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Episode 51: Is the Injectable Era Over? The Treatments, Technology & Truth About What Actually Works with ON Skincare · Pretty In Pink Again

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  I'm Christina and I'm t And this is the Pretty and Pink Again podcast where motherhood meets rediscovery.
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  Today's guest is somebody who has access to some of the most advanced skincare technology, treatments, and information in the industry.
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  Olga is a nurse skincare expert and founder of Owen Skincare and somebody who has built her practice on truly bespoke, highly customized treatments.
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  She has the best of the best technology, and she works with women every single day helping them look refreshed, natural, and confident.
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  And what we love most is that her approach isn't about trends, it's about what actually works.
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  Welcome, Olga.
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  Hello.
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  Thank you so much for having me.
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  Thank you for being here with us today.
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  Thank you so much, studio.
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  Finally, we have been wanting for having happy.
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  What's an honor again?
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  What an yes.
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  We're just this beautiful, glowing face here this morning.
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  Thank you.
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  I know so when I come to see you, I often find myself talking with you the entire treatment.
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  And I know you're like, no, we're, we shouldn't talk.
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  This is your time to relax.
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  'cause I know there's like a method to your madness, how you're supposed to get people into relax their nervous system and get into this good state so everything works.
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  Am always asking, what are you doing next?
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  What's next?
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  What does this do?
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  Because I'm so curious because she has all of curious, she's in the know, right.
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  You are in the know, you know everything.
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  I know.
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  It's very true.
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  Usually I, I catch myself during treatments.
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  People wanna catch up and they wanna share some personal stories and I do too.
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  But truly results are different when you go into that very rested state.
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  And I do my magic in between, so I customize my treatments, but you have to almost be asleep.
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  I always tell my customers that if you fall asleep, it's a compliment to me.
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  And the results are so much more intensified.
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  When you actually disconnect from your daily routine, from your struggles, from your motherhood problems, and then we catch up after.
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  Right.
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  I always have the time ready to catch up afterwards.
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  Okay.
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  I need to make sure that I have the time afterwards Yeah.
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  To catch up because I'm always trying to do three things at once and I guess I'm not getting the best results.
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  And you love the, you love the express well facial.
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  I go in there and I'm like, what could we do for two hours?
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  I'm here to relax, but I have a little secret.
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  I always book the two hours.
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  Even if you book yourself a 45 minutes, me, I do book my two hours for you to catch up.
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  I love that because it really is not a rushed environment at all.
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  And we wanna go into your background.
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  I know your background is impressive, so I remember when we were talking like how this whole started, you were saying that you were like an exhausted mother and you were looking for something and you couldn't find it, so you created it.
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  Very true.
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  So talk to us a little bit about that.
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  Very true.
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  Four hil, four children.
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  I remember myself being in postpartum for very long portion of my life and I, I've been going through postpartum blues and from my second child I was an exhausted nurse.
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  Worked a lot, multiple shifts, and I was looking for treatment that can actually.
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  Sense me and my exhaustion and I wanted to improve my skin quality.
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  I wasn't ready to go to a day spa and have oils on my skin.
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  I wanted a really good treatment that's medical grade, but also someone that knows what to do with their hands and bring me in that deep state so I can go home, I can be a better mom, I can be a better professional, and.
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  I went far and along drove all budgets, treatments of all kinds, and I couldn't find until one day I told myself I will build something that can see through and yes, still deliver a medical grade treatment and improve someone's skin, but also they can go home and just be a better person.
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  I feel like you said that so well because you are like the perfect blend of that.
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  And we have both done facials, we've both done treatments with you so we can vouch for this.
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  Thank you.
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  I totally agree.
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  And we've done them to her point far and wide.
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  Yes.
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  And I feel like to your point you really were getting either or right?
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  Like you were going somewhere to relax.
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  Yes.
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  But it's usually those are not the best facials that actually do something for you.
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  Right.
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  Or you go to a more medical route.
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  Right.
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  But that is not a hint of relaxing, you know?
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  So this is, it's a device.
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  Yes, you blended the two.
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  Yes.
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  It's a medical smell and you do, and the, and the price point of those treatments is very high.
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  And it's usually quick, quick 50 minutes treatment.
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  They have to go, they have a full schedule.
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  And yes, you do see improvement in your skin, but then you go home.
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  I'm like, what did I do?
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  I completely believe that those worlds can be combined.
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  Yes.
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  I think especially for moms too.
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  And I feel like that is why you're like, perfect for this because you're a mother, you know.
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  Like you said, you were looking for something like this because you wanted to go and relax, but then we're also exhausted.
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  We also need a little something going on in our skin to make us look rested.
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  It really is the perfect blend of that.
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  Yeah.
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  So before we get into Owen Skincare, you are also our former Mrs.
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  Connecticut.
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  Talk to us a little bit about the pageant world.
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  Yes, just a bit.
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  Last year out of nowhere, me and my husband just decided to, uh, join the pageantry.
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  We were going through a difficult, stage in our life.
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  One of, one of our family member was ill, so we decided let's bring some joy.
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  Signed up for the pageantry unprepared, but I had the same mission.
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  I met with the judges and I just shared what I truly see..
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  Bringing a change in my community and they aligned and they see so through me and I'm thankful for that today.
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  It's an experience of Lifetime.
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  I know that's once a lifetime for me.
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  Yeah.
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  My children were very excited.
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  My daughter, we had to go to Las Vegas.
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  But just connecting with other women from other states, it's just a memory of lifetime.
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  What were some commonalities that you found between the other misses from the other states?
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  Very involved and for the difference between misses and miss.
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  These are women, mature women, and they know what they do.
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  And they have a mission.
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  They have a career, they have children.
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  I have met all their children in the hotel.
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  And just family values and family love brings them to stage.
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  A lot of life experience.
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  Is what I feel like those are always the best stories, right?
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  Yes.
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  And where you learn the most is through Yes.
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  Actual lived experience.
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  Yes, absolutely.
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  And the feeling of just, I do have that pink again.
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  I do have the spark again.
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  Yeah.
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  And here I am on the stage.
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  I have to put myself together.
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  I can speak about my mission, I can share, I can put two clothes together.
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  It's important.
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  And for your children, as an example, again, I feel that you have to just understand.
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  It doesn't take the whole portion of your life.
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  The pageantry can just be delusional in many cases, but as a one-time experience, it's worth it for every woman.
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  I love that your kids got to experience that with you and see you Yes.
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  Through that.
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  And it was a positive, you know?
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  Yeah, I agree.
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  That's probably so impactful.
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  And they probably won't even realize the impact'cause they're still little, but I bet you that is just gonna be both huge girls and boys.
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  Yeah.
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  I love that.
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  What was your mission that you shared through that platform?
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  Skincare and motherhood skin.
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  You can find skincare and motherhood.
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  Yes, you can find yourself in motherhood through a simple, genuine skincare again.
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  Okay, so then let's talk about that.
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  Let's get into that.
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  Let's get right into that.
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  That's what everybody wants to hear.
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  All right.
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  So we wanna talk to you about something that I think is like weighing on me now.
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  I'm almost 40.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Same with Christina.
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  And we have mature skin and we have, you know, it's just part of life, you know, it's not good.
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  It's not bad.
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  I still think my skin is good, but it's mature.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Okay.
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  Something that comes with mature skin is, years of sun exposure.
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  So talk to us a little bit about that.
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  Like what is something that ages our skin the most?
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  Yes.
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  I speak about that on a daily with women, and I feel that first and foremost, women need to accept the aging process.
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  Yeah.
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  It's okay and it's normal and we want to age and we wanna be there.
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  But few factors that actually play a huge difference is.
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  Basic sleep.
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  We need sleep.
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  High quality sleep, movement and movement, that's part of your daily routine movement that doesn't feel heavy and doesn't take too much of your day.
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  So walks any form of movement.
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  And then human connection, just circle connecting with people and just doing well to others.
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  And simple skincare routine.
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  That's time tested.
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  That's not new.
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  It's not trendy.
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  Something that our great, great parents have experienced.
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  And so improvements and it comes to ingredients, few devices, and that's all.
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  Are you kind of like a simpler is better approach?
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  Like less is more.
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  Less is more is more.
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  Absolutely.
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  Yeah.
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  Less is more.
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  Few good ingredients, few devices here and there, and routine that just goes well with your timing.
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  Do you feel like I, this is something that I've experienced.
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  Every like five-ish years.
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  I feel like I need to kind of revamp my skincare routine.
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  I'm very much into using the same products and creating that system.
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  Right.
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  So that it's kind of like, okay, I know when my skin needs this.
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  Yes.
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  And I kind of listen to it.
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  But then I'm in this right now where I feel like five years ago I was also in this and I have to switch up my products and kind of switch up my approach.
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  'Cause I feel like things just sit on my skin and when I get to that point I'm like, okay, something's not working.
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  It's not jiving anymore.
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  And I am there now.
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  So I did wanna talk to you about that.
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  Is that normal to kind of have to switch it up?
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  Is it maybe'cause of the aging process?
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  So we do not even once in a year, once in a five year increment.
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  Seasonally we need to change ingredients just using few ingredients that truly make the difference from my professional experience, it's.
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  Really good acid formulas.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Uh, they bring an instant result and instant gratification compared to long-term use of retinoids.
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  Okay.
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  For nighttime.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  To ingredients that play a huge role.
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  And then we play with serums.
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  Serums are the highly concentrated active ingredients that bring the highest amount of change.
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  What is an example of an acid?
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  Lactic acid.
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  Okay.
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  Lovely.
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  Mandelic.
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  Glycolic.
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  Salicylic.
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  Okay.
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  Sometimes it's one acid, sometimes a combination of multiple acids depending on the skin, is that something that you want to switch up depending on what your skin needs?
