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Kawhi Leonard, chances of being a first ballot Hall of Famer when he retires · The Shawn Green show

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Hey, good morning everybody. Welcome to the Sean Green show
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over there. Sean Green Hope everybody's
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having a blessed morning for real, man.
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Y'all see the topic of my podcast today basically is why I
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believe Kawhi what we Kawhi Leonard.
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Basically, I don't think Kawhi Leonard's going to be a first
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ballot Hall of Famer according to some reports.
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Basically a lot of people it's it's starting to express that
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including Hall of Fame NBA players, but he plays everything
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I said because he's not going to be first fell in the Hall of
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Famer wherever, wherever Koala does retire basically what not
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from the NBA. It's because of the LA Clippers
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salary cap scandal thing. A lot of people still believe
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and we still believe he got away clean, which he did.
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I'm not going to front which he did.
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He got away clean. Now he's with the law.
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Now he's with the Toronto Raptors.
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Everybody know he's eventually, eventually he's going to sign an
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extension with the with the Toronto Raptors.
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Eventually he will basically ain't get a whole lot of money.
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So that $700,000 fine he received is is is like pocket
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change about the money he's about to receive from the from
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the Toronto Raptors whenever they do do that deal basically.
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But but hey, he's because of this scandal, this may tarnish
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his his his legacy, basically his career.
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Basically everybody could tarnish his career because of
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what just happened. For real.
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Honestly, man, I mean, he's he's he's going to end up he's he's
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he's not going to end up with people like Barry Bonds or Pete
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Rolls the other future. All other people would have
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still waiting to get in the Hall of Fame.
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Basically do the stuff that happened with him.
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Basically I got I got to be honest with you that first
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ballot. Now, he's not going to get in.
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Maybe not maybe that second, that third, he might get in, but
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you've got some eBay players saying he might not even get in
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on the first, second, third or fourth or fourth real because of
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what just happened. What just happened for real,
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man. And even people within the
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Clippers organization are mad and pissed off that he did get
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away clean. You got to make it clean for
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real. How some of them are received
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very very harsh penalties that he got away clean Oh oh oh I
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know nothing about it come on now I'll be honest with you it's
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my personal opinion. We all know basically he do
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about it your basically your uncle basically but not throwing
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swords for you that sort for you in a way I respect that I
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respect that Hey uncle looking after his nephew man, you got to
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respect that for real man, but fruit I'd say we do got to
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respect that but Kawhi Leonard, man, he made basically a good
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basketball player, damn good on the court, damn good basketball
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player excellent best player. He whether to be on the in the
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NBA Hall of Fame first ballot worthy based on his stuff on the
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court. He is a damn good basketball
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player. He is going to help to try and
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rap this out with him being with the Toronto Raptors makes the
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Toronto Raptors a damn good basketball team and somebody
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other teams in the east should watch out for it.
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I'll be real talk should watch out for it, but it's just off
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the court stuff again that might not get him a first ballot, man
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for real again. Hey, whenever he does retire,
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we'll basically find out. But I guarantee you it's going
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to come up. It's going to come up for real.
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Honestly, man. It's going to come up honestly,
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man. It really, really is for real.
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It's it, it really is going to come up, man.
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And trust me, because you know how some of these people who
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vote for these Hall of Famers, man vote for people who do the
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Hall of Fame, They have long, long, long memories, very long
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memories for real. Case in point, I'm going to say
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case in point, everybody, everybody to say everybody say
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this right now how Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame.
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He should yes, what he did was wrong.
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But with some of these people, what what see people doing to
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this day is consider my new for what he did.
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Yes, betting on his own team. Rose, he gets wrong.
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Yes, it is, but he should be in the Hall of Fame.
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But again, you're a lot of fame. It's same with same with some of
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these other players basically who is not in basically, but who
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who should be in but hey, but who should be obey a lot of
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these people who vote for these foot people in the Hall of Fame.
