Latest / Scam Goddess / Fraud Friday: The Poisonous Beauty Product Peddler w/ Alaska Thunderfuck
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's popping Congregation? Is your girl Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
- 0:09Speaker 1: older episodes from the Scam Goddess Bault. That's right, Fraud
- 0:13Speaker 1: Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from
- 0:16Speaker 1: behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall,
- 0:20Speaker 1: and as always, stay.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Scheming Scam, Come.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Rob, Froll.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Scam, Come.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Rob.
- 0:38Speaker 2: That's froll Scam Goddess. What's popping Congregation?
- 0:43Speaker 1: It's me, scam Goddess, and we're back with another installment
- 0:46Speaker 1: of Scam Goddess.
- 0:48Speaker 2: And guys say it with me? What am I I'm
- 0:51Speaker 2: so what?
- 0:52Speaker 1: Yes?
- 0:52Speaker 2: Excited? Excited for this guest? I really truly am. This
- 0:56Speaker 2: was a big get, honey.
- 0:57Speaker 1: We love to have the queens on and you will
- 1:00Speaker 1: recognize this person from the fifth season of RuPaul's Drag
- 1:03Speaker 1: Race and also the winner of the second season of
- 1:06Speaker 1: RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars.
- 1:08Speaker 2: New York Magazine.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Placed her on the list of most powerful drag queens.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Come on now, we'd love to see it. Alaska Thunderfuck
- 1:16Speaker 1: and she has a special coming out on out TV
- 1:20Speaker 1: that's called Alaska Thunderfuck Extra Special Comedy Special Guys.
- 1:25Speaker 2: Welcome Alaska Thunderfuck.
- 1:27Speaker 4: Hey Alaska, Hello, how are you doing?
- 1:31Speaker 2: Oh? Good? Better now that you're here, much better?
- 1:35Speaker 3: Since this is scam goddess, I really want to talk
- 1:38Speaker 3: to you about your car's warranty.
- 1:41Speaker 4: I have really out the gig, not a straight out
- 1:47Speaker 4: straight out.
- 1:49Speaker 1: There's so many all of a sudden, Alaska's pamphlets and
- 1:52Speaker 1: business cars.
- 1:53Speaker 3: Yes, you have to call me that right away about
- 1:56Speaker 3: your car's warranty.
- 1:57Speaker 2: I mean it's an emergency.
- 1:59Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's up.
- 2:01Speaker 1: It's so funny you say that because I used to
- 2:03Speaker 1: drive a Ford Focus and I learned recently that I
- 2:08Speaker 1: actually learned on the lot that they're like lemons, like
- 2:10Speaker 1: they have a lot of problems.
- 2:11Speaker 2: And I would get.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Shipped in the mail all the time about warranties and
- 2:14Speaker 1: they'd be like, hey, sis, your door might fly off.
- 2:16Speaker 1: So you know, give the girls a call, like what.
- 2:23Speaker 3: The Ford Focus Focus on me right now?
- 2:27Speaker 2: Listen to Ford want to sponsor this podcast. I love them.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Automobive vehicles. Okay, take get all back.
- 2:33Speaker 4: We want to take a second to talk to you
- 2:34Speaker 4: about the Ford Focus.
- 2:37Speaker 2: We love it. Okay, Well, who needs a door. What
- 2:39Speaker 2: if your door fly off? What? Okay, now you're driving
- 2:42Speaker 2: like the ups man, I don't see the problem. Okay,
- 2:44Speaker 2: they get around.
- 2:45Speaker 4: To spy exactly.
- 2:48Speaker 2: They don't need a door, and neither do you, honey. Okay, no, no.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Yes, So Alaska, what's your relationship with scams?
- 2:56Speaker 2: Do you like them? Do you hate them? Have you
- 2:57Speaker 2: ever been scammed? It could be anything.
- 2:59Speaker 3: This is the I was thinking about this, and I'm like,
- 3:02Speaker 3: I feel like my family was super like skeptical when
- 3:08Speaker 3: I was growing up, because I was like a kid
- 3:11Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my gosh, it's on TV,
- 3:14Speaker 3: so it must be true, it must be real. And
- 3:17Speaker 3: so my family was like, my parents were super like, no,
- 3:21Speaker 3: everything on TV is fake. Everyone's lying to you. Everything
- 3:24Speaker 3: is a scam. So I've grown up to be very skeptical.
- 3:28Speaker 3: I don't answer emails. I don't answer the phone like,
- 3:31Speaker 3: I don't answer the door like no, I just I don't.
- 3:34Speaker 3: I don't like it. I don't do it, and it's
- 3:37Speaker 3: so bad now these I feel like scamming has since
- 3:44Speaker 3: the pandemic. I feel like people are like, okay, I
- 3:48Speaker 3: need to I think I'm going to take up scamming
- 3:51Speaker 3: as my career.
- 3:52Speaker 1: It's grown scamming. It has That's what I love about
- 3:56Speaker 1: it. It changes so much. I saw a tweet recently that
- 3:59Speaker 1: was like, look, would rather have a ppe loan and
- 4:02Speaker 1: no business than a student loan debt and no education.
- 4:06Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that makes sense, that makes sense
- 4:09Speaker 1: to me. I mean, the whole country is a scam,
- 4:12Speaker 1: the whole everything that's happening to us. And I think
- 4:14Speaker 1: after the pandemic that was a real realization for people
- 4:17Speaker 1: because tax money was always taken. It's always taken out
- 4:19Speaker 1: of our checks. We pay taxes every year, and the
- 4:21Speaker 1: assumption was is that that money is being used for
- 4:24Speaker 1: the greater good. And then you watch people go into
- 4:27Speaker 1: dire straints in a pandemic, and then Daddy government just
- 4:30Speaker 1: pieced out. Daddy Government went to get a cart and
- 4:32Speaker 1: a cigarettes and never came back.
- 4:34Speaker 2: And we were like daddy.
- 4:36Speaker 3: Truly, like, oh, the stimulus checks are coming.
- 4:40Speaker 4: They're gonna be so big.
- 4:42Speaker 3: You guys just hold on, like you're not even ready
- 4:45Speaker 3: for these checks.
- 4:46Speaker 4: Okay, they're gonna be sickening.
- 4:50Speaker 1: So and then we were like, okay, well where are
- 4:53Speaker 1: the checks? Where are the sickening checks that we were
- 4:55Speaker 1: told that were cooky.
- 4:56Speaker 3: I'm well, when you get it, you're gonna just you're
- 4:59Speaker 3: gonna your mind and you're just gonna love it.
- 5:01Speaker 4: No, it was No, it's horrible. You're right. The whole
- 5:04Speaker 4: country is a scam.
- 5:05Speaker 3: I mean, and you know, I mean the country kind
- 5:07Speaker 3: of was built on scam scamps.
- 5:09Speaker 1: It was built on robbery of people, right, and fraud
- 5:13Speaker 1: and murder, you know, and Jim's side of you know,
- 5:15Speaker 1: native people. So it's all a scam. It's been since
- 5:18Speaker 1: the beginning. But I think this was the first time
- 5:20Speaker 1: for a lot of people that they were like, oh,
- 5:21Speaker 1: whoa wait a minute, they said two thousand, and then
- 5:23Speaker 1: the girls gave fourteen hundred, Like they lied about the
- 5:28Speaker 1: pandemic the whole beginning of They're like, no, no.
- 5:30Speaker 2: No, it's just a little cold, y'all. Chill out, chill out.
- 5:32Speaker 1: The stock market, y'all. The stock market like it's been
- 5:36Speaker 1: a grip from the beginning. So I love to see
- 5:38Speaker 1: that people are like get.
- 5:39Speaker 3: Involved exactly, and like getting more wise to it, which
- 5:44Speaker 3: I guess is the you know, is the first step
- 5:46Speaker 3: in kind of making it better, I hope. But these
- 5:50Speaker 3: fucking voicemails with the I mean it's every day, the voicemails,
- 5:56Speaker 3: and they call my mom too, they call everybody.
- 5:59Speaker 4: Who are these people?
- 6:01Speaker 3: If I was to run for office, which I'm not
- 6:04Speaker 3: planning on doing until I'm at least forty, but if
- 6:08Speaker 3: I was to run for office, my cause would be
- 6:13Speaker 3: I'm gonna get rid of all spam phone calls. That
- 6:17Speaker 3: would be my campaign slate because it's literally across the board,
- 6:21Speaker 3: whether you're on the left or the right or whatever,
- 6:24Speaker 3: everyone hates them. Everyone hates that and it's absurd and
- 6:28Speaker 3: it's wrong. So like I would run on that as
- 6:31Speaker 3: my campaign.
