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Latest News from USMNT Camp & Who Should Play vs Turkiye!? · Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogert and Tab Ramos

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Speaker 1: If Christian Polistick is medically cleared to play, tab, would
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Speaker 1: you play him at all? Do you think he should
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Speaker 1: play at all?
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Speaker 2: That's a really quick question, and I you know, when
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Speaker 2: you're medically cleared and then at that point that means
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Speaker 2: that you can play and you're one hundred percent to play.
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Speaker 1: What's going on?
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Speaker 3: Everybody?
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Speaker 1: Welcome inside American Soccer. I am USM and T insider
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Speaker 1: Tom Boger, and I'm joined by one of the greatest
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Speaker 1: players in US soccer history, veteran of three World Cups,
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Speaker 1: my friend tab Ramos. Tab. You run the call for
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Speaker 1: France Iraq on Monday. The game was pretty fun. France
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Speaker 1: is incredible. What did you do during the two hour
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Speaker 1: weather delay?
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Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's a great question actually, and I wasn't
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Speaker 2: prepared for the answer for that. But no, they you know,
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Speaker 2: they made us obviously leave our area, our commentating area.
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Speaker 3: We had to go inside.
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Speaker 2: I worked for host broadcasts, so they had they had
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Speaker 2: an area for us that we could hang out in
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Speaker 2: where they had a bunch of TV and they had
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Speaker 2: some food and things like that. So it wasn't too
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Speaker 2: bad for us. It was it was actually difficult for
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Speaker 2: the fans. Because they all had to get into the
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Speaker 2: you know, all into the same areas and kind of
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Speaker 2: bunched together and and and to be fair, you know,
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Speaker 2: the stadium, the stadium was packed. You know, there was
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Speaker 2: a lot of Iraqi fans. Of course there were more
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Speaker 2: French fans. Uh. But I'm really amazed with the with
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Speaker 2: the amount of people that are coming out to these
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Speaker 2: World Cup games. You know, there's there's fans from everywhere,
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Speaker 2: and and obviously they all had a packings in area
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Speaker 2: and not many of them not familiar, you know, because
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Speaker 2: those of us, you know, being involved in soccer in
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Speaker 2: this country for a long time, we're used to the
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Speaker 2: whole lightning, you gotta go away kind of thing, but
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Speaker 2: a lot of fans are not. So they were they
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Speaker 2: were kind of clueless as to, hey, what's going on,
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Speaker 2: you know, and especially for all those people coming from overseas.
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Speaker 3: So uh, it was, uh, it was, it was very interesting.
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Speaker 2: But you know, after waiting, you know, for about an
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Speaker 2: hour and a half for the game to get restarted,
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Speaker 2: you know, France came back on and and just know
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Speaker 2: the you know the difference between the teams and the
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Speaker 2: quality that they have, and I tell you, Tom, there
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Speaker 2: They're so fun to watch. They really you know, sometimes
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Speaker 2: they get criticized because they go on cruise control in
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Speaker 2: certain games, but I just think they have a reason
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Speaker 2: for that. They're just they're just too good to be
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Speaker 2: at there at the top level all the time. They
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Speaker 2: can they can play halfway and beat most of these teams.
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Speaker 2: I mean, they really can. It's amazing, especially coming coming
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Speaker 2: out of that weather delay.
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Speaker 1: It it might take you a little while to get
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Speaker 1: into fourth year anyway, and what's the point. We can
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Speaker 1: just go and cruise control and win anyway. Okay, all right,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna take off them Bay Like, let's bring on
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Speaker 1: Ryan Turkey. It's insane, that's right, I do. It.
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Speaker 3: Was on the bench, chaw Many was on the bench.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're you know, you're bringing these guys in
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Speaker 2: and you're like, well but wait, you're taking all starters,
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Speaker 2: but you're adding more starters.
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Speaker 3: How does this work? You know?
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Speaker 2: How many starters do you have? It's it's really incredible.
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Speaker 2: I and I love watching them because, you know, and
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Speaker 2: it reminded me a little bit of that of that
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Speaker 2: sort of that air that Brazil has lost, you know,
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Speaker 2: because if I had a commit you know, we you know,
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Speaker 2: and I'm sure the time where you were going up,
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Speaker 2: like Brazil had the Jogo Benito and like every player
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Speaker 2: was exciting to watch. And now when we you know,
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Speaker 2: when France, when France's front let's say front four get
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Speaker 2: the ball, they're just as exciting to watch.
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Speaker 3: You don't know what's gonna.
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Speaker 2: Happen next, and it's you know, it's really it's really
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Speaker 2: fun to watch.
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Speaker 3: I'm enjoying it.
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Speaker 1: Tab. I love that comparison, and I think that you're
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Speaker 1: absolutely right with given all these different it's not just
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Speaker 1: not just the attacking towns in their quality but in
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Speaker 1: their style. I think that that's an excellent comparison and
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Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna feel that. So today we're not here
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Speaker 1: to talk about France. We're here to talk about the
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Speaker 1: US m N T. USA has already clinched Group D
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Speaker 1: with two wins after two games at the World Cup.
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Speaker 1: It is their best start literally ever in a World Cup,
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Speaker 1: or at least since nineteen thirty. The game against Turkey
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Speaker 1: A to close out the group stage is inconsequential the
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Speaker 1: USA or in first, Turkey and fourth. No matter what
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Speaker 1: happens on Thursday, that will not change. But we're still
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Speaker 1: gonna break down the game. We're gonna break down the
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Speaker 1: biggest questions around the USM and t's approach. Who do
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Speaker 1: you play, who do you rest rest versus rust? What
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Speaker 1: do you do with the full squad? What do you
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Speaker 1: do with some of the starters. We're gonna get into
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Speaker 1: all of that. We're still gonna give you TABS scouting
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Speaker 1: report and breakdown of Turkey A, and then we're gonna
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Speaker 1: have TABS story time inside the locker room. It's a
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Speaker 1: big one nineteen ninety four against Brazil and what I
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Speaker 1: would call to be an extraordinarily dirty elbow against tab.
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Speaker 1: But we'll let Tap fill you in there, and then
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Speaker 1: Tabs DraftKings, Max predictions. But let's start with the United
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Speaker 1: States and start with injury news, because when you've wrapped
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Speaker 1: up the group after two games, what's more important to
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Speaker 1: talk about is the health of Christian Polistic tab Christian
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Speaker 1: Polisick was back in training on Monday. US Soccer are
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Speaker 1: being short with information as is there right. He was
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Speaker 1: with the full team for the first fifteen minutes of training.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he was a full participant in
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Speaker 1: the entire day in training. It seemed that way to me,
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Speaker 1: but I don't know that for sure, because the media
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Speaker 1: gets to be there for fifteen minutes, and if the
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Speaker 1: federation doesn't give you more information, then that's it. So
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Speaker 1: Christian Pools that got to be a full participant in
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Speaker 1: at least that first fifteen minutes of training for the
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Speaker 1: first times and suffering his injury against Paragwhite on June twelfth,
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Speaker 1: So tap, how big of a boost is this for
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Speaker 1: Pools at least if he wasn't a full partimate the
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Speaker 1: whole time, at the very least, this is a step forward.