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They got long memories, man, very, very, very, very long
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memories, man. For for even though even though
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Kwa as I said, when he's sitting down with Tron Raptors and he's
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not chasing the ring. How how do you doubt that?
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How do you doubt that for real? But hey, hey, hopefully he
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should on what he said and what not.
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This is a new chapter for him, a new chapter.
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I think for him how they embraced him for real.
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Because before, before all this happened, he did receive offers.
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We did receive offers from we need offers from the
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Timberwolves, from the Timberwolves basically and the
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Pistons. He said no, the both offer.
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He said no, basically what not because he said no.
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The both offers. Even though I would have loved
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to see Kawhi Leonard with Anthony Edward, I would love to
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see him down there down there with the Timberwolves.
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Listen, magic, if he would have said yes, it went to the
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Timberwolves, who who call me Damn, I would love to see him
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down there instead of Jonathan come in for real.
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But hey, but hey, I understand why he I understand why he said
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yes, you're trying to rap this whatnot on that trade.
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I understand why he said yes. He loved the city, he loved the
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organization. I understand why for real.
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Hey, ain't nothing wrong with that, especially what's going on
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whatnot and what's going on with the Clippers even will for this
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trade. Even before the scan, everything
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was going on down there. Basically what not because like
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people would consider him so consider him amongst one of the
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many players to be basically the the father of load management,
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which I hate load management for real.
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That's also another thing they make bargain for being in the
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Hall of Fame for real, because that will come up.
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Him being one of the authors, author of the many of the
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players of load management for real, because I'm hey, hey, hey,
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I'm going to say this man Jordan didn't need a little management
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manager Johnson need a little management, little management.
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Bird needle didn't need a little.
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Even though this is a hotty topic, hotty debatable topic.
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I've been talking a lot of people say when the oh, the
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players are now the player. NBA players today are way better
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than back then. Please get right.
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I say yeah, right. I say yeah, right for real.
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I say you're right. But hey, that's my hey, that's
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my personal opinion, man, for real.
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My personal opinion for real. But I'm hey again, again, hey,
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whatever happens with Carl Leonard, Kyle Leonard when it
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comes with whenever he does retire and we just say if we
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need to try to say this retire, hey, we'll find out man.
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But don't expect me getting on the 1st ballot.
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That right there we all say hell no, hell no because of the
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salary cap scandal and become a little management thing.
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Hell no. Second, I I want to say yes, but
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you got other people who are where we started to meet.
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They were trying to go out there online to look it up and we're
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looking once you are saying no, but again, we'll find out.
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Also, other NBA news. This dude is still a free agent
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and we've been talking, I've been talking about him
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throughout the entire NBA offseason.
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Jalen Duran is still a free agent.
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He still is. Now you got other NBA players
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sitting there telling them what the hell you what the hell you
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what the hell you doing? I mean the the Detroit Pistons
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offer Detroit Pistons basically I'm getting I'm getting correct.
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I want to buy something wrong here.
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Offered him $190 million deal. He said no because not enough.
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I'll be honest with you, Jenna Duran Jaylen, am I on with you
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Jenna Duran and Jenna Duran is a good basketball player.
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He's during regular season with the main reason why the Pistons
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won 60 games, 60 games and won the best team during the record
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season. But in the playoffs, you choke,
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dawg. In the playoffs, you choke very
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heavenly. You choke badly in the playoffs.
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You've never dropped significantly in the playoffs
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for real, because the Pistons win the playoffs.
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Everybody think, oh, Pistons can make the NBA championship and
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you and you choke badly. But the main reason is why you
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was why you get the number that you're getting right now.
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Jay Duran, Jaden Duran once 200 with a mass contract of 200 of
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over 200 million. You're not worth that.
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You're not worth it. So there's a rule here.
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It's my personal opinion. He's not worth that victim and
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beyond my money. He's not he's not good facult
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play as he is. He's not real now since he
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waited too long, waited too long.
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Remember, traded Kim, traded Kim, maybe a for some NBA teams.
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Start next week. Start next week for the NBA
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team, just start next week and you're still a free agent.
