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Episode 3: The Kettle, The Commune & The Cannibal · Rumor Busters

• Rumor Busters Podcast: Hello. Welcome back to the Rumor Busters Podcast. Episode three. Becca and Ellie. Hi. And Kevin and Emma. Emma's here. Yay, Emma. Come on, honey. Come here. Come on. Come on, my nap. Sit down. There you go. Yes. What do you should woman? All right. Is everyone gonna stay put? Kevin, why don't you scoop back a little? Come on, Kev. There. Yeah. my god. Okay. Episode three, the office kettle, the commune, and the cannibal. It's a juicy mom. Do you want to give the update? Episode two reactions and our supporters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we've been having a lot of more a lot more people come up and tell us that they love our podcast. So we definitely won't be stopping anytime soon. Nope. I think we'll just keep getting better and then one day we'll be billionaires. So That's the plan. That's the goal. We'll see about that. I didn't really see any funny comments this time. Don't forget to comment on things, guys. Yeah, I did get one reaction. Actually, it wasn't really a reaction. It was one of the people who put in the story about the working at the grocery store and the crazy stalker person they came clean and they're like, That was me who wrote that. I'm like, my god, that is so funny. And She they were saying that they had to get their boss to like the boss told her to wa park in a different spot. and then she actually had to quit her job there because she was just so nervous about it, which is stupid and crazy because she really liked that job a whole lot. So that's Really, really, really rude and mean and to this day she still doesn't even know who the people were. So that's just too funny. It's crazy. Kinda remind me because at first when I was working there I had two guys that I They wanted the guys in the back. So I was just supposed to be up there all by myself. All the managers were in the back of the store as well. And I had an incident at two AM. Sales were down and the script. 'Cause they were trying to harass me. No no no. I will not be working all by myself. Yeah, that would be freaky, especially if you were up there all by yourself and everyone else that worked there was all in the back. Yeah. At 2 a.m. when Walmart used to be open. Yeah. All night. Was it open all night? Yeah. It used to be open twenty. Now it's what? Eleven? I think UFC's still the latest open. How late are they open till? I think two AM. my god, I didn't know that. No hours twenty four hours yet, though. That's so sad. Yeah. And you need to get something snack. yeah, we got mugs. We're officially podcast official. Rumor busters. And the back says, I probably shouldn't tell you this. We'll insert some close-up pictures like we did of Kevin last week. Yeah. And to our users, users, our listeners. who aren't watching but are only listening will post the pictures on our Instagram too so you can still see yeah yeah. 'Cause they're pretty cute. And these got to us like in a week. So if you need something fast, Canva's a good good thing to use. Also last week Kevin was wearing that Chucky T shirt. Well, I got them all matching Chucky Halloween outfits. All four dogs will have the same Chucky outfit with the knife and everything. So fun. That'll be What's coming next? today's submissions are all over the place. we've have office food crimes, a resume disaster, family drama, a paternity test, a connection to an infamous true crime case, and a story that gets genuinely unsettling. So stay tuned. everyone don't forget the ground rule reminders. all the stories are anonymous. Some details could be changed if you put information in there that might expose who you are. discussing what was submitted. we haven't independently verified any personal claims. So we're just reading like it could be real, it could be fake. So we're just reading what you wrote. On to story number one. And story number one kind of has a couple different stories within it. one. I heard a rumor once that people had been getting ill at work because someone had been secretly using the water boiler, meant for boiling water for coffee and etc., to boil their food for lunch. Other oddities, seeing someone pushing a piglet around in a pram. At the entrance to the office. It was in a part of town which seemed to attract characters, whatever that means. one place I worked at had a fundraiser where anyone could donate for a colleague to be given a surprise pie in the face at work. Similar methods were also used periodically at youth clubs I went to. The office did at least allow nominees to donate their way out of it. Despite several opportunities, I escaped nomination. Once getting a forty page long C V an application where the applicant had clearly spent hours tailoring their response to the job with far more information than needed. Unfortunately they got to put their name and address on it. That's too funny. Okay, let's unpack these. So when I when we first read that first one, I was kinda like, Wait, wouldn't you just get the boiling water out of the coffee pot? That's no big deal. But then after further investigation and thought in my brain, I'm pretty sure they mean that he was dumping his food in the boiling to the boiling water. what? Strains into the coffee. