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Is the NVIDIA DLSS 5 Backlash Warranted? · Boss Rush Podcast - A Podcast about Video Games

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  Hello everybody, welcome back to the Bosters Podcast, a great
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  place to play games and be better.
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  I'm one of your hosts, Corey Derrigan, alongside me, as
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  always, is the PC Muscle race himself.
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  We're on doc. Hey, what's poppin?
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  Hey Leron, did you apply DLSS 5 to yourself today because you're
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  looking extra realistic? Hey, no, it's all I'm all smooth
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  and and like highly sharpened and all this stuff.
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  What is? Yeah.
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  I'm like looking super washed out.
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  Yeah, that's fine there. Helps turn light off.
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  That's better. You turned it all the way off.
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  Man, that was like a stark contrast.
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  No, I, I I have three. I have 3 lights on and I turned
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  1 off. I mean, you're not blowing out
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  my retinas anymore with the with the brightness, but you know.
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  Also, I have two bright white tabs open and right in front of
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  me so that's probably something to do with it.
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  Like if I minimize them would that does that help at all?
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  A little something. Now you got OK, now you got.
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  Now you got some shadow. Now you're looking like.
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  Now you're looking like you got the Resident Evil filter on.
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  Yeah, oh man. Speaking of Resident Evil
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  people, people really loving that Resident Evil 9, huh?
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  Oh yeah? Well, yeah, I actually got to
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  play a little bit of it earlier this week.
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  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I like it.
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  I'm digging it. Cool, cool.
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  I'm here's the thing. I think I'm going to play
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  Resident Evil this year. I'm going to play them in order.
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  How many Resident evils have you played?
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  Because I've I feel like, I feel like you don't like scary games.
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  So I feel like it. You haven't played many.
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  I don't, but I have finished more Resident Evil games than I
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  thought I have. OK, I've finished.
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  I've finished one. The remake or the original?
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  The the game, the remake, the first round of remakes.
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  So one 4 Remake 4. 4 remake OK? 55 The Leon campaign in six.
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  See, I'll give you that because honestly, that is the longest
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  Resident Evil game out of all of them.
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  Yeah, there were three campaigns and it wasn't.
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  It was good, but not great, and I didn't really feel like
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  playing it anymore. Yeah, I'll.
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  Give you that. I'll give you that if you beat
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  one of the three campaigns, because for the most part, you
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  got enough of the story to know what was going on in Resident
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  Evil 6. Yeah, and then Revelations,
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  which was the 3DS game, but I played it on the Lu, so.
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  Yeah, you have beaten more Resident Evil games than I than
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  I thought you would have gotten credit.
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  For, yeah, but they're all the actiony ones.
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  Yeah, I mean, I mean, that wasn't, that wasn't hard.
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  Like once we got the four, like they've all been action until we
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  got the seven. Yeah, 7's the seven's the one
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  that I'm like, I don't know. That's I'm like, I don't know. 7
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  psychologically scars me and I haven't even played it.
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  Yeah, but I don't know, I I've heard good things about 9.
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  I here's the thing, I'm like really into the lore of Resident
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  Evil. I just don't want to.
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  I think, I think everybody's into the lore of Resident Evil.
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  Yeah, but, you know, I don't know.
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  I just. It's because it's crazy man.
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  I did watch the first movie. I think, I think, I think, I
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  think as gamers, we all, everyone was required to watch
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  the first movie after that, you know, like, you know, like you
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  didn't have to like there was no requirement to watch the rest of
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  them. I watched the rest of them as
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  well as I I love the Resident Evil like movie.
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  Like what? There's five of them.
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  Six of them. There's six.
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  So what is that? Hex?
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  Hex hexology or something? You know what, you can make up
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  words as long as you want to Lauren.
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  I don't I The thing though is they were so they were on
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  Netflix for a while when the show came out.
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  And so I watched the first 3 and then four wasn't on Netflix.
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  It skipped right to five and then 6 wasn't on there.
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  So I'm like, well, I don't want to.
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  I've I've invested this much time.
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  I don't want to skip one. Wait afterlife?
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  Wait, Afterlife wasn't on? Whatever the 4th 1 is.
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  That's Afterlife. Yeah.
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  So I don't know. I just didn't feel like
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  investing in it after that. I was like, I don't want to rent
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  it. I don't want to buy it anywhere.
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  Understandable. I'll just wait.
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  And then it never, never, never came to be So I They were fun,
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  though. I mean, they're more action
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  movies than. Yeah.
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  You know whatever the other the survive like horror movie ask.
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  Also the CG in the 1st movies like really bad especially the
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  laser scene. That scene so bad dude.
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  It's funny, it's comical, but it's bad.
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  Also like side tangent, why does Michelle Rodriguez play the same
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  character in every single movie she's in?
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  He's. She's the same character in
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  every movie. It's egregious how typecast she
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  is. Which is like, I kind of get it,
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  but also I kind of feel bad for her but.
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  Yeah, yeah. So if she doesn't care, then I
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  guess who might care? No, she's, she's trying her best
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  to, she's trying her best to like escape that and it's just,
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  it's just not going in her favor.
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  Yeah, that's true. That's true.
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  Because because she almost escaped in Avatar and then she
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  wound up dying in Avatar. So OK, yeah, she's she was the
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  bad ass. She was the bad ass marine pilot
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  the the helicopter pilot. I don't remember that movie
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  dude, it's been like 20 years. I know, I know.
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  It's good. I know for me, that's for me.
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  That's almost half my lifetime ago.
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  Oh, it's crazy, man. 20 years, that movie, I don't know.
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  I don't understand why it's so big, but that's seems like a
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  personal problem. I think it's, I think it's big
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  because of what? I think it's big because #1
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  like, you know, like we actually, there's a, I'm a James
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  Cameron fan. So like I will, I will admit
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  that, you know, like I definitely put a lot of hype and
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  you know, like whatever on to James Cameron and stuff like
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  that. You know, I feel like, I feel
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  like he's one, he's one of our great, one of our, one of our,
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  one of our great directors, you know, for like this, this era
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  and stuff like that. I'm not saying like he's the
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  best because you know that Christopher Nolan, even though
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  Christopher Nolan is kind of like having an ebb and flow
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  right now. And then, and then we, you know,
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  like, of course, like, you know, like people are going to say
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  Tarantino, but I feel like Tarantino's time is kind of kind
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  of gone, you know? He's apparently only got got one
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  more movie left in him. Yeah, and he keeps and he keeps
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  edging us along like and, you know, hold on.
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  Let me not let me not use that type of terminology on the on
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  the pod tonight. Sure.
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  Yeah. I mean, there are people out
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  there gooning for, for, for Tarantino.
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  Sure. Yeah, I get it.
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  You know, people like his movies, but also I don't really
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  care for most of them to be honest.
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  That's I guess that's my problem.
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  I've heard so. I like Tarantino up to a point
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  and I, and I think that point, I think that point ended right
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  after Inglorious Basterds and, and I don't even like Inglorious
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  Basterds. Yeah, I I see.
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  That's like the one movie I do like is that it's the, it's I
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  also like, I also like Django Unchained.
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  That was pretty good too. But anything else is like, I
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  don't know, man. Like Once Upon a time in
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  Hollywood was super boring. Did not care for that.
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  It was it wasn't it and and and it acted and it acted like he
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  was trying to go somewhere and it and it and it honestly
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  didn't. Yeah, so I don't know, man, it
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  was it was fine, but I'm just not a I'm just not a Tarantino
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  guy. So Speaking of movies though,
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  Spider Man, that's Spider Man trailer came out.
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  Yeah, that was that was hot. Chunks today I guess.
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  What does it look good? I didn't watch it, I just heard
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  it came out in like chunks and it was a really bad roll out.
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  I saw the, I saw the full thing. Like I, I it was on TikTok so I
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  saw the full thing. How was it?
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  Was it good? Like was it good or like?
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  It, it was good. It was good now.
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  And like it has like it gave just enough a way to make to, to
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  compel people to actually want to see it as far as I'm
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  concerned. OK well I heard they removed
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  Sadie sync from some of it though.
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  Exactly 1 of the some actress that's in there that people are
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  obsessed with. I don't know she was in stranger
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  things. I think the red haired girl in
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  stranger things I think is who it is.
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  That's the problem I haven't caught up on.
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  I haven't caught up on what you call it.
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  Dude I watched the first season and I was so bored.
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  I don't understand why people I like it's that shows just not
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  for me. I I don't understand it but
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  again just a me problem I guess. So I feel like I feel like I'm a
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  bad nerd when I say I don't like certain things but.
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  You probably are. I know I am.
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  I suck, it's a motto for my life.
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  Laron, I don't know if you know this or not I suck.
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  Signed off. Anyways, Laron, cool story.
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  Oh cool story bro. I updated the store for the
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  first time in three years. Two years?
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  Oh. Cool story bro.
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  Yeah, the Nintendo Padlock 10th Anniversary shirts are up.
