day comes that he stops playing football, right?
32:26
SPEAKER_03: It's gonna be like, you know, you took that whole journey because of him and the start of that when you got with him, uh getting his custom clean.
32:35
SPEAKER_05: Hold on, hold on.
32:35
SPEAKER_05: How did it feel when your your wife and maestro uh put up the money for your that was another thing, man.
32:42
SPEAKER_03: COVID, right?
32:43
SPEAKER_03: I had just lost my job.
32:45
SPEAKER_03: You know, they had just said, hey man, we gotta send you back to Corpus.
32:47
SPEAKER_03: She was like, you could stay, excuse.
32:49
SPEAKER_03: She was like, you could stay here.
32:51
SPEAKER_03: You know, we'll figure it out.
32:52
SPEAKER_03: Stay here, you know.
32:53
SPEAKER_03: And then talking to Maestro, grateful for FaceTime and being uh being able to stay in touch with my brothers.
32:59
SPEAKER_03: He was he would like coach me through the whole thing, like, look, man, I'll get what you need.
33:04
SPEAKER_03: How much is it?
33:05
SPEAKER_03: So we looked and we did our homework and it was right around like 900 bucks.
33:09
SPEAKER_05: Were you said were you selling it to him?
33:10
SPEAKER_05: Like hey uh no, I wasn't pitching it.
33:12
SPEAKER_05: No, not really.
33:13
SPEAKER_03: I wasn't pitching it to him.
33:14
SPEAKER_03: I was just kind of telling him like he just had he's kind of believed in you, thought you could I I kind of told him like we we got it, like to where we can use it anytime we need it.
33:22
SPEAKER_03: Like, like anytime he needs something, you got me now.
33:25
SPEAKER_03: We could just do it, you know.
33:27
SPEAKER_03: Then what the kind of the next conversation we had was when you get it, how long do you think you need before you're ready to do a pair?
33:35
SPEAKER_03: Because we don't got that much time.
33:37
SPEAKER_03: Now, mind you, remember, all this was in con okay.
33:39
SPEAKER_03: So, whenever you know you're going to a bowl game, when you win and you know you're going to a bowl game, you find out who you're playing and when it is, nine times out of ten, it's like a week or two away from when you find out in college.
33:50
SPEAKER_03: Wow, right?
33:51
SPEAKER_03: When we found out was when we just started having the conversation.
33:54
SPEAKER_03: So I had to buy the equipment first.
33:57
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
33:58
SPEAKER_03: Then I had to practice on the poster board.
34:01
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't long.
34:02
SPEAKER_03: I say, and I'm gonna be honest again.
34:03
SPEAKER_03: This is not trying to sound any kind of way.
34:05
SPEAKER_03: I think it was like two days.
34:06
SPEAKER_03: Two days of really digging in, not getting no sleep, being up all hours of the night.
34:10
SPEAKER_03: I'm talking about, bro, my eyes were lit.
34:12
SPEAKER_03: Like I was just zoned in.
34:14
SPEAKER_03: And uh I told my stroke, yeah, I think we're ready, bro.
34:17
SPEAKER_03: And he was like, Are you sure?
34:18
SPEAKER_03: Because you can't just do them on a you can't go back once you start.
34:23
SPEAKER_03: You gotta know what you're doing.
34:24
SPEAKER_03: And my very first pair, I mean, bro, they I I still don't know how he wanted to wear them.
34:31
SPEAKER_03: Could to look at how they look now in my eyes.
34:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm like, bro, that work was I would have never gave up.
34:38
SPEAKER_03: Of course, now you look great, but I guess that's what everybody, right?
34:42
SPEAKER_03: Like music, art.
34:44
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure when Mo started skateboarding, you know, first he was like, Man, I'll never do that again.
34:49
SPEAKER_03: Now he's got it all not, you know.
34:51
SPEAKER_03: I got it locked down now.
34:52
SPEAKER_05: He definitely showed love by wearing them and using them, you know what I mean.
34:55
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think I saw a promo or something he just had on his he's still using them.
35:00
SPEAKER_03: Bro, you know that that's one thing about the kid, man.
35:03
SPEAKER_03: He's he's a he's a he's a child of God.
35:06
SPEAKER_03: My brother raised him right.
35:08
SPEAKER_03: You know, we all raised the kids right, man.
35:11
SPEAKER_03: And if anything, that's the one way he could say, you know what, Unc, I could put you on.
35:16
SPEAKER_03: Give me a size, this, this, whatever, this, this, this.
35:18
SPEAKER_03: And then we had the sub-zero cleats drop.
35:20
SPEAKER_03: When the sub-zero cleats drop, those made a lot of noise, bro.
35:25
SPEAKER_03: I had people hitting me up left and right, and then I made them some gold Mario Kart cleats and the same thing, you know.
35:32
SPEAKER_03: And then I made him some huge.
35:33
SPEAKER_03: Them Joker ones are fire, dude.
35:34
SPEAKER_03: The Joker Matrix ones, yes, bro.
35:36
SPEAKER_03: Those were nice.
35:37
SPEAKER_03: Like, I mean, those weren't for him, but just the fact that I was able to start getting into that creativity.
35:43
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I'm just like, I'm grateful for the ride, man.
35:47
SPEAKER_05: Can you walk us through the process?
35:48
SPEAKER_05: Uh, say, like creating a corpus-inspired cleats, like with a Selena theme or something.
35:53
SPEAKER_05: How do you manage that in a market focused on new designs?
35:57
SPEAKER_03: Um, staying original.
35:59
SPEAKER_03: And you know, no pun intended, right?
36:02
SPEAKER_03: Right.
36:02
SPEAKER_03: But uh, you know, I I think staying original, um, it people are gonna support what they want.
36:09
SPEAKER_03: And and and let's just talk about that.
36:11
SPEAKER_03: That goes into what you're saying with my business because I would have never thought that people from way on the other side of the of the nation or the world will want anything from me, but people like what they like.
36:23
SPEAKER_03: You know, I get a lot of calls and they say, hey, bro, people just don't answer my calls.
36:28
SPEAKER_03: Like, I'll reach out to some some customizers.
36:31
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, well, who you reaching out to?
36:32
SPEAKER_03: And they'll tell me, I'm like, bro, you're reaching out to like the dude.
36:37
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
36:37
SPEAKER_03: And don't get me wrong, that's cool.
36:39
SPEAKER_03: Right, right, right.
36:39
SPEAKER_03: These dudes got like two, three-year waiting lists, bro.
36:42
SPEAKER_06: Whoa, wow.
36:43
SPEAKER_03: Paid for in advance.
36:45
SPEAKER_03: Put the camera paid for in advance, and that's why I say, you know, that there's a lot of yeah, if they want it, they're gonna buy it regardless, bro.
36:56
SPEAKER_03: Like there's just same thing goes for sports.
36:59
SPEAKER_03: You know, these kids now, they got four or five, six hundred dollar baseball bats, bro.
37:04
SPEAKER_03: Expensive bats, bro.
37:06
SPEAKER_03: Like, or whatever football helmets, four hundred dollar football helmets, right?
37:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but you know what comes with it.
37:12
SPEAKER_03: You know you're dropping money, but you know there it's the safety, it's the newest ones, it's gonna, you know, whatever, right?
37:19
SPEAKER_03: They're getting bigger, they need a bigger size helmet.
37:21
SPEAKER_03: It's the same thing with these cleats, man.
37:23
SPEAKER_03: When they hit me up, they know what they want, and they they get it done.
37:27
SPEAKER_03: And you know, I'm grateful for the opportunity because I have referred to other people.
37:31
SPEAKER_03: I've had people say that's a little that's a little too high for me.
37:34
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, that's that's cool.
37:36
SPEAKER_03: I did hear that there's somebody in this area.
37:39
SPEAKER_03: I don't know too much information, but seriously, there's somebody here that does great work.
37:43
SPEAKER_03: I don't know him or her.
37:45
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if it's a guy or a girl, I don't even know the name, but um, they do custom custom cleats, and I've seen other people have cleats that I didn't do, so they gotta get it from somewhere.
37:54
SPEAKER_05: So competition so competition was slowly getting tough.
37:57
SPEAKER_05: There's more competition, uh major brands.
38:00
SPEAKER_05: What sets Ben Stanging customs apart?
38:04
SPEAKER_03: Um, just being able to create, like from scratch.
38:07
SPEAKER_03: I can do whatever somebody wants me to do how they want me to do it.
38:12
SPEAKER_03: And that's that's basically what that that's what that's what you're paying for.
38:16
SPEAKER_03: Like you're you're you're the service, you know, like you know, being able to take this and a bit of this and a bit of this.
38:21
SPEAKER_03: And can you put it all together for me?
38:23
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
38:23
SPEAKER_03: I can.
38:24
SPEAKER_03: Yes, sir, I can.
38:25
SPEAKER_03: Yes, ma'am, I can.
38:26
SPEAKER_03: You know, I don't want to be the biggest name.
38:28
SPEAKER_03: I just want to be um a steady name.
38:31
SPEAKER_03: I want to be a staple.
38:33
SPEAKER_03: I want to be where people could just come, even if it's just my returners and I don't get any more new clients, bro.
38:37
SPEAKER_03: I'm grateful because they keep me more than afloat.
38:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
38:42
SPEAKER_05: Like what's going on, Mama?
38:43
SPEAKER_05: Thanks for joining the chat.
38:44
SPEAKER_05: My daughter usually makes sure that she chimes in.
38:47
SPEAKER_05: Uh hey, uh oh, so real quick, talking about prices and stuff like that.
38:51
SPEAKER_05: I want you to drop some drop this tip about um not taking payment up front.
