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Savior vs. Redeemer: Embracing Christ’s Power to Restore · Arise Women of God

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  What is the difference between the titles of Jesus Christ of Savior and Redeemer?
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  And how can understanding the difference help us get to know him better and invite him in to be a part of our lives more?
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  Stay tuned because we are going to talk about this today.
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  Welcome to Bible Women in Bathrobes, the podcast where faith meets comfort.
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  Welcome to another episode of Bible, Women & Bathrobes I'm your host, Tamara K.
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  Anderson.
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  And joining me today are two wonderful members of our Women warriors of Light advisory board.
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  Karalee Anjewierden welcom back, Kari.
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  It's good to have you.
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  Thank you.
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  Glad to be here.
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  Oh, and LaMira Wheelwright being here again.
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  Today, I'm happy to be.
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  I love it.
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  I love these opportunities to come and talk about our Savior, guys.
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  And thank you so much for joining us as well.
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  We are talking, we're doing a series right now about the names and the titles of Jesus Christ.
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  And so we've talked about Lamb of God, what Jesus means, what Christ means, what Messiah means, what Son of God means.
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  And today we're talking about the difference between Savior and redeemer.
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  And so I thought we'd kick it off a little bit by first of all, LaMira, would you mind sharing with us what Savior means?
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  Savior is somebody who saves us, right?
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  He brings salvation.
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  He saves us from danger and destruction.
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  And that, that is basically what he does.
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  It's one who saves, one who saves.
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  I love that.
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  I love that so much.
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  Kari what are there any favorite verses that you found about Jesus being your Savior?
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  That's a good question.
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  I love in Job 19:25 as he is talking about his Redeemer.
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  And I love thinking about where Job was when he made that statement.
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  He had just lost everything.
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  Everything.
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  And yet that was the reason that he could make the statement that he made that Christ was, well, he uses redeemer, but it's still the same, right?
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  He had been saved.
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  He had been saved by Jesus Christ.
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  And he knew that it was only from Jesus Christ that that was possible.
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  After he had lost everything, his health, his family, his possessions, everything, the thing that mattered to him, what he believed Through Christ.
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  I love what you shared there.
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  It's beautiful.
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  And I love that he uses the word Redeemer.
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  I know that my Redeemer lives.
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  And I think it's something like in that he'll stand again on the.
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  In the latter days upon the earth.
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  And though worms.
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  This basically talks about his body being that he knew that his body would go to the grave, that he knew that in the latter day he would see God, you know, basically face to face.
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  And I love that word Redeemer too.
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  And that word Redeemer, as I was looking at it, it means to buy back that which was lost.
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  And so if you pause and you look at the story of Job through that lens of a Redeemer being somebody who, if you have something and then you lose it, he can bring it back.
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  He can redeem that.
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  He can bring it back.
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  For Job, that was so symbolic, right, that he, like you said, he had lost everything and yet his Redeemer gave it to him.
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  Like it said he.
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  He was able to double the amount of sheep and oxen and houses and he got 10 more children and all these things.
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  I mean, he literally, in the story of Job, redeemed him and that he brought everything back.
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  And, and I also think Redeemer is symbolic in the sense of, of each of our journeys, how we lived with God before we came to earth.
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  We've come to earth and you know, we're not perfect guys.
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  We have fallen.
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  Those chains of sin and anguish and all those other things hold us down and they, they separate us from God.
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  And yet the symbolic name of Redeemer can bring us back so that we're good with God.
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  The, the pay.
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  Jesus as a Savior has paid the price of our sins and is able to redeem us or bring us back, buy back through the price of his blood, all.
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  He's paid the price of everything, right?
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  And brought us back to that.
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  LaMira, you look like you were thinking very deeply there something you wanted to share?
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  Sorry, I like.
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  I'm listening to this because I love what you shared with that the Redeemer, it's like going back and getting us.
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  And the thing that struck me was in Isaiah, chapter 44, verse 22, and he says, I have blotted out as a thick cloud thy transgressions, and as a cloud thy sins return unto me, for I have redeemed thee.
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  And what stuck out to me there is.
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  I wrote the word choice because he says he did it, but then he asks us and invites us to return to him.
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  So all these things that we've done, he's paved the way for us to return.