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Now he might have no choice but to attempt a qualifying offer
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from the Pistons of $9.6 million.
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He might as well take it. He might as well take it.
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Shut up. Shut up and play this year for
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real, honestly. But he's still holding out for a
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match contract of over 200 million and he's not worth it.
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No one's going to sign up for that much money right now.
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Nobody. He waited too long.
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He should have took that 190. If I was him, I'd go back to
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business, see if that 190 is still on the table.
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If not, if not, hey, take that one year quantifying offer at
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9.6 million. Six million.
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Be happy, get your numbers up. Hopefully next offseason
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basically you'll be able to do something.
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Keyword hopefully. He waited too damn long.
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Too damn long. Basically.
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Him being stubborn, him give me something like a freaking mule.
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See if you'll spew my language. Basically the reason why he's in
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a situation again. Again, he's not worth over $200
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million. Basically, I'm going to say that
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he's not worth that victim and y'all money.
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He is not worth it. He's not.
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He really is not. In my personal opinion.
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He is not worth all that damn money.
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He's not because you screwed up in the playoffs.
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You're screw up in the playoffs. Basically, the younger chopper
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is causing you to get all it's causing you to get this less
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money for real. If you did good, you're good in
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the playoffs for a championship. It'll be the whole different
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story. It'll be the whole different
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whole, whole whole different story.
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One different story. For real.
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But, but no, but no, but but no for real, but no.
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Now you better off taking this qualifier off for real.
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Honestly man of $9.6 billion another person also who's
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eligible for a Max contract for is my man from Denver and what
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not Djokovic man for real. But he decided to wait till next
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offseason to discuss his discuss his Max contract.
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He's he's expecting to get 300 mil plus.
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I'm going to say this, he should take example from what Jen and
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Preston did because Denver, I'm going to say this.
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The Denver Nuggets is a small market club and if he gets with
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money, which I believe he's worth it, yes, he's worth over
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300 million. He's worth it.
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And if he does gets it, it's not going to leave a lot of money
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for the for the Denver Nuggets to get good players surrounding
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him so they can continue to compete.
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Let's be real here. You're not with the Lakers,
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you're not with the Knicks, you're not with Miami.
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No, you're not. You're with the different
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Nuggets, a small market club who can barely afford the money
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they're paying them right now. Honestly, man, look at the place
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around them who are leaving. What?
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Not because they like the Nuggets, can't afford to keep
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them. Some of the players, they can't.
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This is some of the free agents who are good out there, who are
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good. Nuggets should have been gotten.
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They can't really get it, but not because they've got the
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money. For real.
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And if he does? I'm saying if he does, which I
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do believe he's worth all that money, he is, if he does get the
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money he wants next season, next season for real, how much is
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going to be available? What not for?
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For not get some good quality players?
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Honestly, how much? There's nothing wrong with
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taking a pickup playing teams playing NBA stars have taken
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pickups over the years, pickups over the years to help the team
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out and try to success the success.
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My area, my area watching basketball.
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Tim Duncan did it. Everybody laughed at them.
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Spurs won championship beat beat.
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Yeah beat Miami by beat Miami by any chance?
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What? Not LeBron in them.
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Jacob Brunson recently racing Jacob Brunson did it took a pay
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cut nickname. Get all the good players, Nick,
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Win the championship for real. There's nothing wrong with
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taking a pay cut. There's nothing wrong with that.
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There's nothing wrong with that for real.
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Honestly, there's nothing wrong with that.
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For real, man, for real. There's nothing wrong with that.
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I do believe he should take that example because look at the team
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you're with. You're with the Denver Nuggets,
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a small market club which don't got the money like that.
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They'd be paying out 300 over $300 million.
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They don't, even though if they do give it to them, not that
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money, not that much money for everybody else.
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And you can be on the team where you got to do majority of the
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damn work for real. And only he gets the only he
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gets, the more he can't do all that damn work for real.
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I'll be honest with you. Hey, hey, I'll be honest with
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you, man. Hey, it's one person undefeated.