38:58
SPEAKER_05: And how do you learn that lesson?
38:59
SPEAKER_05: And why did you decide to do what you did, and how has it worked for your business?
39:04
SPEAKER_03: So it happened like four years ago, and this is a story I'll never forget.
39:09
SPEAKER_03: I was so excited about doing these cleats.
39:11
SPEAKER_03: I was barely getting my feet wet, getting the ball rolling, and I had a client say, Hey, want to get a pair of cleats?
39:17
SPEAKER_03: How much?
39:18
SPEAKER_03: Excuse me.
39:19
SPEAKER_03: At the time, I wasn't charging nowhere near what I'm charging now.
39:22
SPEAKER_03: Nowhere near.
39:23
SPEAKER_03: So let's just put that out there.
39:24
SPEAKER_06: Right.
39:25
SPEAKER_03: What I was charging right at the time.
39:28
SPEAKER_03: Okay, they agreed to it.
39:29
SPEAKER_03: Cool.
39:30
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so this is how much it is.
39:32
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so do we put half down?
39:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you put half down, and when I'm done, you can pay the other half.
39:38
SPEAKER_03: So I I grabbed that money.
39:40
SPEAKER_03: Now, mind you, at the time, I didn't have the cleat supplies like I got now, or the resources that I got now.
39:47
SPEAKER_03: So I went out right to a store and purchased those cleats with the deposit.
39:51
SPEAKER_06: Right.
39:51
SPEAKER_03: So I already lost money out of that to get those cleats.
39:55
SPEAKER_03: Then I did the cleats.
39:56
SPEAKER_03: And then when I was done, the client said, Well, discussing it with my husband, we feel like that's a little too high.
40:03
SPEAKER_03: So we can offer you this.
40:06
SPEAKER_03: And I said, Well, I mean, at that point, I kind of don't have a choice.
40:10
SPEAKER_03: That's gonna cover the cleats, and I break even.
40:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like like I literally did artwork to showcase for you to be a bulletin board, right?
40:18
SPEAKER_03: But that wasn't the kicker.
40:20
SPEAKER_03: The kicker to me was well, we think that that's a little high.
40:24
SPEAKER_03: And I said, Okay, so what I can do is I could just throw them away and I can give you your deposit back.
40:29
SPEAKER_03: Well, why would you do that?
40:30
SPEAKER_03: They already got my son's name and his number.
40:32
SPEAKER_03: So you want the cleats, you want them, but you don't want to pay me for them.
40:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and mind you, you know, it's because they look at it like this.
40:44
SPEAKER_03: There's no website, you're talking to them direct so you can negotiate.
40:47
SPEAKER_03: Because when you get on Amazon or whatever website you're gonna order something from, you can't negotiate.
40:52
SPEAKER_03: You get you gotta pay for it.
40:54
SPEAKER_03: Or you can't go to the grocery store and say, Hey, I'm gonna pay you half.
40:56
SPEAKER_03: And when I make sure that they fit in the fridge.
40:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I have a I mean I have a feeling that kids, buddy.
41:02
SPEAKER_05: I have a feeling people that I have a feeling that people know, especially if you're a new business, they know.
41:08
SPEAKER_05: Oh, this guy, he needs money.
41:09
SPEAKER_05: He's just a new business, he's little out there, you know, and it sucks, and it sucks that people do that to you.
41:16
SPEAKER_05: A business is just starting out, and then of course we grow up in a community where we're like, gotta help the dude out, you know.
41:21
SPEAKER_05: Right.
41:22
SPEAKER_05: But it's not always like that, it's not always fun.
41:24
SPEAKER_05: I guess I guess the reason why I'm bringing this up is because there's business owners that start and stuff like this happens at the onset, and sometimes they get discouraged, you know what I mean?
41:32
SPEAKER_05: And sometimes they run with it like you did.
41:34
SPEAKER_05: Obviously, you just went past it.
41:35
SPEAKER_05: You decided to change it, which is take the money up front, which is that's that's if you decide to do that, that's fine.
41:41
SPEAKER_05: And then, too, the people sometimes people are like, Oh, he's I thought he was family or he was this or he was that, you know what I mean?
41:48
SPEAKER_03: I I I used to get that a lot.
41:49
SPEAKER_03: I don't get that anymore.
41:50
SPEAKER_05: You get it, you'll get it, especially if you have a business, you know.
41:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like but it's like you you want them to understand, but they don't want to understand.
41:57
SPEAKER_03: I talk to people more that I don't know than people that I do.
42:00
SPEAKER_03: I I my phone constantly rings, but it's people that don't know me, and they're you ever heard the saying?
42:05
SPEAKER_03: I don't know, y'all probably heard this recently, but you'll get more support from a stranger than you will from a friend or family.
42:10
SPEAKER_03: That's real, that's real, and I see that because people don't need to know you to say to give you an actual compliment, right?
42:18
SPEAKER_03: There's no jealousy, or you're looking at it with a jealous heart, right?
42:21
SPEAKER_03: But if somebody that just meets you, oh my god, you do amazing work, bro.
42:24
SPEAKER_03: Like, I didn't bro, and they make it seem like there's not anybody who's better than I mean they make it seem like you're better than everybody.
42:30
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, bro, you make it seem like there's not a dude I could pull up on my phone right now that makes me look like nothing.
42:36
SPEAKER_03: But people like what they like.
42:38
SPEAKER_03: It's also not just the work, it's a vibe, bro.
42:41
SPEAKER_03: These people, they they they're attract, they there's an attraction there, you know what I'm saying?
42:45
SPEAKER_03: You get drawn into people that you could relate to.
42:47
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I could talk to that dude, I could chill with, I could drink a beer with that dude.
42:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we could talk about whatever.
42:52
SPEAKER_05: Well, see the the thing too I noticed about our about like growing up around in in Corpus is like we grow up with people that are like hard on us to where when you leave and go somewhere else and they give you those compliments, you're like, What?
43:04
SPEAKER_05: I ain't never heard that before.
43:05
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
43:06
SPEAKER_05: It's it's just uh you get out of your environment to see how valuable you really are.
43:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
43:12
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean.
43:13
SPEAKER_05: Uh so I guess we're moving up, moving forward to uh your uh let's see, let me see me if I can read this script.
43:19
SPEAKER_05: Uh you're making a mark this part.
43:21
SPEAKER_03: I feel like I've been on peas.
43:23
SPEAKER_03: P's and kids, you just cussed.
43:24
SPEAKER_03: Well, you let it out.
43:25
SPEAKER_03: Did I?
43:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you did.
43:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's fucking sick, man.
43:29
SPEAKER_06: I didn't catch up.
43:31
SPEAKER_01: I've been bottoming my tongue over here.
43:33
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't I don't really like want to talk like that.
43:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying it with yeah, I didn't say I didn't mean to say it if it sounded like that.
43:41
SPEAKER_05: I want to be able to say it like that.
43:43
SPEAKER_05: I feel like I could.
43:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's okay.
43:44
SPEAKER_05: So we're talking about we're talking about I don't know why people get that bottom with me, bro.
43:48
SPEAKER_05: Like, I just don't care.
43:50
SPEAKER_05: Like, people think like, oh, he's not supposed to cuss around.
43:52
SPEAKER_05: I don't care, bro.
43:53
SPEAKER_05: I got I got the E warning on my podcast.
43:55
SPEAKER_05: Whenever you go look at it, so if people cuss, they cuss.
43:58
SPEAKER_03: Hey, so look before you dive into The next thing.
44:01
SPEAKER_03: Can I ask you?
44:01
SPEAKER_03: Can I flip the script?
44:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, sure.
44:02
SPEAKER_03: I I I I this is the first time us meeting, right?
44:06
SPEAKER_03: And I'm a big supporter of the show.
44:07
SPEAKER_03: But like you have you grew up here?
44:09
SPEAKER_03: Did you go to school here?
44:11
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so how so how how if you don't mind me asking?
44:13
SPEAKER_03: How are you?
44:14
SPEAKER_03: What's that?
44:15
SPEAKER_03: How old are you?
44:16
SPEAKER_03: 43.
44:17
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so you graduated what 82?
44:20
SPEAKER_05: Uh uh oh two.
44:21
SPEAKER_03: I mean, 82.
44:23
SPEAKER_03: Well, I was doing I was born 82.
44:24
SPEAKER_03: Born in 82, yeah.
44:25
SPEAKER_03: That's what I meant to say.
44:26
SPEAKER_03: But I was thinking, bro, y'all gotta remember, I said all night last night.
44:31
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna be up tonight.
44:32
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, okay, so you were born in 82.
44:34
SPEAKER_03: Okay, gotcha.
44:34
SPEAKER_03: What school did you go to?
44:35
SPEAKER_05: I went to Ray.
44:37
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
44:37
SPEAKER_05: Three years dropped out back to Miller, graduated in Miller.
44:42
SPEAKER_05: Yes, sir.
44:43
SPEAKER_05: Dude, I got a crazy story, bro.
44:45
SPEAKER_05: Crazy story.
44:46
SPEAKER_05: Uh I shared some of it on the Ride and High podcast with those guys over there, so you can check that out.
44:51
SPEAKER_05: But yeah, man, why do you ask?
44:53
SPEAKER_03: Um, just because you I feel like you know, you want to say you've seen somebody from back in the day, and we're about the same age, you know, like where you maybe hung out or who you used to and Ray.
45:04
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I knew a lot of athletes, but um, if it was older than me, it was probably movies.
45:09
SPEAKER_05: Well, see, I get that a lot too around the city.
45:11
SPEAKER_05: Oh, you look like this guy, or you remind me of the I mean that's I I'm just curious.
45:15
SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, uh what's your last name?
