Latest / The Steelers Report / HR 1: Browns 27, Steelers 24 Week 4 Game Recap
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Here's the snap. Here's the boot by Smith.
- 0:10Speaker 2: That kick is up, and that kick.
- 0:14Speaker 3: Is good by Andre Smith.
- 0:16Speaker 4: And with 10.
- 0:17Speaker 3: Seconds remaining, the Cleveland Browns have taken a 27-24 lead.
- 0:24Speaker 5: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Batko and Ed
- 0:28Speaker 5: Troup on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 0:31Speaker 5: Audio Network.
- 0:33Speaker 6: Tied at 24, a minute and 42 seconds left, and
- 0:37Speaker 6: all the momentum in the world. Then the biggest moment
- 0:40Speaker 6: of the night, the Steelers' defense disappeared again. Cleveland marched
- 0:45Speaker 6: 36 yards and seven plays, setting up that, what you
- 0:48Speaker 6: just heard, 56-yard field goal with just 10 seconds left.
- 0:53Speaker 6: And Double B, another Thursday night loss. And now at 2-2,
- 0:57Speaker 6: the Steelers have some questions that need answers, but the
- 1:00Speaker 6: good news is they now have 10 days to figure
- 1:03Speaker 6: all of this out.
- 1:04Speaker 2: I don't even want to know the updated records and
- 1:07Speaker 2: statistics now, whether it's Thursday nights or in Cleveland, divisional
- 1:14Speaker 2: road game Thursday nights. It's miserable. I just said it
- 1:21Speaker 2: earlier today, stepped in for a segment on the Blitz
- 1:24Speaker 2: with our guys Tom Offerman and Vince Williams.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Like, Something in the air there in Cleveland.
- 1:29Speaker 2: I don't know if it's in the water in the lake,
- 1:31Speaker 2: but it seems to just rise up out of Lake
- 1:34Speaker 2: Erie like a lake monster when it gets tight between
- 1:38Speaker 2: these two teams. And suddenly the curse, the hex, the jinx,
- 1:43Speaker 2: it just puts the ball in the hands of the
- 1:44Speaker 2: guys wearing brown somehow, some way. And it's frustrating.
- 1:49Speaker 1: It's disappointing.
- 1:50Speaker 2: It was a gut punch of a loss because just
- 1:52Speaker 2: when it seemed like it was over, The Steelers claw back,
- 1:57Speaker 2: and then you think they're going to steal it, and
- 1:58Speaker 2: then it gets stolen back away from them.
- 2:01Speaker 6: The final two minutes, the game was right there, but
- 2:03Speaker 6: the defense just couldn't close things down, Double B. The
- 2:08Speaker 6: Steelers did their part. They did an 80-yard touchdown drive.
- 2:10Speaker 6: Rodgers hits Pat Friermuth and runs in for the two-point
- 2:13Speaker 6: conversion to tie the game up at 24 apiece with
- 2:16Speaker 6: a minute 42 left. And the Browns come right back,
- 2:19Speaker 6: 36 yards, seven plays, and they didn't really face too
- 2:22Speaker 6: much resistance, did they? And I don't know about you,
- 2:25Speaker 6: but I felt pumped. In one hand, I was, hey,
- 2:28Speaker 6: Steelers came back. They put 14 points on the board
- 2:30Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter. But was it too little too late?
- 2:34Speaker 6: Because my fear was the defense, they simply couldn't get
- 2:37Speaker 6: a lot of stops last night. The Browns didn't gash
- 2:39Speaker 6: them on huge chunk plays, but the Browns' offense made
- 2:43Speaker 6: the plays when they had to. And once again, that
- 2:45Speaker 6: final sequence, you knew, Schmidt's a good kicker. So you
- 2:48Speaker 6: knew as soon as they got past the 50-yard line,
- 2:50Speaker 6: there was a good chance they were going to have
- 2:51Speaker 6: him in a position to do what he did.
- 2:53Speaker 2: I actually woke up to the surprise that Andre Schmidt
- 2:57Speaker 2: is my kicker on one of my fantasy teams. I
- 3:01Speaker 2: don't normally ever start people against the Steelers. It would
- 3:06Speaker 2: have been a lot better if he... I would have
- 3:07Speaker 2: taken three less points or whatever. And yet, I guess
- 3:12Speaker 2: if there's any silver lining, 12 points from andre schmidt
- 3:17Speaker 2: but no i mean i even in that moment i
- 3:20Speaker 2: felt like the defense was not going to give up
- 3:24Speaker 2: a drive that got the browns into field goal range
- 3:26Speaker 2: despite their struggles to that point in the night i've
- 3:29Speaker 2: just seen the steelers defense tee off one too many
- 3:31Speaker 2: times in that very scenario not necessarily in cleveland again
- 3:35Speaker 2: we know the struggles up there but i thought it
- 3:37Speaker 2: would be more likely that tj watt or alex highsmith
- 3:40Speaker 2: would you know get to deshaun watson and knock the
- 3:42Speaker 2: ball out and chris boswell would be lining up for
- 3:46Speaker 2: a game winning field goal than what actually took place.
- 3:50Speaker 2: That was surprising to me in that moment. And, you know, you,
- 3:54Speaker 2: you just talk about, it's such a game of inches
- 3:57Speaker 2: and that's why we love football. That's why we watch it.
- 3:59Speaker 2: And it's the ultimate reality show. Sometimes it, it breaks
- 4:03Speaker 2: your heart, but Asante Samuel jr. Nearly breaks up that
- 4:06Speaker 2: very first completion to Jerry Judy actually thought he did
- 4:09Speaker 2: and started celebrating it.
- 4:11Speaker 7: I saw that.
- 4:11Speaker 2: And next thing you know, he did, you know, they're
- 4:13Speaker 2: running up, no huddling to, uh, to get the snap
- 4:16Speaker 2: off again, and they even lost another five yards after
- 4:21Speaker 2: that on a false start. But, man, that was a spark,
- 4:25Speaker 2: I guess, for them on that drive, and it was
- 4:27Speaker 2: all downhill from there.
- 4:28Speaker 6: Well, it's funny you mention that because that was my
- 4:31Speaker 6: thought going into that final Browns drive. There was only
- 4:34Speaker 6: one way the Steelers were going to win that game,
- 4:36Speaker 6: and it was a splash play by.
- 4:37Speaker 7: The defense again.
- 4:38Speaker 6: To do what they did against Atlanta with T.J. Watt
- 4:41Speaker 6: with the interception, return for a touchdown. Last week, Derek Harmon.
- 4:45Speaker 6: right at the end of the game against the Bengals.
- 4:47Speaker 6: The only way that defense and the Steelers were going
- 4:49Speaker 6: to win that game last night was if their defense
- 4:52Speaker 6: made a splash play for the third time this season
- 4:55Speaker 6: towards the end of a football game. And as you said,
- 4:58Speaker 6: Double B put the Steelers' offense on that side of
- 5:01Speaker 6: the field because the Steelers' offense.
- 5:03Speaker 7: Look, they were clunky.
- 5:04Speaker 6: The first drive, and we're going to talk about it
- 5:06Speaker 6: all here today on the show, the first drive was great.
- 5:08Speaker 6: offensive drive for the Steelers the beginning that first quarter
- 5:11Speaker 6: was awesome second quarter disaster third quarter not much better
- 5:14Speaker 6: fourth quarter offense got their act together DK Metcalf made
- 5:17Speaker 6: some plays Jalen Warren had a good game Aaron Rodgers
- 5:20Speaker 6: finally found his spot in that fourth quarter um they
- 5:23Speaker 6: were there if they get the ball back I'm very
- 5:26Speaker 6: confident at that point that the offense is going to
- 5:28Speaker 6: turn that game around for them late and pull out
- 5:31Speaker 6: this win but they didn't get the ball well they
- 5:33Speaker 6: did get the ball back but there was hardly any
- 5:35Speaker 6: time left.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Yeah um and even the desperation heave from Aaron Rogers downfield,
- 5:41Speaker 2: you know, it gets, it gets picked off.
- 5:43Speaker 1: And, you know, that means at the.
- 5:45Speaker 2: End of the day, the Steelers, you know, they lost,
- 5:50Speaker 2: or I guess they tied right in the turnover battle
- 5:54Speaker 2: two to two, but you know, you almost don't even
- 5:56Speaker 2: count that one.
- 5:57Speaker 1: So, you know, they did their part in, in that
- 6:01Speaker 1: realm too.
- 6:02Speaker 2: So it's always kind of surprising when you, essentially win
- 6:06Speaker 2: the turnover battle but uh got nothing to show for
- 6:09Speaker 2: it so yeah i mean it it usually speaks to
- 6:14Speaker 2: fundamental breakdowns at various levels of the defense and we
- 6:18Speaker 2: know that that happened early and often last night the
- 6:21Speaker 2: jaleel mclaughlin 28 yard touchdown run was a that was
- 6:24Speaker 2: tough was a failure of tackling clearly um you know
- 6:28Speaker 2: these guys are pros they they know that you don't
- 6:30Speaker 2: have to tell them that and some of the coverage
- 6:33Speaker 2: lapses you look at the was it 55 yards to
- 6:37Speaker 2: Denzel Boston? Um, over the top there.