- 6:32Speaker 2: That's a great unification ticket.
- 6:33Speaker 1: You want to talk about rushing across the aisle, we
- 6:35Speaker 1: can all agree to that.
- 6:37Speaker 2: And it's so funny you say that.
- 6:39Speaker 1: About the phone calls, because I get phone calls every day,
- 6:41Speaker 1: and now iPhones will do the scam likely and shit,
- 6:44Speaker 1: and every now and then I'll pick up on the
- 6:45Speaker 1: scam likely because I just want to see the girls
- 6:46Speaker 1: are up.
- 6:47Speaker 2: To and as research of my homegirls, you know.
- 6:51Speaker 1: And whenever I pick up on scam like Keisha, it's automated,
- 6:56Speaker 1: and that to me is the most disrespectful part of it.
- 6:58Speaker 2: How dare you call me and then they're like, hello,
- 7:02Speaker 2: we have a scam for you. Pass on. I'm like,
- 7:06Speaker 2: you can't even get on.
- 7:07Speaker 1: I can't even have interpersonal communication with the scam martist.
- 7:10Speaker 2: You're gonna try to rob me automated. That's disrespectful.
- 7:12Speaker 4: I don't don't.
- 7:14Speaker 3: How is that a viable business model for somebody who's
- 7:17Speaker 3: out there manifesting these calls.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Uh, they have to be making money somehow, and I'm
- 7:23Speaker 1: trying to get involved.
- 7:24Speaker 2: You know what I got to do? Hoo many people?
- 7:26Speaker 2: How many people? I got to type two every day? Hello?
- 7:29Speaker 2: I can do that. I got you.
- 7:33Speaker 1: It's so disrespectful, Like, at least call me put some
- 7:37Speaker 1: respect on the scam now rude, But let'sten get into it, Aliska.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Our first segment on this show is called What's Hot
- 7:44Speaker 1: and Fraud. This is where we warn our listeners about
- 7:46Speaker 1: popping scams on the streets. Are more often than not
- 7:48Speaker 1: these days. We get a letter from one of you guys.
- 7:51Speaker 1: As always, scam got a spot at gmail dot com.
- 7:53Speaker 1: Snitch on your friends and family. Just make sure that
- 7:55Speaker 1: the scam is retired. We don't want to fuck up
- 7:57Speaker 1: your bag, all right, So I need a fake name
- 8:01Speaker 1: Alaska for this person about gender. Winifred Winnifred Ailson, Winnifred
- 8:11Speaker 1: Wilson definitely a scammer. Yes, So Winniford seems to be
- 8:15Speaker 1: on the receiving end of this scam.
- 8:18Speaker 2: But we're still We're still going to honor it.
- 8:21Speaker 1: So Winniford says, I was contacted by a girl who
- 8:24Speaker 1: said she was my cousin from Jamaica.
- 8:27Speaker 2: Amen.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Okay, she made the connection since we had the same
- 8:31Speaker 1: last name and reached out to me. We had four
- 8:34Speaker 1: mutual friends on Facebook, all cousins that I actually knew.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Good thing.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Another cousin had previously warned me and my siblings about
- 8:42Speaker 1: people randomly reaching out and asking for money, so you know,
- 8:45Speaker 1: we were kind of ahead on this scam. After the
- 8:48Speaker 1: first message, she started calling me from the Facebook app.
- 8:51Speaker 4: Wow, not calling There's.
- 8:53Speaker 1: Nothing more terrifying than a phone call from the Facebook.
- 8:56Speaker 4: App, not a cold call from Facebook app. Oh.
- 9:01Speaker 2: I had to turn that shit off.
- 9:02Speaker 1: I was like, n Mark Zuckenberger, you will not be
- 9:05Speaker 1: contacting my cellular device.
- 9:07Speaker 2: This is out of hand. So they said that. She
- 9:11Speaker 2: said she was twenty four and I don't know who
- 9:14Speaker 2: under the age of forty per first phone call, so
- 9:16Speaker 2: I would already suspicious and kept avoiding her. That is
- 9:19Speaker 2: absolutely right.
- 9:20Speaker 4: I don't even true.
- 9:21Speaker 2: There's like three.
- 9:22Speaker 1: People maybe that I call out of the blue, like
- 9:24Speaker 1: two best friends and my mom. Yeah, everybody else I'll
- 9:28Speaker 1: text like, hey, you're free for a call. Hey, just
- 9:30Speaker 1: want to let you know I'm gonna accost you with
- 9:31Speaker 1: a cellular communication.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Are you alright with that?
- 9:35Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 9:35Speaker 2: Call people.
- 9:36Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 9:37Speaker 3: My friend Nick and I are like, okay, I'm gonna
- 9:39Speaker 3: cold call you. We're still giving each other notice for
- 9:42Speaker 3: an unexpected phone call.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Yes, that's what exactly, because we're just I don't know.
- 9:46Speaker 2: The phone is so much, you know, like so much.
- 9:49Speaker 2: Shoot me a text.
- 9:50Speaker 1: I mean, if my house is on fire, please don't
- 9:53Speaker 1: text like, hey, girl, house.
- 9:54Speaker 4: On fire fire emoji?
- 9:57Speaker 1: Right, house house emoji fire emoji?
- 10:01Speaker 2: Cry won one question mark? Yeah, then call.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Then there's certain places reasons you can call, you know
- 10:09Speaker 1: what I mean. If somebody goes missing, don't text me
- 10:11Speaker 1: like dad gone dead emoji?
- 10:15Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we want to know then.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Although I do find it funny older people using emojis,
- 10:20Speaker 1: because I've recently seen like some bereathement stuff for someone
- 10:23Speaker 1: will be like, oh, this person's passed away, and then
- 10:25Speaker 1: like older people will use like the dead skeleton emoji underneath, like.
- 10:29Speaker 3: Oh, not that, No, we use that to say something
- 10:34Speaker 3: was really funny, like I'm oh, I'm.
- 10:36Speaker 4: Dad right, that joke was actually dead.
- 10:40Speaker 5: No, not like we are we are here together to
- 10:44Speaker 5: mourn and celebrate the life of skull emoji emoji.
- 10:51Speaker 1: No, it's so funny emojis and graphics when they're used
- 10:55Speaker 1: for like serious things like at my grandfather's funeral, he
- 10:59Speaker 1: requested and I didn't know he.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Requested it because at first I was pissed about it.
- 11:02Speaker 1: But like a rocket going into the sky, which was
- 11:07Speaker 1: like on the like the opening of his casket, so
- 11:11Speaker 1: like the flipped up art was like what looks like
- 11:14Speaker 1: a clip art rocket going into clip art clouds, And
- 11:18Speaker 1: I was like, you like it?
- 11:23Speaker 2: But he was in the Air Force. But I'm like,
- 11:24Speaker 2: ya couldn't win and got the Air Force.
- 11:26Speaker 1: Logo, like y'all went and got my my, my man's
- 11:28Speaker 1: a clip art Rocketli.
- 11:32Speaker 2: I was ready to fight. Clip arks should never be
- 11:34Speaker 2: used at anybody's funerals. Just don't do it.
- 11:40Speaker 1: What it's bad enough we got to be photoshopped into them.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Damn clouds. Please don't use the damn clip art at
- 11:46Speaker 1: the funeral sc cod but anyway, get it back to
- 11:54Speaker 1: this so Wonderford said that the girl kept calling harassing.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Eventually she decided to just keep messaging me through WhatsApp.
- 12:04Speaker 1: She started off by asking how are you, to which
- 12:06Speaker 1: I replied, good you look. I like the engagement of
- 12:09Speaker 1: this scam, because I told you I don't like an automated scam.
- 12:11Speaker 2: At least she's trying to see how your day is. Yes, yes,
- 12:16Speaker 2: how's your dasist looking rich? Bank account looking full? You
- 12:20Speaker 2: know she wants to know.
- 12:22Speaker 1: So I responded saying good in you, and she responded
- 12:24Speaker 1: saying not good cousin. Then tells me that she needs
- 12:28Speaker 1: money for I medicine, and I replied with something just
- 12:31Speaker 1: as dramatic, saying I was waiting on a paycheck or
- 12:33Speaker 1: I'll lose my car. She says, she understood and stopped messaging.
- 12:37Speaker 2: I love that for you. She was like, no, things
- 12:40Speaker 2: are not. Things are going bad. Manied money for me.
- 12:43Speaker 1: I and he were like, well, thing's going real bad
- 12:46Speaker 1: over here.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Me need money or they take my car? Like you
- 12:50Speaker 2: just out, I'm medicine as.