45:17
SPEAKER_03: Hernandez Hernandez, yeah.
45:19
SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah, there's a lot of Hernandez.
45:21
SPEAKER_05: I shout out to Maya back there, another Hernandez.
45:23
SPEAKER_05: Yes, sir, yes.
45:26
SPEAKER_05: Nah, he's my brother.
45:26
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yes, your brother.
45:29
SPEAKER_02: What like here, man?
45:31
SPEAKER_05: He's not like hey, how many years apart, my what like 10 or something?
45:35
SPEAKER_05: How old are you?
45:36
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, about 20 years.
45:38
SPEAKER_05: When did you say almost 10 years?
45:39
SPEAKER_03: Like that.
45:39
SPEAKER_03: I was like, oh shit, you got a lot to go, boy.
45:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, man.
45:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I grew up here.
45:46
SPEAKER_05: I mean, I like what where the show is going.
45:49
SPEAKER_05: I obviously I've slowed down a little bit, but I try to keep it at least doing once a month.
45:53
SPEAKER_03: Hey, um, I just want to give a couple shout outs to some people watching.
45:56
SPEAKER_03: Hey, bro, there's a lot of people tuned in.
45:57
SPEAKER_03: I don't know how many people tuned in on YouTube, but on there's a lot on here.
46:00
SPEAKER_03: So shout out to everybody.
46:01
SPEAKER_03: All right, let me shout them out.
46:03
SPEAKER_03: Nook Nook, what up, yo?
46:04
SPEAKER_03: Uh Joe, what up, man?
46:06
SPEAKER_03: Yep, you already know.
46:07
SPEAKER_03: Like a jalapeno boy, stupid.
46:09
SPEAKER_03: Uh Cam Nephew, what up?
46:11
SPEAKER_03: Nathan, what's up?
46:12
SPEAKER_03: All the way of Virginia.
46:13
SPEAKER_03: Yes, sir.
46:13
SPEAKER_03: That's one of my clients.
46:14
SPEAKER_03: He just copped some prime cleats for me, too.
46:16
SPEAKER_03: Raymond coped uh tapped in.
46:19
SPEAKER_03: My boy Johnny Luna tapped in.
46:21
SPEAKER_03: I'm doing some Louis Vuitton cleats for him right now.
46:24
SPEAKER_03: My brother Snake, Steve tapped in.
46:27
SPEAKER_03: I just went and saw Steve earlier at Bubbles.
46:29
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
46:30
SPEAKER_03: No, it was oh yeah.
46:31
SPEAKER_03: I just went and saw Steve at Bubbles, linked up, doing some cleats for him tonight.
46:35
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, man, just staying busy, bro.
46:37
SPEAKER_03: Uh my brother Kree, shout out to Kree, BG, most hated family.
46:41
SPEAKER_03: Yes, sir.
46:42
SPEAKER_03: Lupe, what's up, man?
46:44
SPEAKER_03: C Web, everybody tapped in, of course.
46:47
SPEAKER_03: Freak here with me.
46:48
SPEAKER_03: Snake, what's up, man?
46:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Gino.
46:51
SPEAKER_03: What up, man?
46:52
SPEAKER_03: Uh Taurus, yes, I can.
46:54
SPEAKER_03: I could do regular sneakers.
46:55
SPEAKER_03: Thank you for asking.
46:56
SPEAKER_03: My boy Mario, my brother, you already know what's up.
46:59
SPEAKER_03: Marcus tapped in.
47:00
SPEAKER_03: Yes, sir.
47:01
SPEAKER_03: Freddie G, homie.
47:03
SPEAKER_03: What it do?
47:03
SPEAKER_03: If they're worried about prices, they don't need to be shopping.
47:05
SPEAKER_03: Keep rising.
47:06
SPEAKER_03: G.
47:06
SPEAKER_03: I like that.
47:06
SPEAKER_03: Alright.
47:07
SPEAKER_03: I didn't say you did, but I love it.
47:09
SPEAKER_03: Uh, yeah.
47:10
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
47:11
SPEAKER_03: So my brother Snake says, shout out, man.
47:12
SPEAKER_03: He said he comes from a good fam.
47:14
SPEAKER_03: Boyo played ball with him and his brother.
47:16
SPEAKER_03: Oh, really?
47:16
SPEAKER_03: My brother Snake, Steven Aguilar.
47:18
SPEAKER_05: Oh, Snake, what's up, dude?
47:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, bro.
47:19
SPEAKER_03: That's my brother, man.
47:20
SPEAKER_03: Hey, bro.
47:21
SPEAKER_03: I'm ready for dinner, dog.
47:22
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Snake.
47:23
SPEAKER_05: Uh Bo, uh, I can't remember the other brother's name.
47:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
47:25
SPEAKER_03: I just saw Boyo earlier, too.
47:26
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, dude.
47:27
SPEAKER_03: You know, I tap in real quick and I just make a round.
47:29
SPEAKER_03: I gotta make a round real quick, tap in with you know, certain people.
47:32
SPEAKER_05: Alrighty, bro.
47:33
SPEAKER_05: And I grew up playing sports here, like baseball, football.
47:35
SPEAKER_05: We played.
47:36
SPEAKER_03: I'm telling you, bro, I've seen you, bro.
47:38
SPEAKER_03: Maybe because me and Boyo, me and Boyo used to, like I said, we were dancers back in the day, but I don't like we used to like compete.
47:44
SPEAKER_03: He had a little click from Ray.
47:46
SPEAKER_03: You know, they they would like go to like the teen dances, skating ring, suite 16s.
47:50
SPEAKER_03: All right.
47:51
SPEAKER_03: And I had my click for Moody.
47:52
SPEAKER_03: And I'm gonna say it, we get on their ass every time.
47:56
SPEAKER_03: Uh no, yeah, we I'm sure I ran into you somewhere, bro.
48:00
SPEAKER_03: But I'm saying you have a familiar face, bro.
48:02
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and when I found out you were doing this, I was like, dude, kid, parents of the kids from I mean, everybody plays sports around here, bro.
48:08
SPEAKER_05: They're gonna love this stuff.
48:10
SPEAKER_05: And if they have somebody around here that makes that type of stuff, like they're gonna want, they're gonna want it for their kids because they're proud of their kids.
48:16
SPEAKER_05: They want to love that stuff.
48:18
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
48:18
SPEAKER_03: And uh, shout out to my brother, man, Oscar.
48:21
SPEAKER_03: He uh gave me the shirt.
48:22
SPEAKER_03: Keep them hating.
48:23
SPEAKER_03: This is Brandy's coming out with for the gym, you know, some gym clothes.
48:26
SPEAKER_03: And uh, I'm good at this right here.
48:28
SPEAKER_03: I'm very good at this.
48:30
SPEAKER_03: Keep hating.
48:31
SPEAKER_03: Hey, so he's like, Hey, I got some shirts for you, got a hat.
48:33
SPEAKER_03: But I had just I you know, I just put uh what's that that shit that you wax?
48:38
SPEAKER_03: Oh, the car wax, the turtle wax.
48:40
SPEAKER_03: So I wanted to show, I knew y'all had look, don't show the camera.
48:43
SPEAKER_03: I knew hey, I don't mind while I wear my age really well, you know what I'm saying?
48:47
SPEAKER_03: So I'm cool with it.
48:48
SPEAKER_03: I didn't want to cover it up with the hat, but I'm wearing the shirt, bro.
48:51
SPEAKER_03: Bro, so shout out to my brother.
48:52
SPEAKER_03: If y'all want anything, just look him up on Facebook, Oscar Rodriguez.
48:56
SPEAKER_03: He uh tagged me on the post, but yeah, keep him hating for the gym wear, dry fit, super dope, super chill.
49:01
SPEAKER_03: I love it.
49:02
SPEAKER_03: So I appreciate the dude.
49:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
49:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so yeah, appreciate you doing that.
49:06
SPEAKER_05: Not a lot of people do that, yeah.
49:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
49:08
SPEAKER_03: Amazing, man.
49:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
49:10
SPEAKER_03: I just uh I I I love uh Mono's got uh some skateboarding uh shirt or something that I'm gonna be like.
49:16
SPEAKER_03: See, my thing is I want people, and this isn't to get I don't want to be one of the people on Instagram that are like, oh yeah, if y'all want to send me something, I'll plug y'all, like you know, having company send them stuff.
49:27
SPEAKER_03: But if it's my boys that got something that's going on, or a client of mine that says organically, like, hey, I love your work.
49:34
SPEAKER_03: Hopefully, do you mind if I share something with you?
49:36
SPEAKER_03: Maybe you could try this out.
49:37
SPEAKER_03: I met somebody that does cakes, him and his wife, little, like personal little cakes.
49:43
SPEAKER_03: Oh, bro.
49:43
SPEAKER_03: I was like, he's like, Yeah, and then we got like we got like uh we we sell on our website like aprons to cook it.
49:49
SPEAKER_03: I said, bro, you got one with you?
49:51
SPEAKER_03: I'll pay you right now for one.
49:52
SPEAKER_03: He was like, No, we'll give it to you.
49:54
SPEAKER_03: Nah, I'll pay for it.
49:55
SPEAKER_03: But I cook at home, I'll throw it on when I'm like baking with my son.
49:58
SPEAKER_03: Me and my son be making our own pizzas and stuff.
50:01
SPEAKER_03: So, like he's got a shirt.
50:02
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna be wearing it in videos when I'm customizing.
50:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, where's that?
50:05
SPEAKER_03: He gave me a hat, bro.
50:06
SPEAKER_03: I was like, Yeah, bro, that's it's all about support, dog.
