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Almost Famous In Depth: Andrew Spencer · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous in Depth.
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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. I
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  Speaker 1: have two men here with me who do fantastic accents,
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  Speaker 1: and they would like to stay in accents the entire time. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I think that would be very admirable for the people
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  Speaker 1: out there for us to hear like these. Um, this
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  Speaker 1: is how I normally talk, and Justin carries an accent
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  Speaker 1: as well. I'm pretty yeah, I'm just a guy from
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore here. I can't even attempt an accent. But Andrew
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  Speaker 1: is so good. Actually, you know, I've actually been talked
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  Speaker 1: by a lot of people from London that it sounds
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  Speaker 1: pretty legit. So I like, it's like one of my
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  Speaker 1: highest honest, it's amazing if you're picked up girls like
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  Speaker 1: that all the time. So when I used to actually
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  Speaker 1: it's the reason why that was the reason I came
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  Speaker 1: out of the limit like this, because this is my
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  Speaker 1: like trick when I went to When I went out,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well I'm gonna talk to
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  Speaker 1: this girl and then just do this pretty accident. Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: the from London and she wants to talk to me,
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  Speaker 1: say would work. And then actually one time some girl
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  Speaker 1: pulled a shot on my head because I told him
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  Speaker 1: actually wasn't from there, and she was like, Chicago women,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta love him. Was this before or after Bachelorette? Before? Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: you're allowed to be in either voice. I probably is
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  Speaker 1: a little like, yeah, you should probably regular because then
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  Speaker 1: we're really weirded out? Is that the guy that was
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  Speaker 1: on our screen? Okay? Well, welcome to an in depth
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  Speaker 1: podcast with Andrew Spencer. Today. Ben is out, so I
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  Speaker 1: am co hosted by Justin Glai is one of Andrew's
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  Speaker 1: best friends. So happy to be here. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. So you guys were doing um in depth
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  Speaker 1: with both of these guys. There are some answers that
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  Speaker 1: you may be wondering throughout either of the podcasts that
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  Speaker 1: kind of pertained to both of them, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: why weren't you the lead or what happened in paradise
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  Speaker 1: with this situation or your friend in that In that case,
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we're answering all the questions between both.
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  Speaker 1: But if there's like a lingering question you're wondering, why
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  Speaker 1: didn't broach it here? Chances are you should probably go
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  Speaker 1: and listen to the other podcast, and you'll probably get
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  Speaker 1: the answer. So I just kind of want to preface that.
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  Speaker 1: And now we're going to dive in with Andrew the
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  Speaker 1: same way that we dived in with Justin in his
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  Speaker 1: in depth. So where were you born and who were
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  Speaker 1: you born to? Oh? Um? I was born in Lake Forest, Illinois, Um,
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  Speaker 1: just outside of Chicago. UM lived there my whole life
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  Speaker 1: pretty much. Um to Phillis. It's my mother's name. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she's the best. Um. Yeah, and you know I did. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I lived in here for a while and moved over
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  Speaker 1: to Europe for four years. So I lived there for
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  Speaker 1: a while. Um, and then I got on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah okay. So he was just telling us in his
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  Speaker 1: British accent that he got on the show because he
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  Speaker 1: was like living in Europe or something, and I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know whether take you seriously or not. That's
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  Speaker 1: a true story. So um. Well, obviously my cousin's Clay,
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  Speaker 1: who was on The Bachelor, Clay Harbor. You may remember
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  Speaker 1: him from UM, I guess it was like whose season
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  Speaker 1: was he? Becca? Okay, and then um came to I
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  Speaker 1: was actually on that season as well. In his like
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  Speaker 1: pre his intro package, video really chicken. They told me
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  Speaker 1: they wouldn't put the eating scenes in, but I'm just
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  Speaker 1: like grambling down, Well, they'll put the eating scenes in
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  Speaker 1: if you're not a cast member. I'm just freaking my
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  Speaker 1: whole mouth, like this was my big moment and I
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  Speaker 1: just ruined. It's so funny. Okay. But then he became
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  Speaker 1: known with his relationship with Angela in Paradise As was
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  Speaker 1: his big storyline that, yeah, we met her a couple
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  Speaker 1: of times. Okay, so let's go back to Europe. Yeah, so, um,
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  Speaker 1: I played football. You know, I had a chance um
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL with the Cleveland Browns. Got cut and
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  Speaker 1: then you know, I went to another league that was
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  Speaker 1: in the States and that fell through that league and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well, I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: I really want to do. So then I, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I got reached out to and they're playing football in Europe.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I don't I've never left the country,
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  Speaker 1: so my family just doesn't travel a lot, like besides Clay,
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  Speaker 1: but like you know, my family has always been in
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  Speaker 1: the same spots and I've always wanted to be different.
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, I hopped on the flight
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  Speaker 1: in like a week after they asked me, and I
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  Speaker 1: was out there in Vienna, Austria. Um. And then I
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  Speaker 1: just loved it so much. I just kept coming back.
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  Speaker 1: And then Clay was like. I was hanging out with
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  Speaker 1: Clay a little bit and they're like, yeah, man, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get you on the show. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh whatever. And I had a birthday actually, um, and
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to throw a themed party. I threw up
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  Speaker 1: a Harry Potter party. Well, like the innocence of this
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  Speaker 1: man is so um, and I wanted to, like my
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  Speaker 1: my friends go really hard theme parties. And like we're like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, well for him to do it, we gotta
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  Speaker 1: go hard. I was like, yeah, So I dyed my
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  Speaker 1: hair blonde because I wanted to be Draco Malfoy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I knew his hair was blonde right before the show,
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  Speaker 1: but I never knew until this very moment, because you
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  Speaker 1: want to be Draco. So I'm in a call with
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  Speaker 1: like the Bachelor in producers. I'm like, hey, guys, this
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  Speaker 1: is my natural hair color. Like I'm not blond like
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  Speaker 1: I I you know, I explained to him I had
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  Speaker 1: a birthday party and they loved it. So I think
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  Speaker 1: That's probably what got me on the show. They probably
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  Speaker 1: thought I was like the weird ones. I was kind
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  Speaker 1: of spruce it up. I don't think they had entailed
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  Speaker 1: what was going to actually happen though. So he said,
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  Speaker 1: you were born to Phyllis. Is your dad in the picture?
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  Speaker 1: What's your family? The nuclear family looked like growing up
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  Speaker 1: family is Um, the dad's situation is very different, difficult.
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  Speaker 1: I would say, you know, when I was five, he
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  Speaker 1: got locked up. I haven't seen him. He's been there
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  Speaker 1: since then. It's by like twenty five years. I think
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  Speaker 1: he gets out in a year or so. Um. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm very like big mama's boy. I'm a baby of four,
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  Speaker 1: so my mom has been a single parent, so she's
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  Speaker 1: like my hero. So I'm like a really big mom
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  Speaker 1: was in that aspect. Yeah, she's got a lot. I mean, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my my brothers were some some bad eggs
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  Speaker 1: at times, but uh, you know, we all played sports
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  Speaker 1: to put us through sports, and um, you know, I've
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  Speaker 1: always carried that like um pressure or like to just
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  Speaker 1: kind of like get my mom out of the situation
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  Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. So why football was
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  Speaker 1: such a big thing and when football fell through I
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  Speaker 1: was like crushed. I was like, oh my god. And
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  Speaker 1: then um went on the Bachelor. Just for different experiences
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I'm just at the point I was
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  Speaker 1: living in Europe, was like all right, well things are
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  Speaker 1: just you know, I'm living now. You know, I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: some think she's gonna be proud of me just being
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  Speaker 1: able to kind of live a different life and like
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  Speaker 1: this is you know, for not a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: gets to be able to do what I got to do.
