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The Morning Call Show with Bob Sellers and Jerry Burke · Profits & Politics

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_01: Morning, folks.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Morning Call Show.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm Bob Sellers.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: I am now the editor of Profitsandpolitics.com, and also I am the co-host of this brand new podcast that we're doing every morning.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_01: And a former anchor at CNBC and at Fox News.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_01: I've kind of seen a lot of stuff, and I've seen a lot of it with my colleague here, Jerry Burke.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: Jerry.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm an old hand too and executive producer at uh Newsmax, Fox News, CNBC.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh before that, I was in tabloid with uh Inside Edition and The Current Affair and Hard Copy and Extra out in L out in LA.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: So uh I've got a couple of stories for you, and I'm gonna throw them at you, but in no no particular way.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_01: What's up, stories too?
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: We haven't talked ahead of time, but just to let people know what we're trying to do here.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to interrupt you, Jerry, but no, please.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's like we're trying to take a look at what are the big stories.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like typically in a morning in an editorial room, uh before a show, uh, you would have this meeting, uh, or you would have a call, or both, and you'd go over the stories of the day.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: Now, what we're trying to do is not only go over the stories, but kind of take a look at how are they gonna be covered?
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_01: Because you're not seeing the whole story from Fox, you're not seeing the whole story from MS Now.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and we kind of want to give our take on it so that you can be uh a smart viewer, put it that way.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's ideal, and and we're gonna throw in some stories.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I can get the day started.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: I got a bunch of stories on the little one down here that I have.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I was thinking about what you were talking about, like left, center, right.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what what angle?
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: You remember when I went out in the field, when I would go up to somebody's door and knock, the first question always was, yeah, but what's your angle?
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like the viewer is just as smart as the reporter, and oftentimes smarter.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: Some of the dumbest people I've ever met in my life worked in the news business.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um so, but going back to the fair and balanced issue, I decided to check out Drudge because the Drudge report used to be like the go-to for conservative news anyway.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: Conservative, yeah.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: But now you wouldn't recognize the website.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, every single story is anti-Trump, anti-conservative, and uh, and all he does is repost links that he found somewhere else.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: But so I figured I'd take a look at him and see what he's talking about.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: One of his top stories was from CNN, um, and it's uh about Trump.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh at every fork in the road in Iran, Trump's choices get worse.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: President Donald Trump has arrived at yet another fork in the road in Iran, but each time he reaches such a point, his options only become more narrow and the cost of any course of action grow.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: So they they're pointing to the fact that after 13 nights, straight nights of bombing, they he took a pause.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: And for the last three nights, it's been peaceful and quiet.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: And they're trying to restart the diplomatic talks.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: You know, but it sounds, you know, just looking at it, and I know it was written with a jaundice eye, but really there's got to be some exhaustion setting in among the viewership and among just the citizens across the country.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I I talked to a lot of people in the the mega sphere, if you will, and a lot of them are moving on.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of them are like, okay, what's next?
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: Because he hasn't delivered on everything you talked about.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: Closing the border, love it.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh trying to keep taxes low, love it, although it seems like it's benefiting a lot of people at the top.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: But the war, uh, the inflation, and don't fool yourselves, folks.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the inflation is at least in part because of what's happened to oil in the Middle East.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: So uh I think he he does have a problem.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and I don't know if you watched it Friday night, but Trump didn't have the same energy.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_01: This doesn't look like the same guy that uh was there.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_01: And and in defense, by the way, of him picking on Caitlin Collins.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: Look, maybe it's because uh I've been a journalist for a while, but he cannot like her.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_01: I think he has a problem with strong women.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: So let me show you something.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: I I didn't go to this year's uh White House correspondence center, but I did go to last year, and I wanted to share here's a pick from last year with Caitlyn Collins, who by the way came up to me and said we had a a mutual friend, and I didn't even know who that uh friend was, but it's the first time I talked to her, and she was delightful and uh she does a hard job and getting criticized.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: You're talking about the White You're talking about the White House correspondence dinner?