- 12:54Speaker 4: Well, right exactly.
- 12:57Speaker 1: The repoe man is standing outside my house right now,
- 13:00Speaker 1: like debo knocking.
- 13:01Speaker 3: So right like you're like, you know what, I'm so
- 13:04Speaker 3: glad you contacted me. I was wondering if I could
- 13:07Speaker 3: borrow a few thousand dollars.
- 13:10Speaker 2: This is working out for both of us.
- 13:11Speaker 4: What is family for? You know what I mean?
- 13:14Speaker 2: So family in Jamaica that I've never met love to
- 13:17Speaker 2: see it.
- 13:18Speaker 1: So the next day she tried again, and we'll see
- 13:21Speaker 1: some images now of her requesting again from WhatsApp to
- 13:24Speaker 1: get some coins. So can we zoom in on this
- 13:26Speaker 1: because I'm trying to see what this says?
- 13:29Speaker 2: Okay, so this is wild?
- 13:33Speaker 1: Oh Waitifer, can we talk about how you love scams
- 13:35Speaker 1: because you kept engaging with this cousin knowing damn well,
- 13:38Speaker 1: you didn't know a bumba clot from a cool runnings
- 13:43Speaker 1: of this person.
- 13:44Speaker 2: So it says hi, and then the response is hello
- 13:47Speaker 2: from Winifred. How are you? Says the scammer?
- 13:50Speaker 4: Hr are you? H?
- 13:51Speaker 5: Are you?
- 13:52Speaker 2: So? Not even? How?
- 13:54Speaker 4: I guess that's what people say in text? Is she
- 13:57Speaker 4: an't rush?
- 14:00Speaker 5: H r U?
- 14:01Speaker 2: Okay you kinda is what the scammer says. What's wrong?
- 14:05Speaker 2: Why are you feeding into this Winnifred, you knew what
- 14:07Speaker 2: was wrong? Money?
- 14:09Speaker 4: Okay, what's wrong?
- 14:12Speaker 2: So this is the whole eye pain conversation.
- 14:14Speaker 1: My eye is paining me because I don't have My
- 14:16Speaker 1: eye is paining me because men don't have that edicine. Really,
- 14:19Speaker 1: so I said, how do you usually get the medicine?
- 14:21Speaker 1: And the scammer says, I would try me ask someone
- 14:24Speaker 1: for help for me to buy it. So that's how
- 14:26Speaker 1: you normally buy your I medicine. You know, you don't
- 14:28Speaker 1: have a pursuit yourself, may always ask.
- 14:32Speaker 4: Someone the follow is there good? How?
- 14:36Speaker 5: How?
- 14:36Speaker 4: What's wrong with your eye?
- 14:38Speaker 5: Like?
- 14:38Speaker 4: Really? These are good follow up questions.
- 14:42Speaker 1: I met an accident. From that to me, I start
- 14:45Speaker 1: acting up? So what was the accident that major? I
- 14:48Speaker 1: start acting up?
- 14:50Speaker 2: Acting up? What does that mean? Is it like you
- 14:53Speaker 2: can't see? Is it like dry? What is acting up mean?
- 14:58Speaker 2: So the winnf ask what medicine do you use?
- 15:03Speaker 4: Both questions.
- 15:04Speaker 2: Cammer response, it's an eye drop. His advising says, is
- 15:15Speaker 2: what kind of eye drop is it? What kind is what?
- 15:20Speaker 1: Winnifred says, Scammer says, I'm not sure. And then the
- 15:26Speaker 1: scammra said or Winnifred says, I could get the eye
- 15:29Speaker 1: drops if you tell me what kind?
- 15:30Speaker 4: Uh huh?
- 15:31Speaker 2: And then the scammer says, how would I get it? Right,
- 15:35Speaker 2: and he says, I can get it to you.
- 15:37Speaker 1: So I love that this was like such a poorly
- 15:42Speaker 1: thought out.
- 15:42Speaker 2: Scamp, like bad lies, bad lie, what kind of medicine?
- 15:47Speaker 2: It's a drop for your eye?
- 15:49Speaker 3: You know?
- 15:50Speaker 2: I drop anyway? Can you send me six thousand dollars?
- 15:53Speaker 2: Like what?
- 15:54Speaker 4: Right?
- 15:55Speaker 3: Also very like kind of a lowball item to do
- 16:00Speaker 3: a scam for eye drops. They cost two dollars, right,
- 16:04Speaker 3: maybe six dollars. Maybe on the high end, twenty dollars
- 16:10Speaker 3: if they're like really rich eye drops.
- 16:12Speaker 4: But like that is a very small item.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Right, And I think that's the hope, is like you
- 16:18Speaker 1: start small and then you're like, oh, it's me your
- 16:21Speaker 1: cousin again from Jamaica, waguan. I need money for something bigger,
- 16:26Speaker 1: you know. And we have a picture of the Jamaican
- 16:30Speaker 1: cousin on Facebook and she looks like she's doing all right.
- 16:34Speaker 2: She looks like she's she's okay.
- 16:37Speaker 1: But I thought this scam was so so here we are,
- 16:40Speaker 1: oh yes, and and her her her Facebook bio says
- 16:45Speaker 1: anti social with one of those red exes, then another
- 16:49Speaker 1: red X and then says yes bitches exclamation exclamation emoji.
- 16:54Speaker 1: Then it says, go lurk am really too blessed to
- 16:58Speaker 1: be stressed living the life I deserve with like a
- 17:01Speaker 1: bunch of emojis.
- 17:02Speaker 2: So it's like, well, if.
- 17:03Speaker 1: You're too blessed to be suressed that it seems like
- 17:06Speaker 1: you got eye drops if you live in the life
- 17:07Speaker 1: you deserve. I feel like eye drops are involved in it,
- 17:09Speaker 1: in the night deserve.
- 17:11Speaker 4: Wow, she is living the life she deserves, scamming.
- 17:18Speaker 2: Deep scamming the life we all deserve.
- 17:21Speaker 1: So Winterford's that I played along to see if she
- 17:24Speaker 1: would crack. Once I told her I would just send
- 17:26Speaker 1: the medicine, she stopped responding and I blocked her. Turns
- 17:28Speaker 1: out she did the same thing to my dad recently,
- 17:31Speaker 1: and he actually sent her money.
- 17:33Speaker 2: Gotta be quicker than that to kiss me.
- 17:35Speaker 4: Okay.
- 17:36Speaker 3: See that's where that's where this is so fucked up
- 17:41Speaker 3: because they prey.
- 17:42Speaker 4: Upon older people.
- 17:44Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, because older people are more trusting, they're a
- 17:49Speaker 3: little bit they're less like tech savvy, so they're like,
- 17:53Speaker 3: oh my god, someone texted me and they need money,
- 17:56Speaker 3: Like of course I'm going to try to help.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Them, right, And I think that this is a great
- 18:00Speaker 1: setup because obviously this woman went on Facebook, probably found
- 18:05Speaker 1: one of you who had the same last name as her,
- 18:07Speaker 1: and then looked at your page profile and looked at
- 18:10Speaker 1: who you had listed as family because a lot of
- 18:12Speaker 1: people do that on Facebook. She added everybody else to
- 18:14Speaker 1: make her grift seem legitimate, and then she started reaching
- 18:17Speaker 1: out to you guys, one by one. So that's the
- 18:19Speaker 1: thing about Facebook and putting your personal information on there.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Why does everybody on Facebook need to know who your
- 18:23Speaker 1: cousins are?
- 18:24Speaker 2: Why you don't need to list that. You absolutely do
- 18:28Speaker 2: not need to list that on Facebook.
- 18:30Speaker 1: So again, we're all volunteering too much information, and scammers
- 18:34Speaker 1: are getting a hold of this because even if I
- 18:36Speaker 1: can go to your Facebook page and see who your
- 18:37Speaker 1: granny is and see if they're alive, I can then
- 18:40Speaker 1: take that information about you and go to your granny
- 18:42Speaker 1: and be like, hey, so and so is in jail
- 18:45Speaker 1: and they told me to reach out to you via
- 18:46Speaker 1: Facebook and they need bail money. You know, these are
- 18:49Speaker 1: the kind of scams that happen because you're listing your
- 18:51Speaker 1: whole family. Please take your whole family tree off of
- 18:54Speaker 1: motherfucker Facebook. That's what you have reunions for. You know
- 18:57Speaker 1: who your cousin is on Facebook. You don't need anybody
- 18:59Speaker 1: else to take you. And I have a person who
- 19:02Speaker 1: pretends to be my cousin already, and she'd be posting
- 19:05Speaker 1: them myself all the time. Hey cousin, it's me your
- 19:08Speaker 1: fourth cousin. All your auntie Dori re signed And I'm like,
- 19:10Speaker 1: I don't know who you are, and I don't.