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  Yes.
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  Is that something that you can have like a little mm-hmm.
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  Kind of library and then say, oh, my skin feels very clogged right now, I'm reaching for this.
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  Yes.
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  Okay.
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  Absolutely.
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  So for example, salicylic acid, for people that have little more cement production, we tend to go towards sali silicon, summertime, and then lactic, very gentle, very wonderful for mature skin and combination of lactic mandelic and glycolic.
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  This is what usually people like a different, a different dosage.
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  Okay.
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  What was the acid that you gave me in the enzymes?
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  Oh, that was an enzyme.
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  It's an acid also, but it's an powder form that get emulsified and you can just rub it specifically on the T-zone.
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  People don't have blackheads anymore, and we, speaking of blackheads, I don't believe in extractions.
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  I extract one when there is a need, but I don't extract everyone because when we use the right acidic formula.
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  There is no blackhead.
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  There's no need of extractions at all.
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  What was the name of that enzyme.
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  Powder.
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  Powder.
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  Yes.
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  From a tear.
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  A tear is lovely.
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  A company that's developed in Zurich, Switzerland and made in Germany.
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  Very.
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  Alright, so acid is like number one.
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  Number one.
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  For daytime.
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  For daytime, I wouldn't combine acid with a retinoid.
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  People quite often do the same mistake.
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  So acid would be morning time and then retinoids.
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  Any form of retinoids would be nighttime.
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  Nighttime.
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  On the same day.
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  On the same day.
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  And all year round.
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  All year round.
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  All year round.
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  Different retinoids, depending on the season and depending How your skin feels, and that instant moment in time, we would customize retinoids.
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  So some people are already accustomed to the medical version of isotretinoin or, threat.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Everyone knows it as threat.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  It's very strong.
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  It's almost a medicine.
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  So people like alternatives and I help them find the best alternative.
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  What is one that you are constantly reaching for, for your clients?
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  Retinol.
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  A retinol.
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  Okay.
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  12 derivatives of retinoid.
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  Okay.
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  Is there like a certain brand of retinol that you like to use?
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  Yes, I like multiple.
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  So a cure is one of the re a same thing.
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  That one from Switzer, Switzerland.
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  It's one of them.
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  They have won multiple awards in Europe.
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  It's very gentle.
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  People love it.
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  And Enron environ a wonderful company.
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  It's a vitamin A based company.
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  So they have large formulas of all forms of vitamin A and people, once they start, they fell in love.
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  They never feel dry and never feel f flaky.
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  They never feel that their barrier is in impaired.
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  So is that the envir vitamin A?
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  Okay.
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  The sequence.
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  Okay.
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  So it's a step up system.
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  We start slow and we build tolerance.
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  So then talk to us about some serums.
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  'cause is that the next kinda, I wanna kind of go Yeah.
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  We went from morning to night.
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  Yes.
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  What's in between?
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  Yep.
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  Yes.
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  So, quite often I have that, that questions people ask me if I purchase one product, what would that be?
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  Or if I have a budget, what would that be?
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  Um, my best purchase, it's serums again, it's a highly concentrated, active ingredient mm-hmm.
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  That we customize depending, most of the serums.
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  But now everyone loves peptides.
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  Anti-aging serums, wave growth factors.
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  Vitamin C serums for daytime.
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  I personally believe it's an overhyped ingredient, but it's one of the most studied ingredients in the world of dermatology.
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  So vitamin C would be in the morning and just customizing serums for eye, serums for face, serums for neck.
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  And then how about moisturizer?
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  Moisturizers are wonderful.
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  They are occlusive, so they would seal everything in place.
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  Right.
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  Is there anything in between that, so it's, you wanna do your acids then your serums, right?
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  Then your moisturizer?
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  Or is there something in between?
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  Yeah, so the perfect morning routine would be a milky cleanser.
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  Okay.
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  A very gentle, really liquidating cleanser.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Would be an acid would be a good serum or combo of serums, a moisturizer and a sunscreen that you love.
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  Okay.
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  And another question that I receive quite often is.
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  Good sunscreen.
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  A good sunscreen.
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  It's a sunscreen that you actually will fell in love and are committed to using.
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  It can be medical grade, it can be a drugstore, it's just sunscreen.
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  You do need to protect your skin from the sun, along with really good, nice hairs.
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  And just being conscious and just being, just don't abuse yourself under the sun.
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  And then a good nitro routine would be an enzyme cleanser would be a good serum.
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  We'll skip the acids and it'll be retinoid with a really good occlusive moisturizer on.
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  Okay.
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  To go on the top, like you said, it seals it all in.
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  I like to use Aquaphor on my face at nighttime.
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  I look like a crazy person at nighttime.
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  Maybe like, maybe ski my collar base.
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  If someone with a large SIBO production would be too, it would be like clogging too heavy.
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  Clogging.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm not the expert, I'm just sharing what I'm doing.
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  It's okay.
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  Don't do what I do as long as do what Olga tells you to do.
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  It's okay.
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  That is very, very helpful.
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  So you give us this like luxury experience.
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  These are European techniques.
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  Talk, talk to us about this.
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  Oh, it's a mixture.
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  It's a mixture of techniques and, there's no protocol that will, uh, deliver the best results as a one standalone protocol.
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  And I find mixing them just delivers by just knowing which protocol would benefit which person and which season in life would make, makes the biggest difference.
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  So European techniques, it's lots of manual work.
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  So we always start with manual work, so bringing that person into deep restorative calm state.
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  We work half, so we work half face with mask.
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  We work the other half of the face with mask, so we prepare the skin for the treatment itself.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Quite often after an hour of.
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  F the facial treatment.
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  I, I tell the person only now we move into the treatment stage and they say, oh.
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  What was it before we were preparing you for the treatment stage?
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  You do so much prep and if, if anybody has not experienced one of Olga's facials, it's very labor intensive on you.
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  It's very labor intensive and it really feels almost like a deep tissue massage for your face.
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  It does.
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  That's like the, that's the best way I can explain it, where it just feels like you're kind of.
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  In every crevice of the face.
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  Yes.
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  We work with kind of fast muscle.
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  Sometimes it's hard, sometimes it's soft.
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  So it's just it's really like a mix.
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  But it feels like a workout for your face almost.
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  It is.
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  And we start with slow movements.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So lymphatic drainage mm-hmm.
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  That, incorporates tage neck, uh, face and scalp quite often.
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  I just open up the headband and I tell people the, the frontalis muscle, it's a huge muscle.
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  It goes all the way into your scalp.
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  And if I can work with it, the lift is unimaginable.
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  Um, just working as a whole, it's not just the face lymphatic drainage.
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  And then we work half face in the other half of the face.
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  We prep the skin, we mask, and once we remove the mask, we move into devices and active ingredients, serums, and we mix the devices.
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  There is not one device that I would always, it's always a mixture of devices.
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  I don't think I've ever been to you and had the same treatment done.
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  I feel like every time we come, we you always switch it up.
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  True.
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  You're like, well, also it's different times of the year too.
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  Right?
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  Very right.
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  Maybe you can sense that I need something different today.
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  Today we're working on, um, like toning and lifting this area this day.
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  You really need good dehydration.
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  Okay.
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  We're working on your sun spots today.
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  Yes.
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  Like you always do something different every time.
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  Yes.
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  It's not just the same.
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  One device and then you're out.
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  No.
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  And usually people quite often reach out to me and they say, which treatment should I book?
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  It's hard for you to know what will benefit.
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  And it's hard for me to know without seeing your skin, what you'll actually benefit the most.
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  And it's a time-based treatment.
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  If you have the time, will customize it.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  When I drive to work, I don't know which treatments I'm going to pick on today.
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  So I have all the tools ready for my customers and we just customize it from there.
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  And you do offer an express one too?
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  Yes.
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  'cause you gets that one done sometimes where it is just a little bit quick.
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  But I do think that if you're trying to invest in yourself, this the way to go is just to go all in on it.
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  Yes.
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  And get the full, full experience.
• 17:26
  Yes.
• 17:26
  Because I do think it is just so helpful.
• 17:28
  I wanna talk about injectables because that is such a hot topic.
• 17:33
  And used to do that.
• 17:34
  Yes.
• 17:34
  So you can speak to both sides of it.
• 17:36
  Do you, you still offer them?
• 17:38
  No, I don't at this point.
• 17:39
  No.
• 17:39
  I used to And um.
• 17:42
  13 years in, in my nursing career, I was exposed to medical dermatology, invasive and noninvasive medical aesthetics, injectables and laser devices.
• 17:50
  Mm-hmm.
• 17:50
  They do each injectable and each device has, its own, need.
• 17:54
  So for example, injectables are there to paralyze a muscle and the muscle doesn't move any longer, therefore, doesn't cause a crease and a wrinkle.
• 18:01
  However, skincare altogether is the foundation.
• 18:05
  So injectables and good skincare goes hand in hand.
• 18:09
  Right.
• 18:09
  I know that you're not anti injectables.
• 18:11
  No, I'm not.
• 18:12
  Right.
• 18:12
  What you have told me is just that you can get a lot more kind of going the other way, right?
• 18:17
  Like if you're can can postpone.
• 18:18
  You can postpone.
• 18:19
  Yes.
• 18:19
  Right?
• 18:19
  Sure.
• 18:20
  You can postpone and I quite often, or maybe even compliment.
• 18:23
  Even compliment and I always tell people, I'll guide you.
• 18:26
  I will genuinely guide you on devices and injectables when the need is.
• 18:30
  Sometimes I work on the frontalis and I see the muscle just doesn't stop moving.
• 18:35
  It's, it's a genetic movement and I'm there pressing and I would just tell the person, you need to inject it.
• 18:40
  It's over functioning.