- 6:39Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 6:40Speaker 2: 60 yards actually shorted them by five yards where Dalen
- 6:43Speaker 2: Everett clearly thought he had safety help when he didn't miscommunication.
- 6:47Speaker 2: He acknowledged that afterward savvy by the rookie though. He
- 6:50Speaker 2: didn't point fingers at anyone. Just said, Hey, it was
- 6:52Speaker 2: a miscommunication.
- 6:53Speaker 1: That's it.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Um, and that's going to happen with a rookie being
- 6:55Speaker 2: back there into the mix.
- 6:58Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 6:58Speaker 1: And I think he's going to grow and get better
- 6:59Speaker 1: from it.
- 7:00Speaker 8: Agreed.
- 7:01Speaker 2: Um, but yeah, so, you know, and then, you know,
- 7:03Speaker 2: just those completions with, I guess they're kind of playing
- 7:06Speaker 2: a softer coverage there, and you hope that they're going
- 7:09Speaker 2: to run out of time, and when they do, it's
- 7:12Speaker 2: going to be a long field goal.
- 7:13Speaker 1: It was 56, but Schmidt happens.
- 7:18Speaker 7: Well, that's a good takeaway. I like it. I agree,
- 7:21Speaker 7: and unfortunately it happened at the worst time there, right
- 7:24Speaker 7: at the end of the game.
- 7:25Speaker 6: Game got off to a good start for the Steelers.
- 7:27Speaker 6: Browns take the ball, opening kickoff, holding, right? They're pushed back.
- 7:31Speaker 6: Steelers force a three and out, and then their first
- 7:33Speaker 6: offensive series is Great drive, 17 plays, 78 yards, 9 minutes,
- 7:40Speaker 6: 48 seconds taken off the clock, which results in the
- 7:43Speaker 6: Roman Wilson 12-yard touchdown. Steelers up 7-0, and then they
- 7:48Speaker 6: force another 3-and-out for the Cleveland Browns on their next
- 7:52Speaker 6: offensive series.
- 7:53Speaker 7: Then things crumbled on this. This is our turning point
- 7:56Speaker 7: of the game. Rodgers gets a snap back to pass.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Browns bringing pressure.
- 8:00Speaker 7: Rodgers throws down the seam. Oh, it's picked off.
- 8:03Speaker 3: It was intended for Pittman up the right seam. And
- 8:06Speaker 3: Denzel Ward, that's the first career interception for Aaron Rodgers
- 8:11Speaker 3: against the Cleveland Browns. And Denzel Ward, the five-time Pro Bowler,
- 8:16Speaker 3: comes up with his first interception of the season.
- 8:19Speaker 6: Brian, no doubt that changed this game to the Cleveland Browns' favor.
- 8:22Speaker 6: The Steelers had momentum at that point. And then all
- 8:25Speaker 6: of a sudden, Cleveland had life. They took advantage of it.
- 8:27Speaker 6: Three straight scores after that. 21 unanswered points.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Yeah, Todd Munkin said in his postgame that he gave
- 8:34Speaker 2: Denzel Ward a game ball because he thought that just
- 8:36Speaker 2: shifted all the momentum. And I mean, I guess Aaron
- 8:40Speaker 2: Rodgers got hit on that throw. But I also don't
- 8:44Speaker 2: really know what he was seeing on that play. I mean,
- 8:46Speaker 2: Michael Pittman didn't have position there. That was confusing to
- 8:49Speaker 2: me because there were other times in that game, especially
- 8:52Speaker 2: early in the first half, where I thought, you know
- 8:54Speaker 2: there were guys if not open downfield at least they
- 8:57Speaker 2: had single coverage and you could get rid of the
- 8:59Speaker 2: ball to them to try to let them make a
- 9:00Speaker 2: play but for whatever reason rogers held on to it
- 9:03Speaker 2: and you know he was getting hit left and right
- 9:05Speaker 2: five sacks in the end by five different browns i
- 9:08Speaker 2: mean i don't know what you thought ed i i
- 9:10Speaker 2: didn't think the offensive line was as bad as that
- 9:12Speaker 2: stat line would indicate you know i thought some of
- 9:14Speaker 2: them were you've got a 42 year old quarterback who
- 9:18Speaker 2: he's not going to pull it down and run like
- 9:20Speaker 2: lamar jackson or even like deshaun watson did on some
- 9:23Speaker 2: of those plays and what he's capable of doing. So
- 9:27Speaker 2: he's a little bit of a, of a steady target
- 9:29Speaker 2: back there. And, you know, the escapability is it's there
- 9:33Speaker 2: in spurts, but it's not really there consistently. And I
- 9:36Speaker 2: think that's a difficult assignment for an O-line. And, you know,
- 9:40Speaker 2: some of those were just well-timed dialed up blitzes for
- 9:45Speaker 2: the Browns. And, you know, like I said, five different
- 9:48Speaker 2: guys get sacks and none of them were Jared verse who,
- 9:52Speaker 2: Certainly impacted the game. It seemed like he was always
- 9:55Speaker 2: in the middle of things and around the ball, and yes, chirping,
- 9:58Speaker 2: very chippy.
- 9:59Speaker 1: He was. run his mouth a lot he's a villain in.
- 10:01Speaker 2: The steelers browns rivalry already i did not realize he
- 10:04Speaker 2: was so uh red i didn't realize he was such
- 10:08Speaker 2: a red you know what yeah i guess i guess
- 10:10Speaker 2: he feels like hey the browns brought me in traded
- 10:13Speaker 2: Myles Garrett for me. I know they don't like this
- 10:15Speaker 2: team from the other side of the border. I better
- 10:18Speaker 2: do my thing. He's a PA guy, by the way,
- 10:20Speaker 2: Jared Verse.
- 10:20Speaker 6: He had Terrell Suggs-type vibes last night for me.
- 10:24Speaker 2: Yeah, and he talked his junk after the game, too. But,
- 10:26Speaker 2: you know, that's what you get to do when you win.
- 10:29Speaker 6: I thought the offensive line took a step back last
- 10:32Speaker 6: night after taking a huge step forward last week against
- 10:35Speaker 6: the Bengals. And you and I talked about it on
- 10:37Speaker 6: the show all week long. We wanted to see two
- 10:39Speaker 6: consecutive games put together. I'm with you on the stat line.
- 10:42Speaker 6: Maybe not as bad as that appeared. But listen, facts
- 10:45Speaker 6: are facts. Ten quarterback hits last night by the Browns.
- 10:49Speaker 7: Five sacks.
- 10:49Speaker 6: That's 15 times they got to Aaron Rodgers. That cannot
- 10:53Speaker 6: sustain going forward. Troy Fontano, I thought, got beat a
- 10:56Speaker 6: handful of times on the left side. Maxi Onachor got
- 10:59Speaker 6: beat on the right side. Brock Hoffman, a couple plays
- 11:02Speaker 6: that he missed. I thought actually Mason McCormick, Zach Frazier
- 11:05Speaker 6: did very well in that interior left side and Frazier
- 11:08Speaker 6: at the center spot. But look, Maxi Onachor was only
- 11:11Speaker 6: starting his second NFL game, Brian. You're going to have
- 11:14Speaker 6: these hiccups throughout the year. It's part of the growing
- 11:16Speaker 6: pains of having a rookie in this lineup. And, you know,
- 11:19Speaker 6: I was just doing the show, our series XM show
- 11:22Speaker 6: with Chris Adamski here on Steelers Nation Radio before you
- 11:25Speaker 6: came in here today.
- 11:26Speaker 7: And Chris and I talked about it.
- 11:28Speaker 6: When you have a rookie offensive lineman, or even a
- 11:30Speaker 6: rookie quarterback for that matter, they're.
- 11:33Speaker 7: Playing, right?
- 11:33Speaker 6: They're either starting or they're in there for an injured player.
- 11:36Speaker 6: When you have a rookie playmaker, a wide receiver, running back,
- 11:38Speaker 6: they'll take a series on.
- 11:40Speaker 7: They'll take a series off.
- 11:41Speaker 6: Snaps are limited throughout an NFL season, so that margin
- 11:44Speaker 6: of error is not on display as much for an
- 11:47Speaker 6: offensive lineman. or for a quarterback for that matter. Steelers
- 11:50Speaker 6: don't have to worry about a rookie quarterback in the
- 11:51Speaker 6: lineup right now, but they do have to with Maxi Onachor.
- 11:53Speaker 6: So it's not going to be clean every game. It's
- 11:55Speaker 6: going to get better as the season goes on. Look,
- 11:57Speaker 6: he has the it factor. He's going to be just fine,
- 11:59Speaker 6: but you're going to have games like last night, unfortunately,
- 12:01Speaker 6: that you're going to have to sift through as the
- 12:03Speaker 6: season goes on.