- 19:12Speaker 2: Know what you want me to do with this. Why
- 19:16Speaker 2: do we need to be cousins like we ain't never
- 19:18Speaker 2: make no?
- 19:19Speaker 4: Yes, no, that's why. No, I don't.
- 19:23Speaker 3: That's why I never used Facebook for this very real Well,
- 19:25Speaker 3: there's lots of reasons, but this is now a really
- 19:27Speaker 3: great reason to continue to not use it.
- 19:30Speaker 2: Absolutely, it absolutely is.
- 19:32Speaker 1: But guys, and it's time for my favorite segment of
- 19:34Speaker 1: this show, Historic Hoodwinks. This is where we will regale
- 19:37Speaker 1: Alaska thunderfuck with a famous con or caper. Today's Historic
- 19:40Speaker 1: Hoodwink is about a Victorian beauty influencer who peddled poisonous
- 19:45Speaker 1: beauty products. It's about blast from the past.
- 19:48Speaker 4: No, no, yes, wow.
- 19:49Speaker 2: We love merch, we love products.
- 19:51Speaker 4: We do I mean, hey, cosmetic industry is huge.
- 19:55Speaker 2: It really is.
- 19:56Speaker 1: And Sarah Rachel Russell sold exotic makeup that turned out
- 20:00Speaker 1: to mostly be awesome.
- 20:01Speaker 2: Nick wow, oh my god.
- 20:05Speaker 1: So Sarah first and foremost, and we got a picture
- 20:08Speaker 1: of Sarah right here. Let's live in on Sara the
- 20:12Speaker 1: original ig influencer. Okay, she was doing sponsored posts on
- 20:16Speaker 1: foot Honey, what do y'all know about that horse and
- 20:19Speaker 1: buggy sponsored posts?
- 20:20Speaker 2: Okay, has.
- 20:23Speaker 4: My name is Satah?
- 20:27Speaker 2: I love that she's suddenly irish and this is fantastic.
- 20:30Speaker 2: So Sarah got that drip like I know in.
- 20:33Speaker 1: Olden times, like you know, they wore, they wore a
- 20:36Speaker 1: lot of clothing like Sarah got on about five dresses
- 20:39Speaker 1: in this photo she does a next scarf, a headband
- 20:44Speaker 1: and like full belts.
- 20:45Speaker 2: Yeah, she was serving. She was serving for the times.
- 20:50Speaker 3: And wildly not a stitch of makeup for a makeup influencer,
- 20:54Speaker 3: for a makeup sales versus not a stitch.
- 20:58Speaker 1: This was the nineteen hundred, so I mean, she must
- 21:01Speaker 1: have been balling if she could even get a photograph,
- 21:03Speaker 1: because it wasn't that a thing like you had to
- 21:04Speaker 1: sit there forever and have some coins.
- 21:07Speaker 4: She was like I'm gonna get this picture, babe.
- 21:09Speaker 2: Watch she have no roote. No, I'm not seeing brows.
- 21:13Speaker 4: No contouring. Honestly, I just just from.
- 21:16Speaker 1: The photo alone, I'm like, suh. But I guess she
- 21:19Speaker 1: wasn't putting on her products because they were arsenic.
- 21:22Speaker 2: So you just had to take her word.
- 21:26Speaker 4: Okay. I'm curious to see how this turns out.
- 21:28Speaker 1: I am too, because also, I'm like, Sarah, if you
- 21:30Speaker 1: want to sell some bootleg makeup, you really didn't have
- 21:32Speaker 1: to start with rat poisoning.
- 21:33Speaker 2: You're killing a customer base, Like, what is this, honey?
- 21:37Speaker 1: So Madam Rachel was born Sarah Rachel Russell sometime in
- 21:42Speaker 1: the first quarter of the nineteenth century. She grew up
- 21:44Speaker 1: on London's overcrowded poverty strick at East End, where she
- 21:48Speaker 1: sold rabbit skins and used clothes and dried fish. Okay,
- 21:52Speaker 1: so she.
- 21:52Speaker 4: Was a hustler, honey, Yes, dried fish. Baby, everybody needs
- 21:56Speaker 4: a She.
- 21:56Speaker 2: Had those Roger rabbit skins.
- 21:58Speaker 1: Okay, you want to wear Roger pull up pull up
- 22:03Speaker 1: to Miss Sarah.
- 22:03Speaker 2: She's got it real.
- 22:05Speaker 1: She later told fortunes for a penny around the public
- 22:09Speaker 1: house of a convent garden and helped acquire girls from
- 22:12Speaker 1: Drury Lane's theaters for a brothel and Piccadilly Wow on
- 22:18Speaker 1: Drury Lane? What song is with that talks about Dreury Lane?
- 22:21Speaker 4: Do you know man? He lives on Drury Lane?
- 22:30Speaker 2: So Sarah said, fuck the muffin man. Okay, y'all d girls.
- 22:35Speaker 1: Come over here to Piccadilly, to Piccadilly honey.
- 22:40Speaker 2: Okay.
- 22:41Speaker 1: Rumor suggested that she did a little soliciting on the
- 22:43Speaker 1: side too.
- 22:44Speaker 2: Okay.
- 22:44Speaker 1: Yes, she found a husband he died, then another who
- 22:48Speaker 1: also died, curious and finally moved in with a man
- 22:51Speaker 1: named Philip Levinson. She continued to do odd jobs, a
- 22:55Speaker 1: bit of fortune telling here and there, a spot of
- 22:57Speaker 1: sex work there, until she founded her own beauty salon
- 23:00Speaker 1: in London's snobby Mayfair district. Hy Sarah was a.
- 23:03Speaker 4: Hustler Okay, yeah, I mean truly.
- 23:06Speaker 2: She's an entrepreneur.
- 23:07Speaker 1: It's a brand influencer and an all around queen.
- 23:12Speaker 4: Yeah, sex positive.
- 23:17Speaker 1: So rebranding herself this is when Rachel rebranded herself as
- 23:21Speaker 1: Madam Rachel. She remember her first name is Sarah, so
- 23:24Speaker 1: now she's going by Madame Rachel.
- 23:26Speaker 2: Her middle name.
- 23:26Speaker 1: We love a scammer who changes their name. We know
- 23:28Speaker 1: that's a part of any great scam.
- 23:30Speaker 4: Smart.
- 23:31Speaker 1: So she launched an ethically questionable cosmetic practice capitalizing on
- 23:35Speaker 1: Victorian women's desire for eternal youth, which that is just
- 23:39Speaker 1: the beauty industry now to period. Yeah, we haven't given
- 23:44Speaker 1: up that grift. I love that beauty commercials, like their
- 23:48Speaker 1: whole point seems to be to make you feel ugly
- 23:50Speaker 1: so that she'll buy it. Like, beauty commercials are never
- 23:53Speaker 1: like enhancing your natural beauty.
- 23:55Speaker 2: They're like, come here, you ugly, raggedy skank. If you
- 23:58Speaker 2: don't get this I cream, no one will love you.
- 24:01Speaker 1: Now, look at this beautiful woman that we have enhanced
- 24:04Speaker 1: beyond reality.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Don't you want to look like her?
- 24:08Speaker 4: Yes?
- 24:08Speaker 2: And the whole point is that you can't.
- 24:10Speaker 1: The whole point is that no one will ever be
- 24:11Speaker 1: able to look like a retouched photo of themselves in
- 24:14Speaker 1: real life, so you'll keep buying chick. So Madame Rachel
- 24:18Speaker 1: opened her salon in London's Bond Street with the words
- 24:21Speaker 1: beautiful Forever. I mean, can't fight with that painted above
- 24:25Speaker 1: the door. I don't want to just be beautiful for.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Now, beautiful for.
- 24:30Speaker 4: Like makeup for ever.
- 24:32Speaker 1: Yup, yup, and I love me to make up forever, honey.
- 24:35Speaker 1: So one of her first advertisements for the beauty store
- 24:37Speaker 1: appeared in the Morning Post Beautiful Women in all caps.
- 24:41Speaker 1: Okay she said here, ye hear ye, bad bitches.
- 24:47Speaker 2: I can't be mad at that. She said.
- 24:49Speaker 1: Madam Rachel begs to inform her lady patronesses, the nobility,
- 24:54Speaker 1: the aristocracy that she has opened her annual subscription list
- 24:59Speaker 1: for the supply her costly Arabian preparations for the restoration
- 25:04Speaker 1: and preservation of female loveliness.