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. Like in the coffee, like either in the coffee pot boiling the food. Or, you know, the big coffee canisters that refill the coffee things. I think they might have been putting their food in there, like in the reservoir. Ooh. How else would they be getting sick if they were just pouring boiling water on their food? I just don't get that. Why why would you do that? Why wouldn't you just pour it into a bowl? I don't know. And heat it up in the microwave. You know for a fact they were getting sick and that's why they were getting sick because they were using the coffee thing that probably never gets clean. Ew, that is so gross. Like chunky. It's like crusted. There's like crust lines around where where they have leftover food from like two weeks ago. Sick. That is so gross. Yeah, and that's definitely was it in a bag? Was it just dumped in there? Some hard boiled eggs, and then somebody goes to pour their coffee next time and it just smells like farts. Like eggs. Hot dogs. Just having some hot dog water in your soup. I mean I could coffee. I could see soup though. But like like your hot pocket. You're just The plastic bag. You know, some of those like those frozen burritos where you have to leave it in the bag for it to like cook all the way. They just do that with the hot pockets all melted. Sick. Nasty. Yeah. Really interesting. And obviously it wasn't being cleaned. If they're all getting sick. Yep. Unless they have like an allergy to something that was put in there for some reason. And you end up getting eggs and then you're really allergic to eggs. Yeah. Hopefully somebody's got an epi pen. So I wonder though, were people actually getting sick, sick? Or did someone just decide that the weird kettle lunch was like responsible? They found out about it and they were like, I feel sick. So weird. people are so freaking weird. Yup. Yeah, the pig and the pram. that one little person in the story where they said the so they were got to work and then they looked towards the entrance and someone was pushing a piglet in a pram in a little cart. That'd be really cute though. Yeah. see would you rather kettle kettle chef I wrote chief by accident sorry I have dyslexia or the person bringing the pig to work pig to work duh I mean who wouldn't want to see a little baby piglet? So cute that would be literally so cute. I wonder if they think it's a mini pig and then it's actually just a baby and it grows to be five hundred pounds. That'd be really sad all the time. That would be really sad You g you get a little mini pig thinking it can live in your small little apartment. And then if like a year later it's five hundred pounds. Then you get evicted. There used to be this nurse, this traveling nurse, and she had a pig and she showed some pictures of it. He would, when she was at home, he would push her top mattress off and lay on the box spring. my gosh. Why? They're so weird. Why do they think ways that they think? I don't know. They are, they really are. Like what's that one lady who has the pig who has like the little like the queen bed next to her bed? They have a whole bedroom for it. my gosh. What's the name of her? Shelly knows the name. It is so cute though. She has like toys and like a little dresser and a closet. Yeah. What's the little pig piglet name? The house pig. the other office oddity number three, pyre coworker. I mean, that could be a great tangent. Like, I think that'd be fun. Who would you pie? Me. No. Probably the other person who lives in this house though. yeah. That's a good one. I would I'd do that too. That'd be fun. my gosh, what if we do a contest between install and service? And then they have to pie each other. And then they have to pie each other or they pay their way out if you've tied and then we can donate it somewhere. We could donate it to a good cause since nobody ever donates on our website. I mean really fun. Would either of us participate? Duh. Yeah, I totally would. Any work event that we have, we always want to participate in it. Yeah, that's fun. Always something fun to do at work. How much would you pay to pie me? In a face? I don't know, five bucks. Yeah, it's kind of the same. I don't think I'd go. I wouldn't pay like forty bucks to have someone get pied. That's a little extreme. How much would you donate to save yourself? Maybe at the at the most. Maybe fifty bucks. Just to support the cause. I don't think I'd care very much if I got pied in the face as long as I could wipe it off. I don't think airflow could survive a fundraiser, a pie fundraiser. I'm asking tomorrow in our all stack meeting. Okay. Who would participate? Would anyone participate in a pie throwing contest? No one's gonna raise their hand. They're all just gonna look. They're all just gonna laugh at you. It's just gonna be crickets. Like it is every every three months. Crickets. I'm the only one that ever talks. And and Becca. We can't even stand by each other just to throw everyone off. It yeah, we have to stand in between people who we would never never stand in between just to make it super awkward, just to like change things up. Gosh. Well, we want to get the energy around the whole room, not just one little square section of it. so office oddity number four. Let's talk about that forty page application. Beautiful, detailed, everything except they forgot their name and their address. And I don't know if