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  It's time for the truth be told with Booker Scott.
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  Since November 2020, there have been outbursts of outrage to steady murmur of disbelief.
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  Georgia is always on our mind from a busted pipe in State Farm Arena, Ruby Freeman, voting machines, drop boxes, ballots, and no chain of custody.
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  Many believe their outbursts and murmurs have been largely ignored.
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  Courts said you don't have standing, meritless claims at the expense of a growing throng demanding election integrity.
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  Nothing less than free and fair elections.
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  Courts and elected officials have subverted the will of the people searching for answers.
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  But a grassroots effort in Georgia has never stopped, never relented.
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  Oh, they got some laws changed along the way, but not quite enough.
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  Only to have outrage over voter ID for mail-in ballots, forcing the major league baseball all-star game to move back in 2021.
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  Remember that.
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  Meanwhile, characters like Secretary of State Brad Raffensburger and Gabriel Sterling denied any wrongdoing.
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  Governor Brian Kemp, well, he has his own issues too, but they all refused to cooperate then.
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  And they still are now, as late as this week.
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  Georgia's Capitol, the Gold Dome has erupted since the FBI raid took place last week.
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  And guess who was there?
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  Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence.
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  The DOJ has sued Raffensburger and Georgia, like many states, for failing to turn over unredacted voter roles.
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  The DOJ says they want to check for accuracy.
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  Well, the Georgia Senate this week passed a resolution after a couple of hours of debate urging Raffensburger to cooperate with the DOJ, but he remains defiant, saying, quote, state law is very clear that we are not allowed to turn over the voters' complete social security number, day, month, year of birth.
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  He went on to say, quote, we will see you in federal court, unquote.
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  Names like Leonardo, SPA satellites from Italy, Smartmatic, Hammer and Scorecard, Dominion, Serbians in Ukraine, ballots from China.
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  Those would seem like good reasons to have the director of all 18 U.S.
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  intelligence agencies involved in that search.
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  And we have learned that President Donald Trump requested her, Tulsi Gabbard, to be there on the ground.
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  And not only that, he asked her to pass her phone to the FBI so he could speak to them directly while they were there.
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  Tulsi Gabbard posted this on X.
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  My presence was requested by the president and executed under my broad statutory authority to coordinate, integrate and analyze intelligence related to election security, including counterintelligence, foreign and other malign influence, and cyber security.
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  They said the voting machines couldn't connect to the internet.
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  It's funny.
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  And that's why some of us today still have questions still.
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  The FBI raid, Tulsi Gabbard, Raffensburger, all of it has yanked the band-aid off that steady Georgia murmur as outbursts from both political sides begin to rage.
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  And that is why Georgia is always on my mind.
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  I'm Booker Scott, and this is The Truth Be Told on America Out Loud Talk Radio.
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  If you're listening live tonight, thank you for doing that.
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  If you found us on one of the many platforms, thank you so much for doing that and taking that extra effort.
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  Garland Favorito has appeared on this program a couple of times.
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  It's been a couple of years since he's been here.
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  He is here tonight, and we also have an all-star crew of grassroots ground crew from the state of Georgia.
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  They have been in this fight for five years now.
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  There is new information coming out, and we're going to get into that.
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  We're going to start the conversation with Garland.
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  Garland, great to have you back on the program.
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  I really do appreciate you making the time to come and do this.
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  I know you don't have a whole lot of time, but let's get started and see where this will take us tonight.
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  It's great to be back on America Out Loud again with you.
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  Well, let's get people caught up on the latest.
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  What has been going on recently in Georgia?
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  It's been a couple of years since you've been on the program.
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  I know a lot of things are happening.
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  It seems to be blowing up in Georgia right now, and that outburst, that rage of the last five years is coming.
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  We see the left, the Democrats now are uh they are complaining about what's happening.
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  They think Donald Trump has overstepped his bounds by going and getting 700 boxes there from Fulton County.
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  What do you make of all of that as we begin?
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  Well, it's it's a long story just to give everybody a little bit of background.
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  Um, this whole thing started back on November 14th of 2020 when Fulton County conducted a hand count audit, and uh Susie Voyles and Barbara Hartman found counterfeit ballots while they were conducting the audit.
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  They were two of the auditors, um, and they were confirmed by um two other uh senior poll managers, four senior poll managers, and two uh audit monitors.
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  Uh six of them uh found the ballots, they brought them to the attention of the elections officials at that time.
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  It was uh Nathan Williams, who's now the elections director in um in Fulton County, and uh there was no provisions.
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  The state has no provisions for uh handling uh in illegitimate ballots.
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  So they were told to just keep on counting them, and they're still there in the count uh today.
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  Uh, we don't know how many, but um after that day, the next day when the audit uh could uh finished up, and uh the all six of them signed sworn affidavits that they had found uh counterfeit ballots, and then they knew they were not counterfeit because uh they knew they were counterfeit because they were mailing ballots, they were not upfolded from being mailed, they were uh not written with a writing instrument.
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  Uh, they were looked like they were toner copied, and they were not on the correct paper stock for a ballot, and they were voted the same way down ballot for a dozen ballots in a row.
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  So it was pretty obvious uh that they were in, you know, actual uh forgeries or copies.
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  So anyway, they filed the sworn affidavit, they went into a case, uh Lynwood case the next uh morning on Monday, which would have been the 16th of November, and uh that case was kicked out by the uh U.S.
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  district uh court judge who didn't really want to uh look at the evidence, and then we filed the case on December 20th, 23rd, excuse me, of 2020.
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  Uh, and then we uh went to case that was an equal protection and due process case.
