Latest / Paramount Wealth Perspectives / Markets Recalibrate: Inflation, Expectations, and the New Investment Playbook - 12/15/25
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- 0:00Chris Coyle: Intro song
- 0:11Hello everyone.
- 0:12Welcome to Paramount Wealth Perspectives, your go-to podcast for the latest updates on global markets and current economic events.
- 0:19This is your host, Chris Coyle.
- 0:21I am the market director and an advisor here at Paramount Associates Wealth Management, and today I'm joined by our Chief Investment Officer, Scott Tremlin.
- 0:29Let's start with last week because a lot of people expected a very different reaction.
- 0:34The Fed cut rates, yet mortgage rates and longer term yields didn't really cooperate.
- 0:39Walk us through what actually happened.
- 0:42Yeah, and this is where headlines can really mislead people.
- 0:45Last week was a perfect example of why the Fed doesn't directly control the rates that matter most.
- 0:51To households and investors, the Fed cut short term rates, but markets immediately focused on what the cut signaled and not the cut itself meaning, meaning the first cut isn't a victory lap.
- 1:05It's often an emission that something is slowing, and when inflation is sticky, markets don't hear relief.
- 1:12They hear uncertainty.
- 1:14So instead of long-term rates falling.
- 1:16Investors demanded more compensation for inflation risk and fiscal risk that pushed longer term yields higher, and mortgage rates followed.
- 1:26So for people watching from the outside, it probably felt backwards.
- 1:30That's the key.
- 1:31People think fed cuts equal lower mortgage rates, but mortgage rates live in the long end of the bond market, and that part of the market is obsessed with inflation credibility if inflation isn't clearly beaten.
- 1:44The first cut can actually make markets nervous.
- 1:47That policy is getting ahead of itself.
- 1:50And inflation is the key word there it is.
- 1:53The concern last week wasn't runaway inflation, but persistent inflation services, inflation, housing related costs, wages enough to keep long-term investors cautious.
- 2:06That's why we saw the front end behave one way in the backend of rates another.
- 2:11Let's bring that into this week.
- 2:13What's the market really focused on right now?
- 2:16This week is about digestion.
- 2:18Markets are stepping back and asking, okay, if rates aren't coming down quickly, what does that mean for growth, earnings and positioning?
- 2:28You can see it in the way that different parts of the market are reacting.
- 2:31How so?
- 2:32Well, cyclicals have held up better than people expected.
- 2:36Credit hasn't cracked equity volatility is contained.
- 2:40That tells you markets aren't panicking, but they're recalibrating.
- 2:44The idea that we're going back to zero rates anytime soon is fading fast.
- 2:50And that's a big shift from earlier in the year, huge shift.
- 2:53Earlier markets were pricing a clean disinflation story with rapid cuts.
- 2:58Now it's more of a higher, for longer, but not restrictive forever environment.
- 3:03That's a very different playbook.
- 3:05Does that change how people should think about risk?
- 3:08What changes where risk is?
- 3:11The risk isn't that rates are too high.
- 3:14It's assuming they'll bail out every bad decision.
- 3:17That's no longer a safe assumption.
- 3:20Markets are rewarding.
- 3:21Balance sheet quality, cashflow, durability, and income.
- 3:24Again, let's talk about inflation expectations, specifically consumer confidence data came out recently and it painted a pretty clear picture what stood out to you.
- 3:34Consumers are still uneasy.
- 3:37they may not expect inflation to reaccelerate dramatically, but they don't feel like it's behind them either.
- 3:44That matters because inflation psychology drives behavior spending, borrowing and wage demands, and that feeds back into rates.
- 3:53Exactly.
- 3:54Long-term rates don't just care about current inflation prints.
- 3:58They care about whether inflation expectations are anchored.
- 4:01When confidence weakens.
- 4:03And inflation anxieties linger.
- 4:05Bond markets demand a premium, so again, not a fed problem as much as credibility problem, right?
- 4:14The fed can cut, pause, or hike, but markets decide whether that policy feels appropriate right now.
