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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 16 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football. You're running the
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  Speaker 1: gun broke, he's got Jimmy first, got twenty five cuckdown
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  Speaker 1: when it is victory Monday, December sixteen. This is Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans.
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  Speaker 1: And now who's constantly being reminded that he's number one?
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  Speaker 1: J P. Cha not as not as much as Tony
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  Speaker 1: was on Sunday. Yeah, they're friendly fans in Oakland. They
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  Speaker 1: thought very highly of me. They kept on telling me
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  Speaker 1: you're number one, You're number one, and I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, that kind of them, very kind. Welcome Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. My name is
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  Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick, his name is Tony Baselly. Pete Prisco
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  Speaker 1: is of us down in South Florida as well. We've
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  Speaker 1: got some things to discuss this afternoon, gentlemen. We'll start off,
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  Speaker 1: of course, with the Jags over the Raiders, twenty six
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  Speaker 1: team Minshew magic in that game to get him back
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  Speaker 1: in it, the second half shutout by the defense, social
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  Speaker 1: media questions, and we'll go around the a f C
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  Speaker 1: South and the NFL. That's all coming up on the show,
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  Speaker 1: but within the last half hour or so, the nfl
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  Speaker 1: p A has put out a statement involving the Jacksonville
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars saying that the association has won a grievance against
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  Speaker 1: the Jags involving a former Jaguars player in and offseason
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  Speaker 1: rehab assignments and the finds that came with those. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the p A said they had won the grievance today
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  Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars rescinded, and then had a few statements
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  Speaker 1: in this thing as well, including you. In the last
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  Speaker 1: two years, more than of the grievances filed in the
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  Speaker 1: league have been filed against the Jaguars. You, as players,
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  Speaker 1: may want to consider this when you have a chance
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  Speaker 1: to select your next club. That was the final line
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  Speaker 1: of the statement today by the nfl p A. Um pete,
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  Speaker 1: what do you make of all this? UM? I would
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  Speaker 1: expect it would be Tom Coffin making the statement only
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  Speaker 1: because that would be outside of just the play on
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  Speaker 1: the field. It's the whole organization and the deal of
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  Speaker 1: the players. We'll see if there's a statement from him. Um,
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  Speaker 1: But overall, just not good. I mean, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: it's a grievance here or there. That's not a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: What happens. But so like the fact that they lost
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  Speaker 1: the grievance to the un named player, Okay, big deal.
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  Speaker 1: The line that just shook me, like made you step
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  Speaker 1: back and think it was of all grievance go against
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  Speaker 1: this club. That was the number. Um that you're kind
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  Speaker 1: of like, wow, that's ah, that's not good because there's
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  Speaker 1: always a you know, we talked about free agency and players,
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  Speaker 1: you know, making that part of the decision making process.
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  Speaker 1: If all things were equal, and that comes into it.
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  Speaker 1: There's a competitive disadvantage there, but it also affects your
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  Speaker 1: locker room. Your current locker room is affected by that
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  Speaker 1: because if guys are ticked off at the organization, that
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  Speaker 1: makes it a harder job for the head coach to
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  Speaker 1: keep everyone together and on the same page. And so
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  Speaker 1: that's another competitive disadvantage. Um not good. I mean, none
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  Speaker 1: of it's good. Tony. I gotta ask you this, when
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  Speaker 1: when you played, who do you think was a team
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  Speaker 1: that led the league in grievances? Pete, I have no idea,
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  Speaker 1: but based on how you asked the questions, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, every week there was something else going on
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  Speaker 1: with Tom and stretching the rules and not reporting injuries
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  Speaker 1: and then everything else. And so this is not a surprise.
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  Speaker 1: He's a very rigid, very demanding man, and when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to things like this, he's gonna hold a hardline
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  Speaker 1: stance on it. And and this does not surprise me
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  Speaker 1: one bit. Seven d thousand dollars in fines for being
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  Speaker 1: missing training sessions and andre exorbitant to me during a
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  Speaker 1: voluntary time. That's the big thing, at least from the
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  Speaker 1: view of the p A. And that's exorbitant to me
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  Speaker 1: even if it wasn't. I mean, it's just look, there
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  Speaker 1: are certain times you go after players for your grievance money,
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  Speaker 1: and in grievance there are certain times that you just
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  Speaker 1: have to let it go. And sometimes in the past,
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  Speaker 1: and you know this, Thomas pushed and pushed and pushed.
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  Speaker 1: How many times did log him and go to the
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  Speaker 1: p A and complain about Tom's practices and the way
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  Speaker 1: he was doing things a ton, So it's not a
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  Speaker 1: surprise to me. The number that's a surprise at all grievances,
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  Speaker 1: that's a big number. And I mean, you know, players talking,
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  Speaker 1: and especially when you're not winning, it affects the locker
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  Speaker 1: room even greater, makes it harder to do everything. And
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  Speaker 1: I guess what, and I in each of these are
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  Speaker 1: individual cases, so it's hard to like make these blankets statements.
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  Speaker 1: But the CBA is pretty clear, Pete, And like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not like I was never the big union guy, was
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  Speaker 1: a part of the union. You know, I just gotta
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  Speaker 1: go about your business, do your job. But the c
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  Speaker 1: BA is very clear on like what you could ask
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  Speaker 1: players to do and what they don't have to do
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  Speaker 1: at certain times of the year and just live by that.
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  Speaker 1: It is what it is. That's what's been negotiating between
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  Speaker 1: the owners and the union, and we I don't like listen,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even like all the rules that, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna file a grievance, file a grievance against Joe. Another
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  Speaker 1: surgery on that broken down body that hurts. That's the first.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the first time in the studio anyway. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's not like I love all the rules, like the
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  Speaker 1: union negotiate and protect players like this limited to you
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  Speaker 1: know how many times you can have contact during the season,
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's too short of a period in
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  Speaker 1: the offseason that you can have guys to work with,
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  Speaker 1: especially young players, so I don't love them. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not like here defending the union. But guess what those
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  Speaker 1: are the rules? And and here's the thing that you
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  Speaker 1: know drives me a little bit crazy because as coaches
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  Speaker 1: in front office people, we want players to follow the
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  Speaker 1: rules that we set forth for them, and they should.
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  Speaker 1: But guess what the shoe has to put the shoe
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  Speaker 1: on the other foot. What's good for the gooser is
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  Speaker 1: good for the gander. If that's the case, the front
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  Speaker 1: offices and the coaches have to respect the rules and
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  Speaker 1: follow the rules of the c b A. And if
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  Speaker 1: you're not, that's a problem. It should not be that hard.
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  Speaker 1: It should not be that hard. Well, think about this
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  Speaker 1: for a second. Jalen Ramsey was traded in large part
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  Speaker 1: because there was a rift between him and Tom. And
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  Speaker 1: when you go back to the origin of that rift,
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  Speaker 1: what is it. Well, it started that this offseason when
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  Speaker 1: he called out him and Talvin about not being there
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  Speaker 1: at the off season program, which is voluntary, which he
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  Speaker 1: you're not supposed to do. Very clear in the c
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  Speaker 1: b A. You're not supposed to make you know, how
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  Speaker 1: Tom is when he has a voluntary program for a
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  Speaker 1: team he wants everybody there. It doesn't matter if he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter what. It's a rule, because guess what, here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing. And I would tell Tom this, like Tom
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  Speaker 1: had a rule when I played here, you had to win.
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  Speaker 1: You couldn't wear white sox in the road. I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was a dumb rule. I thought it was ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: I told him, I thought was a dumb rule. Has
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  Speaker 1: nothing to do with me blocking anybody. Why do I
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  Speaker 1: can't I wear white sox? I like white socks. I
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  Speaker 1: want to wear white socks. What does it matter? Guess what?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't wear white sox because he was the boss.
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  Speaker 1: It's his the team rule, and he made a rule,
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  Speaker 1: and so I had to follow it, whether I liked
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  Speaker 1: it or not. I'm sorry if he doesn't like the rule.
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  Speaker 1: That things aren't my mandatory. He still has to fall.
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  Speaker 1: We have to follow them as an organization and what
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  Speaker 1: and don't know the specific but I mean, we know
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  Speaker 1: that happened because it was said in a press conference,
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know what the nature of these grievances are.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't want to step too far. But it's
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  Speaker 1: just the principle, no different than what was expected as
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  Speaker 1: me as a player from this organization, but the rules
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  Speaker 1: set by Tom Coughlin was my boss, my head coach,
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  Speaker 1: and under the if I wanted to be a Jackson Jaguar,
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  Speaker 1: I had to follow his rules. Always a grievance. There
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  Speaker 1: was a grievance filed on on the behalf of Leonard Fournett.
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  Speaker 1: That much. We know when when they find it. For
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  Speaker 1: for that situation on the sideline when he was sitting
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  Speaker 1: on the bench, and I think from what I've heard
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  Speaker 1: just rumblings, I don't I don't think they won that grievance.
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  Speaker 1: I think he did. He got his money. The f
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  Speaker 1: line was rescinded. So look the worst line of the
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  Speaker 1: entire thing, Tony. Before we go to the worst line,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to like, unless you know every single
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  Speaker 1: um grievance and really understand every rule the c b A,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know either. I know the basics, but it's
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  Speaker 1: a simple thing, no different to me, Like if I
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  Speaker 1: was talking to players, this is easy, Like there's rules
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  Speaker 1: like if your rules of your team is to be
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  Speaker 1: on time and do X, Y and Z, just be
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  Speaker 1: on time, do X, y and Z. As long as
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't as long as it does not violate the
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  Speaker 1: c b A. Just do it like you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to like it. A lot of us don't like some
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  Speaker 1: of the rules, but just do it because that's the
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  Speaker 1: way the organization works, and that's the way it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: make it better for everyone, including yourself. The same message
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  Speaker 1: should be to the front office and the coaches, like,
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  Speaker 1: this is the rules, here's the c b A. This
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  Speaker 1: is what your boss, the owners negotiating with the PA.
