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- 1:12Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome back here to the Financial Exchange. It's Mike,
- 1:16Speaker 2: Mark and Tucker with you on a Tuesday where we've
- 1:20Speaker 2: got all three major indices in the red. The Dow
- 1:23Speaker 2: just barely off about seven points flat for the day,
- 1:26Speaker 2: the S and P five hundred off forty three or
- 1:28Speaker 2: about half of a percent. But the Nasdaq is the
- 1:30Speaker 2: one in focus this morning, all three hundred and fifty
- 1:34Speaker 2: seven points one and a third percent in early trading.
- 1:38Speaker 2: This on the heels of higher oil prices, threats of
- 1:41Speaker 2: strikes again in the Middle East. We will see where
- 1:45Speaker 2: all that goes. But oil price is up to eighty
- 1:47Speaker 2: five dollars a barrel, up about nine tenths of a
- 1:51Speaker 2: percent this morning. That's bringing gas prices up with it,
- 1:55Speaker 2: up to four h six per gallon on the national average.
- 1:59Speaker 2: We're also seeing a little bit of push again in
- 2:03Speaker 2: bond yields. We talked about this in the first hour
- 2:06Speaker 2: of the show, but the thirty year treasury is topping
- 2:11Speaker 2: now five and a third percent. That is a nineteen
- 2:14Speaker 2: year high. Last time we saw yields on the thirty
- 2:17Speaker 2: year treasury this high was back in two thousand and seven.
- 2:22Speaker 2: You know, we can talk about the cause and effect there,
- 2:25Speaker 2: but the reality for all of us is that it's
- 2:28Speaker 2: meaning higher interest rates. The average thirty year fixed rate
- 2:32Speaker 2: mortgage now sitting at six point seven to three percent
- 2:37Speaker 2: in part because of these higher interest rates that are
- 2:40Speaker 2: being driven up. And Mark, let's talk a little bit
- 2:43Speaker 2: more about this phenomenon we're seeing. And as we discussed previously,
- 2:50Speaker 2: nailing down the proximate cause of yields moving in one
- 2:54Speaker 2: direction or another over a short even intermediate period of
- 2:59Speaker 2: time next two impossible to do. Occasionally you can look
- 3:02Speaker 2: at I don't know, yields in the Argentinian economy and say, well,
- 3:08Speaker 2: pretty clear, what's going on here. Other times you look
- 3:11Speaker 2: at you know, yields climbing globally and you say, well,
- 3:14Speaker 2: this could be any number of factors. But let's talk about.
- 3:18Speaker 3: True stock prices.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Do for that? Sure? Yeah, Like, you know, can I
- 3:22Speaker 2: definitively say why home depot stock is up a percentage
- 3:26Speaker 2: and a half this morning? Well, their earnings might not
- 3:28Speaker 2: have been quite as badly something you thought? Yeah, you know,
- 3:32Speaker 2: you can't say these sellers are selling, these buyers are buying,
- 3:36Speaker 2: and therefore the price is going up. Same goes with
- 3:39Speaker 2: bond bond prices and interest rates. Yeah, but instead of
- 3:43Speaker 2: trying to suss out where, you know, where the demand
- 3:47Speaker 2: is dropping or where their supply is increasing, let's just
- 3:51Speaker 2: talk about like why it concerns people that interest rates
- 3:55Speaker 2: are moving up? Right? You know what happens if it
- 3:59Speaker 2: becomes pro longed, if it gets away from the Treasury
- 4:02Speaker 2: and the Fed, and why it could create problems, certainly
- 4:06Speaker 2: overseas but maybe even here in the United States.
- 4:09Speaker 4: Well, it exacerbates the debt sustainability problem. And by that
- 4:13Speaker 4: I mean debt relative to GDP, how much we owe
- 4:17Speaker 4: collectively relative to divided by literally our output of goods
- 4:23Speaker 4: and services, which we measure according to GDP Gross domestic Product.
- 4:27Speaker 4: There's other ways to measure it, but that's the most
- 4:29Speaker 4: widely publicized and useful measure. At some point, debt to
- 4:34Speaker 4: GDP and debt held by the public to GDP is
- 4:37Speaker 4: now a little bit over around one hundred percent. At
- 4:42Speaker 4: some point, investors aren't going to believe that's going to
- 4:44Speaker 4: get paid back. And I don't mean default. The US
- 4:47Speaker 4: government went not default because we can print money, but
- 4:50Speaker 4: at some point they're going to believe bond investors are going.
- 4:54Speaker 3: To incur losses.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Yep.
- 4:56Speaker 3: And that's what happened during COVID.
- 4:57Speaker 4: By the way, bond investors got screwed via inflation, interest
- 5:02Speaker 4: rates went up by a lot. Existing bondholders saw huge,
- 5:05Speaker 4: unprecedented principal losses. Broad bond indicies went down. Uh during
- 5:12Speaker 4: the heat of that. Uh, that that pricing in of
- 5:16Speaker 4: that realization. So you know, Mike, this this matters because
- 5:22Speaker 4: the the treasuries, the the the interest paid by the
- 5:26Speaker 4: US Treasury on debt. We all know it's about a
- 5:28Speaker 4: trillion dollars we spend now more on interest than we
- 5:31Speaker 4: do on defense.
- 5:32Speaker 3: That's only going to rise.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Uh.
- 5:34Speaker 4: The the fiscal situation in this country is a mess.
- 5:38Speaker 2: Uh.
