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A Mom's Surrender with Shelby Hohsfield · She Speaks Life - Christian Women, Strengthen Your Faith, Bible Study, Grow Spiritually In Christ

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Hi listeners. Welcome to the.
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She speaks live podcast a weekly encouragement where we share our
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God's stories. I'm your host.
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Jamie Elizabeth and I am so glad you are spending time with us
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today to listen. Hi friend, welcome back to she
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speaks life. I am so excited to have
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podcaster of finding faith above Shelby house filled with me.
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She is sharing about her faith journey of praying to God, as a
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little girl, for truth to leaving the Mormon church and
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walking without God tooth in, finding the true love of her
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Savior. Jesus Christ.
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Shelby, I'm so glad you're here. Welcome, thank you so much for
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having me. I really do appreciate it and
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I'm excited to get to share. I am just thrilled to have you
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share on this specific topic about your journey of being
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raised in the Mormon church and having these bad ideas about
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God, and I think there's so many that can relate to your story.
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And I am really delicious. Looking forward to you sharing a
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little back story about yourself and where this whole thing
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started for you, where you're like, okay, something just is
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not right here. Sure.
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So I guess we just start at the beginning.
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So as a, as a little kid, I grew up in a home that I actually was
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mixed Faith. So my dad was Mormon and my mom
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was not, which is not normal. That's kind of a Typical Mormon
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household. My parents got married, pretty
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young. And my dad had been introduced
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to the Mormon church when he was in high school.
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And after my parents got married, and he really was
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wanting to, you know, give some structure to the family.
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He went back to the Mormon church and I think it kind of
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took my mom a little bit by surprise, but she loves family
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and she wanted to make it work. And so she really just decided,
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you know, even even though she went through, I think 7 sets.
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A missionaries or something. She was not going to join the
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Mormon church, but she was going to make this work and snow 40
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years later. They still are married, which is
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crazy, but it did introduce a very interesting environment for
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my sister. And I to grow up in because we
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went to church with my dad and my mom, we knew that my mom was
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not on board, but she wasn't going to fight that either.
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She wanted us to have that stability with my dad as well,
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and but she was not Totally on board.
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So you can you are talking about, you know, praying at
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eight years old. So at eight years old is when
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you're typically baptized in the Mormon church and it's just kind
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of like a rite of passage. It isn't like a decision that
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you make to accept Christ or what not.
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It's it's a eight years old, that's what you do and for me
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because my mom was not a, my dad was I actually had to make a
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decision, which is not an easy thing to do at eight years old.
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And I had to make that decision to either.
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Upset my mom or upset my dad and that's where the prayers really
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began. And so really just questioning
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you know, God is this true, is this true?
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Is this true? And of course he's not going to
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answer crazy questions. I wanted a yes you know just go
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ahead and do it so you can join the club and hang out with
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everybody. Be like everybody else but he
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doesn't answer things like that. And so it was very confusing,
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you know, as a kid kind of growing up in in that.
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But I also think that it was It now that I'm older, I see how
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important and how he works within us from the very
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beginning. Because I think he made me this
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question or for a reason. And it's led me to where I am,
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which is beautiful. Yeah, I mean that's got to be
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hard being torn between the two at such a young age and not
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knowing what to do and finding. Wow, my both, my parents have
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different Faith beliefs and this is You know, awkward for me to
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be torn between the two and then, so you went for the Mormon
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religion, and then you ended up leaving at 18.
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So take us to like, what brought you to that point of wanting to
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just leave that. Well, I think when I did
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officially get baptized, and I know this is kind of crazy.
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I didn't actually know this until a few years ago that
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because I Not baptized at 8:00. I will always and forever be
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considered a convert. I didn't know that, even though
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I grew up going to church every Sunday.
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I'm am considered a convert because I did not get baptized
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at eight. I was 10, which means I had to
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have missionaries and I had to have people come and talk to me
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and make sure that, you know, I actually wanted to do this and
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it was you know, it was difficult with.
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I think both my parents I think this was being the first child,
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it was like a big decision that happen.
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But for me it was like I just wanted to be accepted where I
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was and going to church and not being baptized as a an eight
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nine, ten year old is abnormal and I stood out as somebody who
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was abnormal and I wanted to just be part of it and I really
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was just hungry for God. I can honestly say that I really
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did want to know him and I kept learning About church but I
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wasn't learning who he was or building relationship with him
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and I say that now but going I mean at that age I didn't really
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know what that was but I did I was hungry for truth.