- 25:08Speaker 4: That's beautifully written.
- 25:10Speaker 1: So I love this. She's telling you one, Hey, bad bitches. Also, hey,
- 25:14Speaker 1: rich bab bitches only okay. Also, we got foreign products.
- 25:19Speaker 1: We got that foreign over here. You can't even buy
- 25:21Speaker 1: this in the streets of London.
- 25:23Speaker 2: Okay. The muffin man ain't ever seen nothing that I'm saying. Okay.
- 25:28Speaker 1: So she's giving opulence, she's giving exclusivity, and also she's
- 25:34Speaker 1: giving pros.
- 25:35Speaker 2: This is beautifully.
- 25:36Speaker 4: Written, very well done.
- 25:37Speaker 2: So in eighteen sixties.
- 25:39Speaker 1: In the eighteen sixties, British women who wanted to wear
- 25:41Speaker 1: makeup had to do so on the downlow. In an
- 25:44Speaker 1: announcement that absolutely no one asked for, Queen Victoria declared
- 25:48Speaker 1: skin cosmetics to be vulgar and unladylike, fit for only
- 25:52Speaker 1: theater and the brothel.
- 25:54Speaker 2: According to the BBC, huh.
- 25:57Speaker 3: Clear, Come on, Queen Victory, are we know you paint
- 26:01Speaker 3: for the royal photos and the royal paintings. Do not
- 26:06Speaker 3: do not do that. But you know what, as soon
- 26:08Speaker 3: as someone comes out and says X, Y and Z
- 26:12Speaker 3: are vulgar and terrible, it's only a matter of time
- 26:14Speaker 3: before the teenagers start doing it. So like that was
- 26:17Speaker 3: a great endorsement Victoria.
- 26:19Speaker 1: And why Victoria like where bitches batter than you? And
- 26:23Speaker 1: you were like, we gotta we gotta have a little
- 26:26Speaker 1: royal decree that nobody.
- 26:27Speaker 2: Can be better than me.
- 26:29Speaker 1: Okay, Like this just feels like, you know, a this time,
- 26:34Speaker 1: people were very impoverished in lending, like there were real problems,
- 26:37Speaker 1: real illnesses.
- 26:39Speaker 2: Queen Victoria just feels like you.
- 26:40Speaker 1: Outline, you know, people chewing on, rubbing a little berry
- 26:43Speaker 1: on a lip or pinchon a chance.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Yeah, petty Yeah.
- 26:48Speaker 1: The Londoners were like, we need food, e Queen Victoria
- 26:52Speaker 1: was like, hey, yey, hey gee, not everyone can band
- 26:55Speaker 1: in me, so oh you bay bitch, is scrub your
- 26:57Speaker 1: haul at faces right now.
- 26:59Speaker 2: Or you'll be kid very very d VICKI, this is
- 27:04Speaker 2: not what we asked for. We wanted bloaves of bread.
- 27:06Speaker 2: We wanted we wanted a pincer too, honey, so we
- 27:10Speaker 2: could live what is happening. So at that.
- 27:14Speaker 1: Time, the only socialist acceptable way to alter your appearance
- 27:17Speaker 1: was to pinch your cheeks or bite your lips, which
- 27:20Speaker 1: that's literally what we just said. So you had to
- 27:22Speaker 1: beat pinching all day and biting all day.
- 27:25Speaker 4: No no, no no.
- 27:26Speaker 1: So fun fact, some women use beeswax on their lashes
- 27:29Speaker 1: to make them look thicker and for eyeliner. Some women
- 27:32Speaker 1: used burnt matches once they were cooled and rubbed that
- 27:35Speaker 1: you know, the smoky eye really came.
- 27:37Speaker 2: From smoke ye foot.
- 27:42Speaker 4: I love that.
- 27:43Speaker 1: I just imagine like a bunch of like babbages in London,
- 27:46Speaker 1: like crowding around the fire that just got put out
- 27:49Speaker 1: and just scooping up the coals and the ashes for
- 27:52Speaker 1: their new very yes, so I'm into it. So when
- 27:57Speaker 1: Madame Rachel opened up shop, rich women couldn't get in
- 28:00Speaker 1: line fast enough. I love this.
- 28:02Speaker 2: What an influencer opening.
- 28:03Speaker 1: It's like when Rihanna drops a shoe and we all
- 28:06Speaker 1: line up down the block. Okay, Madam Rachel. So, Madame
- 28:09Speaker 1: Rachel dresses to impress. She wore luscious robes, dripping jewels,
- 28:13Speaker 1: and crystal talismans around her neck. And a talisman is
- 28:17Speaker 1: like a stone or a ring or another object engraved
- 28:19Speaker 1: with figures or characters supposed to possess occult powers, and
- 28:23Speaker 1: it's worn like an amulet or a charm. So she said,
- 28:27Speaker 1: she got the creams and the eyeliners and the foundations,
- 28:29Speaker 1: and she also has the blood of Satan keeping her
- 28:32Speaker 1: a laugh around her neck.
- 28:33Speaker 3: Yes, you have to have a look if you're selling
- 28:38Speaker 3: a product, if you're the proprietor of a beauty shop,
- 28:42Speaker 3: you have to. It helps to have a look. And
- 28:45Speaker 3: she said, get into my talismans.
- 28:48Speaker 1: Witchy opulence, you know what I mean. That's just what
- 28:52Speaker 1: we call the sco now on instant.
- 28:55Speaker 4: I love that look, rab.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Run.
- 29:03Speaker 2: I love a sage girl.
- 29:05Speaker 1: You know a girl on instat who she's like putting
- 29:07Speaker 1: the sage up and she's doing the meditations and she
- 29:10Speaker 1: wears a lot of white and she whispers in her
- 29:13Speaker 1: videos like I love that whole vibe.
- 29:15Speaker 4: I love that too, very miss Rachel, Madame Rachel.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So some products and treatment she offered were
- 29:22Speaker 1: the Armenian beauty wash, the Turkish Golden hair wash, and
- 29:26Speaker 1: the Royal Arabian face cream.
- 29:28Speaker 2: So was she just trying to be like the Kardashi's.
- 29:31Speaker 4: But like she was. She absolutely was.
- 29:36Speaker 1: Before we had KKW Beauty, we had Madame.
- 29:39Speaker 3: Rachel, Madame Rachel turning at work.
- 29:43Speaker 1: Okay, So Madame Rachel peddled strange, extravagant cosmetics for astronomical prices,
- 29:49Speaker 1: including a one hundred and sixty dollars magnetic rock do
- 29:53Speaker 1: of the Sahara for removing wrinkles. Okay, so this sounds
- 29:56Speaker 1: like the first.
- 29:57Speaker 2: Like jade roller. She was like, I got a rock.
- 30:00Speaker 2: You girls too, rub this.
- 30:01Speaker 1: Rock on your face and they're like, Madame Rachel, my
- 30:03Speaker 1: face is bleeding. Oh yeah, that's just new face coming in.
- 30:06Speaker 1: That means it's gonna be cute. When the blood stop,
- 30:09Speaker 1: it's gonna be some new face and then that's gonna be.
- 30:11Speaker 4: Cute vampire facial.
- 30:13Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So inside each of her powders and creams
- 30:17Speaker 2: and washes, of course, lurked a toxic cocktail of chemicals.
- 30:20Speaker 2: The item was said to offer the appearance of increasing
- 30:23Speaker 2: youth to persons of considerable age. If something had the
- 30:26Speaker 2: power to burn off the skin of your face or
- 30:29Speaker 2: poison your mind, Madame Rachel probably sold it.
- 30:32Speaker 1: So she said, we got to burn it off to
- 30:33Speaker 1: get the Yeah, so that's awful.
- 30:36Speaker 2: This is bad.
- 30:37Speaker 1: Guys, like I wish she was just selling products and
- 30:39Speaker 1: making it up, not using actual poison. Like then the
- 30:42Speaker 1: girls are like, oh, my face is burning. Madam's like, yes,
- 30:44Speaker 1: that's what it's supposed.
- 30:45Speaker 4: To it's working. Yeah, yeah, no.
- 30:48Speaker 2: No, no, that's good. You said your face is peeling off. Yeah,
- 30:51Speaker 2: that means new face, new face is coming. This is
- 30:53Speaker 2: good for you.
- 30:54Speaker 1: So Rachel's trademark service was called Enameling. Oh that don't
- 30:58Speaker 1: sound good.
- 31:00Speaker 2: That don't sound good. Off Enammel, I don't want that
- 31:03Speaker 2: on my face.