- 5:39Speaker 4: It's to say it's deteriorated in the past decade under
- 5:42Speaker 4: Trump than Biden out Trump again is an understatement. We've
- 5:45Speaker 4: been more wasteful than ever. There was a lot of
- 5:48Speaker 4: handering during the Reagan years and debt did double from
- 5:52Speaker 4: one to two trillion during those years. And I'm not
- 5:54Speaker 4: going to deny that, but you could argue, well, that
- 5:56Speaker 4: was an investment to win the Cold War. Debt hasn't
- 5:59Speaker 4: quite doubled in the past ten years, but it's up
- 6:01Speaker 4: well over fifty percent from a much bigger baseline, and
- 6:04Speaker 4: in the last generation it's up from around what two
- 6:07Speaker 4: three trillion to now nearly forty trillion all debt, not
- 6:12Speaker 4: just dead held by the public. These numbers are staggering,
- 6:15Speaker 4: so staggering that I don't I don't even know like
- 6:17Speaker 4: how to conceptualize them. Frankly, at some point it's going
- 6:21Speaker 4: to matter, and at some point interest rates will if
- 6:24Speaker 4: nothing is done, go up. I assume buy a lot
- 6:26Speaker 4: as investors price in the unavoidable money printing that's going
- 6:30Speaker 4: to be used to pay down these.
- 6:32Speaker 2: And that's that's again, what the risk of not getting
- 6:36Speaker 2: your money back? It is not a concern for most
- 6:39Speaker 2: people of the US government, the Treasury just saying well,
- 6:41Speaker 2: we're not going to honor those debts and we are
- 6:43Speaker 2: going to cancel it. Yeah, yeah, that's not likely what
- 6:46Speaker 2: they're going to do. But if the US government does
- 6:49Speaker 2: in fact need to print a whole bunch more money
- 6:52Speaker 2: in order to pay back those debts, then you're being
- 6:54Speaker 2: paid back in dollars that can buy a lot less
- 6:58Speaker 2: stuff otherwise.
- 6:59Speaker 3: Right, this is less of a.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Problem here in the United States than it is for
- 7:02Speaker 2: other countries. I want to focus.
- 7:04Speaker 4: On that historically anyway, Well, hold on, I mean there
- 7:06Speaker 4: have been periods when we've inflated a lot of debt away. Yep,
- 7:10Speaker 4: when we jammed this problem down the throat of bondholders.
- 7:14Speaker 4: Civil War, right after World War two less so. But
- 7:17Speaker 4: and then if you count the Confederacy most people don't
- 7:20Speaker 4: as a US government, but it happened to year inflation
- 7:23Speaker 4: was like five thousand percent.
- 7:25Speaker 2: What some would argue again, what I would argue is
- 7:28Speaker 2: different today is the fact that we are the reserve currency.
- 7:31Speaker 2: And why I think we're given much more leeway on
- 7:34Speaker 2: our debt than pretty much any other country out there
- 7:37Speaker 2: is because there are a lot more people and institutions
- 7:39Speaker 2: that need to buy dollars in.
- 7:41Speaker 4: Order to connect stuff interest right, I mean, we have
- 7:43Speaker 4: been for the better part of a century now, and
- 7:47Speaker 4: that won't stop rates from going up a lot. It
- 7:49Speaker 4: did not in the nineteen seventies certainly.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Yeah, and so when you will use.
- 7:54Speaker 3: That privilege too.
- 7:54Speaker 4: Incidentally, if we continue to combused stable yeah, I don't
- 7:58Speaker 4: know what's going to supplant the dollar. It's so dominant
- 8:03Speaker 4: in foreign exchange and in settlement and payment. But investors
- 8:08Speaker 4: won't put up with it.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break when we return, Hold on,
- 8:14Speaker 2: I need to look at my agenda here. When we return,
- 8:16Speaker 2: we're talking a little bit about the AI trade, specifically,
- 8:21Speaker 2: what we have seen in stocks for the last five
- 8:24Speaker 2: years rolling now pretty unprecedented levels of return, certainly nothing
- 8:27Speaker 2: we've seen in the last two decades. What it's meant
- 8:30Speaker 2: for investors, what's driving it, and what might be coming next.
- 8:33Speaker 2: That's next on the Financial Exchange.
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- 9:21Speaker 2: The return that we've seen on stocks really since the
- 9:24Speaker 2: COVID pandemic has been nothing just short of unprecedented. There
- 9:31Speaker 2: have been very few periods of times that we have
- 9:33Speaker 2: seen a compound growth rate like what we have seen
- 9:38Speaker 2: from US equities since that period in time. I couldn't
- 9:41Speaker 2: get exactly at the time frame that they're looking at here.
- 9:44Speaker 2: I think it's a five year compound annual growth rate
- 9:47Speaker 2: of fifteen percent on the S and P five hundred
- 9:50Speaker 2: according to Dow Jones Market data. And I believe that's
- 9:53Speaker 2: looking at this summer's close, you know, August close in
- 9:57Speaker 2: twenty twenty six from what would be what's that twenty
- 10:01Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty one would be the five year time
- 10:04Speaker 2: period in any case, Yeah, yeah.
- 10:07Speaker 3: I always have to do that. I always want to subtract.
- 10:10Speaker 2: In any case, you're looking at like the post COVID
- 10:12Speaker 2: pretty low levels to now, and it is a pretty
- 10:16Speaker 2: phenomenal point return. And I think there's a few messages
- 10:20Speaker 2: in here, but there's really one that I think is relevant.