they mean like the full home address or if it's like their email address so they can't even get contacted again. It's probably their email address. You know how many people will like I I don't know, they'll reach out to you and say, Hey, get a hold of me and then they won't even give you like their phone number or their email or anything. They'll like put in requests at work and we're like, How are we supposed to reply to you? Like you responded on Google and you didn't give us a number. Or like you you emailed us on Mitsubishi and your phone number's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. How are we supposed to call you? And then Mr. Smith at mrsmith.com, like that's not a legit email. So we're never gonna be able to reach you. Yeah, we all know sales. Unless you're just fishing. Yeah. You're just doing it for fun. Don't believe AI. Getting sick of that. Would you try and find them or contact them though? If like n I wouldn't. I mean I wouldn't like waste my time on it, but maybe like a try like a ten minute search. What kind of application was it though? I don't know. Like a job application? I mean, was it for like a CEO position? I don't know. Like a research position and they had to answer a bunch of like like an assessment like we send out now kinda, but it was like fill in the blank, you know? I mean, obviously they put a lot of work into it if they did a forty page application that was really nice and detailed and beautiful. Yeah. But yeah, what were they applying for? What would you possibly need to have forty pages of information about yourself? Do you Did they just tell about themselves from the day they were born to now? What do you think is the most unhinged office oddity? I think definitely cooking your food in the kettle, just willy-nilly. If you're gonna use the hot water, that's fine. I know. Don't just put the food in the water part and call it a day. It's like those people that you see on TikTok every once in a while who like live inside hotels and they show you how to cook things in the coffee kettle. Before they had cured eggs and stuff, when they just had the normal coffee kettles. There was this one, I think it was in 2020, there was this really famous. TikTok account and this girl would like cook salmon and stuff in her coffee kettle. Ew, that's just like having to go in that room and clean it, the smell of it. Ugh. Nasty. It's funny because the new girl, she's like, I'm sorry, I cooked salmon or I I heated up fish. And I'm like, Why are you sorry? She's like, Nicole told me you didn't like the smell of it. I'm like, Me? What? I don't even smell it. I'm like, sometimes things just like weird things gross me out, like weird smells, like people will like cook something kind of like gross and yeah, like something gross in the microwave and it just like just stinks and just like lingers. One time though, there was someone who left old crab or seafood or something in the garbage can and it didn't get cleaned out over the weekend by the housekeeper. And the next Monday we came in and the whole office smelt like rotten fish. Like it was dying in there. It was it was really bad. It was gross. That that was gross. But heating up or reheating stuff, I'm like, mm, whatever. Some things though do stink, but Yeah, there's a couple of times where I've said, I'm gonna start shop. Yeah. Because sometimes people do cook things like I said, like broccoli. And then it literally again smells like heart. Well, especially w when we used to work upstairs, everything would linger and it would go upstairs. All the smells, everything would be upstairs. Hey, quit licking your cooter. Hey, quit licking your cooter. Stop it. not that kind of yeah that's inappropriate, Emma. No, no, no. Sowie. won't yell at you again. I'm sorry. I know she was like, you put me in here. Heaven's like this is my week now. Yeah. It just passed out. thank you. Yeah, that's really gross after you just lift your hoo-ha, honey. It's really sick. So the next story is the commune. yeah. This is a really long one. Story two. where do I start? So I guess for background, my partner and I live in sort of a small commune situation with this family. We're all on one piece of property, but we're in separate structures and see each other all the time. There's my partner and I, his parents, his oldest brother's widow, not important to the story, but she does live here, and his older brother. Well, one day his brother tells Us his girlfriend is moving in. We didn't even know he had a girlfriend, and it's because they met a week before and she needed a place to crash, so he just let her in. From day one, none of us really liked her. She's rude, entitled, a chronic liar, and constantly disappears with brother's car and drains his bank accounts. my gosh. She's been caught in multiple lies. Some inconsensual and other pretty What is that? Egregious? I don't know what that means. She's also been cheating on him from the beginning with multiple men. And while he's been deep in denial, she's not subtle and it's been incredibly obvious. she got caught lying about being pregnant twice before she actually got pregnant, and we didn't even know if the baby was real until she started showing. That's crazy. Well, baby gets here and we're all a little suspicious. The baby looks nothing like her father. And we knew mom had disappeared for a week around the