Latest / Clydesdale Media Podcast / Thursday Night CrossFit Talk - Full Review of Danielle Brandon Documentary
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- 0:28what is going on everybody
- 0:30welcome to thursday night
- 0:31crossfit talk and we have
- 0:34technical issues right off
- 0:35the top oh everywhere yeah
- 0:39so we stream to twitch we
- 0:41stream to twitter we stream
- 0:43for facebook and we stream
- 0:44to youtube and as I launch
- 0:46tonight's broadcast twitch
- 0:49is having issues
- 0:51And so I had to like clear
- 0:53out some stuff there and
- 0:55remove us from Twitch for this broadcast.
- 0:59So no Twitch tonight.
- 1:03And we deeply apologize for
- 1:05the versus show buffering so much.
- 1:08We tried something different
- 1:10this week to see if we
- 1:10could get that figured out.
- 1:13Didn't work.
- 1:14We're going to keep trying,
- 1:15and I'm going to reach out
- 1:16to StreamYard to see what's
- 1:19going on with it.
- 1:19Because we have done this
- 1:22type of broadcast before,
- 1:23and it's never buffered.
- 1:25It's just started doing this
- 1:27with the Versa series for some reason.
- 1:32So all fun technical stuff.
- 1:36I thought when I was in my
- 1:3820s I would always be
- 1:38technologically savvy,
- 1:41and I've learned that I'm not anymore.
- 1:45Yeah, I'm not.
- 1:47Yeah.
- 1:47I know how to plug in microphones now.
- 1:52That's about it.
- 1:54Yeah.
- 1:55So how was everybody's week?
- 1:58Oh, great.
- 2:02That was good for me.
- 2:04I mean, that was a short week for school.
- 2:05We have this Friday, yes, or tomorrow and
- 2:10monday off so I drove home
- 2:11to sarnia which is my
- 2:12hometown right after school
- 2:14today so I'm home thanks
- 2:17and you have a big family
- 2:18right and are they all in
- 2:20for the weekend uh they
- 2:22will be uh my my one sister
- 2:25is missing she'll be here
- 2:27uh saturday I think is your
- 2:30twin there yes I saw her today
- 2:33okay um you also had a good
- 2:36week because you got the
- 2:38official video verified
- 2:41what was that process like
- 2:42did you just get an email
- 2:43saying congratulations
- 2:45you're you're good um
- 2:49Yeah,
- 2:49essentially the email that I posted
- 2:51on my story was the email
- 2:53from Becky from CrossFit
- 2:56that sent us that.
- 2:57But like none of the videos
- 2:59got like individually
- 3:00verified like we get at quarterfinals.
- 3:03It was just that email that
- 3:04confirmed my placement.
- 3:06And then I went to the
- 3:07leaderboard to see if
- 3:08anything had changed in my
- 3:09numbers and none of my
- 3:10scores had changed.
- 3:11I'm like, okay, I'm good.
- 3:12And then when I did that right away,
- 3:14I had noticed the change at
- 3:16the top and I was like, oh,
- 3:17someone got a,
- 3:18penalty and then knew right
- 3:20away um like what we're
- 3:23going so uh she won 2500 us
- 3:27dollars equal spousal split
- 3:31sounds legit she also she
- 3:35also told me about equal
- 3:36spouse um split when she
- 3:39paid for coast and cali's
- 3:40uh vaccines today or yesterday sorry
- 3:46So the only bright side for
- 3:48Carolyn is when you convert
- 3:50that to Canadian,
- 3:50you're actually making more.
- 3:52It'll end up being the same
- 3:54because we'll get like 30%
- 3:57withhold and stuff like that.
- 3:59So normally it's going to be
- 4:01like 3,500 American,
- 4:02which comes back to around
- 4:035,000 Canadian.
- 4:06Okay.
- 4:09Yeah, 30%.
- 4:09Dang.
- 4:11Yeah, they always hold that.
- 4:12Oh, yeah.
- 4:15That's not just a Canadian thing.
- 4:17No.
- 4:20So any plans for it or just
- 4:23put it away to pay for your season?
- 4:25No, I'm just saving up for Lex and I,
- 4:30family stuff, future plans,
- 4:33maybe eventually a house or something,
- 4:35but just saving up.
- 4:39Very cool.
- 4:41I'm not a big spender.
- 4:45workout clothes shoes can't
- 4:47justify that stuff anymore
- 4:48like I have too much yeah
- 4:51and you're like are you
- 4:53still sponsored by tier or
- 4:54was that a one season yeah
- 4:56so that technically ended
- 4:58um middle of march I had
- 5:00like a one-year contract
- 5:01and then um so that ended
- 5:04and then I would I didn't
- 5:05get extended technically
- 5:07but I mean I'll still be
- 5:08wearing tier like I like
- 5:10their stuff um that won't change
- 5:13So hopefully I can get back onto it.
- 5:15They said like, if I make,
- 5:17let's say the games or
- 5:18something like they would
- 5:18do another type of possible
- 5:22deal or something like they
- 5:23do to some of the athletes
- 5:25at certain competitions.
- 5:26So hoping to get that again,
- 5:28because it was a really good partnership.
- 5:29It helped me a lot
- 5:30throughout my season for
- 5:31some of the expenses.
- 5:33So I was bummed that I
- 5:36wasn't able to resign something, but like,
- 5:38I also don't have like an
- 5:39agent and stuff like that
- 5:40working to help me
- 5:42some of the other athletes
- 5:42do so um I guess lex counts
- 5:46sometime as my my agent but
- 5:50with less experience than
- 5:52some of the ones out there
- 5:53and she takes 50 split
- 5:55instead of yeah that's a
- 5:56hard that's a hard taxing
- 5:59right there lex I don't
- 6:01know about this agent now
- 6:03might need a new one might
- 6:03fire her yeah we gotta let
- 6:06them know you're on the the
- 6:07original thursday night crossfit podcast
- 6:12As Kenneth likes to always say,
- 6:13be original.
- 6:17Yeah, and you've placed fifth in the Open,
- 6:20and you've been on around the whiteboard.
- 6:22Like,
- 6:22you've probably had more exposure
- 6:25this season overall
- 6:28media-wise than you have in
- 6:30a couple years.
- 6:34Yeah, maybe a little bit.
- 6:36I mean, yeah, the Open helps,
- 6:38around the whiteboard helps.
- 6:39I mean,
- 6:39the demo team last year was still a big –
- 6:42um, opportunity.
- 6:43I think that was really big.
- 6:45I really, I really enjoyed that.
- 6:46Hopefully I don't have to
- 6:48get to that point this year,
- 6:49but it was really a cool experience.
- 6:52Yeah, we are.
- 6:54We're, we're all speeds ahead games,
- 6:57athlete, not demo athlete.
- 6:59That's the plan.
- 7:00Yeah.
- 7:02Did you fill out your top 25?
- 7:05Me?
- 7:06Yeah.
- 7:07Yeah.
- 7:08I did it today.
- 7:09It came this time.
- 7:11You guys have to do one at
- 7:13the end of each month for
- 7:14the beginning of the following month?
- 7:16Off-season was just kind of sporadic,
- 7:18but it looks like now it's
- 7:19every month now that the
- 7:22Open has started.
- 7:26Let's hope it's better than the last time.
- 7:28The last time I was in the hospital,
- 7:30so I missed submitting my ballot,
- 7:33but they had people like
- 7:37mal on the top 10 and people
- 7:40that are not even competing
- 7:41yeah there's like eight
- 7:43nine people on there like
- 7:44you can't even like create
- 7:45a full list with like it's
- 7:48it's not good yeah I had to
- 7:50write in like four people personally
- 7:54So see,
- 7:55I and I actually this time took
- 7:57pictures of my ballot so I
- 7:59could actually remember the
- 8:01exact order of where I put people.
- 8:03Well,
- 8:04and last year they released like
- 8:07every media person's picks,
- 8:11but he didn't do that this time around.
- 8:13So he only did that one time.
- 8:16Oh, OK.
- 8:17Was that the end of the season?
- 8:18I think it's right before the games.
- 8:20That's OK.
- 8:21Yeah, I think I don't know.
- 8:22I think.
- 8:23I think it all depends on
- 8:24how busy he is and how much
- 8:26he can put together.
- 8:26Um, but, uh, but yeah.
- 8:32Um, so mine's in, um,
- 8:35I've been pretty blatant
- 8:37about who I think is going
- 8:38to win the games on both sides.
- 8:41So that's who I went with.
- 8:44So I have Emma Lawson on the
- 8:45women's side and Jeff Adler on the,
- 8:48on the men's side to stick
- 8:50with the all Canadian podcast here.
- 8:52I think those are very good picks.
- 8:57So yeah, my,
- 8:58my women's is a little controversial.
- 9:00I'm sure it's Emma, Laura, Tia.
- 9:06I actually think mine might
- 9:07be the exact same.
- 9:09It either is Laura, Emma, Tia,
- 9:11or the same as yours.
- 9:13I'll have to look at my screenshot.
- 9:15There's just a lot of
- 9:16unknown right now with Tia's wrist.
- 9:19Yeah.
- 9:20I almost moved her down
- 9:21because of the wrist.
- 9:22I know.
- 9:23We do them every month, so... Yeah.
- 9:26You know, if we find out it's okay,
- 9:27I can move her back up, but... Right.
- 9:30But she has to get into that e-semi,
- 9:32and...
- 9:34that's not going to be an
- 9:35easy feat if you're not a
- 9:36hundred percent.
- 9:37Nope.
- 9:40And it's been how long it's
- 9:41been two months like that.
- 9:42Like that's,
- 9:43it's not just like arthritis stuff here.
- 9:45Like,
- 9:46I don't know what that is that she has,
- 9:47but it seems like there was
- 9:49a fracture or something to me.
- 9:51So have you been like
- 9:53following the progress stuff?
- 9:56I saw one video about it, but not much.
- 9:59Something about the frog
- 10:00grips and the stickiness or
- 10:02something like that.
- 10:04When the wrist is really thick,
- 10:07the wrap around the wrist.
- 10:09Yeah, it's yeah, a little bit.
- 10:12It's more almost like it's just grip lock.
- 10:14I mean,
- 10:15either they're so tacky that it's
- 10:17but or it's so long that
- 10:18it's getting grip lock and getting stuck.
- 10:20But the way the one day when she was like,
- 10:24like,
- 10:24I think either at the moment or whatever,
- 10:25the way she like pointed at
- 10:26what was going on, it looked like.
- 10:30the people that have posted
- 10:31like their injuries from the grips.
- 10:33So I'm like, I don't know.
- 10:36I'm very curious what
- 10:37actually is going on.
- 10:38Well, she's been used.
- 10:39She was using the bear
- 10:40complex for many years.
- 10:41Cause I remember I was like, Oh,
- 10:43who's good at CrossFit.
- 10:44Oh, they're wearing bear comics.
- 10:45I'm going to order bear.
- 10:46Like that's, you know,
- 10:47you just look at who are
- 10:48the top athletes and what
- 10:49they're wearing.
- 10:50She's always been wearing bear comics.
- 10:51So when you switch,
- 10:52like you notice those difference,
- 10:53if it's hitting your wrist
- 10:54a little bit different,
- 10:55especially if you said it's thicker here.
- 10:57So as you're doing bar muscle ups,
- 10:58that might be putting
- 10:59pressure somewhere different.
- 11:02Yeah.
- 11:03Yeah.
- 11:03Colton switched to him too.
- 11:05I did see that.
- 11:07So, yeah, I mean,
- 11:09I've heard they're like super tacky,
- 11:11but maybe they're too tacky.
- 11:14There's this one company that I tried.
- 11:17They're like basketball material.
- 11:20I don't know if that's like
- 11:20the frog grips or not,
- 11:22but Lex uses them now.
- 11:23They're so grippy.
