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Episode 61 : Fair Words · So THIS Happened...

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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Here we are.
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SPEAKER_00: Episode 61 of So This Happened.
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SPEAKER_00: And tonight we have with us Katie Mundon Hayes of Allegria Fair.
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SPEAKER_00: And we're here live at Grow Plant Bar in downtown with Shout Ali.
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SPEAKER_00: We have a great show tonight.
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SPEAKER_00: Very excited.
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SPEAKER_00: First off, we have to give a shout out to our sponsors for this episode.
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SPEAKER_00: Because here we are.
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SPEAKER_00: Look at this.
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SPEAKER_00: It's wonderful.
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
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SPEAKER_00: How's everyone feeling tonight?
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SPEAKER_00: Are we good?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm feeling good.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Feeling good.
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SPEAKER_01: The first day that it has not reached triple digits in a while, it seems, or at least not upper 90s.
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SPEAKER_01: So I'm loving it.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm feeling following our way.
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SPEAKER_00: I am too.
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SPEAKER_00: And you know, it I feel like yesterday was the perfect day for open streets.
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SPEAKER_00: It's just like here I am.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I put on pants for the first time today.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: What is this feeling?
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SPEAKER_01: I know.
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SPEAKER_00: So boring.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, me too.
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SPEAKER_00: I wore, I did wear a hole on um crew neck yesterday.
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SPEAKER_00: I was so excited.
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SPEAKER_00: And I didn't get overheated.
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SPEAKER_00: I was just having the best time.
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SPEAKER_00: Made some chili.
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SPEAKER_00: The cheap one.
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SPEAKER_00: Chili season.
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SPEAKER_00: That was the tight thing.
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SPEAKER_00: That game stressed me out.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it stressed a lot of people.
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SPEAKER_00: It did.
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
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SPEAKER_00: So tonight's squad session is a big one.
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SPEAKER_00: Our guest has spent the last year rebranding and expanding and figuring out how to put fair trade and marketing for good under one name.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's really exciting.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So we have Katie Mennon Hayes of Allegria Fair.
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SPEAKER_00: And honestly, she's one of the busiest, most interesting people that we know and longtime friends.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's nice to have.
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SPEAKER_00: I posted you on past shows before.
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SPEAKER_00: So this is kind of like a full circle type of situation.
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SPEAKER_00: Very excited about that.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: But before we get into anything too crazy and too inspiring, we gotta we gotta rip the band-aid off with some this or that.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: So Katie and anyone new to the podcast, the way that this goes is I will give off two prompts, this or that.
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SPEAKER_00: And we will go around.
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SPEAKER_00: Katie will start with her answer and then a little bit of a reason why.
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SPEAKER_00: Then Rachel will do hers, then I'll do mine.
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SPEAKER_00: So you know, we'll do we'll do that two or three, maybe four times, depending on the conversation.
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SPEAKER_00: I have not picked the prompts yet, so this should be fun.
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unknown: I did not look at this.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like software.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we have this whole list of like I think 10 of them, and I only picked maybe three or four, depending on the conversation.
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SPEAKER_00: So let's see where it goes.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, what we got.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, coffee with a neighbor or coffee alone with a book.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh I mean, and this season in life, I really love reading a book and having some time to myself.
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SPEAKER_01: So to pick that one, but I also am working on my wanting to be with people time this week.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: Where's your like choice to have so are you going?
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SPEAKER_01: Are you going somewhere?
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SPEAKER_01: Are you going home?
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SPEAKER_01: Like what's your setup?
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SPEAKER_01: My front porch.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: I finally because I finally cooled off yesterday, was out there a long time yesterday.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, that sounds lovely.
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SPEAKER_01: Heck yeah, that sounds great.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like a professional sport now.
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SPEAKER_01: Somebody sent me the rules the other day for like for front porch city.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Blanket.
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SPEAKER_01: Not too much conversation if you want to do your own thing, but I also like to talk to neighbors.
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SPEAKER_01: So I had a hard time with that one, but yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, I bet so.
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SPEAKER_00: I it's funny how active, like we were neighbors during COVID, and so our street was very much outdoors during that time.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's how we all became such great friends.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, because of that.
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SPEAKER_00: What about what about Rachel?
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I like to stay both.
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SPEAKER_01: She's a she's a both.
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SPEAKER_01: I didn't know that was allowed.
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SPEAKER_01: Rachel goes rogue.
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SPEAKER_01: Um I have to say probably going and having a coffee with friends because you know, we do our coffee breaks and that's always fun to try to spot.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and my coffee that I do at home is usually it's more of a routine thing.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like I have my coffee either pre-made if it's cold and I grab it to work.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't really have a spot or an opportunity to just sit there.
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SPEAKER_01: So I'm sure I would love it once I reach that season of my life.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Before I do have time to just sit at home and enjoy my coffee by myself.
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SPEAKER_01: But I think right now it's trying to spots with chin.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's been a lot of fun.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: In fact, I think we're about due for our next one.
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SPEAKER_00: So I don't even know where that's gonna be, but we'll figure that out soon.
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SPEAKER_00: So you guys stay tuned.
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unknown: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Our last one was Viva.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: That place is gorgeous, the coffee is delicious, and the proseco is delicious too.
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SPEAKER_00: And then their plants are happy and healthy.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, their breakfast bringing us a bit.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, they were but was it potato and cheese?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, potato and sausage and cheese, and then they had a salsa that had a bit of a cake.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I had like I would put like a little tiny dab, but and then that was fine for me.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't do spice?
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SPEAKER_00: I do spicy, but I I've been cutting back on spicy.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that's to irritate me lately, and I don't like that.
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SPEAKER_00: I like to be irritated with spicy.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, get it over me.
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SPEAKER_00: I think I'm gonna break, I you know, I'm gonna say something that I I don't believe has been said on our podcast before, but okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Neither of these are my live too much.
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SPEAKER_00: Um don't come for me, but neither of these right now is really where I'm here.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, wait, so what is yours?
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SPEAKER_00: The way that I'm choosing to have my coffee these days is I with in my living room because I can right now.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, with and with my laptop up, answering emails or creating content with a comfort show in the background.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so it's very much just me.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's you, but it's you getting into your flow state.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like the waking up of my but it's like it's becoming my cozy like thing that I love to do in the morning.
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SPEAKER_00: It's very romanticized.
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SPEAKER_00: That's good.
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SPEAKER_00: And like I have the homemade, I brought bean stack from Vibra.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and the oh, they're so delicious.
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SPEAKER_00: But I also bought pumpkin pumpkin coffee from Trader Joe's.
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SPEAKER_00: I love that stuff to be used.
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SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I like to put a little of both and brew it together.
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SPEAKER_00: Delicious.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm excited for this.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm just having all the fun figuring things out.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm probably getting to know myself a little bit better now, too, now that I'm able to sit and have that time with myself on the morning.
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SPEAKER_01: I love that for mornings.
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SPEAKER_01: I love the morning when I'm able to do that.
