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10-15-26 Hour 1 - Avs lose to Stars in Shootout/Brock Huard on Bo Nix's struggles/Brennan Marion vs the Media · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardi, and Kane On Demand.
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  Speaker 3: Seahawks and Broncos tonight. It is a Nuggets ticket Thursday,
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  Speaker 3: so we'll have key words every hour on the 20s.
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  Speaker 3: Chad Brown at 8 o'clock, Jeff Legwald at 9. But
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  Speaker 3: let's go to last night. The Avs lose in a
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  Speaker 3: shootout to the Dallas Stars, but they do take three
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  Speaker 3: of four points in two nights, which is obviously something
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  Speaker 3: that's very good, going against a good team. I can't
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  Speaker 3: get over that game. You could have won like, felt
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  Speaker 3: like six or seven, could have put six or seven
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  Speaker 3: on them last night, if not for posts and crossbars
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  Speaker 3: and negated goals. which were a theme early in that game.
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  Speaker 3: And the one I can't get over, Moj, I can't
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  Speaker 3: get over the Landy kicking goal. I don't get it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand how they call it a goal on
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  Speaker 3: the ice. They go to review. You have to tell
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  Speaker 3: me with certainty that his intention was to kick the
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  Speaker 3: puck into the net. I didn't see it.
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  Speaker 2: Vic, I know that we clown around in this program
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  Speaker 2: from time to time. But I also appreciate good logic.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I really do. There are times when I'm
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  Speaker 2: pretty headstrong in an opinion and you present some logic
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  Speaker 2: and you know I'm like that I'm pliable with that
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  Speaker 2: that's okay there are some things about the National Hockey
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  Speaker 2: League gentlemen that drive me absolutely insane and this is
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  Speaker 2: one of them.
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  Speaker 1: The subject that the subjective nature of no kick in
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  Speaker 1: motion is.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah yeah yes but that's not what I'm getting
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  Speaker 2: at I don't this is the God's honest truth Brett
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  Speaker 2: Vic Nelly listening audience The shot that comes in and
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  Speaker 2: then goes off to Smith and then off of Landis-Scoggin in,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that people realize the human brain, you
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  Speaker 2: cannot in that span of time on the save and
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  Speaker 2: then off landing and in, the human brain cannot conceive
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  Speaker 2: of nor can it make a decision to kick a
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  Speaker 2: puck in that short amount of time. And I have
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  Speaker 2: a really bad analogy if you'd like to hear it.
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  Speaker 3: I would love to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even want to do it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you've already said you're going to do it.
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  Speaker 1: God, it takes you so long to speak.
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  Speaker 2: Do you recall the tragedy of the sub that imploded
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  Speaker 2: going to the Titanic some years ago? Yeah. And if
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  Speaker 2: you read about it and why it happened and so on,
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  Speaker 2: but thank goodness the tragedy of the people that passed away,
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  Speaker 2: they couldn't conceive of it happening because it happened before
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  Speaker 2: the human brain can.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: That's a terrible analogy, but I'm saying the human brain
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  Speaker 2: takes so-and-so, you know, point whatever of a second to
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  Speaker 2: actually recognize something or whatever. Off of DeSmith and off
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  Speaker 2: of Landeskog.
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  Speaker 1: What does Submarine have to do with this?
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  Speaker 3: I think what Moser's getting at, if I can do
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  Speaker 3: it in a more pointed and quicker way.
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  Speaker 2: You're way better at it than me, yes.
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  Speaker 3: You're saying Landeskog was reacting to the puck. That was it.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't doing the act of kicking. He just saw
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  Speaker 3: the puck and it hit his foot.
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  Speaker 2: That is correct. Vic, an NHL net is six feet
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  Speaker 2: wide and four feet tall. Yeah. And when they talk
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  Speaker 2: about playing the puck with a high stick on a
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  Speaker 2: goal or whatever the case may be, it's above the crossbar. Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 2: let's say you've got a player who's, let's say he's
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  Speaker 2: a six-foot player, plus his skates are on, and he
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  Speaker 2: touches the puck shoulder height. Logic tells you that that's
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  Speaker 2: higher than four feet. Yeah. Do you see what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: But no, but no, but they don't go by that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What they go by is, well, you got to get
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  Speaker 2: the camera angle and compare it to the top of
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  Speaker 2: the net. And, you know, is it stick below the
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  Speaker 2: top of the net? Just measure how tall that... blanker is,
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  Speaker 2: and where it happened in relation to his own body.
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  Speaker 2: This is just logical stuff. Lannis Gogg simply, his brain,
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  Speaker 2: no human brain will work fast enough on that rebound
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  Speaker 2: off of Casey to Smith to be able to boot
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  Speaker 2: a puck into the net. And so that logic should just,
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  Speaker 2: that should be the thing that runs the day and
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  Speaker 2: runs the decision and but it's not. They slow it
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  Speaker 2: down to nanoseconds, and look, if his leg is kind
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  Speaker 2: of moving forward, you see what I'm getting at, Vic?
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  Speaker 2: Does that make sense to you at all?
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  Speaker 3: No, it does.
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  Speaker 2: You're sitting there with your teeth in your mouth, and
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  Speaker 2: you're looking at me like that, and I don't think
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  Speaker 2: you're getting it.
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  Speaker 1: My issue is, it's very simple.