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  Speaker 1: Did I get to go on the show and then
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  Speaker 1: now he got on the show and and things. I
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  Speaker 1: took my mom for Christmas to Disney last week, so
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  Speaker 1: the first time we're all going on a vacation together. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So that was really fun. It was really like something
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  Speaker 1: I've always wanted to do. Um. So yeah, I know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just it's been a bit a lot of blessings.
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  Speaker 1: So that's so awesome. So you you have this mentality
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  Speaker 1: that you want to rom com which is amazing because
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  Speaker 1: that's the mentality that I've always had. Why do you
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  Speaker 1: think that's so instilled in your hearts? Oh my mom? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I've seen just like the women and
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  Speaker 1: just like the relationships in my in my family are
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  Speaker 1: never strong. Like I'm sitting sitting here and hearing about
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  Speaker 1: how your fans went thirty years. I'm like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: like that's you don't understand, like how amazing that is,
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  Speaker 1: like because compared to my family, it's it's always like
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  Speaker 1: single parents. There's a lot of single parents. Um, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I would always watch movies on the couch
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  Speaker 1: with my mom. Was we're living one one television household
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  Speaker 1: and we're always watching Round Count. She I grew up
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  Speaker 1: on Sleepless in Seattle, and um, you've got mail and
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  Speaker 1: you know, like all the old like really goocy stuff
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  Speaker 1: in Hallmark movies. So and like I said, I was
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  Speaker 1: a mom was what. I was the youngest four, So
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  Speaker 1: I was always clung to mom and just kind of
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  Speaker 1: watching them. I was like, okay. And then as I
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  Speaker 1: got older, I'm like I'm starting to get like my
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  Speaker 1: own little round gund Like I just I just felt
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  Speaker 1: like that was like out of a movie. And those
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  Speaker 1: moments kept happening. I'm just like I love it, like
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  Speaker 1: I need more of it. Give us these moments from
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  Speaker 1: there was a moment um in New Year's Uh, there
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  Speaker 1: was a there was a new Year's I met a girl.
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  Speaker 1: She was the host at a bar and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, and like I was like stumbled. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, she's so beautiful whatever, and she like I
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  Speaker 1: was like trying to tell us the seed and she
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  Speaker 1: was like the time, just following me, and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that was weird. And then she she sits down and um,
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  Speaker 1: I knew one of the one of the waitresses there,
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  Speaker 1: one of my friends. I was like, yo, who is
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  Speaker 1: the girl who's the host? Was like, no way. She
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  Speaker 1: was literally just saying that you were in super cute
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  Speaker 1: and that she like stumbled her words. So I was
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  Speaker 1: like oh. I was like, oh my god. I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get her my information. I was gonna go down
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  Speaker 1: there and talk to her, but I think she had
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  Speaker 1: just got off work. Um So I hit her up
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram and I was like, oh, I would love
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  Speaker 1: to like get to see you or whatever, like what's
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  Speaker 1: your number? This and that, And we didn't talk for
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  Speaker 1: like a month or two, and it comes back to
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  Speaker 1: another like New Year's thing for me. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: it was like, are you in the robin cop it?
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  Speaker 1: Literally so it's December thirty one and I'm like I
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  Speaker 1: don't have any plans. I'm like, all right, well I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna hit this girl up. I forgot all about like
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  Speaker 1: you know, you just get busy and I'm like, hey, um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what your plans are. What are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: And me and my boy were just like all my
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  Speaker 1: friends are dating someone or well now they're all married
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  Speaker 1: pretty much, and I'm like scavenging for like what friends
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  Speaker 1: I have that aren't who's a single friend that you
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  Speaker 1: can go out with me? Uh? This is before right before. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm like, all right, I find my boy and
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  Speaker 1: my guy. I was like, yo, you wanna do anything.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, let's have a night. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh that's a great phrase. But I was we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have a night. And he's like, yeah, my friends are
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  Speaker 1: going to this place called Old Crow and she's like okay. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I asked the girl. I was like where are you going?
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  Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, I'm going to Old Crows. Like,
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  Speaker 1: no freaking way, we we we just got recommended together,
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  Speaker 1: Like we're going there, So I buy a ticket. It's
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  Speaker 1: like I hope to see you there. We get there
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  Speaker 1: at Old Crow later tonight and you know, just having
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  Speaker 1: a good time, like cutting loose. I told you, like
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  Speaker 1: losing track of time. And the guy goes thirty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody thirty minutes to the ball drop and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, I haven't found her. Like the bar
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  Speaker 1: is packed. I'm like, oh my god. I'm like showing
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  Speaker 1: everyone this is the girl. Go finding the girl, and
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  Speaker 1: like we're on search parties, like these guys are like
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  Speaker 1: shooting out like looking forwards, like, oh, man's all right,
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  Speaker 1: did I couldn't see her? I was like I did
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  Speaker 1: see her either, So like freet it, it's like eleven,
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  Speaker 1: like it's five minutes to the ball. So I get
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  Speaker 1: to the I get to the bar, I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just gonna pound two drinks, like another year without a
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  Speaker 1: New Year's kiss um. And I turned around and I
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  Speaker 1: see her. She's talking to two guys. I'm like, fun,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch my crush kissed two guys or one
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  Speaker 1: of these guys. Like this is painful. So turned back
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  Speaker 1: around whatever, I choked both my drinks, turned back around.
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  Speaker 1: She like sees me, She like moves these guys out
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  Speaker 1: of the way. I've been looking for you all day.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, no way, I have it searched
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  Speaker 1: for you. Three to one boomed freaking New Year's kiss
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  Speaker 1: right out, Like we said, two works to each other
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  Speaker 1: and the next year we're kissing for New Year's incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, So that was like that was like
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  Speaker 1: one of my round cons that have happened. I chaired
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  Speaker 1: that moment because it was just really cool. And when
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  Speaker 1: when was this? This was like right before COVID, So
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  Speaker 1: that's why we broke up or stop talking. So if
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  Speaker 1: actually if I'm if I'm tracking. So we've got about
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  Speaker 1: two years ago now this rom come on New Year's.
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  Speaker 1: Last year shot the shot manifested Teddy on New Years.
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  Speaker 1: We got New Year's coming up. I'm stay tuned for
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  Speaker 1: this New Year's goes. Wow, you're gonna be there for
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  Speaker 1: this one? Is this the Jonas brother? Um football games? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Four days later? So what's the plan for New Year's
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  Speaker 1: And whose d ms are we sliding into this year?