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Speaker 3: No, it's big.
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Speaker 2: It's big because if you notice in those fifteen minutes
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Speaker 2: which they allowed to press to come in, it's usually
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Speaker 2: it's usually the time where the high performance people are
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Speaker 2: taking care of the team and they're putting them through
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Speaker 2: all of the movements that they're going to be making
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Speaker 2: where they're playing. So they're really activating, you know, as
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Speaker 2: they call it activation, they're activating the players into being
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Speaker 2: ready for the training session, which means Christian was likely
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Speaker 2: doing some jumps, he was doing some side to side,
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Speaker 2: he was doing you know, some you know in and
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Speaker 2: out things and mimicking a lot of the movements that
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Speaker 2: he's going to be making in practice, so I think
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Speaker 2: if he was able to deal with that.
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Speaker 3: Of course is.
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Speaker 2: Different because during training sometimes you have to make movements
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Speaker 2: you're not prepared for and you have to react to things,
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Speaker 2: so it does become a little different.
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Speaker 3: But regardless, I think that's a positive sign.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. So they did do the activations and
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Speaker 1: then and then what we got to see was Rondo's which,
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Speaker 1: by the way, tap the only thing I miss about
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Speaker 1: being in a training session, I think is Rondo's, or
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Speaker 1: at least the most thing I missed. So it's always
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Speaker 1: a joy to watch US Man's national team players do
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Speaker 1: it because those rondos look a whole lot different than
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Speaker 1: anything I've ever participated in anyway. Christian Polisk was part
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Speaker 1: of those rondos. It is fun to watch and he was.
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Speaker 1: He was fully in it. They they they don't they
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Speaker 1: don't risk injury anybody. But there was a moment of
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Speaker 1: last week where somehow the ball popped up and they
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Speaker 1: were trying to get the twentieth pass and I think
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Speaker 1: Matt Freeze and Subagman Perhalter collided mid era like they
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Speaker 1: went full force into an aerial challenge somehow in Rondo's
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Speaker 1: all that is to say that is not a light
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Speaker 1: part of training and if Policic was able to be
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Speaker 1: part of that. One more quick note on the jury front.
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Speaker 1: Christian Rodin is day to day with a muscle strain.
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Speaker 1: That's all we've got. That must have happened on Saturday,
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Speaker 1: the day after the USA played Australia, because he was
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Speaker 1: available for that game against Australia, did not coming off
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Speaker 1: the bench. But that we could talk about later, because
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Speaker 1: first I want to ask, if Christian Polisik is medically
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Speaker 1: cleared to play TAB would you play him at all?
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Speaker 1: Do you think he should play at all?
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Speaker 2: That's a really good question, and I you know, when
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Speaker 2: you're medically cleared and then at that point that means
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Speaker 2: that you can play and you're one hundred percent to play.
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Speaker 2: If that were to be the case, I would play
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Speaker 2: him the last twenty minutes of the game. I would
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Speaker 2: give him a run, but I would likely do it later.
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Speaker 2: I'll see how the game goes, because don't forget you
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Speaker 2: know this game and we're going to talk about it. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: both teams are playing for nothing.
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Speaker 3: But but you.
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Speaker 2: Know, Turkey's playing for pride here and you know we'll
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Speaker 2: talk about their lineup, but I just don't think they're
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Speaker 2: going to walk in to get walked all over. And
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Speaker 2: I think you likely if Christian is not fully one
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Speaker 2: hundred percent not sure that as a coach, I would
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Speaker 2: want to throw him in there at the beginning of
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Speaker 2: this game.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So for me, i'd like, I'm totally good with
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Speaker 1: him not starting, even if the doctors say one hundred
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Speaker 1: percent he's all good. There's no risk of further injury,
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Speaker 1: you know, for him playing, Like right, there's risk of
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Speaker 1: injury whenever you step on the field, but in the
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Speaker 1: sense of this is a risk for your calf. As
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Speaker 1: long as the doctors say that, I would probably say
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Speaker 1: the twenty or thirty minutes at the end of the
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Speaker 1: game two tap, because he played June twelfth, played forty
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Speaker 1: five minutes. That's when he came out at halftime, and
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Speaker 1: he was awesome in those forty five minutes. The round
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Speaker 1: of thirty two is July first, Like, that's a long
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Speaker 1: time to be going between games, and not just sharpness,
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Speaker 1: but also okay, will you be ready to go ninety minutes?
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Speaker 1: Will you be ready to go one twenty if it
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Speaker 1: gets to that. So if he's available to play, I'd
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Speaker 1: play it. I would start him. I wouldn't overdo it,
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Speaker 1: but I'd get him on the field, or want to
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Speaker 1: get him on the field. So that is the big
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Speaker 1: question about this game. Who plays, who plays, how much?
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Speaker 1: What are the combinations? Do you keep some starters? Do
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Speaker 1: you fully rotate? So looking at this game, as we
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Speaker 1: said on the last show, I think four changes are
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Speaker 1: obvious and on are easy and are pretty inarguable. Tap
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Speaker 1: Chris Richards, Anthony Robinson, Flow Baligan, and Tyler Adams. All
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Speaker 1: four of those players are sitting on a yellow card.
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Speaker 1: If they were to pick up a yellow card against
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Speaker 1: Turkey A, they are suspended for the round of thirty two.
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Speaker 1: Flow Balgan is in a golden boot racer, at least
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Speaker 1: on the fringes of it. Now that Messi scored a
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Speaker 1: bunch of goals and soda nipape and so did Holland,
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Speaker 1: But forwards want to play. Forwards want to score. If
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Speaker 1: he wasn't on a yellow card, I would let I
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Speaker 1: would be good with him play, but he is on
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Speaker 1: a yellow card and tab For those four players, I
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Speaker 1: think that it would be naive and dangerous to let
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Speaker 1: them play and risk a yellow card suspension.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think that's the right approach. I think those
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Speaker 2: four players need to need to be out for this
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Speaker 2: game only because it's a smart thing to do. And
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Speaker 2: you add polistic to that. And now you have five
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Speaker 2: different starters from the team. I mean, do you keep
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Speaker 2: the rest of the team the same? I think if
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Speaker 2: everyone's healthy, maybe the rest of the team stays the
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Speaker 2: same because you know, as you mentioned, there's a lot
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Speaker 2: of time in between games and you want to keep
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Speaker 2: the team, You want to keep them fresh, and you
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Speaker 2: want to keep but you do want to keep that
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Speaker 2: intensity going. And so yeah, you have probably five changes
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Speaker 2: on the team for sure. Maybe Poschatino decides to make
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Speaker 2: it six. But I think some of the guys that
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Speaker 2: are in there need to continue to play, need to
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Speaker 2: continue to get better.
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Speaker 3: As far as the.
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Speaker 2: Balligan, you know, scoring race, you know, this is a
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Speaker 2: team sport and this is what's best for the team.
