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Ian Furness 11/6 H2: Danny O'Neill, Mike Macdonald press conference, Daily Power Play · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: All righty. Time to check in with Danny O'Neill. A
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  Speaker 2: little bit earlier, normally at 1.20, but we're going to
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  Speaker 2: try to figure out. Danny, we've got injuries to figure
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  Speaker 2: out over at Seahawk Land, so once Mike McDonald speaks
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  Speaker 2: around 1.20, 1.25, we'll have our buddy Greg Bell jump on.
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  Speaker 2: You never know what to... I don't know about you.
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  Speaker 2: You covered this team for a long time and covered
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  Speaker 2: the NFL for a long time. You never know what
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  Speaker 2: to read into an injury report, right, on Thursday? The
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  Speaker 2: Thursday injury report doesn't matter. It's the Friday one that matters.
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  Speaker 3: The Friday one that matters.
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  Speaker 4: And it seems like Mike McDonald is fairly straightforward on
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  Speaker 4: Fridays about who is and isn't going to play. You
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  Speaker 4: can't necessarily trust what you see earlier in the week,
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  Speaker 4: but on Fridays, you get a pretty clear synopsis of
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  Speaker 4: who's going to be out there. We know Sam is
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  Speaker 4: going to be out with, with drew locks starting, but
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  Speaker 4: I play a Monday game and Seattle's done a good
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  Speaker 4: job of managing guys injuries for the breadth of the
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  Speaker 4: season to keep them available. But yeah, I'll be very
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  Speaker 4: interested to see who, who might be ruled out for
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  Speaker 4: this game.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right now that I think of it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Donald's pretty straightforward. Uh, Pete was always a little, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's got an evil. See, you know, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: Pete, you needed to just divide in half. Like, take
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  Speaker 3: how optimistic he was, divide it by two, and that
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  Speaker 3: would be... We think he's got a shot to play
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  Speaker 3: means it's going to be a real stretch for him
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  Speaker 3: to get on the field.
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  Speaker 2: We used to all be really good at basically the
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  Speaker 2: translation of Pete Carroll, right? You know, like I... If
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  Speaker 2: a guy had a really bad game and Pete's comment, well,
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  Speaker 2: he got through it, okay, that means the guy's going
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  Speaker 2: to get cut the next day. Anytime he told somebody,
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  Speaker 2: anytime he said something about a guy that he got
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  Speaker 2: through it, that's pretty bad. Either A, if it's injury,
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  Speaker 2: that means he's going on IRB. If he's healthy, that
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  Speaker 2: means he's getting cut. That was a Pete-ism through and through, right? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it was.
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  Speaker 4: The other one was when a guy suffered an injury
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  Speaker 4: that was going to put him on injured reserve, Pete would.
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  Speaker 3: Say, we're going to have to take care of him.
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  Speaker 4: And it made it sound like a racehorse that you
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  Speaker 4: were going to take out back and put down.
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  Speaker 3: Like it just always sounded so tough.
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  Speaker 4: And then I'll forever remember one day Bob Condotta asked him,
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  Speaker 4: it was after a couple injuries, do you need to
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  Speaker 4: get some more bodies at that position? And Pete looked
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  Speaker 4: at Bob and just goes, well, that's kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of grim, Bob. Oh, the Pete Carroll days. Missed those
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  Speaker 2: a lot. How was Mike? How was Holmgren with the injuries?
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  Speaker 2: I only covered him a year and a half.
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  Speaker 4: Holmgren was good, but there would be an occasional time
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  Speaker 4: where he would really, really make it sound like a.
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  Speaker 3: Guy was going to play.
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  Speaker 4: And then he became clear he had very little shot.
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  Speaker 4: I remember one with Jeremy Stephens. I was certain that
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  Speaker 4: he was going to play, and then he didn't even
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  Speaker 4: dress for the game, and I was like, I guess
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  Speaker 4: I got hooked.
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  Speaker 3: On that one. So Holmgren could occasionally be coy.
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  Speaker 4: His line, so where Pete would say he got through it,
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  Speaker 4: Holmgren's line would be, God bless him.
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  Speaker 3: God bless him. One of my favorite guys.
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  Speaker 4: It would mean he was out there trying his darndest,
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  Speaker 4: but he just doesn't have.
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  Speaker 3: What it takes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Mike's classic. There's no doubt about that. Daniel O'Neill joining
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  Speaker 2: us here on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. Dang apostrophe.
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  Speaker 5: Danny, I.
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  Speaker 2: I found it interesting to read the story as you
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  Speaker 2: as a Husky alum on the DeMond Williams saga, which
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  Speaker 2: just continues. I mean, listen, if you're not going to
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  Speaker 2: go to the playoffs and you're ranked in the top
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  Speaker 2: 20 in the start of the regular season, you don't
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  Speaker 2: go to the playoffs, it's a disappointing season. So at
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  Speaker 2: least entertain us somehow. And if nothing else, it's been
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  Speaker 2: an entertaining season filled with drama. So let me go
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  Speaker 2: through this. You tell me if I'm right. So DeMond
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  Speaker 2: signs a big contract. He's going to come here. We
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  Speaker 2: find out it's $ 4. 5 million. Why do we find out?