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  Oh, I gotta check it out. Yeah, you know that.
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  You know that cool, cool Nintendo pile block logo we
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  have? Yeah, well, if you add a 10 to
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  that, that's what the 10th anniversary logo looks like.
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  Watch out now. You're dangerous.
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  Now I know. Speaking like a true graphic
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  designer in 2026, You know it would be awesome.
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  No graphics, just font. Plain font.
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  No graphics, just font. Yeah, it's every graphic
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  designer these days feels like. Yeah, yeah.
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  You're you're, you're not, you're not lying there.
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  So man, dude, it's just it makes me laugh when people are like,
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  we have a graphic and it's just like font that they're like, oh,
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  this letter, we cut the edges off.
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  That's it. You know, we put a slash through
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  the this letter so it looks different.
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  It's like does it just kind of looks like your printer ran out
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  of me? But no, not my problem.
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  Anyways, Lauren, we're here to talk about video games.
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  Actually, we're not. We're really not going to talk a
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  lot about video games tonight. We're going to talk about the
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  We're going to talk. About video game and Jason stuff
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  though. Yeah, we're going to.
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  We're going to talk about the the 2 letters everybody hates to
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  see together AI. Oh, that OK.
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  Oh no. I was really, I was really
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  scratching my head on that one. I was.
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  Like, huh, man. But before we get into that,
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  what are you? What are you playing?
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  What are you playing? Anything playing?
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  Anything new? No, no, and and, and honestly, I
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  slowed down just a little bit, which is which is wild for me.
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  I slowed down like I did play, I did play.
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  I did play enough Tekken 8 before, like the reset the the
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  season pass, the season pass season 3 dropped yesterday.
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  I haven't played. I haven't played any of it yet.
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  And also I know when I log in, I'm going to have been demoted
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  back four steps because they they do this, they do a rank
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  reset. But no, I didn't really have a
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  lot. I didn't really spend a lot of
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  time playing games this past week.
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  I did play. I did play tech and I was about
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  it. I, I didn't even monster run
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  stories came out and I think I, I think I mentioned last week on
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  the pod that I wasn't actually going to pick that up until,
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  until I actually until, until I actually beat Monster Run
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  stories 2. So yeah, I haven't gotten
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  monsters three stories 3 yet. And yeah, Front Mission is kind
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  of on premise, is kind of on pause because I just, I, I felt
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  I was burning myself out on it just playing it as heavily as I
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  did. You were playing it a lot.
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  I was. You were playing like you.
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  I mean, you were playing a. Lot of front yeah, yeah, I was
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  like I, I, I, I I logged a lot of hours onto a night and and
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  actually I need to get back on and just finish and finish and
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  and beat it. Yeah, you should probably just,
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  you should probably just finish it, man.
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  Yeah, yeah. Finish that, finish that, and
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  then go immediately go back to either Final Fantasy Tactics,
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  which I was playing before Front Mission 3 came out, or, or, or
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  just get back to Monster Stories 2, which the good thing is
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  Monster Stories 2, like I don't need to like start over from the
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  beginning 'cause I know where I'm at and the games and the
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  games easy to pick up and play. Yeah, I did buy the first one,
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  by the way, It was on sale. How?
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  How? How much?
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  It was like 799 on switch. Oh, the oh front mission.
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  I thought you were talking about Monster Stories.
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  No. Oh wait, you bought the double
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  pack for Monster Stories Two. You bought the one and two pack,
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  didn't you? No, I bought 2 when it came out.
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  Oh. OK, OK.
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  And then I bought one later that was Pat that bought the double
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  pack. Yeah, I did.
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  I, I, what was I saying? Oh yeah, It was like 799, the
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  first front mission. So I was like, I can't really
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  pass that up. It's a good deal.
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  So I was like, let's let's buy it, let's do it.
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  And I did. And it's great.
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  I haven't played it yet, but you know, it's great.
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  I'm going to go ahead and say it's great because I can and you
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  can't stop me. Can't stop, won't stop as they
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  say. I mean, I've been, I've been
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  playing some Metroid, but I've been playing a lot of I've been
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  playing a lot of marathon. It's it's I my opinion has
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  changed tremendously since the last time we talked about it,
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  which like the last time, was it the.
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  Last time it was the time. Before I said I liked it but
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  didn't love it. There was a point in the second
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  map, Dyer Marsh, when I loaded in and I decided to put my
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  headset on, which usually is a huge mistake and you know it.
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  In some cases it was a it was a mistake.
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  But this particular moment made me feel like the old online days
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  of like Xbox Live when you were playing Halo or something and
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  you would just meet random people and make friends and then
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  you would play together, right? Or like even the early days of
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  Destiny were like that discoverability where you were
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  working together with people online that you didn't know to
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  find certain things speaking. Speaking of which, Matt is in
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  the chat. That's how we met and.
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  Wait, you guys met? You guys met on Halo?
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  Destiny. Destiny.
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  OK. Yeah, and we like I I'm, I
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  started playing with these two dudes and they were like we were
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  just kind of exploring dire Martian, completing our
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  contracts together and and getting into firefights and
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  stuff. And it like really, really,
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  really reminded me of those old school moments in in Halo and
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  destiny. Like, you know, I was I was
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  using the kind of like the tank character.
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  I always forget the names of these shells, but like one of
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  one of the characters was down and I used my blast shield to
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  like shield both of them while they while one of them was
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  reviving the other. And then, you know, I hid hid
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  behind something to heal myself. And then we got in this
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  firefight as we entered the like this facility and it was just
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  like this really cool moment. You know, it wasn't like a huge
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  moment, but it was a cool moment.
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  And I really, I really think Marathon is going to be
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  something like special in a way that I feel like only Bungie
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  knows how to do do, which is weird since they haven't really
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  had an upswing in a while. But the the, the lore in the
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  story in the game, like the way you find it, like when you
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  complete contracts and stuff and you turn them in, you get little
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  cutscenes, little audio logs are strewn throughout the maps, the
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  different factions. It's so fun to learn about this
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  franchise that I like really only know of like, oh man,
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  marathon was, was a Mac shooter in the 90s, right?
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  You had to like obtain the story through terminals and you had to
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  read a lot. And it's like, why would you
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  want to play a shooter where you read on a Mac?
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  You know, so and it it it's just, it's really, it's really
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  fun to like learn about this franchise that has been dormant
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  for 30 years and they're continuing it like it's, it's a
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  straight on continuation of those old games.
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  And it's so cool to learn about those old games through this new
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  game in this new lens in these characters, in these factions.
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  And, you know, the generation ship that, you know, everyone
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  died and disappeared. And you're going like you're the
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  the runners are shells are, you know, kind of husks, kind of
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  like Avatar, right? Where like you're kind of
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  controlling these shells to go down to the planet because it's
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  toxic to go find remnants for these corporations who sent
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  things on this generation ship. And they're looking for anything
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  they can possibly bring back to scrounge up any money they lost.
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  Sending stuff, you know, typical corporate stuff.
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  And it's just really fun. It's I, I did not think that
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  marathon was going to grab its like get its hooks in me, but
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  it's, it's gotten its hooks in it in me hard.
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  Like it's, I love like, I, I love playing by myself and just
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  going down and exploring and finding things.
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  You know, people yell, people yelled at me online because
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  they're like, it's a rogue like, I'm like.
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  I guess by the very technical term, yes, but it's a shooter,
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  it's a PVPVE shooter, you know, like, and all the guns that I've
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  found have feel fantastic. I mean it's it's a bungee game,
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  so it's going to feel fantastic. So I don't.
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  I don't know if roguelike. I don't know if roguelike quite
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  is the way to classify it. I mean, it's a, it's an
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  extraction shooter, you know, if you die.
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  It's an extraction shooter. Yeah, you die.
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  You lose your stuff, you know, if you escape, you get to keep
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  your stuff. I mean, that's, that's, you
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  know, it's the dark stuff from The Division.
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  Yeah, so in my opinion, that's not really a rogue like.
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  I mean like it's it's this is more of an actions have
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  consequences game. Yeah.
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  And so the the final map unlocked, but like there's like
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  a map within the map. The cryo, what is it called?
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  The cryo something. But essentially it's like a
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  Destiny raid within a map and you have to go in and like
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  decrypt keys and fend off enemies and solve puzzles and
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  stuff to get all the best loot. That's all in this kind of
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  building in the center of the map, which in of itself is like
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  this huge map. So I don't know, man, it's, it's
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  super cool. I there's, there's going to be
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  so many secrets being found throughout the, the, you know,
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  the life of this game. Hopefully, hopefully I, I don't
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  think it's going to die, but like, you know, people are so
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  doom and gloom. So like, I'm just going to say,
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  hopefully it survives long enough for them to see their
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  vision because their vision. This feels like the game that
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  Bungie has wanted to make for five years.
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  And like, because they are tired of Destiny, you know, like, and,
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  and I'm not saying everybody's tired of Destiny, but like, it
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  just feels like so much time and passion went into building out
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  Marathon. And you can feel it, you know,
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  you can feel like this is something new and fresh and
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  something we haven't been working on since 2008, you know?