- 12:04Speaker 7: As long as he keeps progressing, I think he'll be
- 12:05Speaker 7: just fine.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that game against the Bengals was a
- 12:08Speaker 2: great start. It's also film out there now for other
- 12:11Speaker 2: teams to study, and they're going to try to pick
- 12:14Speaker 2: up on his tendencies and attack his weaknesses, but you know,
- 12:18Speaker 2: he's got the requisite physical tools to turn some of
- 12:23Speaker 2: those weaknesses around and adjust when teams try to do
- 12:27Speaker 2: that to him. But I mean, hey, as much as
- 12:30Speaker 2: I hate to say it, you do have to give
- 12:31Speaker 2: credit to the Browns. They played pretty inspired for a
- 12:35Speaker 2: lot of that game when it looked like they could
- 12:37Speaker 2: have gone in the tank and gotten blown out. But
- 12:40Speaker 2: they were flying around and guys that I think I
- 12:43Speaker 2: probably said on the show that like, you know, Aiden
- 12:45Speaker 2: Huntington and Michael Hall and Sam Williams like they're they're
- 12:50Speaker 2: not really big name guys but you've you've got to
- 12:52Speaker 2: tip your cap when they go out there and make
- 12:54Speaker 2: some of the plays that they did they.
- 12:55Speaker 7: Had a good defensive game plan too coming in against.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Uh you know Mason Graham and they did so yeah
- 13:01Speaker 2: you know and Hall got banged up a little bit
- 13:04Speaker 2: he came back yeah Munkin was very uh complimentary of
- 13:07Speaker 2: him for playing through that because the team needed him
- 13:10Speaker 2: I thought it really hurt the Steelers to lose Derek
- 13:12Speaker 2: Harmon up front because we were all talking you know
- 13:15Speaker 2: not to make excuses but like when you talk about
- 13:17Speaker 2: how well a guy played a previous week and then
- 13:19Speaker 2: he goes down early in the second quarter of the
- 13:21Speaker 2: next game, well, yeah, I mean that that's going to
- 13:23Speaker 2: be a, a net negative for the team. It's, it's
- 13:26Speaker 2: always next man up, but Patrick Graham just spent last
- 13:29Speaker 2: week talking about this guy's different. So why a black
- 13:32Speaker 2: and Sebastian Joseph, they are solid players, but I don't
- 13:35Speaker 2: know that they are difference makers the way a Derek
- 13:38Speaker 2: Harmon is and, and can be each week. But then again,
- 13:42Speaker 2: like I said, Browns lost their stud second year defensive
- 13:46Speaker 2: tackle early as well and still found a way to
- 13:48Speaker 2: get it done.
- 13:48Speaker 6: And then Jamel Dean goes down at the corner spot
- 13:51Speaker 6: last night, too. That certainly didn't help matters. We already
- 13:53Speaker 6: knew about Joey Porter Jr. no longer with the team
- 13:55Speaker 6: going into yesterday.
- 13:56Speaker 2: And now you have a very unfortunate timing for the
- 13:59Speaker 2: Steelers corners to struggle with staying on the field and
- 14:03Speaker 2: making plays on the field.
- 14:05Speaker 6: And Ray Sean Jenkins got yanked early on in this game.
- 14:08Speaker 7: Robert Spears Jennings played the majority at that safety spot.
- 14:10Speaker 2: He played well, I thought.
- 14:11Speaker 7: I thought he did, too.
- 14:12Speaker 2: You know, seven tackles, six of them solo. He's a
- 14:14Speaker 2: very sure tackler. He makes a pick on a play where,
- 14:17Speaker 2: you know, your ball skills need to be up to snuff.
- 14:19Speaker 1: And good thing.
- 14:20Speaker 2: Jack Sawyer tipped the pass. Credit to Mike McCarthy for
- 14:23Speaker 2: that challenge, am I? Am I am I messed up?
- 14:26Speaker 2: I didn't even realize you could challenge that.
- 14:27Speaker 1: Did you know that?
- 14:28Speaker 7: I did not know that.
- 14:29Speaker 1: I don't think you see.
- 14:30Speaker 2: That very often. I mean, does that happen like once
- 14:32Speaker 2: or twice a year in the NFL?
- 14:34Speaker 6: And in real time, there's no way you could see
- 14:36Speaker 6: that Jack Sawyer got a.
- 14:37Speaker 2: Well, that's why McCarthy was like he was actually kind
- 14:39Speaker 2: of tongue in cheek after the game. He was saying, Jack,
- 14:42Speaker 2: you got to let us know when you come off
- 14:44Speaker 2: the field, if you tip that.
- 14:45Speaker 1: But maybe Jack.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Didn't know either, because we know like the NFL had
- 14:48Speaker 2: the yes, you can know you can't challenge P.I.
- 14:51Speaker 1: Because it's a judgment call.
- 14:53Speaker 2: But that is a little bit different because it's a
- 14:56Speaker 2: tip at the line of scrimmage that video can review. And, well,
- 15:00Speaker 2: I do at least know the rules of football that
- 15:01Speaker 2: if a ball is touched.
- 15:02Speaker 7: It's a free game.
- 15:03Speaker 2: For sure.
- 15:04Speaker 7: Yep, you can do whatever at that point.
- 15:06Speaker 2: But, yeah, credit McCarthy.
- 15:07Speaker 1: That was a savvy move.
- 15:08Speaker 6: Whenever we come back, we're going to dive into some
- 15:10Speaker 6: player and team stats. Plus, we've got Backo's Quick 6
- 15:14Speaker 6: coming up at 2.40 today.
- 15:15Speaker 7: 3 o'clock.
- 15:16Speaker 1: And it was quick after that game.
- 15:18Speaker 7: I was going to say it was going to be
- 15:19Speaker 7: a real quick 6. Last week's quick 6, we probably
- 15:21Speaker 7: could have spread out for a whole hour.
- 15:23Speaker 6: But we'll devote one segment, my friend, to that coming
- 15:26Speaker 6: up here at 2.40 today.
- 15:27Speaker 7: Then 3 o'clock, the Steelers are four games in.
- 15:31Speaker 6: What's ahead for the black and gold they're tuned to
- 15:33Speaker 6: after four we'll get back those thoughts on where we
- 15:35Speaker 6: go from here plus we'll get into some Steeler team
- 15:38Speaker 6: statistics at 320 today and we'll wrap up the show
- 15:41Speaker 6: at 340 with our renegade preview the other games in
- 15:45Speaker 6: week four around the AFC North AFC and NFL he's
- 15:49Speaker 6: back oh I'm troop it's the Steelers report here on
- 15:51Speaker 6: Steelers Nation Radio part of the Steelers audio network.
- 16:00Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't our cleanest game all the way around.
- 16:04Speaker 4: They're a good defense, so you got to give them credit,
- 16:06Speaker 4: but they were getting after us on some of the
- 16:10Speaker 4: long yardage stuff, and we weren't, you know, weren't winning
- 16:16Speaker 4: a bunch, and I missed a couple throws as you hit.
- 16:21Speaker 1: It's early.
- 16:22Speaker 8: Todd's a very good offensive mind. He's done an excellent
- 16:26Speaker 8: job both in the league and, I mean, for a
- 16:30Speaker 8: long time he's an established coach and you know they
- 16:33Speaker 8: got weapons i thought they did a good job spreading
- 16:35Speaker 8: the ball around you know so uh but the back
- 16:38Speaker 8: the backs ran hard so i thought they had a
- 16:41Speaker 8: really a very balanced attack.
- 16:43Speaker 5: This is the steelers report with brian batco and ed
- 16:47Speaker 5: truth on steelers nation radio a part of the steelers
- 16:51Speaker 5: audio network.
- 16:53Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers and head coach Mike McCarthy after last night's
- 16:57Speaker 6: Thursday night. Browns 27, Pittsburgh Steelers 24.
- 17:02Speaker 7: Week 4 matchup.
- 17:03Speaker 6: Steelers now 2-2 in the AFC North. The Cleveland Browns
- 17:07Speaker 6: go to 3-1 and.
- 17:08Speaker 7: Atop the AFC North. Double B. The Browns fans made
- 17:13Speaker 7: a mistake, though.
- 17:14Speaker 6: I don't know if you've seen this circulating out on
- 17:16Speaker 6: social media. They burnt the terrible towel during a tailgate.
- 17:21Speaker 6: Before the start of the game.
- 17:22Speaker 2: That typically comes back to haunt teams. I think the
- 17:26Speaker 2: Texans may have desecrated a towel.
- 17:29Speaker 8: They did.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Ahead of that playoff game.
- 17:31Speaker 8: They did.
- 17:32Speaker 1: Last season.
- 17:32Speaker 7: The mascot. He cut it in half.
- 17:35Speaker 1: How are things going for them since then?
- 17:36Speaker 7: They have not won a game since. How about that?
- 17:39Speaker 6: So Cleveland, go ahead and celebrate your 3-1 start. But
- 17:42Speaker 6: you might want to watch the rest.
- 17:43Speaker 7: Of your season.
- 17:44Speaker 2: So the Browns. I know Jared verse going back to
- 17:48Speaker 2: him again. He said, this ain't the same old Browns
- 17:50Speaker 2: last night. And that's the kind of diatribe that you
- 17:53Speaker 2: would expect from a new player with a new regime
- 17:56Speaker 2: for a more abundant franchise. After a game like that,
- 18:00Speaker 2: that's you, you earn that to be fair to Jared verse. You,
- 18:03Speaker 2: you earn the chance to get up on your soap
- 18:05Speaker 2: box a little bit. When you win a game like that,
- 18:07Speaker 2: they go to the jets next week. So they could
- 18:11Speaker 2: get up to four and one because the jets will
- 18:13Speaker 2: be coming off a game in Chicago. which might be tough.