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  And the argument is that if counterfeit ballots were inserted into the count, it diluted the votes of all the other uh voters, plus it was a due process problem, so it was both due process and equal protection uh violation under both federal and state constitutions.
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  So we had a pretty uh rock solid case, and um we went to court.
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  The very first hearing we had was I guess what day?
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  January 6th of 2021, and we got a protective order on the ballots on the next day.
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  Um after the hearing, uh that was kind of interesting because Fulton County was panicked, and they had to stop the hearing.
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  Oh, it was a remote hearing, and we had to go home.
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  They had to go home to their uh w homes because they were afraid they were going to be attacked down at uh Fulton County government center.
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  So anyway, the that was when the the ballot uh preservation order got put on.
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  We uh and that actually made maintained that order till this day, but uh uh there was a lot of ups and downs uh along the way.
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  Um we um after 10 months and and seven rulings in our favor, uh the judge finally decided that we suddenly we didn't have standing.
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  We knew that we did.
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  We appealed that to the Georgia uh Supreme Court.
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  Supreme Court said, yes, of course, uh anyone, uh any citizen has standing to sue a government agency or official who violated the law.
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  Uh, we they made that decision unanimously without even a hearing.
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  I was kind of looking forward to going to court.
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  Um so uh uh unfortunately hadn't been in Supreme Court um you know for a long time.
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  But anyway, so that uh decision for the Georgia Supreme Court, um, you know, reinstated the the order.
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  The protective order and and the previous orders, and uh then Fulton County became a you know, started to be a shell game.
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  Uh suddenly, uh, you know, the one judge transferred the case to another judge uh who we knew was biased, and we filed a motion to recuse him.
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  Uh that another judge uh uh in Fulton County uh denied our motion.
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  And um basically.
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  It just went to be, it came, it was a shell game for another couple of years.
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  The case was put on on hold.
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  Uh, and then the order was still in place, though, when the FBI um conducted their search warrant last week and uh got uh virtually pretty much everything that Fulton County had for the 2020 election.
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  So that's kind of the backstory uh for what happened uh last week there at the warehouse.
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  Well, Garland, let's talk a little bit about standing and the court cases, because in total there were 60 court cases that were filed around the 2020 election.
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  That's not just Georgia, that's every state.
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  The result of that is Donald Trump won one and he lost five.
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  The rest of them were thrown out because most of the time they didn't have standing.
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  And sometimes it was on merit, but not many times.
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  I think there are now five cases that are continuing, maybe six.
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  But talk about that standing and why so many of these court cases really never had any evidence before a judge or especially a jury.
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  Well, right.
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  Um, and you know, if you talk to attorneys, what they'll tell you is that the standing is kind of a a joke of an issue of uh of uh issue.
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  It's what judges use when they don't want to hear a case.
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  And they come up with this uh standing issue, you know, like you saw in the U.S.
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  Supreme Court uh with Texas v Pennsylvania, uh the U.S.
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  Supreme Court said that Texas uh you know didn't have uh standing the you know, the the the uh voters of Texas don't have standing in a federal election in which Pennsylvania could have uh influenced the their vote.
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  I mean, it's just crazy stuff.
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  Uh so but you know, you do have to show a personal um uh an injury, a personal injury.
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  So it can't be just theoretical, uh, but it has to be real.
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  Uh but once it you if you've established some a real injury, then you should continue.
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  But um this is the excuse um that judges are using to get out of handling cases that are too much of a hot potato.
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  Uh so if um, you know, basically it's just uh a way out for them because they don't have enough courage to do the right thing.
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  You mentioned Lynn Wood's lawsuit that was November 20th, 2020.
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  The district court stated that the claims of Lynn Wood, a registered voter.
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  He could be dismissed either for a lack of standing or um for other reasons, but the court did rule on the merits of that.
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  But that doesn't mean they ever saw any evidence.
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  And I think sometimes the left uses that the fact that there were all these court cases, and none of them went the way to prove that there was uh election fraud.
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  Um, but that's just not the case.
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  That's not really happened.
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  It didn't really happen that way.
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  Let's uh go to some sound here.
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  This is John Solomon from just the news.
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  He's gonna tell us about what this uh warrant was that the FBI served on Fulton County last week.
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  About 700 boxes of ballots were collected there by FBI agents.
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  Our reporting here in Justin News has uncovered that the FBI search warrant approving that raid cited a law that perhaps fraud by election workers.
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  The search warrant for the Fulton County election hub near Atlanta, which is the major city in uh Georgia was signed by a federal magister, and it's specifically cited two sections of Title 52 of the U.S.
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  Code.
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  Specifically the sections that were cited, ban someone who knowingly and willfully deprives the frauds or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a state of a fair and impartially conducted election process, uh, either through the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by a person to be material false, fictitious or fraudulent under the laws of the state in which the election is held.
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  Now, Georgia is suing the federal government and the Department of Justice.
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  They want their boxes back, Garland.
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  Are they going to have any success with that?
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  Uh obviously not.
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  Uh, you know, the the FBI is conducting a criminal investigation.
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  I mean, there were there was crime scene tape all over there.
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  I think there's a picture of Jason and me standing in front of it.
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  Uh uh, but you know, it's it's a criminal investigation.
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  They're gonna use the normal chain of custody procedures that they use and you know, make sure everything's locked down tight, and um they'll reach some investigative conclusions.
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  And uh it's I I think it's kind of hilarious that uh they're trying to get their um uh ballots back.
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  But you know, who knows?
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  They can find a corrupt judge in Fulton County if they can file that case in Fulton County.
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  I don't think they can.
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  I think it's a federal matter now.