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  Speaker 1: So these are the rules. Guess what, it's not that hard.
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  Speaker 1: Just follow them. It's voluntary until this date. And if
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  Speaker 1: they don't hold that against them, you can't hold against them.
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  Speaker 1: Don't say anything. You don't have to like it. That's
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  Speaker 1: the world. They're not violating any rule, they're not doing
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  Speaker 1: anything wrong. It's not immoral, there's nothing at all. So
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  Speaker 1: just like it's just part of the deal. Let me
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  Speaker 1: ask this, Let me ask this. Why why was this
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  Speaker 1: done in such a public way today of all days
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  Speaker 1: by the p a UM what my guests today was
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  Speaker 1: because it just came down. It's a huge fine, a huge,
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  Speaker 1: huge win for the union, huge win for the union,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean that's it probably just got decided it's
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  Speaker 1: a big win, it's a big dog ar amount, and
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  Speaker 1: they're probably wanting to make a statement saying like enough enough,
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  Speaker 1: like all these grievances are from one team or the
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  Speaker 1: like a big number, a big percentage, and so we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna take a shot across the bow and
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  Speaker 1: say this is what we think. It's my guest, it's
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  Speaker 1: no different than you know what was like two years ago,
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  Speaker 1: Seattle had an extra practice or had contact they weren't
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  Speaker 1: supposed to. PA came out. PA came out, made a
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  Speaker 1: big statement. See me doing this, and we're taking away practice.
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  Speaker 1: We've agreed with the NFL. Takeaway from David it happened
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  Speaker 1: to the races, like, it's not like abnormal for the
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  Speaker 1: PA to come out and make a statement. Now this
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  Speaker 1: was a strong statement. And now we've also ab normal
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  Speaker 1: to mention the amount of the fines that the amount
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  Speaker 1: of the fines was interesting In the last sentence, was
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  Speaker 1: a was a shot a roundhouse. You want to consider
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  Speaker 1: this when you have your chance to select your next club.
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  Speaker 1: Basically telling free agents on the market, beware if you
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  Speaker 1: sign with Jacksonville, Oh, it was a shot right at
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  Speaker 1: this organization and right at the front office. What does
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  Speaker 1: it mean for Tom? At Tom? What what does it
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  Speaker 1: mean for him? I don't it doesn't mean anything. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what was the report on I I didn't hear the
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  Speaker 1: report on ESPN yesterday, Um, but there was a report
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  Speaker 1: from Morton's and guys on ESPN talking about the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: I was on the air at the time, but somebody
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  Speaker 1: sent me uh something on Twitter saying that they thought
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  Speaker 1: Tom would go spend more time with his family and
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  Speaker 1: Maroon would be fired, which I told you guys, I
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  Speaker 1: thought that might happen in the first place. But what's
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  Speaker 1: that mean for Dave if that happens. Listen, one thing
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do. I'm not gonna speculate, basically, because
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  Speaker 1: the rumors are gonna start swirling the next two weeks,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of it is gonna be This is
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  Speaker 1: because this is what our business does. Our business, the media,
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  Speaker 1: and especially this time of year. You start here and
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  Speaker 1: there's zero accountability to the media in this case, they
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  Speaker 1: can say we can say whatever we want on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: We just make these blanket statements. We take shots in
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  Speaker 1: the dark. In my opinion, we hear from one source
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  Speaker 1: that's not uh collaboration, there's nothing, no collaboration, there's no confirmation,
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  Speaker 1: there's no anything, and we just put stuff out there
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  Speaker 1: and most of the time, guess what, guys, it comes
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  Speaker 1: back is not being true. Well, well not not not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily it's not true. Some people are wrong, some people
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  Speaker 1: right now. But I'm not reporting they're getting fired. I've
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  Speaker 1: never said that. But two and two weequals four. If
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  Speaker 1: you add it all up, it looks like it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a house clean listen. I mean, based on the
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  Speaker 1: performance this year and how those things are going, it
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. But I don't know that, right. So,
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  Speaker 1: but when you start, when we start reporting things, it's
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  Speaker 1: very easy. We should start reporting things that this conversion
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  Speaker 1: has been gone, this person's leaving, and I didn't report that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying you. Pete Espn said that, but Tom
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  Speaker 1: It's rumors are Tom's gonna retire, spent time his family,
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  Speaker 1: and moro own's gone, and nothing said about Dave. And
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: your question was what does that mean for Dave? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what it means for any of them because
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if any of that's true. And there's
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  Speaker 1: my whole, my whole problem with this is and nothing
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  Speaker 1: against Chris Mortons, and I like Chris Mortinson. They all
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  Speaker 1: have a job to do. Let's not forget. Half of
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  Speaker 1: the media business nowadays is entertainment. It's we're throwing a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff out there to keep people informed, to
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  Speaker 1: keep people clicking on websites. But there's no accountability. There's
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  Speaker 1: no accountability. They don't get fired. Then you can come
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  Speaker 1: back and say more it was wrong, No, but no one,
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  Speaker 1: but no one does bete. It just we move on
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  Speaker 1: to the next thing. Things happened so much, and we
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  Speaker 1: say so many different things, and listen and more, somebody
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  Speaker 1: knows people in that organization, well more, it's time and
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  Speaker 1: more is close to Tom. Right. So if if he's
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  Speaker 1: saying that Tom is going to retire and spend more
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  Speaker 1: time with his family, which we've mentioned many a time
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  Speaker 1: on this show many a time, I'm not saying it's
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  Speaker 1: not a possibility, and I'm not taking any I love
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  Speaker 1: Chris Mortons and I think he does a great job.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm not and I'm okay with you
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  Speaker 1: doing it Pete on the show. I'm not saying it's bad.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't like speculating and start making these comments
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  Speaker 1: because I don't know now do I would? I be sure?
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  Speaker 1: I'll say this. Would I be shocked if there's not
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  Speaker 1: changes based on what has happened this year, Yes, I'd
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  Speaker 1: be surprised, but I don't know what they are. Would
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  Speaker 1: it be? Let me ask you this, Tonty. It's better
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  Speaker 1: for Tom and his persona in Jacksonville to retire and
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  Speaker 1: walk away, and it is for him to get fired
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  Speaker 1: long term? Yes, I think right now, I think it
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  Speaker 1: would be viewed the same. Yeah. Probably so right now
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  Speaker 1: it would be viewed the same as people basically saying
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  Speaker 1: he was asked to retire is what people would assume.
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  Speaker 1: Just basically it's been it's not good right now. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of reports coming out the stuff happened this weekend,
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  Speaker 1: the p A, you know, the jail and stuff. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's been stuff for the last six weeks swirling around
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  Speaker 1: of negativity and a lot of speculation. And so I think,
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  Speaker 1: regardless of what happens, and I don't know what it is,
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  Speaker 1: whether he resigns or is asked to leave or anything
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  Speaker 1: in between, it's going to be viewed as it was
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  Speaker 1: time to make a change. Let's be honest, though. A
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: lot of it is self inflicted wounds here, A lot
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  Speaker 1: of it is. Yes, yes, it's always time in this league.
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  Speaker 1: It is self inflicted. Teams beat themselves, Teams make decisions
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  Speaker 1: that affect themselves. It's not no one's doing it to us.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Mark Long reported that it was Dante
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  Speaker 1: Fowler that was the unnamed player, and then within the
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  Speaker 1: last few minutes, Dante Fowler said on Twitter, quote, they
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  Speaker 1: literally hated me. I got it all back though, thanks
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  Speaker 1: to the NFL p a end quote. Yeah. I knew
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  Speaker 1: it was Dante, but I was going to say until
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  Speaker 1: it was out there. The story, well the story, but
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  Speaker 1: the statement not have a name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's
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  Speaker 1: come back. Let's talk about football when we actually will
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: come back at winning football. We just talked about football,
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  Speaker 1: winning football, talking about the game. The Jags won a
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  Speaker 1: football game. Yes, they won twenty six team. We'll recap that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll touch on the grievance stuff again a little bit
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  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Pete Priscoe. This is a victory Monday. Yeah,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I believe it or not, And I like to make
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: an announcement. Really yeah, I mean I want to be
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: humble about this. Everybody listened close. I would like to
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: be humble. But really a big part of this victory
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: was I kind of changed the the flow and kind
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of the momentum because of I started reading hards on
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the broadcast, and that energy on the broadcast translated to
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: energy on the field, and we got a football game.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Is that how it worked? We won a football game? Yeah?