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  And basically, because we're on this fallen world, he will come back and take us back into the presence of our Father if we choose him.
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  And that's why Job received all those blessings.
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  Because that famous scripture is.
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  He said, you know, I know that my Redeemer liveth until I die.
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  And I love that.
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  He's like, I won't remove my integrity from me.
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  I know what is right.
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  I know I'm not gonna go into these places.
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  And I feel like Job is a very physical manifestation of our eternal.
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  That.
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  That symbolic of that eternal is that here we are.
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  And we've.
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  It can be so rough and so hard and feel like everything that we know, we suddenly don't know.
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  Or especially right now, there are a lot of people losing jobs and.
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  And things upheaval and a coming and like all this stuff that's happening.
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  And yet we have a Redeemer who will bless us and when we are there, give us so much more.
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  But we have to choose that.
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  We have to choose.
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  And then there was another scripture.
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  I just was looking at that.
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  I think it was in Peter.
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  It was talking about, it's not through money.
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  You know, there's a play that's like, I can't.
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  It's called, you can't take it with you, right?
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  And it's.
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  But it's the whole scripture.
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  Lay not for yourself treasures on earth, right?
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  But treasures in heaven.
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  And we on this earth, we use money because that is what has been set on this earth.
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  But that's not a God thing.
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  He will bless us through the riches, but that is not what it is.
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  It's through the blood of our Savior, Jesus Christ.
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  And that is the greatest price that was given.
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  I love that.
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  Thank you.
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  Thank you for sharing that.
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  I love that, LaMira, because I was thinking about that too.
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  As you say, choice, not only is it our choice, but he chose us first.
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  It was also his choice because he was obedient to God's plan, but he chose it.
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  In Galatians 1:4, he talks about.
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  He gave himself.
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  He gave himself.
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  He chose it.
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  He chose it for us.
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  It was a very personal, personal giving choice that he made to deliver us for mortality.
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  But the mortal combat, if you will, that we are in.
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  He knew we would need what he could offer us to remove us from the heartache and the pain and the sins and all of that.
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  And so I love that not only did he buy us with the price of His Blood.
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  But he chose it.
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  Even if it had just been one of us, he would have chosen it again and again and again.
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  There's a couple of words as you guys have been talking and as I've kind of been looking at some of the verses that go along with Savior and Redeemer, there's other words that seem to pop out, and one
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  is oppression or oppressors that he saves us from that deliverer.
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  He's a great deliverer.
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  He delivers us from sin and death and all those things.
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  And.
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  And I think those go hand in hand with Savior and Redeemer.
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  There's a verse in Isaiah, chapter 19, verse 20, that says, and it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of the hosts in the land of Egypt.
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  For they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a Savior, a great one, and he shall deliver them.
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  And so often as.
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  As we've been talking, there are things that feel heavy, that press down on our shoulders.
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  Sometimes it's people, sometimes it's situations, Sometimes it is just physical exhaustion.
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  And the things required of us just feel so, so, so heavy.
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  And I know I felt that way in my life.
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  And how neat it is that we can take these titles of Savior and Redeemer and apply them to each of those situations.
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  Right?
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  That he can not only save us from our sins, but he can help with those oppressive things that are weighing on our minds and on our shoulders and in our hearts.
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  Right?
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  That it's.
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  He's.
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  He's saving us from more than sin.
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  He.
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  He.
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  That's where grace comes into play and all of those things.
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  The empowering strength that we can tap into as we lean on Jesus as our Savior.
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  He can carry us.
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  That, that.
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  That poem, the Footprints in the sand, you know, where He.
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  You only see one set of footprints because he was carrying us through those hard times.
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  That's.
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  That's what a Savior means to me, is that he was there and he carried me through some of the darkest points of my life, you know?
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  And I know and I trust, like Job, that He will continue to carry me and redeem me through whatever is in front of me as well.
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  Right.
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  LaMira, any thoughts or scriptures you'd like to tack on or personal stories you'd like to share?
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  My.
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  My friend just posted something.
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  She's been talking about who Christ is to her on social media, and she talked about Christ, like Jesus Christ being like a spotter.
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  Like when you go lift weights, the person who's going to help with that.
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  And I really loved that.
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  You know, we've heard the term that Christ or Jesus Christ, God won't give us anything any more than we can handle.
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  And I love.