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SPEAKER_01: But I think that probably the only beverage I get to romanticize alone time with is like bedtime tea before bed anyway.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: That's probably my yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I to be clear, I don't do that very often.
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SPEAKER_01: Sit on the porch.
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SPEAKER_01: It's usually frantically drinking it while we're that makes it.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's like special sense.
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SPEAKER_01: So I think we're all in all around ladies about.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: We've all got our thing.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it's you know, at least having a ritual and something that you enjoy is is fun.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what about our audience?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what are you guys?
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SPEAKER_02: Uh I mean, I don't really have a breakfast routine right now, but I do love when I'm able to make like a really kind of fancy breakfast.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, um breakfast coffee that you can make.
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SPEAKER_01: Fresh coffee.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love that.
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SPEAKER_01: I taste better when someone else brees it for me.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll take that.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that one.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's you too.
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SPEAKER_01: You're drinking your fresh fruit, yeah, or it's just for her.
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SPEAKER_02: What's your morning routine?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just coffee on the couch with a book.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
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SPEAKER_00: I think we're 50-50 on this.
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SPEAKER_00: It's you know, it's kind of strange how we're all coffee people here too.
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SPEAKER_00: I know people love tea also, so but this is wild now here in this room.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh it's coffee audience.
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SPEAKER_00: Feel free to share your your routine with us.
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SPEAKER_00: We'd love to know, get to know you guys a little bit better.
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SPEAKER_00: We love we love getting to know ours.
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SPEAKER_00: It's fun.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, the next one local shop or big box convenience.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, local shop, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh just like to push the button a little bit.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, so easy.
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SPEAKER_01: We have so many great when it's possible.
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SPEAKER_01: We have so many great local shops to choose from.
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SPEAKER_01: And when I'm working at the Old Town Farm and Art Market, that's a bonus for getting up early.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like a shop, the good selection there, too.
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SPEAKER_00: There's so much out there.
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SPEAKER_00: That and that market has grown so much.
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SPEAKER_00: We I know we just talked about that on another episode of the day.
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SPEAKER_00: I saw yeah, and but it's it's just gotten huge.
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SPEAKER_00: It's it's incredible to see that blocks of just awesomeness.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, all in one place, all the local shops in one place.
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SPEAKER_00: So cool.
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SPEAKER_00: It is so cool.
10:02
SPEAKER_00: I we need to get back out there.
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SPEAKER_00: I think Nathan probably misses it.
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SPEAKER_00: We used to go get that funny guy all the time and then stop by your mood.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we need to have a little routine.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not a thousand degrees anymore.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh no.
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SPEAKER_00: Wonderful.
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SPEAKER_00: I love that Joseph put hi Joseph, he put up he prefers local.
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SPEAKER_00: Love that.
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SPEAKER_00: We love that about you too.
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SPEAKER_00: That's the right answer.
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SPEAKER_00: If you're small businesses, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, what about you, Miss Rachel?
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love a good shop local.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, but I will admit I don't always get to the market on the weekend for like produce and stuff though.
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SPEAKER_01: I love getting local produce.
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SPEAKER_01: I it feels better about it, and then usually it tastes better, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: And then you're actually supporting local farmers and things like that.
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SPEAKER_01: Plus, you actually get the health benefits of eating local food.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you know, helps with allergens and all that, not just honey, even all free veggies stuff like that, too.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so you know what they put in it.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not made in the lab somewhere.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh, as far as produce goes, absolutely lovable.
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SPEAKER_01: I have a benefit though of being able to go and be a Peter Rabbit at my dad's veggie garden.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's great though or just building up from there.
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SPEAKER_01: But uh, but you know, this was so hot this year.
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SPEAKER_01: I wonder if local farmers stuff would struggle with the budget.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think so.
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SPEAKER_01: Some of them had to end the season early, at least the full time market.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So hopefully next year we'll bring more for them.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I hope so.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll see what what next year brings.
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SPEAKER_00: I know that 2027, just I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not I'm not a meteorologist.
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SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
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SPEAKER_01: Check the farmer's element.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there we go.
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SPEAKER_00: Pretty reliable.
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SPEAKER_00: I think for me, as much as I can, I love I love going local for shopping, especially like gifts and things like that.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
12:03
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
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SPEAKER_00: I've gotten some of the my my family's favorite Christmas gifts from your booth.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, which is really fun.
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SPEAKER_00: I love I love that they love that stuff so much though.
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SPEAKER_00: Because I do too.
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SPEAKER_00: We have a lot of it around around our house, especially Christmas decorations and other things.
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SPEAKER_01: But yeah, for gifts, beautiful things that's so much more special too to get it.
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SPEAKER_01: It really does if then you put more thought into it, you know.
12:27
SPEAKER_01: We're just ordering something off Amazon, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It's tough.
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SPEAKER_01: We can't get everything I know local, but we're taking steps, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think that that's all that matters.
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SPEAKER_00: If that's in your heart, then you you at least make an effort to do it, then you're you're thinking about it and you're being intentional, and that means a lot as well.
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SPEAKER_00: So, what about our lovely SIP squad?
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SPEAKER_00: What do y'all think?
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, definitely local shopping.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I feel like the reason we know so many of our friends, especially SIP Squad members, is from being out in the local community, honestly.
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SPEAKER_00: That's how we know you.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure that's how I know you.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe not even shopping, but out there networking at local events, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: And well, and you and I are ultra local.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh gosh, so much fun.
13:23
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so let's uh let's go a little bit deeper.
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SPEAKER_00: So are we in nature trail or city sidewalk?
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SPEAKER_01: Most of the time, nature trail.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: We just did try some new bike trails in Kansas City, and so many like nature, but still in the city.
13:43
SPEAKER_01: But so there was more nature part and more city sidewalk part, and we agreed, my husband and I, that we liked nature part.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:51
SPEAKER_01: Something wonderful about nature.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: For me, definitely love walks in nature.
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SPEAKER_01: The more foliage, the better.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but um, like I don't mind climbing over a rock and stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: I know that's not a deal for bike.
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SPEAKER_01: Definitely, you know, climbing trees, that whole shebang.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: Do you still climb trees?
14:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I try to.
14:17
SPEAKER_01: So world is Rachel's playground.
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SPEAKER_01: I think it's been a few months, but yes, I have.
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SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, the park over on Harry and it's a disco park.
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SPEAKER_01: We have lovely climbing trees.
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SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
14:27
SPEAKER_01: Um it's almost more acceptable to climb a tree than go and join the children on the playground.
14:37
SPEAKER_01: So Walter.
14:43
SPEAKER_00: Last year when we were at Walter, she waited until all the kids were not around the shoot slide before three times.
14:50
SPEAKER_00: I think it was bad.
14:52
SPEAKER_00: She went to books.
14:54
SPEAKER_00: I think those kids do that.
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SPEAKER_00: She's like coming out and giggling.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: I have to care, but I'm waiting for my Rachel to come back.
15:11
SPEAKER_02: Are you ready?
15:15
SPEAKER_02: Yes, it is.
15:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was give me the tummy tickle.
15:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was good.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
15:29
SPEAKER_00: Yes, we will.
15:31
SPEAKER_01: Oh, Walter's pumpkin patch, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, yeah.
15:35
SPEAKER_01: They yeah, I don't know what they did, but I swear they used to never go that fast.
15:39
SPEAKER_01: Or I think I had beers.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh yeah.
15:45
SPEAKER_00: No, we had the best time.
15:47
SPEAKER_00: We went and did we did Walter's pumpkin patch, and then we went to Longnut River and had had some beers there.
15:53
SPEAKER_00: And I was their marketing guy.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was fun.
15:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was great.
15:59
SPEAKER_00: And they had great local shops too.
16:00
SPEAKER_00: Like I were junkie, they even have iwear junkie in Val Dorado.
16:03
SPEAKER_01: I noticed, they have like little coffee shops and stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: They do.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: I know.
16:07
SPEAKER_00: I need to go go explore more.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, I definitely love nature.
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SPEAKER_01: I feel like it's just a re-energizing.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but if I'm in a new city, I mean I think it is fun to walk around, but only if I have someone to walk with.
16:16
SPEAKER_01: Well, like walking in spring places alone.
16:19
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, definitely nature for the city, I'd say.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I you know, for me, I would I feel like I lean towards nature and I appreciate it more when I'm out in it.
16:31
SPEAKER_00: But gosh, I love going to Colorado.
16:33
SPEAKER_00: I we have a trip coming up to Arkansas that I'm really excited about, studying nature in that trip.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: But like we're just we're not out in it very often, as often as we'd like to be.
16:44
SPEAKER_00: And so I guess my comfort zone, if I'm gonna pick more of a comfort zone, would probably be city sidewalks.
16:50
SPEAKER_00: And like I don't even mind walking them by myself.
16:53
SPEAKER_00: I think the only place that I would probably get nervous about that might be New York City, but I recently heard even maybe that's not even so bad.
17:01
SPEAKER_01: I guess that's what I think.
17:02
SPEAKER_01: That's what I like think of when I think of city walking.
17:05
SPEAKER_01: I don't even think about which time is in like walking and like you know, Chicago.
17:09
SPEAKER_00: Chicago New York City, yeah.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: There's a few people oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:15
SPEAKER_00: Like I like down by Napster is so incredibly walkable.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of great stuff down there in old, of course.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I I am definitely comfortable in old town.
17:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, to get too much nature out where you kind of do have to get out a little bit.
17:30
SPEAKER_01: There's a couple parts around to some retail stuff, but yeah, that are nice and they've got a whole paths or the river.
17:37
SPEAKER_01: I feel like that's kind of the river.
17:42
SPEAKER_00: Yes, oh, I do love that so much.
17:44
SPEAKER_00: I used to run the river back when I ran, and it was my favorite thing to do.
17:47
SPEAKER_00: It was a blast.
17:49
SPEAKER_00: What about our audience?
17:50
SPEAKER_00: I'd love to hear from our people viewing, and then of course, Michelle, what what about you?
17:55
SPEAKER_02: Uh definitely both.
17:57
SPEAKER_00: Both both, okay.
17:59
SPEAKER_00: Well, uh, yeah, I've seen that.
18:05
SPEAKER_02: I think mine is beauty in the setting.
18:07
SPEAKER_02: I love that.
18:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:14
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, that's good.
18:15
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
18:16
SPEAKER_01: Even if it's this cute little weed grown in the cocktail society.
18:19
SPEAKER_00: I know.
18:20
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it's the cutest little flower, too, though.
18:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's there's this brewery that we always walk by in Kansas City, and they always have this time of year the coolest sunflowers just growing out of the sidewalk up next to the building every year.
18:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, I just and it's like one of my favorite things.
18:38
SPEAKER_00: I think I've taken pictures of it before, but yeah, gotta love a good photo walk, of course.
18:44
SPEAKER_00: So much fun.
18:45
SPEAKER_00: All right.
18:46
SPEAKER_00: Well, I think that concludes our this or that fun.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: Thank you all for your answers.
18:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, if you still have an answer that you want to put up if you're watching live, feel free.
18:56
SPEAKER_00: We love to hear more about your preferences too, and join the conversation.
19:01
SPEAKER_00: Now we're gonna get to know Katie and talk about all the fun things that you've had going on.
19:07
SPEAKER_00: So let's talk about Allegory Affair.
19:10
SPEAKER_00: You rebranded, and I did notice this, but I didn't think that you and I have had a formal conversation about what all that, like what all of that entails.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: So you're bringing your fair trade work and your cause marketing work, which is great under one name.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's fantastic.
19:25
SPEAKER_00: So, what made the moment feel right to go ahead and go along with that?
19:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's such a good question.
19:30
SPEAKER_01: Oh, first of all, I brought you guys gifts.
19:34
SPEAKER_01: Yes, this is a fair trade.
19:36
SPEAKER_01: Um it's made from the acyc called sorry fabric.
19:44
SPEAKER_01: They're so pretty.
19:47
SPEAKER_01: So tell the audience what these are made out of.
19:51
SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
19:51
SPEAKER_01: So it's a bead made in India from upcycled furniture pieces and sorry fabric.
19:57
SPEAKER_01: Every single one is different and unique.
19:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:00
SPEAKER_01: And so, yeah, and to get to your question, a lot of people know about my fair trade work.
20:07
SPEAKER_01: It's like flashing, and there's like things you can show.
20:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
20:11
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I kind of started noticing like I'm also doing marketing work, that's another piece of my job.
20:16
SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't only work on Saturdays at Markets.
20:20
SPEAKER_01: Right.
20:20
unknown: Yeah.
20:21
SPEAKER_01: And so I also have been working on communications things and public relations, content writing for good causes.
20:31
SPEAKER_01: So I was doing these kind of like as two separate businesses.
20:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:34
SPEAKER_01: And I realized like that's exhausting to try and promote two businesses.
20:39
SPEAKER_01: Oh no, I can't imagine.
20:45
SPEAKER_02: I mean, not anymore.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: Seven different social accounts or however many like if you're doing it for other people, then you might have a few for yourself.
20:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:55
SPEAKER_01: So anyway, I just started feeling like I first thought they were two separate things, but the more I thought about it, their trade is you know, the making sure that people are treated well and dignity in their job.
21:09
SPEAKER_01: And and I kind of used that with my branding to say that we also need to work on their words and how we talk about people.
21:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and we're gonna value, especially in like human-centered service organizations, yeah, nonprofits or a business like a fair trade, either way.
21:26
SPEAKER_01: If we're gonna value person, then we should do it with their words too.
21:29
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
21:30
SPEAKER_01: And so I realized so meaningful, and maybe it was in discussion with my Gemini AI assistant, but that they really do connect.
21:38
SPEAKER_00: They do, it makes so much sense.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that's fantastic, and it's so and the branding is beautiful.
21:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is.
21:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm looking at the story for your friends, it looks great.
21:47
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
21:50
SPEAKER_02: And cloud marketing.