- 11:25I never had any grips like that.
- 11:27But you can't have like,
- 11:28it doesn't help to have chalk on the bar.
- 11:31So like I didn't want to get
- 11:32used to them because I know
- 11:33at comp there's going to be
- 11:34chalk on the bar.
- 11:35Mm-hmm.
- 11:38Not that I'm like a gymnast by any means,
- 11:40but I have the Element 26
- 11:44chockless grips.
- 11:46And for me, it just works best.
- 11:48Even just doing hanging knees raises,
- 11:50being a big guy,
- 11:51it just gives me that
- 11:52little extra grip so I can
- 11:54string together more than I could before.
- 11:58So I really like those.
- 12:01And I don't like to chalk.
- 12:03Like I don't chalk when I lift.
- 12:04I don't.
- 12:07So that's just me.
- 12:08I do.
- 12:09I like the break.
- 12:10Yeah, you're saving a rest break.
- 12:12I like the fun ways to break.
- 12:14I can tighten those collars.
- 12:16I can adjust my wrist straps, whatever.
- 12:21I don't need chalk.
- 12:24Lex says,
- 12:26games bound for Scott and games
- 12:27bound for Jamie and Carol.
- 12:31Because she said, how's the gym been?
- 12:33Yeah.
- 12:34How's the gym been?
- 12:34So this week has been much better.
- 12:36I'm way less sore.
- 12:38I still feel pretty weak.
- 12:42And today was horrible.
- 12:44What was today?
- 12:45There was no rest.
- 12:46So it was the ghost.
- 12:48Oh, I love that one.
- 12:50Not.
- 12:50There's too many double unders.
- 12:53Right.
- 12:53Well,
- 12:53it's a great workout to work on
- 12:55double unders.
- 12:56Because it's basically FICO and Bad Style,
- 13:00row cows, burpees, double-unders,
- 13:05minute rest for eight rounds.
- 13:10So you're doing
- 13:11double-unders under fatigue.
- 13:14But my engine is so bad,
- 13:16by the time I got to the double-unders,
- 13:18like I was sucking air so hard.
- 13:21Like it just was rough.
- 13:23It's a hard workout.
- 13:24Yeah.
- 13:25It is, especially those last four rounds.
- 13:29We program it at our gym
- 13:31normally like Halloween or
- 13:34at least another time in the year.
- 13:35It's like our affiliate
- 13:36owner's favorite workout as well.
- 13:39If you want an engine workout,
- 13:43it's the one.
- 13:45And that's what Thursdays are at Polaris.
- 13:48Every Thursday is like a
- 13:50longer engine type workout.
- 13:56kind of a Christie specialty
- 13:58is like what we like to call it.
- 14:01So, but yeah, it, it was bad, but I,
- 14:05but I do feel better this week.
- 14:07Like my legs aren't,
- 14:09I actually put weight on my
- 14:10back for back squats this week.
- 14:12Um,
- 14:13and I wasn't as sore as air squats a
- 14:15week before.
- 14:16That's good.
- 14:17So it was only 95 pounds.
- 14:21And it's funny because, um,
- 14:24Like,
- 14:24I logged it in Wattify that I checked
- 14:28my ego, and Christy actually commented.
- 14:31Because I have not seen
- 14:33Christy since I've been back.
- 14:34Because she's been off to Houston,
- 14:36doing all that kind of stuff.
- 14:38But she actually gave me a
- 14:40big thumbs up for checking my ego.
- 14:43And that's just where I am right now.
- 14:46Nothing wrong with that.
- 14:47And just got to get stronger.
- 14:49Just consistency,
- 14:50and then it starts going up.
- 14:52Yeah.
- 14:53Like again,
- 14:54big improvement from last week
- 14:55to this week.
- 14:57I'm just got to stay the course.
- 14:59Listen to my body.
- 15:00The one thing I found that I
- 15:01could not do is lay on my
- 15:02back under fatigue.
- 15:04That's still, it's not real good for me.
- 15:07What happens?
- 15:08I just can't breathe.
- 15:09Okay.
- 15:11So like we did bench press
- 15:12on Monday as part of the workout.
- 15:15And when I laid back on the
- 15:16bench under fatigue, could not breathe.
- 15:21warmup could rip out bench press.
- 15:24So it, I don't know.
- 15:26Cause that's what,
- 15:27like that's what a fib
- 15:28affected the most was my lungs.
- 15:31And there was like a backup
- 15:33of blood in the heart and lungs.
- 15:35So I think that just hasn't
- 15:36fully flushed out yet, but, but I just,
- 15:43so I just did sitting a strict press.
- 15:49So I could just keep moving,
- 15:51same or similar stimulus,
- 15:55and just kept moving.
- 15:58So do we want to get into
- 16:01the news of the week?
- 16:03Yeah, let's hit it.
- 16:04We've already hit the
- 16:05Carolyn Fifth in the Open official.
- 16:09Hooray.
- 16:10Yay.
- 16:11That's so cool.
- 16:14Crushed it, dude.
- 16:16Then we're going to talk
- 16:17about Grace Walton.
- 16:20And when I talk about this,
- 16:22I want to talk about it in my view,
- 16:24more overarching.
- 16:25So Grace had a video.
- 16:29It was looked at.
- 16:30She was in first place going
- 16:31into video submission.
- 16:34CrossFit looked at it,
- 16:35said in two of her muscle-up reps,
- 16:38her feet rose above the bar height,
- 16:42making them bad reps.
- 16:44Gave her a 12-second penalty.
- 16:47which dropped her from first
- 16:48in the open to second in the open,
- 16:51and basically costing her $5,000.
- 16:53So I have a lot of thoughts about this,
- 16:59but I want to open it to you guys first.
- 17:03So your initial thoughts,
- 17:05the video's out there.
- 17:06I'm going to play it as you guys talk,
- 17:10and I want to hear your reaction to that.
- 17:20I like when I first watched her video,
- 17:23like on the games website,
- 17:26like I was normally, I just looked at,
- 17:28like, I won't even watch the whole video.
- 17:30I'll watch the beginning of it.
- 17:32Sometimes just,
- 17:33I want to see just people move.
- 17:35And I was like, Oh, she moves.
- 17:36Well, it looks legit.
- 17:37Like it's, it's good.
- 17:38Right?
- 17:38Like you just kind of look.
- 17:39And then I tend to always go
- 17:41fast forward to the end.
- 17:43And then I look at the time
- 17:44to see whether like it was
- 17:45an accurate finish and
- 17:46whether they tried to sneak
- 17:47in a second or something.
- 17:48I don't know.
- 17:48Like, that's just my,
- 17:49my tendency.
- 17:51So when I first watched the video,
- 17:52I did notice right away
- 17:54that the feet were up on the last rep.
- 17:56And then I fast forwarded again.
- 17:58I was like, Oh,
- 17:58let me see how it is under like fatigue,
- 18:00whether it changed
- 18:00throughout the workout.
- 18:02And I, like,
- 18:03I noticed the last three of
- 18:05the last four reps were high,
- 18:07but I didn't have like a
- 18:09huge problem because I was like, Oh,
- 18:11she's legit.
- 18:11Like she's posted all her videos.
- 18:13Like she moves very well.
- 18:15She's fit everything.
- 18:17Um,
- 18:19It could be the angle.
- 18:21It does look above the bar,
- 18:23definitely from what I see.
- 18:27But it's just unfortunate
- 18:29because if you look at her original score,
- 18:32like it was like 930 or
- 18:34something like that.
- 18:35And if they're not looking at,
- 18:38so now it's like a 942 and
- 18:40there's a bunch of people
- 18:41in that like 930 range, like maybe like,
- 18:43I don't know, seven to 10.
- 18:45But if they're not looking
- 18:46at those videos as well,
- 18:49that's the issue because
- 18:50maybe some of those people
- 18:52would have their feet up a
- 18:53little bit and then she can
- 18:54still stay at in first place.
- 18:58Right.
- 18:58Like if you're only looking at those ones.
- 19:02Yeah.
- 19:03It's just, it's unfortunate for her.
- 19:05It's kind of like,
- 19:06what's this like that one, right.
- 19:07That's above.
- 19:10That's good.
- 19:10The one foot maybe.
- 19:14And then wait, not that one.
- 19:20Yeah, that one was.
- 19:22Yeah.
- 19:24And I think she has two more
- 19:25left or three more left.
- 19:27So that one's the one that I
- 19:28would say is a no rep.
- 19:30Just looking, I mean,
- 19:31from that angle anyways.
- 19:34This one's good.
- 19:39Oh,
- 19:40it's it's above the line of that angle.
- 19:42That was her over.
- 19:43Yep.
- 19:46Like it, but again,
- 19:48my perspective was like, oh,
- 19:49she moves well.
- 19:50Like I'm, I was fine with it.
- 19:51Cause I'm like, she's legit.
- 19:52Like she's fit.
- 19:53Like I had no problem with her winning.
- 19:54Like I was like, I was like,
- 19:56it's not like there was that many reps.
- 19:57It was like three reps.
- 19:59And I was like, eh, that was my,
- 20:02that was my initial reaction.
- 20:03I was like, eh, okay.
- 20:05Like, it's not, it wasn't like that bad.
- 20:08Like it's like every bar
- 20:09muscle up was a glide.
- 20:11That was right.
- 20:12I threw Lex's comment up
- 20:13there because you were saying that,
- 20:15Carolyn, through your argument.
- 20:17So I just was putting it up
- 20:18there as additional in your favor.
- 20:23Jamie, any comments?
- 20:25I mean, I just, for one,
- 20:26I don't know why they
- 20:27changed the wording in the
- 20:28rule this year.
- 20:29And I think that's getting a lot of talk.
- 20:33Like,
- 20:33so is it no longer any part of the
- 20:36foot of any,
- 20:38even one foot can't rise
- 20:39above the bar anymore?
- 20:40Like,
- 20:41that would have been pretty clear
- 20:42last year.
- 20:43Like,
- 20:43the way it was worded last year was
- 20:45if her toe would have...
- 20:47One toe would have popped
- 20:50up in front of... Higher than the bar,
- 20:52it's a no rep.
- 20:53And this one is, like, kind of subjective.
- 20:56They didn't do themselves
- 20:56any favor with the picture.
- 20:58Like, is it both feet and both heels?
- 21:01The entire foot?
- 21:02No idea.
- 21:02I...
- 21:05I just going off of history
- 21:07of the bar muscle up,
- 21:08like know what I think, but I, I mean,
- 21:12I feel like there's a little bit of, um,
- 21:15room for dispute there on
- 21:16her behalf because they
- 21:17went and changed the rule
- 21:19and showed a picture that I
- 21:20don't know if they can
- 21:21definitively say that both
- 21:22of her feet were heels over the bar.
- 21:26So I think that was maybe
- 21:28not in their best interest.
- 21:30Um,
- 21:31And Ken's comment here is hilarious.
- 21:33I hear they give less of a
- 21:35penalty for not submitting a video.
- 21:39It's, it is so, it is so unfair.
- 21:42Like the tutor getting his huge penalty.
- 21:47And you know, darn well,
- 21:49there are people moving way
- 21:51worse than this that are
- 21:53not getting any type of repercussion.
- 21:57So it's like,
- 21:58I totally agree with Carolyn.
- 22:00Like it wasn't egregious.
- 22:02It wasn't throughout her whole workout.
- 22:04Like I, we watched,
- 22:05I watched this original and I was like,
- 22:06yeah, she moves pretty well.
- 22:08And yeah,
- 22:08there's a couple there that are like
- 22:11little bit questionable, but man,
- 22:13I saw so many, you know, like you,
- 22:15you as a CrossFitter see it,
- 22:17you see those glide kips and you're like,
- 22:19well,
- 22:19that's clearly all that person can do.
- 22:21And that's how they're
- 22:21getting all these reps.