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  Speaker 5: Goals are so hard to come by in the National
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  Speaker 5: Hockey League at times.
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  Speaker 1: It's so hard.
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  Speaker 5: You put all your work in to find the back
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  Speaker 5: of the net, and then you get two of them
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  Speaker 5: wiped off the board.
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  Speaker 1: One of them for Frivolous reasons. I just... I've never
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  Speaker 1: understood why they do that. I mean, a goal's a goal.
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  Speaker 1: That was a goal.
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  Speaker 2: It was a goal. I've seen, in my opinion, much worse,
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  Speaker 2: awarded a goal a billion times in this league. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess this morning, I sit here, I sound
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  Speaker 2: a little whiny, a little frustratiato, so to speak.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a goal, okay?
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  Speaker 2: It's a goal. And then Brins comes in. How many...
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  Speaker 2: I'm just so sick of multiple doinks.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Doink, doink, doink, doink. 87 posts.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there was some on the other side, too. There
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  Speaker 5: was some on the other side. In overtime, was it
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  Speaker 5: Mikko that had a wide open net? Who was it
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  Speaker 5: that hit the pipe?
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  Speaker 1: No, it was Robertson, I think.
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  Speaker 6: Moj, can I also ask you, on that Gabe Landeskog
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  Speaker 6: goal that was taken away, When the ref was announcing
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  Speaker 6: the decision, one of the things he said was that
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  Speaker 6: Landeskog looked.
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  Speaker 3: At the puck like his eyes were open. Yeah, what
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  Speaker 3: is that?
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  Speaker 1: What the hell are we talking about?
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  Speaker 6: So because he looked at the puck, that means he
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  Speaker 6: intended to kick it. Okay, so Gabe, just so you
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  Speaker 6: know now, when you're in front of the net looking
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  Speaker 6: for rebounds, close your eyes so the goal counts.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, also another shorthanded goal given up last night. I
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  Speaker 2: don't like that. But listen, Dallas is a very good
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  Speaker 2: hockey club.
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  Speaker 1: They just are.
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  Speaker 2: They're very good. They don't give up a lot. The
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  Speaker 2: fact that you took three or four points out of
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  Speaker 2: them and they only took two out of four points
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  Speaker 2: on you, I'll take that all day and also all night.
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  Speaker 2: All day and also all night. But it's just, that's
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a frustrating thing. And it is
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  Speaker 2: what it is, man. Then it comes down to a shootout.
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  Speaker 2: Dallas is very good. You're talking about two of the
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  Speaker 2: top five teams in the entire league going head-to-head. These
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  Speaker 2: are the kind of games you're going to get. You
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  Speaker 2: win 3-2 at Dallas, you lose 3-2 at home in
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  Speaker 2: a shootout.
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  Speaker 3: How much do you think they actually work on shootout stuff?
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  Speaker 1: At the end of every practice, they're messing with that.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit, yeah, but they don't really practice it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just kind of like, go out, try and
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  Speaker 3: make a save, go try and score.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. The rope enhance shot Say what you
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  Speaker 2: will about him, it was really good. Robertson's first shot
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  Speaker 2: on wedge was really good.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I was.
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  Speaker 5: Ticked off that Dallas, even going to overtime, that they
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  Speaker 5: got a point out of it. I was already ticked
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  Speaker 5: off then, and they ended up getting two points. So
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  Speaker 5: I was mad they got a point.
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  Speaker 2: But, Nelly, getting back to your point, the player looked
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  Speaker 2: at a puck, and I'm like, league. League. I love you,
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  Speaker 2: and officiating in this league is incredibly difficult. But that
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  Speaker 2: being said, you have logic to bail you out of
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  Speaker 2: making a difficult decision in Toronto. Logic tells you that
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  Speaker 2: the human brain can't comprehend that quickly and kick a puck.
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  Speaker 2: It just can't happen. Do we have any sound from
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  Speaker 2: Coach last night? Did he talk about this? Yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 2: he thinks they got hosed, essentially. Let me sum it
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  Speaker 2: up for you. We got hosed. Yeah. Is that good enough?
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing. You're coming away, look, without two points
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  Speaker 3: from last night. I get it. Those are two good
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  Speaker 3: games that they played. They should have been two wins.
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  Speaker 3: Was it perfect?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: You want to see the power play a little bit better?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Was the Landis Scott goal, was that one right after
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  Speaker 3: the power play ended?
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  Speaker 2: The one that actually counted? Yes, it was. Yes, it
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  Speaker 2: was right as dude was coming out of the box.
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  Speaker 2: So it acted like an even strength goal. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it acted like a power play goal, even though it
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  Speaker 2: was even strength.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: It was one of those weird ones. It's just right
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  Speaker 3: after it gets done. You could look at it and say, look,
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  Speaker 3: you scored on the power play.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, we can talk about this all day. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to belabor the point. The Penguins will be
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  Speaker 2: in town tomorrow. Sidney Crosby and company. But it's just,
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  Speaker 2: it's frustrating because I prefer.