21:51
SPEAKER_02: I love that title.
21:53
SPEAKER_02: And I love this too.
21:54
SPEAKER_01: I'm getting my car this week, so I'm gonna keychain.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: That's the perfect timing.
22:04
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, thank you so much.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: Those are beautiful.
22:07
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, perhaps.
22:09
SPEAKER_00: And okay, so people that have followed you and your pop-ups and booths, your your paramount and workroom, which is great.
22:18
SPEAKER_01: Yes, and the old town farm and art market.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: And the old town, yes.
22:21
SPEAKER_01: The old tradition of the old town farm and art market.
22:24
SPEAKER_00: How long have you been goated to that one?
22:26
SPEAKER_01: Since 2018.
22:28
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
22:30
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna have to bring fireworks.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: Maybe just like sparkle for like blow sticks since the birthday time.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: We'll figure something out.
22:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, yeah.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, contain fire.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: So what's actually has anything changed versus other than the name?
23:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
23:02
unknown: No, that's okay.
23:04
SPEAKER_01: Um with the fair trade pop-ups, no, not really.
23:09
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's still targeted to home goods and things that people can use perhaps for gifts.
23:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that are the whole supply chain.
23:19
SPEAKER_01: We work on making sure that people were paid fairly for their context and treated well and ethically in the way.
23:26
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, that has not really changed.
23:29
SPEAKER_01: I've added the Paramount booth and the workroom booth so there's more places that people can find the stuff.
23:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:34
SPEAKER_01: And then the market and occasional other things.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: People can get out and see you in public and chat with you.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: You know, know exactly where all these the stuff that came from.
23:45
SPEAKER_01: You know, so like you know everybody in the company is treated well and all that for every single thing you sell, that's on anything.
23:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love that.
23:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's I'm good ethics right there.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
23:56
SPEAKER_01: That's the goal, yeah, is to make sure the supply chain is short and so like people can know where it comes from.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love that.
24:03
SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
24:04
SPEAKER_00: Not many people do that these days.
24:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know, I know.
24:08
SPEAKER_00: So is there like a story that you want Allegria Fair to tell that encompasses kind of both you know your cost marketing and being in the market?
24:19
SPEAKER_00: So you would like your your clients and your customers to kind of understand.
24:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I think the overarching like team is kind of the fair business and then fair or good words.
24:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:33
SPEAKER_01: So it's it's really in how we treat people, and and if we're gonna say we we value the dignity in every person, which I do say then these are ways we can live it up.
24:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: So I I think it can end up being like I'm preaching at people, and that is not the goal.
24:47
SPEAKER_01: Like I it's an invitation to be a part of this.
24:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I've never I've known you a really long time, and one I would never think of you as preaching, but I would absolutely think of you as always inviting.
25:00
SPEAKER_00: You've always been so inviting and so inspiring.
25:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but yeah, I and so you're definitely in my in my experience with you, you're absolutely blowing that on the water.
25:11
SPEAKER_00: I mean literally beautiful job, and you got such a beautiful thing going on.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: So, and like it's so fun to think about all of the like all of the years that you've been doing this and all the seasons that you've been doing, all the markets that you've been in and part of over the year, and also helped organize over the years.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: So you have a lot of things going on, I think, behind the scenes that people probably don't even think about.
25:34
SPEAKER_00: And I know that we're gonna dive a little bit more into that, but I just have to note how cool it's been to see you do what you're doing and growing it over this last what I've been watching for about eight years now, which is crazy to me.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: Maybe longer, maybe nine.
25:50
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, but we're we're kind of in there a little bit, and it's just wow, it's so cool to see.
25:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
26:00
SPEAKER_01: I know I think it would not work for just me to be minded.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: No.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: So is there kind of like how does that work?
26:06
SPEAKER_00: Is there like a little a network of people or is there like a place that you go and learn from?
26:12
SPEAKER_00: Let's talk a little bit more about the background of the fair trade part of it.
26:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, it is I primarily source my products from members of the Fair Trade Federation, which is a group that screens each other and makes sure the whole business has ethical practices and how they go.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: There's some companies that just like screen one item at a time, but they this is like whole business.
26:36
SPEAKER_01: So there's debate and discussion within Fair Trade on how to do it, but that's the idea.
26:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:41
SPEAKER_01: So I typically order from those folks who are the importers, so they have the relationships with artisan groups, usually work for own co-ops.
26:48
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
26:49
SPEAKER_01: So there are people who have a say in the business for you know what's fair in their region.
26:53
SPEAKER_01: We wouldn't be able to say necessarily from here what's a fair wage and think the Dutch.
26:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: And so we would like the people on the ground to to decide that.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: And so yeah, I've been basically I get to order and shop their catalog in place catalog and ask which is top people what they want here.
27:10
SPEAKER_01: That is so that is cool.
27:12
SPEAKER_01: So I've just anyone wanting to go like be a part of it, or something that like that help, like, or do they just tell you what to order for then?
27:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, yes, typically I'm like surveying customers, or I get enough requests for something, I start ordering that in and see who might have something similar.
27:31
SPEAKER_01: Not a hundred percent of things are available.
27:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, trying to there are a lot of options.
27:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that is fun.
27:37
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
27:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so okay, so you've been deep in studying ethical and trauma informed storytelling.
27:43
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, and now you're starting to teach it through ethical storytelling labs.
27:49
SPEAKER_00: What pulled you toward that specific one?
27:52
SPEAKER_00: This one I don't think I knew about.
27:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, you probably haven't talked about this.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's very related to fair trade.
27:59
SPEAKER_01: You can see how this will overlap because for a long time in fair trade and in nonprofit work, I've been helping nonprofits with their communications too.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: So, as well as doing my own fair trade.
28:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:12
SPEAKER_01: But so for a long time in history, stories were being told like, look at this poor person who needs your help, please buy their thing, or please make a damage.
28:21
SPEAKER_01: And so fair trade is kind of the backlash to exploitive business practices.
28:29
SPEAKER_01: Ethical storytelling is like the the other side exploitive words.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: Right.
28:34
SPEAKER_01: So instead of saying, like, look how horrible things are, I mean, that that might be true.
28:39
SPEAKER_01: However, it's not necessarily like giving credit to the person might have some strength.
28:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's offered.
28:46
SPEAKER_01: They might be able to make an amazing, beautiful bracelet.
28:48
SPEAKER_01: They might be an amazing chef, which might be if they have a practice, yeah.
28:56
SPEAKER_01: Going to basically conferences about nonprofit ethical practices, and then I went through a trauma-informed storytelling program.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: Okay, wow, wow.
29:04
SPEAKER_01: I've been really, I mean, just learning so much about how we've been, and I I mean, some of it I was starting to notice myself.
29:12
SPEAKER_01: And it's been a big conversation in Fair Trade for the last several years, how we talk about the people that we're working together with.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: So I kind of got pulled into it that way and have found that it's really, really valuable work.