- 22:23Um, if she would have had an eight,
- 22:2510 score,
- 22:25it would have been probably like,
- 22:27even like Carolyn and I
- 22:29probably would both be like, man,
- 22:30I don't know, but it wasn't like this,
- 22:32like top five in the world score.
- 22:35Like she didn't, I don't know.
- 22:39My problem with it is the angle.
- 22:44Yeah.
- 22:44Right.
- 22:44I mean,
- 22:45The angle is the camera is
- 22:47below the bar with an up angle to her.
- 22:52So if you're close,
- 22:54it's going to look like
- 22:55it's over because the depth
- 22:59of field will have the foot
- 23:01larger than the bar.
- 23:02Therefore,
- 23:03it looks like it's going to be over.
- 23:06And from that distance,
- 23:08there's no way to know.
- 23:11so for crossfit to make
- 23:12these definitive penalties
- 23:15against her and tutor and
- 23:18again let the video the
- 23:19person that didn't even
- 23:20submit a video win her
- 23:23event it just seems like
- 23:26they're they're picking who
- 23:28they want to receive the penalty
- 23:32Yeah.
- 23:33And like Jamie said, with the feet,
- 23:34like they had the same type
- 23:35of wording last year with the V-ups,
- 23:37right?
- 23:37It was like, wasn't it feet?
- 23:39And it was like, what part of the foot?
- 23:40Like the toes were all of a
- 23:41sudden the feet.
- 23:42So on the bar muscle,
- 23:43are we still considering
- 23:44that the same thing as the
- 23:45last year's V-up work?
- 23:47I mean, the toes are part of the feet.
- 23:51I've always known the feet,
- 23:53the toes cannot go above the bar.
- 23:56That's how I judge people as well.
- 23:59And then you have to kind of
- 24:03give benefit of the doubt
- 24:05technically to a certified
- 24:06judge that is right there
- 24:08at that angle watching that.
- 24:12Look where he's standing.
- 24:13right?
- 24:14Like he's on the side.
- 24:15He is literally.
- 24:17So you have,
- 24:17you have to kind of give
- 24:18benefit of the doubt.
- 24:19If it's an unsure angle,
- 24:21he is literally holding onto the bar,
- 24:23the rig to look right where
- 24:26he needs to look.
- 24:28And we have Andrew Stan,
- 24:30who is a high end judge.
- 24:34Like it, it is close, but again, he's,
- 24:37he agrees with me,
- 24:38the angle and the distance.
- 24:40I don't think you call them
- 24:41no reps because,
- 24:42But CrossFit does say, if in doubt,
- 24:45you no rep them.
- 24:47Right.
- 24:48But they say that in this case,
- 24:51but they didn't... There
- 24:53were so many videos that
- 24:54didn't even get looked at.
- 24:55It could have affected who won the Open.
- 24:59Like,
- 24:59even if she got that 12-second penalty,
- 25:02she could have still won
- 25:03had they continued down.
- 25:06Between her score and her new score,
- 25:09if they looked at any of
- 25:10those girls' videos...
- 25:14And those girls get bumped out?
- 25:15What does she need for points?
- 25:17Not that many points, right?
- 25:18That she needed to... Four or something?
- 25:22Yeah,
- 25:23so she needed four people to get
- 25:24penalties.
- 25:25Well,
- 25:25she would have lost the tiebreaker
- 25:27to... Okay, so five.
- 25:29So five points that she would have needed.
- 25:34Yeah.
- 25:36And I think it was Lex that said in here,
- 25:39conspiracy theory,
- 25:40CrossFit didn't want her to
- 25:41win because she doesn't go
- 25:43to an affiliate.
- 25:47That does make sense, right?
- 25:49It's like,
- 25:50go to an affiliate where you get
- 25:51your certified judge.
- 25:53I mean,
- 25:54you can still have a certified
- 25:54judge if you're not an affiliate,
- 25:55but... Yeah,
- 25:58I kind of even like that worse.
- 26:01That's encouraging, the no video.
- 26:06I don't love that.
- 26:08It's always been one of my
- 26:09biggest things with one of
- 26:11my beefs with the open and
- 26:13CrossFit and just show up
- 26:15at an affiliate and
- 26:17any someone's in a validate your score.
- 26:19Like that person did not watch my video.
- 26:24Like,
- 26:24I almost feel like the judge that
- 26:26judged you needs a
- 26:28secondary approval link.
- 26:31Then the,
- 26:32the affiliate manager maybe can
- 26:33go through those.
- 26:34Maybe they have the sheets, but like,
- 26:36I want to know if I judged
- 26:37you that you didn't write
- 26:381121 instead of 10, instead of 1221.
- 26:40Yeah.
- 26:40Yeah, exactly.
- 26:41Yeah.
- 26:46So like if I if you're
- 26:48putting me as a judge,
- 26:49I want to be able to click
- 26:50off on it and be like, yup,
- 26:51I did judge that.
- 26:53And that was their time.
- 26:54And that way you're not
- 26:55getting people just putting
- 26:57any judge down.
- 27:00And then it's just because
- 27:01just to say that the
- 27:02affiliate manager is like
- 27:05they are not there watching
- 27:07every single person go.
- 27:09And I bet you most of them
- 27:11don't keep their sheet,
- 27:12everyone's sheet and like
- 27:14confirm that what the time
- 27:15that they entered was correct.
- 27:16Because there's a ton on
- 27:17there that have tie break
- 27:19times that are inconceivable.
- 27:21Did the affiliate manager decline those?
- 27:23No, they just went through and approved.
- 27:24They went check, check, check, check,
- 27:25check, check all in.
- 27:29I think that's a good point though, Jamie,
- 27:31where it's like, you can judge someone,
- 27:33you can write your judge,
- 27:34like you can sign the scorecard,
- 27:36but that person's still
- 27:37writing in their score.
- 27:39in the CrossFit Games
- 27:42website and you don't know
- 27:43whether they made a mistake
- 27:45and then they have your name as a judge,
- 27:46but they could shave off a
- 27:48few seconds or whatever.
- 27:50You have no idea.
- 27:52So having that,
- 27:53you would get a
- 27:54notification of all the
- 27:55people you judged and then
- 27:56you would be like, yes, yes, yes, yes,
- 27:58or something.
- 27:59Could be.
- 28:01I mean, theoretically,
- 28:01that's the two pieces of the sheet,
- 28:04right?
- 28:04The affiliate manager gets
- 28:06the one that the judge filled out.
- 28:09and goes right to the
- 28:09affiliate manager to be able to compare,
- 28:11that's trusting the
- 28:14affiliate manager that
- 28:15they're going to actually look.
- 28:18There's just so much trust
- 28:19going on in these online
- 28:20competitions in general.
- 28:23Nick makes a great point.
- 28:25I like to pretend it's pro sports.
- 28:27The ref said they're good reps,
- 28:29not enough video evidence
- 28:30to overturn the call, case closed.
- 28:33And I like that too.
- 28:35Yeah.
- 28:37In conjunction with that,
- 28:39if you go to the leaderboard right now,
- 28:41are all three videos of all
- 28:46five of those athletes visible?
- 28:47Because if I was Grace,
- 28:50I would want to see all my
- 28:52competitors' videos as well.
- 28:55Yeah, for sure.
- 28:56But you're putting me on blast,
- 28:57and I don't even get to see
- 28:59anything else?
- 29:00No.
- 29:02everyone all if like those
- 29:03videos should all just go
- 29:05public so like when I do
- 29:07like uh rogue challenges
- 29:08for instance so you can
- 29:10like hide your video at
- 29:11first when you first submit
- 29:12yeah and then every time
- 29:15they'll always post the
- 29:16videos of the top five
- 29:17people yeah for all the
- 29:19challenges so like you
- 29:21could have put it private
- 29:22but now it's now it's up
- 29:23there if you're in the top
- 29:26I like that that's a good idea
- 29:28The other thing I think that
- 29:29would be a step in the
- 29:30right direction is if
- 29:31you're going to penalize someone,
- 29:33then you make the video
- 29:35public and you say,
- 29:37we're penalizing them for reps 33 and 28.
- 29:41Yep.
- 29:41608.
- 29:41It had an O rep for this.
- 29:46Arbitrary two.
- 29:48And now you go figure it out.
- 29:52And like with Tudor,
- 29:53it was just consistent, consistent,
- 29:56not doing it what the hell
- 29:57does that mean yeah and we
- 30:00never even saw his video to
- 30:02even know what it even
- 30:03looked like right or did we
- 30:04see it somewhere I i don't
- 30:07I never saw him doing it
- 30:08they just gave him like a a
- 30:10huge penalty a 20 percent
- 30:12decrease in his score and
- 30:12we never even saw to what
- 30:14angle did he have
- 30:18Lex says, glad Kip's are slower.
- 30:21This is a dumb penalty anyways.
- 30:23She's not shortening the rep
- 30:24to cheat and be faster.
- 30:29But in under speed,
- 30:31it does give her a bigger boost.
- 30:33It does.
- 30:33She would have had to come down.
- 30:35She maybe would have failed
- 30:36that rep had she not
- 30:37brought her feet that high.
- 30:40I'm not saying the penalty
- 30:42isn't a correct penalty for that
- 30:47I don't know if she should
- 30:48have gotten it per se in this instance,
- 30:50but like, I do think,
- 30:52I do think they need to be
- 30:53stricter with the glide kips either.
- 30:54Like they need to either
- 30:55figure out if they want to
- 30:56just allow them to
- 30:58and this kind of goes back with the,
- 31:00like the V ups or like
- 31:00certain movements where it's like,
- 31:02we're not critiquing how
- 31:03you're doing the movement.
- 31:04We're just, are you getting from, are you,
- 31:07if you do a snatch,
- 31:08are you getting from the
- 31:08ground to overhead?
- 31:10Do we allow this?
- 31:12Cause they sure do.
- 31:13And 55 plus go watch any
- 31:16older person snatch.
- 31:18So like,
- 31:19if you aren't critiquing the movement,
- 31:21then is it just get from
- 31:22point A to point B,
- 31:25then maybe we need to like
- 31:26reconsider how we're,
- 31:28And this is what sucks to my opinion,
- 31:31the rules there,
- 31:33because it's obvious Gracie
- 31:35was not trying to cheat the system.
- 31:38No, if she did it illegally,
- 31:40it was inadvertent.
- 31:42And just the course of her
- 31:43trying to complete the workout.
- 31:46But you do have those people
- 31:47out there that will glide,
- 31:49get the hell out of these
- 31:51to get all of their muscle ups, right?
- 31:54Yes.
- 31:55You don't want them
- 31:57affecting the leaderboard.
- 31:59Right.
- 32:00Right.
- 32:01But then we get to that line of like,
- 32:05is it good?
- 32:05Is it bad?
- 32:06And right when you're right at that line,
- 32:07it's,
- 32:09It makes it rough,
- 32:10and that's where CrossFit
- 32:11has been so behind the
- 32:13curtain about their
- 32:16decisions and what they do
- 32:18that it just leads you to
- 32:19believe they're not doing
- 32:22it in the best interest of the athletes.
- 32:28Agreed.
- 32:29I mean, yeah,
- 32:31I think it needs to be more –
- 32:34more clear cut.
- 32:35They need to be more
- 32:36transparent if they want it
- 32:38to trickle down the correct way.
- 32:40Um, and then they aren't.
- 32:44Yeah.
- 32:44I'm just asking for transparency.
- 32:48Just tell me what reps.
- 32:50You only had 10 people to look at.
- 32:53You could tell me what reps you don't.
- 32:56Because you know like Boz is
- 32:59sitting there going,
- 33:00check mark on that one, X on this one.
- 33:04And he could tell you 33 and 28.
- 33:05They would have had to have
- 33:09had multiple judges overturn that.
- 33:12They're not just going to go
- 33:13off one judge.