- 18:17Speaker 2: Then the Browns have the Ravens at home. If this
- 18:20Speaker 2: wasn't their Super Bowl last night, that one will be.
- 18:23Speaker 2: They go to the Titans, who have not won a
- 18:25Speaker 2: game yet. Then they come back to Pittsburgh for hopefully
- 18:28Speaker 2: a dish served cold from the Steelers. And we know
- 18:33Speaker 2: they also play the NFC South. They've already had a
- 18:35Speaker 2: couple of those games. They play the last place Raiders
- 18:38Speaker 2: from last season who are first place Raiders right now.
- 18:41Speaker 2: And they get the Giants and the Colts later in
- 18:44Speaker 2: the year in addition to their Bengals matchups.
- 18:46Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see what happens.
- 18:47Speaker 6: I mean, I.
- 18:50Speaker 1: Was talking to a couple people in the food line
- 18:52Speaker 1: at halftime.
- 18:53Speaker 2: Just said....
- 18:56Speaker 7: Anything good, by the way, to eat?
- 18:58Speaker 1: Cleveland Press Box food.
- 18:59Speaker 4: What'd you have?
- 19:00Speaker 2: Fantastic, actually, by the way. Pasta bar pregame.
- 19:03Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Really good.
- 19:04Speaker 2: Shout out to the two ladies who were frying that
- 19:07Speaker 2: all up there. That was tremendous. And they had some
- 19:09Speaker 2: kind of, like, dessert station at halftime with... Your choice
- 19:13Speaker 2: was either waffles or biscuits with, like... Peach cobbler and, like,
- 19:17Speaker 2: apples and strawberries and stuff on top. And you could
- 19:20Speaker 2: get ice cream. I didn't need ice cream because I'd
- 19:22Speaker 2: already had an ice cream Butterfinger before the game.
- 19:25Speaker 1: They had just a lot of stuff.
- 19:26Speaker 7: And that was offered, too?
- 19:27Speaker 2: That was offered, too.
- 19:28Speaker 7: For the pregame meal.
- 19:29Speaker 8: Yep.
- 19:29Speaker 2: So I went with a biscuit because it was a
- 19:31Speaker 2: shorter line with all these, like, yeah, the fix-ins of, like,
- 19:35Speaker 2: the strawberry sauce and caramel apples and stuff. It was
- 19:38Speaker 2: a weird thing to eat at halftime of a game,
- 19:40Speaker 2: but it wasn't bad at all. Because normally you're like
- 19:42Speaker 2: hot dogs, chicken tenders. I don't really do the hot
- 19:44Speaker 2: dogs thing. I'm not a huge hot dogs guy, but occasionally.
- 19:48Speaker 7: But it's more like that type of stuff.
- 19:50Speaker 1: At halftime.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Pizza.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Right.
- 19:52Speaker 2: Okay.
- 19:52Speaker 7: Anyhow, back to your point. I'm sorry. Food line, you
- 19:54Speaker 7: were talking to somebody.
- 19:55Speaker 2: I was like, is Deshaun Watson actually going to be
- 19:59Speaker 2: good again after all that? We talked about it on
- 20:01Speaker 2: the show last week, too, of how I never would
- 20:02Speaker 2: have dreamed we'd be having this discussion. If he is,
- 20:06Speaker 2: if he has actually turned a corner and Maybe he'll
- 20:09Speaker 2: never approach like MVP candidate 2020 Deshaun Watson again, but
- 20:14Speaker 2: if he's just simply good again, the Browns might be
- 20:18Speaker 2: a problem because a lot of that young talent, we've
- 20:21Speaker 2: been singing their praises and many have since, since they
- 20:24Speaker 2: put that draft class together last year and added to
- 20:26Speaker 2: it this year.
- 20:27Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 20:29Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not, I'm not getting out over my
- 20:31Speaker 2: skis on them four games in, but I was pretty
- 20:34Speaker 2: impressed by some of, of what I saw and it's,
- 20:38Speaker 2: It's just shocking because I think people in Cleveland were
- 20:41Speaker 2: way out on Deshaun, obviously, but also way out on
- 20:44Speaker 2: Andrew Barry as their GM. And they've just been through
- 20:48Speaker 2: so much tomfoolery at quarterback. I had this thought yesterday.
- 20:53Speaker 2: I was looking some stuff up before or after we
- 20:55Speaker 2: were on or during. Do you remember who the Browns
- 20:57Speaker 2: week one starting QB was last year?
- 20:59Speaker 4: Oh, boy. Help me.
- 21:01Speaker 7: I have no clue.
- 21:02Speaker 2: Because the Steelers faced Dylan Gabriel and beat him. And
- 21:05Speaker 2: then they faced Shador Sanders and lost two. Well, they
- 21:08Speaker 2: didn't bench anyone.
- 21:09Speaker 7: They didn't have Joe Flacco. They had Joe Flacco.
- 21:10Speaker 1: Yes, they traded Joe Flacco.
- 21:12Speaker 2: That's right. But I was like, I couldn't think of it.
- 21:15Speaker 2: I couldn't remember.
- 21:16Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's right, because Kenny Pickett was
- 21:18Speaker 1: also involved.
- 21:18Speaker 2: In that preseason quarterback derby, and he got traded after
- 21:22Speaker 2: he got hurt.
- 21:23Speaker 1: So they've been through a lot at the quarterback position.
- 21:25Speaker 2: I wouldn't say they've found it or rediscovered it with
- 21:28Speaker 2: Deshaun just yet, but he was pretty good last night, Ed.
- 21:32Speaker 7: 24 of 33.
- 21:33Speaker 2: I give him begrudging credit for how he played.
- 21:36Speaker 1: 268 yards.
- 21:38Speaker 6: A touchdown and interception was only sacked twice last night.
- 21:42Speaker 6: He did not run the football at all. So he
- 21:44Speaker 6: did not. Well, let's see here. Well, man, they actually
- 21:46Speaker 6: have him for seven carries for 22 yards. I was
- 21:48Speaker 6: looking at the receiving numbers.
- 21:49Speaker 2: He took off on, on one or two that I recall.
- 21:52Speaker 2: Now there was the one that they, I don't think
- 21:55Speaker 2: they gave TJ what a sack on that read option
- 21:58Speaker 2: play where he knocked the ball away. And it was
- 22:00Speaker 2: great to hear Vince Williams talking about it on the blitz,
- 22:03Speaker 2: go back and listen to them. If you haven't already
- 22:06Speaker 2: on the, You know, Steelers audio network where you can
- 22:09Speaker 2: find your podcast because he said he watched TJ work
- 22:12Speaker 2: on that technique, you know, back when he was helping
- 22:16Speaker 2: the Steelers as an assistant coach. And I mean, it's
- 22:19Speaker 2: just TJ doing TJ things. It's it's incredible what he does.
- 22:23Speaker 6: So what Brian is talking about is Deshaun Watson faking
- 22:26Speaker 6: the handoff to the play.
- 22:27Speaker 7: Looks like it's going left.
- 22:28Speaker 6: So TJ Watts coming basically unblocked to go after the
- 22:31Speaker 6: running back. And as an offensive lineman, you're going to
- 22:33Speaker 6: allow that to happen because you want him to go
- 22:35Speaker 6: after on the edge so he doesn't have a chance
- 22:38Speaker 6: to get the quarterback on the read option. But what
- 22:41Speaker 6: you're describing is TJ shows the quarterback that he took
- 22:45Speaker 6: the bait, but no, no, no, he didn't take the bait.
- 22:47Speaker 7: He goes and gets one.
- 22:48Speaker 1: Who thinks of that?
- 22:49Speaker 2: Who thinks of that?
- 22:50Speaker 7: It's next level stuff.
- 22:51Speaker 2: We always talk about TJ's physical traits and how dominant
- 22:54Speaker 2: he is there, but the mental game is why he's
- 22:57Speaker 2: gold jacket.
- 22:58Speaker 6: And when I say next-level stuff, I'm not talking next-level
- 23:01Speaker 6: NFL stuff. I'm talking next-level beyond NFL stuff, Hall of
- 23:04Speaker 6: Fame-type stuff.
- 23:05Speaker 7: That's a Hall of Fame play.
- 23:06Speaker 1: They put you in Canton for doing that.
- 23:07Speaker 2: Oh, and by the way, how about the pass breakup
- 23:09Speaker 2: that he had last night where it was a near
- 23:12Speaker 2: miss with T.J. Watt brilliance because he sensed the throw come.
- 23:15Speaker 1: And spun around.
- 23:17Speaker 7: From behind.
- 23:17Speaker 2: Yeah, and got a hand to knock the ball away.
- 23:20Speaker 2: I mean, would it have shocked anybody if he picked
- 23:23Speaker 2: that off? No, but that one was just a near
- 23:26Speaker 2: missed connection that was almost– you know, more bonkers TJ
- 23:30Speaker 2: Watt stuff. So he brought it last night. You know,
- 23:34Speaker 2: DK Metcalf brought it last night. Who Jalen Warren brought
- 23:39Speaker 2: it last night. There was some good in that game
- 23:43Speaker 2: for sure. People aren't going to want to hear it
- 23:44Speaker 2: the morning after the afternoon after when you lose a 27,
- 23:48Speaker 2: 24 on a last second field goal to the Browns
- 23:51Speaker 2: again in Cleveland, but I'm not, I'm not panicking by
- 23:55Speaker 2: any stretch yet.