time she was conceived. my gosh. My in-laws bought a commercial a commercial paternity test, but held off on testing her until mom disappeared again after a huge fight because brother got a text from his old coworker with proof he was sleeping with her saying, I didn't know you were still together. Well, DNA comes back and he is absolutely not. The father. Gary Springer when we need him. Yeah. What is absolutely cuckoo bananas to all of us is that he forgave her and let her come back with the affair baby. I completely understand that he fell in love with the baby and is scared how she will turn out being raised alone by her mom, but she has not changed and has continued to take advantage of him. It's gotten to the point where their relationship has strained his relationship with his parents because she is no longer allowed in the community or communal. Family spaces. They are also the only ones who aren't paying rent and instead are constantly borrowing money from all of us to keep up with her spending habits. It's a huge mess, and I think we were all hoping he will eventually leave her, but after finding out the baby isn't his and not leaving none of us are holding our breath. Scary. Not leaving and none of us are holding our breath. if they got the paternity test after she gave birth and he already signed the birth certificate, I wonder if that would make it more difficult. I don't know leave. And like get your name off the birth certificate. But I don't think he wanted to get it off of the birth certificate. He loves her so That's crazy. that would that's a huge mess. I don't like that. But I mean also if his name is on the birth certificate, he could just try to go for full custody maybe. She's really got psycho. I mean I just don't get why Does she not have a job? Why is she taking all of his money? I don't think girls like that don't only have jobs. I think she's has some mental issues probably and should go to therapy and take some medication. Yeah, probably. Or maybe she's just a narcissist. Hi, honey. Are you getting tangled in the in the cords? Come here, sweetie. a good girl. So The brother announces, my girlfriend's moving in, everyone. What girlfriend? Then they'll reveal they met a week before. Stop. No. No. ever let someone move in after only knowing them for a week? I mean, yeah. Absolutely not. If I like hit it off really well, I mean, I guess it depends. Like if you just met them a week ago, probably not, but Like if you've known them for a couple months, maybe. I mean, if you guys hung out every day. I mean they had somewhere to go. Yeah. I think maybe. Not if they were like, you don't actually have a house, you've been living in your car. I mean, then I might feel bad actually. Not letting them in there forever. True. Taking advantage of you. That would be my that would be my thing. Like she is to him, obviously, their whole family. And I have to say those families are kind of enablers if they keep giving her giving them money to pay for her shit. Yes. What's wrong with them? Why are they giving her money? I mean, I could see him giving her her his money, but the p the family too? That just doesn't make any sense. What is wrong with you guys? Cuckoo bananas is right. Gosh. If your sibling did this, could you say something? It would be really hard, but yeah, I would. I don't have a sibling. I mean I do, but I don't. By the way, I just like seven years ago, six years ago, seven, six seven stupid. I found out that I had a sister, my mom's daughter. And she was adopted though. And my mom never told me about her because she felt, you know, really bad giving her up for adoption. But she found me on Facebook and I never knew about her until my mom one day was like, yeah, your sister Liliana, and I'm like, Huh? Sister? What are you talking about? So I do have a sister, but we have never lived together. We do not have like sibling Bonding, you know what I mean? So I don't know how I would be a I mean, I'd probably tell her if she was letting some person that she just met a week ago move in and she's given him all of her money and you know, her parents are giving him money too, I'd be like, You think that's the right choice? But she'd be she'd not that stupid to to do something like that. gosh. And do you think everyone should be in like be consultant? They all live on a commune? Yeah. Especially if you're not paying your own if you aren't paying your portion and everyone else is, that's not okay. Yeah. Not cool. Because everyone else has to fork up money. And then they also like, what are they paying of yours that you're not paying? You know? Like the PUD, the water, the sewer, whatever, garbage, internet. Actually hearing a story from a family that lives on a commune kind of Destroys my dreams of living What if that happens with my brother? True. I mean, we've always talked like Tanners always talked like, it'd be cool to have, you know, mom live next door and then dad live the next one down or blah, blah, blah, or whatever, you know. Which I think that would be fine. They come over here all the time anyways. So I mean, I wouldn't however, there was a time where we did live right next door to Shelly for a couple of years, five Four years maybe. then we moved and it was one, it was sad, but then it was also like, it's kinda like quiet. It's like weird. You you miss it, but then you like it. Same with