- 33:14Well, do we know that?
- 33:15Is that the rule?
- 33:17Normally, yeah.
- 33:18I would say, yeah.
- 33:19I think they said that
- 33:20multiple judges would review.
- 33:22Dave Eubanks, I think,
- 33:23on a podcast before said
- 33:25that one person will review it,
- 33:27then it goes to the team
- 33:28where then they kind of
- 33:29make a decision or something like that.
- 33:30So I know that's at his
- 33:32quarterfinals and on.
- 33:33Because that's when the team
- 33:36that they've hired starts
- 33:38at quarterfinals.
- 33:40then that team is like the
- 33:41first level they make
- 33:43recommendations up then the
- 33:44next level finishes them
- 33:46off none of that has been
- 33:47said for the open there is
- 33:50no team reviewing this
- 33:51initially other than the
- 33:53main crossfit hq I would
- 33:58assume more than one person
- 33:59looked at it and they
- 33:59agreed I mean I i can't
- 34:01imagine one person made
- 34:02this decision I was like nope
- 34:05I mean, I would,
- 34:06if I was going to make that final call,
- 34:07I'd be like, hey, anyone else agree,
- 34:10disagree?
- 34:13Wadzami here says, if we're trusting Emily,
- 34:15Klaus, Judge, why not Gracie's?
- 34:17Well, that goes, and Lex says,
- 34:20because Grace is not at an affiliate.
- 34:23So we just,
- 34:23we give all trust to affiliates.
- 34:26We're trusting Emily.
- 34:28We don't care about Emily's
- 34:29because she now just
- 34:31doesn't get the money.
- 34:32These ones were for money.
- 34:38She could have maybe kept her first place,
- 34:39but then just doesn't get money.
- 34:43All right.
- 34:44If she doesn't send her video.
- 34:47As long as CrossFit exists,
- 34:49we'll have these questions.
- 34:51Just like in the NFL,
- 34:52everybody rips the referees.
- 34:56I think it happened,
- 34:58but wasn't everybody upset
- 34:59the other night at the
- 35:00officiating and the Iowa game, Carolyn?
- 35:04That Caitlin got some calls?
- 35:0635 or something like 30 to
- 35:08like five free throws or something.
- 35:11Yeah, it was definitely one way.
- 35:15So we want to talk about
- 35:17Carolyn on Beyond the Whiteboard.
- 35:20Not Beyond the Whiteboard.
- 35:21Around the Whiteboard.
- 35:23Sponsored by Beyond the Whiteboard.
- 35:27so what was the experience like?
- 35:29Any, when, when you get in there,
- 35:31are you done?
- 35:32Is anything done ahead of
- 35:33time or do we see,
- 35:35I got the questions the day before, like,
- 35:38um, Peter sent them to me on my Instagram,
- 35:41Pedro for how you guys, his name's Peter,
- 35:43but, um, he sent the questions,
- 35:46Peter for a lot longer, um, on Instagram.
- 35:49So then I looked over them,
- 35:51Lex and I had discussions
- 35:52about each question, um,
- 35:55on what points we thought were important.
- 35:58And then I had like backup
- 35:59stuff in case things were already taken,
- 36:02essentially.
- 36:02It was good.
- 36:05It was, I mean,
- 36:07Lex was like putting
- 36:08pressure on me to make sure
- 36:10that I don't get muted
- 36:11because I can ramble sometimes.
- 36:14Well, she's like,
- 36:14you need to watch the clock
- 36:16and not talk for too much
- 36:18and get your points across.
- 36:20So I tried doing that.
- 36:21And then I was on time for
- 36:22all of my one minutes.
- 36:24And then even the 20 seconds,
- 36:25I never got muted.
- 36:27So my opinion for the
- 36:27quality of answers given you by far,
- 36:29weren't stuck to the
- 36:29question and answered the
- 36:30question the best.
- 36:48I thought so too,
- 36:50but Lex told me I was too boring.
- 36:53She goes, you're too boring.
- 36:55Colton's funny.
- 36:56So he's going to get some points.
- 36:58So I understood her point of view.
- 37:01But I did think my questions
- 37:03or my answers had more material,
- 37:06but Lex just wants to, what'd she say?
- 37:10Add some personality.
- 37:11No,
- 37:11I think her exact words were probably I
- 37:13was boring.
- 37:15She's like,
- 37:15you need to swear or something.
- 37:20Yeah, that's not genuine for everybody.
- 37:22I liked listening to you.
- 37:24I don't need to hear Colton
- 37:28say that that's a terrible question.
- 37:29I don't know.
- 37:31It's not a...
- 37:33I guess what's the point of his show?
- 37:34Are we actually discussing
- 37:36the topics and giving
- 37:37answers or are we just
- 37:39trying to be snarky?
- 37:40Most of the questions were kind of,
- 37:42there wasn't many like two sides, right?
- 37:44There are kind of obvious answers.
- 37:47So I think that's why we
- 37:48didn't have as much kind of
- 37:50like banter because you
- 37:52couldn't really be like, no,
- 37:53I disagree with that.
- 37:54I actually think this, right?
- 37:56If you had some of the questions that were
- 37:59a little bit more
- 38:02controversial or just more
- 38:03opinionated on two sides,
- 38:05it would have been more interesting.
- 38:08Even in the rebuttals in the 20 seconds,
- 38:10you could have been
- 38:11disagreeing a little bit more.
- 38:13But when I looked at the questions,
- 38:15I thought there was clear,
- 38:17obvious answers to me anyways.
- 38:19And it seemed like the other two,
- 38:22Ant and Colton, thought so as well.
- 38:27Yeah.
- 38:27It's,
- 38:27it's gotta be tough because we're not
- 38:32in the most exciting time of the season,
- 38:36right?
- 38:36Like you guys got the draw
- 38:38in between the open and quarters.
- 38:40There's not a whole lot to talk about.
- 38:43And when you have three athletes on,
- 38:44I don't think affiliate
- 38:46type questions are the best
- 38:48questions to ask.
- 38:50No, and that's what I had told Lex.
- 38:52I was like,
- 38:52I don't think they'll ask
- 38:53anything about affiliates
- 38:54because I don't think, I mean,
- 38:56but Anson affiliate owner, he said.
- 38:59I mean, technically,
- 39:00so am I. It's for the views.
- 39:05This is Lex again.
- 39:06Carolyn answers were the
- 39:07best Colton tied because he
- 39:09was sassy with pizzazz.
- 39:11It's true.
- 39:13He could have won just with
- 39:14his last answer.
- 39:16Not even answer,
- 39:17but his last comment on Max
- 39:22and Training Think Tub and
- 39:24all that stuff.
- 39:24I have that pulled up.
- 39:25Oh, my gosh.
- 39:27Because I don't know if you guys saw,
- 39:29but from that,
- 39:31there's now a one-on-one
- 39:32competition happening in a week or so.
- 39:36Did you see that Max changed
- 39:37his profile bio on Instagram also?
- 39:40I did not.
- 39:42You have to go to his
- 39:43profile as well and look at
- 39:44the bio that he put on his account.
- 39:50Okay.
- 39:50I'll do that after we play
- 39:52Colton's response.
- 39:57It's 30 seconds.
- 39:59Yeah.
- 40:02I have a question.
- 40:03I have a question for you.
- 40:04Okay.
- 40:05Are you having Max Ohag on tomorrow?
- 40:09Yes.
- 40:11Why?
- 40:11Why?
- 40:13why max el hag over the
- 40:16training think tub those
- 40:17guys they're an abomination
- 40:19to the sport max el hag is
- 40:21an absolute menace they
- 40:23have their own podcast the
- 40:24corpus anus podcast and I
- 40:27heard them say the most
- 40:28ridiculous things like uh
- 40:30like the jake german is the
- 40:31the best in the burpees at
- 40:33crossfit I just can't
- 40:35believe he was hit they me
- 40:36next to him in a burpee workout
- 40:38I would end this man's life.
- 40:40They should pray that he
- 40:41never has that fate.
- 40:43This is just 30 seconds.
- 40:45Is this what you were going
- 40:46to use your 30 seconds for?
- 40:47Is this your plan?
- 40:50My plan was actually to
- 40:51concede my final minute and
- 40:52just use the whole minute
- 40:54to say it because I didn't
- 40:54think I was going to win.
- 40:58Beautiful.
- 41:01When I first met Colton,
- 41:03we did his first ever podcast.
- 41:05We couldn't get him to say three words.
- 41:09he's bought into this um to
- 41:12this new not new person
- 41:14maybe maybe it's been his
- 41:15personality the whole time
- 41:16or or he's you know it's
- 41:18working for his image and
- 41:19sponsorships and stuff like
- 41:20that and he's just kind of
- 41:22running with it and I think
- 41:22that's it's helping his
- 41:24brand like he's that's how
- 41:25he's branding himself it's
- 41:26great well and he did he
- 41:28does make a point like in
- 41:29one of his answers like the
- 41:31key to this whole thing is
- 41:32being authentic
- 41:34Like,
- 41:35don't just clam up and answer what
- 41:37you think people want to
- 41:37hear when you do interviews.
- 41:40Be authentic.
- 41:43And apparently it's working for him.
- 41:45Like,
- 41:45he's getting more sponsors than many
- 41:48of the top 10 athletes.
- 41:51He's become a legend with
- 41:54his remarks and his background story.
- 41:58You know, the pig farmer from Iowa.
- 42:01And he wins workouts.
- 42:05Yeah.
- 42:07So from this, um, uh, let me, let me go to,
- 42:13so Jake Berman actually
- 42:14posted on Instagram Colton
- 42:17set up for bar facing burpees,
- 42:19which had like a two and a
- 42:20half change plate on each
- 42:22side of the bar.
- 42:22I did see that.
- 42:26And so that went back and forth.
- 42:28And now, I think it's next week.
- 42:32Next Wednesday.
- 42:33Yeah.
- 42:33Barbell spin is going to air.
- 42:36100 burpees.
- 42:37100 burpees for time.
- 42:39Bar facing.
- 42:40Yes.
- 42:41Between Colton Mertens and Jake Berman.
- 42:44We need more of this.
- 42:45We need as much of this as
- 42:47people will put out.
- 42:49It's only going to help the
- 42:50athletes get more exposure.
- 42:53And it entertains us all.
- 42:55You know,
- 42:56Wads all made a great idea with Fit Wars.
- 42:59We just got to keep it going.
- 43:02And we've seen with Taylor
- 43:04versus the world and now this,
- 43:07like people get excited over this.
- 43:10Reps on reps or whatever
- 43:11it's called or something
- 43:12that's coming up.
- 43:13Reps ahead.
- 43:13Reps ahead.
- 43:14That's another type of
- 43:15one-on-one matchup stuff.
- 43:18You got to go, Scott, to Max's Instagram.
- 43:22I don't know if it's still there.
- 43:23I'm heading there.
- 43:26I have to see.
- 43:26I think it was there earlier.
- 43:30I like when people lean into stuff.
- 43:32He leaned into it.
- 43:33Oh, he switched it.
- 43:36Okay.
- 43:39Okay, but if you go to his story,
- 43:40go to his story.
- 43:41He had put it on his story.
- 43:45Why isn't... Is AL right?
- 43:48Max AL.
- 43:50EL.
- 43:51Max space EL.
- 43:54All together for his Instagram.
- 43:56Yeah.
- 43:58Okay, I got it.
- 44:00It would be on his story.
- 44:02Because he switched his,
- 44:03he re-switched his bio.
- 44:07Okay.
- 44:09I don't know if you can zoom in.
- 44:17Yeah.
- 44:19Coach fitness number one menace,
- 44:21brewing people in the think
- 44:23tank tub like Jake Berman
- 44:25who have the fastest burpees in the game.
- 44:27That's great.
- 44:31All of this is brilliant.
- 44:35Brilliant to grow the sport.