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  Yeah. Yeah, I don't think.
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  I don't think Marathon's gonna die.
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  At least Marathon's not gonna die the way they they people
• 22:32
  were acting like it was gonna die like 2 weeks ago.
• 22:34
  Yeah, well, people, people like to, people like to hate online.
• 22:41
  Yeah. So, but that's that's marathon.
• 22:45
  Yeah, they're a bunch of bitches.
• 22:47
  We're. Gonna we're gonna do a whole
• 22:52
  something on tower casuals this week, so it'll be out by the
• 22:56
  time you hear this on podcast services.
• 22:58
  But we're going to talk about our impressions because that I
• 23:01
  don't think that final area has even opened up yet.
• 23:04
  Or if it has, it's been, you know.
• 23:06
  It hasn't. It hasn't.
• 23:07
  And honestly, that's what's that's I want to play this game
• 23:11
  once that comes out, because then that's what I'm going to
• 23:13
  base my review on. Yeah, but you like The thing is,
• 23:17
  is like you can't access the next map until you hit certain
• 23:20
  levels like. Oh, so I need to play it.
• 23:23
  Yeah, so like the like you have to play through the tutorial
• 23:28
  like the the tutorial map 1st which is perimeter and then a
• 23:33
  second version of perimeter opens up.
• 23:35
  And then once you hit level 12, you can go to Dire Marsh and
• 23:39
  then once you hit, I think it's like level 25, you can access
• 23:43
  the the final map. OK, I I guess I'll have to mess
• 23:47
  around with it then. You should.
• 23:49
  It's fun. You should play with me.
• 23:52
  We'll get, we'll get on one. We'll get on one of these
• 23:53
  nights, Yeah. We'll shoot stuff.
• 23:58
  Yeah, I've been one. I've been one to play.
• 23:59
  I've been one to play a game in your lane.
• 24:01
  And I know I kind of let you down on Destiny, but that by the
• 24:03
  time, by the time I got started downloading like the stuff for
• 24:06
  Destiny, I was like, man, there's just way too much.
• 24:08
  It's just too daunting right now.
• 24:09
  It's like, it's like if I wanted to play Final Fantasy 14 right
• 24:13
  now. Yeah, but at least you can start
• 24:18
  at the beginning in Final Fantasy 14.
• 24:20
  Fantasy 14, yeah. As a matter of fact, I think
• 24:22
  there's like this crazy ass free trial going on to where like you
• 24:25
  can basically play like. You can play like the first two
• 24:28
  expansions, like all the way through for free, yeah.
• 24:31
  Yeah, before you have to pay, before you have to start paying.
• 24:34
  Yeah, I mean, there's, there are some limits, but like overall,
• 24:37
  yeah, it's like if you just want to play the story, you can like,
• 24:43
  but yeah, I mean, I've been so I've actually been thinking
• 24:46
  about after I after I'd played Marathon, I jumped back into
• 24:51
  Destiny a little bit just to like kind of see what was going
• 24:55
  on. And I talked about this on Pal
• 24:56
  Black a little bit yesterday. But like with the deluxe edition
• 25:02
  of Marathon, you get access to stuff in Destiny.
• 25:05
  Like you get a Marathon themed ghost and ship and you know,
• 25:10
  Sparrow, those sorts of things. But like I, I went in the tower
• 25:12
  to collect my stuff and then I just sat in there and watched
• 25:15
  people run around doing their tasks and everything, right?
• 25:18
  I, I didn't, I, I was working on something first of all, but also
• 25:22
  like I'm so deep into the destiny stuff, right?
• 25:29
  That like sometimes you don't see the forest through the
• 25:32
  trees, right? Yeah.
• 25:35
  I'm just watching people running around, you know, turning in
• 25:38
  their bounties, running over to Zavala to pick up stuff, you
• 25:42
  know, going over to the Crucible stuff to get their weapons and,
• 25:46
  and turning in their engrams and whatever.
• 25:48
  And, and I'm like, I wonder how many of these people even know
• 25:52
  anything about the situation that has been going on at Bungie
• 25:57
  the last two years. I wonder how many of these
• 25:59
  people are just here because they want to play a game and
• 26:03
  they're having fun and they just want to like, you know, shoot
• 26:07
  stuff or grind for stuff or whatever and don't listen to
• 26:11
  anything that's going on outside of this game.
• 26:14
  You're so blessed. They are so blessed.
• 26:16
  And I'm just like sitting there watching people like do dance
• 26:20
  emotes with each other and like, you know, I saw, you know, I see
• 26:23
  people running together as like a fire team essentially.
• 26:26
  And it's just like, man, what is we?
• 26:31
  I feel like we are just so jaded by being so into all this stuff
• 26:36
  and it's like, man, sometimes I wish I was just oblivious to
• 26:39
  everything. Yeah, I know.
• 26:40
  I just, I, I, I don't, I don't even know if I missed those
• 26:47
  days. I don't even, I don't even know
• 26:48
  what those days are like, you know?
• 26:50
  Yeah, it's, I mean, I haven't, I have an idea, but I don't, I
• 26:55
  don't think, I don't think I can ever get that joy back that I
• 26:59
  had like back then, you know, like, like, you know, once, once
• 27:04
  you learn how the sausage is made, it's there's no going
• 27:07
  back. Yeah, it it just really feels
• 27:10
  like there's no going back and it sucks because there's like a
• 27:12
  lot of cool things that I would love to like go try in Destiny,
• 27:19
  but it's been so it's just been it's just been so a negative for
• 27:29
  so long that like dude, every time I open up YouTube, also
• 27:33
  like I fall on enough Destiny creators and like every time
• 27:38
  their thumbnails pop up, it's like Destiny's dead.
• 27:42
  Will Destiny ever come back? Will they finish Destiny?
• 27:44
  Will Bungie? It's like, come on, guys.
• 27:46
  Like just shut up. I get like, content creation is
• 27:50
  your job, but like, it sucks that we we reward the negative
• 27:54
  people, yeah. Yeah, and you know what, I feel
• 27:56
  like this trend is going to end. We just don't know when that
• 27:59
  trend is going to end because like right now, right?
• 28:02
  And and, and it's, it's, it's sucks because it sucks because
• 28:06
  like YouTube and YouTube and you know, like all the other
• 28:12
  streaming platforms all the way up to Twit, all the way up the
• 28:14
  to TikTok. I mean, because Twitch, Twitch
• 28:17
  still, I mean the let's talks, I feel like the let's talk
• 28:20
  environment of of Twitch is kind of dead, Not maybe not kind of
• 28:23
  dead, maybe just dead dead. Just the Just Chatting stuff is
• 28:27
  like the biggest thing on Twitch.
• 28:30
  Is this still going on because I swear every time I log on to
• 28:32
  twitch like it's I don't see just chats.
• 28:35
  There's three, there's like 3 separate things now where it's
• 28:39
  like just chatting and then there's talk shows and then
• 28:41
  there's podcasts and then there's like Q&A, you know, and,
• 28:47
  and it's like, why, why aren't these all in just like the same
• 28:51
  category? You know?
• 28:53
  I don't know which it's, I don't know.
• 28:56
  From the things I'm hearing about Twitch though, it's like,
• 28:58
  boy, I know some people who work over at AWS and they're like, we
• 29:07
  don't even know how this place is still open.
• 29:08
  It's like, oh jeez, which sucks because I actually know people
• 29:15
  that work at twitch too and it's like, oh sorry guys, I hope this
• 29:18
  isn't going to affect you. Anyways.
• 29:24
  It it's crazy too how YouTube streaming has kind of gotten
• 29:27
  bigger over the last year and a half without even really trying.
• 29:32
  And they were like when they were trying.
• 29:35
  It was like, I don't know, I feel like when these companies
• 29:38
  start not to try is when they start becoming bigger and then
• 29:41
  when they start trying is when things start falling apart in
• 29:45
  some cases. So oh boy, live streaming.
• 29:53
  What a what a what a great, what a great technology, Laurent, let
• 29:59
  me tell you, I was. Going to say where are you about
• 30:01
  to go with this because we're live streaming right now we're
• 30:03
  we're. I, I, I, I love live streaming.
• 30:07
  I love doing stuff like this, you know, I wish, I wish there
• 30:10
  was more time to do more and different types of stuff, but
• 30:14
  it's no time. See that that's, that's crazy
• 30:17
  because like, if we had a if, if we had a 26 hour day, Corey
• 30:20
  would use those extra 2 hours just to stream.
• 30:23
  I mean, I would I'd do all sorts of things that's not important
• 30:34
  anyways. Let's you know what is
• 30:36
  important. It it, it's Speaking of negative
• 30:38
  Le Ron, I I need I, I texted you what yes 2 days ago about this
• 30:46
  NVIDIA DLSS 5 stuff. Yeah, it was 2 days ago.