- 4:21Markets are saying, we're not convinced inflation risk is gone.
- 4:25Let's zoom out to 2026, because that's where a lot of forward-looking investors are focused.
- 4:31What do earnings expectations look like?
- 4:33Well, earnings expectations for 2026 are still constructive, but they're becoming more selective.
- 4:39This isn't about everything growing together anymore.
- 4:43Dispersion is a story, Meaning winners and losers.
- 4:46Separate more clearly.
- 4:47Exactly.
- 4:48Companies with pricing power, productivity gains, and strong margins are positioned well.
- 4:54Others that relied on cheap capital or financial engineering are going to feel pressure.
- 5:01The cost of capital actually matters again.
- 5:04How does AI fit into that conversation?
- 5:06Well, AI is less about revenue hype, and more about margin transformation over the next few years.
- 5:12The real earnings impact comes from cost efficiency and not just growth.
- 5:17That's why quality businesses adopting technology intelligently.
- 5:21Matters so much.
- 5:23So not a broad tech trade.
- 5:25No, it's not 2021.
- 5:27It's about execution and not exposure.
- 5:30If we tie this back into markets overall, what's your base case for 2026?
- 5:35Well, it, it's more of a world with a slower but resilient growth inflation that continues to cool but doesn't collapse, and rates that stay structurally higher.
- 5:46Than the last decade.
- 5:48That environment doesn't kill markets.
- 5:50It just changes the leadership.
- 5:53And what about volatility higher than the ultra calm years, but healthier volatility forces discipline.
- 6:00It separates investing from speculation.
- 6:03Let's talk about bonds for a minute, because higher for longer doesn't mean bonds are broken, but a lot of people still think that, yeah, bonds aren't broken at all.
- 6:13They're just behaving like bonds.
- 6:14Again, for years, they were distorted by zero rates and massive central bank intervention.
- 6:20Now income is real.
- 6:21And yield actually means something.
- 6:24So how should people think about fixed income today?
- 6:27Well, really as a source of stability and income and not just a hedge, you're starting to get paid to wait again.
- 6:33That is incredibly valuable, especially when equity markets aren't delivering smooth returns.
- 6:40Does the timing of bond maturity still matter anymore?
- 6:44It does, but flexibility matters more.
- 6:46You don't need to make an all or nothing bet on rates collapsing a diversified approach across durations, lest you participate if rates fall without being punished if they don't, and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there aren't other opportunities out there in lieu of bonds, and we've spoken about those before.
- 7:06Absolutely.
- 7:07And circling back to inflation, you've said a few times that inflation isn't the headline risk anymore.
- 7:12It's the persistence that matters.
- 7:15Can you expand on that?
- 7:16Sure.
- 7:17Inflation today isn't about shock events.
- 7:19It's about embedded costs, housing services, insurance, labor.
- 7:25Those don't reverse overnight, even if headline inflation drifts lower, the bond market cares about whether those pressures fully normalize, and that feeds back into long-term yields again, every time.
- 7:38That's why you can't assume rate cuts automatically translate into lower borrowing costs.
- 7:43Markets want proof and not promises.
- 7:46One thing investors are also asking about is the consumer, are they holding up or are cracks starting to form?
- 7:53Well, it's really a tale of two consumers we've talked about before.
- 7:56Higher income households are still spending and relatively insulated while lower and middle income consumers are starting to feel the pressure from rates, prices, and affordability.
- 8:07Does that show up in earnings?
- 8:09It does.
- 8:10You're seeing it in margins, pricing strategies and guidance.
- 8:15Companies serving higher end consumers look very different from those exposed to the stretch balance sheets.
- 8:21Again, dispersion.
- 8:23Let's talk about small caps for a moment.
- 8:25They've had a bit of resurgence recently.
- 8:28Is that sustainable?
- 8:29Parts of it may be.
- 8:31Uh, small caps benefit from cyclical improvement and domestic exposure, but they're also more rate sensitive.
- 8:38So if rates stay higher, longer quality within small caps matters just as much as it does elsewhere.