50:08
SPEAKER_03: Yep, and then and and any of my clients, this is a shout-out to all my clients watching here or on the podcast live.
50:14
SPEAKER_03: Like, if any of my clients got a brand or they got a team or whatever the case is, I don't have the biggest platform, but I would be happy to to to plug it.
50:24
SPEAKER_03: I would be happy to rock it while I do a pair of custom cleats if I happen to get paint on it or whatever.
50:30
SPEAKER_03: That's my line of work, so that's that's what's gonna happen, you know.
50:32
SPEAKER_03: Like stuff like that will happen.
50:33
SPEAKER_04: But you know, what the rocking the hands are no, yeah, we showed it earlier.
50:45
SPEAKER_04: We showed it earlier.
50:46
SPEAKER_05: No, for sure, bro.
50:48
SPEAKER_05: That's a good idea.
50:49
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, dude, especially around here, like we got I wear a hard hat every day.
50:53
SPEAKER_05: Hey, nah, but when I look, check it out, check it out.
50:55
SPEAKER_03: Hey, yeah, I took when look when I customized when I customized this for the first time, the the visor wasn't on it, but I took a picture like this.
51:03
SPEAKER_03: I took a picture like this, and I looked at the camera like that, and it was that because I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
51:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, bro.
51:12
SPEAKER_03: Hey, so I did it, but hey, I mean, this is just this it's a hard half of work, yeah.
51:18
SPEAKER_03: Construction, yeah.
51:19
SPEAKER_03: It looked inside, yeah.
51:20
SPEAKER_03: I took the gun.
51:21
SPEAKER_03: I thought it was a skateboard helmet, bro.
51:23
SPEAKER_03: Bro, that's what I told him to use it for.
51:25
SPEAKER_03: No shit.
51:26
SPEAKER_03: Hey, bro.
51:26
SPEAKER_03: I said, I got this motherfucker sitting.
51:28
SPEAKER_03: See, I felt good saying that.
51:30
SPEAKER_03: I got this motherfucker sitting at the house.
51:32
SPEAKER_03: I said, Mono, dog, you can use it to skate in, bro.
51:34
SPEAKER_03: He's like, nah, bro, I'm gonna wear that bitch at work, dog.
51:36
SPEAKER_03: From every I'm gonna flex on everybody.
51:38
SPEAKER_03: I said, Yeah, but you would look cool, like you know, or or okay.
51:42
SPEAKER_03: If you're gonna use this, go join a competition, so you have to wear it.
51:46
SPEAKER_05: Bro, you don't understand where this is at the at the oil field at the refineries, they you know, they pride themselves in wearing hats like that.
51:52
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, oh yeah, for sure, dude.
51:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean customize them, yeah.
51:56
SPEAKER_04: They do stickers, yeah.
51:57
SPEAKER_03: They do stickers, they give you white, they give you a white helmet, bro.
52:00
SPEAKER_03: And don't get me wrong, this yeah, yeah, yeah.
52:02
SPEAKER_03: People go and buy it from like the safety store, they have like the American flag one, like it's it's done at a factory though.
52:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this is like air, this is like, hey man, what do you want, bro?
52:11
SPEAKER_03: Hey man, can't and you know we want stuff that nobody else has, bro.
52:15
SPEAKER_03: It was, I mean, so he gave me the idea.
52:17
SPEAKER_03: He was like, Look, you're gonna do a hard hat for me.
52:19
SPEAKER_03: Cool, dog, but what are you gonna do?
52:21
SPEAKER_03: I was like, uh, since it's my idea, I'll surprise you.
52:23
SPEAKER_03: He's like, Bet, just just bet, just surprise me, bro.
52:27
SPEAKER_03: Please, yeah, and uh that's what I came up with.
52:30
SPEAKER_03: Kelly Green, the old school Eagle, the Philly skyline with the Rocky statue and the two Lombardies.
52:36
SPEAKER_03: And then I threw the Eagles in the front, like the helmet little decal, and then I threw the number one because you know Hurts is his guy, so I said, Yeah, yeah, it's going down.
52:44
SPEAKER_03: And uh yeah, yeah, it came out, it came out cool.
52:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I mean for who?
52:52
SPEAKER_03: For Jalen, yeah.
52:53
SPEAKER_03: Jalen Hurts, okay.
52:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I mean I which which one is it?
52:56
SPEAKER_03: The is it the Eagle?
52:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the one with the Eagle.
52:59
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I don't think we have I don't think I sent that to him.
53:01
SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's okay.
53:01
SPEAKER_03: We'll check it out.
53:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
53:03
SPEAKER_03: The the Gotham Phillies.
53:04
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I did them.
53:05
SPEAKER_03: Um and and to to put this out there, this is this is to be perfectly honest about everything.
53:12
SPEAKER_03: This was my idea.
53:13
SPEAKER_03: Okay, he it wasn't hit up by me by anybody to to say, hey, he needs a pair of customs done.
53:20
SPEAKER_03: This was me going through the source of my nephew because I met him with my nephew.
53:24
SPEAKER_05: Right.
53:24
SPEAKER_03: I met Jalen organically, where we weren't even supposed to meet, bro.
53:28
SPEAKER_03: Through a nice through a nice.
53:30
SPEAKER_03: I went out to Philadelphia to go see my nephew.
53:32
SPEAKER_03: I went to his apartment.
53:33
SPEAKER_03: My brother was there.
53:34
SPEAKER_03: I actually picked up my brother from the airport in Philly.
53:37
SPEAKER_03: So we I met up with him in Philly.
53:39
SPEAKER_03: We went to my nephew's.
53:41
SPEAKER_03: My nephew was at training all day, and when he got home, he said, Hey, uh, I I'm going to this one-on-one training, you know, but I need to go to the facility to go pick up a couple footballs.
53:51
SPEAKER_03: Now, mind you, though, their practice facility is right across the street from where they were housing my nephew.
53:57
SPEAKER_06: Oh wow.
53:57
SPEAKER_03: On the rookie contract, you know, they they'll ask you, you want to go get your own stuff?
54:01
SPEAKER_03: You're cool, but we could put you in something, and they put them in something dope.
54:05
SPEAKER_03: And it was walking distance from the Novicare facility.
54:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
54:10
SPEAKER_03: And uh he's like, Yeah, come on, let's go.
54:12
SPEAKER_03: So me and my brother get in the car with him.
54:14
SPEAKER_03: He's driving.
54:15
SPEAKER_03: We literally leave the neighborhood and cross the street to get into the complex.
54:18
SPEAKER_03: It's gated.
54:19
SPEAKER_03: You got to put a code, big old gate move.
54:21
SPEAKER_03: We pull in, and Jalen is right to the right of us cleaning his all-white AMG.
54:27
SPEAKER_03: He got a, I mean, this thing was nasty, bro.
54:31
SPEAKER_03: Like dropped, yeah, dirty, just pearl white, dirty AMG, bro.
54:38
SPEAKER_03: Brand new Mercedes dog.
54:40
SPEAKER_03: And he's wiping his rims, and he's got Big Dom with him.
54:43
SPEAKER_03: Big Dom is just standing there right there.
54:45
SPEAKER_03: He's like the head of security for the Eagles.
54:48
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, this dude's gonna follow your biggest athlete, you know, your most expensive athlete.
54:54
SPEAKER_03: You're gonna follow him to his house, make sure he's good and all that.
54:56
SPEAKER_03: But I tell my nephew, bro, is that no?
54:59
SPEAKER_03: And he's like, Yeah, that's Jalen.
55:01
SPEAKER_03: I was like, hey bro, you mind if I get my phone and maybe we take a picture?
55:04
SPEAKER_03: He's like, uh, get out the car.
55:06
SPEAKER_03: I'm about to introduce you.
55:08
SPEAKER_03: And that's what happened, bro.
55:09
SPEAKER_03: So I met him, told him, you know, he told him I'm the one that does Anias' cleats.
55:14
SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's dope, you know, whatever.
55:16
SPEAKER_03: I told him, first pairs on me, and as soon as I left, I was homework.
55:20
SPEAKER_03: I was straight to the lab, bro.
55:22
SPEAKER_03: So I did it in hopes and preparation, you know, that he was gonna rock him in the super or rock him anytime.
55:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there was a little detail that I missed, and there was a reason why I was off a half size by the size.
55:36
SPEAKER_03: So wow, but that stuff you learn in this business, and I still gotta thank you for the cleats.
55:43
SPEAKER_03: And I still got a package.
55:44
SPEAKER_03: He's actually sending me a package of his uh one of breed of one clothing line.
55:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, just kind of but next size my shoe, bro.
55:53
SPEAKER_03: Right, yeah, exactly, bro.
55:55
SPEAKER_03: But next season, though, this coming season, I'm I'm it's not even about that.
55:59
SPEAKER_03: Now my nephew could wear whatever he wants.
56:01
SPEAKER_03: It's cool.
56:01
SPEAKER_03: So now y'all gotta understand.
56:03
SPEAKER_05: Wait, wait, wait.
56:03
SPEAKER_05: Like the the brand of shoe you're talking about?
56:05
SPEAKER_03: No, not the brand that he could wear customs.
56:07
SPEAKER_03: My nephew couldn't wear any custom cleats this first year because of his contract or whatever his contract speculated, yeah.
56:12
SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah.
56:13
SPEAKER_03: So now we now he can be absolutely hundred percent is over with it.
56:17
SPEAKER_03: It's it's off the rail now.
56:19
SPEAKER_03: Every pair he's gonna now I can have a pair every game next season.
56:23
SPEAKER_03: Amazing, just on my nephew.
56:25
SPEAKER_03: So again, you you can't let something like that it did, does it suck, bro?