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  Speaker 2: I prefer logic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So, look, game tonight, Broncos and Seahawks. There was
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  Speaker 3: an answer from Brock Huard yesterday that he summed up
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  Speaker 3: Bo Nix in a way that he said, I've lived
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  Speaker 3: what he's going through right now. I thought he had
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  Speaker 3: great insight. And he said, it ended my career. And
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  Speaker 3: so I want to get to that in just a
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  Speaker 3: few minutes. But when you're thinking about what's on tap
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  Speaker 3: for tonight, we already got the news. Talano Hufanga is
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  Speaker 3: going to be out two to three weeks, so he
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  Speaker 3: will not be playing tonight. Pat Sertan will not be
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  Speaker 3: playing tonight. I don't know what the status of Riley
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  Speaker 3: Moss is going to be. He's been limited in practice
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  Speaker 3: the last couple of days. Short turnaround this week, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe they feel like they just want to
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  Speaker 3: give all those guys one more I have no idea
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  Speaker 3: but here's my question just as a an overarching question
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  Speaker 3: to the game how much is on the line tonight
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  Speaker 3: does it kind of feel I don't want to say
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  Speaker 3: it's a house money game but if we're looking to
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  Speaker 3: be three and three you got three wins already if
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  Speaker 3: you lose your three and three if you win your
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  Speaker 3: four and two how much you think is on the line.
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  Speaker 1: It's still very early. It's not a must-win game.
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  Speaker 2: It isn't.
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  Speaker 1: That's the reality.
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  Speaker 5: You would like to see the Broncos' offense improve. You
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  Speaker 5: would like to see a sense of confidence. If they
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  Speaker 5: win this game, I'll say this.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say this.
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  Speaker 5: I don't care how they win this game tonight, if
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  Speaker 5: they win it. I am not going to sit here
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  Speaker 5: on Friday. I promise you, if they win 7-3 and
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  Speaker 5: the offense looks terrible, I'm not going to complain like
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  Speaker 5: I did after that Chargers game.
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  Speaker 1: I promise you. Listen to my words. I promise you.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, bring up your pinky for a second. Can I
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  Speaker 3: promise too? I promise not to do it. I did
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  Speaker 3: that last week because it was the damn Chargers, okay?
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  Speaker 3: And the Chargers are terrible.
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  Speaker 1: This is different.
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 5: If it's a boring game and I'm snoozed along and
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  Speaker 5: the Broncos find a way to win and they do
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  Speaker 5: so without three of their starting defensive backs, I promise
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  Speaker 5: you I will not complain about it.
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  Speaker 1: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: If you can hold down Oh, listen to me. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how healthy he is. I think he's healthy.
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  Speaker 2: But if you can slow down Jackson Smith and Jigba.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Mad Dog.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead. Jackson Smith and Jigba.
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  Speaker 2: Nelly can't resist it. If you can slow down this
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  Speaker 2: cat with three of your starting four defensive backs out.
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  Speaker 2: Then you have done something wonderful. And you know what, Vic, Brett?
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  Speaker 2: You're making all kinds of weird noises. I woke up
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  Speaker 2: this morning feeling remarkably good about this game. I think
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  Speaker 2: that Bo is going to have a good game. I
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  Speaker 2: think the Broncos offense is going to come to life tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Vic has loins. I
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  Speaker 2: have something that talks to me, and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what it is.
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  Speaker 3: Hemorrhoids?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I've got this massive roid that's just screaming at me, Hey, boys,
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  Speaker 2: I'm down here. What's up, man? They're going to play good, dude.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I just felt remarkably calm about this game
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  Speaker 2: this morning. I still do. I think they're going to win.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with Vic on this. I will not complain, no
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  Speaker 3: matter how, if you get a win tonight. No matter
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  Speaker 3: how you get a win, get a win.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because all opponents are different. And I think Bronco
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  Speaker 5: fans who... We're wondering why people were critical after the
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  Speaker 5: Chargers game.
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  Speaker 1: It's because of the opponent. The opponent matters.
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  Speaker 5: And this is a defending champion tonight who they need
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  Speaker 5: this win as badly as you do. They're in the
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  Speaker 5: same spot, right? They're watching the San Francisco Niners run
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  Speaker 5: away with the division.
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  Speaker 2: That's correct.
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  Speaker 1: They need to win.
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  Speaker 2: They do.
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  Speaker 1: They're desperate. Yep. And the Broncos are at home. It's
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  Speaker 1: a short week. I don't care if it's 2-0.
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  Speaker 5: I don't care if it's a safety to nothing tonight.
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  Speaker 1: If that's your score, I'll take it. No complaints from me.
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  Speaker 3: Again, this Brock Huard audio from the morning sprint yesterday, very,
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  Speaker 3: very interesting in how he was evaluating Bo Nix. We'll
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  Speaker 3: get to that in just a couple of minutes. Don't forget,
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  Speaker 3: final whistle doesn't mean that we're done talking football after
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  Speaker 3: Broncos-Seahawks tonight. Tune in, Mile High Post game show for
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  Speaker 3: instant reaction, analysis, and plenty of opinions from LG, Vic, DMACC, myself.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you're on tonight too?
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  Speaker 2: I am.
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  Speaker 1: Man, we're really straight to the bottom of that barrel.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, listen.
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  Speaker 5: When we come back, I don't know if you guys
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  Speaker 5: watched the Nuggets preseason game last night. But a player
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  Speaker 5: that I'm expecting big things out of got injured.
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  Speaker 1: Late in that game. And I don't like it, man.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not going to call it devastating at all.