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  Speaker 1: Give us a name that we know? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I just kind of wanna, you know, I think I'm
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  Speaker 1: done putting pressure on anything. I kind of want to
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  Speaker 1: meet someone organically, um as much as possible. Obviously, if
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  Speaker 1: someone meets up like that'd be nice. But um, the
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  Speaker 1: more organic, the better, you know. I feel like I've
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  Speaker 1: had more success with women when it just comes like
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  Speaker 1: happens out of natural. Um, the more time I try to, like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I suck. I suck when I try
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  Speaker 1: to plan to meet up or be with someone, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just like it's awkward and if it feels forced
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  Speaker 1: because we know we have like a like a connection
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  Speaker 1: with each other, you know what I mean. So like
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  Speaker 1: when I meet people and we just we don't know
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  Speaker 1: yet and I'm just like fishing to see how what works,
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  Speaker 1: and it starts to land, I'm like, see, this is
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  Speaker 1: one of my best you know what I mean. Like,
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  Speaker 1: had I not gone out on the beach with a plan,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I would have done so much better. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and we've been a lot more smooth. But like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I get nervous when I like people, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: I want them to like me and I want to
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  Speaker 1: get to a point where I know where I'm good,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like the first couple
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  Speaker 1: instances I suck, I'm like so bad. So like I'm
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  Speaker 1: just like trying to get to a part where I'm
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  Speaker 1: just like all right. Well, I'm very comfortable now, Like
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm just shooting my shot and whatever happens happens.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of like what I'm going into. Um, that's
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  Speaker 1: New Year's with So you've told us last night that
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  Speaker 1: you've been going on a lot of dates and you
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  Speaker 1: don't believe in dinner dates. Explain why, um, and explain
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  Speaker 1: how you're finding these dates, what you're doing on these dates,
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  Speaker 1: and then speak to you know, everybody out there obviously,
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  Speaker 1: but to this man who will be holding the mike,
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  Speaker 1: who says that he hasn't been on a date in
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  Speaker 1: a long long time. Yeah, no, Um, dates are just
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  Speaker 1: like trial runs. And I hate to put it like that,
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  Speaker 1: but like you never know until you do it, like
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  Speaker 1: try it. So I went and tried it, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, he's like, hey, this was a
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  Speaker 1: lovely time. You know, I just don't think it'll work.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's not wrong to communicate with women that way,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, not everyone I go
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  Speaker 1: on a date with it's coming back with me or
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  Speaker 1: like you know, in that case, you know that's not
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  Speaker 1: the goal for me. Like I told you, I'm like
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  Speaker 1: I'm pushing the envelope. I am ready for family. What's
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  Speaker 1: your vetting process, like, you know, for you to decipher
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  Speaker 1: who are you going to go on a date with
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  Speaker 1: or not? You know, how long is that pretty talk
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  Speaker 1: period before you meet up with him in person? Um?
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  Speaker 1: I I don't like to cut. I got cut straight
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  Speaker 1: to the chase. It's like, all right, well, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna sit here in Twitter fingers and wait for you
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  Speaker 1: to respond or play the I'm gonna wait until you know,
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  Speaker 1: five minutes to respond. Like I'm like, hey, let's hang out.
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  Speaker 1: You wanna hang out, Let's go, let's go grab a drink,
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  Speaker 1: or let's you know, let's go for a walk. The
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  Speaker 1: last day I was on we we made a gingerbread house.
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  Speaker 1: Those are the dates I'm doing. That is the most
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  Speaker 1: wholesome thing I've ever That's That's what I told you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking for a wholesome woman like and if she
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  Speaker 1: can't make gingerbread houses with me, I mean, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's probably not gonna seven invited to go over
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  Speaker 1: to the house. Though, So does that have like any
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  Speaker 1: preconceived notion they know it shouldn't. It shouldn't. But if
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  Speaker 1: it's an easier step if we're gonna get there, like
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: we don't have to, like so you're going to my house,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: are already here, you know, so if it does work
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: out very well then that it's not I'll give you
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Uber back to your play. Yeah. No, I mean I
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: feel like and that's it's just like a different style
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: of dating. I guess I'm I'm more so typically the
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: type where like all my vetting process is a little
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: bit longer because you know, in a lot can get
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: lost in like translation with a text or you know,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: even calling some times. But I don't like to put
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: myself in situations where I'm like, I'm in person with
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: this person and I'm not gonna be like I've done
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: it before, right, And it's just I want to know
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that I'm gonna be able to have a good time
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: with this person. Um, and I just I don't know,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I don't like to throw myself out there and like
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: you know, like Andrew go and like you know his dates,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: like he'll go walk around Chicago with somebody, right, And
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I just don't want to like do that
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: with somebody that I don't know if I'll be comfortable with.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: And I kudos to here. I respect you know you
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: you you know, you never know until you try it.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: But I'm more so like I'm such an introverted extrovert,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Like I loving around people. I'm very social, but I
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: also value my alone time and I'm cool with just
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: like chilling and painting in my house by myself. And
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: then I'm like, okay, Like it takes a lot for
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: me to be like I want to see this person
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: in person and like and hang out, you know. I
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: just like to know people not behind like the phone
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: for sure, you know, And I can't read emotion. I
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: have a very good judge of character, I feel like,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: and like, once I'm with someone, I can like just
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: kind of read body language along with their vibes, and
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I just know right off the job, we'll see if
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: I like them or for me. And I think for
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: you to a big thing for me. And we just
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: talked about this. I need banter and I can tell
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: that pretty quickly through you know, texting, calling, whatever, if
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: you've got that, And chances are if I if I'm
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: not getting that, like I don't need to hang out
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: in person because I'm gonna be throwing jokes around and
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: like if it's just like, you know what I mean,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Like I don't need to be in like that's just
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: all effort. Though at the end of the day, like banti,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I can't pull that out of somebody. Yeah, And it's
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: that's that's the thing where I don't I don't want
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: to waste time because like if I'm sitting here trying
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: to text, I'm just like wasting time and I don't
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: want to put energy and effort towards something that's gonna
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: be How often is it, you know, you meet it
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Like let's say you're like, hey, let's walk around in Chicago, right,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: and within the first five attemptage like this in there?
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: You know, how do you get yourself out of those situations? Yeah,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I mean obviously, you know you just kind of just
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: at that point, I'm like, all right, well I just
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: gained a new friend, you know what I mean, And
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: you just try to be there and try to be
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: like a good friend and try to enjoy the moment
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: when you can. And you know, obviously I'm like, hey,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I got some things that come up I gotta get
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: to and um, I think if we had a really
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: good time, Um, I'll see you around blah blah, blah
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: like that those and if that girl, you know, she's like, hey,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I had a great time. You know, let's sit the
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: next I had a great time. Would you want to
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: do this again? Like and like, well, maybe we can
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: do it again. But like usually I would like put
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: it into a point where we're like she knows that
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: it's just like a friend raise and I feel like,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: don't do that. I won't do that in front of
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: her completely. I think you'd be like, yeah, I just
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: think we're better off as friends, you know what I mean,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: rather than like going into him that I I there's
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: no like letting someone down easy. I think we we
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: try to cover up so many people's feelings sometimes, Like
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: it's just like it's okay to be like all right,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: well we'll be good friends, you know. I mean, you
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: don't want to be friends with me, that's fine. I
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: have my friends. How are you finding most of these
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: ladies to go on dates? Um so I'm on riya um,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: which is a really cool app Um. So it's like sorry,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: um no, yeah, sorry, but no, but it's like it's
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the easiest way because I don't, like I don't go
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: out as much as I used to. Um, you know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: it's just a lot different now, like everyone's always watching,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and it's hard with dates as well or getting to
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: know people because people will like see you and like
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: take photos from across the bar, like oh, Andrew's talking
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: to a girl. I'm like, I can't have that. I
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: hate it. I feel like that also is a factor
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: into my hesits patian to go out and date people,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: because that's why I don't do dinner dates because yeah,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: that's so intimate. Like if I do all these other dates,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: it's like, all right, well we're doing this, this, we're
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: having fun, we're doing activities, we're walking around, Like those
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: are different compared to um sitting down with someone and
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: it's very intimate and like I think that's a date
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: three or date four thing I'll do. But also like
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I don't want someone seeing me eat, like like we
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: just met, Like he really doesn't like people seeing me. No,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I don't, like, like I'm gonna, like you want me
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: to talk about this while I'm eating, Like it's so
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: hard to talk and eat, like do I cover my mouth?