- 23:57Speaker 6: Again, If you take out the second and third quarter,
- 24:02Speaker 6: we're fine.
- 24:02Speaker 7: The first and fourth quarter were great.
- 24:05Speaker 6: It was that sequence during that second quarter that not
- 24:08Speaker 6: only the Steelers' offense didn't respond, but the Steelers' defense
- 24:11Speaker 6: didn't respond either. Three straight touchdowns by Cleveland, and then
- 24:15Speaker 6: the Steelers' offense, you had the interception. Then you had
- 24:18Speaker 6: a punt, which was only a three-and-out, three-play, five-yard possession.
- 24:22Speaker 7: Then the missed field goal. by Chris Boswell as well.
- 24:25Speaker 6: That was a seven-play 35-yard, and now Bos has missed
- 24:28Speaker 6: a few field goals here and there too, Brian.
- 24:30Speaker 7: Not all his fault. That snap wasn't great, by the way.
- 24:34Speaker 6: There was a half a second little bit of a delay,
- 24:36Speaker 6: and if you watch NFL, if you watch college football
- 24:38Speaker 6: for that matter, even high school, my goodness, if any
- 24:41Speaker 6: of that sequence from the snap to the hold to
- 24:43Speaker 6: the kick, if it's off by just a half a
- 24:45Speaker 6: second or less, it does not matter. It screws everything up.
- 24:49Speaker 6: And I think that happened on that play when I
- 24:50Speaker 6: was watching the replay. But, you know, you mentioned DK Metcalf,
- 24:53Speaker 6: and I want to talk to you about Metcalf. Five catches,
- 24:55Speaker 6: 115 yards last night. That fourth quarter, I felt like
- 24:59Speaker 6: he went from third gear to sixth gear. He went
- 25:02Speaker 6: up a level, and it showed on the football field.
- 25:04Speaker 6: The Steelers needed DK to do that, and the Steelers' playmakers...
- 25:10Speaker 6: They needed someone to step up to do that, and
- 25:12Speaker 6: it was DK Metcalf in a big way. But, you know, Brian,
- 25:15Speaker 6: I pulled his targets the first few games, and he's
- 25:17Speaker 6: had a bunch. I mean, he's been in almost double
- 25:19Speaker 6: figures every single week when it comes to where they're
- 25:24Speaker 6: targeting DK Metcalf.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Yeah, they're definitely trying to get him the ball.
- 25:28Speaker 6: He's on pace right now for 140 targets on the
- 25:31Speaker 6: season if this continues on.
- 25:33Speaker 7: Throughout the rest of the season. Do you know that
- 25:34Speaker 7: would be his career high?
- 25:36Speaker 4: Wow.
- 25:36Speaker 6: Um, that, I mean, that's incredibly, he's a big part
- 25:39Speaker 6: of this game plan. They just needed him to take
- 25:41Speaker 6: that next gear to go from third to sixth gear.
- 25:43Speaker 6: And he did it in the fourth quarter. Hopefully we
- 25:45Speaker 6: see more of that.
- 25:46Speaker 2: Yeah. And I was trying to ask him a couple
- 25:47Speaker 2: of questions last night after the game about building on that,
- 25:50Speaker 2: but he had no, uh, no, no time for such things.
- 25:53Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure he was as frustrated as, as
- 25:56Speaker 2: anybody coming out of that locker room. And, you know, he,
- 25:59Speaker 2: he didn't, he didn't make a big deal about, Oh,
- 26:02Speaker 2: I'm back or anything. He actually said, I've been back. So, um, Hey,
- 26:07Speaker 2: no drop passes. No, yeah, no, no drops. And it's good.
- 26:11Speaker 2: I think to his point, like he did get it
- 26:12Speaker 2: going a little bit at the end of the Bengals
- 26:14Speaker 2: game too, even if the, the box score numbers weren't good,
- 26:16Speaker 2: but Hey, now all of a sudden after as down
- 26:19Speaker 2: as everybody was on DK through two weeks, he's got
- 26:21Speaker 2: a touchdown and a hundred yard game in back-to-back weeks.
- 26:25Speaker 2: That was his third highest receiving output since he became
- 26:28Speaker 2: a stealer. He was making those catches over top of guys.
- 26:31Speaker 2: He was making tough catches, too. I mean, that one
- 26:33Speaker 2: in the first half, fingertips, found a way to dive
- 26:36Speaker 2: and pull it in. It looked like he and Aaron
- 26:37Speaker 2: Rodgers were very much connected and on the same page there. So, yeah,
- 26:44Speaker 2: that was a sight for sore eyes and hopefully more
- 26:46Speaker 2: to come from DK. It seemed to, it was unfortunate
- 26:49Speaker 2: he got called with that taunting call, too, early on.
- 26:51Speaker 7: Had a nice catch, got up. It would have been
- 26:53Speaker 7: a first down for the Steelers.
- 26:55Speaker 1: All his catches went for a first down.
- 26:57Speaker 7: Every single one of them.
- 26:58Speaker 1: Wow.
- 26:58Speaker 6: So he had, what, five catches? All first down catches. Hey,
- 27:02Speaker 6: you love that?
- 27:03Speaker 7: That's a good thing.
- 27:04Speaker 6: But on that taunting call, again, we're not on the field,
- 27:07Speaker 6: but I'm guessing maybe something was chirped or said.
- 27:09Speaker 2: No, they showed it on the broadcast.
- 27:10Speaker 1: He flipped the ball.
- 27:10Speaker 7: He dropped the ball. Yeah, I don't know.
- 27:12Speaker 2: If they tell you, you can't do that. It wasn't
- 27:14Speaker 2: like he threw it at him.
- 27:15Speaker 1: He got up and just dropped it. No, but we've
- 27:17Speaker 1: seen guys get called for that.
- 27:18Speaker 2: And, I mean, I think it was Al Michaels or
- 27:20Speaker 2: Herb Street made the point on the broadcast that maybe
- 27:21Speaker 2: that's the officiating crew saying, we know the vibes when
- 27:25Speaker 2: the Steelers play the Browns or anybody in this division,
- 27:27Speaker 2: let's just try to like get on it early and
- 27:30Speaker 2: make sure it doesn't become a, and it still kind
- 27:33Speaker 2: of did. I mean, there was a lot of pushing
- 27:35Speaker 2: and shoving and John after the play all the way
- 27:37Speaker 2: down to the end, but not some of the foolishness
- 27:41Speaker 2: that we had seen in previous.
- 27:42Speaker 1: Years up there, which is good.
- 27:43Speaker 7: And we sure have nobody.
- 27:44Speaker 2: Nobody wants penalties to, to set you back or, you know,
- 27:48Speaker 2: ruin your chances of winning a game and felt like
- 27:51Speaker 2: both teams were flirting with that line. Last night, but
- 27:54Speaker 2: other than the early one there on DK, I don't
- 27:57Speaker 2: think any of that happened.
- 27:59Speaker 6: Jalen Warren, 17 carries, 93 yards, averaged 5.5 yards a pop.
- 28:04Speaker 6: And I thought against Cincinnati, the offensive line did a
- 28:07Speaker 6: real nice job of opening up holes for Jalen Warren.
- 28:09Speaker 6: Last night, not so much. I think it was a
- 28:11Speaker 6: little bit tighter. So credit to Jalen Warren. I think
- 28:14Speaker 6: he gets a lot of those 93 yards on his
- 28:16Speaker 6: own last night, breaking tackles, taking defenders with him, Brian.
- 28:21Speaker 6: Jalen Warren now back-to-back nice games out of the backfield
- 28:24Speaker 6: for the Steelers.
- 28:24Speaker 2: Played all but two snaps on offense. The other two
- 28:27Speaker 2: went to Travis Homer. We did not see Lou Nichols
- 28:31Speaker 2: at all. But, yeah, I mean, you didn't really want
- 28:35Speaker 2: to because Jalen Warren, just every time he touches it,
- 28:38Speaker 2: it seems like good things happen. He did get stacked
- 28:40Speaker 2: up and hit in the backfield once or twice, I think,
- 28:44Speaker 2: and dropped for a loss. But that was more of
- 28:46Speaker 2: an issue with the blocking. Because even, I think, on
- 28:49Speaker 2: those plays, Ed, it took more than one guy to
- 28:52Speaker 2: get him down. You know, it's, it's one guy gets
- 28:55Speaker 2: to him behind the line and then a gang of
- 28:57Speaker 2: two or three others have to come in and make
- 28:58Speaker 2: sure he, he goes down. He's like a villain in
- 29:02Speaker 2: a horror movie. Like he's going to, he's going to
- 29:04Speaker 2: get back up if we don't make sure he's dead.
- 29:07Speaker 7: Jalen Warren.
- 29:08Speaker 6: Also another six targets last night from Aaron Rogers, from
- 29:11Speaker 6: a receiving standpoint, three catches for 33 yards. So Warren,
- 29:14Speaker 6: 126 total offensive yards, Brian, if you add in that
- 29:19Speaker 6: six to the 17 carries, you're now looking at 23
- 29:22Speaker 6: times they tried to get the ball to him. So
- 29:24Speaker 6: Warren and Metcalf, a huge part of this offensive game
- 29:27Speaker 6: plan each week, at least the last couple weeks.