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I remember just sitting there and being like I just want them.
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I want somebody to just tell me the truth of who he is.
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I can't even like picture in my head sitting in a classroom and
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thinking that like I just want to know the truth of who he is.
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And I guess, you know, bringing it up to when I officially left
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when I was about 17 and I was in high school and I had a world
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history class and you know, world history is really just
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like the history of religion because religion dictates so
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much of the world. And I learned for the first time
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that there are other ways of doing this.
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It isn't just either you believe in God this way, or you don't
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believe in God at all. There was there was other things
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and I guess I never really had recognized that that there was
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other ways of understanding who God was in a very different way.
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So it kind of started to open my mind and I started to really
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question a whole lot more again and I kind of had a little bit
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of a rebellious spirit in there too, because I don't feel like I
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had that relationship of God as my Foundation, it was like I had
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all these rules but I didn't have like a relationship with
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him. So I was like, They're just
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rules, so I'm going to break them and and so I really was not
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living like a very Godly life. But I had this this dream and I
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know this is going to sound crazy.
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And sometimes I think when I say this, what does dream, but I it
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was very pivotal for me. Yeah.
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I had this dream that I went to the supermarket and Jesus was
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there and everybody was really excited that Jesus was at
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supermarket. And of course, he was in the
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fruit section, which I don't think I've also, I had No
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concept of why that was important.
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He was in the fruit section and I got to the fruit section and
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I'm like, looking for him and I couldn't find him and then I see
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him off in the distance and I'm like, I think that's him, but I
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don't know if I really know him. And the biggest part about it
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was he didn't know me and that for whatever reason, whether it
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was just a silly dream in my subconscious or really was God
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trying to get to me, I don't know, but I do know that that
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Team had a significant impact on me in the fact that I clearly
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don't know him going to church where I am.
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And so when I was 18 you're supposed to move on to like the
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next thing in church and I graduated high school.
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I went to college and I made the decision, I'm never going back
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and I tried to figure out why, for so long.
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Why was I? So insistent on not doing it
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anymore like it, I think it was a culmination.
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Things but it was like there was not even a question to me
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whether or not, I would find a church in college.
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I wouldn't I was not planning on that and really until even just
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the last few months, did I really like reflecting back on a
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lot of this realize why? In fact I left, which was pretty
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substantial. But yeah, you know, I can relate
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in a way of becoming Coming a Christian as a little girl but
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never cultivating that personal relationship with the Lord until
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way into my late 20s and it's kind of similar to where your
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you're wanting more. You're, you know, you're not
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getting filled up, there's just something like missing, right?
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And you can't quite put your finger on it.
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I was a rebellious teenager and Because I wasn't walking with
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the Lord because I had no idea what it was like to have this
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intimate relationship and it's not until I was seeking and was
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intentional in wanting that. And unfortunately, it was after
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many life crisis that, you know, happened to where I was like,
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oh, you know, God so only one You know what is this whole
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thing that people love to go to these women Bible studies, you
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know what was that all about? Maybe there's something to that
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that I am totally missing out on so I can relate with that and
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seeing how you know, there's people in our life that can make
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Christianity legalistic and have it be about, you know, rules and
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you know and just totally Really miss out on the relationship
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piece of it and so that naturally makes you feel like,
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well that doesn't seem very attractive, you know what I
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mean? Why would I want to live that
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way? And so it's really just, it's so
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important for us to get to know him in that close personal,
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intimate way, so you carried through okay, Mormon you left
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that. So what were the things that?
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Prompted you to leave. Well, I think that the biggest
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thing and like I said, I couldn't identify it at the
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time. I just knew I wasn't going back,
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I just knew that. Yeah and and I think having that
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that class having that weird dream, all the different things
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that kind of just all culminated into.
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It was like I'm not going back but the problem is is when you
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are part of something, I guess that is more legalistic but it's
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all-encompassing. So it's not just what you
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believe. It's how you dress is who you
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talk to, it's what movies you watch, it's how you operate
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through life. I mean, it's all-encompassing.
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So when you make a decision to say, I don't know if I truly
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believe this your brain kind of explodes a little bit.
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Yeah, it is. It's like everything that I knew
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as my Foundation is now I'm just gonna throw that out the window
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and, you know, 85% of people who leave the church actually, leave
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God altogether. Most Atheist or agnostic, which
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I don't even like using those words because I don't know if I
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would have considered myself that, but that's exactly what I
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did. So for about five years in
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college where my Godless years. I just said, I want to deal with
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him. I and for somebody who had been
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so involved in religion, I didn't even want to take a
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religion class in college, like, I didn't I didn't want anybody
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talk to me about it. I didn't want have anything to
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do with him which is so sad, but it's what happened.