29:28
SPEAKER_01: And I've been trying to teach what I've um not trying, I've been teaching what I've learned to my clients and then to other nonprofit folks around in Wichita.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: So there's a lot of like online resources and classes you can go to, but not a lot happening on site in Wichita.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna try and back out.
29:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, and I'm I've noticed a lot of educational content in your social media as well, which is fantastic.
29:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like when you get on and you like explain, you're either doing carousels or you're getting on and actually explaining things, which is fantastic.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: And not enough people are getting on and showing their face and talking about what they do.
30:05
SPEAKER_00: And I think I love that you do that.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: I think you're great at it.
30:07
SPEAKER_00: And um, I know that people get a lot of you know, knowledge that they may not have found anywhere else from that.
30:13
SPEAKER_00: And that's exactly you know what you're supposed to be doing with your social media telling that.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
30:18
SPEAKER_01: Well, I had this friend who kept telling me to do videos.
30:22
SPEAKER_01: Who would have she probably told other people too and we were talking?
30:30
SPEAKER_01: But no, I mean, I I understand that that's like all we have to do to get attention on social media, yeah, and also it does give a human sign.
30:40
SPEAKER_01: And so I started being less worried about if I care about something, then all right.
30:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they should do it multiple times too, in case like somebody hasn't seen your videos before, but they're gonna see it now.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: Like I don't think you could repeat things too many times on social media.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that you're you're getting out and doing it and you're doing it as well.
31:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a good because it feels sometimes with branding in general, like I've said all the things already.
31:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but no, no, we are gonna see the next time, right?
31:12
SPEAKER_01: So it's time to keep it fresh.
31:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I kind of watch the same videos that come through my you know uh algorithm, and it's a different day.
31:21
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I've seen this video before, why am I seeing it again?
31:23
SPEAKER_01: But I guess what I watched it again exactly how to say, yeah.
31:31
SPEAKER_00: So my god, you know, like I have this influencer that I know what she's gonna buy when she goes to Target and she does her drugstore mic at all.
31:39
SPEAKER_00: I always know exactly what she's getting, but I watched the video.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: She loves you.
31:48
SPEAKER_00: I was right.
31:49
SPEAKER_00: Also, I have all of this stuff because I love her.
31:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I actually page I love her getting notifications about it because I think it was our shared Facebook or something.
32:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like what are you doing?
32:05
SPEAKER_00: She's great, but yeah, and you gotta be repetitive, and and yeah, you know, and I love that.
32:11
SPEAKER_00: So um okay, what's the story what's the story you've seen told badly with good intentions that shaped how you think about doing it right?
32:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, okay, so this is like in in a room full of nonprofit or really anybody, if you ask them this question, the thing that always comes up is uh dear bless bless it all.
32:36
SPEAKER_01: Remember the Sarah McLaughlin text video, yeah.
32:39
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: Okay, if those were people, yeah, yeah, sad, super sad music, and looking at like at their worst point in their lives, yeah, poor little puppies.
32:52
SPEAKER_01: And I don't I don't know how the animals feel about it, but if they were people, that would probably that would not be a dignifying political story, yeah.
33:01
SPEAKER_01: And so that's the best example we've got.
33:04
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I have seen some of them too with people, with children, you know.
33:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it's not it's exactly that.
33:10
SPEAKER_01: It's like you know, yeah, as in the angels situation, right?
33:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:15
SPEAKER_01: We're learning, I think, as a culture.
33:17
SPEAKER_01: I think we're learning.
33:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but there have so we're looking back and going, oh man, we might have said, you know, um, how we label people and how we explained who they are, even things with like when in my work with family promise here locally, we learned I learned a lot from social workers and from the families themselves, you know, like how we label people homeless is not like the most important thing about a person.
33:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
33:41
SPEAKER_01: And so, and so family promise, we had to shift our language to families who are in a circumstance or they're experiencing homelessness.
33:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it it is slower and more intentional, and it takes more time to say, yeah, oftentimes a more dignifying thing, but it is worth honoring who people are.
34:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, and we're trying to throw things in, like, you know, families who are working hard are not like sitting around being in a crisis.
34:09
SPEAKER_01: Right.
34:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, children.
34:11
SPEAKER_01: If we're in a a charity that's helping children, you know, they're they're resilient, they're smart, and they just need an opportunity.
34:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: I think there is a gap that is not recognized by how we did just do that.
34:24
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you are saying homeless, you know, boom, but one big category for all these different types of humans online that are going through a completely different experience.
34:34
SPEAKER_01: There should be definitely a buy.
34:36
SPEAKER_01: So and like I think that those extra words are worth it.
34:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and they take some more time.
34:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's worth it.
34:44
SPEAKER_01: We're still kind of trying to convince journalists who have no shade on them, but they have word limits.
34:50
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, and they're trying to get a story out of that, and they don't always have time to talk to me about it in my PR work.
34:57
SPEAKER_01: About like what how we would like it said.
35:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so so we're still navigating some of that.
35:03
SPEAKER_01: And of course, it's not as grabbing as just one word, yeah.
35:07
SPEAKER_01: Not clickbait.
35:08
SPEAKER_01: So clickbait is a it's uh you know, unfortunately, very much part of our culture.
35:13
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, words do have a lot of power.
35:16
SPEAKER_01: I think I've always been like a writer fascinated with words, yeah.
35:20
SPEAKER_01: That's why this appealed to me too.
35:22
SPEAKER_01: So the way we like characterize people probably eventually impacts how we treat them and how we make policies and our government, like that's like why every two really keep impacts.
35:33
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
35:34
SPEAKER_00: So I I think it's that I think it is too.
35:37
SPEAKER_00: Everyone has a story, they that one label is not their story, and it shouldn't define them.
35:43
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
35:44
SPEAKER_00: No, yeah, I agree with that completely.
35:46
SPEAKER_01: I love looking into what the etymology where you look into ethical history words and what they came from, and like break them all down and across different cultures and time frames and they mean different things, yeah.
35:56
SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, this whole work of like how do we like carefully tell stories is always involved.
36:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:02
SPEAKER_01: That's why it's so cool.
36:04
SPEAKER_02: It's and it shapes our society, really.
36:07
SPEAKER_01: And like because of how we communicate with each other.
36:10
SPEAKER_01: So whether it's like a word that came from some religious-based thing, it might just be an everyday now thing that even somebody that is doesn't believe in anything, right in particular, uses every day.
36:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, and disagrees with using every day.
36:23
SPEAKER_00: So it's crazy how it's kind of the problem with the whole board.
36:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that is so true.
36:28
SPEAKER_00: All right, so okay, so marketing for good launched this spring.
36:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:32
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so this is something that I saw pop up and really I oh it made so much sense to me when I started seeing it show up on socials as a place for people doing similar work to gather.
36:43
SPEAKER_00: What was missing in Wichita that made you want to create that space for people?
36:48
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
36:49
SPEAKER_01: Well, there's some unique challenges if you're a nonprofit or a cause.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: So some of the stuff we just talked about, like how we talk about the people we serve.