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Speaker 2: And I'm sure you know Flow Baligan would understand that.
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Speaker 2: You know, what's best is that you play the games
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Speaker 2: that matter and if we can help you to get that,
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Speaker 2: to get the you know, the golden boot of the tournament,
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Speaker 2: we would certainly do that.
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Speaker 3: But at this point.
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Speaker 2: The smart thing is for you to be out to
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Speaker 2: that risk you being completely out at the time when
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Speaker 2: we really need so I think that's an easy one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And then to be fair about again
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Speaker 1: speaking to the media on Monday, and he said, yea,
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Speaker 1: I want to play every game the sort of player
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Speaker 1: I am, but it's also important to be smart not
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Speaker 1: pick up yell card and miss around at thirty two.
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Speaker 1: So he gets it, But I wonder if he's angling
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Speaker 1: for no, no, no, just trust me. I promise I won't
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Speaker 1: do anything I can trust. I can trust him, the coaches,
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Speaker 1: I can trust him. It would still be done. You
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Speaker 1: know that I've been joking that's don't give him a jersey.
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Speaker 2: That's a really good point on because you know, this
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Speaker 2: is not about a player being so like Tyler Adams.
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Speaker 2: For example, if Tyler Adams came up, you know, and said, hey, coach,
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Speaker 2: trust me, I'm not going to get a yellow card,
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Speaker 2: I'd still be like, yeah, but you know, at some
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Speaker 2: point you might stick your foot in there and they're
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Speaker 2: gonna get you with a yellow card. Right, So I
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Speaker 2: would be and with Balagan, I would I would completely
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Speaker 2: trust that he would not get a yellow card. However,
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Speaker 2: these you know, sometimes these games that they get into
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Speaker 2: the pushing and shoving, and sometimes you happen to be
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Speaker 2: the third guy who didn't do anything and you end
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Speaker 2: up with a yellow cards you don't deserve, and and
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Speaker 2: Flabalosi could potentially be that guy, and I wouldn't want.
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Speaker 1: To risk that. Yeah, yeah, So I think that one's obvious.
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Speaker 1: Beyond that, tab, I like, I'm still back and forth
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Speaker 1: about how many of the others. So for the four
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Speaker 1: players on yell cards and Polisic, for like, we'll take
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Speaker 1: from the starting line for Paraguay because I think that's
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Speaker 1: their strongest eleven. So if we're talking about from that team,
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Speaker 1: those are five players not starting shouldn't be starting. I
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Speaker 1: think for the other six they should at least be
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Speaker 1: playing off the bench if they're not starting. So whatever
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Speaker 1: the combination is in the eleven and guys I think,
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Speaker 1: like McKinnie and Tillman, I really don't think they should
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Speaker 1: be playing ninety minutes. Same thing. Maybe we're sugenior desk,
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Speaker 1: but whether that's sixty to start thirty off the bench,
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Speaker 1: I'm good either way. So I think that it'll be
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Speaker 1: a very fresh lineup, but probably not maybe not eleven
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Speaker 1: new starters. Honestly, I don't know where do you sit
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Speaker 1: with that?
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Speaker 3: I agree, I would. I would.
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Speaker 2: I would say that I would start the other guys
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Speaker 2: knowing that I have five substitutions, and certainly two will
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Speaker 2: go to uh two will go to McKenny and Tillman
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Speaker 2: and you you also have to worry about death potentially
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Speaker 2: on that side, because he does a lot of running
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Speaker 2: on that side. And yeah, I would, I would worry
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Speaker 2: about that. You know, I think players like Freeman could
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Speaker 2: play the full ninety if you had to play the
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Speaker 2: full ninety. You know, there's certain players that could that
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Speaker 2: could just do it. Just play the game, you know,
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Speaker 2: that's that's what you have to do. But yeah, knowing
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Speaker 2: that you have five substitutions, you could you could potentially
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Speaker 2: start the rest of the guys.
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Speaker 1: So that brings us to Turkey. They are eliminated after
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Speaker 1: two losses to Australia and Paraguay. TAB. What do they have?
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Speaker 1: Sixty one shots and no goals? We talked about they
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Speaker 1: duped us, We got we got caught up in it too. TAB.
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Speaker 1: We said, this team is probably the strongest in the group.
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Speaker 1: You look at the individuals are the three best individual
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Speaker 1: players on Turk, and we forgot tab that they never
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Speaker 1: ever play above the some of their parts. They didn't
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Speaker 1: do that in World Cup either. That's why they needed
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Speaker 1: to go through the playoffs. And in the playoffs they
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Speaker 1: did not look convincing. No matter how many good attacking
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Speaker 1: players they have, they can't score more than a goal
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Speaker 1: maybe two in a game. And then they get to
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Speaker 1: the World Cup and they play two really good defensive teams,
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Speaker 1: including Paraguay who just got thrashed by the United States
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Speaker 1: down Demand for forty five minutes and you would barely
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Speaker 1: know it. I've been extremely disappointed by this team because
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Speaker 1: Artie Goulaer hawk hunts and no glu Keton Yieldez. They're
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Speaker 1: fantastic players, but collectively the team fraudulent in this tournament.
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Speaker 1: So what are their strengths and weaknesses? And I just
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Speaker 1: wanted to offer up apologie because I was wrong for
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Speaker 1: overrating them.
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Speaker 3: I you know, I think fraudulent.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's hard to give you a pass
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Speaker 2: with that word because it's just, you know, it's kind
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Speaker 2: of hard.
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Speaker 3: It's hard.
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Speaker 2: But I think you're right, Tom, I think you're right,
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Speaker 2: you know, like I I you know, they had sixty
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Speaker 2: two shots in the two games in zero goals. You know,
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Speaker 2: I'm and I'm not a stats person, but seeing our
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Speaker 2: team and how much we attacked and how we were
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Speaker 2: on the front foot the whole time, we had one
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Speaker 2: hundred and forty final third entries in the two games.
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Speaker 3: Turkey had two hundred and eleven. I mean, this team
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Speaker 3: somehow figured out how to attack and do nothing with it.
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Speaker 2: I just it's hard to understand, you know, I watch,
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Speaker 2: and I watch a lot actually, so I know, obviously
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Speaker 2: Challanoglu really well. You know, we all know him really
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Speaker 2: well and what he can do. And in particular, I've
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Speaker 2: watched Arti Gooler play almost every game that he played
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Speaker 2: for Real Madrid this year, and I've seen some of
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Speaker 2: the things he can do. I mean, he he, He
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Speaker 2: did not do anything for this team, tom He just
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Speaker 2: hangs around the middle of the field and makes some passes,
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Speaker 2: nothing that really creates a lot for them. I just
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Speaker 2: I'm really disappointed. So I'll just, you know, I'll just
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Speaker 2: go for you know, with all the thing, without taking
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Speaker 2: too much time with Turkey, because at the end of
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Speaker 2: the day, this is a meaningless game that we have
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Speaker 2: to play. But I'll give you a lineup just in general.