- 44:40The trash talking, the back and forth.
- 44:44Now we're going to have it
- 44:44out on the floor.
- 44:45I think it's going to be great.
- 44:49Predictions?
- 44:52I think Colton's going to win.
- 44:53Oh, Colton.
- 44:55I think it's going to be close, though.
- 44:56Jake is extremely fast,
- 44:58but he's no Colton.
- 44:59Colton's... There's only one.
- 45:03There's no one beating him in that stuff.
- 45:07Like, he's literally the best.
- 45:09He's the best,
- 45:10and he's the guy that's
- 45:11willing to die for the reps.
- 45:18It's funny because my mom's
- 45:19in the background,
- 45:19send down the odd time.
- 45:20She'll be like, yeah, he's the best.
- 45:21And like chimes in a little
- 45:23bit on some of the responses.
- 45:25My mom's into this chat right now.
- 45:29Awesome.
- 45:30So super stoked about that.
- 45:33Um, and, uh, yeah,
- 45:37so super happy about that.
- 45:40Next up on the agenda, uh,
- 45:41did everybody get a chance
- 45:42to see the Danielle Brandon documentary?
- 45:46Sure did.
- 45:47thoughts it was good yeah I
- 45:54loved it I i don't know
- 45:55much about her background
- 45:57um so I got to I was very
- 45:59impressed just like
- 46:01athletically like what she
- 46:03did growing up and how
- 46:04sports was her coping
- 46:05mechanism for the crazy
- 46:08stuff that was going on at
- 46:09home and just to see how
- 46:10she turned out like it just
- 46:12it gives you a different perspective on,
- 46:15um, other people's lives.
- 46:17And like, it's just, yeah, just,
- 46:20you got to see a side of her that like,
- 46:22cause I,
- 46:23I know her like when I compete
- 46:24against her, but I don't know her.
- 46:26Right.
- 46:26So, um, I like, I really enjoyed it.
- 46:29It was really, really good.
- 46:33I, while watching it, like I was,
- 46:35I was very curious to hear her background,
- 46:38um, like how she grew up and stuff,
- 46:40but I,
- 46:41When Savan called Taylor and
- 46:44Taylor commented that there
- 46:47was one thing that soured it for him,
- 46:49I immediately like were on
- 46:51the couch and I was like,
- 46:52guarantee he says Cooper Marsh.
- 46:54Taylor was like Cooper Marsh
- 46:55when he said the flipping the birds.
- 46:57I had the exact same reaction watching it.
- 47:00And that like when I finished,
- 47:01I was just like.
- 47:03The whole like not the whole thing,
- 47:06but like it feels a bit scripted.
- 47:09And the big thing is like she's genuine.
- 47:11And even Dave says that like
- 47:13you just need to be genuine.
- 47:14But like I have this other
- 47:18like niggling question, like,
- 47:21is it a little bit scripted?
- 47:23Like.
- 47:25I mean, to me, it's like Cooper, like,
- 47:27told her to do that.
- 47:28So she did it.
- 47:29And he knew exactly what
- 47:30that was going to do in that situation.
- 47:33Like, he's a great agent for a reason.
- 47:36And he has taken her very far.
- 47:38So I don't know.
- 47:40Maybe that's just my, like,
- 47:44the way my brain works.
- 47:46But that was my immediately thought.
- 47:48And when Savant called
- 47:49Taylor and Taylor said that, I was like,
- 47:51that was exactly how I felt watching it.
- 47:55so okay so I thought the
- 47:59background story was a 10
- 48:01out of 10. everything about
- 48:04how she grew up the stuff
- 48:06she had to deal with all of
- 48:08like the fbi the jails the
- 48:11the the drugs the yeah the
- 48:15like stealing that stuff
- 48:17from her mom and disposing
- 48:19of it as as a child like
- 48:23the relationship with her
- 48:24brother and what happened
- 48:26when she had to get out of the house,
- 48:28like that broke my heart.
- 48:29Yeah.
- 48:31All of that.
- 48:3210 out of 10.
- 48:33Yeah.
- 48:34Yeah.
- 48:35That helped her out.
- 48:37They got her,
- 48:38made sure she saw that she
- 48:40had an opportunity to go to
- 48:41college fully paid, like,
- 48:45and made sure that happened.
- 48:46Like the,
- 48:47the family that bought her a computer,
- 48:49the,
- 48:49like all of that stuff was so
- 48:52freaking cool.
- 48:55when we get to the CrossFit stuff,
- 48:56I knew most of like her journey.
- 49:01Again, since I started this podcast,
- 49:04we've been trying to follow
- 49:05people before they were famous.
- 49:07So I knew her before mayhem
- 49:10when they said in the movie,
- 49:11like nobody knew who she
- 49:12was till after the mayhem classic,
- 49:14we've been following her
- 49:15for a little bit before then.
- 49:17So I knew all of that stuff.
- 49:20The part where it goes off
- 49:21the rails for me a little
- 49:22bit is the underdog story.
- 49:25And I don't know if it's how
- 49:27close I am with Justin that
- 49:31it just irked me.
- 49:33And the person who irked me was Cooper.
- 49:36It wasn't Danielle.
- 49:39It was him sitting off to the side saying,
- 49:41they just need to have an
- 49:42adult conversation.
- 49:45And I'm just thinking, like,
- 49:47I'm sure that was tried.
- 49:49this wasn't a one time deal
- 49:51that made this happen.
- 49:55And, and they did kind of talk about that,
- 49:57but Cooper kind of just
- 49:58made it all this moot point
- 50:01and they were just being immature.
- 50:05So like, and I like Cooper,
- 50:08like I've gotten along with Cooper a lot,
- 50:10but this did nothing for me
- 50:14and my viewpoint of Cooper to,
- 50:18Yeah, because he just basically says,
- 50:20I don't think she should
- 50:21have been let go.
- 50:22And that quote, Cotler, was wrong.
- 50:26Lex.
- 50:28But it made me sensitive towards Cotler,
- 50:31though.
- 50:32You can see how much Cotler
- 50:36has so much passion for his athletes.
- 50:38The way he supports his
- 50:39athletes is amazing.
- 50:41is crazy right like everyone
- 50:42from the outside just sees
- 50:43it it's like I i felt for
- 50:45him because it kind of it
- 50:47kind of made it look like
- 50:49he threw her under the bus
- 50:50right before the games
- 50:51which I mean technically
- 50:53yes right like but like she
- 50:56had like kicked her out but
- 50:57there's other I feel like
- 50:58there's a lot left out and
- 51:00we're seeing the one side a
- 51:02little bit more or I mean I don't know
- 51:05So that was the other thing.
- 51:06Like the Mac ended and she says,
- 51:08and I went back and just
- 51:10was sitting by the pool and I get fired.
- 51:13It was a month later that she got fired.
- 51:17And there were other things
- 51:18that happened in that month
- 51:20for that to happen.
- 51:23To glance,
- 51:25gloss over it like that was just,
- 51:28and there's Justin like
- 51:30giving out his heart and
- 51:31soul and saying how much it
- 51:33hurt him and how much
- 51:34affection he has for her to this day.
- 51:38Like that was,
- 51:40that was tough for me
- 51:41because that's my friend.
- 51:43And I know,
- 51:44I know how he felt about her
- 51:46and he talked about it all the time.
- 51:49that he wanted her to win
- 51:50the games and thought she
- 51:52had every bit of talent to do so.
- 51:57He was nonstop talking about her.
- 52:00At the Mac, his passion in the stands,
- 52:04everything, you're like, wow.
- 52:07Not only is Danielle such a
- 52:08talented person,
- 52:10athlete and fit athlete but
- 52:12she now has the support and
- 52:13the coach and like you knew
- 52:15she had a rough background
- 52:16that it was almost like a
- 52:17father figure from the
- 52:19outside right like it was
- 52:21like now she can actually
- 52:22go and win the games
- 52:23because she has someone
- 52:23that's believing in her
- 52:24when maybe she doesn't
- 52:26always believe in herself
- 52:27right and that's that's the
- 52:28kind of like relationship
- 52:29you saw from the outside
- 52:31She said that in the doc herself,
- 52:32that he was like a father figure.
- 52:34Yeah.
- 52:35So that, like,
- 52:36I wasn't upset at the way
- 52:37what Danielle had said.
- 52:38No.
- 52:39There are hurt feelings
- 52:40there that I am hoping
- 52:42someday the two of them can
- 52:43come together and build a bridge back.
- 52:47But, man, the way Cooper dealt with it,
- 52:49it just upset me.
- 52:53Yeah, I agree.
- 52:54Well,
- 52:54and Elise says it sounded like it was
- 52:58either he let one athlete
- 52:59go or lose multiple.
- 53:00Is Cooper not an agent for
- 53:03any one of those other, like,
- 53:0410 athletes that were
- 53:06underdogs at that time?
- 53:07Because he had to have had
- 53:09responses from those
- 53:10coaches and athletes who
- 53:12had told Kotler they were
- 53:14going to pull out.
- 53:16And she was kind of already
- 53:18on the outs of that, like, leaving that –
- 53:20Camp?
- 53:21Well, moving.
- 53:22Moving, so not being there.
- 53:23If you remember the next season,
- 53:25she had hurt her back.
- 53:29Yes.
- 53:29Couldn't open.
- 53:30And I think she had already
- 53:31moved to... And she was getting married.
- 53:34Yeah.
- 53:38Yeah.
- 53:40So he didn't have any direct
- 53:41contact with... I mean,
- 53:43who all was there?
- 53:45annika kyra um alex yeah
- 53:51delugos um there was I mean
- 53:54there was a lot probably
- 53:55like started yeah I'm sure
- 53:58it was the girls more than
- 53:59anything but you like at
- 54:03some point cooper's got to
- 54:05take a business look at
- 54:07that from kotler's side and be like
- 54:11I mean, yeah, like he can't lose the other,
- 54:15even like she might be
- 54:16great and she might be
- 54:18great for the sport and your brand.
- 54:19But like, if,
- 54:21if it's going to stop anyone
- 54:23else from coming there,
- 54:24how great in the end is it going to be?
- 54:28And you would think as a, like,
- 54:30I under like,
- 54:31and I understand he like
- 54:32really wants to have her back.
- 54:33Like,
- 54:34I'm glad she has someone in her life
- 54:36still that's like continues
- 54:37to support her the way he seems to be.
- 54:39But yeah,
- 54:41If she watches that back and
- 54:42can't see the love from Justin still,
- 54:45that's sad.
- 54:47I think she will as well.
- 54:50If you watch the Lauren
- 54:51interview with Danielle,
- 54:53I would say it's reciprocated from her.
- 54:55Mm-hmm.
- 54:57You could see the emotional.
- 55:00The whole time she was at Brute,
- 55:01she was telling them,
- 55:02you don't care about me like Cutler did.
- 55:04You don't.
- 55:06And she said that flat out
- 55:07in that other interview.
- 55:09Hmm.
- 55:10that she missed the way she
- 55:11was coached by Kotler.
- 55:14And how he believed in her.
- 55:15Nobody believed in me like he did.
- 55:20She kept saying that.
- 55:21And so you can tell on both ends,
- 55:25they still love each other
- 55:27in a way that none of us will ever know,
- 55:30like Coach Athlete.
- 55:32And I'm hoping at some point in time,
- 55:35they can come to a reconciliation.
- 55:37Yeah.
- 55:38That's what that documentary
- 55:39gave me hope for in that
- 55:41underdogs aspect.
- 55:44Well, she's clear.
- 55:45I mean, she's,
- 55:47she's clearly hurting and
- 55:48like has always felt like
- 55:50she's cast aside and not wanted.
- 55:52And like that, I'm,
- 55:53that did nothing for her.
- 55:55I'm sure like that just
- 55:57piled on top of everything
- 55:58else that bad that's
- 55:59happened throughout her life.