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  Uh, but they they could easily find a corrupt judge in Fulton County to rule in their favor.
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  But I I think they're they're gonna have to put that in federal court if I understand it correctly.
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  What do you make of the information John Solomon just shared about the warrant?
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  Have you seen that?
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  And does that make sense?
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  Is this bigger than just people at Fulton County doing something?
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  Is their outside interference?
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  And maybe that's the reason why Tulsi Gabbard was there last week.
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  Yeah, it's a great question, but and I don't think we really know if there's out outside interference.
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  I think that we have been able to put together what happened uh from the electronic records, um, it which are just absolutely fascinating.
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  Um the but uh we don't really know if that was outside interference or whether or not it was just an inside job.
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  But I think we're gonna find out that the results just don't add up.
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  They don't have ballots for the number of votes that they certified.
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  Um there's a lot of things, a lot of electronic records are missing.
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  Uh uh actually, I testified uh a couple of weeks ago.
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  It's over one million uh electronic records are missing.
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  For you know, there were half a million ballots certified, and for each ballot, you have to have a ballot image, uh, an authentication file, a scan log entry, um, you know, if it's in person, you have to have a tabulator tape that's signed.
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  Uh, and you know, there's so there's a lot of this is missing, hundreds of thousands of missing uh images, and you have to have those both for the recount and the original count, none of which ever added up.
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  Neither the neither the count nor the recount nor the hand count audit ever added up.
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  There was uh a 4880 vote difference between the original and the recount.
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  And then there was 6,691 one double reported ballots in the audit.
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  Uh so it's just um it's just a hodgepodge of confusion.
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  Uh it looked like um they really had to kind of backfill um cast vote records to make everything add up.
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  Uh that would be my my guess.
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  Um you think there's evidence in those boxes to prove that?
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  Will it be able to be proven?
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  Well, I think the main thing they're going to be able to prove is they don't have the correct number of ballots for what they certified, and they probably don't have the envelopes for those ballots either.
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  I don't know, maybe uh those are I would imagine those are two really high-level uh, I guess what you call the low-hanging fruit that that anyone could could pick off, particularly the FBI.
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  So I think we should get answers on those pretty quickly.
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  Um I and there's probably more complicated things they can look at.
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  They'll probably be looking for number of counterfeit ballots, and uh, there's certain ways that you can detect that um with paper experts and with the appropriate high resolution scans.
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  Well, Harry Hari is the chairman of Unite for Freedom.
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  They are with us tonight.
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  I'm not sure that Harry is, but hopefully we're gonna find out during the commercial break.
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  But what I am gonna do is play this clip of him talking about the 2022 election in Georgia, because it wasn't just 2020, it has continued since then.
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  Listen to this.
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  What we find here across the whole country is a lack of reconciliation or control points.
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  Anyone that has an experience in auditing, and I have both financial auditing experience and cyber forensic auditing in experience.
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  Knows that you have to have control measures so that you can figure out what happened when there's an error.
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  Most people don't understand this, but in 2022, the official election results in Georgia still have a 39,000 vote discrepancy between the official number of voters and the official number of votes.
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  I am not saying that that was an error in the count.
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  I'm saying that the control systems are not working.
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  What do you make of that there, Garland?
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  And it sounds like he's talking about the same thing that you're talking about there.
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  Yeah, so and for folks who don't know Harry, Harry literally was co-wrote the Hava Act in 2002.
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  Uh so this this gentleman knows what he's talking about.
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  Um, and and by say Hava, I'm talking about the Help America Vote Act.
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  So he had a hand in in and authoring that.
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  So he certainly does know uh what he's talking about.
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  And he's right there is, I think I I didn't hear the exact number, but I think it's like 25,535 is the number I've got, which was about the same as his number of uh votes difference between what was the number of ballots cast and the number of voters who voted.
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  So in other words, uh number of voters who voted are short by 25,535.
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  Uh, and that was in a race that was um, you know, decided by 11,000 and uh 779.
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  And the U.S.
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  Senate race uh was decided by I think less than 25,000.
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  So uh that uh, you know.
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  David Purdue had to go into a runoff.
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  So it's that's very, very uh suspect there that it could have actually impacted both the Senate and presidential race.
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  We're gonna keep this conversation going in a few minutes.
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  I want to get into Senator David Perdue in the fact that Judge Scott McAfee has released the grand jury testimony, and uh Senator Purdue was in there.
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  And um, we're gonna get into that coming up after the break.
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  But before we get to the break, I want you to listen to this speaker that spoke in Fulton County on Wednesday.
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  He has some great points here, and I think this is the way we probably all feel.
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  I'm hearing a lot of issues going on in Fulton County, and it seems as if nobody on this panel is actually doing their jobs.
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  You were elected as public servants.
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  It's not about lobbyists, whatever, whoever wherever money is coming from, you're supposed to do your jobs.
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  That lady came up here and talked about what's going on in College Park.
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  How many of you actually been there?
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  You ask somebody else to come up and talk about those jails.
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  How many have been there?
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  And we start talking about election integrity.
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  That's a major, major thing for anybody.
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  I don't care about a Democrat, I don't care about a Republican.
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  I care about election integrity.
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  Stop blaming people.
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  People always complain about politics and everything like that.
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  Politics does not trickle down from the president.
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  Stop blaming the president for everything.
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  Every single issue that was talked about today ain't got nothing to do with Trump.
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  Has everything to do with every local official elected here.
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  What exactly are you doing for your constituents?
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  That's a problem.
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  I'm so sick of partisan every I don't want to hear about liberal conservative, none of that.
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  We are American citizens.