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  Speaker 2: Because then DeMond tries to go and hang out with
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  Speaker 2: what's-his-face down there, Lane Kiffin down at LSU. And then
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  Speaker 2: they say, no, you're not going to do that. The
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  Speaker 2: Big Ten gets involved. He announces it, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: on the night of the memorial service for a beloved
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  Speaker 2: soccer player, Mia Hammond. And the whole campus is there,
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  Speaker 2: except for DeMond, whose people announced it that day that,
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  Speaker 2: You know, he wants to leave, what have you. And
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  Speaker 2: then he ends up being forced. He's back. Here he is.
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  Speaker 2: He's not playing well. He gets benched. And, well, he
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  Speaker 2: got hurt. Then he got benched. Soft benching, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: is the term of the week, if you notice that
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  Speaker 2: around the NFL. Soft benching.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I did. I have seen that a couple times.
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  Speaker 2: So he's soft benching. And Elijah Brown, who if anybody
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  Speaker 2: looked at the numbers and the stats and even any
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  Speaker 2: of the tape of when he was at Stanford... No,
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  Speaker 2: but he's the guy that's going to save you. And
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  Speaker 2: then it turns out that DeMond saves you against Nebraska,
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  Speaker 2: and now he's back in the good graces. Did I
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  Speaker 2: cover it all? What did I miss?
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  Speaker 3: It did. No, that sounds about right. And I'll say this.
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  Speaker 4: I give DeMond a lot of credit because of the
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  Speaker 4: way he continued to be locked in and committed, and
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  Speaker 4: he was ready to go when his number was called.
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  Speaker 4: When he left that Iowa game, when he didn't finish
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  Speaker 4: that game with injury, I thought there was a legitimate
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  Speaker 4: chance that that was the last snap we were going
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  Speaker 4: to see him.
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  Speaker 3: Play for Washington.
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  Speaker 4: That because of what you described and kind of the
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  Speaker 4: near exit, forced to go back, everybody puts on a
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  Speaker 4: happy face and says, this is really where he wanted
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  Speaker 4: to be all along. And we're excited moving forward. That
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  Speaker 4: given the way the season was gone, it would be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it didn't work.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't work. We tried our best on both ends. both
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  Speaker 3: sides are going to get a fresh start after this.
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  Speaker 3: And when Elijah played really well, and he did, and
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  Speaker 3: the offense looked a lot better, but it's Purdue. And
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  Speaker 3: then for three quarters, they really couldn't do anything against a.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty good Nebraska defense. I'll give, I'll give him on
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  Speaker 4: a lot of credit for the way he came in
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  Speaker 4: and pulled them out. And I'll say the one thing
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  Speaker 4: that should answer is there were a number of people
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  Speaker 4: who felt like, that one of the reasons that DeMond's
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  Speaker 4: performance hadn't been playing as people expected them to, why
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  Speaker 4: the first two months have been disappointing, was this sense
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  Speaker 4: that he didn't really want to be here, that he
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  Speaker 4: wasn't fully committed, that he tried to leave and forcing
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  Speaker 4: him to come back, really his heart.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't in it.
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  Speaker 4: That way they came back against Nebraska in my mind
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  Speaker 4: shows very definitively. This isn't a question of effort or dedication.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not going to try and tell you that
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  Speaker 4: demands played great all season. And really the issues haven't
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  Speaker 4: been him. Cause I think that his, his ability to
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  Speaker 4: operate the offense on time has been a huge issue,
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  Speaker 4: but it hasn't been a question of effort or commitment.
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  Speaker 4: And I, and I, I think in my mind, this really,
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  Speaker 4: the comeback against Nebraska is, Really, really emphasize that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what the answer is going forward at
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  Speaker 3: quarterback level.
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  Speaker 4: This Washington season, you can talk yourself into, they've got
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  Speaker 4: a really good nucleus of young players.
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  Speaker 3: Like I went through and counted it up. You've got 11, 12,
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  Speaker 3: really good players who are in their first or second
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  Speaker 3: year at the school who are contributing right now.
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  Speaker 4: They've got a good young nucleus. I have no idea
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  Speaker 4: what they're going to do next year at quarterback. And
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  Speaker 4: it's too soon to sort of nail that down. And
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  Speaker 4: that was thrown into even more doubt when they lost
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  Speaker 4: their top quarterback recruit this week.
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  Speaker 3: To get out of Arizona. And I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Are they going to go out and get a different quarterback?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe. Is Saman Williams going to want to stay? I
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  Speaker 3: don't think many of us expect that, but I think
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  Speaker 3: that's more possible than people think. If he did want
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  Speaker 3: to stay, would Washington want to keep him? What would
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  Speaker 3: it look like?
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  Speaker 4: And then the question of, or do you turn it
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  Speaker 4: over and say, hey, we've got Elijah Brown, who's now
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  Speaker 4: had a full year.