• 18:42
  So what I'm finding, so we're, I'm almost 40, I've been getting Botox for about a decade at this point.
• 18:49
  Obviously I know some of it's just aging.
• 18:52
  But I used to find that I could do Botox like once a year, and then I would start to have some movement.
• 18:59
  And now I'm finding that I feel like I can't even make it like two months before it feels like it's not working or I feel like it's something that I have to constantly keep up with and it's kind of going against what I wanna do with my body.
• 19:12
  So talk to us about that.
• 19:15
  Is that that too, or are you seeing that with some of your clients that are around our same age?
• 19:19
  I see.
• 19:20
  Yes.
• 19:20
  I see that a lot.
• 19:21
  People get addicted and they, and sometimes the neurotoxin doesn't perform as well.
• 19:25
  Yeah.
• 19:25
  As it used to be.
• 19:27
  They like to switch up the neurotoxin, or I quite often just.
• 19:31
  Genuinely recommend to go for facial treatments and use other devices.
• 19:35
  I like the Microcurrent.
• 19:37
  Mm-hmm.
• 19:37
  Does wonderful work.
• 19:38
  Is that the one that we did with the gloves?
• 19:40
  I posted this on my Instagram, I think I was like too nervous the first time when you did it.
• 19:44
  That's okay.
• 19:44
  Because I didn't know, like I thought I was getting shocked and Olga, no sweetie, you're not like it's, you're okay.
• 19:51
  And it was like, I feel like I'm getting shocked.
• 19:54
  She was like, just, she's like, stop moving.
• 19:58
  I'm going to make it so your forehead won't move for three months.
• 20:01
  That's amazing.
• 20:02
  But she put on these gloves and she connected it to the microcurrent and then she like worked the muscles and I truly could not move my forehead.
• 20:12
  For weeks.
• 20:13
  That's wild.
• 20:14
  And I did, I have Botox in here, but even with Botox, there's movement because I do like some movement.
• 20:19
  So yes, I do too.
• 20:20
  Cheryl does my Botox, so I guess now it's Dysport.
• 20:23
  She does it.
• 20:23
  Very light.
• 20:24
  Yep.
• 20:24
  Mm-hmm.
• 20:25
  Um, but this.
• 20:26
  Was such a nice compliment to that.
• 20:29
  And even sometimes, so let's say the muscle is paralyzed for a long period of time.
• 20:32
  Mm-hmm.
• 20:33
  It's good to go in there and wake them up Right.
• 20:35
  And bring circulation back.
• 20:36
  Oh, interesting.
• 20:37
  Ing and that doesn't interfere with the results.
• 20:40
  But this wonders to the muscle itself because the muscle is made to move.
• 20:43
  So you're giving, you're giving it a little bit of a break.
• 20:45
  Yes.
• 20:45
  Right.
• 20:46
  And kind of like helping it rework itself.
• 20:48
  Right.
• 20:48
  And then, then you can go back and get another injectable at another time.
• 20:51
  Yeah.
• 20:51
  I mean, it doesn't interfere with the timing of the injectable.
• 20:53
  It's there.
• 20:54
  But it does wonders too, the muscle and the health that's underneath our skin.
• 20:57
  That's really interesting.
• 20:58
  Wow.
• 20:59
  What about like facial, any type of like facial contouring?
• 21:02
  'cause you see like a lot of devices out there that'll make like your jaw line.
• 21:07
  Mm-hmm.
• 21:07
  More snatched or like pulled back or like tightening.
• 21:11
  What?
• 21:11
  I would be slightly reserved in terms of energy devices.
• 21:14
  Mm.
• 21:14
  They have caused so much damage.
• 21:16
  The jaw line and the double chin.
• 21:18
  Maybe it's okay risking, but those energy devices tend to melt, simply say.
• 21:23
  Melt facial fat.
• 21:25
  Mm.
• 21:25
  And facial fat is gold.
• 21:26
  We don't want to melt our apples of the chicks.
• 21:30
  We don't wanna melt under eye area because it's irreversible and there is no filler that can actually mimic our natural facial fat.
• 21:37
  Wow.
• 21:38
  Okay.
• 21:38
  I would be cautious.
• 21:39
  That's very, very good to know.
• 21:40
  Yes, I would be cautious.
• 21:41
  I would do my research.
• 21:42
  The jawline.
• 21:43
  It's okay.
• 21:43
  Even if we mo lose a little bit of fat, that's fine.
• 21:46
  But not temples and eye area.
• 21:48
  Okay.
• 21:48
  So what about then the opposite of that?
• 21:51
  What would be a treatment that would mimic what like filler would look like?
• 21:56
  Anything like with collagen, plump, right.
• 21:58
  That that would plump, yes.
• 21:59
  So simply lifting and sculpting and working with fascia to release tension by hand.
• 22:04
  Mm-hmm.
• 22:04
  Mm-hmm.
• 22:04
  And then microneedling gold, old classic microneedling.
• 22:08
  I cannot speak enough about it.
• 22:10
  It's an again.
• 22:10
  Time tested.
• 22:11
  Old treatment.
• 22:12
  I've never tried.
• 22:12
  I've never done that before.
• 22:13
  Have you?
• 22:14
  Yeah.
• 22:14
  'cause I've done PRP and that, so that's, it does work together with plasma.
• 22:18
  So talk to us about microneedling and then book me for it.
• 22:21
  Yes, for sure.
• 22:21
  For tomorrow, microneedling is one of the most time tested old classic treatment that works.
• 22:27
  So it's micro injuries.
• 22:28
  We customize the injury to your skin and through healing your skin will create its own collagen and become thicker over time.
• 22:35
  It's the golden standard for face, neck, for the area above the lip for eye area.
• 22:40
  From my per professional experience, because all these people can see my eye area feels creep and yeah.
• 22:45
  And it's not much you can do other than a good retinoid, a good serum, and that's all.
• 22:50
  And microneedling.
• 22:51
  So I customize the depth of the needle penetration and we can make it.
• 22:56
  Deeper, we can make it very light.
• 22:58
  Wonderful.
• 22:58
  It's only one day of downtime.
• 22:59
  It's very doable.
• 23:00
  People love it.
• 23:01
  Do you feel like the plasma, the PRP is necessary component of that?
• 23:05
  Or do you think it's just worthwhile to just do micro needle?
• 23:07
  That's when you take the blood.
• 23:09
  That's when you take the blood.
• 23:10
  Mm-hmm.
• 23:10
  We spin the blood and then we extract the plasma.
• 23:13
  Right.
• 23:13
  It does help with healing.
• 23:14
  With healing micro.
• 23:16
  And you do that too?
• 23:16
  I don't, because from my professional experience healing, it's not too bad.
• 23:20
  Okay.
• 23:20
  It doesn't enhance results.
• 23:22
  But healing overall is 24 hours and really good serum goes home with you.
• 23:27
  Very doable.
• 23:28
  Okay.
• 23:28
  So just kind of taking care of yourself.
• 23:29
  Mm-hmm.
• 23:29
  You can kind of gist yourself back on track and you don't need, I, one day of downtime is of too much anyway, so less than 24 hours.
• 23:35
  Okay.
• 23:35
  Now that's very good to know.
• 23:36
  How often can you do that?
• 23:39
  So depending on the depth of the penetration, usually it's free treatment.
• 23:42
  Mm-hmm.
• 23:43
  Per season.
• 23:43
  But I have met people that.
• 23:45
  Do it on a monthly basis, like ongoing.
• 23:46
  Very gently.
• 23:47
  Wow.
• 23:48
  Wonderful.
• 23:48
  I have met people, mature, mature ladies that have wonderful skin and many of them own other spas and sometimes I like to ask them the same questions from everything you've seen.
• 23:59
  Mm-hmm.
• 23:59
  What do you think performs the the most?
• 24:01
  And it's always microneedling.
• 24:03
  Wow.
• 24:03
  Even without serums, and this is something like you said, goes way, way back.
• 24:06
  This is not like new cutting edge technology.
• 24:09
  Not trendy.
• 24:09
  Right.
• 24:10
  This is a tried and true technique, right.
• 24:12
  It's very old, okay, we need to try this.
• 24:15
  Yes.
• 24:15
  I feel that my needling is very close to laser technology does the same thing.
• 24:19
  We cause micro injuries and through the injury he skin heals and just becomes better.
• 24:25
  Yeah.
• 24:25
  And when you're doing like filler injections, you're looking for that like plumper look.
• 24:30
  So if you do this over time, it will build collagen, which will give that to you on it own and it's very naturally I love that.
• 24:36
  You mentioned lasers, and I feel like lasers are another, I don't maybe wanna say trendy, but I feel like there's some of these lasers that the downtime just seems crazy.
• 24:46
  Like, I mean, people are Yes.
• 24:48
  The downtime down for the count for a week.
• 24:50
  Right.
• 24:50
  It right.
• 24:52
  I'm sure not all lasers are created equally either, right?
• 24:55
  That's right.
• 24:55
  I'm sure that's true too.
• 24:56
  Lasers do wonders.
• 24:57
  Mm-hmm.
• 24:58
  Um, so I'll go back to chemical peel.
• 25:00
  Chemical peel.
• 25:01
  Again, it's another old treatment that's time tested.
• 25:04
  Everyone loves it.
• 25:04
  Dermatologist, aesthetician, nurses and chemical peel are light and they're deep and they go on texture and pigment.
• 25:12
  And if chemical pills or series of chemical pills didn't help someone for pigment penetration, this is when we move into lasers.
• 25:21
  This is one I would look into laser.
• 25:22
  Oh, okay.
• 25:23
  I wouldn't do a laser before a really good chemical peel.
• 25:25
  Interesting.
• 25:25
  Okay.