- 10:24Speaker 2: They market Watch here, you know, listed out a bunch
- 10:27Speaker 2: of things that they considered to be scary moments in
- 10:30Speaker 2: time during that a global pandemic, the fastest thirty percent
- 10:34Speaker 2: equity draw down in history, supply chain crisis, memestock mania,
- 10:39Speaker 2: forty year high inflation rate of nine percent, Russia invading
- 10:43Speaker 2: Ukraine again, one hundred and forty dollars a barrel oil prices,
- 10:47Speaker 2: the FED had to hike seventy five basis points twice
- 10:51Speaker 2: in back to back meetings. Short term bond yields going
- 10:53Speaker 2: from zero to five percent, an inverted yield curve, Silicon
- 10:56Speaker 2: Valley bank crisis, the twenty twenty two bear market, worst
- 11:00Speaker 2: bond market crash in history, UH, one of the worst
- 11:04Speaker 2: years ever for a sixty forty portfolio. Mortgage rates going
- 11:07Speaker 2: three to eight percent UH, commercial real estate crashing, the
- 11:12Speaker 2: China real estate crisis, government shutdowns, debt ceiling standoffs, credit
- 11:17Speaker 2: rating downgrades, the yen carry trade, liberation day, terrifs, iron war,
- 11:21Speaker 2: oil gas price spin to bathroom thirty year treasury yields. Again,
- 11:25Speaker 2: all of these pretty much occurred over the last five
- 11:28Speaker 2: six years.
- 11:29Speaker 3: Yeah, so at that point, like the market's indestructible.
- 11:32Speaker 2: No, I think the point, well, I'm not sure they're
- 11:36Speaker 2: trying to make that point. I think it pays to
- 11:38Speaker 2: stay put, is the message they're delivering here, because any
- 11:40Speaker 2: one of those thirty y odd items that I just
- 11:43Speaker 2: listed might have been enough to spook somebody away from
- 11:46Speaker 2: the stock market. In many cases, I.
- 11:48Speaker 4: Know it wasn't over yet, Mike, maybe it should have been.
- 11:51Speaker 4: I mean, the story's not We're never on the last
- 11:54Speaker 4: page of the last chapter.
- 11:56Speaker 2: We're not.
- 11:57Speaker 3: But I think the unless you cashed.
- 11:59Speaker 4: Out and then you don't care anymore. But for most
- 12:01Speaker 4: of us, I mean the.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Cash down and did what are sitting in cash?
- 12:06Speaker 4: You bought an annuity or something. You say you were
- 12:08Speaker 4: sixty five, you said, I don't need the growth anymore.
- 12:10Speaker 4: That's probably not advisable for most Yeah, but I get.
- 12:13Speaker 4: My point is for most people, the story continues to unfold,
- 12:16Speaker 4: and we may have a very different retrospective a.
- 12:20Speaker 2: Year ten year.
- 12:21Speaker 1: Look.
- 12:21Speaker 4: I mean, by any measure, the stock market is obscenely
- 12:25Speaker 4: overvalued right now unless AI not only delivers very high
- 12:29Speaker 4: rates of economic growth, but profit growth moreover, delivers those
- 12:33Speaker 4: rates of profit growth to existing companies.
- 12:37Speaker 2: The So this may not end well, of course, I mean.
- 12:40Speaker 3: And you're not you weren't saying differently.
- 12:41Speaker 2: I recognize that there will be a crash, There will
- 12:44Speaker 2: be many more crashes.
- 12:46Speaker 3: But if you're a long term investor, those crashes will
- 12:48Speaker 3: be good.
- 12:48Speaker 2: I guess that's opportunity. And I know I hate thinking.
- 12:51Speaker 2: I love call you on statistics without preparing you for
- 12:54Speaker 2: calling you on statics.
- 12:55Speaker 3: I'll just make it up. It's okay. Nobody, nobody cares anything.
- 12:59Speaker 2: Like the investor that's got a thirty year horizon. Yeah,
- 13:04Speaker 2: the messages don't worry about this stuff. The message of
- 13:07Speaker 2: don't worry about this mess is because over thirty year
- 13:12Speaker 2: time horizons. I guess first things First, do you know,
- 13:15Speaker 2: has there ever been a thirty year time horizon in
- 13:17Speaker 2: the last hundred years of stock market investing where an
- 13:20Speaker 2: investor has lost money?
- 13:21Speaker 4: Now, maybe if you use like the Stern data set
- 13:24Speaker 4: from NYU Stern, you can get one hundred years because
- 13:27Speaker 4: it goes back to nineteen twenty seven or twenty six.
- 13:30Speaker 4: Maybe it starts, yeah, maybe very early on.
- 13:34Speaker 3: It was close, but it's it's great.
- 13:36Speaker 2: It's so rare.
- 13:37Speaker 4: Yeah, which is of course extreme. Ninety percent drop peaked
- 13:40Speaker 4: a trough and the dow that was so extreme. There's
- 13:45Speaker 4: not gonna be another great depression because we jet us
- 13:47Speaker 4: in the gold standard, so that's not gonna the the
- 13:50Speaker 4: approximate cause to use your earlier rays, which I like,
- 13:54Speaker 4: there's there's there's wide there's wide agreement that the monetary
- 13:58Speaker 4: policy could prevent an they're great depression. There could be
- 14:02Speaker 4: a prolonged period like the nineteen seventies were terrible for equities,
- 14:05Speaker 4: but they were flat in nominal terms. In real terms,
- 14:07Speaker 4: you lost money, but they were flat in nominal terms.
- 14:10Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that is so that is such
- 14:12Speaker 4: an extreme counterexample, Mike, to long story short here to
- 14:15Speaker 4: finally get around answering your question that we can rule
- 14:17Speaker 4: that out. I'm very comfortable. I think most researchers will
- 14:20Speaker 4: be comfortable with saying, if the economy structure doesn't change dramatically, yeah,
- 14:24Speaker 4: you should be at a thirty year horizon. Stocks are
- 14:27Speaker 4: very likely to beat bonds, and that is the relevant comparison,
- 14:30Speaker 4: by the way stocks relative to whatever else you could
- 14:32Speaker 4: have done cash bonds.
- 14:33Speaker 3: Right.