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  Speaker 1: That's the wrong word. But it's just so unfortunate. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see what happens, and we'll see where that injury goes,
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  Speaker 1: but we'll explain it when we come back.
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  Speaker 2: Was that Nancy Sinatra? Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, good ear.
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  Speaker 3: What? Why did she get to make music?
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  Speaker 2: Because her old man was Frank Sinatra.
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  Speaker 1: It's the same reason Sofia Coppola got to star in
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  Speaker 1: Godfather 3.
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  Speaker 2: Nepotism.
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  Speaker 3: What you got, Vic? Because I want to play this
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  Speaker 3: Brock Huard audio. What happened last night?
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  Speaker 1: Well, don't hurry me. You make it sound like this
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  Speaker 1: is nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, I didn't mean it that way. I was just,
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  Speaker 3: I was going to do the Brock Huard thing. Then
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  Speaker 3: you said, when we come back, we're going to do
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  Speaker 3: the Nuggets thing. So let's do them both.
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  Speaker 5: Well, last night, something happened in that game against the Clippers,
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  Speaker 5: a preseason basketball, just like any preseason. Key number one,
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  Speaker 5: don't get hurt. Well, last night, late in the game,
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  Speaker 5: Julian Strother, who I thought has played well this preseason,
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  Speaker 5: got hurt.
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  Speaker 1: He was dribbling.
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  Speaker 5: Somehow got his leg tucked underneath him. Looks like an
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  Speaker 5: apparent knee injury. He'll undergo an MRI today. I don't
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  Speaker 5: know how bad it is, obviously. We'll get the results
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  Speaker 5: of the MRI as soon as possible, but it didn't
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  Speaker 5: look good. He had to be helped off the court.
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  Speaker 5: Could not go on his own power. This is going
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  Speaker 5: to affect two different people. Julian, obviously, who has been
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  Speaker 5: Injured in swaths of every season.
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  Speaker 3: I feel so bad. Every time he feels like he
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  Speaker 3: gets a little momentum, he gets hurt and he leaves.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: He's had the neck injury. He's had concussion issue. He's
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: had this now. And I really did. And I told
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: you guys in the offseason, I said, I expect Julian
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: Strother to take that leap, make that leap this season.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: I think he can be a key player. First of all,
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: he rebounds very well.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: He shoots.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: He's got a floater. He can drive to the basket.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: He's tough, tougher than he looks. And the only issue
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: with him was defense. And I thought he was improving
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: in that area. I thought that Julian Strother going into
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: this season had a real good chance to make that
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: second unit rotation.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Well, this changes everything. Again, I don't know how bad
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: it is. Hopefully it's not as bad as it looked.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: But anytime you have to be helped off the court,
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: that can't be good. Julian Strother is going to be
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: down for a bit. We'll see how long. This opens
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: the door now. If there was any suspicion, I think
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: Cam Whitmore makes the team. Cam last night finished with
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: 17 points, 7 of 13. He's a burly dude. He's
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: not afraid to go to the basket.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: He's strong. He's not the same player as Strother. Different
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: type of body, obviously.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: But I think it opens up a position for him
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: to make this roster.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: If you missed the game, the other note last night, Trevin.
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: Brazil was awesome. The rookie was awesome. He had 22
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: points in 25 minutes.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Vic, I guess what's going on with this cat? He's
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: a second rounder. Yeah, he's a second rounder, but he's
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: impressed the entire way. Yeah, he's just very athletic. Through
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: summer league and then right on into the preseason, this
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: guy has, it seems like he performs.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Here's what he's done in four preseason games, by the way.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: This is pretty nuts. He's attempted... 17 shots. He has
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: made 14 of them.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: Well, he's outperformed his competition at that position. I mean,
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: he's outperformed Zeke Nagy and Deron Holmes.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: And whoever they trot out there to compete against him,
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: he's been more efficient.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: He's been more explosive. Last night, defensively, he looked good.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: So that's a great trend for the Nuggets to see
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: Trevin Brazil, a rookie, get that kind of action. but
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: overall last night, anytime you lose a player, the injury
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: bug hits the nuggets early in the season, and I
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: hate it.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Is there one more preseason game?
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, one more, and that's it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Small night against the Lakers, and that's it.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Why does it feel like the NBA's preseason is 18
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: times as long as the Avalanche preseason?
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: It's five games, two weeks. Five games, two weeks. That's
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: what it is.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: NHL sucks. NHL training camp, couple days, couple games.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Let's go.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Let's go, baby.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: So, Vic, you were the one that brought this to
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: my attention yesterday. Brock Huard, who lives here, right? He
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: lives here, but he does a show in Seattle.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Is that right? Exactly right. He does a morning radio show.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: He's on right now at the number one rated sports
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: radio show in Seattle.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: He's been doing it for a long time. A great show.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: And a quick back story on Brock Huard. Got a
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: chance to visit with him when I called the Cherry
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Creek Valor game.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: So, Brock, if you guys remember, not only did he
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: play collegiate football in At University of Washington, correct, Moshe?
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: He played collegially there, played professional football for a while.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: He went on to become a very accomplished broadcaster. He
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: was like doing lead stuff for Fox on football, okay?