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just too much like to worry about,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: like come on now. So we went to a nice
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: restaurant last night, and um Andrew said, I'm not a
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: restaurant guy. I'm not. I don't know what to order.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: That's so much pressure. And then like she's like, oh,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: let's get a wine. I'm like wine, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: what do you like? He's not the guy that will say, oh,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: this appetizer looks nice for the table, let's share. And
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: then Justin said that I think it was you you
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: said it was awkward, the awkward silence looking at the
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: menu and trying to decide what you want while on
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: a date. Yeah, because like if I'm at dinner, I
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: want to have conversation, and then the waiter waitress comes
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: over and I'm like, i haven't look at the menu, bex.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to make it not awkward. And then if
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: it's like a first dame, we're just both stre to
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the menu. I know we're both thinking about how silent
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: and awkward it is, but I'm like, I want to
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: see what I want to get. Don't do dinner dates,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: but on the type or I'm like, I'm always down
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: to eat, right, So even if I'm like, hey, let's
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: grab drinks, right, I kind of like hedge my bet
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and like I'll have something light before I go on
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the diate to eat, you know, and then I'll go
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: on the date because I don't want if the girl's like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I'll be like, hey, are you hungry? I always like
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: are you you want to get something? Because I don't
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: want it to be this like if she hasn't eaten
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: yet and she wants to get something, like, let's do it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I love a girl that can eat, you know, don't
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: like good you know, you know, so I'll like I'll
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: eat enough just to like kind of cook the stomach.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, I could eat, you know, I'm always down.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: That's I can started drinks. But if we're but if
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: like we can we can turn it into something, you
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I never want to come
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: off as like a oh he does, like we're just
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: like you know, I don't want her to feel awkward
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: or hungry. It's like or whatever you want, you know
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like we're good here. And I also
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of double dates or like just
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: friends on dates. He was on my last date. It's
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: it makes it so much easier because we can kind
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of like he knows, like we can bounce off each
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: other and like I can kind of like pick up anything.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: She's like, She's like, I had no idea he was here,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, well he is, we can just was
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: this a second day like us? She loved it so
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: much first day, she loved it so much that she
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: we did a second date the next day. He was
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: also there, so is Greg. And here's what they did.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: They made and they made me kiss her in front
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: of them. She's like, she's like like, so, I think
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you guys should kiss. Have you guys had a first
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: kiss you? So first let's let's let's start. So first
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: day we're literally we're in New York and we're in Soho.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: We're just shopping around. He's like, hey, I'm about to
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: have a date. I was like, what, you leave me.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: He's like, no, she's gonna come meet up with us.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: And that that's such andrew thing, like when he like
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: he literally like like activities is like his his thing.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: So she was cool enough to like just literally hang
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: out with us in shop all day because at the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: end of the day, like my my my my person
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: is gonna have to be with my friends. Like if
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: anyone's gonna know, my friends are gonna know, you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: soon as she pulls hip across stream, like, so what
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: are you thinking? Man? I'm like, hey, man, she got potential,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: see the personality. And then midway through I'm like, and
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: then she came out. She had bear s accent. She's
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: from the UK, and he had to she was he
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: was how easily he went out the British accents this kids,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen him because he had an authentic British woman.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: And he was like, I don't know, she might call
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: me out. And she was talking about when people She's like,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I hate when people try to use the pretty sacs
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: in me. I was like, oh, he's waiting it for
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: like two hours. He wouldn't do it, so he wouldn't
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: got hot chocolate like these little these chocolate chip things
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: and you know, really cool three persons. And then and
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: then we got dinner and Greg was there and literally
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere, Greg's like, so, what are your intentions
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: with Andrew? So now she's all nervous and he goes
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and so I'm like, we're gonna get this started. I'm like,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and no, tell me how do you feel about her friend?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: And she's like, okay, we're not doing this. I was like, no,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: we are Greg goes, I think you should kiss and
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: now Andrews like, I hate you guys, Like this is
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: why I hate. I go, I go, and she's not saying,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: she's not like no no, I'm like, well, Andrew seems
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: like she's pretty into it. And now he's a nervous
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: one and she was waiting on it. She was like,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well she hasn't objected, and she's like, I said, Andrew,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: you better go ahead. And so he's like, I'm not
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: doing this for you guys. He's like, I don't think
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: guys have ever seen me kiss. I said, well, no time,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: like the President. I was like, well, we definitely wrote
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: a show together. So I kid, I haven't seen your kids.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Like he was like, you guys haven't seen me kiss,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: like not on camera. I was like, well, don't telling
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: the president. And she's you could tell she's weight because
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: she has a personality where she'd be like no, no, no,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: but she was. She was, she very she was she
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: was like waiting on it. She's that's like a this
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: European thing. They're they're like very not and so they
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: don't get nervous about stuff like that. So she was ready.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: So I didn't anywhere. He's just like, come here, and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: then me and Greg are like and it was a longer.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: It was a long kiss. I was like I was
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: in it, and it wasn't like a pack. It was
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: like we were explaining like a little peck, like allright,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: like oh, we were like oh. We turned away and
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I walked her out and then she like text me.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: She was like fireworks. I was like, yes, So the
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: next time we're in New York, are you going to
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: see her again? Ill? Yeah, we'll see I mean fireworks
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and then we'll see Please explain the description younger than me.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to be for New Year's as well.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: So she works, she works on working New Year's. Yeah,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: well we're just like I said, we're just you know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I haven't been like swept off my feet yet. Um
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: it was a date. You know, we went on two dates.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: And I can't tell one of this situation that you have,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Like bringing her on group first dates is totally disarming
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and so fun. And when bring out the best of
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: my personality or if it brings so much pressure to
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: impress multiple people, I can figure it out exactly. Takes
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the pressure off of me. So then so then like
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: if she's like nervous, like that's good. Like that's that's
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: where I get to be like, all right, let me
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: call in the situation make you feel better, Like I
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: can like make this like ease you into this, you
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, rather than like all the pressure
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: is always on the guy wouldn't go on dates. It's like,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: all right, now you gotta hold the conversation. Now I
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: can like banter with him, and then she can make
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: comments off of you. And it's and it's also not
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: like I feel like it depends on the friend dynamic
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: as well, because if I walked into a situation with
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: two women, like and it's like one of those one
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: of the women's like trying to grill me right, and
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a lot of pressure. But he
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: knows like I'm gonna try to make her feel comfortable
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna trying to bring out the best in
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: him so she can see him at his fullest self.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: You know. Like that's like the stand office. You're like,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: so like what do you do? Like what Like I'm like, no,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: like see us in banter and like fit in. You know.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Greg's up. Greg's a friend that thinks he's Kevin Hart
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: when remember there's a girl around for me, he's he
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: has to pull out all the jokes. Okay, dude, he's
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: this sidekick Frost, Like when when we're with Trey, Oh
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: my god. So when I brought them to Baltimore, right,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: we met, you know, we were down on the field,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: we we went in the tunnel, we met. All the
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: cheerleaders were taking pictures right and you and Greg goes
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: so um, ladies, Tray has actually performed a rehearse to
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: dance routine. He's like performed for you all right now,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and trades like what he goes, No, Tray, don't be nervous.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Show him your routine and he will put you on
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: the spot when in front of girls. He did that
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: birthday Natalie Andrew has his birthday dance. He wants to
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: show and like there's like so many people like intuitive
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: like listening really listening to Greg here, and I'm like
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: not paying attention, like like what are you talking about?