- 14:33Speaker 2: The counterpoint that I always get when I make this point,
- 14:36Speaker 2: whether it's you know, me talking about stocks over ten
- 14:38Speaker 2: year return where they rarely lose money, or a twenty
- 14:40Speaker 2: year return where it almost never happens, or a thirty
- 14:43Speaker 2: year return where over the last hundred years, Mark and
- 14:45Speaker 2: I would struggle to even find a three decade period
- 14:48Speaker 2: where stocks lost money. The counterpoint that I hear from
- 14:51Speaker 2: a lot of folks is, well, that was fine when
- 14:54Speaker 2: I was thirty five and investing in my four oh
- 14:56Speaker 2: one K, But I'm not thirty five, Mike. Now I'm
- 14:58Speaker 2: sixty and and I've only got five years. Different storymore,
- 15:04Speaker 2: it is a different story. But here's what I struggle
- 15:08Speaker 2: to convey to people. I'm sixty years old, I'm five
- 15:10Speaker 2: years away from retirement, and my next question is, sounds good.
- 15:14Speaker 2: Are you planning on spending your entire four oh one
- 15:16Speaker 2: k the first year of your retirement? Because if you are,
- 15:19Speaker 2: then you're absolutely right you should have no money anywhere
- 15:22Speaker 2: near the stock market. But if you're like most people,
- 15:25Speaker 2: it's sixty years old, if you're a married couple, there's
- 15:28Speaker 2: a pretty good chance you still have a thirty year
- 15:30Speaker 2: time horizon. I don't know what the odds.
- 15:33Speaker 3: Are couple like sixteen years.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Old, but for a married couple at sixty years old,
- 15:39Speaker 2: I think there's something like a one in three chance
- 15:42Speaker 2: that at least one of you makes it till ninety.
- 15:44Speaker 2: That gives you a thirty year time horizon. And it
- 15:48Speaker 2: does not certainly mean that you take all of it
- 15:50Speaker 2: and be as aggressive as you were when you were
- 15:52Speaker 2: thirty five. But far too often I see people approach
- 15:56Speaker 2: that retirement stage and say, okay, well now I need
- 15:58Speaker 2: to get twice as conservative, or you know, take three
- 16:04Speaker 2: quarters of my portfolio and change what I'm doing, And
- 16:08Speaker 2: the answer is maybe yes. But by doing so, you
- 16:12Speaker 2: have to be aware of and concerned about all the
- 16:14Speaker 2: risks that affect you. And I will tell you from
- 16:17Speaker 2: my first hand experience, which might be different because I
- 16:20Speaker 2: primarily meet with people who have been successful enough to
- 16:24Speaker 2: save a fair bit of wealth. But for the vast
- 16:27Speaker 2: majority of those folks, what I have to convince them
- 16:30Speaker 2: of is, as concerned as you are about that next
- 16:33Speaker 2: stock market crash, which we will get, and as great
- 16:36Speaker 2: as it's been for the last five years, who knows
- 16:38Speaker 2: what the next five years bring, you need to be
- 16:42Speaker 2: at least as concerned about the pressure of inflation on
- 16:45Speaker 2: this bucket of money and what that's going to do.
- 16:48Speaker 2: And if you reverse course too much because you're retiring
- 16:51Speaker 2: and you're nervous about things, then yeah, maybe you don't
- 16:54Speaker 2: have a problem with the stock next stock market crash,
- 16:57Speaker 2: but what happens to your scenario of inflation runs a
- 16:59Speaker 2: percentage point higher than you're anticipating as you approach that
- 17:05Speaker 2: period of time where you will no longer be saving
- 17:07Speaker 2: for your future. Looking at this stuff with a critical
- 17:11Speaker 2: eye and going beyond the simple sixty forty or target
- 17:16Speaker 2: date retirement fund to address your specific scenario is very
- 17:21Speaker 2: important if you have questions along those lines and you'd
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- 18:09Speaker 2: Auto insurance premiums saw massive increases during COVID because of
- 18:13Speaker 2: a few different factors, one being sorry it wasn't actually
- 18:17Speaker 2: during COVID. Premiums fell during COVID because nobody was driving.
- 18:21Speaker 2: Therefore there were no accidents. But after COVID, when car
- 18:26Speaker 2: prices went through the roof parts replacement parts were tough
- 18:29Speaker 2: to get a hold of, and prices generally went up
- 18:32Speaker 2: for both new and used cars. Insurance premiums followed suit
- 18:35Speaker 2: because making those repairs became increasingly expensive to do. So
- 18:40Speaker 2: I didn't want to misqualify that, but what we are
- 18:43Speaker 2: seeing this year is after those premiums readjusted to the
- 18:46Speaker 2: new normal, you're actually seeing insurers making a heavy bit,
- 18:50Speaker 2: a fair bit of change on how much they are
- 18:53Speaker 2: collecting in premiums compared to how much they're paying out,
- 18:56Speaker 2: and so they are actually lowering premiums here and there.
- 18:59Speaker 2: What this means for the average person it may pay
- 19:02Speaker 2: to shop around more than it has over the last
- 19:05Speaker 2: few years when it comes to auto insurance. Obviously this
- 19:07Speaker 2: is hyper localized and hyper specific based on your own
- 19:11Speaker 2: driving history. But the piece here from the Wall Street
- 19:14Speaker 2: Journal sites that the loss costs and claims expenses as
- 19:18Speaker 2: a percentage of premiums are in the low to high
- 19:21Speaker 2: eighty percent range, whereas typically they're targeting around ninety, meaning
- 19:26Speaker 2: these insurers are trying to expand and grow their business
- 19:29Speaker 2: quick break Wall Street Watch and Dan Stack from the
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- 19:58Speaker 5: Our markets are negative territory, led by a selloff in
- 20:01Speaker 5: tech due to pressure from rising treasury yields, as the
- 20:04Speaker 5: three year that a new nineteen year high. Right now,
- 20:07Speaker 5: the dows down a quarter of a percenter, one hundred
- 20:10Speaker 5: and twenty points lower, SMP five hundred down six tens
- 20:13Speaker 5: of one percent of forty six points lower, Nasdaq selling
- 20:16Speaker 5: off one in a quarter percent or three hundred and
- 20:18Speaker 5: thirty one points lower. Rush two thousand down over one percent.