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And then when I got married, my husband and I, you know, we
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found out we were pregnant and I could feel my son's soul with
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me. And that was very eye-opening
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because it was like, okay. If I can feel his soul with me,
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that means there has to be a God.
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And that was like a big like moment.
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Well then I'm like, okay, I if there is a God, that means that
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I need to, I'm going to have to teach this little person how to
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walk with Todd. And I have no idea what I'm
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doing myself. Like I have absolutely zero clue
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how to do god with with kids. I didn't have a good example of
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that and, you know, it was my parents fault.
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They tried. But I didn't know what I was
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doing and so I kind of went on a search then, all right, so like,
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how am I going to? How am I going to find the truth
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of who God is? And I was very nervous, and
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everything seemed like a big culture shock.
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And so, I tried a few churches actually podcasting kind of
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started coming out. Then it will, oh, it was You
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know, it was really considered podcasting but I would listen to
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different church sermons and try to just like adjust myself and
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like, get into that. And then I joined a mops group.
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I don't know if you ever heard of mothers of preschoolers, that
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was the first time I was like, ever with other Christian women
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who truly had faith and I was like, there's something
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different, like, I could see it like sitting with them and I
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admit, I was kind of jealous. I'm like, how do they just have
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faith? I don't have this.
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How do I get this? And I would about it and I think
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all the wrong ways, none because I still had never read the
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Bible. I didn't even really open the
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Bible. So I'm like, okay.
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I'm just gonna like download Faith somehow, but that's not
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the way it works. And, and because of that, I
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think I really did end up. I didn't again have any sort of
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footing. So I made a lot of mistakes and
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I didn't find God for a very long time.
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So I mean, from the time I was 18, when I left the church until
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I actually did find God was 20 years.
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And during that time I had bounced around between different
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churches. I said I was Buddhist at one
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point. I was like all into the new age
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and Oprah and Eckhart Tolle and all the stuff, right?
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Because I mean, the world, the world really wants to tell you a
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lot of different things, right? But yeah, I mean, it was just
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confusing confusing time. Well, and the enemy loves to
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confuse us, right? God is not a confusing.
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God, he's a god of order and, you know, he's simple.
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And so when we're kind of bending more towards what the
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world is telling us, then everything starts to get
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confusing, right? Because it's just not coming
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from the Lord and I can see the beauty of God pursuing you, even
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though you had no idea but he was pursuing you to say, you
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know, leave the Mormon Church, you know, and how the Lord sees
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Like the are beginning to our end.
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I mean he sees it all, he's got an aerial view of what we're
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gonna do, choose down the road. And so he, so beautifully saw
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that later down 20 years later, you will finally realize that he
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is your true creator and savior. And so I love that, he's still
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he pursues us even when we don't Even him or are saved yet
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ourselves and he's still you know, can gently steer us
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because he knows what our life is going to be about and all the
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different ways that we will serve them later on down the
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road. Like, you're doing.
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So, that's so cool. And I can relate to when I
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joined that Bible study. Just like you joined mops.
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You had this like innate desire to have what they had.
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And there's just no way of forcing that you know.
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It's it's like you've you've got to do your part and you know
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diving in and getting to know God and we all know that's
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through his word and praying and it just the Lord then just
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offers himself to us, but it's not anything that we can have.
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Somebody else give it to us. I was looking over at one of the
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leaders of the Bible study and she's like praying to the Lord
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and she was like looking And I'm just like oh my gosh, she's
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praying to him as if she can just totally see him.
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How amazing is that like that is like how close of a relationship
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can you get? And I'm like, I want that.
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I just remember saying that to myself.
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So, okay, so I have to back you up a little bit.
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So, what did you mean by feeling your son's soul?
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I can't. I guess maybe fully describe it
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in. The fact that I just knew that
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it was life from. From that, it wasn't just
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science. You know, was he was true life
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with me, and I don't know if you felt this way, but like or other
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moms feel this way. But like, I feel like being
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pregnant. I was never alone, like, I truly
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had him with me, which was so cool and my daughter the same
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way, but it did, you know, bring a certain level of
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responsibility that then I had to kind of try to figure out and
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really it was Mike It's who ended up leading me to him, even
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yours down the road. Is why I came to him.