- 8:45So not a blanket endorsement, Chris.
- 8:48Never a blanket endorsement.
- 8:50That's the theme of this entire conversation.
- 8:53Broad narratives are fading and the details are what matter.
- 8:56Now, as we look toward 2026 again, what do you think markets are still underestimating.
- 9:02I think really just the adjustment process.
- 9:05People underestimate how long it takes markets to adapt to a new regime.
- 9:10We're coming out of an era defined by free money, essential bank backstops.
- 9:15That mindset doesn't unwind in a quarter or two.
- 9:18And that creates behavioral risk.
- 9:20Exactly.
- 9:21Investors keep waiting for the old playbook to work again.
- 9:25The longer it doesn't, the more frustration builds.
- 9:28That's usually when mistakes happen.
- 9:30Chasing, panic, selling, or over concentration.
- 9:34If you had to summarize the mindset investors should carry into the next year, what would it be?
- 9:39Really patience over prediction, preparation, over reaction.
- 9:45You don't need to guess every fed move or inflation print.
- 9:48You need a portfolio that can withstand different outcomes.
- 9:52That sounds simple, but it's not easy.
- 9:55Uh, it never is, but simple and boring usually outperforms exciting and fragile over time.
- 10:02Final question before we wrap up this section.
- 10:05If someone is feeling uneasy right now, what's the most important thing they should remember?
- 10:10Really, that discomfort doesn't mean something is broken.
- 10:14It often means markets are normalizing.
- 10:17Volatility, rotation, and uncertainty.
- 10:20The price of long-term returns.
- 10:23The goal isn't to eliminate them, is to manage them intelligently, and that brings us full circle.
- 10:29It does this environment rewards investors who stay disciplined, diversified, and focused on fundamentals.
- 10:37The Fed matters, but it's not the whole story.
- 10:40The market is bigger than any single meeting or headline.
- 10:44Let's bring this home for investors listening.
- 10:47With everything we've discussed, fed cuts, inflation concerns, earning expectations, what actually matters most right now?
- 10:55I think three things.
- 10:56First, stop reacting to headlines.
- 10:59Fed decisions are inputs, not outcomes.
- 11:03Second, focused on income and resilience.
- 11:06Cash flows matter again.
- 11:08And third, accept that timing beats prediction.
- 11:12You don't need perfect foresight, you need durability.
- 11:17So less about betting on cuts, more about building portfolios that can live in this environment.
- 11:22Exactly.
- 11:23This isn't a market that rewards shortcuts.
- 11:26It rewards discipline.
- 11:28Diversification and patience.
- 11:31If you get those right, you don't need the Fed to save you.
- 11:34That's a strong note to end on.
- 11:36It's the reality we're investing in, whether people like it or not.
- 11:40One thing I want to push on a bit more is this idea of discipline.
- 11:44A lot of investors say they're disciplined, but markets like this tend to expose whether that's actually true.
- 11:50That's exactly right.
- 11:52Discipline sounds easy when markets are going straight up.
- 11:55It's a lot harder when leadership rotates, rates stay elevated and narratives break down.
- 12:02What we're seeing now is a market that's forcing people to earn their returns again.
- 12:07Earn them exactly how.
- 12:08By being selective, by understanding what you own and why you own it for the last decade, you could get away with having high risk and letting multiple expansion do the work in a higher for longer rate environment that doesn't fly.
- 12:23Cash flows, balance sheets, and valuations matter again.
- 12:27And that shows up clearly in the dispersion that we're seeing.
- 12:30Absolutely.
- 12:31The gap between strong and weak businesses is widening.
- 12:35That's not a bad thing.
- 12:36It's actually healthy.
- 12:38It creates opportunity for active decisions and thoughtful portfolio construction.
- 12:43Awesome.
- 12:43Thanks Scott, as always, myself and our listeners, appreciate your insights.
- 12:47Thanks, Chris.
- 12:48I'll catch you again in two weeks.
- 12:50I also want to thank our audience for tuning in and remember to please submit your questions via email to general@paramountassoc.com.
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