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I mean I got people all over the country saying
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: that was amazing. It was really amazing everywhere. It's funny
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: how that works. I mean, players they heard about it. Like,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: what happened is I started in the first half. Did
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: you do it in Denver too? I don't remember. No,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Well I needed to I need to break the strength detail.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: And so what happened was I did in the first
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: half and word started swirling around, got to the sideline,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: rolling around like the smoke in the very very similar
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: to and yes, J wait a second he read cards.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: That means you read like that commercial commercial and I
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: got and if that got back to the team, they
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: would have started fumbling, just like I got back to it,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: got back to the team. And that's why the second
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: and half run happened because they said, if he is
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: going to go to bat for us like that and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: bring that kind of passion to the broadcast, we're gonna
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: bring it to the field. That was the difference. I mean,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I don't want I mean, that's what people are telling me.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: At least insurance office of a pet. The weed was
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: out of control, like to the point where you know
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the oak You've been Oakland, You've been the press box,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and so we're up, you know, fift from the stands
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: below us, and the windows are open and you'd be
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: sitting there and this just waff of smoke in uh
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: stinky weed odor would come into the booth and by
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the end, I mean, it's like, I hope I don't
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: get drug tested this week, because it's we're all we're
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: all failing and you look over and you look over
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: and they're just passing joints like it's like at the beach.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I guess the best question, though, is how did you
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: know that's what the smell was? Yeah, Joe told me,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: were producing Yeah, innocent tony over here. It could have
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: been barbecue or something. I don't know, they were barbecuing something,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: but it was not it wasn't m holy it was.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: It was I think it was. Chris Conley said you
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: could smell it on on the field, right, And I
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: remember that even back in like it was worst sideline.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: But I'm sure it was a special I mean, I've
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: been arrest What happened after the game. There was like
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: a little mini riot after the game. It wasn't I mean,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: there was a handful of guys that jumped on the field.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: They all got hand just just just completely demolished by
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  Speaker 1: the police. Um. There were some fights in the stands,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and then there was debris coming in from there everywhere,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: hit some people. Then they were on the dugout ripping
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the Oakland Raider banners. I mean, it was just gass.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: And then then I might have I might have started
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: yelling at some of the fans below us, and then
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: they had and then then I walked out in the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: joe handled them. And apparently they closed the field after
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: that and didn't let any of the media people back
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: out to do their on field hits or anything. It
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: was none of that. It was stuck flying water balls
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: flying from the top deck. The best was so I
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: leaned over and these people are yewing at us, you know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: cut and I sat there for a moment. I'm like,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I can just sit here and just walk away, or
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I can engage. I decided to engage. How did that?
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Don't do that? It was great? It was perfect. That
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: is a dump by the way, dump dump Because well,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't run away. I just I got tired of
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: dealing with them, and then I had to hang out
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the window and get the antennas were they were they
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: waiting to get hit with the bottom. You scared him?
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I scared. I told him, I said, you want some,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: come get some? You know that? Did you? Did you
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: guys stay in Oakland? No, we stayed. We stayed at
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: a beautiful hotel four seasons. I believe it was great
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: out in paulo Ato. Okay, right, Joe, is that where
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: we were? That's correct, That's correct. I wasn't there. It
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: was nice too, wasn't it. You weren't even there. I
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: wasn't there. But when back in the day, Tony, back
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: in the day, you guys stayed in downtown Oakland because
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: we stayed at that hotel, I remember that. Yeah, I don't.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'll say this. The ride was a
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: little bit long, and we hit traffic because they were
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: tailgating early. I mean we left the hotel at eight thirty.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: It's you know, forty five minute ride, and we were hitting.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: We's got stuck in traffic. It was in. The place
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: was packed. Cops had to stop cars let us in
• 25:56
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• 25:59
  Speaker 1: so for Angie, who's still out on vacation. I'm not
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: sure he actually does a radio show anymore and doesn't
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: work very much. Right, Yeah, he's on vacation. It's his
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: wife's fiftieth birthday or whatever it is. She looks like
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: she's thirty. Um, And so he went out early to
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: San Francisco and was gonna stay late. So he didn't
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: fly with us. He didn't stay at the team He
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: stayed in San Francisco, and he was gonna meet us
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: at the stadium the day of the game, which was
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: a mistake. He should have ubered to our hotel, came
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: to the team bus. He didn't stay in the cocoon
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: is as long as he So he's got he's got
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: a parking pass, whatever he has. He's gonna drive his
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: rental car to the stadium and then meet us. In
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the booth well two and a half miles out from
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the stadium, he blows a tire on his rental car,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: so he has to pull on this gas station called
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the rental car says, lest you gotta come pick this up.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: He has no way to get this dame now, So
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: he walks two and a half miles through the Sea
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: of Humanity with his Jaguar logold God, through scenic Oakland.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: And he's like, he said, he says, I might die.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: He was afraid for his life, but he said credit
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to the And this was they were obviously still sober. Uh,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: they were all in the right mind still. And he
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: said the Oakland fans were great going in And uh,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: he should have covered his logo up. I mean, that's
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a smart thing to do. I would have I would
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: have bought a Raider's t shirt. Yeah than that, maybe
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: not all of you, Pete J. P. Tony. With two
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: and a half hours to game time, wouldn't you just
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: change the tire? Well, yes we would. Frank's not get
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: his hands, get his hands dirty. Come on, yeah, it
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: would take you twenty minutes. It would take you less
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: time to change the time, or then it wouldn't have
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: walk the two and a half miles. But let's come back.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about the game when we come back,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the actual game, come back and Gardner minshew, the touchdowns,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the defense, the whole deal. We do that. Let's do
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: that when we come back. It was a horrible first half.
• 28:07
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  Speaker 1: That's all the celebration after the Jacks win in Oakland yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: to win out in Oakland. Um, I think we had
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  Speaker 1: was me. Um, you did not, Yes, I did go
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  Speaker 1: And the Raiders stink by the way. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: That was that was I didn't see that one coming.
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  Speaker 1: They played hard the first half of this game. At halftime,
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  Speaker 1: the statistics and half are just just ugly. Seven team
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  Speaker 1: to two was the first down total in favor of
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  Speaker 1: Oakland in the first half. UM and then, of course
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the time of possession twenty one minutes. The Raiders held
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  Speaker 1: the ball in the first half. The Jacks had nothing
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  Speaker 1: going on offense. They didn't have a lot going on
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  Speaker 1: defense earlier. They switched it around at halftime. Well no,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: actually they switched around after the first drive. In this
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  Speaker 1: sense on defense, they were still giving up three yards
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  Speaker 1: between the twenties, but they played it was like the
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  Speaker 1: in the red zone as they got down. They got
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  Speaker 1: some negative plays even after drives that had you know, five, six,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: seven plays, then you get a sack, force a penalty,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and next thing you know, it's third and twenty. And
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: so they did some They did some things on defense
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: after that first drive. When they came they hustled, they
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: made plays and kept on fighting and they made the
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders earn everything. They didn't give them anything easy.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: And because of that, the Oakland Raiders aren't very good
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: football team and they couldn't do it. And I thought
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: so defensively after that first drive, I thought, you know,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: it wasn't great. Second half was very good. The rest
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: of the first half. The numbers weren't great, but they
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: did want to take to keep their team in the
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: ball game by forcing field goals after the opening touchdown,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and that's all you can do. And they get and
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: they get thag Derek Carr for stupidity at the end
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: of the game, which which one when he left time
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: on the cloth. Well, it's not it's not his fault
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: that the officials blew the call when he slid and
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: he's in bounds. Pete, we had to play a game
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: after that throwing the ball, Okay, then we'll time out.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Let's go through the end of the game. And so
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I actually don't put this on Derek car I put
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: it on John Gruden, number one, he's the coach. They
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: start the four minute drive with about five minutes left.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: They were snapping the ball with ten thirteen seconds left
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: in the play clock. A lot of times. Yeah, I
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: didn't understand that at all, which is so like, if
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you just to give everyone to go to context, if
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: you have six plays in that drive, which I think
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: they had more than that, let's just say it's six.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: That's a oh, that's over a minute of time that
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: you kept on the clock that should have been gone,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: but they did not. That adds up. So then they
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: get down and they were second to nine to twenty
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: left in the in the game, in the in the
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: game at twenty two something like that they run a
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: zone read we're perfectly I think I think they got
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: away with a little bit of hold on cleitro, But
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: forget that. Derrick Carter is what you're supposed to do.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: He initiates the slide inbounds. His knee is down a
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: yard before the out of bounds marker. For whatever reason,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the officials blew it, and they stopped the clock with
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: two oh five instead of letting it run down to
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the two minute warning. So now it's first and ten
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: with two oh five. That's a forty second mistake, right
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: because of the and the fact that that's not a
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: reviewable play is a mistake the officials blew it, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the fact that no one like Gruden said something but
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like that should be that costs him the game.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: The game is probably over if the official just plays
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: by the rules, because guess what, if he was going
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: for a first down, he initiated the slide before the
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: first down sticks wherever his knee hit, he'd be down,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: not slide. Or if you give yourself up in any way,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: shape or form, anywhere, you're down, Yeah, he's down. And
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: who cares if he slid out of bounce That doesn't
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: matter matter where you begin the slide. So they blew it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: So then it's for now. This is where Gruden, in
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: my opinion, it started not telling their car to snap
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the ball with like two seconds in the play cock.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Now this is where it gets off the off the rails.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: They're so mad that the official blew this. They're not
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: paying attention to the play cock. They're not organized. Somebody
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: on the sidelines in the booth has to be saying, coach,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: call time out. We can't take a penalty here because
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: first and fifteen and a four minute offense is very
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: different than first and ten. So they should have called
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: the time out. They did not. Then he throws a
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: challenge flag. Here comes another mistake by the officials. He
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: throws a challenge flag on a play that is not
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: challengeable and by rule pete correct me if I'm wrong,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to lose a time out at that point. Correct.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: The officials take away the time out from him, blew
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: that part. Now it's first and fifteen, two oh five.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: What do you do on first and fifteen and two
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: or five when the clock is gonna stop of the