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: So I'm starting to understand the couple that is Victoria
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: and Greg now more hearing more about Gregg's personality because
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: it seems like Victoria than him have very similar senses.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Of humor. Yeah, they do. They really do. Like one
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: thing that you people don't understand, Like Victoria is funny,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: She's hilarious, Like she's got like this edgy like kind
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: of dark humor, but like this like sinister like chefs.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I know of any bachelor friend
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: group that like is so close as you guys, like
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: we have are really close friends, you know, like people
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: like at our bridal party that will be friends with forever.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: But like you guys have a crew and you guys
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: do everything together everything, Like I always say, like everybody eats,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: you know. We we like same pr manager, same deals.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: If we get a deal, like hey, can I bring
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: my friends on on this? Like that's just kind of
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: how we operates. Like I mean, it's like we're trying
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: to COMPLI were we trying coup which it's called the
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: couple's retreat now. So we want to get like the
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: holy trinity of you know, we want to be able
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: to get to a nice spot with our people like
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: you know, and be like with each other. Here's some
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: more hopeless romantic from Andrew. We're literally I mean we
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: love traveling together. Um, and I'm so fortunate to come
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: across some friends that also love trial, like we just
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: we do so much together, and we were talking about
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: what our next international trip is going to be, Like, Hey,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: how about Greece. Andrew's no, I'm saving that from my
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: future wife. He's like, I won't go to Greece until
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I'm until it's the honeymoon or a couple of strip
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: or something like that. I'm like, all right, another like
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Greg's got one, like the pressures on, because like we're
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: dying to do like a couple's trip. Yes, yes, like
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: we are. We are holding the group back right now.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's more so I'm trying. I just can't.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't find I don't know what I'm
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: looking for, but and I won't force it. So like
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm going on in these states. I'm like
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I need to like I need to be more at
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and like I'm getting older. I feel like I don't
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: want to be like an older dad. I don't want
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: to be like thet with a newborn. Probably want to
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: be five with the newborn. How old are you? Yeah, okay,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I mean you're at a great age right now until
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: find your person. But I promise you as somebody who
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: has eleven month old, Like you can enjoy time with
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: your wife when you find her for a while, because
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: it will never be the same. I just you know,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously obviously, like I said earlier, like not
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: having a dad usually in my life, That's just what
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I'm super excited about. Like, you know, I just wanna,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you know, I want to be able to be in
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: shape to whoop his ass in like basketball. You know,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: there's no way he's gonna beat me in anything. So
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: do you have a girl her too? You don't matter,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: that's not We're gonna be a tough family, Like it
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter what it is. We're gonna be competitive and repeat,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I just want to push them
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: to be their best and I want to be there
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: for them, um when they do their best. So like
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: that's kind of what I want to do. Oh Andrew,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: you are just like the sweetest, sweetest thing ever you
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: it is. You're just making everybody so mad. You're not
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the bachelor. All right, Well, let's talk about your romance
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: or lack thereof with Teddy. So you slide because you
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: thought there was a fairy tale possibly there. You're wrong.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Com was possibly there. It was a New Year's Eve
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: DM that you center. You said, hey, our crowd, our
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: paths are probably going to cross at some point, like
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: you didn't want to get into it because you looking
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: forward to it. Yeah, and I think like the response
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: was so like receptive of that, and I loved it,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: and I was like like, damn, I just want to
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: like talk to her now like I wanted to, just
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't skip Paradise to at least try it outside
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: before even going down. Um. So yeah, you know, Paradise
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: didn't go as planned, but you know that's fine. We
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: just keep moving on. But how much pressure it was
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: there when you actually met face to face which was
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: on Paradise. See, it wasn't the pressure that I thought
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I put on the pressure, That's what I mean, like
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: you put pressure on yourself. It wasn't like the fan
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: they were a little bit, but the fandom got the
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: fandom was more than the pressure I put on because um,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: like the shipping started happening in the podcast started happening.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: So actually no, it was producers. Producers put way more
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: pressure on us than anyone. It was like, um, I
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: would get into interviews or I would walk around and
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: get calls like are you ready for Teddy? And I'm like,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: like Jesus, guys, like I don't know if it's gonna
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: work yet, Like yeah, it's like okay, like we know,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: but you don't have to say it like that, you know,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: And I think it just got to be so much,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I will I will share
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: this one thing. This is this. Not a lot of
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: people know this. So she did text me right before
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: we went off to the beach and she was just like,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of pressure surrounding us, and
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I just want to let you know, like I know you're,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: like you said, you've interested in a lot of other girls,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: like I do hope that I just don't want you
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: to know like that you can go after whoever you want,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: like there's no like expectation and just only be for me.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I appreciate that, Yeah exactly,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: you know, I, like I said, I want to be chosen.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: So we had that conversation before we even got on
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the beach. Not a lot of people know that, um,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: which could have been a flag. I was like, I
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: could have been like something maybe I knew something like that,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: or maybe she was just like feeling overwhelmed with everything,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: and I think that's a lot of it, and like,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. I I think that's where I messed up.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I think, which was so out of pocket and and
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: different for me, is I I bought into the hype.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I bought into, you know, the TV aspect of everything,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and I don't think she ever was there for that.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: And you know, like that's where I was like I
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: failed because I feel like she genuinely wanted to find
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: like a real connection between us two and it didn't happen.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And I think I wasn't myself truthfully because I was
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: like like, oh, we gotta have this big moment here
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: or this big moment here, And like honestly, when she left,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I was like I started remembering like the small moments
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: that were so valuable that I overlooked and like we're
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: so great that, um, we're so stuck in this like
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: looking for this like fairy tale, but like looking for
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: the big like firework moment like we never had that,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: we never had that like click, but like just like
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: thinking about all the small moments and I was like,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: oh my god, those are great, Like those are the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: ones I actually want really in real life, and I
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: think I like skipped so many steps and trying to
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: hit this home run and get like straight to like
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Brandon Serene, you know what I mean. And I'm like,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I think that might I think I might have scared
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: her in a way where I'm just like that's like,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: you know, well, we're not Brandon Serene, Like it's not
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: gonna work, you know what I mean. I think that
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: was a lot with Jared. Like Jared was coming off
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: of Caitlin the season where he had so many these big, sweeping,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: romantic moments and he's expecting the same thing. So when
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: he wasn't getting those that with me, he kind of
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: like wrote it off. And then you slowly discovered that
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: it's like the little things that doesn't have to be
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: this this rom com without the small details in between.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Because Teddy is an amazing girl. Um, I don't think
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of people know, like she's way funnier than
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I gave her credit for it, Like not like I
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: just didn't notice that from Clayton season, so I didn't know,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: like and honestly, she carried a lot of the conversations
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: like I was drawn up blanks. I was like, oh,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: my god, I don't know what to do. Like I
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: told you, when I like a like person, like I
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: like fail. So I was like, there's a lot of
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: situations where I was just like, oh my god, what
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: am I doing? What am I doing? When I doing it?