like I felt really sad moving out of Stefan and Scott's house because, you know, they all live together. The dad and two boys and, you know, the family, everybody who lived in the whole same in the whole commune together. And it was kinda sad leaving that 'cause everyone was so close. But then it was also nice like having your own personal space and, you know, your own your own kitchen. Yeah. You know, your own laundry area. But yeah. It's nice and then it's also s sad too sometimes. But I wouldn't mind it. Yeah, I feel like if I did that, I'd want it to be on a really big plot of land though, like a hundred acres. So All the houses could be separated and then you have like community areas. I also feel though if it was on a commune with the E steps, everyone would be talking about it. It wouldn't just be hush hush. Like they're the type of people who would be like, Let's all have a family meeting, let's sit down. We have this massive group message called the hive number two, don't blow it, because the first one we destroyed and ruined from a certain somebody. because of a certain somebody outside of kind of the family. So yeah, it would be talked about for sure. No matter what. We'd we'd definitely talk about it. It wouldn't just be blown off or brushed off because someone would be pissed. Yeah, because that would definitely be the thing, like if you're bringing a new person in to like the community areas and stuff, and what if somebody gets bearded out? Yeah. Or like Things start to go missing. Yeah. Like there was this one time I there was a family member and I went to do something and then my it was like something so small. It was like a mint container, like my mints, my lifesavers or whatever, they were gone. They removed. And they were on my dresser. So I'm like, okay, that's a little weird. Like you obviously were in my bedroom. And then other things went missing too. In certain areas. So then it was like, okay, we're not gonna we're not gonna have this person be alone here anymore because it's just kind of weird. So Yeah, and then making sure everyone does their fair share of for stuff. Like there's so many things that could go wrong. Like if you make a mess in the kitchen, clean it up. Or if you I don't know to cook for everybody. Yeah. And then you just every time I'm sick. I also kind of wonder how much of that ch story is really true, or if they just just don't like the girl because they just don't like. What they just made her feel bad for no reason and she didn't actually do anything bad, she just had to leave because the family was so mean to her. We need her side of the story. Yeah, and I just have her brother's side of the story. I also just don't understand why if it wasn't his why he would stay, truthfully. Yeah. Like that's I mean however I that ha has some happen to somebody that I do know and I understand. If you love someone that much, you just you don't want to leave because you love them so much and like you can get through it. Especially if you're like you're married even. Right. You mean you can get through anything. Yeah. But you're just dating and you've only known for a week. Yeah. And then all and then all this happens, like then I'd be like, bye. Yeah, and how much time passed between her moving in and the pregnancy? Because the story made it seem like it wasn't like it was the next week. It could have. It could have. Yeah. Some people meet each other and then boom, they're instantly pregnant and then boom, they instantly get married, and then boom, they instantly are having their second child, third child, fourth child, fifth child. Then they have a whole clan. They have their own commune. That's funny. I'm good with not not doing that. But I don't really know. I don't really know if we can Bust any of this because we need more of the story. So if you're listening to this and you want to have your sister in law and your brother write in. Please do. Please do. That'd be interesting just to get their side of everything. I wanna know. There's always two sides to every story, by the way. It's never just one sided. Unless you just take it one sided and don't listen to the other. There's a Do you wanna talk about story number three? Story number three, and it's our last story. So my god. I can read the article. Can you believe that? Alrighty, story number three. A guy I used to work with occasionally was one the one who volunteered to be killed and eaten in the famous German cannibal case. Insert like dun dun dun literally we need a sound for right back What what what what? my god. Okay, well why? Why would you agree to be eaten? Why would you that's just freaking weird killed to be eaten? What you want to be eaten alive? Slice off a piece of your leg or something? Just to taste it? Yeah. Like do a little skin graph. I mean, I already like bite my skin around my fingers. I know what skin tastes like. So it doesn't taste like anything. I wonder if you went crazy. You know how some how they I remember I don't even know where I learned it, but I feel like I remember hearing one time when I was in school or on a true crime documentary or something. Maybe somebody just told me, maybe I dreamed it. I don't know. But I remember hearing that you're not actually supposed to eat people because the protein will like go in your brain and make crazy. Ew, that's sick. So somebody fact check