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_01: Correspondence dinner on Friday.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, I just wanted to store that in defense because um I think Trump does uh is in a position right now.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of his supporters are like, okay, let's move on, let's see if we can get out of Iraq.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh let's see if we can improve uh the gas prices, and even more importantly, Jerry, grocery prices.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I think distraction now, something that's happening today on Wall Street, because of the uh activity uh uh going down over there right now, uh the stock market has actually gone up and oil prices have come down.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: That's good for you and me because all of that does have an effect on prices because it gets passed through in the higher oil prices.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of products you have to transport them.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and of course, we all experience gas prices, but um, so yeah, I think you're right.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_01: I think um um Iran has not been a gift to him.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_00: I have to I have to uh double back on something that you said about I don't think Trump is intimidated by strong women.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um he's surrounded, he's surrounded himself with that's true.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know, every one of his press uh spokespersons have been women, you know.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: Think about it, going all the way back.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: That's true, but he doesn't like to be challenged by strong women.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Trump only likes people who like him.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: He says it.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not the one saying that.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, he's not the only one in the world who's like that, right?
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_01: If somebody likes me, I I'm probably gonna like them.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: I I just uh as somebody who's been in the press uh a good part of his life, um, I I understand how politicians are trying to convince you it's the fake media, because then if there's something bad about them, they could say, Oh, that's all fake.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: You shouldn't believe a thing you see.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I see this amongst my friends.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_01: But getting uh back to my my premise, I really think a lot of people uh in in the MAGA world are starting to look forward.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, another story that popped up over the weekend, um, this headline here from the Daily Mail uh a Lebanese German uh ISIS terrorist, they call him, who plowed into the pride parade over there, killing one and injuring 29 is shot dead.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: So now the kerfuffle was about the calling him a Lebanese German, ISIS terrorist, because he was born in Germany.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so he's a German, you know, he's not not not a Lebanese German, like he didn't his parents might have been from Lebanon, but you know, the uh they I guess the headline was better if you put the word Lebanese German in there.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, okay, what did he yell before he did it?
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: Allah Akbar, that famous phrase.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so let me be a little indelicate, but uh we want to be honest with the people that watch us.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, part of what's part of the problem in Europe is that the proximity of what's going on with some of these people moving into other countries from the Middle East, let's say, and not assimilating, but bringing their culture into areas where they didn't have that.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's one of the fears that you see, especially for conservatives here in the United States, right?
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: And so there it's more proximate, right?
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and and so that's why you see countries like Switzerland basically saying, if you're not from here, you know, you got a lot of steps to go through before you're part of us.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and I think part of the problem in Europe, especially Western Europe, is people moving in and not assimilating.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's like if you want to come in, work hard, earn your way, uh, and and go into Western values, that's fine.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: Now, the guy that cuts my hairs from Iran, I've mentioned him before that he he left the country after they threatened to cut off his hands uh for coloring a woman's hair.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he has told me how these people come from other countries into Iran.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: This is his account, okay?
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: I don't live there.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: He literally has family living there, and he says they don't assimilate, they become part of the the government will support them by telling them, yeah, you can go out, and anybody that poses opposes us, you can go take their stuff.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: So that's just an anecdote.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: As a journalist, I wouldn't go on the air with that, but I'm just trying to be real with folks.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the the the problem that you have in place is that the reason they wrote that, a Lebanese German, is to identify is I think that's a wink wink, don't you?
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: Is ethnicity I I get stories too, Jared.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to bring one up.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I'm bringing this up because I know both of these people, and it's made a lot, it's gotten a lot of attention online.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, Brooke Baldwin and Megan Kelly.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: You use the word kerfuffle.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um there there was a story out um that came out about Brooke.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: She put out a story, I guess, on her Substack.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so here's here's part of it.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she was talking about some things that she was going through personally, and that title there um implied, and a lot of people inferred.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: I hope you're impressed that I used that.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um diagram that sentence.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: I used to be good at that, by the way.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um it was too.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_01: And any effect, anyway.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um Brooke, who I used to work with at Fox Five here in DC, uh, and a delightful, smart, engaging person, and I like Brooke a lot.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she wrote a story that was about her personal life, what was going on, and about how she had met these uh attractive men.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_01: And the point of the story was literally that she did not choose to engage with them uh on a casual sex level.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: Now I'm always leery of two men talking about another woman, okay?