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  If you're not protecting them, you're not doing your job.
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  If you're not doing your job, you shouldn't be here.
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  That's a major problem.
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  It's a major issue.
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  And if you don't want to do your job, just step down.
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  We pray for rain.
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  Thank you when it's falling because it brings a grain in a little bit of money.
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  We put it back in the plate.
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  I guess it's why they call it God's country.
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  We're visiting with Garland Favorito and the ground crew from the state of Georgia, who has worked their rear ends off for five years since the election in November.
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  Maybe they feel like things are starting to turn after the FBI raid that took place last week.
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  Let's go now to Jason Frazier.
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  Let me get your thoughts on the FBI raid.
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  Did you feel a sense of maybe something is starting to happen here?
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  I don't think Jason's got as a mic yet.
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  Well, Garland, I'll come back to you.
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  Let's let's pick up where we were with uh what's going on there in Atlanta.
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  Um the the other thing that we haven't uh mentioned, and maybe we'll do this for another show was we do also uh are tacking on the voting machines as well.
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  The um we have a federal lawsuit against the EAC to vacate Dominion uh democracy suite 5.5 voting system on the grounds it was never legitimately certified.
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  It stores encryption keys and clear plain text, and it has hard hard-coded uh passwords that are used.
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  Um, so that's a whole nother issue uh that uh we were hoping to get a hearing on, maybe even this month.
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  Um, so we're we're going after every conceivable angle we can to try to clean up elections in Georgia.
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  Well, let me ask you the same question that I posed there to Jason that he couldn't answer.
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  What do you think with this FBI raid?
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  Does it feel like you're getting somewhere finally after all the work that you've done?
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Um uh not only with the uh you know the FBI search warrant that was executed, but the other thing, place where we're making tremendous progress is with the state election board.
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  The state election board has turned over, and we now have three uh, you know, election integrity-minded uh individuals.
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  And so we have a majority who really care about election integrity.
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  Uh, Dr.
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  Jan Johnston, you've probably seen in different clips, as well as Janelle King and uh and uh formerly Rick Jeffries, now Sally Grubbs.
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  But we've these three people really care.
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  Uh, and we have been able to put a lot of evidence, particularly about Fulton County, uh, on the record.
• 27:29
  And uh Dr.
• 27:30
  Johnston is is an absolute heroine.
• 27:32
  She has had to fight the Secretary of State's office, the Secretary of State's legal counsel, the attorney general, and the even the chair of the state election board, uh, multiple chairs in fact, just to get some of the uh, you know, that of what happened in Fulton County.
• 27:52
  It's unbelievable the complicity of officials in the state, and most of these officials claim to be Republicans.
• 28:01
  I think the officials in Fulton County are starting to feel the heat.
• 28:05
  Like there may be some accountability coming.
• 28:08
  Let's listen to this Fulton County official.
• 28:10
  This is what he had to say about that this week.
• 28:12
  Well, I'm told that I mean I've got enough.
• 28:14
  I I received a call on Monday before last Wednesday before the raid that there were going to be arrests uh in Georgia.
• 28:22
  Secretary of State, uh, his deputy, uh Sterling, I believe his name is, me and two or three others.
• 28:29
  Uh that did not happen on Monday.
• 28:32
  It didn't happen on Tuesday.
• 28:34
  But lo and behold, on Wednesday, the FBI shows up.
• 28:38
  And in addition to the FBI showing up, when uh Tulsi Gabbard showed up, and we'd heard a rumor that she may be coming.
• 28:44
  I couldn't believe it.
• 28:46
  But I didn't meet her, didn't talk to her, but she was in fact uh there.
• 28:50
  So that leads me to believe, and any rational thinking person that there's something sinister going on here.
• 28:57
  There's something bigger than just the FBI uh uh confiscating the record records that they took.
• 29:04
  So that's why I say that.
• 29:07
  But nothing happened.
• 29:08
  Now, after the uh F FBI raid on Wednesday, on Friday, I received another call.
• 29:17
  Actually, it was Monday, this Monday.
• 29:19
  Uh same source saying that uh you guys can't relax, even though the FBI has been there and they've confiscated uh the 700 boxes.
• 29:30
  Arrests are coming.
• 29:31
  So what do you think of that, guys?
• 29:34
  He's gonna have to wait and see.
• 29:36
  What do you think?
• 29:36
  Is there some accountability?
• 29:39
  Uh uh, yeah, I think there's definitely gonna be accountability.
• 29:42
  I mean, I don't know that he really had any inside information, but certainly the FBI and well, at least the DOJ and that I think they have plenty of evidence that there was complicity.
• 29:56
  It's not just the problems in Fulton County, but there is complicity.
• 30:00
  Uh in this whole thing.
• 30:02
  One of the other things I want to know is uh why was the elections group, uh, a CTCL funded group handling the logic and axis testing, signature uh verification, the audit, and even the ballot reconciliation when they with the final certification numbers.
• 30:21
  Uh, and they were doing this without anyone's knowledge on the Fulton County election board.
• 30:27
  So that was something that's incredibly shady.
• 30:30
  That needs to be um uh investigated deeper.
• 30:33
  And uh the you know, CTCL Center for Technology Civic Light is a group that was funded by Mark Zuckerberg, and we all know that Mark Zuckerberg spent 330 million dollars essentially trying to buy the 2020 election, and his policy director at CTCL was David Pluth, who wrote the book as Citizen's Guide to Beating Donald Trump.
• 30:55
  In Wisconsin, he did the same thing by with a guy named Michael Rubinstein.
• 30:59
  I don't know if you remember him, but this happened in Wisconsin.