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  She's like, I call BS is what she said on that.
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  And I love that she goes, because that's not true.
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  She's like, he will give us.
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  He will.
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  He won't give us anything we can't handle without our Savior, Jesus Christ.
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  You know, as you talked about being Jesus, being the deliverer, I feel like when you said that Mike, literally having that spotter lift those barbells up be so I could keep pushing because I can't.
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  Sometimes you'll put that load on and it's to make you stronger and it's.
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  He'll.
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  He'll give you heavy stuff, but he doesn't expect you to do it alone.
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  He.
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  But he does invite you to come to him, right?
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  To all you that labor and are heavy laden, come unto me and I will give you rest.
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  And that rest is just so that we can take it on together, you know, and usually his portion is more than our portion.
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  Right?
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  But.
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  But that is something that I thought about when you said that is.
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  And my friend says, and he will take the weight if we can't.
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  And sometimes things don't go away, but it shifts or we shift.
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  And I like to think that that's my savior and knowing that and just even that, knowing that he has, he's experienced it, he's gone through it.
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  And usually if I'm like, well, has he gone through this?
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  Then somehow some Bible story or some story of Christ comes up that I'm like, oh, yep, I guess he has, you know, just didn't think about it.
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  So for me, I love that, that we're allowed to struggle so we can gain strength and so we can reach out to our Savior and He can lift us.
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  Oh, I love that so much.
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  When you said about Jesus not giving us more than we can handle.
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  I know I have a whole chapter in one of my books that says that he, like I like your friends that I call B.S.
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  he doesn't give you more than he can handle than you can handle with his help.
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  So that it's that choice that we were talking about before.
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  Do we try to handle it on our own?
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  Because I know that sometimes I've been stubborn and you know, like a little two year old, you know, I want to do it myself, I want to do it by myself.
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  I'm big, I'm strong, I can do this and there's other times when I'm like, oh, no, too heavy, too hard.
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  Kari, any thoughts?
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  I've had a couple of thoughts as we've been sitting here.
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  One of the things.
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  Well, going back to the story of Job, right?
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  I mean, he carried a lot of stuff, but it was only manageable because he did it with Christ by his side.
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  And.
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  And I think that is a great example to all of us of what our lives can look like when we parries us.
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  I.
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  And going back to the scripture that LaMira read in Isaiah.
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  You know, that thick cloud, it's a blanket.
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  You know, if you've ever flown on an airplane and you're up in the clouds, you cannot see anything else.
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  And to have him love us that much that all of the yucky stuff that we're in, he completely can block out any of that.
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  But again, it is that choice of walking because otherwise we're waiting through all of that yuck.
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  You know, he can lift us above it and bring us into that space where we can be walking on clouds, as so to speak, really.
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  But the other thing I was thinking of in.
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  In Isaiah 49:26, he says, I, the Lord am thy Savior and redeemer.
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  And I love that because it takes me right back to John, who says, he is my Jesus.
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  He's my Jesus.
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  It is, again, personal.
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  He's thy, you know, Savior and Redeemer.
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  He can be ours if we take the time and choose to walk with him, to partner with him, to yoke with him.
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  However you want to put that.
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  And I love that imagery myself, with the Savior.
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  And I know what that would look like.
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  I would be this, you know, very puny little skinny ox in.
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  In my part of the yoke.
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  And.
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  And.
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  And Christ would be doing most of the carrying.
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  But I can't do it without him.
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  I wouldn't be able to pull it along.
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  I.
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  I have to have him there.
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  I love the Torvaldsen's statue of the Savior with his hands reaching out.
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  That is my Jesus.
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  That is my Savior.
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  That is my Redeemer.
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  His hands are wide open to save me, to bring me back, to restore me.
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  All of those things if I choose it.
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  So beautiful.
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  Kari, thank you so much for sharing that.
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  A verse in Acts kind of came to mind, and I wanted to share it with you because I think it ties into everything we've been saying here.
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  Acts, chapter 4, verse 12.
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  For there is none other name under heaven given under.
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  Among men, whereby we men may be saved.
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  It's only through Jesus And I was thinking about how, you know, if we look at, like, the epic movies throughout time, you know, there's times when they're looking for the.
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  The chalice of Christ.
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  Water that will help you last forever.