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: He gave up the television gig, just walked away from
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: the broadcast gig, moved his family to Denver, and his
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: daughters are really good athletes, and his son, Titus Heward,
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: is the starting quarterback at Valor. He's a junior who's
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: getting looks from all over.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Over the country.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: When I say all over the country, Vic, all the
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: biggins are in on him. 100%.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Everybody. Everybody wants a piece of this kid. He's that good.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: And Coach Sanford can obviously explain more because he coaches
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: the kid. But for Brock to walk away from all
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: that and say, you know what, I'm going to devote
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: the next few years I want my family living here.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: He moved the whole family and still does his radio
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: show in Seattle. So that's how committed he is to
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: making sure his kids get the best lot at this. Yesterday,
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: listening to Brock, because he's tight with obviously Seattle sports,
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: listening to him talk about Darnold and Bowe, And the
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: differences in what they're going through is very revealing.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Well, he was talking about we played. Well, I'll just
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: let you listen to it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: This morning on the show, we spent a segment playing
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: the 60 seconds of Bo Nix yesterday versus about 25
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: seconds of Sam Darnold. And they were both reacting to
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: the same thing.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Turnovers, right?
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: Getting the ball out of your hand. What are you seeing?
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: And for Bo, it was fascinating. I think it was
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: such a window in to what ended my NFL career.
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: I could not turn the voices off. I mean, I
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: just couldn't do it. When I got to the NFL,
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: it was Mike Holmgren's voice, right? It was just Tom
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: Moore's voice, very different voices, but their voices. And I couldn't, like,
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: shut them out. Like, I got to do this. I
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: got to do this.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: So there's a second part to this, but just to
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: remind you guys, this is what he's talking about.
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: That's honestly, really, and truly the biggest battle right now is, like,
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: you want to be aggressive, want to be aggressive, want
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: to be aggressive, and then you see stats, and you're like, well,
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: this team is causing the most turnovers in the league.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: And then you're like, okay, well, I can't put my
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: team in a situation where I'm turning the football over
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: and putting our defense in a bad spot, giving them
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: a short field. And at the end of the day,
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: it's like, who cares? Why would I go out there
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: worried about throwing an interception? Why would I go out
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: there trying to throw every football 50 yards down the field?
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Just play the play. He goes on to say this
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: about Bo.
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: And you listen to Bo yesterday. It was like the
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: most amazing window into, well, I got to do this,
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: but if I do this and then while the defense
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: takes the ball away and then maybe I check it down,
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: then I got to play the play.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: And then I got, and if I throw an interception,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: who cares?
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: Like it was just voices in my head. And Sam
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: Darnold in contrast was like, got to get back to basics,
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: beaten eyes, get back to what I know. simplify the game,
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: do the things that I know that we've done all
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: spring and summer, and we'll get back to it. And coach,
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: it was such a window in to, yeah, year three
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: versus year number nine in their careers.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I think it's fascinating because it's kind of what we've
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: all been thinking for a while now. I thought dating
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: back to last year, it's how can a quarterback be
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: so sputtery in the first three quarters of a football
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: game and then do everything amazing in the fourth quarter.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: And I always thought that I think he's just, he's
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: trying to process way too much early in games. Like
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: he wants to make sure he's perfect. He doesn't want
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: to make a mistake. I always want to make the
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: right read and you aren't reacting enough and relying on
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: your God given talent. Like, God has made you a
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: quarterback because you got a big arm. You got your mobile.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: You make plays on the run. You do this and that.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: You don't need to be thinking so much that you
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: paralyze yourself. And that's exactly what Brock Huard's talking about.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: He said, it ended my career. I couldn't get the
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: voices out of my head instead of just going out
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: and playing the sport, playing football.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: But I also recall what was her call sign? And
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Top Gun. What was Kelly McGillis' call sign? Charlie, help me.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Loser. Maverick says, if you think, you're dead. And what
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: she says. Pretty big gamble with a $ 35 million airplane, Lieutenant.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: That mouth out corner is waiting.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: It's waiting. So the point, Brett, is I dig what
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: you're saying. I'm trying to find out. This goes back
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: to Vic's chickens, farmers, eggs thing. Toast, all of the
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: crap that he threw out earlier in the week. Is
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: he being coached that way, overcoached that way? Is it
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: being pounded into his head? Has it been pounded into
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: his head every single day for two and a half years?
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Or is this just who he is? Is this just
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the way that his brain works? And I'll tell you what,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: the more I think about it, how revealing was this?
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: When Sean Payton says on Monday that, Yeah, I went
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: back to listen to what Bo said in the postgame.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Well, you're supposed to know what's going on in your
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: quarterback's head, right? So even Peyton said, I had to
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: step back and go and listen to my own quarterback
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: and what he's discussing and what his answers are to
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: get an insight into what's going on in his freaking brain.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: So maybe I can coach him better or less hard
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: or just be adaptable. It's very interesting, Vic.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Too many voices. Too many opinions. Too many thoughts. The
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: only analogy I can give is the one we always give.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: The golf swing. Too many thoughts. Too many YouTube videos.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Too much.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: You know what's funny, Vic? A couple of weeks ago,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: I had one of those moments where I was standing
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: over the golf ball for an eternity, and I don't
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: know why. I was just thinking about a million things,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: and I wouldn't just go. I couldn't bring myself to
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: swing the club.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: It's weird.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Right on, Kevin Naugh.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: No, it happens.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: No, but seriously, I think that's what's going on with
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: him right now. And here's what I hope. I think,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: you know what, Vic? I'll make a prediction.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: What are you saying? Paralysis by analysis?