- 31:04Speaker 1: What it claimed to lighten the lady's skin by removing
- 31:09Speaker 1: all the hairs on her face, then dowsing her with
- 31:11Speaker 1: an alkaline wash that one would normally use to clean
- 31:14Speaker 1: a toilet.
- 31:15Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, see this is that's not good. This
- 31:20Speaker 3: is the problem with the beauty industry. People will go
- 31:22Speaker 3: to great lengths.
- 31:24Speaker 2: Dangerous links.
- 31:25Speaker 1: You know, she said, no more wire hangers, but on
- 31:27Speaker 1: your face, like she put in the comment on your face,
- 31:31Speaker 1: Oh my god. So beyond beauty scams, Rachel ran a
- 31:36Speaker 1: series of other money making schemes. Rachel would charge men
- 31:39Speaker 1: to creep on women through peep holes during their privacy
- 31:42Speaker 1: in their Arabian baths. So she was doing the Arabian
- 31:45Speaker 1: baths and then she was cutting a little.
- 31:46Speaker 2: Hall in the Wow.
- 31:48Speaker 4: I don't like this.
- 31:50Speaker 2: She's a bad lady.
- 31:51Speaker 4: I don't.
- 31:51Speaker 2: I don't think we fuck with Rachel. She's a bad lady.
- 31:54Speaker 2: I feel like she could have just run some cool,
- 31:56Speaker 2: normal scams, like people hosses.
- 31:58Speaker 4: See.
- 31:59Speaker 3: This is where she loses me, because I almost I
- 32:03Speaker 3: almost would believe, like, okay, there are chemicals in it.
- 32:06Speaker 3: Maybe she didn't know, maybe she did. Maybe she really
- 32:09Speaker 3: just didn't know that it was poisonous.
- 32:12Speaker 4: I can give her that.
- 32:13Speaker 3: But they like I saw a hole in the bath
- 32:18Speaker 3: chamber and I'm gonna charge guys to line up and
- 32:23Speaker 3: take a look at unsuspecting beauty women.
- 32:27Speaker 2: That is disturbing and also just such a cartoon creepy
- 32:32Speaker 2: thing to do, like.
- 32:36Speaker 1: Very and I'm here trying to get my Arabian bath out.
- 32:39Speaker 1: I just hear a lot of deep breasts from the corner.
- 32:41Speaker 2: Like, Madame Rachel, what's that hole in the corner? Says,
- 32:43Speaker 2: what's that?
- 32:44Speaker 1: Oh, don't worry about that. That's just that's how we
- 32:46Speaker 1: let out the taxes. This is just the taxes being
- 32:48Speaker 1: let out. Well, I can't hear somebody bringing in, Madame Rachel.
- 32:50Speaker 2: Oh no, no, we got ghosts.
- 32:54Speaker 1: Did I tell you where?
- 32:55Speaker 3: Ghosts?
- 32:56Speaker 2: That's why I wear this amulet.
- 32:58Speaker 4: Right. Victorian goes, yah, that's cool.
- 33:00Speaker 2: There's this beauty ghost. They be chilling.
- 33:02Speaker 1: Honestly, it's all good like. So that's really fucked up.
- 33:05Speaker 1: So Rachel, I'm gonna fuck with you. This is gross.
- 33:07Speaker 2: In eighteen sixty eight, one of Rachel's clients Ms. Mary
- 33:10Speaker 2: Tucker Burroladale.
- 33:12Speaker 1: Oh lord, a colonial widow finally blew the whistle. Okay,
- 33:16Speaker 1: so she's a widow and she ain't got no mass
- 33:19Speaker 1: to be worried about in the colonial time. So she
- 33:21Speaker 1: got time on her hands, the original carry and we
- 33:24Speaker 1: love it. In this case, she put on her wig
- 33:25Speaker 1: and she said here ye hear ye bitch, which you're
- 33:27Speaker 1: not gonna do, and we love it. She had conned
- 33:31Speaker 1: one victim into believing a nobleman was madly in love
- 33:35Speaker 1: with her and wanted to marry her.
- 33:36Speaker 2: Wow. And Rachel milked Mary.
- 33:39Speaker 1: Of fourteen hundred dollars fourteen hundred pounds about two thousand
- 33:41Speaker 1: dollars US and her army widow's pension.
- 33:45Speaker 5: Wow.
- 33:45Speaker 1: So this is the widowed woman who was And Rachel
- 33:48Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I know somebody aristocorats who
- 33:51Speaker 1: will want to be with you girl. It's only gonna
- 33:53Speaker 1: cost you like fourteen hundred pounds.
- 33:55Speaker 4: He needs eyedrops though, so if you.
- 34:01Speaker 3: That holy name of the eye drop, but he needs
- 34:05Speaker 3: He got an accident and his eye has been acting up.
- 34:09Speaker 2: Acting up. Okay, the better to see you with, my dear.
- 34:12Speaker 2: He need to be able to see you. So we
- 34:14Speaker 2: didn't got to get the guy get into drops first.
- 34:16Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you're killing me. Yes, Alaska. So the
- 34:19Speaker 2: nobleman turned out to be some stage door johnny who
- 34:23Speaker 2: used peepoles to observe women during the bands.
- 34:26Speaker 4: No, not this guy, not one of those.
- 34:30Speaker 1: So a stage door johnny, for olden time language folks
- 34:33Speaker 1: is a man who frequents the theater for the purpose
- 34:35Speaker 1: of courting an actress or a chorus girl.
- 34:38Speaker 2: So basically, just like a thirsty group bee.
- 34:40Speaker 1: Oh okay, so maybe at the stage door, like hasis
- 34:43Speaker 1: leveto performance? Uh, you trying to go down to the
- 34:46Speaker 1: pub women stage.
- 34:48Speaker 3: Joy, Thank you for telling me what that is, because
- 34:52Speaker 3: there's this there's this queen named mister Dan who does
- 34:57Speaker 3: this intro to shows, that Casita del campo or we
- 35:00Speaker 3: see shows and he always says, now, don't be a
- 35:03Speaker 3: stage geor Johnny hanging around after the show, Darley, and
- 35:06Speaker 3: I never knew what it was, but I was like,
- 35:09Speaker 3: but now I understand the etymology the reference.
- 35:14Speaker 2: So thank you, yes, thank you. We love some historical references.
- 35:17Speaker 1: So now we all know what it is when you're
- 35:19Speaker 1: real thirsty and waiting after the show, and that makes
- 35:21Speaker 1: it okay, Eric, it's Eric out here, and you know
- 35:25Speaker 1: the girl they need to be quenched.
- 35:28Speaker 2: So yes, I also don't like that.
- 35:31Speaker 1: I mean, obviously she knows this guy has questionable morals,
- 35:33Speaker 1: so that's why she's rubed him into this scam. But
- 35:35Speaker 1: did you have to get myself married some peeping hole creep?
- 35:38Speaker 1: You couldn't just find somebody on the street and be like,
- 35:40Speaker 1: are you single? You're trying to be with Mary like
- 35:42Speaker 1: you had to go get the nastiest man, the man
- 35:44Speaker 1: who's sitting behind the peepole.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Probably don't watch Mary.
- 35:47Speaker 4: Right, no, no, no, no, no.
- 35:49Speaker 2: That's whack.
- 35:50Speaker 1: So Madame Rachel also regularly blackmailed women who couldn't pay
- 35:54Speaker 1: up front by offering them credit and later extorting them and.
- 35:58Speaker 2: Planning their jewels. Wow, she was a real criminal criminal,
- 36:03Speaker 2: She's a bad lady. Rumors began to circulate about the malpractice, intimidation,
- 36:07Speaker 2: and blackmail. At this point, Madame Rachel was making more
- 36:10Speaker 2: than twenty thousand pounds about twenty seven thousand US dollars
- 36:13Speaker 2: a year, which.
- 36:14Speaker 1: Is more than a million pounds or one point three
- 36:17Speaker 1: million in US dollars today. So she's making bank and
- 36:21Speaker 1: she's shaking the girls down, she's pipping the girls out,
- 36:25Speaker 1: she's exploiting all these innocent people. And then I don't
- 36:29Speaker 1: know why she didn't realize, like she was gonna have
- 36:30Speaker 1: to pick up and move at some point, like people
- 36:33Speaker 1: are gonna talk when everybody's missing a part of their
- 36:35Speaker 1: face at the next function, you know, the next ball,
- 36:40Speaker 1: when everybody's at the Bridgerton ball trying to get chosen,
- 36:42Speaker 1: half their face is gone, like bink.
- 36:44Speaker 4: Yeah, burned off. Oh my god, so.