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  Speaker 3: Are we okay with that while bringing it? I really
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 4: And I actually think that the next four games will
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  Speaker 4: have a lot to say about it because I could
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  Speaker 4: see a scenario where you see improvement at a really
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  Speaker 4: strong finish that, that could repair the relationship between sort
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  Speaker 4: of demand or the feelings about demand, not repair the relationship, but,
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  Speaker 4: but change the feelings about demand and how he'll play
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  Speaker 4: going forward. But I think it was just a week
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  Speaker 4: ago that my opinion was, Hey man, that's Elijah Brown's
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  Speaker 4: starting job until he shows that they can't move the
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  Speaker 4: ball under him.
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  Speaker 2: And three quarters later, he couldn't move the ball. And
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  Speaker 2: there it was. It's Daniel Deal joining us. You know,
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  Speaker 2: how different do you think it is if, okay, people
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  Speaker 2: will accuse me this is the cougar in me, but
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a reality here. If Lawson doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: one of the best catches in college football this year,
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  Speaker 2: It's fourth and 18. It's fourth and 18. If he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't catch that, are we having a different conversation?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Go a step further. Look at the throw.
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  Speaker 4: I do not know how DeMond Williams got rid of
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  Speaker 4: that throw without having his arm hit.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I agree.
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  Speaker 3: The sheer physics of that.
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  Speaker 4: And DeMond made some really, he had an equally incredible
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  Speaker 4: throw against USC where you just have to look at
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  Speaker 4: how the hell did he do that?
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  Speaker 3: He spun on that one. And a ridiculous catch. You're right.
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  Speaker 3: It feels a ton different.
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  Speaker 4: But that said, Washington deserves some credit and DeMond deserves
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  Speaker 4: some credit because he's put them down in position to have.
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  Speaker 3: A chance a number of times this season. And it
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  Speaker 3: hasn't worked out. And this time it did. But you're
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  Speaker 3: absolutely right in terms of storylines.
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  Speaker 4: And look, if you ask me, the offense played significantly
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  Speaker 4: better with DeMond Williams.
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  Speaker 3: You saw the benefit of his scrambling ability. They still
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  Speaker 3: can't run the ball, and Amon still took two sacks
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  Speaker 3: because he still tends to hold the ball a little long.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm not someone who's like, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: These last four games, they're all winnable.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, in theory, but like we talked about last week,
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  Speaker 4: communism also works in theory.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think in this day and age, I
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  Speaker 2: see another evolution in college football that's interesting. And it's this.
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  Speaker 2: So the story just came out an hour, hour and
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  Speaker 2: a half ago that Missouri's quarterback, Austin Simmons, really good player,
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  Speaker 2: has re-signed, which is, think about that in college football,
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  Speaker 2: by the way. He's re-signed. But he's re-signed. He's coming
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  Speaker 2: back next season. He's committed to coming back to Missouri
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  Speaker 2: next year. And what does that do for Mizzou? Well,
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  Speaker 2: it allows them to go out, retain your current roster probably. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: we've got the quarterback. We're taking these steps. We're a
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  Speaker 2: ranked team. We're making strides. And then also go out
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  Speaker 2: and get others. Jesse Legree did that at Oregon State
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  Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago. Everyone thought he was going to
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  Speaker 2: announce he's leaving. In fact, a lot of people thought
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  Speaker 2: he was just going to say, yeah, man, I'm out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to play the last five games. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to, I'm going to the portal and away we go.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for Oregon State for everything. But about, he says, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm coming back. Well, the boost then for Oregon State's massive.
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  Speaker 2: Like DeMond, I'm not sure what the reaction would be.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Cause that's, that's the thing is you just don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But I do like seeing guys, whether it be DeMond
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  Speaker 2: or somebody else saying, yeah, man, I'm coming back. We're
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  Speaker 2: not messing around. We're not doing this again. If they'll
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  Speaker 2: have me. I think with DeMond though, if we're being honest.
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  Speaker 2: Probably have to take a pay cut. God, and did
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  Speaker 2: I just say that in college football? He'd have to
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  Speaker 2: take a pay cut. Like, you're not paying him $ 4
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  Speaker 2: million again.
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  Speaker 4: It's such, it's a, taking the people out of it
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  Speaker 4: and just talking about it from a strictly personnel standpoint,
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  Speaker 4: it's a fascinating question of what would you want to
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  Speaker 4: do if you're Washington?
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  Speaker 3: Would you want to bring him back?
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  Speaker 4: And if so, would you bring him back at the
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  Speaker 4: same salary? Because I don't know, and this could change
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  Speaker 4: depending on what happens the last four weeks. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if there's anybody, any school in the country that
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  Speaker 4: would sort of match what he's making this year. But
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  Speaker 4: that's also because I don't know the quarterback market. And
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  Speaker 4: there's so much that's up in the air. And I
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  Speaker 4: think there's a higher percentage chance than people think that
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  Speaker 4: DeMond could remain as Washington's starting quarterback. I still don't
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  Speaker 4: think it's the most likely outcome because you have the
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  Speaker 4: two variables. Would DeMond want to come back when we
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  Speaker 4: saw last January that if he'd had the opportunity, he
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  Speaker 4: very well might have left.
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  Speaker 3: Would Washington want him back?