- 20:22Speaker 5: Ten year treasure reil flat at the moment at four
- 20:24Speaker 5: point seventy two percent, and oil up over one percent
- 20:28Speaker 5: now training at eighty five dollars a barrel. Home Depot
- 20:31Speaker 5: shares are rising over half a percent after the home
- 20:33Speaker 5: improvement retailer beat second quarter expectations on the top and
- 20:37Speaker 5: bottom lines and reaffirmed its full year of guidance. The
- 20:40Speaker 5: company's CFO told CNBC that it continues to operate in
- 20:45Speaker 5: frozen housing market conditions. We'll see more retailer earnings tomorrow
- 20:49Speaker 5: morning ahead of the open where lows Target TJX will
- 20:53Speaker 5: post their second quarter earnings. Meanwhile, several memory chip makers
- 20:57Speaker 5: pulling back from yesterday's gains. Micron Technology selling off seven percent,
- 21:02Speaker 5: while sk Heinex and sand Disk are falling by eight percent.
- 21:07Speaker 5: And according to the information ev maker Tesla is ready
- 21:10Speaker 5: for an August launch of its cyber cab or a
- 21:14Speaker 5: robo taxi without a steering wheel. Tesla stock is down
- 21:18Speaker 5: over half a percent. I'm Tucker Silvan, that is Wall
- 21:22Speaker 5: Street Watch.
- 21:23Speaker 2: Joining us now is Dan Stack from the Disabled American
- 21:27Speaker 2: Veterans Department of Massachusetts talk to us about the upcoming
- 21:31Speaker 2: race and other events. Dan, thanks for coming on. Appreciate it.
- 21:34Speaker 6: Mike as always really appreciate your having me. Thank you
- 21:37Speaker 6: very much.
- 21:38Speaker 2: So first things first, Dan, I have to check my calendar.
- 21:41Speaker 2: It's mid August and yet you managed to sell out
- 21:46Speaker 2: the race for the DAV five k in November. We
- 21:51Speaker 2: are months away here and it is filled. What makes
- 21:56Speaker 2: this race so special to people because clearly you know
- 21:59Speaker 2: it's gathering in US enough attention to sell out months
- 22:02Speaker 2: ahead of time.
- 22:04Speaker 6: I think if you have attended any of the past events,
- 22:07Speaker 6: and this is our sixth consecutive Sello, you feel that
- 22:11Speaker 6: euphoria that the public gives in regards to their appreciation
- 22:16Speaker 6: for what veterans have done, and especially this year, the
- 22:20Speaker 6: two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, I think that helped sell
- 22:24Speaker 6: this out more than anything else. It really, I mean,
- 22:27Speaker 6: fifty four percent of everyone who has basically coming to
- 22:32Speaker 6: this race is someone who has been there before. We
- 22:35Speaker 6: have three hundred and seventy five veterans that are coming.
- 22:39Speaker 6: It's just an amazing event where I know myself, my
- 22:43Speaker 6: entire family, and you know, it's very powerful that they
- 22:47Speaker 6: have pride in what their father has done in his
- 22:50Speaker 6: service to the country, and they're kind of like fulfilling
- 22:53Speaker 6: the fact that, hey, we want to show appreciation not
- 22:56Speaker 6: only to our fathers, but to all veterans that have
- 22:59Speaker 6: served this country over these two hundred and fifty years
- 23:03Speaker 6: that we have been in existence. So's it's an amazing,
- 23:07Speaker 6: amazing event and we were really proud to say that,
- 23:10Speaker 6: you know, it sold out eighty two days in advance,
- 23:14Speaker 6: and that eighty two days is because everyone got clicked
- 23:18Speaker 6: that button when they got the invitation and said yes,
- 23:22Speaker 6: I want to participate in the DAB five Day on
- 23:24Speaker 6: November the seventh at Castle Island.
- 23:27Speaker 2: So Dan, I know it sold out. I know people
- 23:29Speaker 2: cannot still register to race on November seventh, but I
- 23:33Speaker 2: do still want to talk about the event because you're
- 23:35Speaker 2: going to continue to do it for years to come,
- 23:37Speaker 2: and it is just an awesome event to even come
- 23:39Speaker 2: spectate down in Boston at Castle Island for those who
- 23:43Speaker 2: have not been to this specific space, you know, Ford
- 23:47Speaker 2: Independence at Castle Island a pretty special spot right in
- 23:50Speaker 2: the Boston Harbor. But talk to me about the event itself,
- 23:53Speaker 2: what goes on there. I could, I could do it,
- 23:56Speaker 2: but I'd rather you tell me about the you know,
- 23:58Speaker 2: the howitzer cannons, the fireboats that are out there. Pretty
- 24:02Speaker 2: special stuff that happens.
- 24:04Speaker 6: Well, you know, last year, unfortunately the howitzers weren't able
- 24:08Speaker 6: to be there because of the quote budget deficiencies that
- 24:12Speaker 6: were going on. You know, actually they happened to be
- 24:16Speaker 6: There was no money in the government at that time.
- 24:18Speaker 6: There was a shutdown, so we were very thankful that
- 24:22Speaker 6: the Conquered mine Man came down, you know, and they
- 24:25Speaker 6: actually started us off and shot and they're going to
- 24:29Speaker 6: be back this year. Along with the Howarzers we out
- 24:33Speaker 6: in the bay. We have the Boston fireboat that comes
- 24:36Speaker 6: out the Boston Fire Department hangs the huge flag at
- 24:40Speaker 6: the end of the causeway that everybody runs under. You know.