me, please. That's really gross. This is so crazy. Okay, let's hear the article so we can get all the juicy details. Okay. Victim of cannibal agreed to be eaten. This article is more than twenty-two years old. Wednesday, December third, two thousand and three. To the family next door. Armin Mews seemed the perfect neighbor. He mowed their lawn, repaired their car, and even invited them round for dinner. Other residents in the small German town of Rotenburg also believed if I said that right, Rottenburg, Rotenburg. Dilia Pipen also believed there was nothing odd about the forty two year old computer expert whose light burned late into the night inside his creaking mansion. Yesterday, however, Mews appeared in court and charged with killing and then frying and eating another man. Frying. Why would you fry him? Giddy, giddy, giddy, giddy, giddy, giddy, get it, neighbor. Stack it up, stack it up, stack it up, stack it up. It's not butling, it's not cooking. That's right. Frying up. Get it, neighbor. And w one of the most extraordinary trials in German criminal history. The self confessed cannibal admitted that he had met a forty-three year old Berlin engineer, burned brands after advertising on the internet and had chopped him up and eaten him. That's just stupid. Why? That is so weird. Why are you that dumb? That sucks. We can't even ask him because he's dead. Yeah. He volunteered to be eaten. If any of you have ever wanted to be cannibalized, please chime in. What is wrong with people? Yeah. It was, he said, something he had wanted to do for a long time. I always had the fantasy, and in the end, I fulfilled it. Meuse told the court on the first day of his trial for murder in the nearby city of Castle. Yesterday, German prosecutors described how Meuse had fascinated about killing and devouring someone, including his classmates, from the age of eight. That's just weird. Like I wouldn't I have never thought about that in my entire life. Who who thinks these things? Obviously him. In March 2001, Muse advertised on the internet for a young, well built man who wanted to be eaten, Brands replied. On the evening of March 9th, the two men went up to the bedroom in Muse r Muse's rambling timbered farmhouse. Mr. Brands swallowed 20 sleeping tablets and half a bottle of schnapps before Muse cut off Brandy's pee pee. with his agreement and fried it for both of them to eat. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. What? You cut off the pee pee and you fried that together. I was thinking a finger. Or like like a chunk of your stomach fat or something. How would you not even be hungry? Your genitals. After having something cut off? my god. That would make you nauseous? Like losing all that blood. Wait, the person who who got it cut off ate it too? He said he fried it so they both could eat it. I thought it was one of a different guy. maybe I'm confused. No, it was him. How how is he not dead? I used thwe chin. That's a good stretch. Okay. Brands, by this stage, bleeding heavily, then took a bath. How are you still alive? While Muse read a Star Trek novel after they just fried up Benada's pee pee. Okay. In the early hours of the morning, he finished off his victim by stabbing him in the neck with a large kitchen knife, kissing him first. Okay, he was gay. the cannibal then chopped Mr. Brands into pieces and put several bits of him in the freezer next to a takeaway pizza and buried the skull in his garden. This sounds like some like Dahmer stuff. Okay. That's like weird. Yeah. Do a documentary. Please, please do a documentary. The next Netflix documentary. Insert that that noise. over the next few weeks he defrosted and cooked parts of Mr. Brand's in olive oil and garlic, eventually consuming twenty kilograms of human flesh before police finally turned up at his door. With every bite, my memory of him grew stronger, he said. What a freak. Behind bars, Muse told detectives that he had consumed his victim with a bottle of South African red wine, had got out of his best cutlery and decorated his dinner table with candles. He tasted of pork. He added. That's sick. No, it is. It's totally real. I mean it's legit. People do this all the time. The unprecedented case has proved problematic for German lawyers who discovered that cannibalism is not illegal in Germany. Huh? When you're done reading this, you have to pull out your phone and look it up and still instead they have charged Amuse with murder for the purpose of sexual pleasure and with destruction Disturbing the peace of the dead. What? The accused, however, has a unique defense that his victim actually agreed to be killed and eaten, which is true. Crucial to the case is a gruesome videotape made by Muse of the entire evening, during which Brands apparently makes clear his consent. Before setting off on his way one way journey to Rotenburg, Brands was outwardly at least a successful financially secure professional and with a live in girlfriend. The girlfriend, Betina L, told German TV that she had enjoyed a healthy sex life with Brand, but they had split up after he revealed that he also liked men, knew it, called that. There it is. in fact, prosecutors said yesterday Brands was suffering from a severe psychiatric disorder and a strong desire for self-destruction. After killing Brands, the Germans cannibal met five other men who responded to his internet advert, including one