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  Speaker 4: That's a question too, because a lot of the season,
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  Speaker 4: but it is Washington's going to find itself in a
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  Speaker 4: very interesting position because it does have that nucleus of
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  Speaker 4: young talent.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a real, real uncertainty at quarterback. And speaking
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  Speaker 3: of stories, I just saw a headline that the sec
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  Speaker 3: is talking about imposing a luxury.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: They're the NBA. They're the NBA now. We're going to talk.
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  Speaker 3: About, yeah. Is LSU going to be on the second day?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, LSU is screwed. They are screwed along the way. No,
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  Speaker 2: but I think that's, I mean, you know, you said
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  Speaker 2: something interesting there. We don't know what the quarterback market
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  Speaker 2: is going to look like. I mean, Braden Atkinson's leading
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  Speaker 2: the country in everything at Oregon State. Legree's coming back.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to try to keep him because he would
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  Speaker 2: have been one of the hottest guys out there if
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  Speaker 2: he stays. And then, you know, Simmons stays at Missouri. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you start losing who those transfers could be. It's just
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  Speaker 2: a weird world. Danny O'Neill joining us. Danny, let me
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  Speaker 2: get to this. Earlier this week, we had the press
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  Speaker 2: conference for Jason Kanza, the new Mariner manager. And you've
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  Speaker 2: sat in this chair that I'm sitting in before you
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  Speaker 2: see when, you know, the text messages come in from
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  Speaker 2: listeners and it's the instant reaction. So Kanzler's doing his
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  Speaker 2: news conference and I kind of, and I, and I,
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  Speaker 2: and I still stand by this. I think this is
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  Speaker 2: a wait and see, like we, we don't need to,
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  Speaker 2: to absolutely destroy the guy now because he's never managed.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, the, He's another puppet for Jarrett. Can
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  Speaker 2: we just get to the first month of the season
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: and see what it looks like? But I think it's
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: safe to say he didn't win the press conference. It
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: was underwhelming. It was just underwhelming. But that doesn't mean
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes he's not great and isn't awesome with
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: the players. My understanding is he commands a room pretty
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: well when he walks into it. That's from people inside
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: T-Mobile that have already met with him. But as far
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: as on the podium and doing all that, it did
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: not instill a lot of confidence in Mariner fans. How
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: important is it to win a news conference?
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: It is one of the least important attributes for the
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: success of a manager or coach. I don't, the thing
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: that stops me from saying that it's entirely unimportant is
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: the fact that Jim Tomsula, when he was named 49ers
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: head coach, one of these single, like where I saw
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: one exchange, and I don't think it was the press conference.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: I think it was a Q and a afterwards conference.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: where a host was trying to get him to name
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: some potential candidates. And he just started humming and hawing
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: and no, I'm not.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Going to do it. And as soon as I saw that,
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: I was like, that is not going to work. There
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: is just no way.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: That that, so that's the only thing that stops me
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: from saying it's not important at all, but how a
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: manager relates to his players and how they respond to him.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: It's not just the most important thing. It's really the
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: only thing. My question or my biggest uncertainty with Jason
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: Kanzler is how are players, and presumably because one of
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: the things they're going to want is to get better performance.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: this next season out of their very best players out
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: of Julio and out of cow, who looks like was
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: hurt out of Naylor, who is someone who was also
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: banged up. That's, that's in my mind, really the only question.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: And how can he navigate and serve as, how does
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: he communicate his plans to guys? If, I don't know
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: if there'll be any more piggyback. I hope I never
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: have to say piggyback again. But I think one of
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: the real problems last year was how the piggyback was implemented.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: The way it was communicated to the players was a
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: real problem. And.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: That is the sort of thing that a manager, those
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: are the things that matter for a manager. Because if
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: it's just a matter of making sort of statistical assessments
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: of what is, if you're willing to be a by
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: the numbers, these are the substitutions we're going to make.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: This is when we're going to pinch hit for guys.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Here's who's going to bat against righties and who's going
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: to bat against lefties and how many times a starting
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: pitcher is going to go through a rotation. You can
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: get a computer to do that. You still need, in baseball,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: somebody who is able to communicate the plans to players
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: in a way that gets them to, if not completely
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: buy in, to understand and believe in the consistency of
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: the logic being used. The number one way to lose
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: guys is when they feel that they're either being misled
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: or they're really not being told the truth about what's happening.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: And I would agree with you.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: I was not overwhelmed by how he handled it. But
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: I also think that that idea of winning the press
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: conference and making fans feel good is such a fleeting
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: high that it really, what matters.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Is how he relates to the guys that are playing
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: for him.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, I would agree. I mean, if we're going to
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: look at, say, I'll just look at a couple of
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: recent ones with the Seahawks, for example, right? Jim Mora
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: won the press conference. And it was a disaster. Mike
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: McDonald was, I would put him in the same category
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: as Kanzler. Mike McDonald's first press conference, I was sitting
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: there in that auditorium. And then, in fact, I had
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: him on the show. I was in our little side room.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: He walked in afterwards. We did a one-on-one. And I
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, whatever. I mean, I know he's really smart. But,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: you know, the answers were short and not a lot
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: of personality. He didn't smile. And I'm like, God, is
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: this guy going to be able to get through to people?