- 36:48Speaker 1: Getting caught inevitably, Madame Rachel ran into the law as
- 36:52Speaker 1: numerous clients gathered cases of malpractice and intimidation. Some even
- 36:56Speaker 1: accused her of providing abortion inducing drugs and a brothel
- 37:01Speaker 1: above her shop.
- 37:02Speaker 3: Oh my god, Okay, well, I mean the brothel's fine, right,
- 37:07Speaker 3: Rachel didn't pick a lane for crime.
- 37:09Speaker 2: She said, I'm gonna do all the crime, the.
- 37:11Speaker 3: Whole free ways, Rachel ce.
- 37:17Speaker 4: Rest, this is like doing so much Mome, She's doing everything.
- 37:23Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you gotta admire for that. But
- 37:25Speaker 1: she's a bad lady. But she worked very hard in
- 37:27Speaker 1: the realm of crime. Okay, no one worked harder. So
- 37:31Speaker 1: she was prosecuted for fraud once in eighteen sixty eight
- 37:35Speaker 1: and again in eighteen seventy eight, and she finally went
- 37:37Speaker 1: to jail for five years after a retrial. So I
- 37:40Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if Madame Rachel was breaking off Madame
- 37:42Speaker 1: coins to whoever was in the judicial system to keep
- 37:44Speaker 1: her out of jail.
- 37:45Speaker 4: She was making banks, Yeah, probably, definitely.
- 37:48Speaker 1: We all know the judicial system can be bought if
- 37:50Speaker 1: you have the right amount of money. So however, on
- 37:54Speaker 1: her release, she re established herself as an Arabian perfumer
- 37:58Speaker 1: to the queen.
- 38:00Speaker 2: So she got out of jail and went right back
- 38:03Speaker 2: to it.
- 38:04Speaker 3: To the Queen, she said, I'm going straight to the top, darling.
- 38:09Speaker 1: Ain't nothing to it but to do it. And also
- 38:11Speaker 1: like who's going to stop her? Who's going to really
- 38:12Speaker 1: check with the queen and be like is this your performer?
- 38:16Speaker 4: Right? Oh my god, Madam.
- 38:19Speaker 2: Rachel, Madame Rachel is a bad lady and nice. We
- 38:26Speaker 2: do not endorse her. On the podcast, she said, how
- 38:29Speaker 2: can I do evil every day?
- 38:31Speaker 3: Like, like I could diversify my evil.
- 38:39Speaker 1: We're looking to expand into other, you know, realms of evil.
- 38:43Speaker 2: We want to be in every evil industry possible.
- 38:46Speaker 3: I'm hurting people, but I'm not hurting people enough. How
- 38:50Speaker 3: do I do it more?
- 38:53Speaker 2: Right?
- 38:53Speaker 1: It's just like, you know, no, I know we're in
- 38:54Speaker 1: the black and we're really making a lot of money
- 38:56Speaker 1: or you know, hurting people, but I.
- 38:58Speaker 2: Just think I don't know we could do right.
- 39:02Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking over here and I'm seeing worse
- 39:04Speaker 1: guys hurting more people. I want to hurt, you know, efficiently.
- 39:08Speaker 1: So she's a bad lady.
- 39:11Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Sarah Madame Rachel.
- 39:15Speaker 2: No no, And it's time for the saddest part at
- 39:20Speaker 2: the end of the show, when I have to let
- 39:22Speaker 2: Alaska thunder fuck go. But before we do.
- 39:25Speaker 1: That, we have one last little segment Scammer of the Week.
- 39:28Speaker 1: This is where we honor a charlatan who is maybe
- 39:31Speaker 1: worthy of our praise, maybe not. We'll just have to see. Obviously,
- 39:34Speaker 1: Madame Rachel was not. She was a criminal criminal. But
- 39:40Speaker 1: today we're talking about a scammer of the week where
- 39:43Speaker 1: a wedding with a bride and the groom were wedding
- 39:46Speaker 1: crashers and guys who all tagged me in this so much.
- 39:50Speaker 1: I got texts, I got emails, I got tagged on
- 39:52Speaker 1: every platform DM and I was like, I got y'all,
- 39:55Speaker 1: I got y'all. So we got two wedding crashers. Courtney
- 39:58Speaker 1: Wilson and Shaneita invited their friends and family to their
- 40:03Speaker 1: dream home and the state for their weekend wedding celebration
- 40:06Speaker 1: shown the ceremony Saturday and a brunch on Sunday.
- 40:10Speaker 2: There's just one problem. The couple didn't.
- 40:12Speaker 1: Own the sixteen thousand square foot mansion and didn't have
- 40:16Speaker 1: permission to use it. Okay, small problems, minor details, Oh.
- 40:19Speaker 2: My god, okay, right, which I find so fun.
- 40:22Speaker 1: Like the gall to send out wedding invitations and save
- 40:26Speaker 1: the dates for a house you know you definitely do
- 40:28Speaker 1: not own, is beautiful.
- 40:31Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I want to know.
- 40:34Speaker 1: I just ere the suburban Fort Lauderdale estate had everything.
- 40:38Speaker 1: A bowling alley, a swimming pool with a waterfall, hot tub,
- 40:41Speaker 1: tennis court, gazebo, and an eight hundred foot bar.
- 40:45Speaker 4: Well good.
- 40:48Speaker 2: It's like if you need a drink and run a marathon.
- 40:50Speaker 4: I love it.
- 40:52Speaker 3: I like to have a variety of locations at a bar,
- 40:56Speaker 3: so that's.
- 40:56Speaker 1: Perfect with which I can get drunk at.
- 40:59Speaker 2: We love So. Wilson said that it was God's plan
- 41:03Speaker 2: that the couple marry there. Come on God's plan, God's plan.
- 41:09Speaker 4: Oh amen, they said.
- 41:12Speaker 1: God came to them in a dream, and soa y'all
- 41:14Speaker 1: need to get married up. And here y'all, nuptial was
- 41:16Speaker 1: in this house you don't own.
- 41:17Speaker 2: Okay.
- 41:18Speaker 1: So despite what the invitation inferred, the actual owner, Nathan Finkel,
- 41:22Speaker 1: never gave them permission to hold their festivities there. He
- 41:25Speaker 1: was stunned when Wilson showed up Saturday morning to set
- 41:28Speaker 1: up and he called police. According to the South Florida
- 41:31Speaker 1: Sun Sentinel, Finkel told a nine won one dispatcher, I
- 41:34Speaker 1: have people trespassing on my property and they keep harassing me.
- 41:37Speaker 1: They say they're having a wedding here and it's God's message.
- 41:41Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. All I want is
- 41:43Speaker 1: for it to stop. And they're sitting at my property
- 41:45Speaker 1: right now at the front gate. Nathan, you could have
- 41:49Speaker 1: just let.
- 41:49Speaker 2: Them have they win. And they already told you.
- 41:51Speaker 1: God texted them and told them that they were supposed
- 41:53Speaker 1: to have a function.
- 41:56Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of a great plan. It's like
- 42:00Speaker 3: we invited everyone, like literally, everyone's coming. This is our
- 42:03Speaker 3: dream wedding, and if you don't let us trespass on
- 42:06Speaker 3: your home, you're going to ruin our big day. It's
- 42:09Speaker 3: sort of perfect if that happened. Like I don't know
- 42:12Speaker 3: who would be showing up to my house trying to
- 42:14Speaker 3: have a wedding here, but if they did, I might.
- 42:17Speaker 4: Be like, you know what, you guys, have a good time.
- 42:20Speaker 2: Use the eight hundred foot bar right No one is
- 42:23Speaker 2: using it today.
- 42:24Speaker 1: I'm like, also, Nathan Finkel, that sounds like such a
- 42:27Speaker 1: hater name, Nathan Finkel.
- 42:28Speaker 2: Are you happy. Is you happy, honey?
- 42:30Speaker 1: Like we know you're not okay. This could have been
- 42:32Speaker 1: your moment. You could have gone viral, y'all could have
- 42:35Speaker 1: just tiktoks and then next thing, you know, everybody loves
- 42:38Speaker 1: Nathan Finkel. This could have been your moment, but instead
- 42:40Speaker 1: you're decided to call twelve like a lame. Like right,
- 42:43Speaker 1: they showed you the text from Jesus and God saying
- 42:45Speaker 1: this was supposed to happen, like you know, like, guy,
- 42:48Speaker 1: what's wrong with you?
- 42:49Speaker 4: God's plan?
- 42:51Speaker 1: So two officers came and told Wilson he would have
- 42:53Speaker 1: to leave. The couple left and no charges were filed.