56:31
SPEAKER_03: Fuck yeah, it sucks when it you just don't see it happening.
56:34
SPEAKER_03: You're like, oh, it was so close, you know what I'm saying?
56:37
SPEAKER_03: But back to the drawing board.
56:38
SPEAKER_05: Why so?
56:39
SPEAKER_05: Because you know that that's an important part for your business to come on.
56:41
SPEAKER_03: I mean, bro, Jalen Hurts.
56:43
SPEAKER_03: I mean, if he did then Super Bowl, if he would have worn them, of course.
56:46
SPEAKER_03: But this is just to set the record straight.
56:48
SPEAKER_03: This wasn't see, because I had got asked by channel six to do a uh a segment on me, even when I was in Virginia.
56:56
SPEAKER_03: Channel six reached out to me.
56:57
SPEAKER_03: I have I have one of the reporters follow me on Instagram.
57:00
SPEAKER_03: We follow each other on Instagram.
57:01
SPEAKER_03: She loves my work.
57:02
SPEAKER_03: She's a I think her name's Larissa.
57:04
SPEAKER_03: She works for channel six.
57:04
SPEAKER_05: Well, you had one, right?
57:05
SPEAKER_05: You had a piece, didn't you?
57:06
SPEAKER_03: Yes, that's the one I'm talking about.
57:08
SPEAKER_03: So she did the piece on me in hopes that that was the goal.
57:11
SPEAKER_03: The goal was that we were hoping he was gonna wear them.
57:13
SPEAKER_03: He didn't turn out to wear them.
57:14
SPEAKER_03: So I'm just setting the record straight while I'm here now that that's kind of what had happened.
57:18
SPEAKER_03: You know, I was off a little bit by the size.
57:21
SPEAKER_03: It's okay.
57:22
SPEAKER_03: We got it worked out for next season.
57:24
SPEAKER_03: Cool.
57:24
SPEAKER_03: I know I could at least have him wear one pair of cleats for me out of all 17, 18 weeks next week, um, next year.
57:31
SPEAKER_03: That's not preseason and that's not postseason.
57:34
SPEAKER_03: So I mean, at the end of the or you know, playoffs.
57:36
SPEAKER_03: So at the end of the day, I'm worried about my nephew.
57:39
SPEAKER_03: My nephew is my uh my biggest responsibility when it comes to making sure that my work gets out there in the time that it needs to.
57:47
SPEAKER_03: My nephew's gonna be the one that's gonna get that all the time.
57:50
SPEAKER_03: That's awesome.
57:51
SPEAKER_03: He's always gonna be the one to get it.
57:52
SPEAKER_05: So you still you are you still working solo?
57:54
SPEAKER_05: Uh it's your full-time gig.
57:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yes, uh family of five.
57:59
SPEAKER_05: So you had a 96 hour stretch when you were uh you were talking about it.
58:02
SPEAKER_05: Uh I guess do you still work those kind of hours?
58:05
SPEAKER_05: Uh what's what's been the hardest part?
58:07
SPEAKER_05: Time exhaustion uh meeting demands.
58:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, meeting the demands by yourself, but that was having to juggle another job too.
58:14
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
58:15
SPEAKER_03: So um now it's kind of like a little more flexible, but that it's also because you know, a lot of that time opened up for me to say, hey, if I'm actually got my hands on something and I'm in the shop, I'm putting work out.
58:28
SPEAKER_03: So that's kind of like what where I'm at today.
58:31
SPEAKER_03: I met up with two clients.
58:32
SPEAKER_03: I picked up a catcher's helmet and I picked up some cleats.
58:35
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
58:36
SPEAKER_03: Those are gonna get done tonight and picked up in the morning.
58:38
SPEAKER_03: You know, and I know I have a long day ahead.
58:40
SPEAKER_03: I know I have a long night ahead.
58:42
SPEAKER_03: I had a long day starting yesterday, bro.
58:43
SPEAKER_03: I had to pack.
58:44
SPEAKER_03: I had to get my son's stuff from the grocery store for school the rest of the week.
58:48
SPEAKER_02: Right.
58:48
SPEAKER_03: Then I had to deal with him being heartbroken because he knew when I woke up out.
58:52
SPEAKER_03: So I'm having to lay there, wait till he falls asleep.
58:54
SPEAKER_03: So I get up and pack my stuff.
58:56
SPEAKER_03: Bro, I was literally down to the last minute before my Uber picked me up, making sure I didn't forget anything.
59:01
SPEAKER_03: And I still feel like I forgot something.
59:03
SPEAKER_03: I can't remember.
59:04
SPEAKER_03: Um but I'm here, you know, I'm here.
59:05
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna make it, I'm gonna make the I'm gonna make the I'm gonna make it shake.
59:09
SPEAKER_03: And and I'm excited to be here, man.
59:11
SPEAKER_03: I'm grateful for my clients, I'm grateful for my brothers, my family, everybody that's been a supporter of me and understanding what's going on.
59:18
SPEAKER_03: And like I said, you know, I just try to do right by people, man.
59:22
SPEAKER_03: It's important for me to do right by people.
59:24
SPEAKER_03: It's important that, you know, I keep it as one-on-one as possible.
59:28
SPEAKER_03: I don't need nobody trying to like talk the business for me.
59:30
SPEAKER_03: Like, oh, well, if you want to reach out to him, you can go through me.
59:33
SPEAKER_03: Nah, go through me directly.
59:35
SPEAKER_05: Is that something you learned like along the way from I guess growing up?
59:38
SPEAKER_05: You know what I'm saying?
59:39
SPEAKER_05: I always try to figure out why people are like this.
59:42
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
59:42
SPEAKER_05: Because you're what you were saying, what were you saying?
59:44
SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry.
59:45
SPEAKER_05: Um, like being one-on-one?
59:47
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, being one-on-one, just be having that type of grit.
59:50
SPEAKER_05: I guess you could.
59:50
SPEAKER_03: I feel I feel like I'd rather take five loyal clients than ten unloyal or or unfaithful clients.
59:57
SPEAKER_03: You you know, I've had people, and I'm sure there's a lot of people in this business that or any business, but I've had people hit me up and ask me, hey, I want to get a pair of cleats done.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_03: And this is what I'm kind of thinking, but how would you do it?
1:00:10
SPEAKER_03: And I give them the idea, all right, all right.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm gonna talk to my husband about it, and then I'll get back with you.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_03: Then days later, I see their kid has a pair of custom cleats that I didn't do.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_03: Oh wow, and it's my idea, it's it's more so almost to the T, but they just didn't execute it the way I would have done it.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_03: And I just think like that's bananas to me because what it is, what draws them away, it's like, okay, this Ozark is$2, but I can go get four 50 cent bottles of this no-name brand.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_03: Hey, it's still water, right?
1:00:41
SPEAKER_03: It's four bottles of water, and it is really, but you know, I'm not saying my stuff's better.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_03: What I'm saying is people just it's hard for people to be original, bro.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_03: It's really hard.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_03: I stay in my lane for a reason.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_03: The reason I don't even look at other people's work.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_03: I I I you know the the cleats I want to create, like you know, when I have an extra pair of cleats, I I sit down and I think, hey, I want to do a pair because I want to post it and showcase this was my idea, and they're available for purchase, but this is what I came up with.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_03: Hey, bro, people don't know about Candyland.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_03: Like the kids, I'm saying, because you gotta think about it.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_03: I'm in a line of work where it's kids, bro, predominantly kids.
1:01:22
SPEAKER_03: I'm about to be set up at an event from six-year-olds all the way to 14-year-olds.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_03: What they're into is nothing.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_03: I I have no education on Roblox, Fortnite, whatever it is that they're bro.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_03: You know, you you know, I've heard somebody say I heard my my son, I I heard somebody say my son's into Mr.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_03: Beast.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, bro, that's a dude that just gives money away.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_03: He just has a YouTube, that's what they're into.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, how would you even oh he has a logo?
1:01:51
SPEAKER_03: Oh, so because he has a logo and they just that's what they're into.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, bro, it's nothing like when we were kids.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_03: I was in the Ninja Turtles, I was in the original WWF, the original wrestling, WCW, you know what I'm saying?
1:02:03
SPEAKER_03: Like, I was in the you know, G.I.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_03: Joe's and Transformers, bro.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_03: Like, I wasn't into none of this stuff.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_03: So when I want to create something that I want to create, and I I think to myself, oh, this will sell, bro.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_03: It won't sell.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_03: I sit on it because these kids don't know it.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_03: The parents get excited.
1:02:21
SPEAKER_00: Their parents are like, oh my god, well, my kid ain't gonna watch that.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, I just got excited.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm gonna do a candy land set for my trophy for my my shelf at the at the shop.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_03: But when I do it, these kids don't know what it is.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_03: But just imagine it's gonna be just like the board, just like the board, but on a pair of cleats.
1:02:40
SPEAKER_03: One cleat's gonna have the whole, like the you know, the squares, the different colors with the different, you know what I'm saying?
1:02:46
SPEAKER_03: And I'm even gonna do a shoots and ladders theme too on another pair of cleats.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I love them.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_03: They're gone.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_03: Boom, it's gone.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, brother.
1:02:58
SPEAKER_03: Like the hey, this the who's this old man now, bro.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_05: Ask your ask your uh ask the people on the live if they have any questions for you.
1:03:06
SPEAKER_03: Uh all right, so I'm sitting here.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_03: Does anybody on this live have any questions while we're here before I guess and we're gonna start wrapping it up here pretty soon, guys?
1:03:14
SPEAKER_05: In the meantime, in the meantime, uh, what's been the toughest less lesson facing competition in the sneaker industry?