• 31:02
  It happened in Michigan, Georgia, Arizona, probably Nevada, um, Pennsylvania.
• 31:09
  I don't know.
• 31:10
  There's five or six states there that I think that every one of those states needs to be looked at.
• 31:15
  Garland, if you don't mind, could you introduce Jason Fraser to everyone?
• 31:19
  He has a microphone now, and he's ready to join the conversation.
• 31:23
  I I am so glad you asked me that.
• 31:26
  Jason, uh, I love Jason to death and his wife Lucia.
• 31:29
  They have um Jason has just been a bulldog on the voter rolls.
• 31:35
  That is his specialty.
• 31:37
  And um, he has found uh so many problems.
• 31:41
  You might have seen him uh on uh on uh social media videos, race and uh going around with David Kate.
• 31:48
  But uh he has got uncovered so much.
• 31:52
  And I think just to summarize it, I would say approximately 20% of Georgia's uh voter roles have had invalid registrations, despite the fact that the Secretary of State says it there we've got the cleanest voter rolls in the nation.
• 32:08
  So uh Jason Frazier and Lucia have made uh the Secretary of State and Gabriel Sterling look awfully, awfully bad.
• 32:16
  Um he is a real patriot.
• 32:18
  He is he is he's done this as a volunteer.
• 32:22
  Uh he doesn't get paid.
• 32:24
  Uh, and you know, they they are petrified.
• 32:27
  They want to they we they was nominated for the state election board by the Fulton County GOP, and they um the Fulton County did not want him on the board.
• 32:37
  They have fought uh tooth and nail, even uh at the threat of $10,000 a day pines to keep Jason off.
• 32:44
  Uh, and all he's done is just simply try to get invalid registrations off of the voter rolls.
• 32:51
  And uh, so I consider Jason an incredible patriot.
• 32:55
  I'm just really uh uh proud to serve uh right alongside of him.
• 33:00
  Thank you, Garland.
• 33:01
  Jason, come on in and join the conversation.
• 33:04
  What are your thoughts after the FBI raid?
• 33:07
  Do you feel like there's some accountability coming?
• 33:10
  I sure hope so.
• 33:11
  I mean, the biggest thing that uh I'm sure you've been hearing other folks uh talk about is is number one.
• 33:17
  We just need to know what happened.
• 33:18
  We need to make sure it doesn't happen again.
• 33:20
  That's that's primary.
• 33:22
  And we've got the uh the midterm elections coming up very quickly.
• 33:26
  So my hope uh initially is that they can get those ballots.
• 33:31
  I mean, they've got the ballots now.
• 33:32
  My my understanding is they're in Virginia.
• 33:35
  I have heard the team looking at them are top-notch folks.
• 33:39
  So my hope, like Garland was saying, is they get the ballot scanned, they understand what was real, what wasn't real, what are assumptions, and how do we patch this, fix this election coming up, moving forward, and make sure this never happens again.
• 33:54
  And I mean, we've seen this is more than a Fulton problem.
• 33:58
  It's more than a Georgia problem.
• 33:59
  I mean, we have the the quote unquote water main break, but other states stopped counting the exact same time.
• 34:06
  So, I mean, that leads me to believe that it is more than just a uh a corrupt administration in Fulton County.
• 34:12
  It is it is has to be bigger than that.
• 34:15
  What have you found in your work on the voter roles there in Georgia?
• 34:19
  Have you had the success that you want to have?
• 34:22
  Have you found a lot that should just not be there?
• 34:25
  Can you even have access to what it takes for you to actually be able to answer those questions?
• 34:31
  Well, I mean, I've got the same access that uh that the federal government has right now in for Fulton County is we can you can buy a voter roll in the state of Georgia for 485 dollars for the entire state.
• 34:44
  Uh, but that voter roll does not have full date of birth, which is fine.
• 34:47
  Some states give you that, and that makes it easier to find duplicates or people that have moved out of state because you can you can have a tighter match.
• 34:55
  But part of the problems are we you are supposed to have full legal name on the voter rolls, and you'll find a ton of people with a middle initial, no middle name at all.
• 35:05
  They'll have typos in their names.
• 35:08
  And when there's a typo, you'll see people listed two, three, four, as many as you know, sometimes it's five times or more, and they have slight typos within their name.
• 35:18
  Any anybody with a hyphenation in their name or a double last name are almost always registered multiple times.
• 35:26
  So what that kind of leads me to believe is if they're not checking names, and we see data birth errors all the time, so they're not checking dates of birth.
• 35:36
  I see people registered at wrong addresses.
• 35:39
  A lot of times they're typos.
• 35:41
  It might be there's a house at 252 Main Street, but they have them at 525, and you look at tax records, and you can find that it's a typo.
• 35:50
  But there's no house where they put them, which means they're not checking addresses either.
• 35:54
  So if they're not checking name, date of birth, or address, how in the world do they know that they're a citizen?
• 36:00
  So that's that's one of the biggest things.
• 36:02
  And why I'm so happy that the uh the DOJ is trying to get nationwide voter rolls, is because then with social security numbers, they can verify all of this.
• 36:12
  They can see did Bob move to Florida with the name of Bob, but he's Robert in Florida, it's the same guy.
• 36:20
  They can clean that up.
• 36:22
  That's the only way to do it, isn't it?
• 36:23
  That's really the only way to do it.
• 36:24
  You have to have the social security number.
• 36:26
  You gotta have the source number.
• 36:28
  And Brad Raffensberger keeps saying we can't give the feds our their social security number because of you know security.
• 36:35
  But, you know, I don't think you were born yesterday either.