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It's father time. That's one person that is that
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is undefeated basically is father time and and that's one
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person basically there's one person basically, I'll be honest
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with you, you, you you cannot defeat man for real.
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You can defeat Eise man, especially with other teams
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basically in the in in the West that got stronger.
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Only team I got to say that hasn't got really stronger in my
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personal opinion. I got to say this.
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I know I'm going to get a lot of angry obsessed when I say this.
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Can you remember I say this is the Lakers.
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Yes, I said the Lakers. The only team I got to say the
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West, I got to say that didn't get stronger is the Los Angeles
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Lakers. Man for real Aussie man yes yes,
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you got Luca coming back looking looking good, looking, good
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looking, lean yo-yo, yo, Luca. Luca is kind of nice, the best
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shape I've ever seen him have best shape I've ever seen him.
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But I will say this though, I'll say this, though, this is his
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though, that still doesn't mean what not you're healthy through.
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He got a lot of injuries in the past and they're going to really
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need him to be what 100% to watch this season.
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If they wouldn't at least make the playoffs playoffs, yes,
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Austin Reeves, he he booked up a little bit got some muscle.
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He booked up a little bit. He should have.
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He should have, especially since he got that actual contract.
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He says he got. He got cut the shit he got man
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for real. He said a four year $180 million
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on contracts during the offseason.
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For real. He got sure that he's worth that
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he worth that money. The Lakers really are not a
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nobody sees the Lakers as a threat.
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We don't for real. And these and and these like
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Kessler, all these guys, they come on, I mean for real.
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And he's still got Vanderbilt on your team.
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You try to trade him and you trade, trade him, get rid of
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him. And nobody wants them.
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Nobody wants them, nobody wants them.
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Why would he pay $46 million for him this season that he's due
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for a team out of 12 million next next season, which we all
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know he's going to pick up. We got to know he's going to
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pick up for real. Honestly, man, for real.
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And he's not even worth that much money for real.
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I mean, I like the Lakers. I mean, I was the way the Lakers
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are formed right now, I don't see them.
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The one team is a threat. They'll make the playoffs, yes,
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but championship, Hell no. White Laker fans start, hell no,
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Hell no. Unless they make some moves
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basically at trade deadline, basically hell no, hell no.
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I don't stop seeing them basically, as I really don't.
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I really don't for real. Even though there could be some
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players available at trade deadline because there's certain
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NBA players who have yet to sign contract extensions.
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Case in point, Stephen Curry, I don't know why he says he's very
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adamant he wants to stay with the Golden State Warriors, wants
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to tie with the Golden State Warriors.
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But still, yeah, you have to sign a contract tension with
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him. He may want to stay, but like I
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keep saying, so far in his offseason, do the Golden State
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Warriors want to keep him for real?
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Honestly man, if you're going to let him go if if if I mean
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honestly, if you're not going to give him a contract tension
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trade trade him by trade deadline.
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Shave your Draymond Green. He's a free agent.
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He's free agent next season for real.
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Ozzy he's he's free agent after this upcoming season man for
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real. Ozzy even not give a comedy
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shits in trade him through. Also, Jimmy Butler is going to
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be a free agent after this upcoming season man for real.
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The way it's the way it's looking like in my personal
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opinion, Golden City can see how they are by the halfway point of
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season by every point of season look like they're not going to
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make the playoffs. I got after that gut feeling
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that those three players are going to be traded, are going to
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be traded for real honesty and then and it's going to start
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from zero because those are three them basketball players,
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which they can get a lot of traffic, shit load traffic for,
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I'll be honest with you, a shit load of traffic for and start
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all over. So even though I don't want to
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see that, I really don't want to see that.
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I want to see Steph Curry with that team.