1:03:19
SPEAKER_03: Uh, toughest lesson has been to not it was it hasn't been my toughest lesson, it's just my biggest lesson is to not worry about anybody else.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_03: Keep your head down.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_03: You're gonna it I'm always gonna have the clients that I've had it they only multiply, they reproduce, clients reproduce on their own with with time, with span.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_03: So the ten that I had loyal from the first year that came back the second year, they brought two or three more.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_05: So you know, and then it just keeps going and going.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_05: So you know that as long as you keep putting in work, consistency.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_03: Consistency is key, and I think that's with everything in life, bro.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_03: Everything in life.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_03: And then and and again, you hit it on the air, and and and to verify sizing.
1:04:12
SPEAKER_03: But again, you know, when I did this, this was to do it in preparation of him not knowing we were gonna surprise him with it.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_03: So I blame fucking Google.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_03: And I blame I, you know, like what are you talking about?
1:04:27
SPEAKER_03: Uh like bio like bioinformation about like an athlete.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_03: Like you could look up, yeah, you can look you could look up an athlete.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_05: Oh, you're talking about the Jalen Hurts.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you can look up an athlete and they'll have like their a lot of them have sizing, a lot of them don't, but if you really do your digging, you can find out.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_03: How I used to find out about what athletes wore, and I couldn't find it on Google, is I would go on eBay and I would type in the athlete's name, Game Worn Cleats, and then it has the description and it says what size it is.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_03: Bam, I got his ass now.
1:04:53
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
1:04:53
SPEAKER_05: So so you so you utilize the internet a lot, and obviously I talk about AI free.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_05: I talk about AI a lot.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_05: How do you feel about that?
1:05:02
SPEAKER_05: The AI?
1:05:03
SPEAKER_05: Do you use it at all?
1:05:04
SPEAKER_05: Like say chat GPT or stuff like that.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_03: The only AI I've ever known and will ever be known to know is Alan Iverson.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know nothing about AI or what does it mean?
1:05:16
SPEAKER_03: Oh, artificial intelligence, right?
1:05:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because like if you go on chat GPT or whatever these chat bots or whatever, hey, what's the size of Jedi and Hurts's shoe?
1:05:25
SPEAKER_05: And it'll search the internet, not just Google, it'll search everywhere.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_05: It's kind of like Google, it'll search everywhere.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_05: So like a robot, like a program, a robot.
1:05:31
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, basically, because basically they they have a they have a huge computer and they feed all this information to that computer, and you're basically asking that computer, hey, what's going on here?
1:05:40
SPEAKER_05: And it's gonna give you the best result from all the data sets that it has.
1:05:43
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_05: You see what I'm saying?
1:05:45
SPEAKER_05: Okay, go for it.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_05: So so AI, so AI, it's basically kind of like a new Google.
1:05:50
SPEAKER_05: It's just more sophisticated in the way it answers.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_03: Okay, but and and look at this though.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_03: Let's just take the take my my way of sourcing right like something out, right?
1:05:58
SPEAKER_03: Who would think about that?
1:06:00
SPEAKER_03: Who would think about?
1:06:01
SPEAKER_03: Well, you know what?
1:06:02
SPEAKER_03: Go where they would sell something of this dude.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_03: How would they sell something at what comp eBay?
1:06:08
SPEAKER_03: So you go and you type in that person's name.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_03: Game worn.
1:06:13
SPEAKER_03: Because it has to be a pair they worn in order for the people who have it that are selling it, will just describe.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_03: They're gonna give the description.
1:06:22
SPEAKER_03: It was this year, this game, size, such and such, autograph.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_03: They were used in the game winning walk-off home run.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_03: And he signed it.
1:06:32
SPEAKER_03: That's cool, man.
1:06:33
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, I got his ass.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_05: Size fucking 12.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_05: So you become a CIA, what you call it?
1:06:39
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, a detective.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_03: You have to because, bro, I don't got no I don't I don't feel like it's I feel like if you don't have to pay for something that's not being cheap, if you don't have to just openly just throw money away, dog, because you don't want to do a little homework, and you probably don't need to be in the line of work, bro.
1:06:57
SPEAKER_03: If you're passionate about something, you gotta get down to the like the most lowest bottom point you could ever be in with that company and say, Can I or in that position of line of work and can I get out of it?
1:07:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you have to.
1:07:09
SPEAKER_03: And if you get out of it and you feel like, oh, I could do that shit again, bro.
1:07:13
SPEAKER_03: Don't ever put me.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_05: Have you heard that Dennis Rodman?
1:07:16
SPEAKER_05: He he would count the ball rotations and he would look at them, he would see like Jordan shoot and he would watch the rotations of the balls of the balls.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_05: And who does that?
1:07:25
SPEAKER_05: Dennis Rodman's one of the.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_05: I mean, see what I'm saying?
1:07:27
SPEAKER_05: Like exactly what you're saying.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_05: Who does that?
1:07:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:07:31
SPEAKER_05: To be able to see where it's gonna bounce.
1:07:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, to see where it's gonna bounce.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying though, but who does who thinks of going into more dissecting, you know, of of something that's passionate about what they're doing, especially like yourself?
1:07:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's why we're saying about it.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_05: Uh, is there any questions there?
1:07:47
SPEAKER_05: Nah, just that I'm ugly.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_05: My brother next to he's still ugly.
1:07:50
SPEAKER_05: All right, real quick.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_05: Uh, so what advice would you give a young person in Corpus Christi or anywhere just starting their own business?
1:07:57
SPEAKER_05: It could be sneaker business or whatever type.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_05: Well, what type of advice would you give them?
1:08:02
SPEAKER_03: Believe in yourself and keep them hating.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_03: Like, like that's the biggest thing, bro.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_03: Because if you draw into the negativity, they already won.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_03: They got you out your zone, they got you out your element.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_03: And you know what that I've always learned?
1:08:14
SPEAKER_03: It's hard for people to stick to something, but it's easy for them to give it up, dog.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_03: And that's anything.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_03: That's anything.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_03: It took me 20-something years to give up music, bro.
1:08:26
SPEAKER_03: 20-something years for me to realize that it wasn't adding up, bro.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_03: And you know how hard like that crushed my soul, bro.
1:08:35
SPEAKER_03: Cause I was like, dude, I wanted to do this my whole life.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_03: Then I saw it added up in the first year.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_03: Me and my wife were looking through the books.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_03: During COVID, I made 90,000 this year in cleats.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_03: She's like, I said, shit, I'm gonna make a hundred next year.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_03: Dude, come on.
1:08:53
SPEAKER_03: I didn't, I didn't.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_03: It took me a few years.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_03: I didn't, but I have.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_03: Of course.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_05: You have a mindset, yeah.
1:08:59
SPEAKER_03: That mindset to and and it's progression, bro.
1:09:01
SPEAKER_03: And it's you know what?
1:09:02
SPEAKER_03: You just gotta keep moving, keep grinding, keep hustling.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_03: I told myself in the first year I did it, I'm gonna do a hundred pairs this year.
1:09:11
SPEAKER_03: Bro, that's nothing now, bro.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_03: That's nothing now.
1:09:17
SPEAKER_03: Just with a team order, that's already 12 to 14 right there.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_05: That's amazing how you can get orders like that.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_03: It's all about the stripping and the preparation.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_03: Like what I'm gonna do tomorrow night.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_03: I have a team order I gotta do.
1:09:27
SPEAKER_03: Every cleat will be unlaced at once, every cleat will be taped off, marked off what player, what info, what name, what number, what's going on there.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_03: All with sticky notes, all inside the cleats.
1:09:39
SPEAKER_03: Everything is just in preparation at once.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_03: Assembly line.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, assembly line.
1:09:42
SPEAKER_03: Then I'm stripping it, then I'm sanding it, then I'm wiping it, then I'm applying it, and then boom, paint time.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_03: Go, go, go, go, go.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_03: Stencil, go, go, go, go, go.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_03: Removal, touch up, touch up, touch up, all the way through.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_03: Clear coat, dry.
1:09:55
SPEAKER_03: That's right.
1:09:56
SPEAKER_05: How do you feel about your equipment?
1:09:57
SPEAKER_05: Like, do you are you constantly like looking for upgrades?
1:10:00
SPEAKER_03: If it ain't broke, don't fix it, big dog.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_03: I'm comfortable.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_03: I'm comfortable.
1:10:06
SPEAKER_03: I don't need a million dollar tool to make, or I don't make I don't need a million-dollar tool to make million-dollar money.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_03: I could use a$30 tool, like I use.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_03: My airbrush is$30, bro.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_06: Wow.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_03: I my first airbrush,$140.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_05: So you're basic so you're basically charging for your time.
1:10:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:10:25
SPEAKER_03: It's not about how fast I get it done, it's about the amount of time that I mastered and perfected to get it done that quick for you.
1:10:32
SPEAKER_03: That's what you're paying for.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_05: Your value, your the the value of your time.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_03: If I get it done in 30 minutes, that shouldn't tell you to ask me, well, damn, you got it done in 30 minutes, it should still be the same price.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_03: I should charge you more.
1:10:44
SPEAKER_03: I should charge you more.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_03: And I'm fair.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_03: Y'all go look this up right now.
1:10:51
SPEAKER_03: Look up how much people who are really in the game that customize, they're not doing nothing under 1500.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_03: Nothing.
1:10:58
SPEAKER_03: And that's not including the cleat, bro.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_05: Do you have a speculation of why that is?
1:11:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, supply and demand.
1:11:04
SPEAKER_03: Supply and you want it that one of them.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_05: Okay, right, right.
1:11:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you want it that bad?
1:11:09
SPEAKER_03: This is what I'm charging.
1:11:10
SPEAKER_03: You want to know why?