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So yeah, yeah, that's similar to my life.
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It was one of those where you're like, oh, you're no longer
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living like for yourself. Like you've got these kids and
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you know the truth, you know that God is who he is and you
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want them to grow and that well you got to get your stuff
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together, you know as a mom. And so it was my kids inspiring
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me because I wanted to be the best mom.
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I could possibly be but I knew I couldn't do that on my own.
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I had to do that through knowing the Lord relying on his strength
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to you know help me Mom and so very similar path there.
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Okay. So then how did you really just
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seek them out and just full-blown?
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Just be like I'm all for Jesus. Well, I'd love to say that it
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just like came naturally and all these, but no, it was, it was
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hard. It was really hard and it came I
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think because to growing up in a, in a legalistic religion that
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everything was Works based so you, they say there's Grace, but
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really Grace. Only gets you to the lowest
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level of heaven. Really?
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Then it's works that bring you passed that.
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So, we're this in the Mormon. Yeah, religious everything is so
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much on works. And how Presenting yourself to
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the world and in earning God's favor, and becoming worthy
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because of what you do. And even though I had left the
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church, I kept so much crazy mindset stuff with me and the
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nurse with me years and years down the road.
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So as I was going through this whole journey over 20 years,
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that works based mentality was 100% there.
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Like I was the one responsible in the thing about it is is
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that's what the world says. To that's what the Indians
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completely what the world says. I mean, a big thing is about
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your enough but your enough because you do this in your
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capable and you have this thing within you that makes you
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special and you just have to find it and why aren't you
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finding it? Because everybody has this and
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this whole works based thing that I feel like in self-help is
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so prevalent. That is so damaging because all
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it ends up making you feel like is if everybody says that I can
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do it, all, why am I not being able to do it all?
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And I feel like failure and that's literally how I operate
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it. I was always just striving for
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the next thing always for the next thing.
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Always and not putting anything in perspective in a god
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perspective. But just in a doing the next
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thing, doing the next thing and because of because of that, it
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kept me really busy and unfocused.
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I think on my kids and my kids then we're getting older and
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spending a lot more time on the internet because Mom was off
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doing all the things issues. Going to accomplish, right?
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And here I have these these young kids who then spend all
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this time on the internet. And if you don't give kids a
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foundation, I think a lot of people are afraid of doing too
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much God with their kids, like shoving it down their throat.
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I was afraid of this because that's kind of what I felt like
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I had had so in I didn't do anything, I didn't give them
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that Foundation. I gave them nothing and if you
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don't give kids a foundation, they're going to go seek and try
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to find other ways to fill up that hole.
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That's that Sighs. Hold it only he can fill right.
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So what ended up happening was the internet.
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Basically told my daughter, every terrible thing there
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possibly could be about herself at time of adolescence, which is
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huge for a young girl when they're struggling, so much
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anyways. And they just told her so much
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bad stuff and I didn't even know this was going on.
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I was just kind of oblivious to this and at like I don't know, I
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think it was like almost 12 Walk at night or something.
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She texts me, which was actually kind of funny.
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My daughter texted me from the other room.
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And told me all of these issues that she was going through, and
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it was like, it was like, God, like dropped sack of something,
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over the top of my head. Like, I've been trying to tell
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you how come you have been listening.
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Now, here you go, right? And, you know, it wasn't
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intentional that way, but it was like this Moment of clarity that
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was like, wow. Shelby.
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This there is so much here there's so much here that that
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is happening right now and it was like it all suddenly made
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sense in a terrible way. But I guess I mean I just at
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that moment this this is my big turnaround moment is at 2:30 in
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the morning. I realized there was nothing
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that I was going to be able to do even though all this time I
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had been what do I need to do? What do I need to be doing?
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How do I become worthy? How do I do all this?
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There was literally nothing that I was going to be able to do to
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help the situation and that's when I discovered what true
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surrender was. I had never really understood
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what people said when they meant, when they said that that
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Lee surrendered their life to God.
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But at that moment at 2:30 in the Morning.
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I prayed to God. Like I had never prayed before.
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I don't think I'd ever actually prayed to him for real, but I
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prayed to him and I literally just said I can't do this.
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I don't know how to do this. I can't figure this out.
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I recognize there is no way that I ever could.