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: two more two minute warning? No matter what you throw
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: the ball. I said it on the broadcast. Throw the
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: ball here. You need to get back ahead of the
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: change where you should be on still a two minute
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: warning anywhere, two minute warning anyways, it's not it's doesn't matter.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: They should have run a naked bootleg. Soe the run.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Get the Jags going easy completion, maybe pick up five, six,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: seven yards or whatever. They don't. They hand it off.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Game two, Now we get to the two warning. Handed
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: off again, they get three two or three Jags used
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: your last time out. Now Here it comes the next mistake,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, you're in field goal range. It's third
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and eleven. What do you do? You run the ball
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: because right now your percentage of picking up third and
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: eleven in any situation, any part of the game is
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: not high. Well, even if he complete that pass, he's
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: not getting okay exactly, But you don't even take a
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: chance of anything bad happening by throwing the ball. Because
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: a drop stops the clock, you run it. You run
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: another forty seconds off the clock. Then you call time out.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: You kick a field goal, even if you miss it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: The Jaguars get the ball back with fifty five two
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: minute oh five. Right in those right right. If they
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: would have done that, the game would have gone to
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: overtime because the Jags would have the ball. If you
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: if you back, if you go, what happened where they
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: were with five seconds left or forty five seconds left
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: to the game, because that's what they cost them forty
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: seconds by not running the ball instead of throwing it
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: that forty seconds they were about the thirty. It would
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: have been a forty eight yard field more so right,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: which would have been a long field goal to tie
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the game tonight. That is all coaching. Now go back
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: to the first half with John Gruden. This I know,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: and I like John. He makes ten million dollars years.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I have no problem criticizing when you're the highest Spade
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: coach and you're supposed to be, like, be really good.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: At this end of the first half, they have two
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: time outs, They get the ball on the r twenty
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: a minute eleven left, No seven, they run a draw,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: get nine. Don't call time out. I'm okay with that
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: because you're backed up. Let's see if we can get
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: a call a screen, get thirty. What do you do
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: after a thirty yard play with under a minute left
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: when you have two time outs? You call time out.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Are you're talking about? Have the screen passed the rich
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: down fifty seven seconds to one seconds? They wasted twenty
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: five seconds five seconds call time out. Now it's fifty
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: five seconds. You're on their side of the field. You
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: have one time out, perfect perfect. Instead, you know what
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: they did through an incomplete passed. Now they have two
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: time amounts to seconds left two seconds and they never
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: used one of them. He went to the locker room
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: with the pocket in his with the time out in
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: his pocket. They're terrible, terrible clock manager. They were on
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the first and go on the eight. They should have
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: three shots at the end zone. They only had one. Right.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Situational coaching in the NFL is awful, Tony, And you're right.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: The announcers half the time don't even mention it. Half
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: that stuff like how do you I'll give you one,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I'll give you one. At the end that you guys
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: were at, your game was going on. At the end
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: of the forty Niners game against Atlanta, the Falcons actually
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: score touchdown, they review it, they overturn it, which probably
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: should have been overturned. They had one that had three
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I think it was two seconds left. They score Julio
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Jones goes across the line, they review it, call it
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: a touchdown. The Falcons send out there two point team,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: take a snap and take a knee. The announcers didn't
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: say one where one of them said, well, they must
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: want to try and use the time and then they
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: want the ball block for a two point conversion. Yes,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: one word about it. They just sat there. They couldn't
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: figure out what they were doing. Well, listen, if you
• 42:10
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• 42:14
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• 42:17
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• 42:22
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• 42:25
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• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Minshew and that video you guys just showed that looks
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: like it's his team. No, I think that's pretty clear
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: by now. Yeah, you saw a passing shot of Nick
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Foles like kind of in the background, but the guy
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: they were raillying around with Minshew, Well, people you also
• 42:45
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• 42:47
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• 42:50
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• 42:53
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• 43:00
  Speaker 1: And then when you're losing, everyone hates each other, just
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: the way the world works. But he looked like he
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: took control that for a young kid. He looked like
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: that was his uddle. So when we come back, because
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I know we gotta go to break here. When we
• 43:10
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• 43:13
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• 43:16
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  Speaker 1: next year is like what do you do at the
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  Speaker 1: be five and five in the ten starts, now he has,
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  Speaker 1: be the next number. It's you look at this week.
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  Speaker 1: In the last two weeks after the performance, everyone has
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: gone crazy, said Mitschew. Mane he is back the magic
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: back because he brought this team to a win. But
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I think you have to look at the entire picture
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: when you're making a decision, you're really evaluating Gardner Minshew.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: It was ugly to start the game. I mean, they
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: had no rhythm. He was inaccurate throwing the ball. He was,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: would you say, pete jumpy, moving, moving in the pocket
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: more than he needed to. He did have a drop,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: but they had nothing going at all. I think there's
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  Speaker 1: you know, and there's questions, you know, part of the
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: some of the questions I think people have is his
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a big deal right now because
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  Speaker 1: he's young. Is his ability to see things and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: He'll get that. He's a smart guy. Arm strength is
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: a question. Candy drive the ball down the field. That's
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: something they have not done very well. He did have
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: the deep path on the out and up the coal
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: and the corner fell down. But his arm did not
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: look great early. He did not look accurate. It didn't
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: look like a lot of zip of the ball. The
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: ball was sailing on him. It was ugly. The bad
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: was he was leading an offense. It still could not
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: get the end zone. He has not gotten the end
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: zone very much in the last three games. He started
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Houston in London last week against whoever we play I
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: can't remember now, Chargers the Chargers, and this week to
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: start the first half, two first downs, barely seventy yards
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: of offense under ten minutes of the time of possession.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: And you honestly wondered, as we're saying, we looked at
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: each other in the boot like will we ever see
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: the end zone again? And and that's how bad it felt.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: But this is the good. This is what I love
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: about this kid, and this is why there's a chance
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: that he could be the guy. He's got to clean
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: up stuff. I think he needs to work on, you know,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: keep on getting his arm stronger and stronger, to improve
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: on seeing things. But the stuff he has that you
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: can't teach. He has a presence about him. He's a
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: natural leader. He has moxie, he has grit, and the
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: kid never flinches. I mean, everything was going against him,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: nothing was going their way, and he kept on fire.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: He started the game three. That's not good, that awful,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: fortunate the ball didn't get bad and picked high throws
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: on slants, poor throws. The next eight team passes JP
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: after the first ten. You know what, he was fourteen
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: for eight team too. Touched hounds and lead this team
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: and made some big time throws at the end of
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: the game. Now they weren't still he drove one down
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the field on a comeback the uh. The two touchdowns
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: were not deep throws, they were beautiful on time, precision
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: slant patterns. But the most impressive thing to me about
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: this kid is his toughness, both physically and mentally to
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: hang in there and to keep on playing until the
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: game's over. A lot of guys don't have that. But
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: you cannot look at this performance and say Mania is
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: back and he's definitely the guy. That's the way, Pete.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: That's why I said the good, the bad, the ugly.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. There's there's there's good. Stuff got
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: to be better than that. It was great for Spurts,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: it was very good. It was great when it had
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: to be Um and he's decisive and he makes good
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: decisions when it has to be. But at other times
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: it was awful, and that's why you can't have that.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: That's why, Pete, that's why I said, when I thought
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: about it was the good, the bad, ugly. There was good,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: there was bad, and there was some flat ugly stuff.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: And you're right, you need more you got. These last
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: two games are very important for them. I think the
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: off season is important. I think unless one of these
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks falls to you wherever you pick, you're probably going
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: into training camp with Minshew and folds your guys to
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: compete for the starting job. And it's too early to
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: make any proclamation that he's the guy. And for everyone
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: who's so excited what happened at the end, yes I'm
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: excited too, but you can't let that cloud the entire picture.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: And that's what Pete saying. It's it's a big picture thing.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: And let's not forget that's a bad Oakland team and
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: a bad Oakland defense alright, and Atlanta is a bad
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: defense for most of this year too, So we'll see.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I just think there's gotta be the next two games
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: to me, are important for him. He's got to show
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: better early in games and and get going and then
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: then you know what I mean, it's not just about
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: the end of the That magic is great and all,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: but it's gotta be more. We gotta get to the
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: point where you're not happy being forced to need the
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: magic at the end of games. You hear that music, Pete,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: that means shut up you. You just babbled for twenty
• 54:12
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• 54:17
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• 54:20
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  Speaker 1: Meantsh you magic at the end to get it done.
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  Speaker 1: The Jags defense played well. Can they pull a couple
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  Speaker 1: more rabbits out of their hat the rest of the
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  Speaker 1: way we'll find out today though. This afternoon, the NFL
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  Speaker 1: Players Association throwing an announcement out there that they had
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  Speaker 1: one a grievance over the Jaguars finding players for missing
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  Speaker 1: offseason rehab when the players thought they It was announced
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  Speaker 1: later correct for seven hundred thousand dollars in fines have
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  Speaker 1: been rescinded. Now for Dante Fowler and a couple of
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  Speaker 1: key quotes in there, I'm discussing that of the grievances
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  Speaker 1: filed in the league in the last two years have
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  Speaker 1: been against the Jaguars and basically warning membership of the
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  Speaker 1: Players Association um to consider this when you have a
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  Speaker 1: chance to select your next club. Do we want to
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  Speaker 1: dive into this again? Are we just touch on it briefly?
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  Speaker 1: Got big news to them when you get when you
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  Speaker 1: get fined, it comes out of your paycheck right away
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  Speaker 1: and then you have to file the grievance to get
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  Speaker 1: it back. Yes, So basically that's a hell of a
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  Speaker 1: Christmas present. Dante Fowler just got a lot of money. Man.
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  Speaker 1: So I was only fined twice and uh so, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but before so I got fined, I probably should't. I
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  Speaker 1: could have filed agreevance against Tom for this one. I
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  Speaker 1: got fined. It wasn't even a rule. He made it
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  Speaker 1: up after because he and like something I got fine
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  Speaker 1: for uh three times. I got fined for leaving the
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  Speaker 1: pregame meal early, not spending enough time with my teammates,
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  Speaker 1: remember the story, which it wasn't even really that's really stupid.