• 36:39
  That the feds give us our social security number.
• 36:41
  Yeah.
• 36:41
  So it's just nonsensical.
• 36:43
  Well, thank you, Jason.
• 36:44
  And Garland, I know that you have to go.
• 36:46
  So thank you so much for joining the program tonight.
• 36:49
  We're gonna get to a few more voices in Georgia to talk about this here in just a few minutes.
• 36:53
  We're up against a break, but before we go to that, I think that election integrity is important for everybody.
• 37:00
  It really doesn't matter whether you're left, right, conservative, liberal, can Republican, or Democrat.
• 37:05
  You heard that speaker in Fulton County on Wednesday that I played earlier in the hour.
• 37:09
  He said that.
• 37:10
  I don't know that he's a Republican or Democrat.
• 37:12
  I don't know what he is, but he's a concerned citizen, and most of us feel exactly like he does.
• 37:17
  And that's what the polls show.
• 37:19
  Here is CNN.
• 37:20
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• 37:21
  Favor photo ID to vote.
• 37:22
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  A photo ID to vote is not controversial in this country.
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• 40:25
  Coming up tonight at nine o'clock, it is after dark with Robin Andrew.
• 40:28
  Before that, you can hear the national security hour at eight Eastern.
• 40:32
  And coming up here in a few minutes, it is unleashed the political news hour.
• 40:35
  I'm Booker Scott.
• 40:37
  This is The Truth Be Told.
• 40:38
  Thank you for joining us tonight and every night.
• 40:40
  I really do appreciate it.
• 40:41
  We're digging into Georgia now.
• 40:43
  We have the ground crew, the grassroots people that have been trying to bring the truth, and really that's all they're searching for.
• 40:50
  I don't think they're making any large accusations.
• 40:53
  I don't know that they ever have.
• 40:54
  I think they're like me and maybe like you.
• 40:57
  They have questions.
• 40:58
  Why can't we get these questions answered after five years?
• 41:02
  And as Jason said a few minutes ago, so that we can fix it so that this doesn't happen again because it should never happen again.
• 41:08
  What other happen whatever happened?
• 41:10
  But I think most of us know that something did happen.
• 41:13
  I want to go to Kathy Latham.
• 41:15
  Kathy, if you could come in here and kind of share your story and what you've been through there in the state of Georgia.
• 41:22
  Well, hey, all you Georgians.
• 41:25
  Um my name's Kathy Latham.
• 41:27
  I was one of the uh 19 indicted with President Trump, or 18 indicted because he was 19.
• 41:33
  Um I now live in Texas.
• 41:37
  Um, but it has been a ride.
• 41:40
  Let me tell you, it's been a ride, just you know, doing all this.
• 41:43
  Um, I was gonna let y'all know that uh Sunday I spent a few hours with the FBI talking about Fulton County.
• 41:51
  Really?
• 41:52
  So I'm still fighting for y'all.
• 41:54
  Can you talk about that, Kathy?
• 41:56
  Well, I mean, they're just um, you know, they're curious of what was going on, you know, and that they are looking at what possibly could have been maybe a conspiracy or something.
• 42:11
  They're trying to find out the players that they're trying to find, you know, that what is gone on.
• 42:18
  One of the funny things that the guys told me, he says, I understand the guy looked at me, he goes, I understand you were indicted, and you were one of these indicted conspirators.
• 42:29
  He says, But now you are a material witness.
• 42:32
  Interesting.
• 42:32
  I started laughing.
• 42:33
  That's interesting that he called you a material witness, though.
• 42:36
  Were these were these local Texas FBI agents, or did they come from Washington, D.C.
• 42:41
  They came with orders from DC, but they were they were Texas guys.
• 42:45
  Okay, they were Texas guys, yeah.
• 42:47
  Well, let's visit your case real quick, if we could.
• 42:49
  I talked about it earlier in this hour with the judge that was over your case was Scott McAfee, and he released the testimony from the grand jury.
• 42:59
  Have you seen that about uh Senator Purdue and what he claimed in that testimony in that hearing?
• 43:06
  I'm looking to get all my hands on all of the grand jury testimonies.
• 43:12
  Um I'm waiting to get my dump of all of my um discovery from my lawyer, and uh that that's in the process because there it's like terabytes of information.
• 43:24
  Sure, well we have about half of it.
• 43:26
  So let me tell you what what he said, and I'll tell you and everybody else that's listening.
• 43:31
  He said that uh under oath in the grand jury, he said that Governor Brian Kemp halted the investigation into the 2020 Fulton County election, even after the Georgia Bureau of Investigation saw compelling evidence.
• 43:46
  Now, Senator Purdue claimed that he received a phone call in November 2021 from Vic Reynolds, who was the head of the GBI investigation, and in that call, Reynolds told Purdue, uh, according to the grand jury testimony that we're not going to investigate.
• 44:03
  The governor wants me to tell you why we're not going to investigate.
• 44:08
  Purdue explained that Reynolds said he was a team player, and if the governor doesn't want to investigate, we're not going to.
• 44:18
  Do you believe that?
• 44:19
  Do you think that's probably the truth?
• 44:22
  Absolutely.
• 44:23
  Absolutely do I believe that's the truth.
• 44:26
  I don't believe uh Senator Purdue would perjure himself in any way to save you know, to do anything like that.
• 44:35
  He is 100% true.
• 44:36
  Yeah, I believe.
• 44:37
  I think he's a good guy too.
• 44:38
  Well, Kathy, thank you and uh keep us updated, please stay here in the speaker box and we'll come back to you.
• 44:44
  Let's go to Unite for Georgians, Unite for Georgians.