• 30:50
  It was 2 days ago. Yeah, I.
• 30:51
  Saw some of the NVIDIA keynote and I was like man this is cool.
• 30:57
  This is like this. I'm like man, this stuff looks
• 31:00
  awesome. And like they were showing off.
• 31:02
  There was like a a video that was going around that was like a
• 31:05
  minute and 1/2 or whatever afterwards and it was showing
• 31:08
  off Resident Evil 9. And there's some other stuff
• 31:13
  going on, but like the FIFA stuff that they showed at the
• 31:16
  end of the trailer. I was like, I thought they were
• 31:18
  transitioning from game to real person to game.
• 31:23
  Yeah, but it was all the game. And I was like, Oh my gosh, this
• 31:26
  is so impressive. And then I'm like, I'm like, I
• 31:30
  want to see more. I want to see more.
• 31:31
  So I did the dumb thing instead of going to like the NVIDIA
• 31:36
  video or the NVIDIA website or whatever and I went on Twitter
• 31:43
  and all I see is like a dumpster fire of memes going down like
• 31:47
  everybody hating this and. Calling it AI slop all this
• 31:50
  bullshit. I know I'm like, how can you
• 31:52
  say, like, I understand you don't want AI in games and I
• 31:55
  understand like you don't want AI to make games, but this is
• 31:58
  like really impressive. And it's going to, it's going to
• 32:01
  make consoles cheaper. It's going to make your hardware
• 32:03
  for PCs cheaper. You know, like, you know, in the
• 32:08
  long mid to long term, not right now, obviously, because of all
• 32:11
  the garbage RAM stuff that's going on.
• 32:14
  But like, you know, you get your games are going to come out
• 32:19
  faster, you know, because that's what everybody complaints about
• 32:22
  was it took five or eight years to make a sequel to The Last of
• 32:26
  Us. And like, also it's going to
• 32:32
  help underpowered systems like the Steam Deck and the Switch
• 32:36
  too. Yeah, I mean, we're already
• 32:39
  seeing it on the Switch 2. On the switch two, yeah.
• 32:42
  Resident Evil 9, that game runs at 360 P by the way.
• 32:47
  Did you know that? I did not know that.
• 32:49
  But with DLSS it upscales to 1080P.
• 32:55
  What? Yep.
• 32:56
  What? Yep.
• 32:59
  See, I didn't know that because I was not paying that much
• 33:01
  attention. To, I know, but nobody you
• 33:03
  wouldn't notice. That's the point, you know.
• 33:07
  Yeah. So like, it's just incredible
• 33:11
  what this technology is doing, you know, like I would love this
• 33:15
  to upscale every single game like this.
• 33:17
  I had. I had.
• 33:18
  No, I had no freaking clue because I wasn't like my
• 33:22
  attention was not in that lane. Well, you're not a Nintendo
• 33:25
  person, so you're not really paying attention to that lane,
• 33:27
  you know? True, but true.
• 33:29
  But at the same time, I, I work in tech, so like I'm supposed to
• 33:33
  know this stuff and, and yeah. And yeah, you know what?
• 33:36
  I it's not so much a, it's not so much a bias or, or, or
• 33:39
  unbiased or whatnot, but there are, there are circumstances and
• 33:43
  situations where it's like it, it's, it's, it's it, you know,
• 33:48
  as an IT guy, you know, like, like, yeah, like one of my blind
• 33:52
  spots is, is, is, is Mac is, is Mac in iOS?
• 33:56
  It's because like, I don't, it's because I don't swim in that
• 33:59
  environment. You know, just like, I just
• 34:02
  like, you know, like I like Nintendo games.
• 34:05
  I like games that are on Nintendo systems, but I don't
• 34:07
  swim in that environment. Yeah, it's and you know, Ed and
• 34:13
  I were talking about this yesterday a little bit of like,
• 34:16
  you know, if they can do this as Resident Evil, what is something
• 34:19
  like what would like Monster Hunter look like on this
• 34:22
  theoretically, you know, like what would they run that I.
• 34:25
  Feel like I feel like Monster Hunter Wilds can play on the
• 34:28
  switch too. It should be able to play on the
• 34:30
  switch too. It should be able to and
• 34:32
  especially now, because like now the PC Pat, now the PC the I'm
• 34:37
  going to call it the PC performance patch, even though
• 34:38
  like technically it's not the PC performance patch.
• 34:40
  It is. They're basically fixing the PC,
• 34:43
  the PC stuff with with Monster Hunter Wilds.
• 34:47
  I can play monster in the Wilds on the rock LAX now.
• 34:50
  That was, that was not, that was, that was not something I
• 34:52
  was trying to entertain at all when it first launched.
• 34:55
  Yeah, it's, it's just amazing to see this because like this could
• 35:05
  be the point where we've we've been we've been hitting
• 35:11
  graphical fidelities out of diminishing returns for a long
• 35:13
  time, right? Like we've been talking about
• 35:14
  that for since the essentially the end of the PS3 era all the
• 35:18
  way up to the launch of the the current generation.
• 35:20
  Yeah. And really the only console that
• 35:24
  has had any noticeable graphical differences is Nintendo.
• 35:28
  And that's because they didn't run in HD for, you know, a
• 35:31
  generation and 1/2 until the renew came out.
• 35:37
  And like this could be the next kind of evolution of graphical
• 35:43
  fidelity that people, you know, the, the average consumer would
• 35:49
  want, you know, like I, I really feel like the average consumer,
• 35:55
  the average gamer still judges consoles, at least on graphical
• 35:59
  fidelity, right? How good does it look?
• 36:02
  You know, how amazing would this game look on a four KTV, which,
• 36:07
  you know, they've they've come out and said that final square
• 36:11
  came out and said that, you know, only about 20% of the
• 36:15
  people played rebirth on performance mode.
• 36:19
  They're playing, you know, in quality mode because people want
• 36:22
  to see these games on in 4K with the ray tracing and all these
• 36:26
  other features. You know, I wish I was frame
• 36:32
  rate blind like some people I used to be.
• 36:35
  And then you experience 60 frames a second in a like a
• 36:39
  normal game and you're like oh man, I'm screwed.
• 36:42
  Yeah, I'm one of those people. 60 frames per second is.
• 36:44
  The is the bare minimum. Yeah.
• 36:48
  And like, you know, Destiny PvP and marathon run at 1:20 and
• 36:51
  it's like, Oh my gosh. Like this is like, smooth.
• 36:54
  This is so smooth. Smooth.
• 36:57
  Like. Butter.
• 37:00
  So I don't know what do you, how do you feel about the the DLSS 5
• 37:05
  stuff? OK, OK, so I am, I am definitely
• 37:09
  5050 on this. I like the innovation.
• 37:12
  I I like it, but at the same time I feel like I feel like it
• 37:17
  over does it, if that makes any sense.
• 37:20
  And it's mainly, it's mainly when we actually concentrate on
• 37:23
  the actual, on the actual, like the characters themselves, you
• 37:26
  know, so like that the background, the background
• 37:28
  upscaling cause dynamic. Why do I always forget what the
• 37:34
  L stands for? But it's dynamic, something
• 37:35
  super sampling. Basically, it's using, it's
• 37:38
  using genre, it's using genre of AI before genre of AI became
• 37:43
  like a, you know, like a, a bastion in our, in our
• 37:46
  vocabulary. It was using this to help to
• 37:49
  help inferior hardware actually make games seem more like up the
• 37:56
  up the snuff with with with current technology and stuff
• 38:00
  like that. You know, it was actually just
• 38:02
  imagine, just imagine taking the PS2 game and making it look like
• 38:05
  it's APS 4 game. You know, it was using, it was
• 38:09
  using, it was using deep learning, super sampling, there
• 38:12
  we go. It was basically using a form of
• 38:14
  inbuilt AI to actually like, to actually like pre, not just to
• 38:19
  pre render images and stuff like that.
• 38:21
  So you know, like they, they're actually loaded more textures
• 38:25
  and everything is loaded. There's more quality basically.
• 38:27
  That's why there's like we look at DLSS, there's 4 versions
• 38:29
  DLSS, there's, there's, there's performance, there's quality.
• 38:33
  And I can't, I can't remember the other two, but yeah, there's
• 38:35
  four versions of DLSS that you can, that you can set if you
• 38:38
  have DLSS capable thing, just like there's four different
• 38:41
  versions of FSR, which is AM DS. Oh my God, Why am I?
• 38:47
  Why do I always forget when it's time for me to talk?
• 38:49
  I always forget what all these acronyms stand for, You know,
• 38:52
  like it. I know I, I, I, I just sound
• 38:54
  like a really shitty, like, like, like like IT person
• 38:57
  sometimes, you know, but yeah, but FSR is, is is not up to
• 39:03
  snuff where DLS. Well, FSR is not the snuff where
• 39:05
  DLSS is, even though FSR does a very good job because, because
• 39:09
  the one thing that FSR cannot do that, you know, DLSSDLS works in
• 39:14
  combination with is ray tracing. If you have a, if you have an
• 39:17
  RTX 30 series or higher graphics card, Yeah, yeah.