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  Speaker 1: What was the fine? How much was it? I think
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  Speaker 1: it was like back then I was a rookie and
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  Speaker 1: it was like to fifty one. It was a small fine. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I remember it was me, Novak and Chung and we
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  Speaker 1: went down to his office to like complain about it,
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  Speaker 1: and he just said he was unwavering that we were
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  Speaker 1: getting fine. I was late for one team meeting. I
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  Speaker 1: was actually here sitting in the locker room. And it
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  Speaker 1: different in the building. And so I showed up it
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  Speaker 1: was I was like four minutes early, me and Clyde Simmons,
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  Speaker 1: and the door was locked and the team media started, so, um,
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  Speaker 1: all right, so you deserve that one. Yeah, you were like,
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  Speaker 1: how do you figure I was still early? It was
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  Speaker 1: it was an eight o'clock meeting. I was there at
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  Speaker 1: eight at seven fifty six. Anyways, fine. Uh. And then um,
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  Speaker 1: I got fined by the NFL for a fight against
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens, and I actually appealed that one. I peeled
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  Speaker 1: the fine I got from the league and I lost.
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  Speaker 1: So they never find you for punching me in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room, then you gotta pay me? No, they actually
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  Speaker 1: I got a bonus for punching you, Tom said, great job,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: or maybe a hundred thousand dollar bonus for punching Pete.
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  Speaker 1: So Pete what I mean? I kind of ranted at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the show about my thoughts, uh, and
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  Speaker 1: I think you were here for part of it when
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  Speaker 1: we lost it for a little bit. What's your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on this whole? This is not a good look. This
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: is not a good look for the team. And again
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I told you what I said. I think just goes
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  Speaker 1: straight to the top, not not Shod Khan or Tony Khan,
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  Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin. This is all about him, is it just?
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  Speaker 1: Is it just Tom? Is it Tom and Dave or
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  Speaker 1: just Tom? It's Tom? It's Tom. Tom has hated anything
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  Speaker 1: that goes against conventional coach type of mentality since I've
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  Speaker 1: known him. Any little thing that strays away from what
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  Speaker 1: he thinks should be the right way, We'll drive him nuts.
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey not showing up for voluntary workouts drove him crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I know it did. It used to drive him crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember when Logoman was part of the problem
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  Speaker 1: when he didn't show up for voluntary mini voluntary training camp.
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  Speaker 1: could you imagine if that happened to day what the
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  Speaker 1: what the Union do? So the Panthers and the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: were allowed to come to camp like ten days early
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  Speaker 1: it was supposed to be like July. That was the
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  Speaker 1: that was like the official reporting date. So Tom, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: days early whatever it was. And and it's like Logs, like,
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  Speaker 1: starting camp four days earlier. And so I was rookie.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know any better. I'm like, okay. So, like
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  Speaker 1: everyone showed up except for three guys Logan Shmangi and
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  Speaker 1: not showing up when we don't have to be there volunteering.
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  Speaker 1: It was already a six week camp as it was,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, and that was the end of it. Though
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  Speaker 1: I tried to find him, if I'm not mistaken, he
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  Speaker 1: tried to find him. Yeah, but he didn't. But that
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  Speaker 1: was the end of it. If you if if a
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  Speaker 1: team tried to do that right now, the Morris Smith
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  Speaker 1: would be like like in the city saying no, do
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  Speaker 1: not show up, but nothing like we all showed up.
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  Speaker 1: We practiced an extra four days, two days. And if
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  Speaker 1: I remember correctly, Berline actually played in that Tahoe golf
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  Speaker 1: tournament and had to race to get there for the
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  Speaker 1: first day of the voluntary slash mandatory training game. It
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: was for that. It was crazy. I didn't know any
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  Speaker 1: better as a rookie. I'm like, okay, I guess that's
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  Speaker 1: what you do. And then like about three weeks later,
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  Speaker 1: you thought everybody got to fly on Wayne Weaver's private
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: jet when they got hurt. No, I knew that was
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: just me so but Pete, I said this, and you
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  Speaker 1: were off the air, And I'll just say it again briefly,
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  Speaker 1: this is like, it's ridiculous to me. It's not that
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  Speaker 1: hard like and this is like coaches in the front
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  Speaker 1: office and coaches always want the players to follow all
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: the rules, which they should like beyond time, show up
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: the treatment, do the things you're supposed to do. In
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: my message to a player, it's like, just follow the rules.
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  Speaker 1: It makes life easier for everybody. They're the boss, they're
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: the organization. These are the rules. As long as they
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: don't violate the c b A, you should do them right.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: But guess what, it's same thing for the coaches in
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: the front office. This is the c b A that
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: was negotiated by your owner. This is the rule. When
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: I can reference back when Tom was the coach and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: he didn't follow the rules on injuries, like and this
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: is what drives me crazy. And I gave the example Pete.
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  Speaker 1: Tom had a rule that you weren't allowed to wear
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  Speaker 1: white socks on the road. I hated the rule. He
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: told me crazy. I thought it was the dumbest rule ever.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I told him. I thought it was dumb. It's not
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. I like white sox, I want to
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: wear white socks. What does it matter. No, it's a rule.
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  Speaker 1: So guess what. I followed the rule because it was
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: the rule. I hated it, So why should it Why
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: should a rule that he doesn't like not be followed?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: And that's by the way, rules are still one of
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: his best stories ever. Has been logging and told his
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: story about the Bolo Tide. Yeah, we had it in
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: studio last year. Actually it's great, and I'm not and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to pile on coach Conflin. Oh No, Look,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: I love Tom, but he had too many nippicky things
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: and he didn't follow the rules he was supposed to follow.
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  Speaker 1: And that's my problem. And in this case, like the
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  Speaker 1: rules are there for a reason, they're negotiated by both sides.
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  Speaker 1: Just follow them. It's not that hard. It's really not.
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  Speaker 1: Remember the injury report every week, and this was before
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: the injury report changed. It was you had to have
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: guys on the injury port and send it in the
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  Speaker 1: right way. Well, Tom always fudged the injury port and
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: I kept telling him, by the way, by the way,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: he wasn't the only only team, no, but I told him,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: I said, Tom, you can't do that. Put the injuries
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: on the injury port the way they are so one.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: I kept telling him, I going you do it again.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: I'm telling I'm calling the lead. So he didn't have
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Jimmy on the injury report. And when you needn't practice
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: that day, and I waited out in the parking lot
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: and a couple of guys told me Jimmy wasn't a thing.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: So I called the league and he went crazy. But
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: he didn't follow rules. He wanted his own rules, but
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: didn't follow the rules. And that's where this is a problem.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: It's the same type of situation. So there you go.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: So it's a bad look. But more than anything, though
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: disturbing about this is not the money, not how he
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: did it. It's the last line of that statement from
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: the NFL p A. They're basically warning free agents be
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: careful about signing with Jack in theville. That is an
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: awful look. And I don't believe that somebody's gonna get
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: a contract is gonna not sign there for that reason.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: But it's still not a good y. But be here's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: what this is. Where it becomes a competitive disadvantage is
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: if you're the Jaguars and you're offering player A, you know,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: a million dollars a year, and the the Titans are
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: offering the same player a million dollars a year, and
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: they look at both situations, the page the saying everything
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: is the same. They might reference this and saying, well,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go to Jacksonville the PAS telling
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  Speaker 1: me that they don't follow the rules and I have
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: to do things I'm not supposed to according to the
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: c B A. I'm gonna go to Tennessee. Yeah, but
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: you know what supersedes that most they income tax. Okay, okay,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: say the Miami Dolphins. In the Dolphins, now, you're right
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: to go to Miami. It's a it's a competitive disadvantage.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: The other thing is and and you know this. You've
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  Speaker 1: been around teams like players know in that locker room,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: and especially when you're losing, like players are mad, they're angry.
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  Speaker 1: It makes it harder for the head coach because you're
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: managing like a bunch of stuff that shouldn't have to
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  Speaker 1: be managed. And it might it might make you pay
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  Speaker 1: more to get a guy about what you had a
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  Speaker 1: disadvantage in your cap. It's just not a good look.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: It's not And you know every team and it's just
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: like in recruiting, Oh, they're gonna gonna use it because
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: in recruiting, like they don't open up the practices to
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: the NFL scouts use that against them. You know, it's
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing. HM the Jaguars on the field
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: had to rally back. They got it done, Gardner. Men,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: you with the two touchdown passes in the fourth quarter
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: to Chris Conley and the defense tightened up. How about
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: the day for uniqu and Guay yesterday, by the way,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: five tackles, two sacks, four tackles for loss, and a
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: pass defense, and that's a pretty good day at the office. Well,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: and he was dominant in the past rush just um
• 1:10:02
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• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: was pressuring force and early throws. He was harassing the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Very good pass rush. And he did what I I've
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: been hoping he would do for a while. He used
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  Speaker 1: his speed and athletic ability in the run game where
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: he didn't just try to to gap him and go
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  Speaker 1: toe to toe with these bigger men. He used his
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: athletic ability get on their edge, get around them, and
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  Speaker 1: recover in the backfield and make plays. And that's how
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: he has to play. He is not big enough just
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: to go toe to toe every play with big offensive
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  Speaker 1: tackles when they're running the ball right at him. He
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: has to use his athletic abilities. One of the most
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: athletic defensive ends in the entire NFL use that, and
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: he did yesterday. He was phenomenal yesterday. I mean that
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: was like he should have looked up to the press
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: box that said, now you're gonna pay me, guys, because
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: that was that type of performance. As a pass rusher.