1:11:11
SPEAKER_03: Because it's easy for us to say no now.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_03: It was hard for me the first two years.
1:11:15
SPEAKER_03: I couldn't say no to nobody, bro, because I was eager to get my workout done.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_06: Right, right, right.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_03: I used to start at this number, and by the time I knew it, I was I wouldn't even make him, bro.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_03: I was under$10,$15 because I couldn't even make the amount of money that they actually wanted to pay me just to cover the cleats that I got.
1:11:32
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
1:11:32
SPEAKER_05: Amazing.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_05: Did you have, did you have, I guess when I guess when that when it came to that point, you decided, okay, now I can say no.
1:11:39
SPEAKER_05: Did you I mean how did you figure out did you figure out the hard way?
1:11:42
SPEAKER_05: Did you have a plan?
1:11:43
SPEAKER_05: You know what I'm saying?
1:11:44
SPEAKER_05: Did uh did you look forward and be like, okay, I know at one point I can be able to say no uh to continue.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_05: No, I got to continue.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_05: You know what I'm saying?
1:11:52
SPEAKER_05: Like because you there's there's these milestones that you hit.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_03: And it's like, are you prepared?
1:11:56
SPEAKER_03: I feel like I would have never said no had I not got put in that position to say no.
1:12:01
SPEAKER_03: I got put in a position after so many times that I was just like, you know what, nah, because it's not worth it.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_03: And I started having conversations with people.
1:12:07
SPEAKER_03: I was like, bro, do I really it is it really worth for me to continue this?
1:12:11
SPEAKER_03: And it's like, yeah, for the people that do care about your work, continue it for them.
1:12:16
SPEAKER_03: Don't worry about the naysayers and the people that want to try to like negotiate with you and all that.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_03: Worry about the five that you got solid over here instead of the ten that keep calling you every month or every six months or every three weeks.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_03: Hey, bro, hey, so how much would you charge?
1:12:31
SPEAKER_03: Bro, look up in the feed that we just had this conversation three weeks ago.
1:12:34
SPEAKER_03: The price is still the same, nothing for women, right?
1:12:38
SPEAKER_03: Because it should have been more now.
1:12:41
SPEAKER_03: No, I'm serious, bro.
1:12:43
SPEAKER_03: And I still, it's hard for me to do a pay increase right now with inflation, and that's that's my heart talking.
1:12:50
SPEAKER_03: I could easily say, nope, nope, all my supplies has gone up in cost.
1:12:54
SPEAKER_05: And you can you can blame it on inflation, right?
1:12:56
SPEAKER_03: 100%, because it is true, bro.
1:12:58
SPEAKER_03: All my supplies cost more.
1:12:59
SPEAKER_03: What used to cost me$4 a pack cost me seven now.
1:13:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and it adds up.
1:13:04
SPEAKER_03: So I'm like, y'all gonna have to do that.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_03: So you could do that.
1:13:06
SPEAKER_03: I could, but I don't, bro.
1:13:08
SPEAKER_03: I don't because I want people to still feel like, man, bro, this is a genuine dude, dog.
1:13:13
SPEAKER_03: Like this dude really, bro, he's really, really not into it for the money.
1:13:16
SPEAKER_03: This dude just wants to be able to be home when he wants.
1:13:18
SPEAKER_03: I want to be able to take my son, my son's starting t-ball.
1:13:21
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:13:21
SPEAKER_03: And I'll tell this to anybody.
1:13:22
SPEAKER_03: Bro, I'm not missing that time, bro.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_05: Man, you just mentioned that we had another guest, uh, Haley Wilson from the local Texas Foodie or whatever, but she does anyway.
1:13:32
SPEAKER_05: She was saying that when you pay a small business, would you consider yourself a small business?
1:13:36
SPEAKER_05: You pay your small business, you're paying for their their child's t-ball or their child's dance lessons or something like that when you're when you're supporting the local business or small business like that.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_05: That's interesting that you bring that up.
1:13:48
SPEAKER_05: And it's interesting to you, it's interesting too that you're like, this is what I want to be able to be home.
1:13:52
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:13:52
SPEAKER_05: This is why I'm making this why I'm another reason why I'm doing this, obviously, to have money come in my pocket into my household so that we can, you know what I mean?
1:14:00
SPEAKER_05: The money is an important thing.
1:14:02
SPEAKER_05: It's an important thing.
1:14:03
SPEAKER_05: I I don't like that we demonize it, you know what I mean?
1:14:05
SPEAKER_05: It can be demonized, but at the end of the day, every transaction, most of every transaction that we do has something to do with money.
1:14:12
SPEAKER_05: So why do we demonize it?
1:14:13
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:14:14
SPEAKER_05: Why don't we just like okay, yeah, we do need this money, we do need to charge this.
1:14:18
SPEAKER_05: You know, we should do that, you know what I mean?
1:14:20
SPEAKER_05: Instead of being like, oh, he's greedy or he's this, you know, whatever.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_05: No, dude, like it's a currency.
1:14:26
SPEAKER_05: That's why they call it a currency.
1:14:27
SPEAKER_03: And and and I fairly, and I say this with all due, I I undercharge a hundred percent, bro.
1:14:33
SPEAKER_03: I undercharge a hundred percent.
1:14:35
SPEAKER_03: Like, bro.
1:14:37
SPEAKER_05: It's cool that you know that, that you're mindful of that, you know.
1:14:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I bro, I could easily charge more.
1:14:43
SPEAKER_03: The thing is, and you know, it I don't like to single anybody out, but you know, you know it's certain people and certain places and certain, it's just um it's a it's an effect, it's just like a saturation that people get sucked into where it's like, uh yeah, I don't want to pay for that.
1:15:01
SPEAKER_03: Oh, but they'll go stand in line for Selena cups for a whole day, a whole overnight and everything for a five dollar Selena cup.
1:15:09
SPEAKER_05: My thing is, bro, like if you can't if you can't afford it, if you don't have the money to even buy it.
1:15:14
SPEAKER_03: Don't don't they they call it?
1:15:16
SPEAKER_03: But look, this is the thing, that's the line of work, right?
1:15:19
SPEAKER_03: You gotta go through the whole spill of being, and that's what that's what I get for not having a website with pricing, because that could eliminate a lot of those questions.
1:15:28
SPEAKER_03: Well wow.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_03: They could look at a website and see it and make a dictation on their or they they can make a decision and be like, yeah, I don't want to do it, or yeah, I want to proceed and give me a caller or place an order.
1:15:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't have a website because I can't put pricing on something that hasn't been talked about yet.
1:15:43
SPEAKER_03: So I can't say, yeah, I'll charge$400 for a pair of cleats, right?
1:15:47
SPEAKER_03: But you want me to do color-changing Louis Vuitton, right?
1:15:50
SPEAKER_03: Iced out cleats with an all-red Christian Louis Vuitton bottom, bro.
1:15:54
SPEAKER_03: That's gotta cost you at least six to seven hundred dollars, bro.
1:15:58
SPEAKER_05: So every every client is different.
1:16:00
SPEAKER_03: Every client is different, but I still try to keep it in the same ballpark.
1:16:04
SPEAKER_03: I have to.
1:16:05
SPEAKER_03: I have to.
1:16:06
SPEAKER_03: Like right now, let's just throw a ballpark, and a lot of my clients they'll they'll they'll vouch for me in what I'm saying.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_03: A youth pair of cleats right now, you're looking at about$375.
1:16:15
SPEAKER_05: Customized already?
1:16:17
SPEAKER_05: Like that?
1:16:17
SPEAKER_05: Okay, okay.
1:16:18
SPEAKER_03: And the dude that got these ain't had no, where do I send the money, bro?
1:16:22
SPEAKER_03: Now, let's ask yourself this question Does that include or not include the cleats?
1:16:30
SPEAKER_03: But if you have a pair of cleats, does that change the price?
1:16:35
SPEAKER_03: And the reason why I say that to say this is because when I include the cleats, it's because I can and because I have the cleats to include, and it's a write-off for me anyway.
1:16:45
SPEAKER_03: And I'm I got the canvas to eliminate time on waiting for somebody to ship me something that I could 50-50 possibly do or not be able to do because of the cleat that they chose.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_03: So, what I do is I send them the cleats that I have in stock and say if you choose any of these in a size five that you like, I could do it for you 100%.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_03: So it makes my job harder when somebody says, Hey bro, I got a pair of cleats for or I get hit with this all the time.
1:17:09
SPEAKER_03: Can you do a pair of used cleats?
1:17:11
SPEAKER_03: I can, but are you gonna get your money's worth?
1:17:14
SPEAKER_03: No, because there what's gonna happen is it's gonna chip or it's gonna crack because the creasing, the wear and tear, they have to be brand new in order for me to remove the factory finish and strip it properly in preparation for me to paint it.
1:17:25
SPEAKER_03: It's gotta be brand new.
1:17:27
SPEAKER_03: If it's not, you're gonna get what you're paying for.
1:17:30
SPEAKER_05: So you charge less for the used ones?
1:17:31
SPEAKER_03: No, no, still the same thing.
1:17:32
SPEAKER_03: No, what I'm saying is you're not gonna get your money's worth.
1:17:34
SPEAKER_03: That's what I should have said.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_03: Not you're getting what you're paying for.
1:17:37
SPEAKER_03: You're not getting your money's worth.
1:17:38
SPEAKER_03: You're getting ripped, it would be better to get a used one.
1:17:40
SPEAKER_05: 100% for the 100%.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_03: I got a buddy, I got a one of my clients that just booked me for when I'm out here.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_03: His name's uh Joey Flores.
1:17:48
SPEAKER_03: Wanted to get a full catcher set.