• 39:22
  But yeah, going back to DLS is 5, it looks nice now.
• 39:27
  I think the problem is it, it, it, it, it does, it does too
• 39:31
  much. You know, when we start looking
• 39:33
  at what it does for like the character designs and stuff like
• 39:35
  that, because, because I kid you not, like honestly, honestly,
• 39:40
  like the RE-9 stuff, for example, in DLSDLS S5 looks
• 39:44
  stunning. But then we got to Starfield and
• 39:46
  I'm like, oh, I feel like they kind of it kind of it kind of
• 39:51
  put a bad spotlight on, on the character designs from from
• 39:55
  Starfield. You know, also the the thing
• 39:59
  from the Harry Potter game, like, you know, when it showed
• 40:01
  like the old lady with that, you know, working the spell and
• 40:04
  stuff like that, I was like, oh, they did too much for they did
• 40:06
  too much for that, you know. And I think that's what
• 40:09
  everybody looked at. They didn't, they didn't pay
• 40:11
  attention to the background because like you like when you
• 40:13
  watch the Digital Foundry video and they show what's going on in
• 40:16
  the background behind the characters.
• 40:18
  Yeah, it yeah, it's another uplift.
• 40:22
  And this is what we want to see. We want to see graphical
• 40:25
  fidelity like increasing and without costing us more money,
• 40:30
  you know, because like if we just talked about from a
• 40:32
  computer standpoint, right, you know, from, from like PC master
• 40:36
  race perspective, graphics cards are graphics cards are more
• 40:40
  expensive than your entire machine put together.
• 40:44
  You know, and this is also going to trickle down to consoles.
• 40:48
  As a matter of fact, we talked about last week about the price
• 40:51
  of like the, the, the project Helix versus the, the Steam
• 40:54
  Machine versus the PlayStation 6.
• 40:56
  The PlayStation 6 is looking like, looking like the bargain,
• 41:00
  you know, especially if when you look at the specs like, you
• 41:04
  know, like they all look like they're going to do the same
• 41:06
  thing they all do. Like like 1's going to edge out
• 41:09
  the other in one point where another one's going to edge out
• 41:11
  the other one in this point and and the and the other one's
• 41:13
  going to be like, oh, I'm just perfectly balanced.
• 41:16
  Perfectly balanced. If that if that even means such
• 41:21
  a thing, right. But now.
• 41:22
  But yeah, we're going to, it's going, it's going to happen.
• 41:25
  And, you know, like, once again, like that, you know, like
• 41:28
  everybody's going to be fighting about like, Oh, well, this is
• 41:31
  the brightest and all this stuff.
• 41:34
  I but like I said, I'm 5050 on it because like, you know, for
• 41:37
  every for every pro that I saw, you know, and this is, this is
• 41:41
  just everything that I cheered about DLSS 5, there was an equal
• 41:44
  amount of things that was like, oh man, like you got some work
• 41:48
  to do, you know, and, and, and NVIDIA does a phenomenal job
• 41:52
  working magic on this stuff. I mean, look at look at the DLSS
• 41:56
  technology that's been helping out the switch too.
• 41:59
  Yeah, that's DLSS. But the ladies and gentlemen,
• 42:02
  you, you guys, just because they don't say it in the in the
• 42:06
  language when you hear them talk about Switch games, it's DLSS
• 42:09
  because in NVIDIA, NVIDIA houses the Tegra chip, the Tegra.
• 42:14
  What is it? Isn't that even like what is it
• 42:15
  Like the two What? What was that?
• 42:17
  Chip, it's a custom. The switch to is based off of
• 42:21
  the off of the custom Tegra 2X. Yeah, I want to say.
• 42:28
  Yeah, that's right. That's right.
• 42:30
  I knew it was 2. I just couldn't remember what
• 42:31
  what nomenclature was after the two and stuff like that.
• 42:35
  But yeah, but yeah. And, and the one thing they
• 42:38
  boasted back when it was even just like rumor was that it was
• 42:42
  going to have DLSS technology behind it.
• 42:45
  And anyone who knows anything about gaming knows that DLSS is
• 42:48
  definitely what you want. DLS makes your makes makes
• 42:51
  potato games look like masterpieces.
• 42:56
  Potato games? That's funny.
• 42:59
  It does. It does.
• 43:00
  I know it's just, it's funny. That's it's just funny When when
• 43:06
  you said that, it just made me laugh.
• 43:11
  It makes it makes it DLSS, makes Laura Croft in Tomb Raider one
• 43:18
  look like how we thought she was supposed to look.
• 43:22
  You know what I mean? Yeah, well.
• 43:27
  No more. No more pointy triangles on her
• 43:30
  chest. Oh God.
• 43:34
  Right. Can you imagine?
• 43:36
  Can you imagine we loaded the original Tomb Raider from PS1?
• 43:39
  Let DLS us it would make It would make her look like
• 43:44
  freaking. It'd probably make her look like
• 43:47
  Bayonetta. Yeah, I mean here here's the
• 43:53
  thing. Not not everything from these
• 43:55
  are going to be perfect, right? Like, you know, obviously people
• 43:59
  were like doing their whole, you know, making everything, even
• 44:06
  cartoony stuff look realistic with this kind of joke now,
• 44:10
  right. But it's like, I don't, I don't,
• 44:14
  I don't know, man. I, I feel like I, I still feel
• 44:18
  like there is AI still feel like there's some sort of bugs to
• 44:27
  work out for sure. But I still feel that when they
• 44:31
  showed off like the Resident Evil stuff, I was like, man,
• 44:33
  that looks like I that game already looks, yeah, that game
• 44:37
  already looks amazing. But like, man, this, this like
• 44:40
  looks even better, you know, like.
• 44:44
  Yeah, the Resident Evil stuff looked amazing.
• 44:46
  I'm I'm, I'm, I'm just going to say it.
• 44:48
  It looked amazing. And, and, and, and it's crazy
• 44:51
  because Resident Resident Evil 9 was already impressive and just,
• 44:54
  and basically all they did, I, I, I was listening, like I said,
• 44:59
  I was listening to the Digital Foundry thing.
• 45:01
  And the guy was just like, the guy was just like, you know,
• 45:03
  like it removed, like the, IT removed what, what they called
• 45:07
  the Capcom face. And I was like, I was like, when
• 45:10
  you say it like that, you know, now it makes it seem like, you
• 45:12
  know, like it's like, it just did a disservice to like the
• 45:15
  whole thing. But yeah, he's right.
• 45:18
  He's right though, the wrestling I want to say when Resident Evil
• 45:23
  4 came out Resident Evil 4 like set the set the standard for
• 45:27
  what like the character models are going to look like and it's
• 45:30
  kind of stayed that way. You can see you can see how it
• 45:33
  all it even like it even like ran itself back to the Resident
• 45:36
  Evil 1 remake. You know when when the.
• 45:39
  The only the only character they can't decide what they want to
• 45:41
  look like is Chris. I know, I know one, I know he's
• 45:46
  skinny. He's skinny in one of these.
• 45:47
  He's he's he's he's he's he's like, he looks like he's on like
• 45:51
  he's looks like he's on the T version of the steroids.
• 45:54
  The T virus version of the steroids at other points is
• 45:56
  like. Yeah.
• 45:57
  And then in eight, he looks like a retired NFL linebacker that
• 46:00
  like, doesn't know how to stop working out.
• 46:02
  And it's like what? Yeah, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't
• 46:05
  be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised that we
• 46:07
  find out that, you know, like he was using some type of like
• 46:10
  strain of, of the T virus 'cause you know, you can't use the G
• 46:12
  virus and the G virus is like, is like, is like meth on meth on
• 46:17
  crack. Yeah, it's, it's something,
• 46:24
  yeah. I and then like I, I can't stop
• 46:27
  thinking about the FIFA stuff either because like the the
• 46:30
  lighting from this, that was impressive, dude.
• 46:33
  The FIFA stuff, like the lighting on the jerseys, the
• 46:35
  fabric, like the the movements, like the the essentially like
• 46:42
  the the lighting effects was just it was amazing.
• 46:44
  It was really something incredible, right.
• 46:47
  And like, you know, Sony just released PSSR 2, which is, you
• 46:51
  know, apparently a major upgrade over PSSR one which, you know,
• 46:57
  there's a lot of games that try to utilize PSSR 2IN it or one
• 47:01
  and like the the base PS 5 looks better than the PS-5 Pro.
• 47:06
  Yeah, I, I, I was thrown by that.
• 47:09
  I was thrown by that because I was like, you have a situation
• 47:11
  here where inferior software is actually outdoing like the, the,
• 47:16
  you know, like the, the benchmark right now, you know?
• 47:20
  Yeah, I think I just think there are too few, too few people who
• 47:27
  care. Like I think there's just too
• 47:29
  few people that would make it matter to them.