• 25:26
  That's And how often can you do chemical peels?
• 25:29
  Depending if it's a light one, you can do as soon as every two weeks.
• 25:32
  It's a light and gentle exfoliating chemical peel or medium depth peel.
• 25:36
  I would do once a season or some skin types once a year.
• 25:39
  Okay.
• 25:39
  What was the one that you did on me and Christina most recently?
• 25:42
  Yes.
• 25:42
  Was a gentle one.
• 25:43
  Was it more gentle one?
• 25:44
  Yes.
• 25:44
  The medium one makes your skin peel for about seven days.
• 25:47
  Okay.
• 25:48
  Or more.
• 25:49
  Okay.
• 25:49
  Depending on the formula.
• 25:50
  So say that we have to move into lasers.
• 25:52
  Do you offer lasers?
• 25:54
  Not yet, but I'm looking to, okay.
• 25:55
  Gentle, uh, laser facials.
• 25:57
  Mm-hmm.
• 25:58
  Uh, lasers that again, do not take much of your downtime.
• 26:01
  Lasers that go well with your schedule.
• 26:02
  And light lasers, again, working on pigment and texture.
• 26:06
  Similar to microneedling, I just would like to target a little more pigment.
• 26:09
  Mm-hmm.
• 26:10
  That microneedling is not able to.
• 26:11
  And everyone has some form of sun damage.
• 26:13
  So when I think about sun damage, I think like, okay, so you're gonna do a laser and you're gonna have this like beautiful baby skin underneath what?
• 26:24
  It's happened to me before.
• 26:25
  I've done lasers.
• 26:26
  It gets hot out, my face hits the sun.
• 26:29
  Oh, it's back.
• 26:29
  Right.
• 26:29
  And everything is back, but back.
• 26:31
  Way worse.
• 26:32
  So what do you do in that case to prevent that from happening again, please?
• 26:36
  So, SPF would be one of the most important item and then a good exfoliating acid to keep it at bay because your skin is a baby skin, it's raw after the laser, so you need to take extra steps to care for, it's all coming back to just having the most consistent skincare routine It does, which is, is the first thing she wrote here.
• 26:54
  Yes.
• 26:54
  And like, bold put it like bold highlighted, like consistency.
• 26:58
  Yeah.
• 26:59
  Keeping you right, like knowing what works for your skin and then keeping consistent with that, right?
• 27:04
  Yes.
• 27:04
  But I think that's really refreshing to hear because I feel like, especially with social media, I'm sure you see you're in this like aesthetician world, I'm sure your algorithm is flooded with all of the, you know, new and improved types of, devices and treatments and all of that.
• 27:21
  And, and it could feel very overwhelming, especially as you're aging and you don't even know what to look for or what to ask for or what to do.
• 27:28
  Mm-hmm.
• 27:29
  And so I think that this.
• 27:32
  Reframe of keeping things simple, simple.
• 27:34
  And going back to the basics is so refreshing to hear in a world that just feels so overwhelming.
• 27:40
  It's very world overwhelming and the market is oversaturated.
• 27:44
  And I always tell my customers, and I've seen it from my professional standpoint, 80% of success, it's a home, ah, 80% of success happens at home.
• 27:53
  Mm-hmm.
• 27:53
  And 20% is treatments.
• 27:55
  I have met so many wonderful ladies that have very, they're very disciplined and they're strict home care regimens.
• 28:01
  Mm-hmm.
• 28:02
  And they come and the skin is wonderful and they are thinking about the device only out of curiosity.
• 28:08
  Like, don't need many enhance, maybe they don't need the device, but they might wanna try, but their skin is wonderful.
• 28:13
  Wow.
• 28:13
  Mature, mature, mature ladies.
• 28:15
  If you have somebody coming to you, I, like one of your girlfriends or one of your clients is saying, you, I always guide that I have a lower budget.
• 28:23
  I have a drugstore budget.
• 28:24
  Yes.
• 28:24
  Help guide me to find, yes.
• 28:26
  An enzyme, a serum.
• 28:28
  I do.
• 28:28
  Where would, is there anything that you could share with our listeners like that you like off?
• 28:33
  No, this is exactly what happened when my menu was changed.
• 28:37
  That's why I have multiple lines, high and lows, and I pick and choose, not the line, but actual the products.
• 28:43
  Oh, the products from the line that actually are really, really nice.
• 28:46
  And for the same reason, because I've met people of multiple budgets.
• 28:49
  Do we have any brands that you can share that you kind of like, or any products Just a few that yes, are like lower budget.
• 28:57
  Is clinical wonderful environment.
• 29:00
  It's my love.
• 29:00
  It's a very, uh, affordable line that does wonders for skin, face reality for their young skin.
• 29:06
  The V is another line, and then we'll move up if need be.
• 29:10
  What is like the step up?
• 29:11
  What are some lines from like the mid grade, mid?
• 29:14
  There is no mid grade.
• 29:15
  Maybe like mid Mid budget.
• 29:17
  Mid budget.
• 29:18
  Yeah.
• 29:18
  It's always the French line.
• 29:20
  They're the, this is my mother and the foundation of them all.
• 29:23
  So biological a chair and, okay.
• 29:26
  So French lines, German and Swiss.
• 29:29
  I always tell like my customers, if you're looking to stay where you are with your skin, that's fine.
• 29:34
  Laroche Poe will, will do wonders, will maintain, but will not bring a change.
• 29:39
  Okay.
• 29:40
  When it comes to skincare.
• 29:41
  Okay.
• 29:41
  So really these products are, you're looking to change and improve?
• 29:45
  Yes.
• 29:46
  Yeah.
• 29:46
  It won't bring a change.
• 29:47
  What I also love about you is you combine facial treatments with body treatments Yeah.
• 29:52
  With simultaneously, which is incredible, but why is that important to you?
• 29:56
  So most of my treatments are 60 minutes plus, and I've realized that people get tired.
• 30:01
  Their body hurts to stay in the same position for a long time, and I have dreamed and I found a massage therapist that can work from the tippy toes up to your scalp while I do my work and I work on your facial.
• 30:14
  You guys are like dancing around each other kind of, yeah.
• 30:16
  Yeah.
• 30:17
  So we work That's incredible.
• 30:17
  Four hands, we, we call it in four hands.
• 30:20
  It does wonders.
• 30:21
  It's, I think it's one of the most desired gift certificate in my case.
• 30:25
  Mm-hmm.
• 30:25
  People gift it a lot for their mothers, for their daughters wives.
• 30:29
  And then it's just a complete reset.
• 30:31
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• 31:24
  Talk to us about this red carpet ready facial that you do.
• 31:28
  This, what is it?
• 31:30
  Alite and it's one of, it's one of the I tools, Alite facial.
• 31:33
  Oh.
• 31:33
  So it's a tool?
• 31:34
  It's a tool part of a, a part of the red carpet facial every time when I see, um, my lovely customers, I pretend they go to a wedding.
• 31:42
  I pretend she's a bride, so she needs to leave out of that office.
• 31:47
  Beautiful, lifted and glowy and fresh and ionic, salate.
• 31:51
  It's one of the tools I use in combination with the lines with other devices, but it's very pleasant.
• 31:56
  It's oxygenating your skin.
• 31:58
  It's lifting.
• 31:59
  From the gentlest lymphatic, drainage to gentle exfoliation.
• 32:02
  It's a wonderful tool that I have not seen.
• 32:05
  I haven't seen it in the state of Connecticut.
• 32:07
  What does that like add to the.
• 32:09
  Treatment.
• 32:09
  Is it like a long treatment?
• 32:11
  It's the same 60, 90 minutes.
• 32:13
  It's customized.
• 32:14
  Sometimes I would use the whole device, sometimes I use just few functions of the device.
• 32:18
  Few modalities to enhance what hands cannot do.
• 32:22
  I feel like there's just so many beauty, buzzy things and we talked about just the algorithm just being flooded with all the latest and greatest skincare and there's just all of these things floating around.
• 32:35
  I wanna do a rapid fire segment where we ask you some of these things and you can just say it's do they work?
• 32:41
  Okay.
• 32:42
  Yes.
• 32:42
  No.
• 32:43
  Maybe, and you can give us a little spiel if, if it's necessary, but red light therapy masks at home.
• 32:50
  Yes.
• 32:50
  If consistent.
• 32:51
  If consistent.
• 32:52
  There's that word again, if consistent.
• 32:54
  Okay.
• 32:54
  I love that.
• 32:55
  What about face taping at night again?
• 32:58
  Yes.
• 32:58
  If consistent.
• 32:59
  Wow.
• 33:00
  Some areas frontal is, for example, so your forehead.
• 33:03
  Okay.
• 33:03
  So that that could work.
• 33:05
  Yes.
• 33:05
  Overnight.
• 33:05
  Wow.
• 33:06
  Okay.
• 33:06
  I love that.
• 33:07
  Yeah.
• 33:07
  Women love things that work overnight.
• 33:09
  Myself too.
• 33:10
  I do.
• 33:10
  We're busy moms.
• 33:11
  Yep.
• 33:11
  If I can do something and sleep, I am for it.
• 33:14
  That's why I go to bed looking like a crazy person because I'm trying to do all the things that we all do.
• 33:19
  And I have multiple serums actually that work overnight.
• 33:22
  Okay.
• 33:22
  I know if I miss a night for whatever reason, or like if we have like a late night out and I fall asleep, like with my makeup on, I'm like, I wasted a whole day.
• 33:30
  Oh my goodness.
• 33:32
  So true.
• 33:32
  What about gua and lymphatic drainage at home, if done correctly.
• 33:38
  That's why I created the master classes and I teach people how to incorporate ingredients and how to actually manipulate their tissue.
• 33:44
  We're gonna get back to that with the master classes in a minute.