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: And she was like so yeah, this and this and this,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and she would always talk about real stuff like her
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: life and what family was, like what that was going on.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, those are great, And I
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, so, what do you want to do
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: with like like you know, love style, like lovely. I
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: don't know. I was just not like talking about the
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: real stuff. And you know, I'm just very disappointed and
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: like how I just operated things that could have done better.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: And I think, um, I think I drove her away
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: or anything. Yeah, but at the same time, I feel
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: like you guys just weren't it. Like that just wasn't
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: your girl. You weren't her guy. And I haven't really
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: said this, but when we sat down there and I
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: met all the girls and we had like our little
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: girl pow out, she said that she felt like something
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: was missing. And then and then last night you told
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: me separately totally not knowing that that that you said
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the same thing about her. You were like, I really
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: wanted it, but I you said that like it felt wrong,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and then she left and then you were like, oh wait,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I want but I wanted, I wanted, I feel it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: And I think it's just because to possibly was just
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: like one of those moments where you were just like,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I want one I can't have. Yeah no, I said
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: that as well. I said, I said it was I
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: want what I can't have. But it was just more
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: so this like the the passion and just like how
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: much she didn't want to hurt me and the fact
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: that like I was like, Okay, well you care, that's one,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: but like why couldn't we just communicate that, Like if
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: we would have just communicated just more deeper level, like
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: on that on that level, um, it just felt like
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: that's that was what I was kind of missing, was
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing. I think both of you knew
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: it wasn't it, but I think you were more willing
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to see it through and give it more chances. And
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I mean I know him, and like even as a bystander,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I kind of like, you know, keep an eye peeled,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: like what are they up to? And I I had
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: a feeling I was like, this isn't it because I
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: know him and I know when he's in he never
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: like he did he was he never seemed like himself.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: You know, he'd come back and I was, you know
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: from what I you know, briefly saw her and in
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: our interaction she was great, and you know he's great,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like two people can be great, but
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that they're great for each other. And
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I remember going back up to the bunks and I'd
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: be like, how you feeling right? That was waiting to
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: see if I'm like right, and he's like something like
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: that like X factors missing and he's like yeah, I'm
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: like dude, I was like I can see it, like
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: it's something that's just not there. I'm like, you're not
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: being yourself, Like like I don't know, she's not like
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: this isn't fun, Andrew. This isn't like you know the Andrew.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I just couldn't get I couldn't read it.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I couldn't read her. And all I knew was it
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't like it wasn't clicking um and like I just
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: couldn't There's nothing, and I was gonna try, Like I
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, I but there was so much hype
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: and pressure built up around Like we would talk every
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: day before Paradise and he's like he's like, he's like, man,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: like I'm going in, I'm proposing. He's like, I ain't
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: gonna do the He's like, I ain't gonna do the
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: typical one of the beach proposal. He's like, I'm talking
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: to the producers. Yeah that's we're gonna go to some
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: jungle and we're gonna do it. No no, no, no no,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: no no, And that's what I'm saying, Like I was,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: there was so I was overthinking. I was skipping steps
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: to where line. That's where I'm like, yeah, I over like.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: That was on me because I was looking far past
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: where we were actually at and it was bad. But yeah,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: that is really funny. So I did. I did talk
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: to her. I was like, Hey, if I'm gonna get engaged,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get on a knee where other people
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: have gotten out. I want you guys to fly us
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: out of similar romantic place. Then I'll get on a knee.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: But this's gonna have his rom com ending one way
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: or another. So how do you see your proposal one day? Um,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: honestly now, it's like just tailored to the person that
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I meant. I feel like I'll read the room with that,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: not a lot of people like all that big flashy stuff. Um,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: and like I just didn't want to do the same
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: thing as everyone else on the beach. I'm like, hey,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: you're way more deserving of something else, and I'm not
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: gonna give you what other people have given. But what
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: if Serene, here's this, that's fine. I mean like just no, no,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, go ahead, you don't do your You
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: guys did your thing like me. I'm like, hey, you're
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: my person, so I'm gonna go above and beyond. It's
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: just me showing like every day, like you're going to
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: be different than every other girl in the world. So
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: like that's kind of my angles. Like I'm not going
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: to propose to you in this spot, like we can
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: go up to the top. Uh yeah, we can go
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: somewhere else. We're not gonna get proposed. I'm not proposed
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: to you where everyone else is. Like you know, you're different,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: You're different to me, so, um, no one's been my fiance.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: So like that's what that was where my head was at.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: That's really funny he said that I totally forgot about that. Well,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: you continue to blame sort of maybe you're not maybe
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: the cast is maybe the girls that you're with our
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: um the teddy thing kind of lingers with you and
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: you're not over it. So which is why you know
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: he's cringing right now, which is why like it didn't
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: work out with Jacenia and then n C. But was
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: that true? Maybe that was true in the moment, it
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: was true, Yeah, but then like in hindsight, you're also
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: made have just probably been like yeah, but it's all
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: it's like it's I'm thinking of her, but it's also
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: just not you. Yes, yes, absolutely. Um. And here's the thing,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: like if they had brought someone down there, Um, it's
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: like every other breakup, like your boys are like they're like, hey,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: go back out there, you get back in the field
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: and you know we'll get back in Sometimes you're not ready,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: but you still do it anyways. Um, Like it wasn't
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: that I wasn't ready, It was just there wasn't the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: right girl to do it. And like and here's the thing,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: like everything sped up there and like they want me
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: to be to be able to get to propose. I'm like,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: there's nobody here that I believe that I would get
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: to that stage with UM, But like that doesn't mean
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna try, you know what I mean. But
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: it also like I never had the rose again, so
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: it's like I wasn't picking people. Only give out one
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: rose and that was a teddy girl girl girls was
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: a girl girl girl like yeah, so like exactly, and
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: then Brittany chose Tyler over me, and then like just
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: saying you like I never said, just saying you couldn't
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: go talk to any other boy. She's like, oh, you
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: let me on or you. I'm like, no, I didn't,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Like I told you, I'm gonna try, but I'm going
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: at this pace like and there's no telling if like
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: we ever get to this part, but I'm gonna try,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And we try hide and
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I was gonna go home before NC. You don't know
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the timing of what the producers are gonna They just
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: dropped bombshell. N He gets there and I'm like, oh,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: she's really cute. Maybe I'll go on a day with Ancy.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe there's something I felt a little something go on
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: a day with NC. UM if Ncy came earlier, we
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: could be still talking, you know what I mean. Um,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: but it was just all Timing was crazy. Timing was crazy.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: The Hunger Games of love, Yeah it was insane. But yeah,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I think I think the whole teddy thing did have
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of I wanted to go home. I was gone.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I was gone with n before all of that. As
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: soon as I laughed, soon as she laughed, I was like,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: all right, well that was the reason I came here, Daddy,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Like you wanted to leave. Did you feel jealous that
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: she got to leave and you didn't? No, no, no, no.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Michael A stepped in and gave me the speech of
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: a lifetime. Same way him and Rodney, they just were
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: every day like no, bro, you gotta stay, you gotta
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: do this, Like Michael is talking about, like what kind
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: of father do you want to be? And you're just
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: gonna give up and quit, And I'm like, tim cool,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: And then these guys like, come on, bro, we're gonna
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: be here man, like you you're gonna find someone. Just
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: take your time, just get back out there. Like you know,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: you weren't really like feeling it. She wasn't feeling It's fine,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: like you know it's over, like just you can move
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: on from this and you can still save something. You know,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: you can find something. Every single second I'm getting like
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: they're hitting me with those and I'm like all right, alright, alright, alright,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: And the producers are like, well, you know, if you
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: turned down a Rose, that person goes home too. I
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: was like, you mother, because why doesn't work like that.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: People were like, we'll give you a friendship ros. I'll
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: be like, I'll be damned if I get a friendship
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Ros in this minute, Like I will flip this place
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: upside down, don't you dare. I was like, There's no
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: way I'm doing that, Like I'm going home. Um so yeah, okay.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: So Teddy wrote something on Instagram about like it was
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: like kind of alluding to her making her own choices
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: or like feeling screwed over from the producers and like
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: never wanting to be in that situation again. It was
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: kind of cryptic, what's your take. It's actually the first
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: time someone's asked me that. Um, you know, I one
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: of the things that like, you know, I I trust
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, and I, you know, it's just
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: how I operate. I don't know anything and what happened, um.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: And that was the first thing I texted her when
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I got out of the show. I was like, you know,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I heard things when like someone haywire and I just
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: wanted to check in on her. I was like, oh,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I hope everything's well and she's responded to me, and
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, everything went well. I want to
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: thank you. You're like you're a paradise to me. But like, UM,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: the producers were not treating me kindly, And I was like, okay,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I wish I hate to try to go
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: through that alone whatever. UM, But I don't know, you know,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: it's off because I keep seeing like people saying that
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: um the producer for forcing her to be with me.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: First of all, no one's gonna force you to be
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: anyone to be with me, Like that's unacceptable. I would
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: never accept that, UM. So I don't know how far
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: oh extent where they're talking about with that UM. And secondly,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: you know, had I known, like like I said, communication
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: was lacking there because had I known she had a
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: conversation with Rodney like that, like here's the thing, like,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna burn, You're not gonna hurt my feelings.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: If you're like, hey, I would love to like I
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: wish we got challenged. I wish someone else was there
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: to be like hey, what can we talk or you know,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: take her and talk to her. Like I feel like
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: she was kind of thrown like to me, like in
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: a in a in a way because we had said
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: we expressed interest in each other, um and I feel
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: like in that as soon as that happened, and like
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: we were on the beach and felt like she felt
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: like it was just like I was she was the
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: only thing. I was the only thing she was like
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: allowed to talk to you. Like that's not the case.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: It's like I just really you want to talk to
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: you And if you don't want to like express that
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: to me, like be like, hey, I want to talk
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: to other people. I kind of want to do my
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: own thing. I'm be like, hey, that's okay, Like that's
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: way better then, like, oh, I don't want to hurt him,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: And like obviously we go back to the point where
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: like the fans like trying to bash someone for you know,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: like oh she left Andrew, how could she do that?