• 47:31
  And that the PS-5, this whole generation for PlayStation just
• 47:35
  feels like an experiment essentially.
• 47:38
  You know, like with backwards compatibility, the this PSSR
• 47:45
  stuff. Like I kind of think whatever
• 47:49
  the next PlayStation is going to be, whether it's this
• 47:52
  PlayStation 6 or they just name it PlayStation or whatever, like
• 47:57
  I just feel like that that's going to be the console, you
• 48:00
  know, this, this feels like this feels this kind of feels like,
• 48:05
  remember when we jumped from like the guitar to the NES,
• 48:08
  right? And like some of the games look
• 48:10
  great. Some games don't.
• 48:11
  Some games run awesome, some games don't.
• 48:14
  But then you get into like the Super Nintendo and the Game Boy
• 48:18
  Advance era of pixel art and it's like, this is perfect.
• 48:22
  I don't want anything else ever in 2D, right?
• 48:25
  Like, I feel like we're in that NES stage of, you know, the 4K
• 48:32
  HDAI Bray tracing era. And like, everybody's still
• 48:37
  trying to figure it out and do the best they can with the tech
• 48:40
  that we have. But the next generation is going
• 48:43
  to be like it. It's going to be the Super
• 48:46
  Nintendo Game Boy Advance era of like this is this is where it's
• 48:50
  at. You know 4K60 with path tracing,
• 48:54
  ray tracing, You know the option of 120.
• 49:00
  Maybe this is, maybe this is our new, our new middle ground, you
• 49:04
  know, for, for gaming, 'cause you know, like I want to say
• 49:07
  like the the Xbox 360 PSPS. 3. 3 Thank you, thank you.
• 49:13
  I almost, I almost said four that and I, I almost said 4.
• 49:17
  But my brain was breaking even trying to like let those words
• 49:19
  slip out. Well to be fair, most you could
• 49:22
  you could skip the PS3. Yeah, yeah.
• 49:25
  But yeah, but just like how that it was the middle ground for for
• 49:28
  gaming for a long time, you know, like even PC games, even
• 49:32
  PC games back then, you know, the, the medium, the median,
• 49:38
  they look like, they look like 360 in PS3 games, you know, you
• 49:42
  know, there are certain games that did come out, you know,
• 49:44
  like Crysis, for example, that, you know, just blew the blew
• 49:48
  doors off, you know, but yeah, like, but yeah, like they're,
• 49:52
  but you know, for the most part, like all games kind of look the
• 49:54
  same, you know, you know, and that was kind of where they
• 49:57
  coasted for a while, you know, PS4PS4 and Xbox, Xbox One came
• 50:04
  out, you know, and like it was like, OK, we're trying something
• 50:06
  new, you know, And then PS5PS5 and the Xbox Series X came out
• 50:11
  and all of a sudden it was a whole bunch of flash and bluster
• 50:14
  because now we've got, you know, performance mode and, you know,
• 50:17
  and, you know, like, you know, performance mode and.
• 50:23
  Quality mode. I'm sorry, my my brain is just
• 50:26
  my brain. Is just I get it.
• 50:27
  I get it. I'm sorry.
• 50:28
  I get it. I'm right there with you.
• 50:31
  I I feel your pain. Yeah, yeah, I'm not.
• 50:34
  I'm not sure if it's just been a long week, you know?
• 50:38
  It's been a long something you. Know it's.
• 50:45
  Been a It's been a long something.
• 50:48
  Yeah. But no, I I hear you.
• 50:51
  It's definitely what is this? Huh, interesting.
• 51:03
  What were we talking about now? Gosh, I got distracted by
• 51:05
  notification. That oh, you, we, we.
• 51:07
  Pay attention to but we. Were just talking about like the
• 51:10
  PS. The PS-5 era has seemed like
• 51:12
  it's been 1 big like test or experiment.
• 51:14
  Yeah, it's just one experiment after another.
• 51:18
  You know, the live service stuff, the acquiring studios,
• 51:23
  you know, mismanaging and managing studios, you know
• 51:27
  acquisitions. Which Sony is not.
• 51:30
  Which Sony is not the only one guilty about.
• 51:33
  No, I mean, Microsoft is too, right?
• 51:35
  I mean it's. Matt's like this week has been 6
• 51:41
  fiscal months. He's not wrong.
• 51:46
  He's not. He's not.
• 51:48
  He's definitely not wrong. Especially with the weather.
• 51:52
  Yeah. But yeah, I, I, I just feel like
• 51:57
  they're trying to nail it down now before that next console
• 51:59
  comes out, because once that next console comes out, they're
• 52:05
  the way people are still playing on PlayStation 4, There's a real
• 52:07
  possibility that Sony's going to have 3 or 4 consoles on the
• 52:11
  market at the same time. At the same time.
• 52:13
  You know, if you include that the handheld, right, there's a
• 52:17
  real possibility people could be playing Fortnite on PS4, PS
• 52:21
  Five, PS Six and the project Canis at the same time, you
• 52:26
  know, and GTA, right? I mean, obviously not GTA6 won't
• 52:32
  be playable on 4, but it'll be on PlayStation 5 and 6 and
• 52:38
  presumably the handheld. Like it's insane.
• 52:43
  It's insane to think about how many things like this could be
• 52:48
  just changed with all this, this AI stuff.
• 52:53
  And I, I think Sony is looking at what this DLSS stuff is
• 52:58
  right? And they're like, oh, we, we
• 53:02
  better, we better, we better get Mark Cerny on the phone, you
• 53:07
  know, get his weird haircut and his soft, soothing voice out
• 53:11
  here to build us a console that's going to do all this.
• 53:14
  Yo Mark, yo no Mark Cerny has been putting work in since the
• 53:17
  PS4. He's like you can, Sony's like
• 53:20
  you can design the insides, but we need, we need somebody with,
• 53:23
  you know. We need artistic vision for for
• 53:26
  how it looks on the outside which which which?
• 53:29
  Here's a question. OK.
• 53:31
  So like if we look at, if we look at every, if we look at
• 53:34
  every generation of PlayStation, which one do you think has been
• 53:37
  the most beautifully designed in your opinion?
• 53:40
  Man, I mean I like the PS2 a lot.
• 53:44
  I think the PS2 slim is really. The PS2 slim is the GOAT in my
• 53:48
  opinion. Yeah, but if we're, if we're
• 53:51
  not, if we're excluding that, right, dude, The PS2 Slim, by
• 53:54
  the way. Oh my gosh dude, I I used to
• 53:58
  have pockets in the back of my jeans big enough to put that
• 54:01
  thing in. You were wearing jinkos.
• 54:04
  You were wearing jinkos back in the day.
• 54:05
  No, they were just fat people, jeans and.
• 54:08
  Fat people, Oh my God. And couldn't afford Jinkos, but
• 54:18
  I, I, I think man, I, I actually, as much as we made fun
• 54:22
  of the Kit Kat bar style thing of the, of the place of the
• 54:26
  PlayStation 4, I actually really think that, that the slim model
• 54:31
  is a really nice design. I think the Xbox One SX consoles
• 54:37
  are really nice looking. I love the Xbox One's design
• 54:41
  because the Xbox One it looked like.
• 54:44
  AVCR the launch. Are you talking about the launch
• 54:48
  one? No, I was talking about wait,
• 54:50
  wasn't there? There's three versions of the
• 54:53
  Xbox One. There's the launch version which
• 54:56
  was like a fat VHSVDCR looking thing.
• 55:02
  Then there's the Xbox series or the Xbox One S and the Xbox One
• 55:07
  X which looks similar but there's slight differences.
• 55:12
  I do think the Xbox One S is a really nice looking console.
• 55:15
  I also think the Xbox Series S is a nice looking console.
• 55:18
  But it's the 1X, it's the 1X that I like.
• 55:22
  Yeah, it just, it just, it just had simplistic elegance about
• 55:25
  it. It's elegant, it's sleek, it
• 55:29
  blends in. It's yeah, it's a really nice
• 55:32
  console. Yeah, and I and I and I even
• 55:35
  like the Series X, the Series X design, but you know, also, you
• 55:39
  know, there's. Also, that looks like a giant
• 55:40
  Amazon Alexa. Yeah.
• 55:44
  As they cancelled Cortana, remember when they were trying
• 55:49
  to incorporate Cortana and everything is their?
• 55:51
  Voices everything into everything.
• 55:55
  And Cortana wasn't that, wasn't that, was that Windows 8?
• 55:59
  Wasn't that back then? I don't know, man.
• 56:00
  Cortana's been around forever. Isn't that is that when she was
• 56:03
  introduced Windows 8? I don't know, man.
• 56:07
  I I don't remember anymore. It's it's all blur.
• 56:11
  It's all one big blur, dude. So let's see here.
• 56:22
  I think we're streaming on Facebook now, by the way.