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I need your help because I know you can help and I and I don't
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even know where that came from. I just it was like, I think
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Think because innately we all know our creator it's just maybe
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we put up a bunch of walls and I had put up so many walls and and
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I met him I feel like I truly met him that night like he was
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with me and I felt peace. Like I had never known despite
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the fact I was going through the hardest time of my entire life
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at that moment and I feel like he told me it's not going to be
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easy, but it's going to be okay. And I just clung to that because
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he was right once that year after that was so hard, it was
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so hard, but everything that I did I put in the perspective of
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what does he want me to do here, not what I want to do, how am I
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going to control this? But what does he want me to do?
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And it completely changed my life.
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My kid's life, my marriage, my home, my business, everything
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Everything changed, everything changed overnight, myself
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included. I mean, huge lie.
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My truly transformed. That's what they talk about.
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Truly transformed. So it was beautiful, but hard.
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Yeah, yeah, I mean, and most of those times they're painful, you
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know, and the surrender of, you know, holding up that white
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flag. I mean we've all been there but
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on the other side is healing and healing isn't Comfy, you know,
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healing can be painful as we go through it and I just love that
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beautiful story of just going. Okay, Lord, I'm I'm done doing,
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we have all been there and I think especially with some of us
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women, who Bend more towards that.
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Like I know I'm a doer and I feel good and filled up when I
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do things, you know and I know I had a moment where I had a back
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it up and just be with God and not do for him necessarily and
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and just stop and pause and just take a little bit of a break
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because the doing was taking over The Becoming and that's
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what God wants us is the becoming and that's what he
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Delights in and it's not what, you know, we Necessarily do for
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him, these accomplishments these you know, ways of doing this and
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that and it's just becoming is growing and our character coming
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closer to him and knowing what it is to be christ-like and
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really focusing on that. And we really have to start at
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that surrender point and there's going to be all that, you know,
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Stuff that needs to get cleared out before it gets better.
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And I love how you're just saying that, that was the
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Catalyst to having a better life.
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Yes, it was hard and in the beginning, but then now, your
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life has totally transformed and become beautiful that Ashes to
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Beauty. He gives us, so cool.
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So, where are you at now? I love to just have you kind of
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share like more about what not what you're doing because we're
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talking about not doing but how you're becoming more like him
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through your podcasting? I just I love your title,
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finding faith above and how you're helping others Through
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Your Own Story. What you went through to point
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them to Jesus, to point them to that relationship.
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And getting rid of those, you know bag, God ideas, and those
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other religions, that don't work.
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I love that. You know, you're putting your
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hands and your words to helping others, just come alongside you
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and encouraging them with all biblical insights and everything
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that you talked about on your podcast, it's so cool.
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I mean, you've got wisdom and faith and just all the things
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that we need to. Learn about and growing and
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therefore get filled up and then we're able to pour that out onto
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others and serve them in that. So I love your mission I love
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your ministry. So I just want you to just share
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more about what's going on in your life today and your kids
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and your marriage and all that. Sure yes.
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Oh he's so good. I mean he's just so good how he
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works. And like I said, it's It's a
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journey. And from the beginning, he was
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he was working on me, you know, he talks, he talks about us
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being like clay, right? He molds us and shapes us and
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all the different pieces of my life and I think you know, when
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I had had my moment, another thing that I feel like God told
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me and this is just crazy but he told me to call my friend
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Vanessa and I say friend, she's one of my absolute best friends
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now and we were friends as kids, but I had not talked to her in
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20 years so where this came from I mean, it could have only come
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from God, but he, he told me to call Vanessa.
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And so I called her and she has one of the strongest Christian
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women, I have ever known. I mean, she is just, she has
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such a relationship with him and she was the exact person I
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needed to talk to and he really spoke.
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I think through her and helping me on this journey and she did a
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little bible study with me and I just drove into his word because
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I think when you fully trust him, when you say, I'm giving my
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My life to you and you fully trust him.
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Reading the Bible is a completely different thing.
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And so then it brings me to Matthew and it talks all about
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the fruit and Jesus. Not knowing you, if you are not
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going in the right direction, I'm like wait a second.
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That was from 20 years ago, he was speaking to me.
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I mean, like it's just so crazy but and I feel like he's
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constantly speaking to me through his word and I think
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that has been the biggest thing that has changed.
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My life is really diving into Ward and so for my podcast,
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finding faith above above, I didn't know where that came from
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for a long time, but James and the wisdom from above that is
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that is worth above comes from took me a little while to find
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that one. I feel like it's all these
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little, like I said, love bread crumbs that he sprinkles through
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my life and just beautiful ways. But with finding faith above, I
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really try my focus in helping women is to allow them who are
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new Believers in Christ to have a Place where they can learn
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some of those very basic Christian beliefs, because it's
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very awkward at 40 years old or however, old as an adult.