- 42:57Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it, said Wilson to
- 42:59Speaker 1: the local paper. The homeowner, Nathan Finkel, I.
- 43:02Speaker 2: Love that they took that quote about it, he said.
- 43:05Speaker 2: They said, can you give us a quote?
- 43:07Speaker 1: He said no, and then they took the article and said,
- 43:09Speaker 1: so we asked for a quote, and he said no,
- 43:12Speaker 1: I don't.
- 43:12Speaker 4: Want to talk about it.
- 43:15Speaker 2: Fair fair.
- 43:16Speaker 1: So the homeowner, Nathan Finkel, whose late father was an
- 43:19Speaker 1: early IHOP restaurant franchisee, has been trying to sell the
- 43:23Speaker 1: property for two years and now is listening it for
- 43:26Speaker 1: just over five million. Wilson posed as a potential buyer
- 43:29Speaker 1: and toured the estate several months ago. So that's how
- 43:32Speaker 1: he got to tour the estate and he said, well,
- 43:33Speaker 1: I man, am I wead in here?
- 43:35Speaker 4: There it is.
- 43:37Speaker 2: That's how he found the place.
- 43:38Speaker 1: So Finkel's attorney said, that guy figured that it was
- 43:41Speaker 1: a vacant house and didn't realize that Nathan lived on
- 43:43Speaker 1: the property in a different home, so he thought that.
- 43:47Speaker 1: So this guy had no idea that Nathan lived there.
- 43:49Speaker 1: And you know the shock that must have been on
- 43:51Speaker 1: his face when he showed up at the gate and.
- 43:52Speaker 2: The owner was home.
- 43:54Speaker 4: Wow.
- 43:55Speaker 1: Okay, here's what I gotta say about this, Nathan. You
- 43:59Speaker 1: could have let these people have their wedding. This could
- 44:01Speaker 1: have went viral. Then you would have had a lot
- 44:04Speaker 1: of eyes on the house. A lot of people would
- 44:05Speaker 1: have been looking at that eight hundred foot bar like,
- 44:07Speaker 1: oh that's cute, and maybe some millionaires would have pulled up.
- 44:10Speaker 3: And I agree, I agree at that moment, you just
- 44:14Speaker 3: kind of have to let go and let God because
- 44:17Speaker 3: you have to listen to God's advices. It could have
- 44:20Speaker 3: gone really great, and yeah, you're absolutely right.
- 44:24Speaker 1: God said these people are doing the electric slide on
- 44:26Speaker 1: your property, and today she should have said, amen, I
- 44:31Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you, okay, because you could
- 44:34Speaker 1: have got some great content out of this next thing.
- 44:35Speaker 1: We know, we see the house.
- 44:36Speaker 4: We know.
- 44:37Speaker 1: I guess you got a little viral. But you look
- 44:39Speaker 1: like the hater here, like let them have their wedding.
- 44:41Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.
- 44:42Speaker 2: And if you live on a property nearby, I don't
- 44:44Speaker 2: want to be your neighbor, Nathan, you a.
- 44:45Speaker 4: Hater, okay, right exactly?
- 44:48Speaker 2: Look too quick to call the cops too, like, oh,
- 44:51Speaker 2: they're harassing me? Were they harassing you?
- 44:53Speaker 1: If they're standing at the gate, that means they don't
- 44:54Speaker 1: have a key, right, So couldn't you just be like,
- 44:56Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you in.
- 44:58Speaker 4: What was their plan to get in? Though? Wonder?
- 45:01Speaker 2: I mean, do you know how to throw a wedding
- 45:03Speaker 2: cake over a fence?
- 45:04Speaker 4: I did you know? I've never done that. I've never
- 45:07Speaker 4: done that. I would take it apart and go tier
- 45:10Speaker 4: by tier.
- 45:11Speaker 2: Hmm, that's wise. I think you have one person climb over.
- 45:14Speaker 2: Maybe you bring some rope and you lower it down
- 45:16Speaker 2: slowly to the other side. I feel like this can
- 45:20Speaker 2: be done.
- 45:21Speaker 1: I feel like you can throw a whole wedding supplies
- 45:23Speaker 1: over a fence, and it could be cute.
- 45:26Speaker 3: But then how am I supposed to get my grandmother
- 45:31Speaker 3: over the fence. We'd have to figure out an option.
- 45:35Speaker 1: Well, what's one person's over the fence? We can then
- 45:37Speaker 1: work and open the gates. I have to scale all right, Okay, okay, but.
- 45:42Speaker 2: Some people's grannies are about that life you know.
- 45:44Speaker 4: You know, well that I think of it, Nana could
- 45:47Speaker 4: do it right.
- 45:48Speaker 2: And if Nana got life alert, what are we stressed about?
- 45:50Speaker 2: You know, she can't get up. She just hit the
- 45:52Speaker 2: little button. We're good, exactly. I see this going off
- 45:57Speaker 2: without a hitch. Personally.
- 46:01Speaker 1: I love touring the house though and then being like, mmm,
- 46:04Speaker 1: I feel like God is telling me to have my
- 46:06Speaker 1: wedding here.
- 46:06Speaker 4: You know what, this is the place, this is it?
- 46:09Speaker 4: This is it?
- 46:10Speaker 1: Like Nathan thought that you were trying to buy the
- 46:12Speaker 1: joint and you were like hmm okay, and then we
- 46:14Speaker 1: put the table over there, the DJ booth goes over there, yeah, yeah,
- 46:18Speaker 1: the DJ booth over the fence.
- 46:19Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, oh my god. Wow.
- 46:23Speaker 1: Well, I have to say I'm sorry to this couple
- 46:26Speaker 1: that you didn't get to have your big day there
- 46:28Speaker 1: I hope you started to go fundme to maybe rent
- 46:30Speaker 1: out a nice house for your wedding.
- 46:31Speaker 2: I feel like people would contribute.
- 46:33Speaker 4: Yeah, or a nice haul rent a hall.
- 46:39Speaker 1: Yeah, Nathan could have compromised here. You can at least
- 46:41Speaker 1: been like y'all got some coins to have your wedding here,
- 46:43Speaker 1: like make it work. The house is just sitting empty,
- 46:46Speaker 1: nonchim on.
- 46:46Speaker 3: The invitations went out, I do feel for them because
- 46:51Speaker 3: the guests are going to show up and like weddings
- 46:53Speaker 3: are stressful enough.
- 46:55Speaker 2: M Oh wow.
- 46:57Speaker 1: Can you imagine like guests pulling up and there's just
- 47:00Speaker 1: like cop cars and you all have to leave the premises.
- 47:03Speaker 3: Nathan's there just by himself that no, keep going, No,
- 47:08Speaker 3: it's not here.
- 47:09Speaker 1: Wow, Nathan, you could have been a hero and instead
- 47:12Speaker 1: you were a hater and we hate that for you,
- 47:15Speaker 1: we do. But guys, that brings us to the end
- 47:18Speaker 1: of another episode of Scam Guys Alaska. We always ask
- 47:20Speaker 1: on the show, where do you want people to find you?
- 47:24Speaker 3: On the well, I have this beautiful mansion that I'm
- 47:28Speaker 3: trying to sell and we'd like to come check it out.
- 47:33Speaker 2: No hold on, I got a text from God.
- 47:36Speaker 3: I'm on Instagram at the only Alaska five thousand, so
- 47:40Speaker 3: you can find me there or Alaskathunderfuck dot com.
- 47:44Speaker 4: You can find me on.
- 47:45Speaker 1: There as well, so you can see all of Alaska's
- 47:47Speaker 1: upcoming projects, including her special that is out right now.
- 47:53Speaker 3: It is is on out TV and Apple TV and
- 47:56Speaker 3: it's called Alaska Thunderfuck's Extra Special Comedy Special.
- 48:00Speaker 1: Yes, and as always, Scam goddesspot at gmail dot com,
- 48:03Speaker 1: snitch on your friends and family. We welcome and just
- 48:05Speaker 1: make sure that bag is retired. And if you want
- 48:07Speaker 1: to find me and my Shenanigans d I v A
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- 48:11Speaker 1: at Blacklay State Show Season two's out right now on
- 48:13Speaker 1: HBO and HBO Max. So if you want to watch
- 48:15Speaker 1: me scam my way into some characters on that show,
- 48:18Speaker 1: pull up and stream or watch it Friday's eleven PM. Yes, guys, Congregations,
- 48:27Speaker 1: Stay Schaming dam Goddess. Scam Goddess is starring Me Scam
- 48:34Speaker 1: Goddess aka Lacey Mosley. Scam Goddess is produced by Judith
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- 48:42Speaker 2: Stay Scaming