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying? For sure, that's what it is.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Now, I'm going to make a prediction. And it's, I
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: think something's going to happen tonight that Vic's been begging
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: for all year. What did Sean Payton say about Bo
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Nix earlier this week?
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Let her rip.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I think he's going up to him being like, dude,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: just go out and play. Here's what we're going to do.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Who cares?
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: First play, we're taking a shot. We're going to rip
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: this band-aid off immediately.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: That's what I suggested they do last week.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: It really does feel like when he said let it rip,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I think that he understands that the paralysis by analysis
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: thing is real for him right now. We're going to
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: take a five-step drop. We're going to put Jalen Waddell
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: on a deep post or on a go route, and
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: you're just going to let it rip.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: First play, deep post Waddell. Second play, left sideline, back shoulder, Sutton.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Third play, then you can run the ball up. I
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: don't care, but get it going.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I think I would say if you have to overthrow
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: your receiver by 20 yards on a go route, then
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: do that. Just sit back and let one bleep and go.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: That's it. And God, I hope that happens tonight. I
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: think this game is so big for Bo Nix for
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: a number of reasons. Number one, if you get the
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: win tonight, then you're four and two. And that's, I mean, you're,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: you're in great position after that for six weeks. You
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: know what the next six games of the Denver Broncos are? Cardinals,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: your mom. It's Cardinals, Chiefs, tough. Then Panthers, Raiders, Steelers, Dolphins.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: It looks great.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: That's the next six.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks very enticing.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: But hang on, hang on. Here's what I'm getting at.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Those are opponents that have bad defenses. The Carolina defense
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: is terrible. The Cardinals give up a ton of points.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: The Raiders give up a ton of points. The Dolphins
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: give up a ton of points. You can find your
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: groove again in the next six weeks. The question's going
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: to be what happens when you go against the better
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: defenses in the league. I think he needs to have
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: a good game tonight against a good defense.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I feel like he will, though. I just feel like
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: there's just some sort of thing out there. I just
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: feel like he's going to be okay, Vic.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: He's in a rut.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: He's in a mental rut, not a physical rut. And
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: everybody who says it's his injury, I don't see that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: I think it's just a mental rut that he's in, processing.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: And it reminds me a lot, you know, his rookie year.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Do you remember the opener in Seattle and then a
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: couple games thereafter? He refused to use the middle of
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: the field. He wouldn't go to the middle of the
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: field at all.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Because that's where all the traffic exists, right? Don't
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: play in traffic. Well, I'd like to see just a
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: couple shots there. A couple shots and just see what's available.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Utilize it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: I said it in the appetizer, Vic. There's a part
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: of me that wants– I want him to throw a
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: pick today. I wanted to push the ball downfield or
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: go over the middle and throw a pick and then
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: realize it's okay. It's okay. Like, yeah, you don't want
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: to turn the ball over, but it's okay if you
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: occasionally do that. Like, the MVP of the league last year,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: the guy who's going to finish top five in, like,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: every major quarterback category, Matthew Stafford, also has the record
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: for what?
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Most interceptions.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Most pick sixes in a career.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pick sixes. That's what I mean.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Most pick sixes. And guess what? He's pretty damn good.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: It's okay. You're going to make a mistake every once
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: in a while. That's fine. But you can't really make
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: a mistake if you don't take a risk.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Take some risks.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Now, you don't want to go full.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: No, you don't want to be Jameis.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You don't want to do that.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: I was watching that Giants game. Jameis gets near the
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: red zone and he can't help himself. He tries to
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: squeeze one in there and it's. Ultimately, always picked off.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: But look, that's been what's played to Jameis' career. It's
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: why he wasn't, you know, didn't live up to the
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: billing of the number one overall pick. But I got
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: to tell you, part of me, like, I think I
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: would rather have the guy with that mentality than somebody
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: who's scared to make the throw.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Let me talk about... something here that's being asked, and
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: I agree with you on that. Josh on the text
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: line says, do you think Bo is sharing too much information,
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: being too honest with the media?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: No.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: And here's why.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: I believe if you bottle that stuff up, if you're
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: truly mentally just tied up The best tonic for that
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: is to express it.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: The best therapy is to talk about it.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: So what? Yeah.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: You know, is it better for him to just sit there,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: shake his head, and he feels like he's going to explode?
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Just talk about it.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Big deal. You know what? For me, it gives me...
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I feel empathetic.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: 100%. I was just going to say it. Like, my
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: perspective on him actually changed. If he went back to
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: the podium and he.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: he's got a little bit of that, that Sean Payton
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: in him where you can be like, clearly something isn't
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: going well. And then you're like, why isn't this going well?
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: And the answer is basically bleep you. That's what, that's
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: what they do.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Bleep you.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: I know football. You don't like, that's kind of the
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: response that you get. I actually love that he's doing this.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: I think it gives me a better understanding of what's
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: really happening. Like, Oh, maybe it's more than just like,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: you weren't, It's not just you aren't talented enough or
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: anything like that. You're going through something right now. When
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Cam Johnson did it, I felt like it made him
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: way more of an empathetic figure.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Some people, they don't want to externalize, so they eat it, right?