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To not know, some of these very basic things that people you're
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sitting right next to have known forever and you'll say something
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that's maybe from your past religion or what not.
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And everybody looks at you like what where did that come from?
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And yeah. So kind of getting over some of
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those old beliefs and introducing truth, like the real
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Truth of who he is so that you can build that relationship in a
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place where it's not awkward that you're in good company,
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with other women who are comfortable there too.
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And then, as new Believers always are, you know, how do we,
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how do we then live in faith? Like not just the exciting part
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of coming to him, but how do we maintain that?
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And how do we bring that into all aspects of our life and how
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do we continue to trust him? And then how do we use our
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spiritual and creative gifts to give it back?
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Back, how do we bring that? How do we bring that in doing?
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You know, the Great Commission the last thing that Jesus told
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us to do, go ahead and make disciples of all Nations.
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Like how do we do that, using what he's given us?
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And so you know, I am an artist and I love to write and so those
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are some of my gifts and I try to bring that and I try to
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encourage other women to, then do the same thing like how can
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not through doing but through through using What he's given
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us. So it's a different perspective.
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It's a change in like our mind shift because we're going from
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place where we're trying to earn his Worth to instead following
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him and loving him, but using things to still do, we're still
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doing things. We're doing great things.
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But where is it coming from? It's not we're not doing it
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because we're trying to earn anything.
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We're doing it at a out of like an outpouring of his love in us
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because of the Trent this transformation that's happened.
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And so with my pocket, So I really just try to take people
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on this journey, like the journey from the beginning, all
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the way through your whole life and, and I love it.
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My favorite thing I've ever done.
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I love it so good and you're so good at it, too.
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You just have that little podcast voice, you know.
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But, yeah. I mean it.
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I love how you just described that, you know, it's out of our
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heart posture of just taking in God's creativity and you and
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doing it through through you. And but the source is coming
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from him and not because you're trying to earn anything.
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I love that. So cool.
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All right, I love to have the guests, just share a brief take
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away as we conclude this episode.
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All right, so I'm going to read a verse really quick because I
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think that all good inspiration and just guide for our life
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comes from his word. So, Philippians 2:13 for it is
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God who works in you to Will and to act in order to fulfill his
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good purpose and if I could give anybody any advice, it's just
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get into his word because people always ask like how does he
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speak to you? How do you hear him?
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How do you follow him? You follow him through his word.
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It's literally called his word for a reason.
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That's how yeah. Seeks to us and then having that
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time to also speak speak with him as well.
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So it's a two-way street, you know, we speak to him through
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our prayers and just like you Talking about your friends.
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You know who she was praying and she's looking up at it.
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God is she was doing it, you know, having that time to just
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lay it all on him because he can take it unlike anybody else
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who's world and and then having an open heart to be able to hear
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what he has to say back through his word.
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Mmm, so good. I know I always say, have a
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dialogue, it's not a monologue. It's a dialogue with God.
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God and your prayer life. And, and then hearing his voice.
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I mean, that was one thing I was seeking like crazy, I really,
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and, and reading his word and then just starting to get
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familiar with the and I call it the heart ears, you know, like,
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I just get it right there in my heart, and I'm like, oh, that's
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have familiar, you know, voice. You know, but it's not audible
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but I just I'm Elena in here and it's just one of those
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incredible gifts that the Lord just gives us that he wants to
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speak to us. We just have to give them the
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time to sit still and want it and just sit there, no matter
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how long it takes, but just getting to know that familiar
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voice and it goes back to that scripture of him, being a
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shepherd and the Sheep are familiar with their Shepherd's
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voice. And and it's just continuously
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doing that and coming to him and being consistent and wanting
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that as your daily bread, right? They call it, you know, daily
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bread for a reason. It's your, it's your daily
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nourishment. And so, thank you, Shelby, for
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sharing your story. And I know so many of us are
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encouraged by it and where can people connect with you?
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Sure. So, finding faith above.com is
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probably the easiest Place. That's my little corner of the
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internet, but then, you know, on podcast and everything is
36:47
finding faith above and that's, you know, and all the different
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social channels, as well as podcasting awesome, thanks so
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much. Thank you, thank you so much for
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listening today. I trust that God has encouraged
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you through this message for more information on this
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ministry and to access free downloads.
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Until next time my friends I pray God reveals himself through
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your own life story.