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  Speaker 1: He was phenomenal. Back when he's working against isn't very good. No,
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  Speaker 1: But my whole point was the passworst was there, but
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: he used his athletic abilion the run game as well,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't think he's done that enough. Something about
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: that yesterday bothers me. Why is Josh Allen only playing
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: twenty nine snaps? Well, you got beat up early. I
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: saw that, but he came back. I would play more too.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't get that. That's one of
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: the mysteries to me, is why he doesn't play more.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: I don't have an answer for you. We're gonna get
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: some answers from you though, in the next segment. Social
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  Speaker 1: media questions. All right, let's do it. It's right around
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• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: some PFF grade for to throw out there too. It
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: so nice. We can get to those a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Priscoe after a Jaguars win in Oakland twenty sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: the final. I guess gonna be good. He already is good.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna be really good. I think, yeah, he's a
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  Speaker 1: good player, and he goes to peace question. I agree
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  Speaker 1: with Pete. I think he's played more more snaps now
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  Speaker 1: yesterday because the injury. I think that had something to
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  Speaker 1: do with it. It's a stinger, Yeah, but I still
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  Speaker 1: think he needs more snaps. Yeah, but he only played seven.
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  Speaker 1: I mean a stinger would take you out for ten
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  Speaker 1: of them. He's got to play more with that, Peter,
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  Speaker 1: I just said that, okay, But you said because of
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  Speaker 1: a stinger yesterday. I said, okay, take him up for ten.
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  Speaker 1: That he still should be way above seven. We agree.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go on lest social. Wow, you think we lost
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  Speaker 1: again or something? Oh no, I say we I want
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  Speaker 1: to get to social I'm excited. Are you sure that'll
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: be positive because we won social media? Question number one?
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: Then at Jags five, every game Mint she plays. Which
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: way do you lean he's a franchise quarterback or a
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: high end backup? TBD? To be determined? Is that what
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: that stands for? That's where I sit with it. At
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: least yes, to be determined, But I'd lean more towards
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: the backup than a franchise quarterback. Why. I just don't
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: think he does the things that you You mentioned a
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: bunch of him, Tony. He's jumping in the pocket too much,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: his arm isn't great, his anticipation isn't great. He is
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: improvisational skills are fantastic. So again I would disagree with that.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: I think his I think he anticipates at times pretty well. Um,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: I Pete, your favorite quarterback in the draft two years
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: ago was Josh Allen. All the things you just said,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I would say, Gardner mits you is better as a
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: rookie than Josh Allen was his rookie probably was. His
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: arm isn't nearly. I didn't say that. I said he
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: is performing better in the pocket, making better reads, more decisive, um,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: better in the pocket. A lot of things that a
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: lot of people were worried about Josh Allen, and you
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: loved him, and he's having a very good second half
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: of this year. We need that Buffalo team to the
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: playoffs with a very good defense, very well coached. But
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: he is a huge part of it. My point is
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: this is why to me, it's to be determined. He
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: is better than Josh Allen as a rookie. He is
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: better than Sam Donald if you look at the numbers
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: and the production and everything else as a rookie, well,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: he's better than Almar Jackson as a rookie. Lamar Jackson's
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: uh as a rookie took a team to the playoffs
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: that was out of the playoffs. I would disagree with
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: you there. It wasn't good. Lamar Jackson's numbers were terrible
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: last year. Not running the ball, I mean, the way
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: he played. He led them to the playoffs, but he
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: was an undert com under. I would take Lamar Jackson
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: in his own category as my point, I'm not That's
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Let's move on. Next question at Terence L.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Hayes has a couple in a row here. This is
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: the first one. How can we get Josh Allen and
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: unique and got Way in the lineup more often? Just
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: put him out in the field. Why not have Josh
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: play strong side linebacker in base and then moves the
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: defensive end on pass rushdowns players over scheme right, I
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: would Actually, I think jan could play the big end sometimes.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: I think he could spell class as well. I've been
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: impressed of how he plays the run really so so
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: basically that was the knock on him. I know this.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: That was a knock they used against him when they
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: negotiated against him. So you think he's improved as a
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: run player to the point where he's actually pretty good
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: at are you talking? I'm talking about Alan, not a Gockway.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Oh and Gonway. Were they asked about putting on Gonway? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Strong side? Yeah? No, No, that's why I put That's
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: why I said no, put Josh as a backup. I
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: think he vacually. I think he I don't want him
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: there getting pounded all day. But I think I mean,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: he's a big he's twitter and seventy five pounds. The
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: dudes big and strong. You watch him work against tight ends.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: You know he made a play yesterday on the inside
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: zone far off the tight end, work into the C gap,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: down the line of scrimmage and made a tackle for
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: a yard game. I mean he is a physical guy.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: So I would get him on the field to a
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: lot more. I just put him in end. I wouldn't
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: put him a strong sideline backer. I think you can
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: put you on a strong side linebacker before Alan. He's
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: so much, he's so athletic and and can move in space.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Why can maybe the two ends I just said, Pete,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: but okay, or why can't you go to a different
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: defense where they both stand up? Go to a three four?
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna You're not gonna go to a three
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: four in the middle of the season. No, not this year.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about like moving forward. Well, I mean, and
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: that all depends on the you know, who the coaches are,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: and who the front office is and kind of what
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: they do personnel wise, and the big people inside. You
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: have to change your big people inside. So I mean,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a that's a much longer term
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: question that you're not gonna answer four three three four
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: anymore anyways, because you're Nickel seventy at a time. So,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: but somehow, some way, you got to figure out a
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: way to get Josh Allen on the field. Fifty five
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: of the seventies something snaps. He has to be on
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: the field, and he hasn't been. That what happened in
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: the days when defense event will play every snap. I remember,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: I remember I played Bruce Smith the first couple of
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: years I played him. He played every snap. Michael McCrary
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: every snap, Derrick Thomas every snap. And and you know,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: now these coaches are so enamored with having guys fresh
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: at the end of the game that they take their
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: their guys out in key situations because it's rotation time.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: And then you have a team drive it down the
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: field and go up by four team, which I never
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: quite got. Or you got a chance, you just scored,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: you got a chance to get him three and out,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: get the ball back and go up four team, and
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you got your backups in
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: there and they drive to mid you know, the thirty
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: five or four yard line, and then you go, okay,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: get them back in there. Now they're rested, and by
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: that time they go in and scored points a field
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: goal or touchdown. I never get it. I don't get
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: like Alfred Williams when he was three years a row
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: ten sack plus guy every down, simmon, right, So I
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: played him every down. I mean it was just it
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: was different. I mean, you got the top. You got
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: to ask ball every down. Like baseball now with the
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: pitchers who starting pitchers don't pitch complete games anymore. They
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: get out, they get yanked because analytics say they need to. Yeah.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just interesting. No, I'm
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: with you, Tony. I think sometimes they get too caught
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: up in or you've played this many snaps. No, Clay's
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: Campbell's played too many snaps this year. Well, he's an
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: older player. I'm talking about young guys. It goes both ways,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: Yes you can. Let's get to another one from Terence L. Hayes.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: He had a couple of good ones in a row
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: here this one. Should we get a look at Will
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Richardson at left tackle in the final two games. We
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: know what Cam Robinson is and what his ceiling is.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: We must figure out that premium position A s A
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: p Uh. What do you think of Cam's game yesterday?
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Poor in the first poor in the first half, better
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: in the second half. Um, he's not good, right. I
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: don't think Will Richardson should be playing guard. J Cann's
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: playing better than him a guard. I'm not sure why
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: they're still doing the rotation. He struggles. He only played
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: seven STAPs and he struggled those seven stamps. Um a
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: couple of pass rushes, one in particular. Uh. I thought
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: Will did pretty good the first two weeks at left tackle.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: And you know he gave up his sact to Whitney
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: Merciless not the first person to do that on the road.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: That's a tough matchup. Uh. I'm not sure I'd do
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: it the last two games though, but if I'd go
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: into camp and it's an open competition for left tackle,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: and I would even I would even be open to
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: drafting a left tackle because it's a deep it's a
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: deep draft. They will take a left tack. I think
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: they'll take a left tackle. It all depends he's picking.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: They should be Robinson the guard, I would agree. Next
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: question from at carpave if future um, if you buy
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: into the idea of an offseason quarterback competition between Foals
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: and Minshew, what else can you learn about so that
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: hasn't already been demonstrated this season? Well, you know, players
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: do improve year over year. Some improved, some don't, Some
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: get worse. So that's why you have a competition going
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: into the season. That's pretty bit much answers the question. Well, again,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: you don't know what system they're going to be play
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: playing in next You don't know a lot of things.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: But guys get better, I mean, especially rookies. The biggest
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: jump is from year one to year two. I mean
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: we're talking about Lamar Jackson. Before he couldn't operate out
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: of the pocket at all. Last year he's an effective
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: out of the pocket. Now I'm saying he's the best,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: but he's effective. Does the next two games not impact.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: You're just you're thinking on Minshew in any way, shape
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: or form. Then I think everything has an impact. Pet
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: I think everything you see, everything he does, impacts you
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: know how you view going in I mean human nature.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: You see things you like, this like and everything else
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: are gonna impact where they start in your mind going
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: into training camp. I wonder how what Mike McCarthy thinks
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: about Minshew and falls. I don't know. Mikeccarthy's a very
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: good coach, very good coach. He's gonna be a head
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: coach somewhere next year. And uh, I think I thought
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: he did a great job in Green Bay. Got a
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: little bit sideways at the end. There's a lot more
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: to that story. Um. I'm sure they talked about in
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Green Bay and Pete knows it. But I think Mike
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: McCarthy's the heck of a coach. I think he'd be
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: a good choice in Jackson if they do make a change,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: which they well. Next question at Joe Underscore Morgan. I
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: don't think this is Joe Morgan from the Cincinnati Reds,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: but Tony as we talked about earlier, what's your take
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: on the n f l p A findings against the Jaguars,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: and what does this mean for coughlin status? With the
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: team already answered the first UM, how about the second part?