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Et cetera, et cetera. I guess he's been okay. He
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: seems like he's, he's got overcome any of those issues.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: And he's also gotten a lot better at the cancer thing.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: I'll give him a break. It's, this is not something
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: he's done a lot of, right? Like he's in his
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: roles in baseball. It's not something he's done a lot of.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: My biggest thing is, can he, can he command the clubhouse?
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Like you said, can you walk in there? And when
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Julio throws a ball into the outfield seats with one out,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: is he going to, you know, bench his ass and,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: you know, hold, is he going to hold guys accountable?
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Is he going to, is he going to hold the
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: organization accountable? Cause I would go down that road for
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: a second too. I've got a real question about end
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: of the season comes and quietly behind the scenes, we
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: find out that Cal Raleigh has shoulder surgery and Josh
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Naylor has wrist surgery. Well, we spent all year banging
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: on how bad these guys were. They were hurt. They
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: should not have been playing. And if you're the manager,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: you maybe have to kind of stand up for your
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: players at some point, too, and say, hey, listen, I've
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: got to protect you from yourself. I've got to help
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: the organization. Yeah, maybe we won't make the playoffs, but
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: you know what? We're not going to make the playoffs
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: anyway with your wrist all jacked up, Josh Naylor. We're
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: not going to make the playoffs with Cal not being
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: able to swing from one side of the plate. But
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: can he command that clubhouse? None of us know that today.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: The Mariners are banking on it that he can. They're
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: banking on the fact that he can. But none of
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: us know that today, Danny, and it'll take a while.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: And unfortunately, baseball, Danny, we might not find out until
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: next year. And I say next year, 2028, who knows?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the art of what makes a good manager, because
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: you've seen different guys. I believe Joe Torres, I think
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: we'd all agree, is one of the best baseball managers
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: that we've ever seen.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: One of Joe Tory's biggest strength, the biggest thing he
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: did was he took pressure off of all of those
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: players from the New York media. He understood how to
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: deal with the New York media and in New York, that's.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: A huge part of the job. It's a huge part
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: of the job.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: He had a very veteran team with Jorge Posada and
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Derek Cheater and like those guys that became such stalwarts.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: And he kind of provided them with the space to
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: run their clubhouse.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: He didn't have to be a taskmaster. but he dealt
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: with the press.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Lou Piniella, Lou Piniella was someone that brought a fire
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: and an urgency and a pressure that this franchise needed
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: at that time, that a franchise that had never been
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: to the playoffs.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: So what, there's no one way to be a successful
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: baseball manager, but you absolutely, it all depends upon your
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: players understanding what you, you provide them and then them
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: being able to trust that you're going to deliver exactly
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: what you say.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Joe Torre didn't have a 90-win season until he got
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: to the Yankees. Mets, Braves, and Cardinals.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: My enduring image of him is him sitting with his
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: feet up on a desk in the Yankees clubhouse with
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: the hat kind of popped up with the brim, like
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: not fully wearing his hat, just like talking to the reporters.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: And explaining to them. And it's really, she took all
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: of the heat from what is a fairly ravenous press corps.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: It's just, there's a lot of different ways to do it. Yeah.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: There, and, You know, we won't know. It's hard to tell.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting what you said, though. Every
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: market's different. Yeah, like Brett Boone, Aaron Boone, does a
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: great job with that in New York, right? He does
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: a great job with taking stuff off of the player's plate.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: He's so accessible. He's so good with the media, good about, right? Like,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: he does that. You don't maybe necessarily need that as
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: much here.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: No, you kind of need someone a little bit of
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Lou Piniella and a little bit of fire and like, man,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: you've got to be more focused. You've got to be
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: more tuned in. You've got to have better at bats,
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I would say. And maybe the key to this relationship
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: is what he gets.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Out of Julio. I love Julio.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I think Julio is an enormously talented player. He would
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: benefit from being more focused and have a better approach
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: at the plate, a more disciplined approach to his at-bats.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Tell folks about the dang apostrophe, sir.
• 23:21
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• 23:23
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• 23:27
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• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Talk to you next week, my friend. Thank you.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Take care of you.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: That's Danny O'Neill joining us. We'll take a break. We'll
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: come back. We're going to hopefully hear and see. Not hear,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: not see, but we'll hear from our friend Greg Bell
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: very soon. I can tell you this. Interesting note coming
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: out from the CXA. They announced their game captains. Derek
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Hall is one of them. He did not practice yesterday,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: so I'll assume since he's a game captain and they
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: just announced that he's going to be playing. That's a
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: good sign. That's a good sign, but we'll find out
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: what the rest of that injury report looks like with
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell soon on i3.
• 24:05
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• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Now back to the Washington State Beef Commission's Football Friday
• 24:12
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• 24:16
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• 24:18
  Speaker 2: All right, we're back. Let's do this. Let's head right
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: now to the Virginia Mason Athletic Center and check in
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: with the extensive injury list. Here's head coach Mike McDonald.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: All right, we've got a few. Charles is going to
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: be out. We know Sam is out. Quinton is going
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: to be out. We're going to get to a minor procedure.