• 33:47
  I know.
• 33:47
  Oh, that's really interesting.
• 33:49
  I feel like I need to learn the proper technique to know how to gua at home because I, well, we're gonna go to one of these classes.
• 33:54
  Women.
• 33:54
  Women love it.
• 33:55
  Okay.
• 33:55
  And then we'll report back PPAs.
• 33:58
  Okay.
• 33:58
  What about ice Rolling.
• 34:00
  Oh yes.
• 34:01
  Cryo everything cold.
• 34:02
  Okay.
• 34:02
  Do you have a ice roller that you like to use?
• 34:04
  I actually use a device called G Glassier.
• 34:07
  It's a cryo facial, and I work a lot with cold.
• 34:10
  If probably you've been in my room.
• 34:11
  Yeah.
• 34:11
  You've seen I don't work with, steamers and hot.
• 34:14
  Right, right.
• 34:15
  Everything that's cold and cooling.
• 34:16
  It's anti-inflammatory.
• 34:17
  It's anti-aging.
• 34:18
  Okay.
• 34:18
  And the device glassier, it's precise cooling device.
• 34:21
  You've tried it once.
• 34:22
  Mm-hmm.
• 34:22
  Mm-hmm.
• 34:22
  I love that.
• 34:23
  Cool, cool.
• 34:24
  I, it works actually on pigment inhibiting.
• 34:25
  Is that something that you can do at home too?
• 34:27
  Yes.
• 34:28
  If you, yes.
• 34:28
  Eye rollers.
• 34:29
  Yes.
• 34:29
  You keep them ins.
• 34:30
  Okay.
• 34:31
  Of course.
• 34:31
  Great.
• 34:32
  Okay.
• 34:32
  Okay.
• 34:33
  Collagen powders.
• 34:35
  Maybe.
• 34:36
  Maybe like the joints, but not for your skin.
• 34:38
  Yeah.
• 34:39
  Interesting.
• 34:40
  That's good.
• 34:40
  Well, no, because a lot of these things are geared towards hair, skin, and beauty, and people think, if they put scoops of collagen powder in their, I think the gastric juice from our stomach will just break it down.
• 34:51
  It doesn't necessarily reach our skin.
• 34:53
  Interesting.
• 34:53
  Maybe joints.
• 34:54
  Okay.
• 34:54
  Maybe joints.
• 34:55
  Okay.
• 34:56
  What about microcurrent devices at home?
• 34:58
  Again, if consistent.
• 34:59
  Okay.
• 35:00
  20 minutes every day.
• 35:01
  It's a long, it's a commitment.
• 35:03
  That is, that is a little bit, it's a, that's lengthy a day with the mask.
• 35:05
  I see it, uh, happening more often because women do something else while wearing the mask.
• 35:09
  Yes.
• 35:10
  That's, well that's why I love that.
• 35:11
  That's why I love my red light mask is that I can actually do something else while I'm doing it.
• 35:15
  Yes.
• 35:15
  But I do feel like if, to just have to stand there, that's why I get a little bit worried about the gua because it's like such, it's so many steps.
• 35:23
  Same.
• 35:23
  And I start to like, let it go.
• 35:26
  Like I have other things to do and then it's the last thing that I wanna do.
• 35:29
  Yes.
• 35:29
  And so I sometimes I feel like, kind of started us off by saying that in order for her treatments to be really effective, you have to get your body in this like, calm state.
• 35:36
  Mm-hmm.
• 35:37
  So some of these things, if you're wearing a mask while you're driving your kids to school, like is, is it even gonna work?
• 35:43
  True.
• 35:43
  Or is it gonna work at it?
• 35:45
  Or is it going to work at its best potential?
• 35:47
  Like some things I think like maybe it's just best for that room.
• 35:52
  Yeah.
• 35:52
  You know?
• 35:52
  Because I'm not relaxed when I'm home.
• 35:54
  Well, could you work, could red light therapy?
• 35:56
  I, what do you think?
• 35:57
  Usually I'm not doing anything that's like stressful.
• 35:59
  I'm usually like watching TV or trying, you know, feeding scroll on my phone.
• 36:02
  In a relaxed state.
• 36:04
  Yes.
• 36:04
  I am kind of in a chill state.
• 36:05
  Yeah.
• 36:05
  But what about, I'm assuming we're gonna know this answer, but medical grade skincare.
• 36:10
  Of course.
• 36:10
  Of course.
• 36:10
  Course, of course.
• 36:11
  Mm-hmm.
• 36:12
  Laser facials.
• 36:13
  Yes.
• 36:14
  You answered that.
• 36:15
  Okay.
• 36:15
  Gentle, we talked about this, the radio frequency microneedling.
• 36:20
  Yes, I have a personal story that goes back to radio frequency microneedling.
• 36:24
  In my twenties.
• 36:24
  I just went to a random spa.
• 36:26
  I was curious to try because somewhere again, I've heard online someone sweared by radio frequency microneedling.
• 36:33
  I had no need.
• 36:34
  And what it did, it melted my fat around my eyes and it caused wrinkles that never existed.
• 36:39
  What's been there?
• 36:40
  Oh wow.
• 36:41
  It's irreversible.
• 36:42
  One treatment caused me a loss of facial pad and since then I, I urge people that just be cautious.
• 36:50
  Just be cautious.
• 36:51
  So how did you reverse it back because you appeared?
• 36:53
  I haven't, I just learned to love my wrinkles.
• 36:55
  Oh, I can't eye wrinkles.
• 36:57
  Well, I can't see them from here.
• 36:58
  It's, I think that's actually really interesting and I know a lot of our listeners are in their thirties, forties, fifties, but I'm sure we have listeners in our twenties and then I'm sure we even have moms of teenage daughters who will eventually be in their twenties.
• 37:11
  And so I do think that that's a very important kind of.
• 37:16
  I don't wanna say like scare tactic, but, but just like I think sometimes back to like less is more again, back less is more.
• 37:23
  And I think skincare for kids and teenagers is just so buzzy right now.
• 37:28
  And I think it can probably get a little bit too, too aggressive.
• 37:30
  I have this for a popup shop right across the hall and my daughter's room, and they were getting things and I was like.
• 37:36
  This is gonna burn your skin.
• 37:38
  Like you don't need this.
• 37:39
  This is gonna burn your skin.
• 37:40
  You can't use this.
• 37:41
  And I actually let them use it and I let them burn their skin.
• 37:44
  I was like, they need to know because they're curious.
• 37:46
  Just like you were curious in your twenties.
• 37:48
  My right.
• 37:48
  It's like live and learn.
• 37:49
  They're curious.
• 37:50
  So sometimes you have to kind of almost let them make a mistake.
• 37:52
  But I try to have my message be like, all of this stuff is to enhance how pretty you are.
• 37:57
  You know, like we're not trying to like erase these wrinkles completely.
• 38:01
  Enhance, have a story.
• 38:02
  Every wrinkle has a story.
• 38:03
  And back to sun damage and back to dermatology.
• 38:06
  We used to say in medical dermatology, the skin never forgets where it has been.
• 38:10
  Mm.
• 38:10
  And childhood sunburns come up later in life.
• 38:12
  Mm-hmm.
• 38:13
  So as parents, we have full responsibility on caring for their skin.
• 38:17
  Okay.
• 38:17
  So then there you go.
• 38:18
  Yeah.
• 38:18
  So then SPF for your kids children should be like a non-negotiable.
• 38:21
  It should.
• 38:22
  Non-negotiable.
• 38:22
  Okay.
• 38:22
  So then.
• 38:23
  This is kind of very tied into what we were talking about, but this preventative Botox in your twenties, what do you think about that?
• 38:29
  It used to be trendy.
• 38:29
  Not anymore.
• 38:30
  Not anymore.
• 38:31
  So do you think it's necessary, or no?
• 38:33
  No, it's not necessary.
• 38:34
  So are you better off with a good skincare routine as a 20-year-old?
• 38:36
  I would do, if I was you, I would do Botox once a year.
• 38:39
  Okay.
• 38:39
  So I would paralyze a muscle and let it work.
• 38:41
  Again.
• 38:41
  Okay.
• 38:41
  I would Petly it and then let it work.
• 38:44
  In your twenties?
• 38:45
  No, in my thirties.
• 38:45
  In your In your thirties.
• 38:46
  Yes.
• 38:47
  So what do you say to somebody in their twenties?
• 38:49
  Absolutely not.
• 38:50
  Absolutely not.
• 38:50
  Okay.
• 38:51
  That's very, just have like a good facial routine here and there.
• 38:54
  Good skincare routine.
• 38:55
  Yes.
• 38:55
  So deserve your barrier.
• 38:56
  There you go.
• 38:56
  Girls, there is no need.
• 38:58
  I think that Botox for the first time at 31 I was 30.
• 39:02
  Yes.
• 39:02
  I was 30, I think at 31.
• 39:04
  Like really maybe a touch deep 11 here and here.
• 39:06
  Well,'cause they call, they say it as like preventative.
• 39:09
  So this is meaning before you have those things.
• 39:11
  Like I remember being in my twenties and I didn't have the lines on my face.
• 39:15
  I didn't get those until I was probably in my late twenties, early thirties where yes, if I was moving my face, I had, I had yes lines, but it what?
• 39:22
  They weren't there right.
• 39:23
  Until I was in my thirties.
• 39:25
  So I think this preventative thing is like for what?
• 39:28
  You know why?
• 39:29
  Right?
• 39:29
  Because I had like deep lines at rest and once I had the deep elevens at rest I was like, oh, I think it's time.
• 39:36
  It's time.
• 39:36
  Yes.
• 39:36
  So I remember I went to Dr.
• 39:37
  Schreiber in Bloomfield who was like an older plastic surgeon who was like super conservative with yes.