- 29:29Speaker 2: And while we're on the topic of trying to find
- 29:32Speaker 2: a little bit of silver linings, you know, it is Friday.
- 29:35Speaker 2: The weekend's coming up. I know the food doesn't taste
- 29:37Speaker 2: as good today. The lights aren't as bright. Sun is
- 29:40Speaker 2: not as warm outside after that game, but some of
- 29:43Speaker 2: the receiver and tight end blocking I thought was really
- 29:45Speaker 2: good on those runs.
- 29:47Speaker 1: You know, whether it was on the perimeter or.
- 29:48Speaker 2: Between the tackles, like I saw Pat Fryer, Muth, Ben Skoranek,
- 29:51Speaker 2: Jeremy Bernard, Michael Pittman, Jr. You know, pushing some guys
- 29:56Speaker 2: around to, to give some of those chunks to Jalen Warren,
- 29:58Speaker 2: which is, I think going to still be a big
- 30:00Speaker 2: part of this team's, I want to say the word
- 30:03Speaker 2: identity again, DNA of this team.
- 30:06Speaker 7: I like it.
- 30:06Speaker 8: DNA.
- 30:07Speaker 1: Identities can be changed. DNA cannot.
- 30:10Speaker 4: Everyone.
- 30:10Speaker 1: Oh, really?
- 30:11Speaker 7: I guess. Well, yeah, you can't change DNA, right? I
- 30:14Speaker 7: don't know. There's a lot of AI stuff going on
- 30:16Speaker 7: out there. That's a very good discussion for another show.
- 30:19Speaker 7: Another podcast out there.
- 30:20Speaker 2: Also, Jalen Daniels, who's going to be starting at Tampa,
- 30:23Speaker 2: a QB for Tampa Bay dropped one of my favorite
- 30:25Speaker 2: football lines at his presser this week.
- 30:28Speaker 1: What do you say?
- 30:28Speaker 2: He's a, He wants to be a thermostat, not a thermometer.
- 30:32Speaker 2: Are you familiar with that one, Ed?
- 30:33Speaker 7: I am not familiar with that one.
- 30:34Speaker 2: Thermostat changes the temperature of the room. A thermometer rises
- 30:38Speaker 2: and falls to the level of the temperature that the
- 30:42Speaker 2: room is at.
- 30:43Speaker 7: Nicely done. I like it.
- 30:45Speaker 2: What are you? I could see.
- 30:46Speaker 1: Thermometer or thermostat?
- 30:47Speaker 7: I'd probably be a thermometer.
- 30:48Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:49Speaker 7: I'm going to stay on that end of things.
- 30:50Speaker 2: I think I am too.
- 30:51Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 30:51Speaker 7: I think I'm with you.
- 30:53Speaker 6: Whenever we come back, Double B and I will look
- 30:55Speaker 6: into Backo's Quick Six from Steelers.com. We are recapping Browns 27.
- 31:01Speaker 6: Steelers 24, another Thursday night loss here in week four.
- 31:05Speaker 7: But we're with you, Steeler Nation. That's why you're listening
- 31:07Speaker 7: to us.
- 31:08Speaker 6: We're pumping you back up, getting you ready for a
- 31:10Speaker 6: weekend here in southwestern Pennsylvania.
- 31:13Speaker 7: It's fall time.
- 31:14Speaker 6: It's football season, and look, the Steelers have a lot
- 31:16Speaker 6: of football left, so a lot to be determined, yet
- 31:19Speaker 6: they are 2-2 on the season.
- 31:21Speaker 7: I'm E.T.
- 31:22Speaker 2: He's B.B.
- 31:22Speaker 6: It's the Steelers Report here on Steelers Nation Radio. Steelers
- 31:26Speaker 6: Audio Network.
- 31:33Speaker 5: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Bacco and Ed
- 31:38Speaker 5: Truth on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 31:42Speaker 5: Audio Network.
- 31:44Speaker 7: Wrapping up our first hour here on the Steelers Report.
- 31:47Speaker 6: A handful of fans checked in with me early this morning,
- 31:50Speaker 6: Brian Bacco, to say, hey, how did that three touchdown
- 31:53Speaker 6: pick of the Steelers winning go? I actually texted you
- 31:58Speaker 6: yesterday after I said that here.
- 31:59Speaker 4: On the air.
- 32:00Speaker 1: You immediately regretted your decision.
- 32:02Speaker 6: I was like, maybe I should go use some radio
- 32:04Speaker 6: magic on the podcast version. Couldn't do anything with the
- 32:07Speaker 6: live version on the radio here. But on the podcast side,
- 32:11Speaker 6: you can always go back and edit that out.
- 32:13Speaker 1: But you know what?
- 32:14Speaker 7: Hey, I stood by it.
- 32:15Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 32:15Speaker 1: You're a man of integrity.
- 32:17Speaker 6: I think maybe I was just wishful thinking, obviously. But
- 32:20Speaker 6: I wanted to get that Thursday night thing out of Pittsburgh,
- 32:25Speaker 6: of the struggle on the road. Maybe just a struggle
- 32:28Speaker 6: on the road in general playing in Cleveland. I do
- 32:30Speaker 6: know one thing. I do not want to see when
- 32:32Speaker 6: next May of 2027 and beyond, when that schedule release
- 32:36Speaker 6: comes out, I do not want to see Cleveland on
- 32:39Speaker 6: a Thursday night in Cleveland.
- 32:40Speaker 7: Maybe here in Pittsburgh it would be different. I don't know.
- 32:42Speaker 6: Hopefully it would be. But Thursday night in Cleveland has
- 32:45Speaker 6: to go away. The NFL schedule folks have to throw
- 32:49Speaker 6: the Steelers a bone here, at least for the next
- 32:52Speaker 6: 10 years. Let's not have it on there.
- 32:54Speaker 2: No, see, I look at it more as a competitor.
- 32:55Speaker 2: Give me that smoke again. every streak is made to
- 32:59Speaker 2: be broken. Nothing lasts forever. I did at least predict
- 33:04Speaker 2: that it was going to be a close game, but
- 33:06Speaker 2: I was wrong predicting the Steelers to win. And I'm
- 33:08Speaker 2: now on a two game skid if you're keeping track
- 33:12Speaker 2: at home, because I also picked them to lose to
- 33:13Speaker 2: the Bengals. So yeah, I mean, it's a, it's a
- 33:16Speaker 2: two and two start, not necessarily the route that many
- 33:19Speaker 2: of us thought the Steelers would take to get to
- 33:21Speaker 2: two and two. I think you had them three and one,
- 33:24Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, there's still a long way to go.
- 33:26Speaker 2: in this season, you know, you know, going in that
- 33:29Speaker 2: it's tough to win on the road. It's tough to
- 33:31Speaker 2: win on the road in the division, but it just doesn't,
- 33:33Speaker 2: you know, that logical part of your brain never really
- 33:37Speaker 2: fires off when you're actually living through it. And you're
- 33:39Speaker 2: watching some of the, the plays go the Browns way.
- 33:43Speaker 6: Well, let's face it that second and third quarter, uh,
- 33:46Speaker 6: you know, that any Steeler fan or anyone covering this team,
- 33:49Speaker 6: you had to think to yourself, they don't deserve to
- 33:51Speaker 6: win this game the way they're playing. Now, give credit
- 33:54Speaker 6: on one hand, and I will give them credit. They
- 33:56Speaker 6: came back in the fourth quarter. They started getting things together.
- 33:59Speaker 6: Offense started to move the ball. Metcalf heated up. Rodgers
- 34:01Speaker 6: was in a rhythm. The defense was playing better. I mean,
- 34:04Speaker 6: they were right there at the end.
- 34:06Speaker 7: The game was tied, Brian. If they get a stop
- 34:08Speaker 7: on that last drive, they force overtime.
- 34:10Speaker 1: Who knows?
- 34:10Speaker 6: Maybe they pull this one out, and you look back
- 34:12Speaker 6: and say, wow, it was ugly, but they get the win.
- 34:15Speaker 7: They get the 3-1, but it didn't happen.
- 34:18Speaker 6: That second quarter, that sequence of those three straight scores
- 34:21Speaker 6: given up, You saw TJ Watt.
- 34:23Speaker 7: He was on the headset.
- 34:24Speaker 6: I don't know if you saw that from the press box.
- 34:26Speaker 6: We're guessing Patrick Graham, our defensive coach, about some communication issues.
- 34:31Speaker 7: I'm not sure.
- 34:32Speaker 2: I didn't go to TJ Watt. He was at the
- 34:33Speaker 2: podium after the game, as he tends to be. It's
- 34:36Speaker 2: usually either him or Cam Hayward come in to speak
- 34:38Speaker 2: for the defense. It's usually a good sign if it's
- 34:40Speaker 2: someone else because that means Derek Harmon had a podium
- 34:43Speaker 2: game like he did in week three or something like that.
- 34:47Speaker 2: Just the feel of being in the locker room afterward,
- 34:50Speaker 2: I think there were some I think there were some
- 34:52Speaker 2: tough conversations had as, as you would expect. And that
- 34:56Speaker 2: was a team that absolutely felt like they let one
- 34:59Speaker 2: get away.