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: He's week-to-week at this point. We're not going to put
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: him on IR. So we'll go from there. But there's
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: a timeline right now that warrants not IR. So that's
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: what we're going to do. Chenna will be out. Connor
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: O'Toole is questionable. Brandon Peely will be out. Rashid Shaheed
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: will be out.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: And Leo will be out.
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: So here's your update.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: In short, he had something that he was dealing with
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: when he got here, and we re-imaged it, and it
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: was aggravated.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: To some degree.
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: So, you know, we've kind of done the due diligence,
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: and everybody agrees that it's best to take care of
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: it now and play the long game. So he'll be
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: week to week at this point.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: So it's a knee procedure?
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: So Google started, I guess, with the guard spots?
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so actually the grand plan was to really just
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: try to shake everything up because we felt like we
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: were too comfortable. So AB will go back to right
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: guard and Gray will go back to left guard.
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: Were you guys aware of the knee issue with Quentin
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: when you made the deal?
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: I can't give you all the details on what it
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: was and what we found. Obviously he passed the physical,
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: so I think two things are true. One, that it
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: was something that he was dealing with coming out of
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: whatever game he was before the trade, and I think
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: it's been aggravated since he got here.
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: Drew, okay to go?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Drew's going to start, yep.
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: How did he do this week with the elbow? He's
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: done a great job, and Jalen Monroe's done a great
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: job as well. It's been a tag-team effort to get
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: ready and I thought both guys have loved their attitude,
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: the details, all those things. They're in a good spot.
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: Drew's going to start the game.
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: Is there any new talk of IR for any of
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: the guys you mentioned like Leonard or Rasheed or those guys?
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: Not to my knowledge, no.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: With Leonard, I guess you said he had a chance
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: to play on Tuesday.
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: Did anything change with Leonard? Just didn't get better. I mean,
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: all these guys just couldn't, nothing, you know, it's just
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: the way it goes. They just didn't improve.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: How much is the short week a factor here, or
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: do you think.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: A normal week they.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't play either?
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: It might be a factor. It might be a factor.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: They'd still have to, like, make, you know, speculation, I guess.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Generally, what kind of progress has Charles made? Good, good.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: Charles, these guys have made, just got to get over
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: those those hurdles so you can get out there and practice.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: He's working his tail off. All these guys are working hard.
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: I haven't been able to make it to the game.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: Drew Locke, how much have you had to govern his
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: throwing this week?
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: We've had to manage it. More precautionary than anything else.
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: Without getting into all the specifics, but it's something that
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: we've had to manage.
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: Do you still have some of those constraints on Jadarian
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: and Zach coming this week?
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: Uh, there, there, there are some parameters that we're working
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: with for who it is and to what extent, um,
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: probably not, probably not tell everybody on that one.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: With Zach in particular though, can you just feel week
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: to week?
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: I mean, and you're just, yeah, yeah, exactly. Um, again,
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: we've had, we've had some moving pieces on, on offense here, uh,
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: I don't know for the X, you know, X amount
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: of weeks now. And, um, As it starts to calm
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: down and guys get more reps and more chemistry, I
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: think that'll pay dividends for us.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: What kind of work has Sam been able to do
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: this week?
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: He's just working in rehab and go through that process.
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: He's kind of like a coach on the field right now.
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: I've probably talked to him the most during practice I've
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: ever had because normally he's taking all the plays. It's
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: been fun.
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: When you have the guard kind of switching stuff. Was
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: there any conversation about, well, do we keep Gray and
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: let him keep working.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: It, right?
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah. We've had those conversations. Obviously, if we knew this
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: was going to happen, but you just solve one problem
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: at a time. We felt like not having a specific
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: timetable and having it be at least this game and
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: X amount of practices and then going into the bye
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: let's put those guys back where they banked all those reps.
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: I think that was the most important thing. most wise decision.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: There you go. That's head coach Mike McDonald. A lot
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: of news over there. We're going to get Greg Bell
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: on here in just a couple seconds. Man, oh man.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: That's an extensive injury list. I don't care who the
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: hell you're playing. That's an extensive injury list. Kind of
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: wish I hadn't stopped by Snoqualmie Casino on the way
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: down here today with eight and a half as a
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: point spread. It's kind of, it's kind of hurt. I'm
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: not liking that to be honest.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: So we'll get Greg on and get his thoughts. He
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: just finished up there with Mike McDonald, but that, that
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: extensive list is there. Oh man. Oh man. I'll tell
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: you right now. That is the big one at Quentin
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Nelson week to week. We'll get Greg's thoughts on that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I see people already reacting on social media. Greg's with
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: us right now. Greg Bell joins us from the Virginia
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Mason Athletic Center. Greg, we carried that first part. We
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: heard you firing questions off at Mike McDonald. Just your
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: reaction to that. I mean, we knew a few guys
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: were maybe iffy and questionable, and now all of a sudden,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: that's a bleak outlook in terms of injuries this weekend, sir.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. The Quentin Nelson one in particular was,
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: It makes you wonder. We asked them, did they know
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: when they traded from the Colts that he had a
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: condition that would require a, in McDonald's words, minor knee procedure?