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: But they still talk to themselves in the way that
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: he was talking out loud. Like the time, where were we?
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Ravenna and Vic with that five iron bread. He hit
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: three straight shots dead right into the gully off a
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: tee box. And then he didn't talk for a long time.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I went radio silent.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Now, it doesn't mean.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: That's concerning.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I did the same thing.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that he's not feeling it, right? He's
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: a human being. It just means he's not doing it
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: externally to us because... it would be kind of scary.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: It was, it was really a bad day. Yeah.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: But inside my guts are melting.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Right. And you're talking to yourself like, look, just get
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: up there and hit the ball. You know, don't stand
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: over it for 20 minutes, but you're scared.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: You're embarrassed is what you are. You're embarrassed.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: You're scared to live.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: But hang on a second. I don't know. Like we've
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: had now two and a half years of bone express conferences.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Is this the most human he's ever been?
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: By a million miles. Yes. By a billion miles.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: He has been what Sanford has dubbed the Bobot every
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: time he goes up there. This is Bo Nix, the
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: human being. And I think it makes it a lot
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: more understandable.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: See, I know we're getting to the break here, but
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: my theory is correct. There's a Bo Nix that is
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: an alien robot that Sean Payton built. And there's another
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: one that's the real Bo Nix. And the real one
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: showed up at the podium the other day. A real
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: human being with flesh and blood.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: You want an example of the opposite? You want an
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: example of somebody who had, they're questioning something that isn't
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: going well, and they gave you the bleep you answer?
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: We'll get to it next. Chad Brown's going to join
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: us at 8 o'clock and 15 minutes. Jeff Legwald at 9,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: getting you ready for Broncos and Seahawks Thursday night football tonight. So,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: can I play an answer for you from a presser
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: yesterday in Boulder?
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: This is Brennan Marion, coordinator's meeting, and he is asked
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: about the running game. He takes offense to this.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: Obviously, you guys have a lot of talented backs.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: We've seen all of them featured at various points. How
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: do you guys kind of find the balance between keeping
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: guys fresh and allowing multiple guys to get carries, but
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: also maybe allowing a running back like Michael Welch to
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: find his rhythm as he's getting hot?
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the hot hand on the running back
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: thing is like, I don't know. I'll try to be
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: polite and answer the question without.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Being an a * * hole. But to me, I
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Why I'm getting asked run game questions when we've rushed
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: the ball for, I don't know, a lot of yards
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: of my whole career. We were like number one in
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: the country last year. We were number one the year before,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: number two, number three. So the run game will be fine.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: The running backs will be fine. They'll get the ball
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: when they're supposed to get the ball and they'll make plays.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: So two things here. Number one, I didn't think that
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: was an offensive question at all. He was asking, how
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: do you keep your running backs fresh?
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: He actually made it very complimentary. He started the question
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: by saying, you've been very successful with this.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why so defensive.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Secondly, if there's one thing that I love, and a
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: lot of coaches around here do this, I love the,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I in my past have been very good at doing,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: I don't care about your past. I don't care. Just
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: like I didn't care when Sean Payton talked about what
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: he did in New Orleans. I don't care what Deion
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: did before he got here. I don't care that Brennan Marion,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Sac State, had a great running game last year. Makes
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: no difference.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Do you hear that, Moj?
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: We don't care about the 80s.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: You take the Hornets out your dang mouth.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: But what a weird response.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I thought it was.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: To a complimentary question.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Brett, that's what happens when there's frustration and there is
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: pressure and there is everything that comes with that. And
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: that's what happens when you have Utah rolling into town
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: as the number 11 team in the country. If I'm
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: in a bad mood, and believe me, your stupid face
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: and your stupid face put me in a bad mood
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: on occasion. When I just look at you, Vic, I
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: just look at your face and I'm like, now I'm pissed.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I could take offense to really anything you say. You
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Yeah. If you're in a predisposed
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: bad mood, it doesn't even matter what I say, Brett.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: You can find a way to take offense to it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Well, and for the.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Record, where do you guys think CU ranks in rushing
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: this year?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Probably in the 80s somewhere.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know where.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: They're 91st.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: 91st. There you go.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Better than last year, I suppose.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: But if you look at some of these numbers, Vic,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: it's easy to see why they struggle at times. Do
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: you realize that in penalty yards per game, the Colorado
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Buffaloes rank, are you ready for this? 133rd in FBS.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: At almost 83 per.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: The question was simple.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: They're 103rd in third down percentage. If you're in the
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: hundreds in any category and you're in the big frigging 12,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: you got a big frigging problem.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: The question is simple.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Have you thought about utilizing... one featured back over three
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: or four backs. That's all. Yeah. I mean, I, again,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I think these guys are starting to feel it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they are.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: It is what it is.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, we'll find out a lot more this weekend
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: because they got a tough opponent coming to town and
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: they've had two weeks to prepare.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: That's a big thing, man. Like coming your record or
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: how you play coming off of bi-week, I think says
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: a lot about you as a coach. You have two
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: weeks to, To sit down and focus on one opponent,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: albeit a very good one in Utah. Two weeks to
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: focus on it. What do they do well? What can
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: we exploit? All these different things. How do I put
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: my guys in positions to succeed?