36:57
SPEAKER_01: There's unique challenges in like in marketing, the customers like the hero, you know, like we have this vision, you can be the hero.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: But in marketing a cause, the donor is maybe a hero, but also the person doing the work to help their own life, yeah, to get out of their circumstances.
37:15
SPEAKER_01: So there's some more nuance sometimes, too.
37:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then lots of ethical storytelling considerations to to think about.
37:23
SPEAKER_01: So we got together, so we call this a cross-sector collaboration.
37:29
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
37:30
SPEAKER_01: All the industry buzzwords.
37:33
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
37:34
SPEAKER_01: So myself, so I'm not I'm a for-profit marketing agency, and then Jay Henry.
37:41
SPEAKER_01: Nonprofit guru, and she's convening a lot of nonprofits together for lots of different things to support children and families in Chicago.
37:49
SPEAKER_01: So, so she has been involved in a lot of like how do we tell stories ethically, as well as our friend Christy Bach.
37:55
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah, marketing professional and educator.
37:58
SPEAKER_01: So we have education, nonprofit business, and then also the shapers for family comments, issuing fundraising and communication.
38:06
SPEAKER_01: So the four of us.
38:06
SPEAKER_01: Oh, what a powerhouse.
38:07
SPEAKER_01: That's so friends.
38:12
SPEAKER_01: And um so we were meeting to kind of share ideas on this front and and marketing challenges together and started talking about how nonprofits locally don't always have the resources for the time, yeah, because so many are so small.
38:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so there's not necessarily a marketing person.
38:32
SPEAKER_01: Often it's like the director, and they're supposed to be doing marketing with this.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: Right.
38:37
SPEAKER_01: Which means that it's not probably happening.
38:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
38:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
38:42
SPEAKER_01: Um, and not as right as much inconsistently as people would like.
38:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:46
SPEAKER_01: So we came up with this idea to have a learning and working day.
38:49
SPEAKER_01: So we took the whole day, but it was only three speakers.
38:53
SPEAKER_01: And so there would be a speaker and then implemented, like sit down and do the work on your laptop.
38:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay.
38:59
SPEAKER_01: And so, and then as well as connecting, that was one of the biggest pieces of feedback we had with people like taking the time to talk to others doing similar work and like how could we work together or collaborate?
39:10
SPEAKER_01: And um, so it was a really beautiful day.
39:13
SPEAKER_01: We had 50 people come to our show.
39:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh my gosh, that's fantastic.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: Yes, that is awesome.
39:20
SPEAKER_00: Is there gonna be another one?
39:21
SPEAKER_00: Is this gonna be like an NFA?
39:23
SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's our plan.
39:24
SPEAKER_01: Our plan is that, and then some other meetups during the year.
39:27
SPEAKER_01: We've got another one this year to talk about ethical storytelling.
39:30
SPEAKER_01: Cool and then have work time.
39:32
SPEAKER_01: Nice.
39:33
SPEAKER_01: So we're trying to build that community and that just as a resource of like time to actually get the work done.
39:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and to brainstorm with other colleagues.
39:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because if you just brainstorm that we don't actually sit down and work with other people that were in like the mind hive with you, you know.
39:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
39:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
39:50
SPEAKER_01: We've got that going on.
39:51
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's the hope.
39:53
SPEAKER_01: It's keep building that community, but specifically for coffee.
39:56
SPEAKER_01: You're already crushing it.
39:57
SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: We're trying.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, your first one is really big.
40:00
SPEAKER_01: That's great.
40:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we had some support from the Kansas Health Foundation.
40:04
SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
40:04
SPEAKER_01: Thank you very much.
40:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
40:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, so we were able to give like really good food and really good at least coffee.
40:10
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
40:14
SPEAKER_01: That's good.
40:15
SPEAKER_01: It was really, yeah, it was wonderful.
40:16
SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
40:17
SPEAKER_01: What a good collab, man.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know that team.
40:21
SPEAKER_00: Holy cow.
40:22
SPEAKER_00: I so that's I mean, that that's just empowering thinking about, you know, those the folks that are that you all have your little specialty and you brought them together to create this amazing thing.
40:33
SPEAKER_00: And so now the community is gonna get a benefit from that because of you know, the momentum that these folks are gonna gather and learn and work and then take out to their own communities.
40:44
SPEAKER_00: That's great.
40:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the trickle down should be fantastic.
40:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, that's because people are doing such good things, but we don't always hear about them.
40:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so we can get the word out, then ultimately that should help more people who need the services, yeah.
40:58
SPEAKER_01: So and um, and then they're gonna bring people to your next one, and then they're gonna be clear to your next one.
41:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
41:11
SPEAKER_00: So you've also been hands-on with events like the women in powered market and the nonprofit party.
41:17
SPEAKER_00: How does event planning fit into bigger picture of what you're building right now?
41:21
SPEAKER_00: Because we've talked about the cause marketing and marketing for good, and you know, let's take them as some events.
41:28
SPEAKER_00: Yes, events are great.
41:29
SPEAKER_00: I love events.
41:31
SPEAKER_00: I know, yeah.
41:32
SPEAKER_00: Me too.
41:33
SPEAKER_01: Love you like events, Jen.
41:36
unknown: Yeah.
41:39
SPEAKER_01: I do too.
41:40
SPEAKER_01: I like events and I like planning events.
41:44
SPEAKER_01: I so I've been running the Women Empowered Market for several years.
41:48
SPEAKER_01: There was there was a group that kind of founded it.
41:51
SPEAKER_01: And so that's all fair trade and women-owned businesses local.
41:56
SPEAKER_01: And that's happening at International Women's Day every year.
42:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:01
SPEAKER_01: So that that's still part of the rhythm, and that still fits into my larger umbrella of promoting good causes.
42:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:08
SPEAKER_01: And so I've been having it, it's funny that we're talking about I've been having all these conversations with myself, like which are the things, which are the priorities, which do I spend time on?
42:17
SPEAKER_01: Because as an entrepreneur, gig worker, freelancer, you know.
42:21
unknown: Yeah.
42:22
unknown: Yeah.
42:22
SPEAKER_01: We need to balance out like which are the things we know we need to consistently do and try new.
42:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:28
SPEAKER_01: And so I may have one umbrella.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:33
SPEAKER_01: Correct.
42:36
SPEAKER_01: That is an umbrella would be a good look.
42:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:39
unknown: Yeah.
42:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:40
SPEAKER_01: Or an event tip.
42:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for markets.
42:48
SPEAKER_01: That's good.
42:49
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's great.
42:50
SPEAKER_01: Um, oh, the nonprofit party is a new venture uh with Jay again with others.
42:56
SPEAKER_01: So, like I said, Jay's been getting together.
42:59
SPEAKER_01: She already runs the group, gathered for nonprofits.
43:02
SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
43:03
SPEAKER_01: Runs the it is called the continuum of care for vulnerable vulnerable children and families.
43:09
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
43:09
SPEAKER_01: In Sedgwood County.
43:11
SPEAKER_01: So they get together, lots of nonprofits that are doing all this different stuff for kids in foster care or kids at risk of being removed from their home or like families who need stability, the whole like range of stuff.