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And like that's the one
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: thing I hate more than anything, you know, and I
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: didn't want her, and I feel like she felt like
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: that was what's gonna happen if she had chose Roddy
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: or chose someone else. And I'm just like and it's
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: not only that, but it's also we've talked about it
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: like the same token, like you don't want the fans
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: to be like, oh, poor Andrew sympathy card because she don't.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: It's like he don't like one of the thing I
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: hate more anything, just how I've grown up and I've
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: never had it like easy, Like I don't love. I
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: hate pity, hate it, sympathy, pity, whatever you call it.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I hate it more than anything, Like I cringe more
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: than anything. Like when I when you're talking about the
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: sympathy rose, I would have I would have been I
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: would have been I rate if I would have been
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: so pissed so like to me, like it was it
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: was not her fault, but it was just like, um,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I get that you were upset, but like to me,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I was like, damn, well, like you can just you know,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: like no one was forcing like oh I wasn't like
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: forcing the case, like you could have laughed at any time,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: like and that's just kind of how I felt about it,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: but you know, she's she's a strong woman and you
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: know she's gonna say how she feels, and that's good
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and I'm glad that she got, like to say her peace. Um,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty much you know, really I got
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: from it. Like I just hope that she knows that
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: there's no way I was gonna let someone forc you
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: to be with me, like zero percent chance. Yeah, uh,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: it was I don't know. It was kind of confusing
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: to me, um, because talking to some of her friends,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: like you know, Serena, I mean, Serene was confused as
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: all all too. You know that she kinda just up
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: and left. But you know, I know you wouldn't have cared,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: but she you know, aside from you, I heard that
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: she had expressed interest in Rodney and that's who would
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: asked her on the day. So it's like, I know,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna hurt, but it's not gonna like it's
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: not gonna be catastrophic if she wants to go with Ronnie, right,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: and and so you've got two great guys that are
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: interested in you, and it's okay if one doesn't work out.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: You know that being Andrew, but you had another great
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: guy there that that you were also you know you
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: were in there was mutual interest and I would have
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: left and you could have did something with Rodney, you
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like that could or I would
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: have stayed, but like there was no one really I
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: was interested at the time, but like, um, I just
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: felt really bad that she had to leave in that manner.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Um And obviously I don't know what happened with her
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: in the producers and you know what she told me,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: she was treated on like our respect to believe it,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: you know. And from the producer's side, they said they
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: did nothing, and I'm like, okay, well that's you know,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: to each other. How someone feels is how they feel.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: You can't tell them how to feel. So um so,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: both party. I mean, I have a great relationship with
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the producers. And also I think me and Teddy your friends,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I believe that. Um So, you know, my interpretation of
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: it is that she just must be very skeptical, maybe
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: a little paranoid at the direction that she thinks that
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: they're leading her in, just because of that comment on Instagram,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: her trying to get out of paradise so quickly, and
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: then even if you look back on Clayton season. She
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: was such a favorite at the beginning and everybody was like,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: can't wait to watch Teddy like that, she was all
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: the focus was on her on that first episode, and
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: then she kind of faded into obscurity on the season
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: gets limited, like sort of midway through. And I'm wondering
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: if just because she had a hard time being like
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: super open and honest in interviews and then that led
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: to less air time and just like just not an
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: interesting character because she was so close off. Um. I
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: have no idea, but I think she's closed off in
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: some situations. Like I said, communication, if it's just been
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: you just let it, let me have it. I'm a
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: big boy and girl, man, UM I can handle. There's
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: a lot less worse things than just being, you know,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: told that you're not the one. UM. So I was
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: just like, okay, well, you know, if we had those conversations,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I think that would have been easier. She does. It
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: seems like she has a couple of ayers and needs
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: to be pulled back. Um. But also like we're on
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: we're on television. It's not the easiest, you know what
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I mean. So it's like I get it, and I'm
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: like the same way too, Like I want to be
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: this super confident guy that I am all the time.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Once that camera hits your face and there's everyone sitting
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: there watching, and we're supposed to have this fireworkup relationship,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: like it was, it was tough. It was tough. So
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: I mean I think the first the first time we
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: started talking, the first shot we had, I think there
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: was like maybe nine or ten cameras, like I mean
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: all the way around, like every angle, and I was
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: like holy, like and like, and that's when you're like, Okay,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: they're really pushing this, you know what I mean. But
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: and I can see how that scared her. And I
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: think I didn't help. Yeah, and I didn't help because
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I was like I was looking for the big moment. Oh,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: here's our big moment. Here it is, here, it is,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: here's the big moment. And uh, you know, I just
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: wish I would have just spend more like reeling down earth.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I understand. Why do you think she didn't show up
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: to the reunion show? Oh she's over it. She's over
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: the show, over the men, over the women, anything that
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: has a Bachelor tie she's over. And that's like I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: told you, she's she's a strong independent woman. She's um.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: She didn't even take for no one and she's gonna
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: do what she has set her has set her mind
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: for um, you know, and that's cooler. And I one
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: thing I would say, I was kind of disappointed, um
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: that Bachelor didn't air my part about it, because that
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: was like my clarity, like I needed to just like
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: I hope she sees it. And like because we we
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: didn't really get to talk much about like anything. So
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: what was the moment. Oh, we just I just sat
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: down on the on the on the couch and just
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: kind of really it was just like a message to
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: her and just be like, hey, you know, I hope
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: we're good, you know what I mean. I hope that
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: you know, you know that I wasn't mad at you
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: or none of the things that are people are saying
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: or like and you're not alone or you're not like
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: ostracized in this really in this franchise, Like I think
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: people still love you, like you know, and I think
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: you're really a person. And there were moments in our
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: relationship that I thought were incredible and I wouldn't trade
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: it for anything, and I wish that we could have
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: did you know, we could have did some things differently,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and that's just like the clarity that I needed to
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: kind of say. And I never got to like really
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: get it to her because but you said it through
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: a screen, not to her. But that's just that was
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: the only way you're gonna get it. And I isn't
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: gonna go freaking reach out again. Like so she didn't
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: respond when you damned her message? She did? She did, Yeah,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: but like we never had a chat chat. Like I'm
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: not going to send a bunch of paragraph boxes to something.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, yeah, I would really love to hop
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: on a call with you one of these days, just
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: kind of check in with you. And that third message
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: that I sent when I said that didn't she didn't
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: respond to that. So I was like, Okay, we just
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: never had a conversation. Yeah, all right, Well we can't
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: end the podcast without talking about the moment with n C,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: which was the most awkward moment I can remember from
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: the show. You guys were at the prom was it prom?