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: You have to have a decent performance this weekend. I'm
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: not even saying win, okay? I'm not even saying that.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: You have to look like you belong with Utah. That's it.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: look like you should be in the same realm as them.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: That's all. And I don't think that's asking too much.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: And what's the spread. Is it like 16? I think it's, uh,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: something like that.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Let me look. It is as of right this very second,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: it is, but about 16 and a half.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: That number keeps going on.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Utah's really good. I'm sorry.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: They're a really good football team. Um, We can talk
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: more about this with Chad Brown in 10 minutes. Can
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I bring something to your attention that shocked me when
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: I looked this up? I don't know if you guys
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: watched last night, the Brewers and the Dodgers. The Brewers win.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: They take a 3-0 lead over the Dodgers and the NLCS.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I happened to not do that because that was the
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Avalanche game.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Did you see all the empty seats at Dodger Stadium?
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you two things on this. Number one,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: that at bat by Bauer, I believe in the seventh inning,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: 11 pitch at bat that ends with him knocking a
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: two-run homer and basically ending the game. Just look at
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: the talent on the L.A. Dodgers, especially in their rotation.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, they trade for scuba. Like, every guy feels
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: like it's an ace on that team, right? Their lineup
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: is that of a National League All-Star team. And then
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: you got the Brewers. I'm going to give you the
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: three teams not named the Dodgers. Still in the postseason.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: And you tell me where they rank in payroll.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Where do the Brewers rank in payroll in the MLB,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: if you had to guess?
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Out of 30. I would say they're probably somewhere. They
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: got some talented guys on that team. I'd say they're
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: probably somewhere around. 22nd. No, I was going to say
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: like 17.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: They're 19. Right in between you guys.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: 19th.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: How about the Rays?
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: The Rays are about. They're about 27th. They're 28th. Wow. Okay.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: How about the Guardians?
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: 51st. The 29th. Wow.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: The 28th and 29th payrolls are the last team standing
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: in the American League. The only team that spent less
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: money than those two is the Miami Marlins. Here's what's funnier, though.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: The team that was this close to making the ALCS,
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: the Chicago White Sox, are 27th. The 27th, 28th, and
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: 29th payrolls were the last ones standing in the American League.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Are you making an argument against a salary cap now?
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, you still need a salary cap. You still
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: need it.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: But that argument you just gave us suggests otherwise.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: No, that— hang on. That suggests that you're capable of doing
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: it— Every once in a while.— in a year.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Well, how come the Rays do it every year?
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Because they're scouting departments out of this world. Because they're
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: just better than other people.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: So they get a better scouting department.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: When's the Moneyball movie being made about the Rays, by
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: the way? When's that happening? Billy Bean was really fun
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: and all this stuff. The Rays have done it for
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: 20 years.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about movies anymore.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: No, you need a salary cap because, yeah, some teams
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: that spend less money can somehow find gold. Like, what
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: happened to the Guardians? They weren't a great team this year,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: but they got hot at the right time. They got
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: really hot.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: When you say Guardians and Commanders, I always struggle to
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: figure out who it is.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: The Guardians. The team from Cleveland.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: How about that? But isn't that crazy? Like, for the record,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: the Rockies were 21st in payroll this year. And if
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: you really think about it, they spent $ 120 million. I
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: think Chris Bryant's contract is at $ 25 a year. Is
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: that what his is?
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about that.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, so if you eliminated that, then they're down. They
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: would be tied for 26th in payroll.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: From the text line, conspiracy theory. Dodgers are throwing the
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: NLCS to show that.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: It's not about salary cap.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. No.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: It's not going to stop any of that. Trust me.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: It's not going to prevent the movement that's in place.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Let me just look at the stupid lineup they have.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: I saw Blake Snell's face after he gave up back-to-back homers.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: That was a guy who was not trying to do that.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Hey, winning can be boring.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Again, did you see any parts of that game and
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: the amount of empty seats at Dodger Stadium?
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I did not. Oh, yeah.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: Do you remember when the Atlanta Braves were winning every
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: damn year and they couldn't sell out playoff games?
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I absolutely do.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Do you remember that?
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Dodgers are getting a little piece of that now.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Well, it's... What are you really watching if you're going
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: to a Dodgers game? I've always wondered this because all
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I've rooted for is terrible teams for the most part
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: until I moved here.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: You're watching almost a robotic theater because you paid all
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: this money for this talent You expect that talent to
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: play at a certain level. So if your expectations and
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: everything's already up there, where is the fun? When the
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: Denver Nuggets won an NBA championship, the fun was I
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: never thought in my lifetime they would win one.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. Like if I was just somebody
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: that didn't have a basketball team, and let's say it's
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: like 2013, 2014, 2015, somewhere in that, I forget the years.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: But let's say I didn't have a basketball team in 2015.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: And I said, you know what? Kevin Durant just went
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: to the Warriors. That's going to be my team. Is
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: that really fun? Is that a fun thing?
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Again, that's front running.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: It's the people that are out there that are Bama fans,
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: Yankee fans, Dodger fans, Laker fans.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: It's the front runner. I've never understood that. Yeah.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: I'm choosing a college football team now. I'm going to
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: pick Georgia. Can you really feel? You have to have
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: some pain with the teams that you root for. It's
• 43:21
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• 43:27
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• 43:30
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• 43:33
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• 43:42
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• 43:46
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• 43:48
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