• 44:48
  Come in here and tell us what your work has been over the last five years, what you're doing there in the state of Georgia.
• 44:53
  Unite for Georgians or Georgians for truth.
• 44:56
  Uh Georgians for truth.
• 44:57
  I apologize.
• 44:58
  Okay.
• 44:59
  Um my name is Field Cersei, I'm the co-founder along with Sam Carnline.
• 45:04
  And we started in 22.
• 45:05
  I think Sam started a little bit before I did, but we've been in the awareness business trying to make people aware of what's going on.
• 45:12
  And we start Sam started a campaign called Paper Please at the Grady County Board of uh Commission, and I connected with him, and we've got a uh road show we've been going all over the state for hand counting, and um we just recently completed a seven county audit of the 2024 uh election slog files, and the slog files are the tabulator tapes, and we looked at the uh the error rate in there, and our belief is that these machines should have never been certified in the first place, that they don't meet the EAC guidelines.
• 45:57
  Um and um we have a website called Georgians for truth.org, and you can go download this report.
• 46:05
  There's a two-page flyer, and there's uh eight-page full report.
• 46:09
  But um, we just been going all over the state.
• 46:12
  We've been to almost every SCB meeting trying to rally people to be there.
• 46:16
  And we went to all the blue almost all the blue ribbon committee meetings that were conducted last year by the House Special Committee.
• 46:25
  Kind of disappointed in their report they gave Monday.
• 46:31
  But uh, it's been a journey, I tell you.
• 46:33
  Yeah, well, thank you so much for your work.
• 46:35
  And let me go back to something you said there a few minutes ago about the certification of the voting machines because as I recall in 2019, prior to the 2020 election, and even months before that Secretary of State Raffensburger was told that those machines were not certified.
• 46:52
  Yeah, I used to deal a lot with Georgia elections myself on social media.
• 46:57
  I even got Gabriel Rock, uh uh Gabriel Sterling to respond to me one Saturday morning.
• 47:01
  He told me I was lying when I said in June of 2021, there are over 300,000 ballots with no chain of custody.
• 47:08
  And of course, it appears that I was right in Gabriel Sterling was a big fat liar.
• 47:14
  Um, I want to go to Mark Davis.
• 47:15
  Mark Davis deals with data.
• 47:17
  He's an analyst and Mark, come on into the conversation.
• 47:20
  Let's talk about what you have found, what it means for what's going on in Georgia right now.
• 47:25
  Good to be on with everybody.
• 47:27
  I'm driving back from Orlando, so uh probably visit with you for a few minutes and then uh jump.
• 47:35
  Um so my name's Mark Davis.
• 47:37
  Um been working with voter rolls in Georgia for about 40 years, and I've been serving as an analyst and expert witness in election cases for the last 23.
• 47:48
  And when the 2020 election came rolling around, I uh got out a copy of the voter rolls and I started doing the same kind of normally do in some of these much smaller cases that I work.
• 48:01
  Um they're usually like a house district or a county or what have you, but this time I ran the analysis uh statewide and um ended up finding evidence of systemic regularities in that election.
• 48:14
  And when I use that term, I am referring to the Georgia Supreme Court's definition of it, uh, which can be found on page 15 of Smith versus Long County, which is uh double voting case that I was involved in down there in Long County.
• 48:32
  Um when I found that evidence, um, I did two things with it.
• 48:37
  Uh first I got it to the Trump attorneys, it became part of the Trump versus Rathensburger lawsuit, and then I also um partnered with a friend of mine who's uh a former FBI agent to do challenges to uh those voters because we didn't want them repeating residency issues in the um upcoming U.S.
• 48:59
  Senate runoff, and that got us sued by Stacey Abrams, Mark Elias in the uh Fairfight versus true the vote case, and that was three years of law fair.
• 49:08
  We eventually won it.
• 49:10
  But um I've been working on these residency issues for a long time.
• 49:14
  I first appeared before the state election board to discuss them as far back as 2002, and we still have them going on.
• 49:22
  And so anyway, um, the long and the short of it was there were about 110,000 voters who had moved from one jurisdiction to another.
• 49:31
  Um failing to re-register.
• 49:34
  Uh we also had the kind of issues that Jason Frazier and David Cate have been doing a fantastic job bringing public attention to with folks registered at commercial mail receiving agencies or commercial addresses or vacant lots or or what have you.
• 49:50
  Um but in this case, um what I was prepared to testify as an expert witness for President Trump about.
• 50:00
  The kind of residency violations that occur specifically when people move jurisdictions.
• 50:05
  And the 110,000 folks that were in that boat, most of them didn't even try to cast an unlawful ballot.
• 50:11
  But the data indicates that there's probable cause to investigate about 35,000 of them.
• 50:18
  In 2026, that I mean 2022, that number was about 26,000.
• 50:23
  In 2024, it was about 36,000.
• 50:27
  So it's interesting that the number from 2024 was almost the same as it was for 2020.
• 50:35
  But I've been raising these issues for a long time, and I've testified several times in various committees of the uh Georgia General Assembly.
• 50:43
  The last one was the Blue Ribbon Study Committee on October the 2nd.
• 50:48
  And during that testimony, I I went ahead and informed the uh committee that on September the 10th, the same uh day that the shooting happened.
• 50:58
  Um I had gotten a call from the DOJ about a complaint that I had submitted.
• 51:04
  And I am told them basically what I just told you, and um that was that.
• 51:12
  Um I can't draw a straight line between that and the and the raid that happened.
• 51:17
  Um I think that line looks more like a spider web, quite frankly.