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm just trying to present this uh the best we know it.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the problem Brooke had was that a lot of people thought that she was saying she did have casual sex with like four men in a month, describing who they were and not by name, but by power and position.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_01: And Megan Kelly on her show um criticized.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: And now you and I both worked with Megan, smart woman, uh accomplished, and again, uh someone I consider a friend.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: But what this says to me, she laid it open to these three guys who were on her show to to picket Brooke and to make fun of uh what she had done, what she had become.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, look, Brooke used to be this uh yeah uh good, proper person, and look what she's doing now.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_01: It was based on a fallacy, and that's the point, and that's the reason we're talking about it, is so much of that goes on now in the media that you got to be careful when you see something that may not be as it's because you you trust someone like Megan.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: I remember when she was hired at Fox to begin with, she was the Justice Department correspondent, and she used to break down all the Supreme Court decisions, and she was a very thorough reporter.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: And it sounds like she did nine minutes on on her show about uh uh the CNN reporter, but um, like it was it came across as if she didn't even read the article.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_01: I I think that may have happened.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think she did an update uh um indicating that she may not have gotten the the conclusion uh quite accurate, but she still stood by some of her observations.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: Again, I am summarizing.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: My only warning is to folks to to be careful when you see something.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, there are times that my wife says, Hey, is it true that so-and-so is going on?
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll ask her, what's your source?
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: Where are you seeing that?
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: You know, probably three out of four times, it's like, well, that's not exactly what's happening.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yet that takes on a life of its own, Jerry.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: And the thing with Brooke, and I feel bad for her, is like she said, millions of people watch Megan.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_01: And so millions of people have that impression of Brooke.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: And what what do they say?
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: Where do I go to get my reputation back?
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: So well, I just want to inform you that for the purposes of this segment only, I am identifying as a woman.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, that that's important.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I because most of our segments we do have to self-identify before we leave.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: We do.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, good.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: Then at least we have a proper mix.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we do.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: We've got something.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh okay.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: What else you got?
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: You got anything else?
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, okay.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'll tell you what else I have.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I wrote this.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I mentioned before, I'm editor of uh profitsandpolitics.com.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's a new website.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: Set up launch.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh folks, go take a look, see if you like it.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it's kind of a look at Wall Street and Washington from Main Street's view.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know, uh, we don't idolize them, we try to hold them accountable.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: So the story that I wrote was uh hiring related to AI.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: We all expected that uh hiring would collapse, but in fact, hiring related to AI is going up, and that surprised a lot of people.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh there's some big companies now that are hiring people in order to work with AI.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: And so the the fear that it was going to cost everybody their jobs, maybe not.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe if you're working with AI, it'll turn out.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I'll try the the um the title that I put on is AI was supposed to take our jobs.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: So I asked AI what happened, and I did.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: So this morning I I I asked AI.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, I gave it the the Wall Street Journal article and I gave my own observations, and it made some comments which I shared, and then I made my own observations.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: They call errors on um on AI, they call them hallucinations.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: So we're getting a lot of hallucinations in AI, and that's one of them.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they had a hallucination this week.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: Everything's a little different now than it's an interesting story, I think.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh um on what's going on there.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I have another story uh critiquing them on critiquing the media.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: The New York Times the New York Times over the weekend included ex-Venezuelan leader Nicholas Maduro on its most stylish list.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, wow.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I've I've seen the dude being perp walked as they call it.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_01: I was just gonna say, isn't he wearing orange now?
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, orange is the new black.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: But but what did it say?
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: I I didn't see that.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a little surprised.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, I mean, I'm not surprised, but I am surprised.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: But and you know why it's provocative and it has people talking.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly right.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: And there's the headline there with the oh my goodness.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: The uh yeah, I mean, come on.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh okay.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: And then it said that the first sentence says they raised eyebrows after it included ousted Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro on its most stylish list before quickly backtracking.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you can see why they would, but this is what gets me, Jerry.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: Is you we used to work on the same show together, right?