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Speaker 2: They've been playing with Katchiu Chakhir and goal. They've been
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Speaker 2: playing with Muldeur, Demrole, Bardacci and Kaddioglu across the back,
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Speaker 2: Yu Sik and Chattanoglu in the middle, with akkun Ghula
16:19
Speaker 2: a little bit to the right yield he's on the left,
16:22
Speaker 2: and actor Toklu up top. Now for what I'm from,
16:26
Speaker 2: what I'm hearing a little bit, you know in Turkey
16:29
Speaker 2: and I and I work for Beshiktas for a little while,
16:31
Speaker 2: so I kind of I kind of know the deal.
16:33
Speaker 2: You know, Turkey is a very in there there. It's
16:36
Speaker 2: a very difficult place where there's a ton of pressure.
16:39
Speaker 2: So people already talking in Turkey about not even getting up.
16:42
Speaker 2: The game is at four o'clock in the morning. They're
16:44
Speaker 2: saying they're not they're not even getting up to watch
16:46
Speaker 2: this game. That that's what people are talking about. They're
16:49
Speaker 2: not getting up to watch this game. They're talking about
16:53
Speaker 2: the coach and not having included some veteran players in
16:56
Speaker 2: the lineup like Cabbage in the back, Akin in the back.
17:01
Speaker 2: They're likely going to go with the Manchester United goalkeeper
17:04
Speaker 2: buying Deer for this game rather than uh Shakir who's
17:08
Speaker 2: been playing. There's a chance they change they outside back
17:11
Speaker 2: and go with Elmalley from Galatasarai. There's there's a and
17:15
Speaker 2: then two younger guys up top, potentially Google that plays
17:18
Speaker 2: for Porto and Ozoan at Frankfurt. They may switch and
17:22
Speaker 2: go with both of them up top. So there's a
17:24
Speaker 2: lot of things in terms of what can happen. But
17:27
Speaker 2: I know that one thing that's going to happen is
17:29
Speaker 2: likely that Montela is not going to continue with this
17:31
Speaker 2: team after this game. So so so you know, we
17:35
Speaker 2: can go into more of the specifics of this team.
17:38
Speaker 2: They're very good. They're very good on possession, you know,
17:41
Speaker 2: they do. They have good players, they take control of
17:44
Speaker 2: the games. You know, they could cause problems for us because,
17:47
Speaker 2: as I mentioned before on this podcast, in particular, we
17:52
Speaker 2: will struggle with teams that can connect passes quickly and
17:55
Speaker 2: break our press.
17:56
Speaker 3: We will struggle with those we haven't met them.
17:59
Speaker 2: I have a feeling, because Turkey may make so many
18:01
Speaker 2: changes in this particular game, that they're not going to
18:05
Speaker 2: be the team that we thought they were going to be.
18:08
Speaker 2: And so because of that, I just don't see a
18:11
Speaker 2: way in which they can break through and and.
18:14
Speaker 3: And really hurt us in this game.
18:16
Speaker 2: Now having said that, game will be completely totally competitive
18:20
Speaker 2: because they certainly don't want to lose this game. They
18:23
Speaker 2: want to go home with something, because this has.
18:25
Speaker 3: Already been a borderline. I don't know if it's borderline.
18:29
Speaker 2: This has already been embarrassing enough for them to go
18:32
Speaker 2: back home knowing that they lost to two teams that
18:34
Speaker 2: they should.
18:35
Speaker 1: Have beaten, right, And I think that, particularly if they
18:39
Speaker 1: do make all the changes that you're hearing that they'll
18:42
Speaker 1: make in the lineup, there will probably be a lot
18:44
Speaker 1: of younger guys and a lot of guys who are
18:46
Speaker 1: going to be trying to play with pride first and foremost,
18:51
Speaker 1: but also whoever's going to be the next coach. Hey
18:54
Speaker 1: we should have been playing like they're going to want
18:57
Speaker 1: to leave their mark, and they're gonna want to again
18:58
Speaker 1: for themselves, for the cun but also for the future
19:01
Speaker 1: of like, hey man, yeah, it's our time. Now, this
19:04
Speaker 1: tournament sucked, Let's move on to the future. Which is
19:06
Speaker 1: a wild thing to say in the third, third game
19:08
Speaker 1: of a tournament for this team that again has so
19:10
Speaker 1: many good individuals, but I don't know what's expect in
19:13
Speaker 1: terms of the personnel, but I do think that they'll
19:17
Speaker 1: they'll play with pride, particularly if they are changing the
19:19
Speaker 1: team and you look at the US, I don't care
19:22
Speaker 1: if it's eleven changes. They're gonna be intense. Because we've
19:26
Speaker 1: talked about it with Tim Lea. You see every time
19:29
Speaker 1: he comes in, he's playing with a fire that like,
19:31
Speaker 1: I want to show that, how what can I do
19:33
Speaker 1: to earn minutes? I'm gonna go balls to the wall
19:36
Speaker 1: ten out of ten for these fifteen minutes that I'm
19:38
Speaker 1: playing in this friendly, or these five minutes I'm playing
19:40
Speaker 1: off the bench, or whatever the timelines are. And I
19:43
Speaker 1: think that you'll see that whether it's Haji Wright or
19:45
Speaker 1: Brendan Aronson or Subasionburghalter or Max Orfson, and you go
19:48
Speaker 1: on down list, like whether they're disjointed a little bit,
19:52
Speaker 1: whether they have a little bit less top end quality
19:54
Speaker 1: than maybe the starting group, those two things are fair.
19:58
Speaker 1: I don't think that there is gonna be any questions
20:00
Speaker 1: to the intensity from the United States as well. So
20:03
Speaker 1: this will be an interesting one. It'll be nice for
20:05
Speaker 1: some guys that maybe weren't gonna PLAYZ and Dejas was
20:08
Speaker 1: talking to media talking about I'm just doing my best
20:10
Speaker 1: in training and I hope I get a chance. This
20:12
Speaker 1: is a dream. But you know, obviously I don't want
20:14
Speaker 1: to just be here to watch from the bench. I
20:16
Speaker 1: want to play right in the most respectful way. So
20:18
Speaker 1: it'll be cool for some of those guys hopefully to
20:20
Speaker 1: get the opportunity, but it won't change where the US
20:23
Speaker 1: are going. They finish their group stage against cir K
20:26
Speaker 1: and then July first round of thirty two in San Francisco.
20:29
Speaker 1: That's what we've got to look forward to. But it's
20:31
Speaker 1: time for a quick break up. Next, Tab gives us
20:33
Speaker 1: the inside story of the nineteen ninety fourteen as they
20:36
Speaker 1: face Brazil and the Round of sixteen. Please rate, review,
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Speaker 1: and subscribe to Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogan and
20:41
Speaker 1: Tab Ramos wherever you get your bike us. Welcome back
20:53
Speaker 1: to Inside American Soccer. It's time to go inside the
20:55
Speaker 1: locker room with Tab tab. One of the most memorable
21:01
Speaker 1: and sad and frustrating injuries or moments for fans was
21:05
Speaker 1: this nineteen ninety four knock round game against Brazil fourth
21:09
Speaker 1: of July. Leonardo, Brazilian defender off the ball through a
21:15
Speaker 1: wicked elbow at your head, fractured skull, red card. Let
21:21
Speaker 1: you take it away for however you want to set
21:24
Speaker 1: this up to bring us inside that day.