- 56:00And I felt for her in that instance,
- 56:01but at some point you also
- 56:04need to look at your actions,
- 56:06mannerisms and how you
- 56:08treat other people and like
- 56:10do some critical thinking there too.
- 56:12Like.
- 56:14Yeah.
- 56:15i agree it was so overall I
- 56:20give the I give the entire
- 56:22documentary probably an
- 56:23eight with the background
- 56:25stuff a 10 the crossfit
- 56:26stuff like a seven six and
- 56:28a half six um and then
- 56:30together like an eight yeah
- 56:32I agree yeah I liked it I
- 56:35just thought like the
- 56:36timing of it was
- 56:37interesting it's like
- 56:37middle of the season like I don't
- 56:40like uh wasn't sure on the
- 56:42timing of it and then they
- 56:43didn't go much into like
- 56:45the after like brew like a
- 56:48little bit with dallin but
- 56:49kind of like where she is
- 56:51now by name I agreed no
- 56:54mention of of matt no there
- 56:57was no there was no mention
- 56:58of that not once it was
- 56:59dallin yeah I thought that
- 57:02was strange so I don't know
- 57:04what's going on there um
- 57:07maybe that's the sequel
- 57:10But for timing-wise,
- 57:12and I was watching Spin last night,
- 57:16it makes perfect sense to me.
- 57:18This is the boring time of
- 57:20the season with no good content.
- 57:23If you can put out good content now,
- 57:25people will flock to it.
- 57:28And when I checked when I
- 57:30woke up this morning,
- 57:31it had like 38,000 views already.
- 57:35And I'm sure it's piled them on today.
- 57:38Yeah,
- 57:39and I guess now people will be
- 57:40rooting for her even more so.
- 57:41I mean,
- 57:42she's probably one of the most
- 57:43popular athletes anyways,
- 57:45but I'm sure they're behind
- 57:46her even more and have a
- 57:49better understanding.
- 57:50I hope the reason behind it
- 57:52is what she said,
- 57:53hoping that other people
- 57:54that were in my situation
- 57:56will see this and draw
- 57:58inspiration from it.
- 58:03But when you learn what she
- 58:05went through and kept her grades up,
- 58:09and got a full ride
- 58:10scholarship like that blows
- 58:13me away so yeah and I agree
- 58:22with elise it was probably
- 58:23filmed a while ago they
- 58:29were together at the games
- 58:31and they have a ton of
- 58:32games coverage they were
- 58:33good together at semis
- 58:38What do you mean?
- 58:38Brute?
- 58:42I'm talking timing wise.
- 58:44Oh yeah.
- 58:45Like it,
- 58:46it just was probably was filmed
- 58:47last season.
- 58:49They edited it through the fall.
- 58:51Editing takes a long time.
- 58:52Trust me.
- 58:53Oh, well, I'm just,
- 58:55she said this seemed to end
- 58:57around the time she would
- 58:57have gotten with Matt.
- 58:58And I don't necessarily agree with that.
- 59:00Like,
- 59:00I think there would have been plenty of,
- 59:03she just,
- 59:04I would say she clearly doesn't
- 59:05want any part of her,
- 59:08love life in which I mean
- 59:11makes sense because it's
- 59:12like if you're gonna do a
- 59:13documentary I don't think
- 59:16that I would want like
- 59:18especially if you're not
- 59:18with that person anymore
- 59:19like you don't want to be
- 59:21remembering like that's I
- 59:22want it to be a documentary
- 59:23that you can like look at
- 59:24for the rest of your life
- 59:24and go back to it I don't
- 59:26know and she doesn't want
- 59:27that part and if it's no
- 59:30longer relevant I guess yeah
- 59:35All right, well, let's move on.
- 59:36We're,
- 59:36we're at the hour mark where you
- 59:38need to land this plane.
- 59:40So I wanted to talk quickly
- 59:42about my coach owner of my gym,
- 59:45going to Houston,
- 59:46kicking ass and taking names.
- 59:50christy o'connell goes to
- 59:52houston does a high rocks
- 59:54we all said it on this show
- 59:55before she went she was
- 59:57going to crush it not only
- 59:59did she crush it she had
- 1:00:00one of like the the 62nd
- 1:00:02fastest time ever at a high
- 1:00:05rocks event I think and her
- 1:00:06first ever one
- 1:00:09And like she said that like
- 1:00:10she didn't even know she
- 1:00:11didn't even know like the
- 1:00:12order of the stuff.
- 1:00:13She didn't even know like
- 1:00:14where to go for transitions.
- 1:00:16Like if she actually like
- 1:00:17like this was like her test,
- 1:00:18her first full test run of
- 1:00:21what the hell this thing is about.
- 1:00:23Like you're you're shaving a
- 1:00:26lot of seconds if you
- 1:00:27actually know where you're
- 1:00:28going and how the routes are, you know.
- 1:00:31Like she can only go up, I think,
- 1:00:33from here.
- 1:00:34In an hour and four minutes
- 1:00:36and some change.
- 1:00:38The fastest in the world, I think,
- 1:00:39is 58 minutes.
- 1:00:41Yeah, that girl's a beast.
- 1:00:43So you're only talking like,
- 1:00:44and that's of all time.
- 1:00:45Not this year.
- 1:00:47That is of all time.
- 1:00:49And she was a former CrossFitter too.
- 1:00:51Michelle Weeks, right?
- 1:00:52Lauren Weeks.
- 1:00:53Lauren Weeks.
- 1:00:56And that was her first one.
- 1:00:58You know she's shaving time off of it.
- 1:01:01She didn't even know how to
- 1:01:02work the automated wall ball counter.
- 1:01:05I know.
- 1:01:05Did you hear that?
- 1:01:06Yeah, she was over.
- 1:01:07She threw the ball above the counter thing,
- 1:01:10so she was getting no rep for a while.
- 1:01:11I didn't know that was there,
- 1:01:13so I'm glad she pointed
- 1:01:14that out because I would do
- 1:01:15the exact same thing.
- 1:01:17So, yeah.
- 1:01:18So she didn't know any of
- 1:01:19that stuff going in.
- 1:01:22You got to think,
- 1:01:22she takes a couple minutes
- 1:01:24off just knowing what she's doing.
- 1:01:27Mm-hmm.
- 1:01:29So yeah, I'm anxious.
- 1:01:33She's one of the best runners, if not,
- 1:01:36you know,
- 1:01:36top runner that we've had in
- 1:01:38CrossFit consistently,
- 1:01:42basically a top 10 athlete at the games.
- 1:01:46Like she's always been one
- 1:01:47of my favorites to follow.
- 1:01:48I just, I think that she's super talented.
- 1:01:53What I thought was cool in the,
- 1:01:54in her little mini documentary of it is,
- 1:01:57uh,
- 1:01:58these high rocks athletes coming over
- 1:02:00wanting their picture with him,
- 1:02:01that her saying that you're
- 1:02:03an inspiration because
- 1:02:04you're shorter athlete.
- 1:02:05And I look up to you because I,
- 1:02:07I can relate to you.
- 1:02:08I don't know how many people
- 1:02:09have told me on the road, tell Christie,
- 1:02:12she's an inspiration.
- 1:02:13I'm a shorter athlete and
- 1:02:15she's my favorite because of that.
- 1:02:17Like a hundred people have told me that.
- 1:02:21Yeah.
- 1:02:23So super cool.
- 1:02:30Affiliate Town Hall today
- 1:02:31announced some stuff about
- 1:02:32the quarterfinals.
- 1:02:34Sure did.
- 1:02:36No floor plans will be
- 1:02:37released until the workouts are released.
- 1:02:41Yep.
- 1:02:43And there will be four workouts.
- 1:02:46Spin did point out in his
- 1:02:48article that does not say
- 1:02:50only four scored events.
- 1:02:52It only says four workouts.
- 1:02:55Correct.
- 1:02:58So thoughts on that.
- 1:03:00And what I didn't know,
- 1:03:01and maybe this was public
- 1:03:03knowledge before,
- 1:03:03but I saw that there was
- 1:03:04just the two submission windows,
- 1:03:06Saturday and Monday.
- 1:03:08I fully expected it to be the like Friday,
- 1:03:10Saturday window.
- 1:03:12or Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
- 1:03:13like it has been in the past,
- 1:03:16like a 2-2-1 thing.
- 1:03:17But with only the four workouts,
- 1:03:20I guess it sort of makes sense.
- 1:03:22I'm shocked there's only four workouts,
- 1:03:24to be honest.
- 1:03:27Even if there's two two-parters,
- 1:03:29I'm still shocked.
- 1:03:33With that long of a window,
- 1:03:34it almost just gives too much time.
- 1:03:38Agreed.
- 1:03:38That's what I've liked about
- 1:03:40the five workout, six scores type thing.
- 1:03:42Like in four days, like good luck.
- 1:03:44If you redo one of those,
- 1:03:46cause you're going to be hurting and like,
- 1:03:49you gotta be smart about it.
- 1:03:52Like, yeah, I don't want that.
- 1:03:53I want it to be,
- 1:03:54I want it to be like an
- 1:03:55in-person comp as much as possible.
- 1:03:57Here's your, here's your 24 hours.
- 1:03:59Here's the code,
- 1:04:00do the workouts and get in, submit it.
- 1:04:02And then I'll give you the
- 1:04:03code for the next one.
- 1:04:04Cause you can't do it before
- 1:04:05till I give you the code.
- 1:04:06Like I want it to be,
- 1:04:08I want you and I to do
- 1:04:09workout one and two.
- 1:04:11on day one together not you
- 1:04:13get in workout three and
- 1:04:15because that was your
- 1:04:16weakest and then maybe you
- 1:04:17beat me at two because you
- 1:04:19were able to strategize
- 1:04:20something because you're in
- 1:04:22europe and you have 12
- 1:04:22extra hours or something
- 1:04:23before you go to bed like I
- 1:04:24don't want any of that I
- 1:04:26want here's workout one do
- 1:04:28it here's workout two do it
- 1:04:31here's workout three do it
- 1:04:32just like a comp would be
- 1:04:34everyone does in the same order
- 1:04:36One time.
- 1:04:38The only thing with that is
- 1:04:40because they're extending it at 25%,
- 1:04:43you have to allow people
- 1:04:44that have jobs during the week or weekend,
- 1:04:49whatever, to plan accordingly.
- 1:04:51If it's one workout, they do a class.
- 1:04:55Yeah.
- 1:04:55Right.
- 1:04:57I'm tired of that.
- 1:05:01Because this is really like, this is,
- 1:05:06qualifying for the semis is
- 1:05:07going to be really freaking hard.
- 1:05:10Very hard.
- 1:05:11And at this point,
- 1:05:12the elite athletes have to
- 1:05:14have a fair competition
- 1:05:16that is evenly spread out
- 1:05:20over different modalities,
- 1:05:22different aspects.
- 1:05:24There's going to be a max
- 1:05:25lift that's going to count for 20%.
- 1:05:28There's going to be a part
- 1:05:28two that's going to be a
- 1:05:30max lift with 25% of the
- 1:05:32people that are like not
- 1:05:33fatigued going into the max lift.
- 1:05:35And then they're going to
- 1:05:36pull up big numbers.
- 1:05:38And if it's a bad lift for you,
- 1:05:41good luck making that top 40.
- 1:05:43Exactly.
- 1:05:46Like there better be minimum
- 1:05:47work requirement.
- 1:05:48There better be – it better be –
- 1:05:51Like six rounds for time in this time.
- 1:05:54If you finish the work, you get this,
- 1:05:56like you can't,
- 1:05:58I don't feel like it can be
- 1:05:59like the quarter, the,
- 1:06:00our semifinals workout last
- 1:06:02year that was started with
- 1:06:04hands while facing handstand pushups.
- 1:06:05And there were people who did zero.