from London. He did not, however, kill them. In July 2001, a student stumbled on Meuse chat room and alerted the German authorities who arrested him last December. This was in 2003. Yesterday, Meuse told the court that he had Felt lonely and neglected as a child after his father walked out on the family. He had fascinated about having a blonde younger brother who he could keep forever by consuming him. That's so twisted. That's disgusting. That's just creepy. If convicted, Muse faces life in prison. A verdict is due early next year. the cannibal defense team, however, says that. Muse is guilty at worst of killing on demand, which is punishable by five years in jail. In his pretrial interview, the cannibal said that after being after eating brands, he felt much better and more stable. What happens when that stableness goes away again? You're gonna just find another person to eat? Brand spoke good English, he said. And since eating him, his English has improved. Okay, this guy get You're a liar. Yeah. Lock him up. He also revealed that he is now writing his memoirs. The trial, which is due to last three weeks, continues. What are you doing? No, he doesn't know. He's just scooching with his butt up in the air. Kiev. That's that's just really gross. I do have to verify that though, if it's legal in Germany. Yeah. Hey Siri, is cannibalism legal in Germany? Hey Siri, is cannibal legal in cannibalism legal in Germany? Yeah, please. Stay here. Is cannibalism legal in Germany? You're a model. Cannibal cannibalism itself is not specifically outlawed as a distinct crime under German law, but the acts required to practice it, such as murder, killing on request and discretion of a corpse are strictly illegal. Are you getting caught up in the tangled of the cords cannibalism illegal in the United States? Pretty sure. Is cannibalism legal in the United States? You're being like a kitty playing with that. No. Cannibalism is not explicitly legal in the US. And while most states do not have specific law named cannibalism, the act is effectively outlined by other criminal statuses. Murder and manslaughter, killing a person to eat them is prosecuted as murder. desecration of a corpse eating someone who is already dead violates against Law against abusing, disgrading, or mishandling a corpse, assault and bodily harm causing severe injury to obtain flesh involves charges like mayhem or aggr aggravated assault. Consent. A person cannot legally consent to being eaten, meaning voluntary agreements like in an Armin Muse case do not make the act legal. There it is. That is so funny. Crazy, but that's nuts. Do if you found out somebody we were I I don't know if I could work with them. That'd just be weird. Like I'd be freaked out a little bit. It it kind of freaked me out. Do you think you'd remember all the interactions with them and like analyze everything? Yes. And be like, my God, I know he was thinking about eating me that night. I knew it. This is this is all coming together. Piece it all together. Kevin. Would you eat me? I wouldn't eat you. No. If you were the last dog on earth, I would never eat you, Kevin. It's not a lot of new dogs. He really does. He's a chunky man. And he likes to play a lot. She don't wanna play. She's like, No no stories. They're freaking out. Yeah. I mean, even if you were like having like a small talk with somebody at the store and they were like, yeah, I used to work with somebody who killed somebody and then ate them, would you even believe them? No. I don't think I would either. I wouldn't believe them. I'd be like, you're such a j you're a little jokester. Don't lie to me. But then it actually is true. What? Is he bugging you? Is he a bug in the ear, Emma? He's so buddy. He's a fat boy. He's he is. He's a fat man. He is crazy. He's a crazy dog. Her ears are straight down. And then there's Kievan. Kiev. When somebody tells you a crazy story, what makes it believable? It makes you feel like it's true. If they have like facts to prove it, like fact checks. Or like they show pictures. Like look at this. This is what happened. Like these are my lab results. This is where they just Yeah. They cut me apart. Or they they tried to, yeah. Speaking of which I know this is not a true p true crime podcast, although that would be super fun. Yes. Some Bailey Sarian. Yeah. but we almost did an emergency podcast on Friday. I FaceTimed Ellie, which I never call anybody. I thought she had gotten into another car accident. I was like, my god. The last time I called her, I was in an accident. So she never calls. sucks. Anyways, Becca never phone calls or FaceTimes. Yes, she texts. If you leave a voicemail or you call me twice, I know it's important. Other than that, probably not. So anyways I forgot what I was saying. I FaceTimed Ellie on Thursday after I kept getting videos on my TikTok saying that Gypsy Rose's fiance, Ken Erker, was dead. And I was like, this is not real. Like don't they you get these videos all the time that are fake and whatever. So I go on Google and I look it up and I'm like, my God. And so I FaceTime Ellie and she answers and I'm like, look on Google right now. Ken Urker's dead. Gypsy Rose's husband is dead. That's insane. That's so crazy. After they had just broken up a couple weeks ago or whatever the news is saying. Do you think she did it? I don't know. I don't know. Wasn't it suicide? That's what