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: A thousand times in the show already feels like what
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: does it? What does it mean for Coughlin's status? I
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: don't know. It's a it's a really good question, it's
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: a fair question, and I'm not sure. UM. I think
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: this whole thing is up in the air right now.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: And we talked about at the top where there's reports
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: out there from Chris Mortenson. They named Tom and Doug
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: is possibly not being here, Tom walking away, Doug being fired,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: nothing said about Dave. I think my guess is that
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: you will start with kind of Tom that shot evaluates,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: that's the individual reports directly to the owner. UM will
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: evaluate what, you know, where he sits and what he's
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: done and how this thing's operated under him. I think
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: Tom's also I think Chris Morton is probably right in
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: the sense that he's gonna evaluate I mean, seventy three
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: years old, you know, how much longer does he want
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: to do this? So I think there's gonna be some
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: personal reflection by Tom as well, and how that goes
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: is going to determine a lot of the rest because
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think anything happens with Dave or Doug until
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: it is sorted out what happens with Tom. And I
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: don't know what will happen um, but I think that's
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: just the way the organization is set up right now.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: I shot has set it up. We're all of football
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: reports to Tom and he's the final say and everything
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: with football, and so I think that will be sorted
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: out before anything else. I agree. I think, like I said,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: I've been saying it all along. I think Tom walks away.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: I think there's other changes that coach Doug Marone's gone.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen to Dave, but he
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: could be gone to I think he could have a
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: clean sweep there. Now I mentioned Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: comes in, He's not gonna want to have football say,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: but he's gonna have impact on that football say. So
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: in that scenario, he might recommend a guy he's worked
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: with over the years to be that football guy so
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: they can work hand in hand. So I think it's
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see how that plays out, because
• 1:27:46
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was a long year, long year, and
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  Speaker 1: Then I left, and then I watched the rest of today. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: lowest rated offensive lineman, Sam Robinson easily highest rated offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: I would say Norwell or yeah Noel be my guy. Okay,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: he gave Linda got bad grades. Juwan Taylor got so
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: so great? Uh and Can got an average grade. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think Linda was great. I thought Jowan was fine.
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• 1:35:34
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• 1:35:37
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• 1:35:41
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• 1:35:42
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  Speaker 1: a negative grade and run defense. He had a couple
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  Speaker 1: if I don't understand it and they're looking at the
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: same thing, I can see why they would say, like,
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  Speaker 1: what the heck is he doing there? Lowest rated defensive
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: player Tavin Bryant, No, he had low grade, but he's
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: not the lowest. Yeah, he had a tough day. Donald
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: Payne at thirteen tackles down the field. Yeah he I mean,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: how about the here's a great stat for you, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: In eleven games, Miles Jack had sixty six tackles. I
• 1:36:34
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• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: three tackles. Yeah, but he's not playing well. But just
• 1:36:43
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• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: who else had a bad game and he got a
• 1:36:47
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• 1:36:48
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• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: Harrison was bad. Ronnie Harrison did not have a good game.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think he wasn't flying around either. The tight
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: end was running past him a lot, but he wasn't
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: flying around getting up there and making tackles. I thought
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Jared Wilson had a good game. I thought Jarald Wilson
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: played well, good great missed one tackle on what tyrone
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: was Yeah, that was a terror. Like at the beginning,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, come on, Jared, you
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: can't do that. It was awful. But the rest of
• 1:37:11
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• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: played once again, Hayden played well and played well. A
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: J was just okay. Um they gave him, they gave
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: a j a good grade. Yeah, I thought he was
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: just okay. What do you think of Colletro. You know
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: he's in the right spot. I mean he has some
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: limitation athletically, but he is in the right spot at
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: the right I mean he is a smart football player.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: I'll give him that. You know who they said had
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: a good game, Leon Jacobs. I didn't get a lot
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: of snaps, but yeah, you had some plays, made some
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: real sure tackles, and I agree with that. Playing the
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: strong Jacobs played Ted more snaps than Josh Allen did. Yeah,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: let's touch on the a f C South. What about
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: the where they I want to just we did offensive line?
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: What about the skill guys for the offense. The highest
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: rated was helling Cole okay uh. Leonard Fournett was the
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: next highest rated. They gave Minshew a negative grade. They
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: gave Conley a negative grade, and they gave Westbrook a
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: pretty big negative grade. Calmly in a negative grade with
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Huh, yes, Well he got run blocking. They
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: gave him a negative that's the only reason. Does he
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: not block outside? Tony? No, he was blocking. He had
• 1:38:30
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• 1:38:33
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• 1:38:38
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• 1:38:40
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• 1:38:50
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  Speaker 1: Texans over the Titans one. Carlos hid another hundred yard
• 1:39:14
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• 1:39:16
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• 1:39:28
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• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: they play again against each other. If if the Titans
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: went out in Houston one, No, if Houston loses, um
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: so pete. This is the question. So if Houston loses two, uh,
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• 1:39:54
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  Speaker 1: go to common opponents or something. No, the division record
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• 1:40:13
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• 1:40:27
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• 1:40:29
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  Speaker 1: I'm tiebreakers and tiebreakers and all that. Yeah, Bill's clinch.
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• 1:41:09
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• 1:41:24
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• 1:41:34
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• 1:41:40
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• 1:41:42
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• 1:41:46
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  Speaker 1: so we're here to see who's going to go for
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  Speaker 1: the win. First off, Molly took it to the next
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  Speaker 1: level with the chairs and the coolers. Here comes them
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  Speaker 1: bringing it with those killer boots in that portable grill.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my, I think she's going for him. My, um,
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  Speaker 1: I think the hot dogs are on fire. Hold on, honey, ladies,
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  Speaker 1: Probably saw more middle fingers today than I have him
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  Speaker 1: my whole life. But now that they have a good
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  Speaker 1: Oakland Fans and Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli has turned his cap backwards and Pete Briscoe
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  Speaker 1: is with us rally cap from what are we like
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  Speaker 1: the show? I'm trying to finish strong? What was wrong
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  Speaker 1: with the first hour and five minutes? I thought I
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  Speaker 1: had to carry Pete so it was tough and tired.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Tony was it? Is it worse than
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  Speaker 1: it was when you were there? What the Colosseum when
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  Speaker 1: you play there? There's there's more weed now, but no worse.
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  Speaker 1: It might be nicer because I think people are probably
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  Speaker 1: nicer when they smoke weed. Thn get really drunk, and
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  Speaker 1: they used to be really drunk. I mean, it's a
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  Speaker 1: non scientific opinion. So well, isn't weed legal in California?
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  Speaker 1: It is now, but it wasn't back when I was playing. No,
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  Speaker 1: I know what I'm saying. That's why I said I
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  Speaker 1: think they're nicer now because back then there's all really drunk. Now,
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  Speaker 1: like half of them are really intoxicated from the weed.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Judging by the middle fingers, you guys
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  Speaker 1: all say they've been shooting, and I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: were much nicer. Well, we got the middle fingures back
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  Speaker 1: then too. I was number one back there. That was popular.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go around the other games of the National Football
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  Speaker 1: League get this week let's start back on Thursday. The
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  Speaker 1: Ravens do it. Yeah, I was there. Lamar Jackson is fabulous.
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  Speaker 1: Jets aren't very good. But this is when you know
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  Speaker 1: a player is really special. Like the Jets would have
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  Speaker 1: the perfect defense called being the perfect position defensive and
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  Speaker 1: sitting on his own read there one on one to
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  Speaker 1: make a tackle. Add no chance, no chance to tackle him.
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  Speaker 1: He's just gonna go right around and he's make a
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  Speaker 1: little move. You're gonna be sitting there holding your jock
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  Speaker 1: and he's gonna be running down the sideline. He is
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  Speaker 1: a special player. Does it change when he can't run
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  Speaker 1: the way he runs. I'll let you know when that happens.
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  Speaker 1: But right now he can No I know, but you
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  Speaker 1: know I saw a stat where his receivers are like
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  Speaker 1: open more than any receivers in the league. And it's
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  Speaker 1: not because they're great receivers. Is because of his ability
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  Speaker 1: to run the football well. He's operating better and better
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  Speaker 1: from the pocket. So if he keeps on upproven, obviously
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  Speaker 1: his athletic ability will slow down as he gets older.
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  Speaker 1: But if his pocket presence, in his pocket effectiveness increases
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  Speaker 1: at the rate it did from your into year two
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  Speaker 1: which probably won't go up that much, but if he
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  Speaker 1: keeps them going down the right direction. The kid loves football.
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  Speaker 1: The kid works very hard. Um, I think he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be I think he's a good He's a very good player.
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  Speaker 1: He's m v P winning. If you had to pick
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  Speaker 1: one Mahomes or Jackson for the long haul, which one
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  Speaker 1: you take it? I would still take Mahomes. It's just
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  Speaker 1: I like, you know, more traditional way of playing quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: But I couldn't argue with anyone if they took Lamaren Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: He's the better player. He's the he's the better player
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  Speaker 1: this year. Yeah. Russell Wilson two touchdown passes, twenty six
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  Speaker 1: passing in that game. Carson had a couple of touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: on the ground. The Seahawks beat the Panthers four. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the Panthers made a late run, but Seattle control that
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  Speaker 1: game most of the time. Pete, from what I saw,
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  Speaker 1: we saw the first time the number one seed. Right
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  Speaker 1: now they are the number one seed. But it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: come down they play each other here, is it this
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  Speaker 1: week or is it the last week? This week, next week?