21:26
Speaker 2: Okay, so if we if if we were gonna go,
21:29
Speaker 2: let's go right to the incident first.
21:31
Speaker 3: If we're gonna go through the incident.
21:32
Speaker 2: I you know, in all fairness, I did try to
21:34
Speaker 2: meg uh Leonardo with a back heel. So if you
21:37
Speaker 2: watch the play, I pulled the ball and I and
21:40
Speaker 2: I went for the meg with a bacule and and
21:42
Speaker 2: and I almost got it. Actually it just it got
21:45
Speaker 2: stuck between his legs. You had it, Yeah, yeah, it was.
21:48
Speaker 1: It was.
21:48
Speaker 2: It was three quarters through and uh, but it got
21:52
Speaker 2: stuck between his legs. And as it got stuck, I
21:55
Speaker 2: pulled his shirt a little, and as I pulled his shirt,
21:57
Speaker 2: he threw.
21:58
Speaker 3: He threw the elbow. So yeah, it happens.
22:01
Speaker 2: No, but you know, going back to the most important
22:03
Speaker 2: part here, going back to the most important part, I
22:07
Speaker 2: think you know, it was a great day, Tom, It
22:10
Speaker 2: was a great day.
22:11
Speaker 3: You know.
22:11
Speaker 2: We had we had just finished playing in a tough group. Obviously,
22:14
Speaker 2: we had two European teams and the South American team.
22:17
Speaker 2: And of course we had knocked out Columbia. We ended up,
22:21
Speaker 2: I think in third as a best third because it
22:23
Speaker 2: was a twenty four team World Cup that year, so
22:27
Speaker 2: there was a few thirds that went through and we
22:30
Speaker 2: drew Brazil, and of course, you know, I you know,
22:33
Speaker 2: I even remember, you know, I even remember saying to
22:38
Speaker 2: a reporter and Bora got really mad at me because
22:41
Speaker 2: I said to a report at one point, it's kind
22:42
Speaker 2: of like, you know, we got Brazil. You know, it's
22:45
Speaker 2: kind of like either jumping off a bridge or jumping
22:48
Speaker 2: off a building. You know, it's kind of you know,
22:50
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be easy. And Bora I got upset because,
22:53
Speaker 2: you know, Bora, I thought, you know, we're gonna beat
22:55
Speaker 2: everybody and we're gonna win the World Cup. And of course,
22:57
Speaker 2: you know, you're the coach and that's how you think.
22:59
Speaker 2: And as players, of course you're going to win the
23:00
Speaker 2: game anyway. But it was it was a big day.
23:03
Speaker 2: I remember, it was a beautiful day in northern California.
23:06
Speaker 2: We played in Palo Alto at at the Stanford Stadium,
23:10
Speaker 2: which by the way, I didn't like because I didn't
23:12
Speaker 2: like stadiums with tracks around them because you're so far
23:15
Speaker 2: from the fans and it sucks.
23:16
Speaker 3: Yeah.
23:17
Speaker 2: So although there was you know, it was eighty five
23:19
Speaker 2: thousand people and it was going to be packed. You know,
23:22
Speaker 2: people were talking about how this game was going to
23:24
Speaker 2: break old the old time you know TV viewership, which
23:28
Speaker 2: it ended up doing because I think there was like
23:30
Speaker 2: eleven million viewers and at the time at the time
23:34
Speaker 2: with a population of almost one hundred million less than now,
23:37
Speaker 2: you know, like it's a it was a significant amount
23:39
Speaker 2: of people watching the game for the time. So it
23:42
Speaker 2: was it was it was July fourth, it's Independence Day.
23:45
Speaker 2: It was like it was almost like the whole thing.
23:47
Speaker 2: It was almost like a setup for us to win
23:49
Speaker 2: this game and be like the Cinderella story you know
23:52
Speaker 2: of old time. But you know, it was obviously, you know,
23:57
Speaker 2: difficult game. I remember for what I I'll just go.
24:01
Speaker 3: Through what I remember of the game. So I do
24:03
Speaker 3: remember that the game.
24:04
Speaker 2: Although Brazil was known obviously for playing well, this was
24:08
Speaker 2: a very strong defensive Brazilian team. You know, they had
24:12
Speaker 2: they had doom Gun in the middle of the field.
24:14
Speaker 2: They had Moro Silva in the middle of the field.
24:16
Speaker 2: And these were two like like Stalworth like defensive mids.
24:21
Speaker 2: Who were like great defensive mids, and they both played
24:24
Speaker 2: together and nothing can get through them. And I remember
24:27
Speaker 2: the beginning of the game being very physical. I know,
24:30
Speaker 2: I got tackled pretty hard by doone got down the
24:33
Speaker 2: sideline as I was trying to get across in and
24:37
Speaker 2: then you know, there was a couple of yellow cards
24:40
Speaker 2: already given in the game. And then about around the
24:42
Speaker 2: fortieth minute of the game forty first minutes something like that,
24:45
Speaker 2: I do dribble up I think I received the ball,
24:49
Speaker 2: and Leonardo comes on my back right away, tries the
24:52
Speaker 2: pressure and I do, and I pull the ball back
24:55
Speaker 2: and I and I do like a sideways back heel
24:58
Speaker 2: to try to meg him to get up the line,
25:01
Speaker 2: and I almost had him, but the ball got stuck
25:04
Speaker 2: between his legs and it got stuck.
25:06
Speaker 3: Obviously, I pulled the shirt and he threw.
25:08
Speaker 2: His elbow, and then that that cracked my skull.
25:12
Speaker 3: Obviously, Leonardo got red carded.
25:15
Speaker 2: I immediately got you know, uh uh, taken into into
25:19
Speaker 2: the locker room and we played with ten.
25:21
Speaker 3: We played ten against ten for the rest of that half.
25:24
Speaker 2: When we came in at half, obviously the doctors are
25:26
Speaker 2: all around me, they're getting ready to send me to
25:28
Speaker 2: the hospital and uh, and I remember Bora comes in
25:31
Speaker 2: and asks me if I could play the second half.
25:34
Speaker 1: So he didn't.
25:40
Speaker 2: So he didn't want to make He didn't want to
25:42
Speaker 2: make the substitution, you know, so we played with you know,
25:47
Speaker 2: like with ten ten last five minutes because he thought, hey,
25:50
Speaker 2: maybe he's gonna come back in the second half.
25:53
Speaker 1: So that was the tip. I was looking at the
25:57
Speaker 1: like match sheet from that day and it listed the
26:00
Speaker 1: substitute as a forty six minute and I said that
26:02
Speaker 1: has to be wrong. So he was waiting to see.
26:06
Speaker 1: Oh my god, So did you These are probably dumb questions.
26:12
Speaker 1: Did you know immediately upon impact you were in trouble?