- 1:06:07who got to get a lift in and
- 1:06:09beat me out on the
- 1:06:09leaderboard and pushed me down.
- 1:06:11Like that kind of stuff.
- 1:06:12When you have 25,
- 1:06:13you have people who we have
- 1:06:14no idea if they got one bar muscle,
- 1:06:16probably barely no skills.
- 1:06:18They're just going to come in and finally,
- 1:06:20John Young finally gets his
- 1:06:22barbell and lifts something
- 1:06:24so heavy without
- 1:06:26necessarily having the fitness to,
- 1:06:28which is the bottom of the pyramid.
- 1:06:30Let's make sure you have that first.
- 1:06:32Like,
- 1:06:32are we going to even going to get
- 1:06:33another workout, like workout three,
- 1:06:35like to make sure people
- 1:06:36have the fitness.
- 1:06:38I mean, you clearly need that workout,
- 1:06:40a very similar workout
- 1:06:42again to make sure like
- 1:06:44someone like Brooke or Tia
- 1:06:46don't get through if they
- 1:06:47aren't healthy enough to get through.
- 1:06:49Like we can't, you can't be like, well,
- 1:06:50we already tested that.
- 1:06:53People got through on that.
- 1:06:55That baby shouldn't get through.
- 1:06:56I'll take Jamie doesn't want
- 1:06:57broker T to make it into semis.
- 1:06:59I, I listen, I hope they're,
- 1:07:01I hope they're recovered by then.
- 1:07:03I just don't want anyone to
- 1:07:04be able to limp in, like,
- 1:07:06because I'm just giving you
- 1:07:09shit because another hot
- 1:07:11take from coach crispy cream.
- 1:07:14HQ has never had to program
- 1:07:16a more important set of
- 1:07:17tests ever more important
- 1:07:20than any open semis or games prior.
- 1:07:24The window for elite
- 1:07:25athletes is so freaking small.
- 1:07:29And the workouts are the
- 1:07:30same from 16 to 54.
- 1:07:33Correct.
- 1:07:35Which is crazy.
- 1:07:37And then Dave has said that
- 1:07:40it's going to be like,
- 1:07:41everyone can start them, right?
- 1:07:43Like you can start them.
- 1:07:44So obviously like, like a max lift,
- 1:07:47if it's a max lift,
- 1:07:48like everyone can start that.
- 1:07:49And then you're just going
- 1:07:49to your own capacity versus a lot like,
- 1:07:54and then do they have like,
- 1:07:57rope climbs and GHDs and stuff.
- 1:07:59Cause like 25%,
- 1:08:00like there's a lot of gyms
- 1:08:02don't have 15 foot ceilings,
- 1:08:04like big warehouses.
- 1:08:06Yeah.
- 1:08:06They, they do outside of big cities,
- 1:08:08but if you're in a big city,
- 1:08:09if you're in New York,
- 1:08:10if you're in Chicago and stuff,
- 1:08:11and you're just like
- 1:08:13smaller affiliate with like downtown,
- 1:08:14like you don't have 15 foot ceilings, um,
- 1:08:17in certain parts of the country, GHDs,
- 1:08:18like how many do gyms have?
- 1:08:20Like if you're Mayhem,
- 1:08:21you have like 50 of them,
- 1:08:22but most gyms have what,
- 1:08:24like one to four or five, um,
- 1:08:27And you got a bunch of
- 1:08:28people needing to do the workouts.
- 1:08:30Do they include that?
- 1:08:31Or maybe now they don't include that.
- 1:08:36ACR heard a rumor that Jamie
- 1:08:38doesn't like Tia or Brooke.
- 1:08:41After a deep dive has
- 1:08:42discovered because they're not Canadian.
- 1:08:50I've got no rebuttal.
- 1:08:51It may be true.
- 1:08:52Coach Krispy Kreme back in the comments.
- 1:08:54I think
- 1:08:56I think of this quarter as
- 1:08:57in the context of the
- 1:08:59precedence it will set and
- 1:09:01the impact it will have on
- 1:09:02the majority of the
- 1:09:03competitive CrossFit community.
- 1:09:06Yeah.
- 1:09:08It's going to be really telling on, like,
- 1:09:11if there is a lift,
- 1:09:12it is going to push the
- 1:09:14entire space into heavier, stronger.
- 1:09:18And they, like, really need to decide,
- 1:09:19does the base of the
- 1:09:22pyramid mean a little bit more or does...
- 1:09:27Are they just going to push strength?
- 1:09:30Jamie,
- 1:09:31you've been awarded a point from Chris.
- 1:09:33Oh, thanks.
- 1:09:38Carolyn's done with the points.
- 1:09:41I was going to say something
- 1:09:42and I forgot my... No, I think Tristan...
- 1:09:49has made an excellent point.
- 1:09:53And he said it way better
- 1:09:55than I could ever say it.
- 1:09:56This round of this year's
- 1:10:00season is so freaking critical.
- 1:10:02And I don't think people understand that.
- 1:10:07I don't know if they care
- 1:10:08about the 40th athlete.
- 1:10:16I totally agree.
- 1:10:17Like look at the cuts at the games.
- 1:10:19I mean,
- 1:10:19I was at dinner with Dave and I
- 1:10:22told him that I didn't like
- 1:10:23the cuts like last year
- 1:10:24when I was on the demo team and like,
- 1:10:27they don't like the top
- 1:10:29people are still going to
- 1:10:29rise to the top.
- 1:10:31And at the end of the day,
- 1:10:31like if you're making it 40th,
- 1:10:33like in their mind,
- 1:10:34like you're probably not
- 1:10:34making it to the games anyways.
- 1:10:36Like,
- 1:10:37and those athletes are very dependent
- 1:10:39on workouts, which is like everyone minus,
- 1:10:43you know,
- 1:10:44five people per region maybe
- 1:10:45that can go on any workout,
- 1:10:48but I don't know.
- 1:10:50I think Taylor made a great
- 1:10:51point today on shut up and scribble.
- 1:10:53CrossFit only cares about the top five.
- 1:10:57Yes.
- 1:10:57If the top five get the whole way through,
- 1:11:00if Brent, Pat, Roman, Ricky,
- 1:11:04and Jeff all make it through,
- 1:11:06they're happy.
- 1:11:09And they could care less about the,
- 1:11:11however, the rest fall.
- 1:11:13Yeah.
- 1:11:16They care that Tia, Laura, Emma,
- 1:11:21probably Ariel now, and Alex make it in,
- 1:11:26and the rest they could care less.
- 1:11:32I hope not.
- 1:11:35I feel like they're, I mean,
- 1:11:37they know that this, they know, right,
- 1:11:39that this is important.
- 1:11:42They know, right,
- 1:11:43that they need to program like,
- 1:11:45pretty good workouts now for
- 1:11:47top 40 like I hope that
- 1:11:48they're taking it like
- 1:11:50seriously and really
- 1:11:52thinking about the
- 1:11:53combination of movements
- 1:11:54and how many workouts and
- 1:11:58scored events like the more
- 1:12:00the better the more the
- 1:12:02more precise it's going to
- 1:12:03be for the field like four
- 1:12:04events I if there's only
- 1:12:06four events that's
- 1:12:08That sucks.
- 1:12:09There won't be.
- 1:12:10There's no way.
- 1:12:13The strong guy talk.
- 1:12:15I laugh every time the
- 1:12:16complaints about the lifts come in.
- 1:12:19You always have to lift with
- 1:12:20a high heart rate.
- 1:12:21It really drops your numbers.
- 1:12:23But that elevated heart rate
- 1:12:24means it's all metabolic condition.
- 1:12:27And he ran out of space.
- 1:12:29So he finished it.
- 1:12:31But we have not tested strength at all.
- 1:12:33Just take it out of the
- 1:12:34pyramid if we aren't testing it.
- 1:12:37But we don't need to be the strongest.
- 1:12:39We need to be strong enough.
- 1:12:42And you could test strength
- 1:12:43under like muscular fatigue.
- 1:12:48Say like basically last year
- 1:12:50at the end of the open,
- 1:12:52it was that wall facing or sorry,
- 1:12:56wall walks, snatch,
- 1:12:58double unders maybe were in there.
- 1:13:00Was there a dumb one?
- 1:13:01Yeah.
- 1:13:02And it was like, push up.
- 1:13:04Yeah.
- 1:13:05And a little bit heavier.
- 1:13:05Like that one,
- 1:13:06you're testing strength
- 1:13:07under like muscular fatigue
- 1:13:08of the shoulder.
- 1:13:09And then you could also do
- 1:13:10kind of like a shuttle run
- 1:13:12and also strength under a high heart rate,
- 1:13:15but you don't need to be
- 1:13:16top end strength.
- 1:13:19Like you just, you just need to be strong.
- 1:13:21Like, like you,
- 1:13:23you can't make it through if you're weak,
- 1:13:24but you still have to test strength.
- 1:13:25But we're saying to have one scored event,
- 1:13:28be a, not a, um,
- 1:13:32Just a lift.
- 1:13:33Yeah, just the one movement.
- 1:13:34I was going to say monostructural,
- 1:13:35but that's not what I meant.
- 1:13:40I meant single modality.
- 1:13:43The one year they had the
- 1:13:44burpee that you had to
- 1:13:46complete to earn your right to lift.
- 1:13:48Yes, exactly.
- 1:13:50I had to redo that to be
- 1:13:52able to get my lift in.
- 1:13:54No,
- 1:13:54the double dumbbell squat and the burpee.
- 1:13:58Bar-facing burpee, double dumbbell squat.
- 1:14:0018.2A or whatever it was.
- 1:14:03You had to finish the 10 rounds.
- 1:14:05If you didn't finish the 10 rounds,
- 1:14:06you didn't get to do B. I'm
- 1:14:08good with that.
- 1:14:08What LDY is saying here, though,
- 1:14:10I laugh every time the
- 1:14:11complaints come in about the lifts.
- 1:14:13You always have to lift with a heart rate.
- 1:14:16That's bull crap.
- 1:14:18There's tons of work.
- 1:14:21We've had tons of workouts that have not.
- 1:14:25said that you have to have a
- 1:14:26high heart rate.
- 1:14:26We've had four rep front squat,
- 1:14:28completely its own workout,
- 1:14:30single modality,
- 1:14:31not under a high heart rate.
- 1:14:32We've had, you could just,
- 1:14:34you could have literally just done,
- 1:14:35walked some shuttles and
- 1:14:36done 10 burpee pull-ups and
- 1:14:38sat there for the rest 10
- 1:14:39minutes and been completely
- 1:14:40fresh and hit a crazy thruster.
- 1:14:43So no,
- 1:14:43you can't tell me that you always
- 1:14:45have to lift with a high heart rate.
- 1:14:46Like
- 1:14:48If they're going to test just lifting,
- 1:14:50I just don't agree with it.
- 1:14:52Not at this stage.
- 1:14:53Like,
- 1:14:53I'm totally fine with earning the lift.
- 1:14:56But this goes...
- 1:14:59Not only just lifting,
- 1:15:00you can't just have a gymnastics,
- 1:15:02just have a... We're not
- 1:15:05just... Just a single
- 1:15:06modality specialized
- 1:15:09workout as one of the four
- 1:15:11or five scored events can really skew.
- 1:15:15I want to see just couplets
- 1:15:17and triplets and...
- 1:15:19yeah like once testing just
- 1:15:21pure capacity one's got
- 1:15:22maybe uh you know gateways
- 1:15:25that you just kind of
- 1:15:25progress through stuff um
- 1:15:29you can have a great test
- 1:15:30still like that oh yeah
- 1:15:32like I love the workout
- 1:15:34eight I don't know 18.3 or
- 1:15:35whatever the ascending
- 1:15:37squat cleans with the total
- 1:15:39bar and the double under 19.2
- 1:15:42You,
- 1:15:43you had to be fit enough to get to the
- 1:15:45final barbell.