- 24:45Speaker 6: Not only that, one of the nicest part about our
- 24:48Speaker 6: five day is all of the food vendors that come out.
- 24:52Speaker 6: We have you know, Wahlbergers, the sausage guy. I can't
- 24:57Speaker 6: even name everybody that's there by me. We have all
- 25:00Speaker 6: of these individuals that come out and participate and provide
- 25:04Speaker 6: free food to all of the participates and their guests
- 25:08Speaker 6: that are there. It really is a family event. We
- 25:12Speaker 6: see more and more families coming to it. I'd love
- 25:16Speaker 6: to see how they all take their pictures after they
- 25:19Speaker 6: run with their families by, you know, with the Dad
- 25:22Speaker 6: sign behind it. You know, I love the solemn part
- 25:27Speaker 6: of everyone. You can see the veterans as they are passing,
- 25:31Speaker 6: the Heroes on the Hill, the Lou Pasqually Heroes on
- 25:34Speaker 6: the Hill, how they stop and salute all of the
- 25:37Speaker 6: flags representing all of the past veterans that have passed
- 25:40Speaker 6: over the last years. So I mean, yeah, it's an
- 25:44Speaker 6: amazing event. There's something to do the whole time you
- 25:46Speaker 6: were there, plenty of food to provide it. So we're
- 25:50Speaker 6: really excited about what's going to be happening this year
- 25:53Speaker 6: on November.
- 25:54Speaker 2: Seventh, it is dan a Run to honor veterans. Obviously
- 25:57Speaker 2: a lot of non veterans, non military, are running in
- 26:01Speaker 2: the event every year, but I saw that you had
- 26:02Speaker 2: some four hundred veterans that are actually registered to race
- 26:06Speaker 2: that this year. It does really speak to something. I
- 26:09Speaker 2: know you've seen growth from run clubs and universities who
- 26:13Speaker 2: have their cross country teams going, but you know, four
- 26:17Speaker 2: hundred veterans actually registered and really seems to show the
- 26:20Speaker 2: commitment that your team has to supporting this this specific
- 26:24Speaker 2: group here in Massachusetts. It's quite a thing.
- 26:27Speaker 6: One of the things about veterans period is when they
- 26:31Speaker 6: believe in the cause, they will support it. And to
- 26:34Speaker 6: have that have almost one third of everybody that is
- 26:37Speaker 6: going to be running to be veterans with their families,
- 26:42Speaker 6: that does an awful lot. And the DAV is a
- 26:44Speaker 6: very proud organization. We've been in existence over one hundred years.
- 26:48Speaker 6: We work very hard to make sure that the veterans
- 26:52Speaker 6: that we service are well taken care of, whether it
- 26:55Speaker 6: be their claims that have to go before the Veterans
- 26:58Speaker 6: Administration to make sure that they are properly adjudicated and
- 27:02Speaker 6: they received the exact compensation they're entitled to, or to
- 27:06Speaker 6: the twenty three and a half trips around New York
- 27:09Speaker 6: we have done with our transportation program to make sure
- 27:13Speaker 6: veterans get to and from their VA medical appointments, or
- 27:18Speaker 6: the mere fact that we have over in massitude two
- 27:21Speaker 6: hundred volunteer two hundred and fifty volunteers at all of
- 27:24Speaker 6: our VA medical centers that have given over twenty five
- 27:27Speaker 6: thousand powers of volunteerism. This really has saved the Veterans
- 27:32Speaker 6: Administration over a million dollars by us helping them make
- 27:37Speaker 6: sure that the veterans in our healthcare system are well
- 27:40Speaker 6: taken care of. So I am very proud to be
- 27:43Speaker 6: the chief executive Officer of the DAD Department of Massachusetts.
- 27:47Speaker 6: I know all that we do. Our volunteers and our
- 27:50Speaker 6: staff are out there every single day trying to help
- 27:55Speaker 6: a veteran and make sure that their life and their
- 27:57Speaker 6: family's life are a little easier in the future.
- 28:01Speaker 2: Dan, I know our focus is and should and should
- 28:04Speaker 2: be on the DAV five K. You also have another
- 28:06Speaker 2: event going on pretty soon. The golf Tournament is coming
- 28:10Speaker 2: up here. What can you tell me about that upcoming event.
- 28:13Speaker 6: We are very fortunate to have the Applied Underwriters basically Invitational,
- 28:20Speaker 6: which benefits the disabled American veterans. It's our corporate golf tournament.
- 28:25Speaker 6: It's held at Granted Links Golf Club. Is going to
- 28:29Speaker 6: be this year, is going to be August the thirty first.
- 28:33Speaker 6: It's up. It's a couple of weeks away, but I
- 28:36Speaker 6: do have some still. I still have about five or
- 28:38Speaker 6: six openings for teams if they want to join us,
- 28:42Speaker 6: and they can basically go on to DA v m
- 28:45Speaker 6: A dot org and click on the link and that'll
- 28:48Speaker 6: bring them up to what they need in order to
- 28:51Speaker 6: register sign up. We are very grateful to all of
- 28:56Speaker 6: those that are are silver sponsors for the DAV Golf Tournament.
- 29:02Speaker 6: Our Solver Sponsors is a five thousand dollars contribution. But
- 29:07Speaker 6: not only do they get a team in the corporate event,
- 29:10Speaker 6: their name and logo was also placed on the DAD
- 29:13Speaker 6: five K road share, so you know it's a lasting
- 29:16Speaker 6: memory and they help benefit both the DAD golf tournament
- 29:20Speaker 6: the five K. So if you, if anybody is out
- 29:23Speaker 6: there that loves golf and loves supporting veterans and you
- 29:26Speaker 6: know you can get your corporation put a team in,
- 29:29Speaker 6: we would love to have you again. That DA v
- 29:33Speaker 6: M A dot org. Click on a link corporate golf
- 29:36Speaker 6: tournament for the Applied Underwriters Invitational.