43:23
SPEAKER_01: So they connect the agencies so we can all talk to each other and do the best for the families.
43:29
SPEAKER_01: So Jay is talking about now, and along with a team of other nonprofit folks, and she asked me to come help too, and I'm very excited about it.
43:38
SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, it's going to be in the spring, but a gathering, a bunch of nonprofits to share with each other about their services, but also people who want to volunteer can come learn about their services.
43:48
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's so good.
43:49
SPEAKER_01: And people who might need a service can come learn, and maybe the same person is going to, you know, for different reasons.
43:55
SPEAKER_01: Um, because we're all like you're helping.
43:57
SPEAKER_01: I think that's great.
43:58
SPEAKER_01: Like you said, a lot of nonprofits don't have people to spread the word about what their services are, and then people that need them don't even know about them.
44:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
44:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so if there's people dreaming.
44:07
SPEAKER_01: Up like kids' activities and carnival, like uh rain at the end.
44:12
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, but it's gonna be really fun.
44:15
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be really fun.
44:16
SPEAKER_01: That'll be good, yeah.
44:17
SPEAKER_01: Fun and productive, it's not like bring a lot, like kind of breaks together a lot of different communities, yes, and just celebrate nonprofits working together.
44:26
SPEAKER_01: There's this myth in town.
44:27
SPEAKER_01: Maybe you've heard that nonprofits don't talk to each other, and more and more people are working on that, and they're very great frustrated when they're like the when the general public is saying, yeah, that they don't communicate.
44:39
SPEAKER_01: Why don't they talk to each other?
44:40
SPEAKER_02: Because they don't get you know the time or the energy to be able to market it well or advertise their services because yeah, but there's a lot of people, yeah.
44:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's crazy how everything's been thrown together.
44:53
SPEAKER_00: I know, like it is overlap in certain areas.
44:59
SPEAKER_00: But so if someone in Wichita is doing good work, but they don't know yet how to talk about it, what's the first thing that you would tell them?
45:10
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think before you get to the deep ethical storytelling kinds of stuff, you probably start with the basic marketing.
45:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:20
SPEAKER_01: What are what are our values as an organization and what do we want to say, and what are we solving, what are the stories we want to tell.
45:28
SPEAKER_01: And then when you get to those stories, you're building in what are the ethics of how do we care for the people.
45:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, so to get started with that, usually I recommend like a checklist of what are the rules that we have for our content, every content before it goes out, every piece of story, every photo.
45:48
SPEAKER_01: And so it might just be a few questions is honoring the person, what I want this said about me.
45:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, yeah, golden rule, right?
45:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, so it can start out very simply.
45:59
SPEAKER_01: There's a whole lot more discussion to be had about informed consent, and people know where their story's going.
46:04
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, there's like layers and layers of rabbit holes in there.
46:09
SPEAKER_01: But I mean, I think that's where I would start.
46:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
46:13
SPEAKER_02: I think that makes sense.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh, where would you start?
46:16
SPEAKER_00: That's yeah, I think goal setting and really thinking through the kind of stories that you want to drive home.
46:22
SPEAKER_00: For me, it's always gonna start with a content calendar and like ideas for things that I want to put out into the universe and why yeah always comes back to why am I saying this?
46:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, very similar to what you said.
46:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but marketing mind, you know, but you know I don't know, it makes the most sense to me.
46:40
SPEAKER_01: But like if you're new to it and you don't have any marketing experience, then talk to somebody that does, you know.
46:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can educate yourself first before like there might be plenty of people who try to put things, but they have no idea what the heck marketing is like, or maybe never even posted on Instagram.
46:55
SPEAKER_01: And you don't see the purpose of it, yeah.
46:56
SPEAKER_01: Or they see the purpose, they just don't know how.
46:58
SPEAKER_01: Um or they get frustrated.
47:00
SPEAKER_01: People are intimidated.
47:01
SPEAKER_01: You know, hey, I'm guilty of that.
47:03
SPEAKER_01: I don't you know I've got a social media person for that.
47:11
SPEAKER_01: Must be nice.
47:16
SPEAKER_01: I think that's why your events are super important too, because it gives people that don't even have that little bit covered yet.
47:22
SPEAKER_01: It gives them an opportunity to reach out to and be surrounded by that community.
47:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
47:27
SPEAKER_01: So that they do know how to get involved or yeah, get help or get someone they know help.
47:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and mostly that's gathered who's been doing those already, networking for nonprofits.
47:36
SPEAKER_01: And so they're just wanting to like grow this into a bigger.
47:41
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
47:45
SPEAKER_00: Okay, you mentioned intentional living has become a bigger focus for you personally.
47:51
SPEAKER_00: What does that actually look like day-to-day?
47:55
SPEAKER_01: Well, this is um, I mean, fair trade is one of the ways, you know, it's all like taking steps in the right direction.
48:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I hope.
48:03
SPEAKER_01: Um so I kind of started learning about fair trade and making more purposeful choices with my spending, with my health, you know, making purposeful food choices and getting outside in nature and riding our bike.
48:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've seen a lot of those videos.
48:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
48:19
SPEAKER_01: Rob and I are trying to make that lifestyle part of our movie.
48:24
SPEAKER_01: I would suggest throwing a tree climb in there.
48:26
SPEAKER_01: And so we will be very excited about the tree climb.
48:32
SPEAKER_01: We'd love to go to Oak Park actually and walk that trail to be walking also.
48:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, but yeah, this is some good trees.
48:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's some good trees around there too.
48:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, lots of those out there.
48:49
SPEAKER_01: Beware.
48:50
SPEAKER_01: On a daily, yeah, that's something I'm still working on.
48:54
SPEAKER_01: Like making choices on purpose, making space for rest, because that's not my natural inclination.
49:03
SPEAKER_01: It's more about like get things done, get things done.
49:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
49:07
SPEAKER_01: I've been reading a book very slowly over like two years called Rest is Resistance.
49:12
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
49:12
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
49:12
SPEAKER_01: And it's very deep.
49:14
SPEAKER_01: Okay, this all gets really deep.
49:16
SPEAKER_01: All this discussion, right?
49:20
SPEAKER_01: But it's like resistance to like being told our bodies are on a machine and just to get things done.
49:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
49:27
SPEAKER_01: And so she talks like extreme capitalism.
49:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
49:30
SPEAKER_01: Now, listen, I'm not complaining about capitalism.
49:33
SPEAKER_01: It's done good things for us too.
49:35
SPEAKER_03: Uh huh.
49:35
SPEAKER_01: That's my caveat.
49:36
SPEAKER_01: But this author is saying, like, taking to its extreme, we're just looking at people for what they can produce.
49:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
49:43
SPEAKER_01: And so I'm working on being a person as well as a producer of stuff.
49:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:51
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
49:53
SPEAKER_01: That time to definitely do that.
49:55
SPEAKER_01: Getting out nature and all that does help.
49:57
SPEAKER_01: It does help.