• 51:21
  I think there were a lot of folks in Georgia uh asking for the the feds to give our state some attention.
• 51:27
  I'm really glad that they finally have.
• 51:30
  Um I'm hoping that uh those issues will be looked into.
• 51:34
  I have reason to believe they probably will.
• 51:37
  Um I think I understand what's going on, and I'm very encouraged by it.
• 51:42
  I think we should all be encouraged by it.
• 51:45
  But I think we should all be aware that um the press is looking for um a comic book villain here.
• 51:53
  And um those of us that have had contact with the feds should be circumspect about um what we do and do not discuss because of that, um, and to give the feds room to do their work.
• 52:06
  Thank you, Mark.
• 52:07
  I'm gonna come back and ask you a question on the other side of the sound.
• 52:10
  I'm gonna play Senator Mark Warren of Virginia here, and here's what he thinks Donald Trump and the Department of Justice are up to.
• 52:18
  You just talked about uh the media maybe trying to find a villain or something like that.
• 52:24
  Maybe it is the case, but it's interesting to me to watch the Democrats and the left how they are spinning what happened in Georgia with the FBI last week and what they are saying this is all about.
• 52:36
  Because as you know, most of the country still watches mainstream media, that's where they get their their information.
• 52:42
  And unfortunately, this is what they're hearing.
• 52:45
  When you put all of this together, it is clear that what happened in Fulton County is not about revisiting the past, it is about shaping the outcome of future elections.
• 52:58
  And quite honestly, dismantling the very guardrails that were put in place to keep them free and fair.
• 53:04
  And Mark, I think that is what is happening right now.
• 53:07
  You have the left saying one thing, the right saying the other.
• 53:10
  But let me ask you what do you hope they find in those boxes?
• 53:14
  Or is there even a hope for you, or you just want the truth, whatever that is, and you feel like now that you can trust the people that are looking at it to come out and tell you this is what we found.
• 53:26
  I think the feds know exactly what they're looking for.
• 53:30
  Uh I was raised by a lawyer, and my dad used to always say a good lawyer never asks a question that he doesn't already know the answer to.
• 53:36
  Yeah, that's right.
• 53:38
  And I think the Democrats also know uh I think the Secretary of State also knows.
• 53:44
  Um, I think by now a lot of the issues that that are out there are well known.
• 53:50
  And I I think the feds know those issues, and I think they know exactly what to look for.
• 53:55
  And you know, when the when the FBI and uh DOJ, whoever, when when the government went into Mar-a-Lago, we were all told to trust the process.
• 54:04
  Okay, but now all of a sudden the Democrats are trying to front-run this thing and say, oh no, we can't trust the process.
• 54:10
  Yeah, okay.
• 54:11
  Well, I trust the process.
• 54:13
  I think we all should trust the process.
• 54:15
  I've got a lot of faith in what's happening.
• 54:17
  I'm very encouraged by it.
• 54:19
  And I've been in this fight for a whole lot of years, and in the last five years, I've seen more progress than I've ever seen.
• 54:25
  And I feel like um the tide is turning in our favor here.
• 54:30
  Um, and no matter what happens here, I think there's gonna be a lot of truth that is exposed.
• 54:35
  What the fallout will be from all of that truth being put on the table, that remains to be seen.
• 54:41
  Um I have an article coming out in the Federalist soon.
• 54:46
  The working title is um why election crime in Georgia is rarely prosecuted.
• 54:52
  Um I think uh when it comes out, you guys might want to give it a read.
• 54:56
  Um I don't think we'll get much justice here in Georgia, quite quite frankly.
• 55:02
  Uh, I think our only hope for getting it is gonna be from the feds.
• 55:07
  And um, I think that the folks in Fulton County and the folks in the Secretary of State's office, uh, they probably know that too.
• 55:14
  I mean, I think I think everybody that's a stakeholder here kind of knows what's happening, and I think it's scaring a lot of people, and some of those folks might have reason to be a little nervous.
• 55:26
  Yeah.
• 55:27
  I agree with you, Mark.
• 55:28
  Before we get out of here in this hour, I want to play this from Tommy Tubberville.
• 55:33
  He is running for governor in the state of Alabama, currently a senator.
• 55:36
  Listen to what he says the solution to all of these problems are.
• 55:39
  This is what Donald Trump wants, and this is what Tommy Tupperville is talking about.
• 55:43
  And then, of course, President Trump wants same-day voting, uh, mail ballots, get rid of these voting machines.
• 55:49
  There's a half a dozen people, whether it's the House or Senate Larry that are up here as we speak, that did not get elected.
• 55:55
  It was all bogus because we've seen the evidence, and if we don't straighten that out, you're gonna see a lot more of it this fall.
• 56:01
  And it's just gonna get worse and worse with the American people saying, Listen, we got all y'all up there, and you don't do anything to straighten it out.
• 56:08
  We won't close borders and we won't we won't fair elections.
• 56:12
  Those two things they are demanding.
• 56:14
  And as Republicans, we had better to listen to them and do that, or we're gonna lose uh next fall.
• 56:18
  And I agree with Tommy Tupperville there.
• 56:21
  It's really simple.
• 56:22
  Close the border and make sure our votes count.
• 56:25
  It's not too much to ask for.
• 56:26
  I'm Booker Scott.
• 56:27
  Thank you so much for joining us tonight and every night.
• 56:30
  And don't forget that you were told two thousand years ago that you are the salt of the earth and salt without flavor, it has no value.
• 56:37
  So whatever you do, keep being salty.
• 56:40
  Have a great night.
• 56:41
  There is only one truth.
• 56:43
  You've been listening to The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott on America Out Loud.