26:17
Speaker 2: I was, yeah, because as soon as I went down,
26:20
Speaker 2: I couldn't you know how you see on the video
26:23
Speaker 2: if you watch the video. I've seen it a few times,
26:25
Speaker 2: but when you watch the video, I'm like shaking and
26:27
Speaker 2: moving my arms and I couldn't feel any like that.
26:30
Speaker 3: That was totally not me.
26:31
Speaker 2: That was, oh my god, it was uncontrollable movement that
26:35
Speaker 2: I could I The only thing I was conscious of
26:39
Speaker 2: was that it was I felt I felt like the
26:42
Speaker 2: sound of like almost like a train hitting me. Like
26:45
Speaker 2: a like this boom in my head. That's the only
26:47
Speaker 2: thing I remember of that being very loud and hearing
26:51
Speaker 2: a loud noise. I don't I don't really remember anything else.
26:54
Speaker 2: And and most of the rest I do recall Bora
26:57
Speaker 2: coming to ask me. But then a lot of people
27:00
Speaker 2: have also told me do you remember that? So then
27:02
Speaker 2: so then you start to remember things according to what
27:05
Speaker 2: people tell you, you know, so, but I don't remember
27:08
Speaker 2: anything else. A matter of fact, I didn't. I didn't
27:11
Speaker 2: even know we lost the game. You know, that was
27:13
Speaker 2: an afternoon game in Palo Alto and I and I
27:16
Speaker 2: remember finding out that we lost the game.
27:20
Speaker 3: It was nighttime when I found out.
27:22
Speaker 2: I was in the hospital at some point and then
27:24
Speaker 2: I finally asked someone.
27:26
Speaker 3: But you know, it might have been my wife. I
27:28
Speaker 3: don't know who I asked.
27:29
Speaker 2: But by the way, we played a game today, what happened,
27:33
Speaker 2: you know, like who won? And uh, and so that's
27:37
Speaker 2: when they told me we lost one zero and so yeah,
27:43
Speaker 2: but you know, to be fair, you know, Leonardo and
27:46
Speaker 2: and I think the president or vice president of the
27:48
Speaker 2: Brazilian Federation came to the hospital to see me, which
27:52
Speaker 2: I thought was a really nice gesture, you know, because
27:55
Speaker 2: in the end, I don't I don't blame Leonardo, you know.
27:58
Speaker 2: I I've lost my head in the game too. You know,
28:00
Speaker 2: sometimes when you're competitive, you do stupid things, and you know,
28:04
Speaker 2: he threw an elbow and it was a stupid thing
28:06
Speaker 2: to do. But I'm sure he didn't mean it. You know,
28:09
Speaker 2: he doesn't, you know, So so I thought it was
28:11
Speaker 2: a nice gesture for because sometimes you do you can
28:14
Speaker 2: get a note from a player. But he actually drove
28:16
Speaker 2: to the hospital and went to see so I was
28:18
Speaker 2: I thought that was a nice gesture.
28:21
Speaker 3: So for me it was forgotten.
28:23
Speaker 1: I'm like again and looking back deeps, that's really again,
28:28
Speaker 1: that speaks to who you are as a person. I
28:31
Speaker 1: was finding myself getting angry at I didn't mean I
28:35
Speaker 1: didn't mean it, or it was an accident, And I'm
28:38
Speaker 1: sure it was an accident to the extent of the injury.
28:41
Speaker 1: But he looks around you and like winds up like
28:44
Speaker 1: that wasn't a soccer play, Like even if if he
28:47
Speaker 1: hit you in the chest, he should have gotten a
28:49
Speaker 1: sent off, Like even if you were able to get
28:51
Speaker 1: back up and keep go going. But like reading again
28:54
Speaker 1: from you telling me what he said to you, and immediately,
28:57
Speaker 1: like the first time is he's speaking to the media,
28:59
Speaker 1: the saying things, It's like, I'm devastated. You know, it
29:01
Speaker 1: looked intentional, like I promise you what like it's it's
29:06
Speaker 1: tough that, like you said, nobody necessarily meant for that
29:09
Speaker 1: to happen.
29:10
Speaker 2: But and then the repercussions for me right personally, because
29:14
Speaker 2: you know then you know, for example, I I I
29:17
Speaker 2: couldn't get on a plane right away, so I had
29:19
Speaker 2: to wait a few days before I could return to
29:21
Speaker 2: our home base in southern California.
29:25
Speaker 3: I think we were at data point there, so I
29:28
Speaker 3: had to wait.
29:29
Speaker 2: And then I had to wait about another week before
29:30
Speaker 2: I could get on a plane to fly to the
29:32
Speaker 2: East coast.
29:33
Speaker 3: Uh.
29:33
Speaker 2: And then don't forget, I mean, I'm also a player
29:36
Speaker 2: for Betty's, so I have to go back to ral
29:38
Speaker 2: Betty's and and I have to fly you fly across
29:41
Speaker 2: the ocean. So it took a couple of weeks for
29:43
Speaker 2: me to be able to do that. And you know,
29:46
Speaker 2: now I was starting to miss the beginning of pre
29:48
Speaker 2: season with the team, which you know was not the
29:53
Speaker 2: biggest deal because I still had recovery in the meantime,
29:56
Speaker 2: while I was in New York, I saw the I
29:59
Speaker 2: saw the doctor for the Olympic boxing team because he
30:02
Speaker 2: was an expert on these type of injuries obviously. Yeah,
30:05
Speaker 2: and so he saw me and he said, look, if
30:07
Speaker 2: you were a boxer, I would never let you box again.
30:09
Speaker 2: If you if you get hit in the head hard again, Uh,
30:13
Speaker 2: I don't know what can happen. You may not walk,
30:15
Speaker 2: you may not talk. And at that time I had
30:18
Speaker 2: to think about, you know, potentially retiring from the game because, uh,
30:21
Speaker 2: you know, getting hit in the head one more time.
30:24
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a short player, so you know, it
30:26
Speaker 2: happened sometimes, you know, you do. I've had, you know,
30:29
Speaker 2: my teeth broken in the past, I've had my nose broken.
30:31
Speaker 2: You know I had you know, you get those type
30:33
Speaker 2: of injuries just because you get into challenges and you're
30:35
Speaker 2: shorter and you have your elbows. So yeah, it was
30:39
Speaker 2: it was actually very big decisions to make at the time.
30:43
Speaker 2: But still, you know, I was going to be out
30:45
Speaker 2: for the next four months. I Betty's decided not to
30:49
Speaker 2: put me on the roster in the in the fall
30:51
Speaker 2: in La Liga, and by the time December rolled around,
30:55
Speaker 2: I played it friendly against Athletico Madrid with Betty's and
30:58
Speaker 2: that's incredible.
30:59
Speaker 3: And then I talked to the coach, and the coach.