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: And basically the answer is no. He said he passed
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: his physical. So in the last 24 hours, the team
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: realized he would need a procedure. I think what's going
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: on here is we've talked about this, but the way
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: the schedule is, they have Arizona, then Las Vegas next week,
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: and then the bye. And I think that by, that's
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: why McDonald's said they don't think Nelson needs to go
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: on IR. They're not putting Donald on injured reserve. They're
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: not putting Leonard Williams with an Achilles issue on injured reserve.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: Because they really have three weeks to play with here
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: if they can get through these two weeks, Arizona and
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: the Raiders. But now that's a big if. They got
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: half their starting lineup is out. And a lot of
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: their key players on offense, including their starting quarterback and
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: their all-pro left guard, Not to mention they're jerking Gray
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: Zabel back to the left guard again. And how about
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: the morale of Anthony Bradford right about now?
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  Speaker 2: In a contract year. In a contract year.
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  Speaker 5: You didn't need me last week, and now you need
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: me at right guard again. In a contract year. Yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: You know who's going to be the savior of this
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: game if they win? It's going to be Jadarian Price.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: And he had already said earlier, I think the most
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: key thing McDonald has said all week is that the
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: constraints on Price are going to be, quote, significantly fewer
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: this week. They should give him the ball 20, 25
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: times and see what that looks like.
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  Speaker 2: Have to. We talked to Greg Cosell about that last hour,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: and he said the same thing. He says, this is
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: a team and a defense that Jadarian Price should have
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: success with. Now, we weren't knowing at the time Quentin
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Nelson wouldn't play, but listen, if we're being honest, Gray's
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: able back. You could be in a lot worse shape
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: on the offensive line. I think the frustration for people
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: is this. You have a you just trade for this
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: guy and you're expecting big things. And now all of
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: a sudden, you know, as, as, you know, as Cosell said,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: the first game, he was so, so like, so, so,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: and now that probably because he had a knee issue,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised, you know, like in today's day and age,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: they must, they had to put them through a physical
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  Speaker 2: right before they brought them in here.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: They did. McDonald's said he passed the physical and, And
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: it's within the last 24 hours that the need came
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: for the minor procedure and to put Zabel back at
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: left guard. So he came out of the– obviously what's
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: happened is he came out of the game Monday reporting
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: discomfort and they tested the knee again and found imaging
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: that would tell him they need surgery.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So let's go through the other ones. I think
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the one that I think hurts them– well, the other
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: one on the defense– Who steps up in the place
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: of Shannon Uosu on the edge? And I think you
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: saw his not being there. You saw that missed on Monday.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: And who steps up for Leonard Williams?
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Well, I could see, well, Mike Morris will be the
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: most obvious defensive end to step up. I could see
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: Byron Murphy playing outside some. He has done it in practice.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: He's done it in training camps, and he's done it well.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: He hasn't done it a lot. during games, but he
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: does some three and some five technique inside and outside
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: the pack, the offensive tackle. It wouldn't surprise me if
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: he does a little bit of end. It wouldn't surprise
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: me to see Nicky Manori in a four point stance
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: more in this game as a part-time end. They'll Derek
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Hall was back on the practice fair. I saw him
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: walk off. He's not listed at all as an injury
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: designate of any kind. So he's going to be good
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: to go to play. They're making him a worry. And
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: as we know how they use them, they, he gives
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: McDonald some flex, but we can put him as an
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: outside linebacker. We can put him as a Sam linebacker.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: We can put him as a defensive end. If we
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: need to, there'll be some downs that new OSU and
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Williams might normally play on the edge. I think you
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: might see more of one of Nick even worry.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I'd feel better. Brandon Peely was a healthy. He's not,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: but that means Riley Mills is going to get a
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: lot of snaps and I don't mind that he's a
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: good player. And I think he's deserving of some more snaps, but, uh, Man,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: away we go. All right, Greg, what do you got
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: coming up? You're working on the website stuff, right? Fire away.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: What do you got?
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll put up stories out here about Nelson and
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: this whole situation and who's back filling all these starters
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: that are out. It'll be on 933KGR. com here this afternoon.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Have fun covering that. It'll be an interesting game on
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Sunday for sure. So take care. We'll talk to you later. Thanks, Greg.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Thanks, man.
• 35:20
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• 35:23
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• 35:29
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• 36:36
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• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Hockey Network. Speaking of which, I just wanted to welcome
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: this gentleman to town. So excited to have him part
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: of what we're doing on the Kraken Hockey Network on
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: the TV side. He made his debut on Wednesday. Was
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: it Wednesday? Wednesday, yes. Wednesday in the overtime win against Calgary.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: So if nothing else, the guy has good luck.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: 13 years.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: In the National Hockey League. A couple Stanley Cups hoisted
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: as well as a member of the Tampa Bay Lightning.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: And he's a local guy from Spokane, Washington, or Spokompton
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: as we like to call it. Played for the Spokane Chiefs,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: same team that produced Berkeley Cat. And Tyler Johnson now
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: part of things and joining us for a handful of
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: games this season. And he's on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Hi, Tyler.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: How are you doing today, buddy?