- 29:40Speaker 2: Dan Stack from the Disabled American Veterans Department Masters, Dan,
- 29:44Speaker 2: thanks so much for being here. We everybody here at
- 29:47Speaker 2: the Financial Exchange is so proud of the work that
- 29:48Speaker 2: you get guys do and just so happy to partner
- 29:50Speaker 2: with your year after year. So thank you for being here,
- 29:53Speaker 2: Thanks for filling us in and we will talk again soon.
- 29:56Speaker 6: Hey, Mike, just my last little thank you to you personally,
- 30:00Speaker 6: but more than anything, the money matters to the Armstrong
- 30:04Speaker 6: Group and the Financial Exchange. We wouldn't have sold out
- 30:08Speaker 6: if you hadn't been able to constantly put our PSA
- 30:12Speaker 6: up on your radio stations letting everybody know what we do.
- 30:17Speaker 6: So again, thank you so much for everything that you
- 30:19Speaker 6: have done in helping us make sure that we can
- 30:22Speaker 6: assure that veteran lives are going to be a little
- 30:24Speaker 6: leasing in the state of Massachusetts because of what we do.
- 30:27Speaker 6: Thanks again, Mike.
- 30:28Speaker 2: Thanks Dan. That's Dan Stack again for the CEO of
- 30:31Speaker 2: the Disabled American Veterans Department of Massachusetts. We are going
- 30:34Speaker 2: to take a quick break here on the Financial Exchange.
- 30:36Speaker 2: We'll be right back with some Stack Roulette.
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- 31:18Speaker 5: Well, the twenty twenty six DAV five K Boston is
- 31:22Speaker 5: officially sold out. The race is set for Saturday, November
- 31:26Speaker 5: seventh at Fort Independence at Castle Island. But even if
- 31:30Speaker 5: you can't participate, you can still help our great American
- 31:33Speaker 5: heroes by making a donation.
- 31:34Speaker 1: Your gifts help.
- 31:35Speaker 5: Fund free rides to medical appointments for veterans, and the
- 31:38Speaker 5: nation's first dav ledhousing initiative providing homes for single veterans
- 31:43Speaker 5: in veteran families. Go to dav fivek dot Boston and
- 31:47Speaker 5: make your donation today. That's dav five k dot Boston.
- 31:51Speaker 2: What do you have for us for stack Roulette today?
- 31:54Speaker 3: Mark Mike.
- 31:54Speaker 4: Food inflation through July, the latest period for which we
- 31:57Speaker 4: have inflation figures is up about two percent one point
- 32:00Speaker 4: nine percent. The price of sugar and sweets, however, is
- 32:03Speaker 4: up twice that, nearly four percent three point seven percent.
- 32:07Speaker 4: So I'm rounding up a little bit.
- 32:09Speaker 2: Save America, bring down the cost of gummy sweets.
- 32:14Speaker 3: Raw sugar futures.
- 32:15Speaker 4: The reason I bring this up is Bloomberg printed a
- 32:18Speaker 4: story at eleven thirty raw sugar futures rising to their
- 32:20Speaker 4: highest level in more than a year. The most active
- 32:25Speaker 4: sugar contract rose as much as four point three percent.
- 32:27Speaker 4: I don't know how unusual a big a swing that is,
- 32:30Speaker 4: how large it is, but they make it sound sensationally large,
- 32:34Speaker 4: So I'm being dramatic. Prices in New York, the market
- 32:38Speaker 4: I guess in which these futures are traded up about
- 32:41Speaker 4: twenty percent in the past month, so no relief in sight.
- 32:45Speaker 2: Good thing we're all taking these GP ones because otherwise
- 32:48Speaker 2: grocier baskets would be pretty darn expensive. I don't know
- 32:52Speaker 2: if those weight loss drugs specifically help you out with
- 32:54Speaker 2: not being interested in sweets, but just it does more
- 32:59Speaker 2: than just your quan of food, because all of all
- 33:01Speaker 2: of the big food companies out there are kind of
- 33:03Speaker 2: shifting the formulas in there in their recipes to appeal
- 33:07Speaker 2: to people with you. In fact, sorry to completely diverge
- 33:10Speaker 2: from this, but I was driving by a restaurant in
- 33:13Speaker 2: my town the other day and I was, you know,
- 33:17Speaker 2: just parked at the traffic light, and I could see
- 33:18Speaker 2: inside the restaurant window and there's a little flyer on
- 33:20Speaker 2: the table, one of those like card flyers on the table,
- 33:24Speaker 2: and it was scan here to see our GLP. No,
- 33:29Speaker 2: it was are you on GLP ones? Scan here to
- 33:32Speaker 2: see our menu special menu?
- 33:35Speaker 1: Hm?
- 33:36Speaker 3: Smart, I guess so.
- 33:38Speaker 2: I've just never seen it so in your face before
- 33:42Speaker 2: in a restaurant like.
- 33:43Speaker 5: Was this a chain I zoom or is it just
- 33:46Speaker 5: a single.
- 33:47Speaker 2: Space restaurant, a single location restaurant in the town of
- 33:50Speaker 2: Needham and huh. I don't know. Am I wrong in
- 33:55Speaker 2: saying that I detected some shame early on from GLP
- 33:59Speaker 2: one users that like didn't want to talk about it
- 34:02Speaker 2: all that publicly, And has it now shifted from yeah,
- 34:06Speaker 2: some degree of embarrassment to oh, yeah, I'm on GLP ones,
- 34:09Speaker 2: I've lost a ton of weight, and I'm willing to
- 34:12Speaker 2: scan a QR code at my dining table in order
- 34:15Speaker 2: to browse the menu.