they so at first the report came out and said that he there was two shot glasses and a syringe on the bedside table and then some brown powdery substance in the bathroom, which I don't know what a brown powdery substance is. I don't know what that would be. let us know if you know what it is. Maybe after it's cooked. It's something. True. And then there was the Preliminary autopsy that came out. So at first they were saying no foul play, possible drug overdose. I guess the first, the p preliminary aut autopsy, which I don't know the difference between a regular autopsy and like the quick one. But they said that his he had a stroke or something, or a pulmonary embolism, I think. blood caught in the lungs. Yeah, and like ninety percent of his heart was filled. like blocked or whatever it was. So that's the latest news I heard. So I don't know. I mean she's kooky crazy, but like somebody said, scrolling on TikTok trying to figure all of this out, you know, being internet slew. I don't know if she did it. Speaking of drugs though, like if it was a drug overdose, Tanner posted these two motorcycles on Facebook, right? And one person he got like instant replies from multiple different people. And one literally sold in less than an hour of it being online. He got a message from somebody like in Seattle. I was like, who is that? He's like, I have no idea who it is. They live in Everett or wherever. He's like, Would you take would you take any trades or do you like ice? God. And I'm like, Ice? Like why would what would why why would, you know, the police? I was thinking police. Why would the police matter if if you were trying to trade or do whatever, you know? He's like, Ice is meth. And I'm like, What? I didn't know that. Ding. Ding dong tells you I'm not in the loop with any of that stuff. I'm like, why somebody would just openly say on Facebook? Literally, I'm like, who is it? You need to report. He's like, there's no information on here. They would do no good. Plus Who the freak car literally, they nothing would happen. Nothing would. Drugs are like, it's just normal. Like, just do it somewhere else where I can't see you do it. Don't ask, don't tell, basically. Yeah. They don't the police don't wanna know, it feels like. They they they have better things. They have other things they need to deal with. Like murders and suicides and car accidents and DUIs and People who just want to do drugs, whatever, let do it. But that was crazy. Like who would just openly ask that to someone who they don't even know? Tanner could have been a cop. Literally. He wouldn't even know. Like Yeah. you imagine? No, that's just about your house. Crazy. Crazy. Yeah, actually I am interested in that. Yeah, where can we meet up? Or or they were a cop. Yeah. And they were trying to bust someone who was going to Facebook marketplace. Ooh. Crazy. do you like our backdrop today? This week? This is this is the guy who is on the phone or someone's like, What are you doing? Huh? What? Just hanging around. That's the guy. Tanner said that's really rude of us to get a tapestry of him. Whatever, his camera. Like look, he even has podcast headphones on. It's perfect. It is perfect. Yes. That's right. Maybe I'll find a clip of it. Edit it in. What's his name? We gotta find his name. We also gotta get Randy Johnson on here. yeah. From what I can remember. Yeah. We gotta get Randy Johnson. Yes. One day we're gonna travel to his house and do a podcast. Yes! my god, we love you, Randy. Hello. dare you People eat people for fun. And they like to eat inappropriate areas of the body and fry them and deep fry Giddy, giddy, giddy, git get it, get it, get it. We gotta post a clip of that guy 'cause he's just too funny. Yeah, people like to eat people and Coffee pot apparently. Sick. We don't have we have a Keurig, so you can't go wrong there. Pot carri eggs. I don't think anyone that works there is that retarded to put boiling food in there in the coffee pot. I wouldn't be surprised. I would. I'd be like, really who did this? That's sick. Okay. Really? But nothing compares to the pubes on the back of the toilet like last week. Or the the turd in the also someone commented and was like, You would be surprised what I have found in the JC Penny's store when I used to work there and I forgot she worked there for so long. She was my neighbor and I wanna know. Like you need to put in your stories of everything that you found, please, 'cause we wanna read them and figure out what you had to deal with, 'cause that's just crazy and funny and disgusting all at once. So like, subscribe, comment, submit, share. Please do all of the things that people do for podcasts so we can keep it going. Yeah. we need some submissions for next week. We'll start dressing up for Halloween next week. Woohoo. And it's gonna just be a good month. It's gonna be a great month. The full moon is gone finally. So I think we'll be pretty good. It's gonna be a good time next week. Stay tuned for next week's tapestry in the background. We have more. We've got lots of things to look forward to. Yes. Next. Okay. Well, we've got microphones. I did it backwards. You've got rumors. We've got microphones. Alrighty. We're rumor busters. Peace. Say bye-bye Emma. Say bye-bye Emma. She don't like it. She doesn't want to be part of it. Evan's like freaking out trying to get back on the ground or back on the bed.