• 56:25
  Oh, cool. I think I'm not sure we might be
• 56:30
  we might not be. Somebody can tell us later if we
• 56:33
  are. So yeah, my my thought on this
• 56:40
  is like, will there be follow-ups to this from other
• 56:45
  companies? Like how's this going to affect
• 56:47
  like the ROG Ally or the Steam Deck or switch to, right?
• 56:53
  I mean, switch to runs on NVIDIA.
• 56:55
  So this could affect that faster than the others.
• 56:58
  Although I don't know what kind of power you need to have these
• 57:01
  sorts of capabilities, right? I mean, obviously it's powerful
• 57:05
  enough to upscale something from 360P to 1080P.
• 57:08
  So there's that. But you know as as a ROG Ally
• 57:13
  user Leron, what would that be AMD right?
• 57:17
  It's AMD, yeah. You think AMD has something like
• 57:20
  this? Like even remotely close to
• 57:24
  this. OAMDAMD has been in the in the
• 57:28
  works of getting that done. We just, it just, it just has
• 57:31
  not, you know, like come to fruition yet.
• 57:33
  It's been it's been in the works for the past couple of years.
• 57:36
  And actually and actually is because AMD was try.
• 57:39
  AMD is trying to make a cheaper solution for ray tracing.
• 57:45
  What do you I mean? And once they keep writing them
• 57:48
  more affordable. Nothing, nothing new, nothing
• 57:51
  new. As a matter of fact, the last,
• 57:52
  the last keynote that actually the last keynote.
• 57:57
  I don't even think Lisa Sue is at that keynote.
• 57:59
  And and usually whenever she's there, that means some news is
• 58:02
  coming. Yeah.
• 58:04
  Lisa Sue is the is the CEO of AMD, by the way, For the people
• 58:08
  that don't, for the people that might not know.
• 58:11
  Oh yeah, you're not just talking to me, are you?
• 58:13
  No, no, I wasn't. I was talking, I was talking to
• 58:15
  stream. I was talking to stream
• 58:16
  Streamland and and the people who will be listening to us in
• 58:19
  the future once the once the vlog is actually once the VOD is
• 58:22
  actually out. Yeah, yeah.
• 58:28
  Is, I mean, anybody else doing something like this?
• 58:31
  You. I mean I get I, I.
• 58:33
  Intel. Intel.
• 58:35
  Intel's been quiet, you know. Like, well, that's because their
• 58:38
  business is failing. Which is wild.
• 58:42
  Intel was like pioneers of like, of like CPU technology and stuff
• 58:46
  like that And, and what the hell, you know, like, yeah.
• 58:51
  I know it's crazy they're turning it around though I
• 58:57
  think. They are.
• 58:58
  They are. They are.
• 58:59
  But the fact that, but the fact that we are that, the fact that
• 59:02
  we are sitting in here talking about how they are in the Hurt
• 59:04
  Locker right now is terrible. Yeah, that's crazy.
• 59:11
  I'd I man, I mean, they were supposed to open up all kinds of
• 59:15
  like chip fabs in Ohio and, you know, I think a couple others
• 59:19
  across the United States and they kind of put a hold on
• 59:23
  those. And you know, they laid off a
• 59:25
  whole bunch of people last year and changed their whole business
• 59:30
  plan essentially. So yeah, that's.
• 59:36
  Yeah, it's, it's, it's strange days.
• 59:39
  Strange days. Well, I don't know if you have
• 59:44
  any more to say about this stuff.
• 59:45
  I think it's really cool. I hope that.
• 59:48
  I think it's really cool. I, you know, I, I, I live, I
• 59:51
  live for these days and the only thing, the only thing that makes
• 59:53
  the only thing. Well, actually I feel like this
• 59:56
  is Nvidia's attempt to like kind of because I think NVIDIA, I
• 1:00:01
  think I think Nvidia's starting to see that their that their
• 1:00:03
  whole business models imploding because like they've thrown way
• 1:00:06
  too much in on the AI to the point where like, you know, like
• 1:00:08
  they're they're now to the point where where their hardware and
• 1:00:12
  this is graphics cards particularly are priced out so
• 1:00:15
  high that you know, like the regular consumer is having a
• 1:00:20
  hard time. Trying to get their foot in the
• 1:00:23
  door now, you know, You know. AMD is trying to do what they
• 1:00:28
  can, but AMD also has a MDAMD can't.
• 1:00:32
  AMD can't keep up, you know, and, and, and be cheap, you
• 1:00:38
  know, if that makes sense. You know, AMD was, AMD was a
• 1:00:41
  cheaper alternative to both Intel and NVIDIA at one point.
• 1:00:45
  But as technology has changed and stuff, you know, you know,
• 1:00:48
  they've also got to like, they've also got to like use a,
• 1:00:51
  a consistent pricing model now, you know, So it's one of those
• 1:00:56
  things. Yeah, also like all the
• 1:01:00
  everybody's using this like subscription services now for
• 1:01:03
  things that don't need subscription services.
• 1:01:06
  You know, I, I just. That's going to come to an end,
• 1:01:08
  too. I, I, I I can feel it.
• 1:01:10
  Yeah, I just, I feel like, you know, I, I look at things and I,
• 1:01:14
  I see certain things and it's like how, how are these
• 1:01:20
  companies still, like functioning as businesses?
• 1:01:22
  Because like it like data like, yeah, OK, data, whatever.
• 1:01:27
  But like, how much money are you spending to get this to where
• 1:01:32
  like you're making X amount of dollars?
• 1:01:35
  Is it even worth the investment of doing that instead of just
• 1:01:38
  like providing a product? Like I just feel like everything
• 1:01:41
  is becoming so incredibly complicated and like on purpose,
• 1:01:48
  like they're making it complicated on purpose and it's.
• 1:01:50
  Like. No, people in an in an era where
• 1:01:54
  people want convenience over quality, essentially.
• 1:01:57
  Like, yeah, and I know that kind of goes against the whole
• 1:02:01
  subscription thing because people like Netflix over, you
• 1:02:03
  know, you know, they would rather just flip through Netflix
• 1:02:06
  instead of getting up and putting a Blu-ray in their
• 1:02:08
  player or whatever. But like, like the convenience
• 1:02:11
  factor is like, man, you're making it so complicated.
• 1:02:14
  Like, oh, this thing works with this thing and you can get a
• 1:02:18
  plug in for this thing and it's like, can you just provide me a
• 1:02:20
  product that does everything and works, You know, like.
• 1:02:24
  Yeah, we don't even, we don't even need to, we don't even need
• 1:02:27
  to be like the the bleeding edge either.
• 1:02:29
  You know, that's the crazy part. No, I mean the.
• 1:02:31
  Bleeding edge. I mean, you look at something as
• 1:02:33
  simple as like Photoshop versus Canva, right?
• 1:02:37
  Look how complicated Adobe has made all of their products
• 1:02:40
  because they have to implement, you know, fireworks and
• 1:02:45
  Illustrator needs to work with with Photoshop, which needs to
• 1:02:49
  work with white room and bridge. And you know, all that needs to
• 1:02:53
  be integrated into, you know, premiere or whatever if you want
• 1:02:56
  it to. And it's like you go to Canva,
• 1:03:01
  it's like half the price. First of all, a month.
• 1:03:05
  It's not hard to cancel. And I don't know, Canva's a
• 1:03:09
  pretty good tool. I used to be like pretty anti
• 1:03:11
  Canva just because I was, I've been using Photoshop forever.
• 1:03:14
  But then it's like, oh, Canva's actually like a really nice tool
• 1:03:18
  that you can use and it's free and it's professional or, you
• 1:03:22
  know, there is a free version, but there's like, you know, it's
• 1:03:27
  just nuts, man. It's it's nuts how complicated A
• 1:03:30
  lot of this stuff is. And you know, I mean, it's what
• 1:03:33
  I'm dealing with with Facebook to the live stream now, right?
• 1:03:36
  It's like you said, I'm looking in the back end of Riverside,
• 1:03:40
  which is what we're using to record now.
• 1:03:43
  And it's like everything, every single integration.
• 1:03:46
  Oh, just log in and enter your password.
• 1:03:48
  OK, great. YouTube's logged, logged in,
• 1:03:51
  Linkedin's logged in. You know, Twitter's logged in,
• 1:03:54
  Twitch is logged in. You go to Facebook.
• 1:03:58
  Well, Riverside hasn't updated their Facebook meta stuff login
• 1:04:04
  for a while, it looks like. So like you have to go in and do
• 1:04:07
  the custom RTMP and you have to go into the Meta Business Suite
• 1:04:12
  and, you know, enter all these things in.
• 1:04:15
  You have to enter in your Riverside code into Facebook and
• 1:04:18
  then you have to like get the stream key and then you need to
• 1:04:22
  stream URL and it's like, what are you doing?
• 1:04:24
  Like. Yeah, it's.
• 1:04:25
  Wild. Everything else is so easy.
• 1:04:27
  Why are you making it so complicated?
• 1:04:29
  It's why nobody likes Facebook anymore.
• 1:04:32
  That's why they're shutting down their VR services, too.