- 35:00Speaker 1: You know, no, no excuse making really from anybody.
- 35:04Speaker 2: I think it can be a real growing moment because
- 35:08Speaker 2: young guys like Dalen Everett had to get up there
- 35:10Speaker 2: and face the music a little bit after that game.
- 35:12Speaker 2: First time really dealing with that sort of adversity for him.
- 35:16Speaker 2: You know, it's one that, can either make you better
- 35:21Speaker 2: or make you worse going forward. And I think this
- 35:25Speaker 2: is also just kind of a natural thing too, with
- 35:27Speaker 2: the new coaching staff, you know.
- 35:28Speaker 1: There's a lot of new faces pushing the buttons here.
- 35:30Speaker 2: I assume, you know, TJ Watt was talking to some
- 35:33Speaker 2: of those people when he's on the headset and there's
- 35:36Speaker 2: only one defensive coach back from last year and it's
- 35:38Speaker 2: Scott McCurley with the inside linebackers. So just ipso facto,
- 35:42Speaker 2: he was talking to some guys who's never really been
- 35:44Speaker 2: in that situation with other than the first three weeks
- 35:46Speaker 2: of the season and And yeah, I mean, I just
- 35:48Speaker 2: think that's a very organic thing. Like you're you're getting
- 35:52Speaker 2: to know Patrick Graham and Joe Witt Jr. And obviously
- 35:56Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy as the head coach. But for everybody on
- 35:59Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball to Aaron Rodgers is
- 36:02Speaker 2: re getting to know him, getting reacquainted with him. I
- 36:04Speaker 2: know they had a little, you know, back and forth
- 36:07Speaker 2: during the game, too, that Mike McCarthy didn't make much
- 36:10Speaker 2: of afterward. He's like, you know, when I first started
- 36:12Speaker 2: doing this, those conversations always stayed on the field. Now
- 36:15Speaker 2: there's 8 billion cameras everywhere, and as we know, you're
- 36:18Speaker 2: living in the Truman Show out there. So anything that
- 36:22Speaker 2: you say can and will be captured and go viral.
- 36:27Speaker 2: So I don't think it's a bad thing that there
- 36:30Speaker 2: were some heavy and weighty conversations happening with players and
- 36:35Speaker 2: coaches during and after that game, Ed. And from my perspective,
- 36:40Speaker 2: now that I'm in my role with Steelers.com and I'm
- 36:43Speaker 2: more like embedded with the team. You, you feel these
- 36:46Speaker 2: losses more, you feel the way disappointment more. And yeah,
- 36:51Speaker 2: I mean, it's just, it stinks, but there's a lot
- 36:54Speaker 2: of games ahead of them. And I think they're, they've
- 36:56Speaker 2: got guys in different new spots too, on both sides
- 36:59Speaker 2: of the ball. And I think they'll, they'll continue to
- 37:02Speaker 2: settle into those roles.
- 37:04Speaker 6: We talk about growing pains and that's what I was thinking.
- 37:07Speaker 6: What you just said with, with, some of the communication
- 37:09Speaker 6: between McCarthy and Rogers, and that goes back a while
- 37:12Speaker 6: to their Green Bay days, too. I mean, it's like
- 37:14Speaker 6: an old married couple, right? And then on the other side,
- 37:17Speaker 6: with T.J. Watt being on that headset, new coaching staff,
- 37:20Speaker 6: new coaches, as you said, Double B. So there is
- 37:22Speaker 6: going to be some hiccups along the way. There's going
- 37:24Speaker 6: to be some growing pains along the way. You just
- 37:26Speaker 6: hope that for the Steelers' sake and their record's sake
- 37:28Speaker 6: and these games' sake, that it doesn't result in losses.
- 37:31Speaker 6: And I don't think last night– the only communication issue
- 37:34Speaker 6: that I saw outside of all that was– and you
- 37:36Speaker 6: already alluded to it– was the Everett coverage play with Denzel, Boston.
- 37:40Speaker 2: There was a delay of game on that game-tying drive,
- 37:43Speaker 2: but obviously it didn't hurt them to the point of–
- 37:46Speaker 2: of not punching that in there how about the game
- 37:48Speaker 2: from the tight ends you know pat frowermuth and darnell
- 37:50Speaker 2: washington yeah coming up big those were good again great
- 37:53Speaker 2: catch by by washington and that was maybe roger's best
- 37:56Speaker 2: throw of the night because he had he had to
- 37:59Speaker 2: get on the move obviously i um disparaged his mobility
- 38:03Speaker 2: or lack thereof a little bit earlier in the show
- 38:04Speaker 2: but that show you know that play showed that still
- 38:07Speaker 2: at times he can really slide and and throw on
- 38:10Speaker 2: the run and you know threaded that in there to
- 38:13Speaker 2: washington i saw somebody online say it was behind him
- 38:14Speaker 2: i'm like but Where else are you going to put
- 38:16Speaker 2: the ball on that play? So that was good. And
- 38:20Speaker 2: Washington continues to be someone who is rising to the
- 38:23Speaker 2: occasion when his number is called. And I think that's
- 38:26Speaker 2: going to be the best MO for the Steelers offense
- 38:28Speaker 2: going forward. Roman Wilson did not play that many snaps.
- 38:32Speaker 1: Last night, Ed. Let me see what he finished with.
- 38:34Speaker 2: I think it was 21, 22, 31% of the snaps. Actually,
- 38:40Speaker 2: seven fewer than Jeremy Bernard. But it was a loud
- 38:43Speaker 2: 22 snaps from Roman Wilson when he was out there
- 38:46Speaker 2: He was effective in his role, and he gave this
- 38:48Speaker 2: team a different dynamic. I'm skipping ahead now to the
- 38:52Speaker 2: quick six, so maybe I should just stop.
- 38:54Speaker 7: I was going to say, pump the brakes, my friend.
- 38:56Speaker 7: Let's get the back of his quick six. He teased it.
- 38:59Speaker 7: You can call that a tease, though. You were teasing
- 39:00Speaker 7: your quick six.
- 39:01Speaker 6: So we'll see what you were just talking about if
- 39:03Speaker 6: you got into any of those. Let's start with your
- 39:05Speaker 6: first quick six from Steelers-Browns from last evening. Monster Metcalf,
- 39:10Speaker 6: and we already talked about this a bit, Big game
- 39:13Speaker 6: last night again for Metcalf.
- 39:14Speaker 7: And as you said, Brian, back-to-back games.
- 39:16Speaker 6: Now, touchdown last week against the Bengals and then over
- 39:19Speaker 6: 100 yards his first of the year last night against
- 39:21Speaker 6: the Browns.
- 39:22Speaker 2: And you could tell he was emotional. He didn't have
- 39:26Speaker 2: much to say about that after the game either. When
- 39:28Speaker 2: I stopped him, he just said it was an emotion.
- 39:30Speaker 2: divisional game. So that's all that was. But I know
- 39:33Speaker 2: there was a lot of talk before the season from
- 39:35Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers about how this is happy DK again. Last year,
- 39:38Speaker 2: he felt he saw like a little bit of angry DK.
- 39:42Speaker 2: I don't know which one's better. I don't know which
- 39:44Speaker 2: one you won on the field. I think you'd love
- 39:46Speaker 2: to have a guy who's, you know, upbeat and confident
- 39:50Speaker 2: but also someone who is you know we know his
- 39:52Speaker 2: play demeanor he's always been known as one of the
- 39:54Speaker 2: more intimidating imposing wide out since he stepped on the
- 39:58Speaker 2: field in the nfl so i think you'd you'd love
- 40:00Speaker 2: to have both um and we saw that last night
- 40:04Speaker 2: and especially down the stretch yeah no doubt in that
- 40:06Speaker 2: fourth quarter no one could cover him he hit another
- 40:08Speaker 2: gear he hit another gear in that fourth quarter and
- 40:10Speaker 2: you'd love to see that for all four quarters going
- 40:12Speaker 2: forward even that first catch that he had was great
- 40:14Speaker 2: utilization of dk it was just like what a quick
- 40:17Speaker 2: kind of screen type of thing and he took off
- 40:21Speaker 2: like a rocket once he got the ball in his hand.
- 40:22Speaker 6: So often when the Steelers throw behind the sticks, and
- 40:25Speaker 6: they've done it a lot over the years, you cringe,
- 40:27Speaker 6: but on that play behind the sticks, you're right. It
- 40:30Speaker 6: was like a bullet coming out of a gun, man. Boom,
- 40:32Speaker 6: he hit right upfield. He knew where the first down
- 40:34Speaker 6: marker was, and it almost looked like Darnell Washington in
- 40:36Speaker 6: open field.
- 40:37Speaker 7: No one wanted to tackle DK.
- 40:38Speaker 1: But moves a lot faster than Darnell. Oh, a lot.
- 40:41Speaker 2: Guys don't bounce off of him quite the same.
- 40:44Speaker 1: A lot faster, yep.
- 40:45Speaker 7: Your second is a hot.
- 40:47Speaker 2: They have yak guys on this team. So, you know,
- 40:49Speaker 2: Jalen Warren, DK, Darnell. I'll take my chances with the
- 40:54Speaker 2: ball in their hands, even if it does start behind
- 40:56Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage.
- 40:56Speaker 7: I agree with you. Double B up next, hot start.