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: And you would say, Bob, I'm gonna save you from yourself, and you tell me not to do something.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: So, um, how did this get through the layers of editing?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: There are no layers anymore.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's like we need to feed the beast, the beast being the the you know, website, the platform, and so it probably got up there, and then somebody, what they put what no, that wasn't supposed to go, and and then they had the backtrack because of very few layers of well, because most the the viewership out there and the readership, they watch movies like you know, uh all the king's men and stuff like that, the you know, all the president's men, uh, and they they see Dustin Hoffman and Robert Redford, and they're arguing with their editor, and there's like this, yeah, yeah.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: There's like all these layers of authority that you have to get through and double check and verify.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's not like that at all.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's not like that anymore.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: It may have been, yeah, but it's not anymore.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I've got another one.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it kind of relates to okay.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: The Fed is meeting on Wednesday, okay?
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and I think Wednesday also Rand Paul has uh Anthony Fauci up on oh yeah, that's gonna be interesting.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll just give this quick before we get to that Rand Paul versus and then this quarter.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um I did want to talk about the Fed meeting.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of people are concerned about inflation and thinking, well, would the Fed raise interest rates, which I don't think it's gonna do.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: But one of the things that people watch uh nowadays is Calci, the betting markets, to see what's gonna happen.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: And they're doing that for political races, they're doing that for is the Fed gonna raise or lower interest rates?
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: Right, and I have heard people say that Calchi and the betting markets are taking the place of polls.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I know you know a lot about polls, so do I.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: Here's the problem I have with that conclusion.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: For a small amount of money, people would be able to enter the Calci betting market and get people to think something and possibly influence the outcome.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right in the same way, by the way, that polls um get released a lot of times for somebody to drive their narrative.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, look, we're doing great, we're ahead by 15 points.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_01: And that may not be quite, and you have to look at, you know, how many Democrats, how many Republicans, how many independent, all that stuff that's the footer material.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and the the political people will release that to try to influence, but we know they can be wrong because we saw what happened with Hillary and with uh Trump in 2016.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would make the argument that and by the way, folks, just so you know, if if a politician really wants real nitty-gritty information, they pay a lot of money, and pollsters are quite able to go in and find out how are people really voting?
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, are they gonna burn out?
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: It just costs a lot, and it and it's a lot more detail.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: Those a lot of times, those are ones that Jerry, you and I don't see.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: Now, Roger Ayles was obsessed with polling, and the Fox News poll, the pollster that who I knew, a lovely woman, uh Dana Blanton, I think her name was.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um it was subjected to the most rigorous stress tests of all I've ever seen, you know.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: They were nuts about it, and they were pretty spot on.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, it got them in trouble.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, the people that did do the job uh in uh 2020, a lot of people were upset that they called Arizona what they felt was too soon.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what was that about?
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they were right.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um it I feel like if we go down that road uh spend an hour on it, we could address it another.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: I've been in three depositions over that, so I'd rather not.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: I've been in two, so yeah, um, and and by the way, we were on the well, let's just leave it there.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh um, you've got Rand Paul, the senator, who really seems to have it out for Anthony Fauci.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know how you feel about this, but this is going to be interesting because Fauci's been pardoned, right?
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so the I think legally uh Rand Paul can say, you can't avoid and not answer.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: You have to answer.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: You've already been pardoned, and you are responsible for gain of function research that led to powerful viruses that got out of hand, and you lied to the American people about how it happened, and all you cared about is how you were being covered in the press.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: And that's kind of what I see coming up.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be fireworks because I I've never seen anyone worked up over Fauci as much as Rand Paul has been.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, the smoking gun has has been released already.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's they have Rand Paul has uh has Anthony Fauci's diary, private diaries.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and in the diary, he admits in January of 2020, he admits because I in my head, I remember COVID hitting like by St.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: Patrick's Day of 2020, March, the middle of March.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: I remember that because that was like the last night.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's when it really came down, yeah.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was that's when it really came down.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: So you're telling me three months previous to that, Fauci already knew he writes in his diary, well, now we know it didn't come from the wet market.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and yet that's what he was gone with.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: And Jerry, I remember January covering that with you because there was a plane coming in from China, I think it's from Wuhan.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: Wuhan, that's right.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: And you were all over it.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: You said the plane's coming in.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: If this is there's a virus on there, why are they being allowed to land?