• 1:04:34
  Did you see that today? Yeah.
• 1:04:37
  Well, I kind of, I kind of, I kind of saw that.
• 1:04:40
  I saw that a little while ago actually.
• 1:04:42
  I mean I saw. I mean, I I heard about it, but
• 1:04:47
  they're shutting down the entire platform.
• 1:04:49
  Yeah. Which is like my nephew just got
• 1:04:53
  a metaquest. You're telling me he's not going
• 1:04:56
  to be able to play his games anymore?
• 1:04:59
  He literally just got a metaquest for Christmas.
• 1:05:02
  That sucks, I'm sorry. And like he he loves it, but
• 1:05:09
  like you're telling me he's not going to be able to play it now?
• 1:05:15
  Man, what a what a joke. Now, I didn't read a bunch into
• 1:05:19
  it. I don't know if the games, like
• 1:05:20
  the games will still be available or whatever, but it's
• 1:05:22
  like shutting down your whole VR division.
• 1:05:25
  That doesn't sound great. Yeah.
• 1:05:27
  It doesn't. I'm sorry.
• 1:05:29
  They're metaverse division. Metaverse division?
• 1:05:34
  Oh my gosh, what? What's the protest going to look
• 1:05:39
  like outside of meta? Zuck sucks, so what's going to
• 1:05:42
  happen man? Anyways, you got anything else
• 1:05:50
  to add to this conversation on you?
• 1:05:52
  Got anything else to to say about the DLSS stuff that we
• 1:05:56
  have already hit on? Not really.
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  Yeah. All right.
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  Well, I don't really have anything else on the agenda.
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  You know, I just thought this was fascinating and you're the
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  person I like to talk to about these things because you're the
• 1:06:15
  tech guy. So, but why don't we?
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  Why don't we call the show? OK, I'm cool with that.
• 1:06:28
  I'm cool with that. I mean, you know.
• 1:06:30
  Yeah, we're Lauren and I are going to try to rework this show
• 1:06:35
  a little bit to be more. You know, I mean, we are the
• 1:06:43
  remaining panelists, I'll say, you know, I mean, Pat will
• 1:06:49
  probably join us once in a while, but he's doing games cast
• 1:06:52
  and, you know, Stephanie's focusing on the writing stuff.
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  So it's mostly just me and the run and probably guests moving
• 1:06:59
  forward. So we're going to try to retool
• 1:07:02
  the show to something that we would like it to be more Aiken
• 1:07:09
  2. So I don't know if you have any
• 1:07:11
  ideas, Laron, you want to throw out there that we can wrap the
• 1:07:13
  show up with, but I I kind of want.
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  It Let's save it for planning. Let's save it for planning.
• 1:07:19
  Yeah, I was. I was just going to, I was
• 1:07:21
  trying to extend the show Laron due to bad job extending the
• 1:07:24
  show. Oh my.
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  My bad. Any top any top level idea just
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  to wrap the show on? Like top level idea.
• 1:07:31
  Of like what you kind of want, what you would envision the show
• 1:07:34
  to be. I, I, I, I kid you not like, I,
• 1:07:41
  I like this. I like this because this is our
• 1:07:43
  third week in a row that we've done like, just basically like
• 1:07:45
  this, this, it's almost been like one topic, but it's been
• 1:07:48
  like 1 continuous topic that, you know, has like, honestly
• 1:07:51
  like rolled into like other talking points, which is which
• 1:07:54
  I, which I love. It doesn't seem all over the
• 1:07:56
  place. You know, we're still talking
• 1:07:59
  about current events and gaming and entertainment news and stuff
• 1:08:01
  like that. You know, I can't think of
• 1:08:05
  anything off the RIP, you know that I would say, you know, it's
• 1:08:09
  like a, it's like ultimately, ultimately we just want to get
• 1:08:15
  back to having fun. Yeah, yeah, I've, I've been
• 1:08:20
  thinking a lot about that across the board of like fan fun,
• 1:08:25
  remember fun. Fun, yeah.
• 1:08:28
  And obviously I've been like, personally, I've been like,
• 1:08:32
  really over the last couple years just stressing out about
• 1:08:35
  all this Basra stuff and like, what can we do to, you know,
• 1:08:39
  improve? How much more can we do?
• 1:08:41
  Can we push ourselves? Can we do this?
• 1:08:43
  Can we do that? And it's like, at the end of the
• 1:08:46
  day, it's like, man should just be like hanging out with
• 1:08:50
  friends. And, you know, if we're enjoying
• 1:08:54
  each other than people are going to enjoy us, you know what I
• 1:08:56
  mean? Like it's just kind of like,
• 1:08:58
  yeah, that's how I've kind of felt the last couple weeks.
• 1:09:02
  I've been rethink a lot of aspects of life for on take it
• 1:09:08
  to I. Mean, I mean we all do that
• 1:09:11
  we're. We're all but I, yeah, I, I, I
• 1:09:16
  like how this has gone too. I kind of like the two person
• 1:09:20
  show to be honest, too. Like the back and forth.
• 1:09:22
  I used to think. I I mean, I, I used to think
• 1:09:24
  like 3 people was like the nice sweet spot, but like, I don't
• 1:09:30
  know, Tower casuals is pretty successful.
• 1:09:34
  It's two people, pal Box pretty successful.
• 1:09:37
  It's two people. This show's successful, but
• 1:09:40
  like, you know, it could be successful with two plus people,
• 1:09:44
  Yeah. You know, here's one thing I
• 1:09:46
  would say because, because I'm, because I, I, I, I've listened
• 1:09:48
  to a lot of podcasts in my career and it's, it's
• 1:09:51
  interesting. It's interesting because
• 1:09:54
  because, because sometimes there's just two hosts and
• 1:09:56
  they're bouncing off each other like it's like that perfect
• 1:09:59
  synergy. And the other times like, you
• 1:10:01
  know, like 4 and 5 panel people where everybody gets, you know,
• 1:10:04
  a round Robin type thing like that also seems like, you know
• 1:10:08
  the sweet spot here. I will say, I will say this,
• 1:10:11
  Corey, I, I, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like you and I
• 1:10:14
  like, actually like we, we stopped being the main host when
• 1:10:19
  it's just us and we just, and we just, and we're just like 2
• 1:10:23
  dudes talking in the, you know, in the same room.
• 1:10:25
  Yeah. Whereas you know, like when it's
• 1:10:28
  when it's like, you know, like panels 3 or bigger and stuff
• 1:10:31
  like that. You and I, you and I switching
• 1:10:33
  to the the host slash moderator mode, you know.
• 1:10:36
  Yeah. And we try to give everybody
• 1:10:38
  else the voice, you know? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:41
  And that's like the the quote UN quote moderator thing is
• 1:10:45
  something I kind of want to get away from.
• 1:10:47
  It's just like, like you said, I just want to kind of hang out
• 1:10:50
  and talk and, you know, have fun.
• 1:10:54
  So we're going to Lauren and I are going to kind of look at
• 1:10:57
  that and see what's what and get back to the get back to the fun,
• 1:11:04
  as they say. So, but that's it.
• 1:11:08
  We did it. I want to thank everybody out
• 1:11:10
  there for watching or listening to this episode of the Boss Rush
• 1:11:12
  podcast. You can catch us live on
• 1:11:14
  Wednesday nights. It's going to be you and me
• 1:11:17
  again next week, Laurent, just you and me because everybody's
• 1:11:19
  going to PAX. Yes, Sir.
• 1:11:22
  Unlike unlike me, I am not going.
• 1:11:24
  Nothing wrong with that. Nope, nothing wrong with that.
• 1:11:28
  Nope. Hey Laurent, you want to talk
• 1:11:30
  about Nintendo next weekend? Weekend or week, weekend,
• 1:11:35
  Whatever. Since Eddie was right.
• 1:11:36
  Oh, since Edda be gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:40
  I'll do it. By the way, there was a point
• 1:11:43
  where you were on Nintendo Power block a lot.
• 1:11:45
  A lot, yeah. Around, you know, mid 2021.
• 1:11:49
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't.
• 1:11:52
  Remember that. Yeah, I mean, I'm not, I'm not a
• 1:11:54
  hater. Like I have fun when I'm on
• 1:11:56
  power block. And and it's funny because like,
• 1:11:59
  you know, then people find out. Oh, La Ron does know what he's
• 1:12:01
  talking about when it comes to Nintendo stuff.
• 1:12:04
  Maybe I'll beat, maybe I'll beat Metroid by then and we can talk
• 1:12:06
  about it. We'll talk about there.
• 1:12:08
  You know what, I I might play a little bit of Metroid.
• 1:12:11
  Zero. Do it.
• 1:12:12
  Do it. Night.
• 1:12:13
  Do it. It's not my wrong ally.
• 1:12:15
  I might play a little bit of it Night.
• 1:12:17
  Do it. All right, everybody, everybody
• 1:12:24
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• 1:12:26
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• 1:12:32
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