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I think for real. But they made very little moves
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this offseason, obviously, even though according to reports,
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they tried to get LeBron James, but but Steve Kerr was like
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Steve Kerr came by minimum admitted basically, but not we
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had we had no chance of getting them, just getting them
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basically. And I don't know what the hell
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that team is doing, man. You know some good players are
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available dirt fantasy who you did not even bother to pick up,
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go to say didn't and you I'm going to say this and you and
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you run it back with the same with same players, even though
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you actually it didn't make like 11 move basis one move.
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That's about it, But you run it back with same damn players,
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man. I mean damn, I mean damn, man,
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for real, I mean damn, damn I I I definitely wouldn't have
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Stephen Kurzman and him getting traded.
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I have that gut feeling, even though I could be wrong.
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I could be wrong here, but I do that feeling.
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He could be traded, could be traded for real.
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Honestly, I think that's honestly if they just all over
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this trade because you could go off to those players, you will
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get a shit load of traffic score.
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I guarantee you come trade deadline trade a lot of people.
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I guarantee you like it was going to be asking the
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availability of Butler, Draymond Green and Stephen Curry.
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Even though Gene Butler put a report.
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Gene Butler is is I'm doing better right now and you better
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right now. He's he's he's he's running
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doing sprints and everything. He ain't doing full he ain't
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doing full contact, but he's going to sprints everything.
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I will say this, I don't care if it's December and you and he's
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like 80% wait till after the All Star break to bring him back.
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That way you guarantee you know he's 100%.
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Wait till after the All Star break bring him back that way
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you guarantee you know he's officially 100%.
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Excuse me. In my personal opinion, you
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might as lose weight. I see man.
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For real man. Hey also on the New York Knicks
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Mason moves make some moves today your next sign on phone
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from a Denver 90s player went on to a training camp contract
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training contract hey hey Nick's Nick's Mason small little move
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one outside the players went on to an exhibition contract.
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Why can your Nick's got 2 roster spots open Nick's with a fill in
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2 roster spots. Hey, we'll find out We'll find
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out the trading camp. If those two roster spots
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basically wouldn't I'm going to feel honestly, man, the Nicks
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they they do need help one off the bench off the base
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basically, and I'm hoping hey, next time the Andrew Drummond
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pays off. I'm hoping it pays off there for
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real, even though some people are mad whether the next they
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didn't resign Mitchell Robinson understand why they didn't do
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it. The deuce injury prone do this
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freaking injury prone all he he he can't stay healthy to save
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his life. He can't stay healthy to save
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his freaking life. He really can't basically, Oh,
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hey, I'm going to say this. The Boston sun's going to find
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out. But when he's on the court.
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Damn good defender, damn good Reebonder he's damn good.
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I'll say this damn good. Oh my God yes yes he is yes he
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is, but is his health issue. Can he stay healthy?
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Honestly man, that seems to be the problem.
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Can he stay healthy man for real.
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That could seem to be the problem for a this is going to
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be exciting NBA season coming up man for real.
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I can't wait for the upcoming NBA season Training came out
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says training camp some NBA team starts next week so like next
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week man for real. Hey, hey, hey, I really can't
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wait man, even though I want my next to repeat, but it's going
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to be tough. Philly got better.
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Raptors are scary. Raptors are scary.
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Everybody's everybody's sleeping on any of the Pacers.
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They did not lose anybody. All they did was gain entered
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this game and Hollabur's coming back full healthy.
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Y'all don't sleep on any of the patients don't sleep on the
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patients for real. Do not sleep on the any of the
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patients for real, honestly, but the east has gotten way
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stronger. The West I got WI got field,
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didn't get that that much stronger.
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Basically there's even though one of the spurs and somebody
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went down to their bench. We got things a good move.
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But hey, I'm going to say this man, watch out.
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Hey, I think the NBA championship for the NBA season
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is is is going to come from the east.
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Who I don't know. I want to say my next.
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I really want to say my next, but it's yo-yo.
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I don't know. I don't know coming.
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I would say I don't know, man, because a lot of TV got better,
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but I'm going to say this. Boston Celtics need to have a
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good year. You traded Jayden Brown to
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Philly. Boston needs to have a good
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year. Boston don't have a good year
21:53
and they fail. Boy, it's not going to look
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good. It's not going to look good for
22:02
real for for real because for honestly, man, because you and
22:06
your fans chatting the way to finish chatting what not for the
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men chairman you fight for the chairman, you fight.