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: And and by the way, I am convinced I had already had COVID because I had had uh all the symptoms and I didn't miss a day of work, but I was coughing like during three or four minutes between each segment.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: I was coughing.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: I got a rash, I got all kinds of stuff, yeah.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: And then got through it, and it's like, okay, I'm good to go.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um and Fauci, here's when his his credibility was lost for me.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_01: Early on, remember, he said, Yeah, you you should get these uh masks, uh, these masks will help you, and um um if you have a mask, it can help you get it from keep you from getting the virus.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_01: And then all of a sudden he said, Yeah, we don't need the mask, you don't need to get the mask.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: And then come to find out there was a shortage of shortage of masks, and the first responders and the the doctors and nurses, they all needed them.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: The fact that he was willing to change his story for whatever his narrative was, he lost credibility with me.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: Plus, I never believed the wet market story anyway, never made any sense.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: You mean to tell me all this is going on?
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: It made more sense.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it got out of a lab.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: The question to me, Jerry, was always did it get out of out of the lab by accident or on purpose, or on purpose, and we still haven't answered that, by the way.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, but for what purpose though?
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: What I don't get it.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: What was what was China's motive?
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you mean if that it if it had been on purpose?
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: I uh yeah, and then also a test run to see w what they could do to the American economy.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying that's what happened.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm saying the theory, if I if I posited the, you know, that that they wanted to do it on purpose.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: Another thing I worry I wondered about was, you know, Fauci, uh uh, it's been reported, uh, sent money to that lab for research.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they got yeah, he got money funded to that lab.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but did that mean were there any American scientists working in that lab?
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know the answer to that.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was an American group that was part of it being funded.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: And the the the question was, was it gain of function, which would take a virus and give it more power?
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: And Fauci said, no, it was not gain of function by his definition, but by other definitions, it was gain of function.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: And as a country, the argument goes, we shouldn't be funding gain of function, especially in Wuhan, China.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well, so you know, I was I was suspicious, as you know, from from January, you know, looking with horror as you know, China Airlines was landing a JFK, you know, five times a day from Wuhan.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, is anyone doing anything about this?
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: You were, and we were talking about it, but it didn't make a difference.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: They didn't do anything about it.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: But the thing for me, when I lost all hope, was when I saw Fauci sitting on the cover of InStyle magazine by a swimming pool in the backyard of some mansion somewhere.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh man, this guy thinks he's a movie star.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, apparently, according to his diary, he was really enjoying enjoying the attention.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's that diary's that a diary's gonna be the death of him.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, you see on Wednesday?
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it's gonna be uncomfortable because I I don't think he can avoid the questions, and Rand Paul has it out for him.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: So I think it's gonna be a popcorn moment, and this is one of the things we're trying to do in this is look ahead to stories to prepare for what we're gonna see.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I have anything else.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: No, that's all I got for today.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: Let me see if I have anything.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: Uh no, I think that's it.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: I I mean, maybe the only thing I would throw in there is where's Mitch McConnell?
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we should end every we should end every show with that.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: Hold up signs and say, Where are you, Mitch?
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: Where's Mitch?
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, 364 of the American hostages.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I think that um isn't it easy to prove you're alive?
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like just you know, right?
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he did.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: He tried to, he was in the hospital with the newspaper, and then somebody pointed out it was like all obviously photoshopped.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't believe that for a second, but uh and and if he's not doing well, that's fine.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but anyway, we don't know.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I guess that's our show for today.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think we covered a lot, threw in a few stories.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_01: Is it we're still trying to get the hang of this?
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's all good.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh what is what what is it called?
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: Live long and prosper?
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: Or oh yeah, live long and prosper.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's uh a mutual friend of ours.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh would correct that.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_01: But no, you have to do it with the left hand.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't know.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: But uh he knows who he is, and uh love knowing your room.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: We love him.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: All right, thank you, Bob.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'll talk to you in a bit.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: Come on, come on.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta end it, Jerry.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: Breaking news changes everything.