49:58
SPEAKER_01: Because it's a different kind of rest.
49:59
SPEAKER_01: Yes, you know, it's a different kind of different than like watching TV.
50:03
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
50:04
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
50:04
SPEAKER_01: It's true.
50:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
50:06
SPEAKER_01: We do.
50:06
SPEAKER_01: We need all of it.
50:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
50:07
SPEAKER_01: Well, I don't know if we need any TV.
50:09
SPEAKER_01: We need nature.
50:10
SPEAKER_00: Definitely need nature.
50:11
SPEAKER_00: I watch a lot of nature.
50:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:19
SPEAKER_00: Well, I love that.
50:20
SPEAKER_00: It's just intentional.
50:22
SPEAKER_00: I I you know, I I feel like everyone can learn a little bit from that too.
50:26
SPEAKER_00: Like just whatever you do in your daily why, why are you doing that?
50:30
SPEAKER_00: You know, what are the effects of of what you're doing?
50:33
SPEAKER_00: You know, no matter what it is.
50:35
SPEAKER_00: Could be just smiling at somebody on the sidewalk, you know.
50:39
SPEAKER_00: I've heard changes, could change their entire day, you never know.
50:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:42
SPEAKER_00: So that's something that I've always remembered since I was a little person.
50:45
SPEAKER_00: Somebody said it to me, like, smile at somebody, smile at a stranger, you never know what they're going through.
50:50
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you know what?
50:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna take that life with me.
50:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's a it's a tiny little thing, but it's free, and I think it makes a big difference.
50:59
SPEAKER_00: Well, it makes us happen when you smile, actually.
51:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it makes you happy.
51:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, makes you power credit.
51:04
SPEAKER_01: Just graphics.
51:06
SPEAKER_01: I think we can learn things from other people too if I slow down and pay attention.
51:10
SPEAKER_01: Like part of the storytelling journey is like not just I'm going to teach someone if I'm like a volunteer or exactly, yeah.
51:20
SPEAKER_01: Equalizing of people.
51:22
SPEAKER_01: That's something that don't take a lot of time to do, and anything like mindfulness with just ourselves or mindfulness, you know, even Jen and I, we spend a lot of time together, and then sometimes it's like, wait, we need to like sit and like not be doing our things that we're doing.
51:37
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's about just friend time, yeah.
51:41
SPEAKER_01: You know, I think a lot of relationships could probably say the same thing of all types of relationships that are or you know, even stranger, stranger, same thing, you know, like or people that haven't seen each other in a long time, you know.
51:53
SPEAKER_01: So mindfulness and intention are definitely things we bring up a lot, yeah, like on our podcasts.
51:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, I've heard that's and I guess romanticizing the moments in a way kind of does set that to make me mindful.
52:05
SPEAKER_01: So it does just daily moments, yeah.
52:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, with a daily moments, and then even just thinking all the way around to people being, you know, for items or whatnot, like yeah, and everything we purchased.
52:17
SPEAKER_00: It's a full circle.
52:18
SPEAKER_00: It is, it is a full circle.
52:20
SPEAKER_00: I love the native system, it's fantastic, and it's a trickle down as well.
52:24
SPEAKER_00: Like we touched on a lot of those things today, and this episode went exactly where I wanted it to go.
52:30
SPEAKER_01: Oh, but did you leave anything out there you wanted to bring it?
52:33
SPEAKER_00: Did we leave anything out?
52:37
SPEAKER_00: No, I think you want it then.
52:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we covered so much today, and uh really I learned so much more.
52:44
SPEAKER_00: Like this an unintentional catch-up session, but kind of intentional as well.
52:50
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was part of the community, but also selfishly, I have learned so much about what you've got going on because I know you and I see each other in passing a lot, but at the same time, like I'm busy, you're busy, we're networking, there's other people to chit chat with, or we're co-working like the other day in the coffee shop, you know, and it you know, it's just there's the time to sit down and you know, like what Rachel and I said, spend that intentional time with your friends and with your loved ones.
53:18
SPEAKER_00: It's nice.
53:19
SPEAKER_00: It's nice.
53:20
SPEAKER_00: So this I feel like this went exactly where I wanted to go.
53:23
SPEAKER_00: Now let's build on it.
53:25
SPEAKER_00: Um so I guess the next thing is will you please share with everyone how they can find you in Allegory Affair?
53:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
53:33
SPEAKER_01: So I have several things going on.
53:35
SPEAKER_01: Uh Allegree Affair is on Instagram and Facebook.
53:38
SPEAKER_01: I have a linked, a link tree that's about Katie that might be a better place to find all the stuff.
53:44
SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay, perfect.
53:45
SPEAKER_00: Link tree.
53:46
SPEAKER_00: Gotcha.
53:46
SPEAKER_00: Very good.
53:47
SPEAKER_00: And you're also on your personal Katie Mundanay's as well.
53:51
SPEAKER_00: So find her there.
53:52
SPEAKER_00: And then physically, where can we find all of this off in this?
53:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes.
53:57
SPEAKER_01: So I'm trying to keep my Facebook events page updated, but the Hometown Farm and Art Market every Saturday, 8 to 1.
54:03
SPEAKER_01: Okay, in November, December to 10 to 1.
54:06
SPEAKER_01: Holiday season.
54:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
54:08
SPEAKER_01: We'll get out all the fun holiday decor and nativity scenes.
54:12
unknown: Yeah.
54:13
SPEAKER_01: And then the alternative gift market is a big annual thing they let me be a part of in November, November 14th.
54:21
SPEAKER_01: It's um typically just charity gifts, like you sponsor a built for a child in somewhere another part of the world.
54:28
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
54:28
SPEAKER_01: Or a sewing machine for a woman to start a business.
54:31
SPEAKER_01: So it's really cool.
54:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
54:32
SPEAKER_01: So then they let a few like tangible goods, things in and a fair trade.
54:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
54:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a really great community there and well, all of these places.
54:44
SPEAKER_01: And then I have a booth at Paramount Marketplace at Springfin would love.
54:47
SPEAKER_01: And it's a workroom in the ballroom collective upstairs.
54:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
54:50
SPEAKER_01: So a lot of places.
54:52
SPEAKER_01: So many good places.
54:53
SPEAKER_01: So many good places.
54:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're spread throughout much time.
54:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:58
SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you so much for being our lovely guest tonight.
55:02
SPEAKER_00: Wonderful hosting you.
55:03
SPEAKER_00: Love learning more about Fair Trade and everything you're doing.
55:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:11
SPEAKER_00: We'd love to learn about it.
55:12
SPEAKER_00: Thank you to our audience, you guys have been in person.
55:17
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55:27
SPEAKER_00: We love you guys.
55:28
SPEAKER_00: Thank you all so much.
55:30
SPEAKER_00: Cheers again.
55:30
SPEAKER_00: Cheers again.
55:31
SPEAKER_00: This has been episode 61 of So This Happened, and we will see you all soon.
55:35
SPEAKER_00: Bye.
55:36
SPEAKER_00: Bye.