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: What was it? Nineties party? Sady Hawkins and um, she
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: you had it. You were ready to leave and there
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: was a just sendia thing or she got annoyed. Oh
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: my gosh, it was so ridiculous. She got annoyed because
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: he were talking to Senia. She must have been drunk,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: off r asked, because if we were all drunk, all right.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: It So then she goes up to you and you're like,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I'm leaving and you're and she's like please Andrew, please,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: please please please? Was it just as awkward experiencing in
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: real life? Um? Justin, I feel like you were there?
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Were you watching this? Yeah? I was at home home
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: at this point. I was booted again. UM so my
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: first time seen was when it when it aired, I
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I I again, I will take responsibility for this again. UM.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: I wasn't very good at like communicating with n C
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: of the situation with Justina. What's going on? Um, that
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: was not a pleasant conversation between me and Justin. You.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think really anyone got the full gist of it.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot more things that were said that
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I wasn't very happy about. Um. And it was like
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: it was just like a shot at my character and
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: I was just not happy about it. Um. So then
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: NC coming up and I was like, hey, it's not
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: like I really need to just clear this up. I
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean just an have been friends before this,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: like at the end of the day, like I still
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: want to be like friends, like where we have like
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: a good you know, and I hope this is we
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: may have kissed like eight times total, like we weren't
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: like very you know, in paradise like me and just said,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: you know, I was like we weren't. You know, we
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: tried it. It just wasn't just never clicked for me.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, So I was like, I
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: was like, oh no, I hope you know. I completely
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: adore you. I just don't think we would work. And
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously like I'm trying, but also knowing that
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: my heart's in some other place. Um, and I wish
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: we were just told Ncy was just like yo, my
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: questions being in character, you know, like just give me
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: a second. I'll be right with you, I promise you.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: And we're drunk. We're drunk drunk, like this is like
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: four am maybe and I've had like thirteen white wines
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: not even kidding you, and everyone's like, dude, I applaud
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: you. You You were I don't know how you were. So
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: like I get like so overed up really fast, Like
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: when there's a serious moment, so I gets sorry but um, yeah,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: so and he comes back over and then she lays on.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's like, if you don't leave her like
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: this or then I'm like, okay, And how long had
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: you known her at this point? Seventeen hours? Maybe? Well no,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying because you know TV time and lifetime. Yes,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: So our date was at night, um, and this was
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: it was okay and it was like twenty seven hours.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry about um. Anyways, Um, great girl, and she's
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: and he's great, like super fun, great to be around. Um. Um.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: But the situation. She was drunk, we were all drunk, intoxicated,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: and you know, it was it was awkward, but like
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: it's just overheightened because of the situation we were in.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Like it was late and like I said, we were
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: we had a couple of drinks and yeah we were.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: We were having the and it's Andrew Spencer. Nobody wants
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: to see you go, man, shut up. So we were
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: we were just having a great time, like it was
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: the best time on the beach. Like I'm dancing, I'm
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: dancing dancing. I'm like they're they're playing music for us,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Like oh yeah, that was a treaty. I was like,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I am not going I am going all out as
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: my Super Bowl. Um and where everyone's more rally in
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: that place was so high, I mean seeing smiley faces.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Everything was great. And then just saying it came out
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: of here with a dark cloud. I was like, oh
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: my god, don't do this to me. I was like,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I just wanted one night. Actually I was gonna I
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: don't think it would have. I think I was gonna
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: go home regardless. Then the next road ceremony, okay, but
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: I wanted to see as far as I can go
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: within see and I wanted to have conversations tomorrow at
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: the road ceremony like the cocktail party, and just just
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: really get in serious to see where we can go.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm like, hey, we can leave and maybe we
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: start dating after this. That was still like a thing possibility,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: But obviously I know the back of my head, I'm like,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: they're not teddy. So I was like, I think I
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: was gonna be done the next rostemoney anyways, but like
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Sadie Hawking is just going on, I'm like, I'm in
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: such a good mood, like and he was there and
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: we were having a great time together. You know she's
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: really good girl. I just think, you know, the situation
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: was just not ideal for for her myself. And yeah,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: and she's located. She's I met it for the first
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: time at the at the reunion. She seems awesome. Um
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: where she living. She's in New York. Okay, So we've
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: got a couple options for this new year. We're not
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: we're not circling the block and we're doing it. Okay,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be like what's that one with Ryan Reynolds
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: yet maybe yeah, definitely, maybe, definitely maybe, yeah, And you'll
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: have to tell your kids the story. Like alright, I'm
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: gonna let justin wrap this up and ask the last question,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: whether it be funny, whether it be heartfelt, just the
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: a question between best friends. You know, UM, we talk
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: a lot, obviously, we do everything. Um. You know I'm
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: the same way as you. Um. You know I'm looking
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: for something to happen organically. You know I can't force it. Um,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: So I guess, is there is there that wow moment
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: or that one action or character traitor or anything that
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: when it happen or have you ever felt it? Is
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: there anything where it's like when this is when I'll no, Um, yeah,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: it happens. Here's here's a here's a hot take. I
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: believe you have multiple soul mates. Um, and I've had multiple,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Like there's there are times where I was like, oh wow,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: like I feel something with this person like I've never
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: felt with anyone. Like you love each person that you've
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: been with differently, Like it's never the same love. You're
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: never gonna love someone the same. So every single spark
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: or everything, every firework that you have with one person
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: is not the same as it is with you know another,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: So like you just kind of like I don't know
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: whichever one that like really takes you the highest? Uh,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: is what like I'm really looking for? And sometimes you
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: know that goes by going on dates and you know
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: seeing it. It It doesn't mean you go home and sleep
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: with someone. It just means that you know you're going
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: and just try to get to know their personality, who
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: they are a person and who you know, know their
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: heart is. Might P always say, um, and That's what
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: I'm doing, Like I swhy I said I want a
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: wholesomee wholesome because wholesome is like the general base. You know,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: if you're a wholesome person, Um, you know it doesn't
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: matter at the end of the day, like the but
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: the decisions that are gonna make between us are gonna
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: be um what do you call it, cordial is always
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: going to be respectful, you know, and that's at the
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: end of the day, like you need respect from all party. So, um,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: I think there's not one single thing. I just love
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: the small things that blow up, you know what I mean,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: that that takes me to a place I'm like, oh
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: my god, I love that, you know what I mean.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: So that's I would say, that's kinda the one thing
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for is just a small gesture that really
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: takes me over the top. Yeah, I mean, I totally
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: agree that. I don't think there's you know, just one
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: person for everybody. So to everyone listening out there every
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: many trillion people in the world, each of you got
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: a shot. It's not there's many of you. That's good news.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: That's a great way to put it. Man, nice job,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: all right. That being say, it's been great catching up
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: with you. Man. I've been justin, I've been Andrew and
• 1:00:48
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• 1:00:52
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