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Oh, Speaking of the New York Mets, right, Speaking of the
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Mets, the owner basically of the New York Mets said he's not
22:20
going to fire what not the president.
22:23
He's not going to fight the president, general manager of
22:25
the of the New York press. He's not going to get fired even
22:27
though fans are asking to be fired, which he should be fired
22:31
to be fired, especially after letting Pete Alonso go away.
22:34
I mean we saw Pete Alonso was doing the season right.
22:38
You saw when he didn't let the past two nights basically past
22:41
two nights against the New York Mets got three hundreds home run
22:44
and 301 home run fans fans in in city field chick for Pete Alonzo
22:50
the Baltimore Orioles. That's sad and the owners
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nowhere to be found. According to reports, the owner
22:56
is nowhere to be found. He wasn't a building nowhere to
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be found in the area period. That's sad and and also
23:02
according to reports were not there two people the metro are
23:04
looking at for for on the manager next year looking at
23:08
Carlos Beltran album pool holes with Carlos Beltran being the
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most likely candidate. Reason why Carlos Beltran being
23:15
more like getting it and instead I would pull even though fans
23:18
want our pool holes, but reason why reason why according to
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reports, they might not select our pool holes because pool
23:25
holes wants more control of what players get added and what
23:28
players are not added onto the team.
23:30
In a way I way in the way I respect our pools for that.
23:34
You want to know who's going to be there.
23:36
You want to let you who can beat them Not going to be you want
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that much control In a way I don't blame them.
23:40
I really don't honestly, especially the way to especially
23:43
way to mess with playing the past couple of seasons.
23:46
He's shaved and Jerry he he's going to have that much control.
23:49
He really does. He honestly really, really does
23:52
Jerry have that much control? But you know, metro office is is
23:56
not allowed to happen. Not going to give up that
23:59
they're going to give up not that much control basically what
24:02
not because they're freaking idiots man for real.
24:04
You just give me stupid decisions man I mean damn.
24:07
But hey, me personally, I'd like to see other pools as as our
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manager of the New York Mets man for real as many of the New York
24:15
players. I think other pools would make a
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damn good manager. Remember Carlos Belcher should
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have been manager back in 2000, but was it but wasn't because
24:24
wasn't because of that cell phone scandal basically when
24:27
that that that scandal in Houston that came out that's why
24:30
he didn't end up becoming manager for real.
24:32
But I hope, I hope we get an albuterol.
24:36
I think it would be a David manager.
24:38
And I also would say this, I would say this.
24:40
So far, some decisions for all this made has been a bust that
24:44
we had, especially giving Juan Sodo all that much money.
24:48
He ain't turned out good. Paying Juan Sodo all that much
24:51
money had not turned out good. It's not it's not for real.
24:56
It it really is not. It's it's been a bust, man.
24:59
It really has it really, it really, really has for real,
25:04
Man, man, man, go. It's so for a, a, a a
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missionary. The Mets played one of these
25:12
past three games. They got swept by the Boswell
25:15
Orioles. Hey, the Mets.
25:16
The team gave up. The team gave up.
25:19
The team gave up. Hey, if the team lose the rest
25:21
of their games, I would not be surprised.
25:23
Why not for real? I see, I see.
25:25
You can see on their faces, on their face right now that the
25:27
mesh players are checked out since not make the playoffs, not
25:31
going to make the playoffs. I'm thinking like, hey Maz, end
25:33
the season, go home right now. That's the way they feel right
25:36
now. For real.
25:36
Honestly, man, I still feel it right now and it's sad and it
25:40
really is sad, man. It really is sad, man.
25:43
Damn, it sucks being the Mets fan right now.
25:45
It really does sucks being the Mets fan right now.
25:47
It does, man, it really does mean Hey, don't forget to watch
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