- 34:17Speaker 5: I just I think it's definitely way, way, way more
- 34:20Speaker 5: accepted than when it first came out.
- 34:22Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, it's.
- 34:24Speaker 5: Like celebrated now, which is you know, yeah, loss is great.
- 34:26Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I just I didn't expect it to be
- 34:29Speaker 2: so forward.
- 34:31Speaker 3: Like I kind of marketed in a restaurant.
- 34:34Speaker 2: In a restaurant, like I kind of expected, you know, hey,
- 34:37Speaker 2: check out our low calorie menu or you know, other items. No,
- 34:43Speaker 2: are you on GLP ones? Scan here for our special menu.
- 34:47Speaker 2: I thought that was very forward for a restaurant. But
- 34:50Speaker 2: I mean, there's a reason they do. It must be
- 34:52Speaker 2: working to some degree. But yeah, I just found that
- 34:55Speaker 2: fascinating and completely forgot about it until right now. You
- 34:59Speaker 2: seem like you want to say.
- 35:00Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about it. You're
- 35:05Speaker 4: so someone who's on the drug is trying to lose
- 35:08Speaker 4: weight there they may or may not be self conscious
- 35:11Speaker 4: to make them very conspicuously scan a code. It's it's
- 35:16Speaker 4: a it's a public declaration that I'm on a drug
- 35:20Speaker 4: from weight loss, but it's it also should be like encouraged,
- 35:25Speaker 4: like we celebrate when people wear a nicotine patch or
- 35:28Speaker 4: I guess these days take a take something to wean
- 35:32Speaker 4: you off.
- 35:32Speaker 3: I guess it says we need to change.
- 35:35Speaker 4: Our It should not be shamed because we want to,
- 35:38Speaker 4: if only to get my own insurance premiums down. I
- 35:40Speaker 4: want to encourage anybody who thinks that they're overweight to
- 35:42Speaker 4: lose weight.
- 35:43Speaker 2: And like, you know, does anybody feel shame about being
- 35:46Speaker 2: on a statin? That's sort of what that's.
- 35:47Speaker 4: Kind of what I mean being overweight is you're probably predisposed.
- 35:52Speaker 4: Many people are anyway, It's absoltely nothing to be embarrassed about.
- 35:56Speaker 2: On board, Yeah, I think we need to just I
- 35:58Speaker 2: guess it was surprised, not distaste or anything like that.
- 36:02Speaker 2: I was just surprised that the company that the restaurant decided, Yeah,
- 36:06Speaker 2: this is something we want to be very public because.
- 36:09Speaker 4: It's impolite to comment on somebody's weight. It's not impolite
- 36:11Speaker 4: to say, hey, quit smoking. It might be a little
- 36:14Speaker 4: bit impolite to say, hey, you lost weight, and.
- 36:16Speaker 2: You know what is better than going to the table
- 36:18Speaker 2: and be like, oh, that person could use our low
- 36:22Speaker 2: calorie menu. Maybe I should ask them.
- 36:23Speaker 3: Maybe that.
- 36:27Speaker 2: Airlines are in a standoff over price cuts as jet
- 36:30Speaker 2: fuel costs are easing a bit here, I don't think
- 36:35Speaker 2: they're going to be price cutting any time all that soon,
- 36:38Speaker 2: because as much as we have seen jet fuel prices
- 36:41Speaker 2: ease over the last few weeks a little bit. Is
- 36:43Speaker 2: there anyone that is sitting here today looking about looking
- 36:47Speaker 2: around at the situation in Iran and saying, hey, you
- 36:50Speaker 2: know what, that seems stable enough that I'd be willing
- 36:52Speaker 2: to lock in lower profits on airline tickets or gas
- 36:58Speaker 2: prices for the next six months. That I'm pretty convinced
- 37:01Speaker 2: we're going to see energy prices calm down over the
- 37:04Speaker 2: next six months. Because I'm certainly not confident. I don't
- 37:06Speaker 2: know why an airline executive would be. Do you feel confident?
- 37:10Speaker 4: No, of course, not that energy prices are gonna stay
- 37:14Speaker 4: where they are come down. Yeah, No, I feel sounds
- 37:18Speaker 4: like a foolish view.
- 37:20Speaker 2: So, yeah, they have eased a little bit recently, airlines
- 37:24Speaker 2: don't seem to be moving on ticket prices. Furthermore, the
- 37:29Speaker 2: you know, kind of first company to cut on prices
- 37:32Speaker 2: spirit airlines doesn't exist anymore. So I don't see a
- 37:35Speaker 2: lot of domestic pressure for that to happen. So unfortunately,
- 37:39Speaker 2: I just don't see much of a case for gas
- 37:41Speaker 2: prices to come down, airline tickets or anything that's really
- 37:45Speaker 2: a petroleum derivative to to help us outime.
- 37:48Speaker 3: If they stay where they are.
- 37:49Speaker 4: Of course, the implications for the bigger picture are positive.
- 37:53Speaker 3: We're not gonna get more inflation. Yeah, that's stating the obvious.
- 37:56Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't mean airline tickets are gonna come down.
- 37:59Speaker 2: Stocks remain in negative territory here. As we close out
- 38:02Speaker 2: the show, Dow off quarter of percent now s and
- 38:05Speaker 2: p off half a percent. Now's back down a little
- 38:07Speaker 2: bit more than one percent. We'll be back at it
- 38:09Speaker 2: tomorrow with more earnings. Have a great rest of your day, folks,
- 38:13Speaker 2: and see you in twenty two hours.