1:17:50
SPEAKER_03: I gave him different pictures with different pricing on what he could pick.
1:17:53
SPEAKER_03: The one he chose was the most expensive, most highest safety protocol, newest one that just dropped.
1:17:59
SPEAKER_03: I had to charge him that retail and I showed him the retail.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_06: Oh wow.
1:18:03
SPEAKER_03: Plus the artwork.
1:18:06
SPEAKER_03: This dude had a big ticket.
1:18:09
SPEAKER_03: Hey, I'm paying for quality service.
1:18:13
SPEAKER_03: You're ordering it for you, you're getting the catcher set for me.
1:18:16
SPEAKER_03: I don't need to worry about shipping it to you or buying it, making sure is this the one you can do, bro?
1:18:21
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:18:21
SPEAKER_03: I know what I can and can't do.
1:18:23
SPEAKER_06: Wow.
1:18:23
SPEAKER_03: So it eliminates that for my client anyway.
1:18:26
SPEAKER_03: My client says, hey, he's a size five, but I really don't know what I want.
1:18:29
SPEAKER_03: Say less.
1:18:30
SPEAKER_03: Let me show you what I got in a size five.
1:18:32
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I really like these cleats.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm doing the legwork for you.
1:18:35
SPEAKER_03: And I shouldn't.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_03: But I do.
1:18:37
SPEAKER_03: That's heart.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_03: That's that's me.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_03: That's the passion for it.
1:18:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:18:40
SPEAKER_03: I'm passionate about it.
1:18:41
SPEAKER_03: So I try to take care of my clients as as much and as fairly as possible, bro.
1:18:47
SPEAKER_03: And shout out to my brother Kali, man.
1:18:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh, House of Champs, that's my brother, man.
1:18:50
SPEAKER_03: He's got an apparel line where he takes care of all the athletes for like big team orders, backpacks.
1:18:56
SPEAKER_05: What's the name of the apparel line?
1:18:57
SPEAKER_05: House of Champs.
1:18:58
SPEAKER_05: House of Champs.
1:18:59
SPEAKER_03: House of Champs.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_03: My buddy Kali man out of Ingleside is a good dude.
1:19:03
SPEAKER_03: He's actually from Ohio.
1:19:04
SPEAKER_03: Uh, we're gonna be opening up a storefront out there in Ohio too.
1:19:08
SPEAKER_03: He's actually moving back here in the next couple weeks.
1:19:10
SPEAKER_03: So he's got a he's got a building he's looking at out there.
1:19:12
SPEAKER_03: Cool.
1:19:13
SPEAKER_03: Plus, I got a potential client that's playing for the Reds right now that I'm trying to lock in right now.
1:19:17
SPEAKER_03: I'm not too sure if it's gonna happen.
1:19:19
SPEAKER_03: Like I said, potential.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and if it does happen, I'll be going out to Cincinnati to go take care of that as well.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_03: And he'll meet me out there as well.
1:19:25
SPEAKER_03: So we got a lot of things on the East Coast that's popping off right now, and I'm very excited for 2025.
1:19:29
SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's awesome, man.
1:19:30
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, bro.
1:19:31
SPEAKER_03: Congrats, dude.
1:19:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm pumped, bro.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_05: Congrats, man.
1:19:34
SPEAKER_05: Wow, yeah, that's amazing.
1:19:36
SPEAKER_05: Well, thanks for coming on the show, man.
1:19:37
SPEAKER_05: Is there anything else you'd like to share?
1:19:39
SPEAKER_05: We covers a lot of bunch of stuff.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_05: This is a good conversation.
1:19:41
SPEAKER_03: Nah, man, I think it was great.
1:19:42
SPEAKER_03: I think it was awesome for the people.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_03: I'm just happy to be here.
1:19:44
SPEAKER_03: I'm grateful that you, you know, had me be a guest on here.
1:19:47
SPEAKER_03: So appreciate it.
1:19:47
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, talking about last time.
1:19:48
SPEAKER_05: I uh I thought we had the capability of doing it from live from here.
1:19:52
SPEAKER_05: We set up we set up our first conversation, but but yeah, thanks for reaching out and coming out and uh having some of your time here.
1:19:58
SPEAKER_05: I know you got another.
1:19:59
SPEAKER_05: Do you have another client after afterward?
1:20:01
SPEAKER_05: Oh, you got the scoop dose.
1:20:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I got the scoop dose off the cushion.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_03: What time is it at?
1:20:04
SPEAKER_03: 9 p.m.
1:20:05
SPEAKER_03: 9 p.m.
1:20:05
SPEAKER_03: So we're probably gonna go skip, go get something to eat.
1:20:07
SPEAKER_03: I'm starving.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_03: Right on.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_03: And I think my son wants to come to that one, my 20-year-old or 21-year-old.
1:20:11
SPEAKER_03: Now I have a 21-year-old.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_03: So go pick it.
1:20:13
SPEAKER_03: 21 21, bro.
1:20:15
SPEAKER_02: What's that like?
1:20:16
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
1:20:16
SPEAKER_03: Ah, bro.
1:20:17
SPEAKER_03: 21 and 4, bro.
1:20:18
SPEAKER_03: They both drive me crazy.
1:20:21
SPEAKER_03: Them dudes drive me up a wall, bro.
1:20:23
SPEAKER_03: But uh, yeah, man.
1:20:25
SPEAKER_03: How many girls?
1:20:26
SPEAKER_03: Three.
1:20:26
SPEAKER_03: Three girls.
1:20:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:20:28
SPEAKER_03: What's the oldest?
1:20:29
SPEAKER_03: So my son is the oldest.
1:20:30
SPEAKER_03: He's 21.
1:20:31
SPEAKER_03: Jadrian.
1:20:32
SPEAKER_03: Then I got my daughter Tycho.
1:20:34
SPEAKER_03: Uh, she stays in Dallas.
1:20:35
SPEAKER_03: Um, she's gonna be 16 uh in a few days, actually.
1:20:38
SPEAKER_03: And then I got my nine-year-old daughter, and then I got my six-year-old daughter, and then I got my four-year-old son.
1:20:44
SPEAKER_05: Ooh, wee.
1:20:45
SPEAKER_05: Got a handful.
1:20:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm trying to feel jacks in this thing, you know.
1:20:49
SPEAKER_05: Well, congrats on that, dude.
1:20:50
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no, man.
1:20:51
SPEAKER_05: I'm happy, bro.
1:20:51
SPEAKER_03: I appreciate it, man.
1:20:52
SPEAKER_03: Thank you for having me.
1:20:53
SPEAKER_03: And uh, shout out to everybody who supports me.
1:20:55
SPEAKER_03: All the people that were on this live for the whole interview, man.
1:20:58
SPEAKER_03: Thank y'all so much.
1:20:59
SPEAKER_03: And uh yeah, looking forward to getting the work done, man.
1:21:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm about to hit the streets of Corpus.
1:21:03
SPEAKER_05: If you see me out somewhere, y'all take a uh put your phone, uh, tag your uh uh your phone number and your and your uh your tags or whatever.
1:21:09
SPEAKER_05: Okay, yeah, for sure.
1:21:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so how do we how do we get a hold of you or so uh if anybody needs any custom artwork or anything of that nature, you can feel free to call me direct at 361-585-6279, or you can feel free to message me on any social media platform messaging or even email me at Binstankincustoms at gmail.com.
1:21:28
SPEAKER_03: And I'll be happy to get back to you as soon as possible.
1:21:31
SPEAKER_03: Um, I do got available time slots left before we get out of here.
1:21:34
SPEAKER_03: Um, I do have people that are inboxing me to fill those time slots, so I will send an updated flyer here within the next hour or so.
1:21:41
SPEAKER_03: But uh yeah, if anybody needs any time slots, get it locked in now.
1:21:44
SPEAKER_03: We'll get you knocked out of the way, and then uh look forward to seeing everybody this uh week at 21 Sports Performance.
1:21:50
SPEAKER_03: Shout out to Chris Brunell, Veronica Brunell for having me down here and uh being part of the perfect game super NIT this weekend in Portland.
1:21:57
SPEAKER_05: So we're gonna be rocking it, bro.
1:21:59
SPEAKER_05: Yes, sir.
1:22:00
SPEAKER_05: Congrats, and uh you guys tune in, check it out.
1:22:02
SPEAKER_05: Thanks a lot.
1:22:03
SPEAKER_05: This is the uh episode, the fourth, 85th episode of the Corpus Christi Red Podcast.
1:22:06
SPEAKER_03: I was born in '85.
1:22:07
SPEAKER_03: That's a good year, right there.
1:22:08
SPEAKER_05: Shout out to Maya, the producer back there, making this look nice, putting the photos up there.
1:22:12
SPEAKER_05: Uh produce sound studios.
1:22:13
SPEAKER_05: This is where we're at, downtown Corpus Christi, Texas.
1:22:16
SPEAKER_05: Stay tuned for the next uh episode.
1:22:17
SPEAKER_05: We got 86.
1:22:18
SPEAKER_05: I don't know who we got line.
1:22:19
SPEAKER_05: We got somebody lined up.
1:22:20
SPEAKER_05: Uh, but yeah, thanks a lot.
1:22:21
SPEAKER_05: Uh also for Alex Martinez and Freakman sitting down, sitting on the side from the Right and Hot Podcast.
1:22:27
SPEAKER_05: Uh tune in tonight for for uh Ben's uh Ben Stang Customs is also going to be on the Off the Kush podcast with uh Right and High Podcast.
1:22:35
SPEAKER_05: Uh but yeah, let's find guys.
1:22:37
SPEAKER_05: You have a good one.
1:22:38
SPEAKER_05: Thank you.