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: Hey, I'm doing good.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. I appreciate you popping on. How
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: was day one on TV for you? That was your
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: debut on Wednesday. How'd it go? Yeah, I mean, it
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: was a lot of fun.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: Obviously, you know, it's a lot harder than it looks.
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: You guys make it look easy.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: So, no, it was a good time.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: Hopefully, I can get a little bit better as things
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: go on and get a little bit more comfortable. But,
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: you know, the team won, too, so that makes it
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: a lot easier.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Well, watching upstairs, I thought you and Allison and Chris
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Egan were fantastic. You get to work with a pro
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: like Chris. He's phenomenal, and Allison's as good as it gets.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: So I thought you did great. I thought it was awesome.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have known it was your first day on TV.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I thought it was phenomenal. I'm looking forward to working
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: with you tomorrow. John Forslund's back upstairs. He's back off
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: the road. So John's going to be here. So you
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: and I are working with Allison tomorrow. Just real quickly,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: we've just got a minute or two here. What are
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: your impressions of this Kraken team? Because you know how
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: the national media is in the National Hockey League. They're sometimes,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: how do we say this, negative. And no one was
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: giving this team a chance. They don't have a true superstar,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: but they're finding ways to win. What do you see?
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: What do your hockey player eyes tell you?
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you kind of hit the nail on
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: the head.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: They don't really have any superstars.
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: So if they're going to try to win games just
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: solely based off skill and that kind of game, they're
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: not going to win a lot. But that's not why
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: they're winning this year. I think they're doing a very
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: good job of just kind of having a deep lineup,
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: using all four lines, just kind of rolling, being relentless.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: Everyone can skate on the team, and that's definitely a
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: big strength for them.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: So they're finding.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: Ways doing, you know, doing the things that they need
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: to do playing as a team.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: And it's, it's fun to watch.
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: And then you see some of these young kids and,
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: you know, Patton, even like Kako coming in, Maddie, just
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: really playing extremely well and kind of just, you know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: pushing the pace for the team. And, you know, I
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: think it's been a good start of the year. They
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: definitely need to try to maintain what they've been doing,
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: but it's been good so far.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: You know, Tyler, I thought in, in, Watching Berkley this year,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: and obviously the connection with him also playing in Spokane
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: where you played and grew up in with the Chiefs. but,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: and I know our fans over there in the Inland
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Empire are just thrilled to see him and what he's doing.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Players taking a step from one year to the next.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: And I thought this was the case in the offseason.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: People were saying, well, how can the crowd can be better?
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: They didn't really add anything. I said, well, one of
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: the reasons is your young guys take a step. That
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: step for him has been significant. Is it just a
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: confidence that you see with him right now? Well I
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: think it's a little bit of both.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: I think it's confidence and I think it's also just
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: you know maturity I mean you just get another year
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: older I mean he's only 20 years old hasn't even
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: hit 21 yet so he still has you know a
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: lot of room to grow and I think that jump
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: from junior to one to pro I you know I
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: made it from junior to the AHL and that was
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: a huge jump and then he went straight to the
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: NHL and that's, I mean, it's so hard to try
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: to describe the difference in that. I mean, you go
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: from playing basically, I mean, everyone's a kid. Some guys are,
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: you know, 15, 16 years old. And then now you're
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: playing grown adults that are just, you know, some of
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: them are just mutants by the way of how big
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: they are and strong.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: So it's, it's such a big difference.
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: And you know, that first year, I think he was
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: trying to get a little bit of a filling out
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: process and, He was able to kind of see what
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: the league is, see what it takes to be a
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: solid player. And I think he went into that summer
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: and worked extremely hard. He said he was, you know,
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: practicing with some of the best players in Vancouver and,
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: you know, just getting the confidence of saying, hey, I
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: can play with these guys. And, you know, when I
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: come back into the season, I'm going to start dominating.
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: And I think that's what he's doing.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Did you hear from anybody back home in Spokane? I
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: know we have a lot of viewers over there watching
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: the games. Did you get some feedback from some of
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: the folks back home?
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: I did. I got a lot of texts from friends, family, everything.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: So it was great.
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: You know, what was good is I actually didn't get
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: any negative stuff so far.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I thought I was going to get a lot more.
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: So it's, you know, it's been good. But yeah, it's
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: just so fun to be able to, you know, be
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: on the screen in front of them. And, you know,
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: they're obviously all big Kraken fans. So it's fun to
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: be a.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Part of the team. Well, there's nothing negative to send.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: It was you guys did a You guys did a
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: great job on the desk on Wednesday. It was really
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: fun to watch, and I'm excited to work with you tomorrow.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: The only negative stuff that JT and I get that.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: You guys won't get that. JT and I get that. Well,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: you're former teammates. So I will see you tomorrow at
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: the Climate Pledge Arena. Get some rest tonight. Enjoy the
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: beautiful weather here on the west side of the state,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: and I'll talk to you soon. I'll see you tomorrow, Tyler. Thanks, man. Awesome.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: See you then. There you go. Tyler Johnson, new member
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: of the Kraken Hockey Network broadcast team. Did a great
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: job yesterday. I'm with us again tomorrow. on TV. We'll
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: take a break. Rob Ryan coming back and we'll update
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: you on all the Seahawks injuries in the headlines next.