- 41:00Speaker 1: Roman Wilson?
- 41:01Speaker 2: Yeah, Roman Wilson, like I said. I mean, he did
- 41:03Speaker 2: more with less last night in terms of his snap count.
- 41:05Speaker 2: I think if you just go back to the end
- 41:07Speaker 2: of that Bengals game, we were all sort of, or
- 41:09Speaker 2: not even the end, but, you know, right before halftime,
- 41:12Speaker 2: a lot of people wondering, is he still going to
- 41:14Speaker 2: be in good graces, or is there going to be
- 41:16Speaker 2: a little bit of doghouse here with the drop? No,
- 41:18Speaker 2: he was right back out there early in that game. Again,
- 41:21Speaker 2: didn't play a ton, but he made his presence felt
- 41:25Speaker 2: when he was there, and he does have a first
- 41:26Speaker 2: step and a burst and a quickness that is sort
- 41:29Speaker 2: of a unique club in the bag for this receiving core.
- 41:33Speaker 2: DK has it too, but Roman's a smaller, little shiftier guy,
- 41:38Speaker 2: and that was a nice play call there on the
- 41:41Speaker 2: little jet motion, and then the flip forward pass got
- 41:43Speaker 2: blocked up well, and It did. Roman's got the speed
- 41:46Speaker 2: to finish that.
- 41:47Speaker 6: Your next, let's see here, quick six is Rodgers reaches
- 41:52Speaker 6: last night.
- 41:53Speaker 7: A nice two-point conversion, your 42-year-old quarterback.
- 41:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 41:56Speaker 2: You know, that was, I guess it ended up being
- 41:58Speaker 2: a one-yard two-point conversion because there was the penalty.
- 42:01Speaker 7: Yeah, moved it up.
- 42:02Speaker 1: Right before it.
- 42:02Speaker 2: And talked to Zach Frazier about it afterward, and he's like, yeah,
- 42:07Speaker 2: we've had that option in there since last season when
- 42:10Speaker 2: I guess when they installed the Pittsburgh plunge, as I
- 42:12Speaker 2: call it. formerly the direct snap to connor hayward now
- 42:15Speaker 2: the direct snap to pat fryer muth but no tight
- 42:17Speaker 2: end needed on that one and i guess the way
- 42:19Speaker 2: it works is he gets to the line and if
- 42:21Speaker 2: roger sees what he wants to see he gives them
- 42:23Speaker 2: a little signal that means i'm keeping this one boys
- 42:26Speaker 2: and it was a little bit of mason.
- 42:28Speaker 1: Mccormick but it was also a lot of rogers.
- 42:29Speaker 2: Who pushed right through that d lineman uh who was
- 42:33Speaker 2: shaded to mccormick's shoulder there and he made sure he
- 42:36Speaker 2: picked up that one because remember they didn't convert a
- 42:39Speaker 2: two-pointer earlier and that was one that had zero chance
- 42:42Speaker 2: of working just dumped it off to war oh yeah
- 42:44Speaker 2: the browns defensive play call was simply ready for what
- 42:48Speaker 2: uh the steelers called in that situation so i guess
- 42:50Speaker 2: rogers figured hey we got the penalty let's not even
- 42:52Speaker 2: mess around with this one they don't think i'm gonna
- 42:55Speaker 2: keep it but i know i'm gonna keep it and
- 42:57Speaker 2: we're gonna get it and they did and it tied
- 42:59Speaker 2: the game.
- 42:59Speaker 7: Yeah rogers quickly into the end zone for the two.
- 43:02Speaker 2: And i think a lot of people just assume 42
- 43:04Speaker 2: years old he will never do that again in his
- 43:06Speaker 2: career yeah I don't know if he will ever do
- 43:08Speaker 2: that again in his career, but he did it in
- 43:10Speaker 2: that game. And it's a shame they didn't win, uh,
- 43:12Speaker 2: win the game as a result.
- 43:13Speaker 7: Next one. First one for the rookie and safety, Robert Spears.
- 43:17Speaker 1: Jennings gets his pick.
- 43:19Speaker 2: Uh, Dalen Everett nearly had PI, but, uh, good on
- 43:22Speaker 2: Jack Sawyer. That's, that's people helping people there in the
- 43:25Speaker 2: Steelers defense, a second year guy helping out a rookie
- 43:28Speaker 2: by getting a finger ever so slightly on that ball, man,
- 43:31Speaker 2: even on review, I'm like, zoom in, slow it down. Uh,
- 43:36Speaker 2: I guess he affected the trajectory of it, and Robert
- 43:39Speaker 2: Spears Jennings there to make the play. I got to
- 43:42Speaker 2: think that as much as he's seen live action on
- 43:46Speaker 2: special teams, it's not the same as playing coverage on defense,
- 43:49Speaker 2: but it probably at least helps you to be out
- 43:50Speaker 2: there and be at NFL game speed. This was a
- 43:53Speaker 2: seventh-round pick who the league kind of doubted him collectively,
- 43:58Speaker 2: but I thought the Steelers got a steal there out
- 44:00Speaker 2: of Oklahoma when they took him, and so far it
- 44:03Speaker 2: looks that way with the way he's been playing.
- 44:04Speaker 7: He looked good in camp. He looked good in preseason.
- 44:06Speaker 6: And so far, when he's gotten into the football games,
- 44:09Speaker 6: and last night was the most up to this point,
- 44:11Speaker 6: he's also done well.
- 44:12Speaker 7: Pressed into action, another rookie in Daylon Everett.
- 44:16Speaker 2: Yep. Everett, you know, some more ups and downs, I
- 44:19Speaker 2: would say. But now with Joey Porter Jr. officially out
- 44:22Speaker 2: the door and off to Dallas, it's going to be
- 44:25Speaker 2: a lot more Everett, a lot more Asante Samuel Jr.,
- 44:28Speaker 2: although he'd already been playing in Porter's spot, maybe more
- 44:31Speaker 2: Brandon Echols, Jamel Dean. We don't know what the prognosis
- 44:34Speaker 2: is for him sustaining that ankle injury last night, leaving
- 44:37Speaker 2: the game in a walking boot. He's been snakebitten by
- 44:41Speaker 2: injuries to this point in his NFL career, been really
- 44:44Speaker 2: good when healthy, but when healthy has always been the
- 44:46Speaker 2: qualifier with him.
- 44:48Speaker 6: One last one quickly. Harmon goes down to something we
- 44:51Speaker 6: haven't talked too much about.
- 44:52Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought they thought they missed Derek Harmon. And,
- 44:55Speaker 2: you know, why a black was we know he's more
- 44:57Speaker 2: of a run stuffer. That'd be awesome if he could
- 44:58Speaker 2: incorporate some more pass rush to his game, but he's
- 45:02Speaker 2: just such a large man that that's always going to
- 45:04Speaker 2: be a bit of a tough ask. And he had
- 45:06Speaker 2: to play more last night, Ed, and pull up the
- 45:09Speaker 2: snaps for the D lineman as well. It ended up
- 45:11Speaker 2: being Cam Hayward at 72%. Keanu Benton, 61%. He's been
- 45:16Speaker 2: quiet to this point in the year. He might be
- 45:18Speaker 2: winning some pass rushes that just for whatever reason isn't
- 45:21Speaker 2: getting home and showing up in the box score.
- 45:23Speaker 6: Y.A.
- 45:24Speaker 1: Black, 29 snaps, 45%.
- 45:24Speaker 2: And Sebastian Joseph Day, 23 snaps, 36%. And Y.A. Black
- 45:32Speaker 2: came in questionable. He drew the questionable tag Monday afternoon
- 45:36Speaker 2: while I was on my, not Monday, Thursday afternoon while
- 45:38Speaker 2: we were on our way up there for personal reasons.
- 45:41Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if he's dealing with anything. If
- 45:44Speaker 2: he is, you know, thoughts and prayers out to Y.A.
- 45:47Speaker 7: Black.
- 45:47Speaker 2: But yeah, he had more on his plate. Everybody did
- 45:49Speaker 2: without Harmon. And that was kind of a bummer for sure.
- 45:54Speaker 6: That's Backo's quick six after Steelers at Browns last night
- 45:58Speaker 6: on Thursday night. And again, you can log on to
- 46:00Speaker 6: Steelers.com to catch Backo's quick six, among other things that
- 46:04Speaker 6: Brian has up each and every day covering the Pittsburgh Steelers.
- 46:07Speaker 6: That's going to do it for our number one, but
- 46:09Speaker 6: we still have another hour in front of us coming
- 46:11Speaker 6: up next.
- 46:11Speaker 7: The Steelers after four games.
- 46:14Speaker 6: What's ahead? A fourth of the schedule in the books.
- 46:16Speaker 6: I don't count that 17th game, Brian Backo. I mean,
- 46:18Speaker 6: it counts, but not in the one fourth schedule. You'll
- 46:21Speaker 6: do a percentage. I'm sure you'll give me a percentage
- 46:23Speaker 6: when we come back. It's 33.3333% in.
- 46:26Speaker 7: I don't know, something like that. We'll get to that
- 46:28Speaker 7: and more. Ahmed, he's Brian.
- 46:30Speaker 6: You're listening to the Steelers Report here on Steelers Nation Radio,
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