31:01
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, obviously I wanted to play at the time,
31:04
Speaker 2: which looking back, maybe I should have been more patient
31:06
Speaker 2: and said, hey, you know what, I'll sit on the
31:08
Speaker 2: bench the second half of the season. But I really
31:10
Speaker 2: wanted to go somewhere and play right away, and so
31:13
Speaker 2: I played. FIFA invited me to the World All Star
31:16
Speaker 2: Game at the at the end of that year, and
31:18
Speaker 2: I played against Milan in in Milan and we beat
31:23
Speaker 2: We beat Milan three to two ac Milan at sant
31:27
Speaker 2: Zero and I scored the third goal on a pass
31:31
Speaker 2: from Risto storagegove storagegovee across the ball and I and
31:35
Speaker 2: I went inside the box and I and I met
31:37
Speaker 2: I think it was Rossy the goalkeeper for the.
31:39
Speaker 3: Goal, and uh.
31:40
Speaker 2: And from there, I, you know, I just you know,
31:43
Speaker 2: there's agents everywhere or whatever, so I had I got.
31:45
Speaker 2: I ended up with two offers, one offer from New
31:48
Speaker 2: Chatel in Switzerland and one from Tigres in Mexico. And
31:51
Speaker 2: that's when I decided to make my move to Tigris.
31:53
Speaker 2: So that's that's sort of I spent four months without
31:56
Speaker 2: playing and then I left to Mexico. That's that's what
31:59
Speaker 2: sort of ended up happening, what came out of my
32:01
Speaker 2: injury in the nineteen ninety four World Cup.
32:05
Speaker 1: Tap, I cannot believe you came back in four months.
32:09
Speaker 1: I can't believe that between that and your ACL you
32:13
Speaker 1: came back in like six months or something. Inhuman It's
32:16
Speaker 1: that's crazy.
32:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was for the ninety eight World Cup.
32:19
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then after that nineteen ninety four World Cup, really
32:23
Speaker 2: I played for Tigris and then I came into MLS
32:25
Speaker 2: and then I started to get injured a lot more often.
32:27
Speaker 2: You know, I was starting to get close to BM
32:30
Speaker 2: thirty and I started to go downhill from there.
32:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It wasn't great after that.
32:37
Speaker 1: Well, you're a goddamn warrior and wow, that that is
32:41
Speaker 1: one of the sad, sad days in American soccer history.
32:44
Speaker 1: I'm glad. Unsurprising knowing you, but glad, glad everything worked
32:49
Speaker 1: out positively and the way that you view this so
32:51
Speaker 1: it's always inspiring. Appreciate you, Tap, Thank you for talking
32:54
Speaker 1: about that awkward transition, because it's time for one more break.
32:57
Speaker 1: Next up, TAP's gonna give his picks for this week's
33:00
Speaker 1: biggest matches, and we look ahead to the most likely scenarios,
33:03
Speaker 1: the massive knockout round matchup for the United States. Coming
33:05
Speaker 1: on to life first. Thank you for listening to Inside
33:08
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33:21
Speaker 1: It's time for our prediction segment. Let's look at some
33:23
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33:31
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33:33
Speaker 1: a neutral soccer fan, because we're keeping a close eye
33:36
Speaker 1: on Group B Wednesday, because I don't know the exact permutations,
33:40
Speaker 1: but it looks like the winner of Bosi and Guitar,
33:43
Speaker 1: if there is a winner, would be the US opponent
33:46
Speaker 1: for the round of thirty two. It's a lot of
33:48
Speaker 1: different things to happen, but BOSSI are playing guitar in
33:50
Speaker 1: the third game of that group stage. According to the
33:54
Speaker 1: Athletics simulator, they say that there's a fifty eight percent
33:57
Speaker 1: chance likelihood that Bosnia would be the States round a
34:00
Speaker 1: thirty two oponent and eighteen percent that it would be Guitar.
34:03
Speaker 1: So Tab, what is your pick for this game?
34:08
Speaker 2: Well, Tom, you know, I always get really excited about
34:10
Speaker 2: my DraftKings picks because it makes me do a little
34:13
Speaker 2: bit more homework, you know, and I enjoy it. I
34:15
Speaker 2: enjoy looking at teams that sometimes I don't necessarily have
34:18
Speaker 2: to obviously always following the US team, obviously following the
34:23
Speaker 2: teams that play the US. And then on top of it,
34:25
Speaker 2: you know, obviously I work for TV, so I have
34:27
Speaker 2: to follow all the teams that I that I cover.
34:30
Speaker 2: In this case, I guess we can call this the
34:34
Speaker 2: sweep stakes to play the US game here.
34:38
Speaker 3: Potentially this is what's going to happen. But I tell you, I.
34:43
Speaker 2: Watched both teams a lot, actually, and I feel like
34:46
Speaker 2: I know both Bosnia and Guitar really well. I just
34:49
Speaker 2: don't see where Guitar is going to have enough to
34:52
Speaker 2: beat Bosnia. You know, the Bosnia has really strong defensively.
34:56
Speaker 2: They don't care for attacking much, but they do. They
35:01
Speaker 2: do defend well in Qatar. You know, after take in
35:03
Speaker 2: two red cards the last game, the last game was
35:07
Speaker 2: a mess.
35:07
Speaker 3: You know, you come off as six year old loss.
35:09
Speaker 2: I think it's it's just tough to recover from that.
35:12
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing Katar being able to win this game.
35:15
Speaker 2: I would say my Draftkinks pick is Bosnia to guitar one.
35:22
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I watched Quitar first. Canada was
35:26
Speaker 1: in the building for that game. Quitar got blown off
35:30
Speaker 1: the pitch like it was not was not close before
35:32
Speaker 1: the red cards. They would have lost that game for nothing.
35:35
Speaker 1: Probably even if they ended up with eleven men. And
35:40
Speaker 1: this is a continuation. In twenty twenty two, they had
35:42
Speaker 1: zero points in the group stage. I believe they have
35:45
Speaker 1: one right now. So Bosia I would also put as
35:47
Speaker 1: a favorite. But tab we're gonna dive into whenever we
35:51
Speaker 1: know who the opponent is, of course, but if it
35:54
Speaker 1: is one of Bosnia guitar, who would be the better matchup?
35:58
Speaker 2: Well, I think the better matchup for us would be guitar,
36:01
Speaker 2: no question. I think anytime you can avoid playing the
36:03
Speaker 2: European team.
36:05
Speaker 3: You want to do that.
36:06
Speaker 2: You know, you have to remember European teams have experienced
36:09
Speaker 2: players who play and accomplish leagues and who are used
36:12
Speaker 2: to playing tough games day day in and day out.
36:15
Speaker 2: And of course this Bosnia team doesn't have, you know,
36:18
Speaker 2: the talent of other European teams.
36:20
Speaker 3: They're on the lower end of the European teams.
36:22
Speaker 2: But I if I could avoid Bosnia, I would say
36:24
Speaker 2: Guitar is a better matchup for US.
36:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't know. I find it unlikely
36:30
Speaker 1: that that'll happen, But I think either way, the United States,
36:33
Speaker 1: it's either of these teams would be content with that
36:36
Speaker 1: and not being disrespectful. But you know, some of the
36:39
Speaker 1: other options seem to be like Senegal or Ecuador. The
36:42
Speaker 1: Ecuador has not played very well, Algeria like those are
36:45
Speaker 1: kind of the lesser likely opponents, and there are no
36:48
Speaker 1: easy games in a knockout stage. But Bosio wouldn't be
36:52
Speaker 1: the worst info in the world. But we're going to
36:54
Speaker 1: get there. When we get there, a lot of soccer
36:56
Speaker 1: left to go between them, including the other match in
36:59
Speaker 1: that group beat is Canada's Switzerland. The winner wins the
37:02
Speaker 1: group tap, and I believe if Canada draw, they win
37:04
Speaker 1: the group because of goal difference, because of the beating
37:06
Speaker 1: that they put on guitar. So Canada Switzerland, what's your
37:09
Speaker 1: draft beings pick?
37:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a really interesting matchup, and I think
37:13
Speaker 2: the fact that Canada could use the draw will likely
37:18
Speaker 2: force them to be a little bit more conservative than
37:20
Speaker 2: they've been in the other games. You know, Canada is
37:24
Speaker 2: a good team. They certainly up top. You know, now
37:26
Speaker 2: if they play, if they played Laren and Jonathan David
37:30
Speaker 2: again together, which I think they should, they're really a
37:33
Speaker 2: dangerous team up top. I'm not sure if Jesse Marsh
37:36
Speaker 2: decides to go with both of those guys at the
37:38
Speaker 2: same time. Again, because in the end, you're playing a
37:41
Speaker 2: team that's better than you are. This Switzerland team is
37:43
Speaker 2: better than Canada, and I think Canada will have a
37:47
Speaker 2: tough time with that. You know, it's a strong this is.
37:49
Speaker 2: This is not one of the lower level European teams.
37:52
Speaker 2: This is I think Switzerland's a strong, legitimate European team.
37:55
Speaker 2: And I and and although I think Canada will make
37:58
Speaker 2: this a game and will keep it close, my Draftkinks
38:02
Speaker 2: pick for this game is Canada zero.
38:04
Speaker 3: Switzerland won.
38:08
Speaker 1: That would be a very fitting a Swiss result. Switzerland
38:11
Speaker 1: beat the United States for nothing last summer, so they
38:14
Speaker 1: are quite a very strong opponent, even though this very
38:16
Speaker 1: surprisingly drew guitar all right. The other matchup in Group
38:20
Speaker 1: D the United States is Group The other matchup is
38:23
Speaker 1: Paraguay FORRSUS Australia. The winner will get second to the
38:25
Speaker 1: group and Australia get second with the draw, and both
38:28
Speaker 1: probably advanced with a draw. So you got to consider
38:30
Speaker 1: that when looking at this game. So tab, what are
38:33
Speaker 1: you looking at for this one?
38:36
Speaker 2: Who would have thought Paraguay would be fighting for second
38:40
Speaker 2: place going into this third game after watching them play
38:43
Speaker 2: the US in that first game?
38:44
Speaker 3: I would have never imagined that.
38:47
Speaker 2: Having said that, there's somehow, you know, back in the
38:49
Speaker 2: picture they gave up you know, thirty two shots against
38:52
Speaker 2: Turkey but managed to not get scored on.
38:56
Speaker 3: And here they are now.
38:58
Speaker 2: The fact that both these teams can go through with
39:01
Speaker 2: a tie, which is you know, highly likely, forces me
39:05
Speaker 2: to think that this game is likely going to be
39:08
Speaker 2: a tie. If I if you know, if I had
39:11
Speaker 2: a pick, and obviously I do have to pick, and
39:13
Speaker 2: after seeing both teams play, I'm gonna say my Draftkinks
39:18
Speaker 2: pick for this game would be Paraguay one, Australia one
39:22
Speaker 2: and and I wanted to pick zero zero actually, but
39:25
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with a one one.
39:27
Speaker 1: No, but they're up people looking too closely that I
39:30
Speaker 1: also to be fair, like, this is a game that
39:32
Speaker 1: could have been a draw if this was the opening
39:34
Speaker 1: group stage game. Like, I think that both of these
39:35
Speaker 1: teams can hurt the other in different ways. Both of
39:39
Speaker 1: them make their bones on we're really strong defensively and
39:41
Speaker 1: we're really competitive, right, Like, they can do other things
39:43
Speaker 1: in that, but that is what their best power is.
39:45
Speaker 1: So this does and knowing that a draw basically gets
39:49
Speaker 1: both teams through, I don't think there will be too
39:51
Speaker 1: much dying to win at the end. If if it's
39:54
Speaker 1: one one in the eightieth minute, I think that's where
39:55
Speaker 1: it's gonna end. But this this segment is presented by
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Speaker 1: one up and the DraftKings odds for the US's final
40:03
Speaker 1: Group sage game on Thursday night against Turkey, a US
40:07
Speaker 1: M and T is minus one oh eight, the draw
40:09
Speaker 1: is plus three fifty five. Turkey eight is plus two
40:12
Speaker 1: seventy tab. What is your pick for this game?
40:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this will be, uh, it would be.
40:18
Speaker 2: It's going to be an interesting start to this game
40:21
Speaker 2: because we're going to try to figure out you know,
40:23
Speaker 2: obviously Turkey potentially make some changes, US is going to
40:26
Speaker 2: make some changes. This game will definitely be a much
40:29
Speaker 2: different game than had Turkey won the last one, because
40:32
Speaker 2: we'd be looking at our best team against their best team,
40:35
Speaker 2: and now we can analyze.
40:37
Speaker 3: A little bit better.
40:38
Speaker 2: I think because of what we're gonna see, it's it's
40:41
Speaker 2: hard to determine what's going to happen in this game.
40:43
Speaker 2: But I just think that US has too much firepower,
40:47
Speaker 2: you know, in the Turkish team, although they if they
40:51
Speaker 2: make a lot of changes, they'll they'll They're almost starting
40:54
Speaker 2: over and in the middle of a World Cup, and
40:56
Speaker 2: I think our team has too much confidence for that.
40:59
Speaker 2: And my Draftkinks pick for this game will be US
41:03
Speaker 2: two Turkey zero.
41:07
Speaker 1: I like that. I think I'm aligned with you on
41:09
Speaker 1: that because again, even if they change eleven starters like
41:13
Speaker 1: a front three or whether way it plays a wing,
41:16
Speaker 1: but if like I'm thinking of a scenario where you know,
41:18
Speaker 1: way Haiji, right, Brendon Erinson and Ricardo Peppe and Max
41:23
Speaker 1: Orfson are the five in attacking possession, like no, none
41:27
Speaker 1: of them have started yet or other than Peppy for
41:29
Speaker 1: one game, but all of them are really good, right like,
41:33
Speaker 1: just because they're not started, so I don't have any worries.
41:35
Speaker 1: I don't think about the US and second group. But tap,
41:38
Speaker 1: I'm looking very much forward to that game. We're gonna
41:41
Speaker 1: be back after that game to break it down everything
41:44
Speaker 1: that happened. We'll see what the performances were like, who
41:46
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41:48
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