• 39:43
  Injectables.
• 39:44
  And.
• 39:45
  He had said to me like, this is not like a big deal.
• 39:48
  We'll put a little here and over the course of like the next year they'll soften.
• 39:52
  But like, you wanna be able to scrunch your nose and move your face.
• 39:55
  Right.
• 39:56
  And I respected the fact that like, he was my first sort of like, conservative experience going and getting it done.
• 40:01
  Yeah.
• 40:02
  And I don't have the many more.
• 40:04
  So I don't know if I would've needed preventative in my twenties, but it's fuzzy.
• 40:07
  It's out there, so, right.
• 40:08
  Yeah.
• 40:09
  But I'm just speaking from personal experience.
• 40:10
  I totally agree with you.
• 40:11
  Yep.
• 40:12
  I totally agree with you.
• 40:13
  What about peptides?
• 40:15
  Because that's super, I feel like that you're seeing that everywhere.
• 40:18
  Everybody, everyone's inject.
• 40:19
  I just listened to a whole podcast about PO peptides yesterday and how they're not FDA regulated right now.
• 40:26
  They're not.
• 40:26
  They're, they're busy.
• 40:28
  They're everywhere, but they're not regulated by the F fda, so you don't really know what you're getting.
• 40:33
  I would only do serums with good peptides.
• 40:36
  Okay.
• 40:36
  That's all.
• 40:36
  I wouldn't inject.
• 40:38
  Ingest.
• 40:38
  Okay.
• 40:39
  That's why we have proteins for amino acids.
• 40:42
  Okay.
• 40:42
  I would stay in there.
• 40:43
  Okay.
• 40:43
  Okay.
• 40:43
  That's good to know.
• 40:45
  Alright, so how about retinoids versus retinol?
• 40:49
  Retinoids?
• 40:49
  So retinol is a form of retinoid.
• 40:51
  So retinoid is the whole group.
• 40:53
  Okay.
• 40:53
  And they have different derivatives of retinol, retinol, retinol, retinoid and iso retinoid.
• 40:59
  That's the pill version for someone with cystic acne.
• 41:03
  It's just from consistency, again, coming back to retinoids, consistency beats formula.
• 41:09
  So consistency, a lower dose.
• 41:11
  Brings a more change than a higher dose.
• 41:14
  Okay.
• 41:14
  So every day retinol, it's better than once a week strong retinol.
• 41:18
  Interesting.
• 41:18
  That could bring an example.
• 41:19
  Yeah.
• 41:20
  No, that's a great example.
• 41:21
  That's really helpful.
• 41:22
  What should Christina and I be using for a retinoid tonight before we go to bed?
• 41:25
  The environment night environment.
• 41:27
  The environment night.
• 41:28
  We need to, I don't have that off together from you.
• 41:30
  Yeah.
• 41:31
  Yeah.
• 41:31
  Um, okay.
• 41:32
  Chemical peels.
• 41:34
  Yes.
• 41:34
  Lovely love.
• 41:35
  Lovely.
• 41:35
  Okay.
• 41:35
  They bring so much change.
• 41:37
  People love it.
• 41:37
  Dermatologists love it.
• 41:38
  We love it as professionals.
• 41:40
  Light and medium again depth of chemical peels.
• 41:43
  What they do is very remove a layer.
• 41:45
  Of the, your skin and light pills do it gently without visible changes.
• 41:50
  And medium depth pills make you just hide for about seven days from sun, from public, um, because your skin would just fall and you have to slightly cut the axis.
• 42:00
  That gives me, that always reminds me of Samantha, but in the But bigger change.
• 42:04
  It's a bigger change.
• 42:05
  Yeah.
• 42:05
  It's bright, it's luminous.
• 42:06
  Right.
• 42:06
  It's beautiful.
• 42:07
  So, so you would say that that's worth the downtime?
• 42:09
  It's worth the downtime.
• 42:10
  Okay.
• 42:10
  Once the season, so now it's the season.
• 42:12
  Once the season.
• 42:12
  Now it's the season.
• 42:13
  So you have to go away, you have to hide in your house for four weeks a year.
• 42:16
  We wear a little mask or we do, but we do have to hide.
• 42:19
  I just.
• 42:20
  I have such a fear of like, scarring my children.
• 42:22
  Like I I, I get the visual of, I get the visual of Samantha Jones in sex in the city with the chemical feel where she's like, can you separate feel?
• 42:31
  And my publicist like, that's how I feel.
• 42:33
  I'm so afraid to like, have my face peel off in my house and my kids are gonna be like, what are you doing?
• 42:39
  And know was the snake walking around?
• 42:40
  What about, you answered this before, but vitamin C.
• 42:43
  Yes.
• 42:44
  You said it was ki you kind of said it was like a little like, eh, it's one of the most o most studied ingredient, right.
• 42:49
  In dermatology.
• 42:50
  It's an antiox.
• 42:51
  It's a good thing.
• 42:52
  It's a good thing.
• 42:52
  But there are many other things that are not as studied and have seen them perform just as well.
• 42:57
  Oh, okay.
• 42:57
  That's it.
• 42:58
  And then derma planning, do you offer that?
• 43:01
  I have love and hated relationship with der derma planning.
• 43:04
  Yes.
• 43:04
  So at home derma planning?
• 43:05
  No, for sure.
• 43:07
  An office by someone with a sterile scalpel.
• 43:09
  Mm-hmm.
• 43:09
  Yes.
• 43:10
  For the right.
• 43:11
  For the right patient.
• 43:13
  People overdo it.
• 43:14
  People run into skin sensitivities and then they just remove their own skin barrier when there's no need.
• 43:21
  Okay.
• 43:22
  That's very interesting.
• 43:23
  And I also feel like there is a little bit of a difference between at-home derma planning and then in a treatment sort, like a, in treatment treatment sort of derm dermaplaning.
• 43:33
  I feel like when I derma plan at home, it really is to remove the peach fuzz and not to like remove the layer of the skin.
• 43:40
  I feel like when you do it as a treatment True.
• 43:43
  It really, it's more of an exfoliation.
• 43:45
  True.
• 43:46
  And I feel like at home it's just to sort of like smooth out the face.
• 43:48
  Yes.
• 43:49
  And like have ev your makeup go on smoother.
• 43:51
  I think that there's a little bit, like, I don't even know if they should be called the same thing.
• 43:54
  'cause I feel like dermaplaning is like in intense, it's a instead scalpel.
• 43:57
  It's a, it's a spel scalpel and it's definitely deep.
• 44:00
  And people often, if it's just done unproperly, they break out.
• 44:04
  Right.
• 44:05
  And, and it takes time to rebuild that barrier.
• 44:07
  Okay.
• 44:08
  So I think the ones at home are like, so this like you using your husband's razor in the shower, that's not, well I even have the, I have the electric one, but it really just takes off.
• 44:15
  It's not like really touching your skin.
• 44:18
  It's just kind of like peach fuzz.
• 44:19
  Yes.
• 44:19
  It's taking off the peach fuzz peach Fs, which I do believe in that.
• 44:22
  'cause I feel like that helps with, it does skincare, ab absorption sounds.
• 44:25
  So we have two, so we have at home.
• 44:27
  Yeah.
• 44:27
  You like I don't, you don't, you don't like the one at home either.
• 44:32
  Okay.
• 44:32
  No, I, I mean because you have good skin and you don't have your barrier is strong, but someone with occasional pimples, if they do that at home, they just, they would break out even more.
• 44:41
  Oh, okay.
• 44:42
  Too risky.
• 44:42
  It sounds like some of these things you worry that they could call it damage much.
• 44:46
  Yes.
• 44:47
  Sure.
• 44:47
  Interesting.
• 44:48
  Right.
• 44:48
  Okay.
• 44:48
  So we're gonna end with what makes the biggest difference that most women are ignoring.
• 44:54
  Just loving themself as they are.
• 44:56
  And just not to being too harsh on themself.
• 44:59
  And again, less is more.
• 45:00
  Less is more.
• 45:01
  I think that is I love it.
• 45:03
  You, that's the message built something that gives women access to the highest level of skincare.
• 45:08
  And you are right here in West Hartford, Connecticut.
• 45:10
  Thank you.
• 45:10
  How lucky are we to have you here?
• 45:12
  Thank you.
• 45:13
  And also like, thank you for sharing your knowledge with all of our listeners.
• 45:17
  Thank you.
• 45:17
  It's very genuine.
• 45:18
  And thank you.
• 45:19
  Okay, so we can't let you out of the seat without our closing segment, which is our pink spotlight.
• 45:25
  It's our person, place thing, tip, mantra, anything that's making life a little bit better this week for t and i or anything that you wanna share.
• 45:33
  Do you wanna go first or do you want us to go first?
• 45:35
  Maybe you go first.
• 45:36
  Okay.
• 45:36
  T, do you have one this week?
• 45:39
  You better?
• 45:39
  I do.
• 45:40
  I, I do.
• 45:41
  So I make banana bread for my kids every morning.
• 45:44
  I can vouch for this.
• 45:45
  I make a banana bread every day.
• 45:46
  Yeah.
• 45:46
  And I always like change it up.
• 45:48
  Like sometimes I do it with like oats and almond flour.
• 45:51
  Yeah.
• 45:51
  Sometimes I just do it with like bananas and peanut butter.
• 45:54
  Sometimes I do it with like the Trader Joe's one.
• 45:57
  My kids' favorite banana bread mix is when I do it with the simple Mills one.
• 46:01
  It is so good.
• 46:03
  It is delicious.
• 46:03
  I just made one for like boxed banana bread.
• 46:05
  Right.
• 46:06
  It's so good.
• 46:06
  But you have to tell.