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  Speaker 1: They play each other. It's gonna come down to that game.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever wins that games went in the West. The forty
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  Speaker 1: Niners play the Rams this week. The Cardinals play the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 1: In the next week. The two teams play. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to that game. Patriots defense had
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  Speaker 1: a big day over the Bengals. What do you make
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  Speaker 1: of all this video controversy? Pete Again, I go back to,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it looks like they did it, But
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  Speaker 1: why would you do it? If you could just sit
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  Speaker 1: somebody in the front row with the camera on the
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  Speaker 1: phone and videotape signals if you wanted to, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Just look. I think they've done stuff in the past,
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  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I just think this one common
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  Speaker 1: sense would tell you that why would you do it?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that stupid. I don't think Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 1: w the football side of this, of the New England
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  Speaker 1: Patriots had anything to do with this production team any
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  Speaker 1: benefit from it. I didn't even know about it. I
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  Speaker 1: think it was a project they were trying to do,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for other purposes, uh uh, throughout the organization,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's nonsense and has nothing to do
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  Speaker 1: with what's happening on the field. Buccaneers seven and seven.
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  Speaker 1: Now the win over the Lions thirty seventeen, they have
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  Speaker 1: a big choice. Jameis Winston has thirty touchdowns this year,
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  Speaker 1: but he has twenty three interceptions through four touchdowns, one pick,
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  Speaker 1: four hundred fifty yards like the first player in a
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  Speaker 1: long time to have back to back games with four
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  Speaker 1: hundred fifty plus uh in passing one. It's good, it's
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  Speaker 1: really good. But Boye picks beats way too many plus
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  Speaker 1: eleven fumbles in the pocket. But Tony, if they're offensive
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  Speaker 1: line is better and they're better on defense, then he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have to throw as much and pressed as much.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know how that is. That defense for
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  Speaker 1: much of the last couple of years has been awful.
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  Speaker 1: So you're pressing and playing from behind, you're gonna turn
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  Speaker 1: the ball over. So are you gonna pay him a
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars over five years? No, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna tag him. I agree. Packers over the Bears, Green
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  Speaker 1: Bay now eleven and three. I mean, the Bears struggle
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  Speaker 1: on offense, they're a good defense, They're a good football team.
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  Speaker 1: The quarterbacks not consistent. If I didn't see any any
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  Speaker 1: of the game, just saw the statistics. And kind of
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  Speaker 1: final score. But that's my takeaway from not watching it.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't pretty. That's another game where the Packers had
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  Speaker 1: it in hand for much of the game and let
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  Speaker 1: the Bears get back into a late big game. This
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  Speaker 1: week though, Packers and Vikings kings that Monday night. Yes
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  Speaker 1: speaking of the Vikings, they beat the Chargers thirty nine
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  Speaker 1: to ten yesterday. I ain't the Chargers have a very
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  Speaker 1: interesting offseason coming up what they do with Philip Rivers
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  Speaker 1: because he is not playing good football this year peat.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna retire. That's just my gun. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't heard that from anybody. I just get it. It
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  Speaker 1: just has that look about I don't think he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: play next year in the snow and Kansas City the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs over the Broncos Tree three. You know, Drew, it
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  Speaker 1: was Drew Luck's homecoming and he didn't play very well
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  Speaker 1: from the brief parts of the game I saw on
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  Speaker 1: the overall, you know, kind of outcome. But I think
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  Speaker 1: Drew Luck has a chance to be a pretty good player.
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  Speaker 1: And what I say Drew Luck, Drew Luck, I meant
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  Speaker 1: long sorry lost cousin of yeah, uh yeah. Anyways, I
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  Speaker 1: think you know, I think he has a chance too.
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  Speaker 1: He was terrible yesterday, terrible, bad weather. You know one thing,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this Spagnola. They say it would take some
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  Speaker 1: time with Spagnola's defense, and it's they're getting better playing
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  Speaker 1: in that defense again. They got trull socks. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: is that gonna help him? Pete? He's kind of old, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but he can still rush when you know, a situational rusher.
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  Speaker 1: You know, hell, we'll see. I'm not great player. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure it's gonna help him. Giants over the Dolphins
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  Speaker 1: thirty six to twenty Eli Manning, probably his last home
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  Speaker 1: game in New York. Yeah, it was nice to see
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  Speaker 1: him go out that way too. I like he did
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  Speaker 1: some really good things. They gave him a standing ovation.
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  Speaker 1: He's probably gonna go into the Hall of Fame. But
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  Speaker 1: that he knows it's over, it's done. The other guys,
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  Speaker 1: their quarterback. Has he got another team next year? Pete?
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  Speaker 1: I don't see. I think he's another retiree, don't you.
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  Speaker 1: Eagles over the red Skins thirty in Washington, setting up
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  Speaker 1: a big game the NFC East. Will we decided this
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  Speaker 1: weekend between the Cowboys and the Eagles It's incredible. It
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  Speaker 1: is absolutely incredible that those teams who have played so
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  Speaker 1: poorly at times during the season will be the two
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  Speaker 1: teams that one of those two teams going to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys beat the ram Rams are done. They got major issues,
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  Speaker 1: they have cap issues. They you know, they've struggled all year.
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  Speaker 1: Offensive line started playing better. They put the young guys
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  Speaker 1: in there. They're not one week on defense are great,
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  Speaker 1: but I've been sold on the defense all year. What
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  Speaker 1: does McVeigh do with Wade Phillips? Does he bring him back?
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  Speaker 1: I mean they go They're gonna have a tough offseason
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  Speaker 1: because the cap issues and uh some deciding who They
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  Speaker 1: don't have any draft picks either, Jacksonville has their draft pick.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good that's a good loss for me right now. Um,
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  Speaker 1: there's what twelve teams go to the playoffs. That's twenty teams.
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  Speaker 1: The best case, they're gonna have the twentieth pick. We
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  Speaker 1: need them to lose out and get to like fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: Cardinal Jaxual didn't do itself any favors by winning yesterday either,
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals over the Browns. That was a surprising one. I
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  Speaker 1: think that sealed the fate for Freddy Kitchens, I would
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  Speaker 1: agree with you. I think he's done. And that wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even that closed by the way. Dodell Backham back in Cleveland. Pete,
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  Speaker 1: he's hurt. He can't run. Tony, he's hurt. He's gotta
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  Speaker 1: have I think he's gotta have um groin surgery. He
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  Speaker 1: can't run. I don't know who who trade for him?
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  Speaker 1: Would you want? I'm not sure. Falcons over the Niners
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  Speaker 1: on the last play of the game that was that
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  Speaker 1: was shocking. I did not see Atlanta going to San
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  Speaker 1: Francisco beating that team. No, And then I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 1: They played good defensively in that game, which you know
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  Speaker 1: would be interesting to see if that carries over. They've
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  Speaker 1: played much better on defense the last couple you know,
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  Speaker 1: four or five weeks after they got Dan Quinn away
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  Speaker 1: from the defense and let Rahee Morris and those guys
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  Speaker 1: called the defense. How they played this week and you
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  Speaker 1: look at San Francisco back to back really tough games.
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  Speaker 1: They went to Baltimore, left lost a really close game
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  Speaker 1: at the end, physical game, beat New Orleans, tough game
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  Speaker 1: on the road, back to back tough road games, come home,
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  Speaker 1: but they lost. They lost their center, starting center Richburg. Richburg,
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  Speaker 1: I mean they lost some guys and Sherman. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: so this is a team that is not healthy or
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  Speaker 1: even close to it going into the playoff. The Bills.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing though, you fall from one to five. You
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  Speaker 1: go from having a home field advantage all the way
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  Speaker 1: through this week and then you lose, and now you're
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  Speaker 1: a five set going on the road, and it can
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  Speaker 1: switch again next week. It could Bills beat the Steelers,
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  Speaker 1: Bills secure the playoff spot. Seventeen ten the final on
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  Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football. It's Monday Night Football Tonight. The six
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  Speaker 1: and seven Indianapolis Cults are on live support, trying to
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  Speaker 1: keep any hope alive for the a f C wild
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  Speaker 1: Card race. Jacobe Present leads them into the super Dome
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  Speaker 1: the face Drew Brees and the weapons of the NFC
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  Speaker 1: South champion New Orleans Saints. It's allowed one in the Dome.
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  Speaker 1: Who you got tonight? I got New Orleans. I mean
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  Speaker 1: I think I think the better team, and I think
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Colts. I can't figure out they're up
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  Speaker 1: and down. They've got a pretty good roster. I like
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  Speaker 1: the roster a lot. Present has to be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit better, but they just uh, I think they lost
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  Speaker 1: this on the Thursday night game in Houston when they
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  Speaker 1: were controlling that game going into the fourth quarter, stopped
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: running it and uh ended up losing a game they
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  Speaker 1: should have won. And the quarterback hasn't played as well
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  Speaker 1: either that he got hurt that beat with you. I
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  Speaker 1: like the Saints, great show, have a great week. We'll
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  Speaker 1: talk all right, guys, take care of talking to you
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  Speaker 1: next week. Pee Priscos, CBS Sports Senior writer Tony Vaselli,
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  Speaker 1: prior of the Jaguars left Jack. Yes, that's what I've heard.
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  Speaker 1: I'm j P. Shadra. You are, and I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna change. I hope not. Jaguars Happy Hour on
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