- 1:15:47Like those are great
- 1:15:48workouts and some people
- 1:15:50can't get there because
- 1:15:51they can't keep doing the
- 1:15:52double unders or the total bar.
- 1:15:53And some people just can't
- 1:15:54get past the fourth barbell
- 1:15:56weight and great.
- 1:15:57The top 40 are going to rise.
- 1:15:59Like those are perfect workouts.
- 1:16:02Or you get there and you
- 1:16:02have no grip strength left.
- 1:16:03So the bar just flies out of your hand.
- 1:16:06Okay.
- 1:16:09That's me.
- 1:16:10That's this guy.
- 1:16:10Yes.
- 1:16:10Ken preach.
- 1:16:12You want to lift heavy
- 1:16:13switch over to Olympic or power lifting,
- 1:16:15go to a, go to a lifting sport.
- 1:16:17If that's what you want to do.
- 1:16:20I think placed in the right spot,
- 1:16:22heavy lifts are a good thing,
- 1:16:25but I am not,
- 1:16:25I am not a big fan of just a one,
- 1:16:28unless you're at the games
- 1:16:29with 12 events or 15 events,
- 1:16:32like a one rep max on its
- 1:16:33own is just not something I
- 1:16:35want to see at this stage of the,
- 1:16:37of the competition.
- 1:16:38And like addressing, uh,
- 1:16:40Tristan's point here,
- 1:16:41like if you bring that one up, like,
- 1:16:43would you want,
- 1:16:44would you be okay with the
- 1:16:45lift of the other events?
- 1:16:46No, because I don't want single modalities,
- 1:16:49uh,
- 1:16:50all of them to be like single modality
- 1:16:52specialist type workouts here.
- 1:16:53We need.
- 1:16:55Mgw like couplets triplets, um,
- 1:16:59and really testing a broad,
- 1:17:01like broad things.
- 1:17:02Like, I don't,
- 1:17:02I don't think I want like that.
- 1:17:04Like,
- 1:17:04I don't think that would be a good test.
- 1:17:05It's very skewed towards specialists.
- 1:17:10And, uh, Mr. Young, if you just want,
- 1:17:14if you want just engine do high rocks.
- 1:17:16I have, I am considering it completely.
- 1:17:18I will see how this year's
- 1:17:20quarters and semis are programmed.
- 1:17:22And if they keep pushing just heavyweights,
- 1:17:24I will switch over to high
- 1:17:25rocks a hundred percent.
- 1:17:30And Tristan was just making a point.
- 1:17:32He was not,
- 1:17:33that's not what he believed in.
- 1:17:35So, all right.
- 1:17:37So quarterfinals actually,
- 1:17:39before we get on the air again next week,
- 1:17:42the team quarterfinals
- 1:17:44workouts will be released.
- 1:17:46They come out next Wednesday to start.
- 1:17:51Yes.
- 1:17:51Correct.
- 1:17:52Uh,
- 1:17:53Regretfully,
- 1:17:54Jamie's team did not make it
- 1:17:56on to quarterfinals.
- 1:17:58So we don't have an inside look at that.
- 1:18:01But we'll be watching.
- 1:18:03Who are you most excited to
- 1:18:05see how they do in quarterfinals?
- 1:18:14I don't know.
- 1:18:15Maybe Noah's team.
- 1:18:21I don't know enough about all the teams.
- 1:18:24I know there's Kara's team
- 1:18:27that's really good, Noah's,
- 1:18:30Chandler's team.
- 1:18:33guess I just I need to see
- 1:18:34the field because right now
- 1:18:36I feel like a lot of scores
- 1:18:37are getting counted on
- 1:18:39teams that probably aren't
- 1:18:40doing right so like that
- 1:18:41which which is what sucks
- 1:18:43right because I don't know
- 1:18:43where you guys finished
- 1:18:45finished jamie but are I'm
- 1:18:47sure you guys are getting
- 1:18:48affected by rosters that
- 1:18:49are pulling a bunch of
- 1:18:51different scores and like
- 1:18:55this is when we're going to
- 1:18:56see who are the actual
- 1:18:57members of a team um and
- 1:19:00jamie's team was really close
- 1:19:01Which sucks.
- 1:19:02I'm sure you guys are in if
- 1:19:04you take out half of the
- 1:19:07teams in front of you that
- 1:19:08aren't even using all their people.
- 1:19:10If they could have got one
- 1:19:11more male finisher on the third event,
- 1:19:15they'd be in.
- 1:19:17I think if we could have
- 1:19:17gotten five more reps, we'd be in.
- 1:19:19If he could have gotten five
- 1:19:21more muscle-ups at the end.
- 1:19:24Oh, well.
- 1:19:24It is what it is.
- 1:19:26Kenneth, no.
- 1:19:27Mayhem still has a team.
- 1:19:28Uh, Angelo, uh,
- 1:19:30three members are coming
- 1:19:31back from last year.
- 1:19:33They, um, they substituted, uh,
- 1:19:38what's her family?
- 1:19:40Yeah, not her,
- 1:19:41but they substituted the one
- 1:19:42that was Kyra with Molly McGrady, um,
- 1:19:45from Michigan.
- 1:19:47Uh, and, uh, yeah, the other,
- 1:19:50the other three are staying intact.
- 1:19:53So the team I'm most looking
- 1:19:55forward to has nothing to
- 1:19:56do with the top of the leaderboard.
- 1:19:57I just want to see them move on.
- 1:20:00And that is the underdogs team with my,
- 1:20:02one of my favorite people in the world,
- 1:20:03Mitch McLoone, uh,
- 1:20:05who is Mr. Carrie Pierce.
- 1:20:08Uh,
- 1:20:08he is putting together a team with
- 1:20:10Carson Wolf and, um, gosh,
- 1:20:16I knew them all.
- 1:20:16And now they just went out my head.
- 1:20:21I don't know who's on that team.
- 1:20:22We interviewed all of them
- 1:20:23last year for the piece.
- 1:20:26Um, and they put that team together.
- 1:20:28I love Mitch.
- 1:20:29Mitch is just one of my
- 1:20:30favorite people ever.
- 1:20:31And I want to see how well they do.
- 1:20:33Um, and those,
- 1:20:34the girls are young up and
- 1:20:36comers that a year on team
- 1:20:38is probably going to be
- 1:20:39really good for them.
- 1:20:43so super stoked for them and
- 1:20:46can't wait to see what
- 1:20:47they're doing plus it's
- 1:20:49going to be interesting to
- 1:20:50see kind of what these
- 1:20:51European teams because
- 1:20:52there's one that got put
- 1:20:53together right with Christoph Horvath
- 1:20:59Jamie, I think it's Jamie Simmons.
- 1:21:01Oh yes.
- 1:21:02And the strong girl.
- 1:21:03Oh my God.
- 1:21:04What's her name?
- 1:21:06Um, Mia.
- 1:21:08She's so strong.
- 1:21:09Yeah.
- 1:21:10That's going to be good.
- 1:21:12She's good.
- 1:21:13No, when we see quarterfinals,
- 1:21:14we'll only see them against their own.
- 1:21:17Will the leaderboard just be
- 1:21:18their own region?
- 1:21:20Correct.
- 1:21:23Okay.
- 1:21:25We may need to get Holly on
- 1:21:26like making a combined one
- 1:21:28just for shits and giggles
- 1:21:31to kind of see how everybody's doing.
- 1:21:34Yeah.
- 1:21:36I would think she'd be able
- 1:21:37to do that fairly easily.
- 1:21:40So anything else about the team,
- 1:21:42any workouts?
- 1:21:44I, I cannot predict workouts.
- 1:21:46I know for teams at this point,
- 1:21:49there is no worm.
- 1:21:50So it's,
- 1:21:51how do you figure out like
- 1:21:53teamwork at this stage?
- 1:21:55Probably some synchro stuff.
- 1:21:59I'm probably,
- 1:21:59there's going to be a relay style.
- 1:22:03Yup.
- 1:22:04Yeah.
- 1:22:05Yeah.
- 1:22:06I talked about this at the
- 1:22:07end of the versus Haley and
- 1:22:09I were talking about it,
- 1:22:10about missing out and what
- 1:22:11we might do this week.
- 1:22:12And we said maybe when the
- 1:22:13workouts come out,
- 1:22:14especially if there is a
- 1:22:16female female pairing,
- 1:22:17maybe we'll still do it.
- 1:22:19Um, and I'm just very curious to see him.
- 1:22:22Cause usually there's like
- 1:22:24one workout that is very
- 1:22:26similar to the individuals.
- 1:22:28Like they did the pairing of the clean,
- 1:22:31heavy clean and jerks.
- 1:22:32And I don't know if they're,
- 1:22:34they're burpy backs, jump over was in it,
- 1:22:36but like they have a one
- 1:22:38work that like mimics the individual.
- 1:22:40So I'm just curious to see
- 1:22:42the team workouts and see
- 1:22:43if we can glean anything from them.
- 1:22:47yeah it's gonna be fun uh
- 1:22:51we'll have lots to talk
- 1:22:52about next week because
- 1:22:53those workouts will be out
- 1:22:55yeah probably see some
- 1:22:56youtube stuff yeah and I
- 1:23:00want to finish up with next
- 1:23:02week we're starting a new
- 1:23:03or this week starting a new
- 1:23:04show easter night um and it
- 1:23:11is if you've not seen it
- 1:23:13out on youtube yet
- 1:23:16The zombie Clydesdale weekend retest.
- 1:23:21And this is going to be a
- 1:23:22look back at the week that
- 1:23:23was in our little bit of news,
- 1:23:30a little bit of humor,
- 1:23:30a little bit of stuff like that.
- 1:23:35It's going to be fun.
- 1:23:37It's going to be Sunday nights.
- 1:23:39What time?
- 1:23:40I think it's going to be
- 1:23:41Sunday nights at 8 is what
- 1:23:42we're shooting for.
- 1:23:43We were doing that with
- 1:23:45Jamie and the open workouts
- 1:23:48and going over them.
- 1:23:49So we're just going to keep
- 1:23:50that time slot because
- 1:23:52there's nothing else going
- 1:23:53on on Sunday nights.
- 1:23:55And it lets you look back at
- 1:23:56the week that was before
- 1:23:58you head into the week that
- 1:23:59it is going to be.
- 1:24:01Awesome.
- 1:24:04And we've got some content
- 1:24:05already brewing to hand out
- 1:24:08and I can't wait to share it.
- 1:24:11First week will probably be
- 1:24:12a train wreck as we're
- 1:24:13trying to figure out timing
- 1:24:14and all that kind of stuff.
- 1:24:15But hey, that might be fun too.
- 1:24:18But yeah,
- 1:24:19it's definitely going to be an
- 1:24:20interesting take on some things.
- 1:24:22If you follow WAD Zombie on Instagram,
- 1:24:25you know his sense of humor.
- 1:24:27So we like to call it a
- 1:24:30combination of Weekend
- 1:24:31Update from Saturday Night
- 1:24:32Live and like The Daily
- 1:24:35Show or John Oliver.
- 1:24:38And then Kenneth,
- 1:24:39I think last time I talked to him,
- 1:24:41said Tosh 2.0 or Tosh .0.
- 1:24:45Something like that.
- 1:24:47So it's going to be similar to that,
- 1:24:49but done around the CrossFit, pop culture,
- 1:24:52and probably a little bit
- 1:24:53of news that we seem to think is funny.
- 1:24:57So with that, anything to add, guys,
- 1:25:00before we get off the air?
- 1:25:03Nope.
- 1:25:06I riffed enough.
- 1:25:09All right.
- 1:25:09Well,
- 1:25:10we will catch everybody next week on
- 1:25:13Thursday night.
- 1:25:13CrossFit talk for the team quarterfinals.