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  There was a tower in the Tower of Babel trying to build your way to heaven.
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  And.
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  And.
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  And throughout history, people have dreamed and imagined up all these magical ways to save us, to make us have perf.
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  You know, a perfect body that won't ever die or something like that.
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  And the truth is this.
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  This is what Jesus came for.
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  He came to answer this once and for all.
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  There is a way back, and we all have access to it.
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  We don't need some ancient map.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Unless you're talking about the scriptures to help us, to help us access this eternal life, we can access it through Christ.
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  In Acts 2:21, it says, Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
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  How beautiful is that?
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  Oh, my goodness.
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  All right, LaMira, let's come.
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  Come around.
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  Full.
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  Full figure here and.
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  And wrap things up.
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  Final thoughts or takeaways on Jesus being your Savior and Redeemer.
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  We have to choose him every day.
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  I think we've talked about that in the last episode, but it's a choice.
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  And even when Kari, you know, brought out the idea of the cloud, it reminds me of the thought of how our Savior's blood dripped like rain.
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  And so not only does it block it out, through the cloud is the rain that washes away everything.
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  And we have to choose Him.
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  Life is gonna be hard.
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  People we.
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  We live and work with every day are gonna be hard.
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  And he knows and he has it.
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  And he can deliver us.
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  He can deliver us from ourselves.
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  When you talk about being captive and bound, it really is through things that we cannot do ourselves, as you said, like, we.
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  We can't.
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  We can't be resurrected on our own.
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  We can't redeem.
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  But through him we can be.
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  And so do we want to be.
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  And how much do I want of that?
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  And it's a choice, and it.
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  Sometimes it feels hard, but in all honesty, it's easier when I'm with him.
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  It.
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  The hard doesn't always go away.
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  But.
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  But mentally, I feel like there's easier.
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  So I.
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  Those film, like my takeaways is he's my Redeemer, who's my Savior?
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  That picture that Kari painte of.
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  Of the Savior with his outstretched arms, they're there.
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  Am I hesitant or am I running into those?
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  Where am I?
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  So those are my thoughts.
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  Oh, good question.
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  Am I hesitant or am I running into him?
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  I love that.
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  So beautiful.
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  Kari, final takeaways or thoughts?
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  Yeah, I love that, too.
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  LaMira.
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  One of the things that I was thinking of is just the idea of redeemer and being able to bring back that that was lost.
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  And I think one of the things in my own life that I have sought for is wholeness.
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  I want that wholeness.
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  And that comes through him, only through him, because he saves, because he knows that danger or where the destruction is, because he brings salvation.
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  And again, that idea, again, am I seeking wholeness with him because that's the only way it's possible.
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  Oh, I love that.
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  Thank you so much for sharing that for me.
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  I.
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  I've loved so much about this episode.
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  And you can probably hear my Nathan in the background.
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  He's my son with autism, and he's having a happy moment, which is fantastic right now.
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  One of the beautiful things is I can kind of tie this in to this episode, is that Jesus is able to redeem Nathan and bring him back so that someday he will have perfect wholeness too.
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  And I look forward to that day.
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  I look forward to the day.
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  And I'm thankful for the days he helps me when I feel pressure and oppression.
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  I'm thankful for all the miles he has walked with me and carried me through difficult times.
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  That felt long.
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  And sometimes they did.
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  They lasted years and even decades because it was so, so very hard and so, so very heavy.
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  And did I get stronger through it?
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  Yes.
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  But.
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  But I'm thankful that when I was weak, he was strong.
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  And so I think there's.
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  There's one verse in Psalm 106, 21, and it says, they forget their Savior, which had done great things unto them.
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  My greatest prayer for myself, don't forget him.
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  Don't forget him.
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  Because it's when we forget him that things get harder, right?
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  And then we are carrying that yoke all on our own.
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  And, boy, howdy, that is not a fun place to be.
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  But I.
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  I testify that he lives and that he can save and redeem all of us from all the pains and sorrows and heartaches of mortality.
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  And someday we can rest with him.
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  And that will be glorious, too.
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  I actually look forward to that.
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  Anyway, guys, thanks for joining us on today's episode.
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  We appreciate you coming and listening to us today, and we invite you to remember the Savior and Redeemer in your life and invite him in.
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  Choose him and see how he can help carry your burdens as well.
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