• 46:07
  But I doctor it up a little bit.
• 46:08
  You did.
• 46:09
  I never follow the rest.
• 46:10
  Actually.
• 46:10
  My girlfriend Chrissy will, tells this story about how when I went to her house one day and I was helping her prepare for a party'cause she was on crutches and I was like, I'll maybe she was hosting book club that night and I was like, I'll come over and I'll help you cook.
• 46:22
  So never ask me to do that, by the way.
• 46:25
  Unless you want, if you want things done your way.
• 46:27
  'cause when I come into a kitchen, I just do things my way.
• 46:30
  I was making the banana bread and she was getting mad at me'cause I wasn't following the directions.
• 46:34
  No, you never do.
• 46:35
  I feel like, because I never follow a direction.
• 46:37
  Yeah.
• 46:37
  But that night when she served the banana bread, everybody was like, this is so good, Chrissy.
• 46:41
  Is this your recipe?
• 46:42
  And I was like, well it is.
• 46:43
  But it was the tea version of it.
• 46:45
  I know.
• 46:45
  But you like have this way of like, you take like something boxed and then you don't follow the directions on the back.
• 46:50
  Never.
• 46:50
  But you somehow make it even better.
• 46:52
  So, right.
• 46:52
  So I add, so the box I think calls for like a half a couple oil, some water, two eggs.
• 46:58
  But it doesn't ask for you to add bananas.
• 47:00
  I'm like, but it's banana bread.
• 47:02
  So I do the box and then I add bananas.
• 47:04
  I see you did four bananas.
• 47:06
  I I did four bananas.
• 47:06
  I asked her,'cause I ate them to when I came in the house.
• 47:08
  And we always have like a ton of bananas in this house.
• 47:11
  'cause everybody's bananas.
• 47:12
  Yep.
• 47:13
  Like everybody's bananas.
• 47:14
  Everybody, it's like the one food, all six of us like to eat.
• 47:17
  I added eggs.
• 47:19
  I added like a little bit of cinnamon and then I actually threw in two servings of protein powder.
• 47:24
  This like vanilla whe protein powder.
• 47:25
  And I mixed it all up and then I just threw in chocolate chips.
• 47:28
  It was so good.
• 47:30
  Delicious.
• 47:30
  And I put'em in like the little muffin tins.
• 47:32
  But if I make a banana bread every morning, no, I'm gonna try.
• 47:34
  No, literally.
• 47:35
  And it's, and it's gone.
• 47:36
  When the kids leave for school, like the banana bread is gone.
• 47:40
  It's, and it's something that you, I feel like you could have that as a breakfast, as a snack, as like a tree at night.
• 47:45
  It was so good.
• 47:45
  Like, I'm not even joking.
• 47:46
  It's delicious.
• 47:47
  It's a simple Mills brand is so great and I wanna say the box is like around 10, like retail is like around 10 or$11.
• 47:54
  So every time it's on sale, like Target or Whole Foods or Amazon, I always like stock up.
• 47:59
  So I'm actually, I just made my last, I have like one box left.
• 48:02
  I need to.
• 48:02
  Was so good.
• 48:03
  We stuck.
• 48:04
  But I think you can turn a box of anything into something delicious if you just like, you need to add a few things, doctor it up a little bit.
• 48:11
  Yep.
• 48:11
  I loved it.
• 48:12
  It was delicious.
• 48:13
  I'm gonna probably be taking that I had chocolate on my face before we started.
• 48:16
  I did.
• 48:16
  I like tea.
• 48:17
  You have chocolate on your face.
• 48:18
  The evidence is there that we, I probably did too.
• 48:21
  'cause I, I had one and I I will be taking some to go.
• 48:24
  Yeah, yeah.
• 48:24
  Take some muffins to go.
• 48:26
  They're great.
• 48:26
  They're like a great little treat.
• 48:28
  I love them.
• 48:28
  That was, that was such a good one.
• 48:29
  So mine this week is a repeat.
• 48:32
  Mine is my reformer machine because I've had it for five months and I shared this, I think right when I got it and I just love it.
• 48:41
  So it's my Pilates reformer machine at home.
• 48:43
  Now it's even a better time to share it because now you've been using it now for five months now.
• 48:46
  I've been using it consistently for five months.
• 48:48
  I also am still using Leah's Pilates app, which.
• 48:52
  Leah Elli, who we've had on the podcast before, launched her own Pilates reformer app.
• 48:56
  She does have MAT classes too, but I'm using those consistently and I just have to say that if you're a busy mom, and I know it's so important, I feel like we put a lot of pressure on ourselves to be like, I know, but it's great to have the social aspect of going to classes and I get that.
• 49:12
  But like at some seasons of your life, it just does not make sense to have that weight on you.
• 49:18
  And this is such a better option if you have this space and you can like invest in something and you know that you like to do it.
• 49:24
  I feel like you have to take away that.
• 49:27
  Oh, but then I'm not getting out of the house.
• 49:29
  And it's like, just'cause you had even said, Olga said how important like consistent movement is.
• 49:34
  Yes.
• 49:34
  And if you can actually do it consistently, enjoy it and enjoy it.
• 49:38
  And it also removes the stress out of it from my life.
• 49:41
  So then it's gonna be affected.
• 49:42
  Then it's an you go to a class all frazzled.
• 49:45
  Yes.
• 49:46
  Or you supposed to like activate your muscles.
• 49:48
  Yeah.
• 49:48
  Or, or you're like, oh, I had to come'cause I couldn't move this or I was gonna lose the class.
• 49:53
  And like there, I do agree.
• 49:54
  Like if you're in this period of your life where like getting out to a workout class makes sense for you, go do it.
• 50:00
  But if you can't, I think it's so great to invest in absolutely it yourself.
• 50:05
  Like bring it home and then have it be consistent.
• 50:08
  And that's what I've been doing the last five months and it's so helpful for me.
• 50:12
  And so I always say that I am somebody that puts working out at the bottom of the list.
• 50:17
  Like if I have other things to do, I put it at the bottom.
• 50:20
  But since I know this is in my house.
• 50:23
  And I have an app on demand and I'm not worrying about a schedule.
• 50:26
  I, I can fit it in really at any time.
• 50:29
  And it's, I think that that consistency has changed it for me, just like knowing that I have access to it at all times.
• 50:36
  So I have to just shout that out again and I'll leave the link to my reformer.
• 50:41
  'cause I ordered one specifically that Leah recommended for at home.
• 50:44
  'cause you can get a bunch of different ones.
• 50:46
  She actually explained,'cause I see these floating around and I just did wanna say this.
• 50:50
  You see reformer machines that are like on Amazon or, for, for cheap.
• 50:55
  Yeah.
• 50:55
  And she said that yes you can get a reformer, but you're worried about the quality of the movement and how important it is that things go smoothly because you can hurt yourself if the springs aren't correct.
• 51:07
  If the mechanics aren't correct and you're moving and pushing against too much tension.
• 51:13
  She was saying that you really do wanna buy it from someone reputable.
• 51:16
  And so I ended up purchasing it with where, the place that she purchased one from.
• 51:20
  So it's reputable, you know, that you're not getting her, you know it's correct.
• 51:24
  And you have her guiding you through these exercises.
• 51:26
  And I have, and then I, I, I love her app so much and she has a lot of food adding to it.
• 51:31
  She has a lot of food and, um, nutrition and ingredients on her app too, which is great too.
• 51:36
  So her subscription is.
• 51:37
  Wonderful.
• 51:38
  She, there's so many classes, there's mat classes if you don't wanna do reform or classes or if you don't have, have one.
• 51:43
  Yep.
• 51:43
  Or if you're traveling.
• 51:44
  Yeah.
• 51:44
  And you know, so I just wanted to shout that out'cause it's been five months and I can say that it's probably been the most consistent thing that I've done exercise-wise.
• 51:52
  Do you feel like your strength is getting?
• 51:54
  I do.
• 51:54
  And it's, I just also feel like the stress of like not having to go out, I didn't realize how much that was affecting me.
• 52:01
  You know, like of like, oh, I have to go to the workout class'cause it's better for me mentally.
• 52:05
  No, this is, the consistency is what's better for me mentally.
• 52:08
  When do you find it's best to get downstairs?
• 52:10
  So I try, I, I used to say I love to wake up before the kids and get the workout done, but that liter, it's a joke in my house.
• 52:16
  It's like if I open my eyeballs, my daughter wakes up, so I can't, so that would also, like, I know I used to find that happen a lot too.
• 52:23
  Yeah.
• 52:23
  It's so, I, I actually find it's when my.
• 52:26
  Usually when my nanny gets to my house, I'm able to sneak down.
• 52:30
  I do like a half an hour.
• 52:31
  I don't do anything crazy and and then I'm done.
• 52:34
  So it's, I'm usually like done by nine 30 and then I can start my work day.
• 52:38
  So that's kind of how I've been working it out.
• 52:40
  And if it doesn't work out, then I go down before she leaves.
• 52:43
  Right.
• 52:44
  You know, it's kind of like I'll get my work done and then I'll run down the last half an hour before she leaves.
• 52:48
  Like it, you just have to do it when you have to do it.
• 52:50
  Yeah.
• 52:51
  Good.
• 52:51
  I'm glad.
• 52:52
  Perfect.
• 52:53
  And my um, uh, spotlight this week would be, again, going back to consistency.
• 52:57
  Mm-hmm.
• 52:58
  I was speaking to a European uh, masters in my field and we're talking about Microcurrent again, and they said, okay, you need to do it every two weeks to see consistency.
• 53:06
  I wasn't doing it every two weeks.
• 53:08
  And I told myself, and I started two weeks ago doing it this week.
• 53:12
  That's wonders.
• 53:13
  And that's like the glove microcurrent?
• 53:16
  Yes.
• 53:16
  Yes.
• 53:16
  Okay.
• 53:17
  And you do it on yourself?
• 53:18
  Yes.
• 53:18
  Oh my.
• 53:18
  Even though I wasn't consistent, I was never every two weeks and didn't know.
• 53:22
  Is, is this something that you could do at home?
• 53:24
  Yes.
• 53:24
  Yes.
• 53:24
  With a new face.
• 53:25
  With a new face, yes.
• 53:26
  Okay.
• 53:26
  That's a good brand to do it.
• 53:27
  That's okay.
• 53:28
  That's good.
• 53:28
  I do have that.
• 53:29
  And I do think it's like something I don't explain, act it out for our listeners.
• 53:32
  Like what is this?
• 53:33
  Yes.
• 53:33
  Explain a little bit about Microcurrent is, we talked a little bit about it, but it's electrical, puling, stimulation, pulsing on the muscle.
• 53:40
  Yeah.
• 53:40
  I think the at home devices are much lighter than the one.
• 53:43
  Yes.
• 53:43
  Um, professional ones, but they work on stimulating the mu, it's just, just like an workout for the face.
• 53:48
  Okay.
• 53:48
  Okay.
• 53:49
  And do you feel like it does help with the tightening, the jaw, the cheekbones, the cheekbones, cheekbones get lifted and everything gets lifted.
• 53:54
  Does it help with the jaw too?
• 53:55
  It does.
• 53:56
  It does?
• 53:56
  Yes.
• 53:56
  Okay.
• 53:56
  Okay.
• 53:58
  If you were to come in to see you, how would you, how would that differ?
• 54:02
  Like the technique differ than what like Christina has at home?
• 54:04
  At home settings?
• 54:05
  The settings our microcurrent is much stronger.
• 54:08
  Mm-hmm.
• 54:08
  Works deeper and it's in levels.
• 54:09
  If you remember, we have level one, level two, and level three.
• 54:12
  At home.
• 54:12
  It's, it's dangerous to have such devices at home.
• 54:15
  Right.
• 54:15
  Of course.
• 54:16
  Okay.
• 54:17
  So your device at home, are you like moving your hands to these motions?
• 54:20
  Well, I'm doing, to her point, I'm not doing it consistent enough.
• 54:22
  I mean, again, that has to be consistent.
• 54:23
  I think that pre-kids, yeah, when I had all the time in the world now I think of like my preki self, and I'm like, that girl was on vacation All the freaking time.
• 54:31
  But like, I'm not now.
• 54:32
  So having to stand there, having, when I always feel like I could be doing a hundred, it's not a priority.
• 54:38
  It's not, it's not a priority.
• 54:39
  It's not priority.
• 54:40
  So it's hard to stay consistent with something like that.
• 54:42
  Yeah.
• 54:42
  But you're saying that it's worth it.
• 54:44
  And so Of course then I'll do it if it's worth it.
• 54:46
  I think realistically for me, what I take away from this conversation is I'm going to be very strategic in the skincare routine.
• 54:55
  Mm-hmm.
• 54:55
  And making sure that I fill all of these buckets.
• 54:57
  So I'm gonna start with an acid, then I'm gonna have a serum, and then I'm gonna end with an enzyme and a retinol or retinoid.
• 55:04
  That's all.
• 55:05
  And then I'm gonna come see you once a month for you to do the other things.
• 55:08
  Then you realistic your injectables every once in, in a while, realistically.
• 55:10
  Yep.
• 55:11
  I can't see myself incorporating like modality at home.
• 55:14
  Like I can't see myself derma, like I forget to wear my Invisalign.
• 55:17
  I don't think I can, I can remember to do know.
• 55:20
  I know it's, it's not, like you mentioned not a priority and it's a commit.
• 55:24
  And it brings more stress.
• 55:25
  It does.
• 55:25
  So just having another thing to do.
• 55:27
  Yes.
• 55:27
  And then you feel like you feel like a failure when you don't stay consistent with things.
• 55:31
  So I, I do agree with you that I think that sometimes it's better to just make the investment and have an appointment to go to.
• 55:38
  And you know you're gonna go to that and you're like, probably worth, it's probably more worthwhile.
• 55:41
  You're coming to my bathroom before you leave and you're gonna leave it all out for me.
• 55:45
  And you're gonna, or if there's something that I need to get, then I'm gonna come, I would like to look into and I'm gonna pick it up from you later.
• 55:50
  We'll film it.
• 55:51
  I'll put it on our Oh, I love that.
• 55:52
  That's a good idea.
• 55:53
  And then you'll have to come to my house.
• 55:54
  Yeah.
• 55:55
  I've met few women that are just, lazy would be a nice word.
• 55:58
  I, I, I always tell me you need that toner.
• 56:01
  The change.
• 56:01
  It won't happen.
• 56:02
  Your pos are too large.
• 56:04
  Oh, we didn't even talk about the toner today.
• 56:05
  Didn't talk about toner.
• 56:06
  When does the toner happen?
• 56:08
  Toners, toner, toners.
• 56:09
  Oh, okay.
• 56:10
  So toner is alright.
• 56:11
  So we did, we just all, there's so many names, but she says I'm too lazy.
• 56:15
  I better come every Saturday.
• 56:16
  And she comes every Saturday.
• 56:19
  Wow.
• 56:20
  Yes.
• 56:21
  Well, that's great.
• 56:22
  That's great for you.
• 56:22
  But I think it's to, to your point, I think a lot, I, I loved that.
• 56:25
  I feel like that 80% of it can be done at home.
• 56:29
  It's simple.
• 56:30
  Just so refreshing to hear.
• 56:31
  So I think that that's so great.
• 56:33
  And it doesn't have to be the highest, most expensive Highend skincare.
• 56:37
  Mm-hmm.
• 56:37
  Some of those products are much better because they resource so af not, I just disclose for example, Mont, they have the Swiss ops and they collect their plants.
• 56:47
  They ferment and they ferment with bacteria that lives in the cloud.
• 56:50
  Yeah.
• 56:50
  So they go with a helicopter, pick up a bacteria, they bring it into the lab and they combine those things.
• 56:56
  It's very difficult to know any other skincare lines that would do the same or a tour, their last collection.
• 57:02
  It's completely generated by ai.
• 57:05
  It's amazing.
• 57:06
  It's so futuristic knowing that in artificial intelligence, knowing all the forms of peptides, was able to create a peptide that can actually penetrate.
• 57:15
  It's beautiful and it's scary.
• 57:17
  But again, not every skincare line has those resources.
• 57:20
  Mm-hmm.
• 57:20
  And the support of their scientists and their teams.
• 57:23
  And that's why it's worth investing.
• 57:26
  Few ingredients, few other lines.
• 57:28
  Right.
• 57:28
  Okay.
• 57:29
  So like not everything has to be.
• 57:30
  Mm-hmm.
• 57:31
  I love that.
• 57:31
  I feel like that is just so great to know and to remember.
• 57:34
  And so if you are lucky enough to be local to Olga and Oh, and skincare, like Tea said, she's located in West Hartford, Connecticut, so she's worth the drive if you were driving distance.
• 57:46
  Thank you.
• 57:46
  You can pamper yourself and you can.
• 57:48
  But you said you have your husband or something from all over to visit Certificate Massachusetts.
• 57:52
  Lots of Massachusetts.
• 57:53
  Yeah.
• 57:53
  You and then Rhode Island.
• 57:55
  I mean, you're right in West Hartford Center.
• 57:56
  So if you have somebody in the coming from a while, you can go right over to like Doro group for lunch right around the corner, you know?
• 58:04
  There's lots of places.
• 58:05
  It's worth it, worth it, worth it.
• 58:07
  Make the drive.
• 58:08
  And if not, I feel like if you're not local, hopefully you're just able to get just so much information and insight into the skincare world because just provided so much information to us and we're so grateful.
• 58:20
  Thank you.
• 58:20
  So to have You we're beautiful.
• 58:22
  Mother of, and just had a baby too.
• 58:24
  Like thank you so much for coming here.
• 58:27
  Thank He's adorable.
• 58:27
  Tell our listeners where they can find you and where they can book with you.
• 58:31
  They can find me right on Farmington Avenue in West Hartford.
• 58:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 58:34
  And they can just book by sim, simply sending a text message.
• 58:37
  Okay.
• 58:37
  Okay.
• 58:37
  And what's your Instagram handle that we can tag?
• 58:40
  Yes.
• 58:40
  On Skincare.
• 58:41
  Skincare.
• 58:42
  Oh and skincare.
• 58:42
  Oh, and skincare.
• 58:43
  Okay.
• 58:43
  Okay.
• 58:43
  We'll make terrific.
• 58:44
  I put all that in the show notes and we're so happy to have you here.
• 58:47
  Thank.
• 58:47
  Thank you so much.
• 58:48
  This, this has been like in the works for a while.
• 58:49
  What an honor.
• 58:50
  Yes.
• 58:50
  I So we're so happy that we were finding what a dream come true.
• 58:52
  Thank you.
• 58:52
  We're so happy that we got to meet you that night at that Phillies Night Out.
• 58:55
  Thank you.
• 58:56
  I used happy.
• 58:57
  That was such a fun night and we were so excited to meet you.
• 58:59
  So thank you for coming on our podcast today and for listening and supporting us.
• 59:03
  No, it's been just, what a joy, and again, I dunno, any other group of ladies that would do something similar to you in our state, it's just good to know we love you that you're local and you're here.
• 59:13
  Thank you.
• 59:14
  Thank you.
• 59:14
  Thank you so much.
• 59:15
  All right guys, we will be back next week.
• 59:17
  We'll see you soon.
• 59:18
  See you next week.
• 59:19
  Bye.