Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Virginia Robert's Repsonds To Ghislaine Maxwell's "Undisputed Facts" (Part 2) (5/30/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:03In this episode, we're diving right back into those court
- 0:06documents and we're looking at Virginia Roberts response to Elaine
- 0:11Maxwell and her purported statement of facts Defendants Purported Facts nine.
- 0:18As the District Court noted in the ruling on the
- 0:20joinder motion, Miss Roberts named several individuals, and she offers
- 0:25details about the type of sex acts performed and where
- 0:28they took place. The Court ruled that these lurid details
- 0:31are unnecessary. The factual details regarding whom and where the
- 0:35jane those engaged in sexual activities are immaterial and impertinent,
- 0:40especially considering that these details involved non parties who were
- 0:44not related to the respondent government. Accordingly, these unnecessary details
- 0:48shall be stricken. The court then struck all Miss Roberts
- 0:52factual non parties. The court said the striking of the
- 0:56lurid details was a sanction for Miss Roberts and proper
- 0:59inclusion of them in the motion Miss Robert's statement controverting
- 1:05defendants facts see Miss Roberts's response to point number seven above.
- 1:09Defendants Purported Facts ten. The District Court found not only
- 1:13that the lured details were unnecessary, but also that the motion,
- 1:17with all its luri details was unnecessary because the motion
- 1:21itself recognized that she would not be able to participate
- 1:25as a fact witness to achieve the same result she
- 1:28thought as a party. The Court denied Miss Roberts joined
- 1:31her motion. Miss Robert's statement controverting defendants facts see Miss
- 1:36Roberts response to point number seven above, Defendants Purported Facts eleven.
- 1:42One of the non parties Miss Roberts named repeatedly in
- 1:45the joined her motion was Miss Maxwell. According to the
- 1:49lurid details of Miss Roberts included in the motion, Miss
- 1:52Maxwell personally was involved in a sexual abuse and sex
- 1:56trafficking scheme created by Epstein. Miss Maxwell approached Miss Roberts
- 2:00in nineteen ninety nine, when Miss Roberts was fifteen years old,
- 2:03to a recruiter into the scheme. Miss Maxwell was one
- 2:07of the main women Epstein used to procure underage girls
- 2:10for sexual activities. Miss Maxwell was a primary co conspirator
- 2:15with Epstein in his scheme. She persuaded Miss Roberts to
- 2:18go to Epstein's mansion in a fashion very similar to
- 2:21the manner in which Epstein and his other co conspirators
- 2:24coerced dozens of other children at the mansion. When Miss
- 2:28Roberts began giving Epstein a massage, he and Miss Maxwell
- 2:31turned it into a sexual encounter. Epstein, with the assistance
- 2:35of Miss Maxwell, converted Miss Roberts into a sex slave
- 2:38i d. Miss Roberts was a sex slave from about
- 2:41nineteen ninety nine through two thousand and two. Miss Maxwell
- 2:45also was a co conspirator in Epstein's sexual abuse. Miss
- 2:49Maxwell appreciated the immunity she acquired under Epstein's plea agreement
- 2:54because the immunity protected her from prosecution for the crime
- 2:57she committed in Florida. Miss Max Xwell participated in the
- 3:01sexual abuse of Miss Roberts and others. Miss Maxwell took
- 3:04numerous sexually explicit pictures of underage girls involved in sexual activities,
- 3:09including Miss Roberts. She shared those photos with Epstein as
- 3:14part of her role in Epstein's sexual abuse ring. Miss
- 3:17Maxwell connected Epstein with powerful individuals so that Epstein could
- 3:21traffick Miss Roberts to these persons. Miss Roberts was forced
- 3:25to have sexual relations with Prince Andrew in Miss Maxwell's
- 3:29apartment in London. Miss Maxwell facilitated Miss Roberts sex with
- 3:33Prince Andrew. By acting as a madam for Epstein, Miss
- 3:37Maxwell assisted in internationally trafficking Miss Roberts and numerous other
- 3:41young girls for sexual purposes. Miss Roberts was forced to
- 3:45watch Epstein, Miss Maxwell, and others engage in illegal sexual
- 3:49acts with dozens of underage girls. Miss Robert's statement controverting
- 3:54defendants facts see Miss Roberts response to point number seven.
- 3:58Miss Roberts contests the reference to lurid details. Moreover, the
- 4:03testimony from numerous witnesses corroborates the statements Miss Roberts. Maid
- 4:07Inner joined her motion. CE McCauley declaration Exhibit sixteen. Schoberg's
- 4:13May eighteenth, twenty sixteen deposition. CEA McCaulay declaration at Exhibit
- 4:17four Figueroa June twenty fourth, twenty sixteen. CE McCauley declaration
- 4:23at Exhibit fourteen. Ronaldo Rizzo, June tenth, twenty sixteen. C.
- 4:28McCauley declaration at Exhibit twelve. Lynn Miller's May twenty fourth,
- 4:32twenty sixteen deposition. C. McCauley declaration at Exhibit thirteen. Joseph
- 4:37mccary's June twenty first deposition. Ceamccauley declaration at Exhibit fifteen.
- 4:43David Rodgers deposition, cemacauley declaration, Rogers Deposition Exhibit number one.
- 4:49CEE McCaulay declaration at Exhibit ten. Marsenkova deposition. Cemccaulay declaration
- 4:55at Exhibit eight. Kellen deposition, ceamacaully declaration at Exhibit one. A.
- 5:00Lessi deposition, ceamacaulay declaration at Exhibit thirty. US Attorney victim
- 5:05notification letter seamccauley declaration at exhibit thirty three, July two
- 5:10thousand and one, New York Presbyterian Hospital records. See McCauley
- 5:14declaration at Exhibit twenty eight. Message bad evidencing defendant arranging
- 5:19to have underage girls and young women come to Epstein's home.
- 5:23McCauley declaration at Exhibit twenty nine. Black book in which
- 5:27defendant and other household staff maintained a roster of underage girls.
- 5:32Seamccauleay declaration at Exhibit thirty two. The folder defendant sent
- 5:36to Thailand with Miss Roberts bearing defendant's phone number. See
- 5:40mccaulley declaration at Exhibit thirty nine. The Palm Beach Police
- 5:43report showing that Epstein used women and girls to collect
- 5:47underage girls for his abuse. See mccaulley declaration at Exhibit
- 5:51forty one. Epstein's flight logs showing that defendant flew with
- 5:55Miss Roberts twenty three times Defendants Purported Facts number twelve
- 6:00in the jointer motion. Miss Roberts also alleged she was
- 6:03forced to have sex with Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz,
- 6:07model scout Jean Luke Brunel, and many other powerful men,
- 6:11including numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents,
- 6:17a well known prime minister, and other world leaders. Miss
- 6:21Robert's statement controverting defendants facts see response to point number
- 6:25seven and eleven above Defendants Purported Facts Number thirteen. Miss
- 6:30Roberts said, after serving for four years as a sex slave,
- 6:34she managed to escape to a foreign country and hide
- 6:37out from Epstein and his co conspirators for years. Miss
- 6:40Robert's statement controverting defendants facts. Agreed that Miss Roberts made
- 6:45that statement and has since discovered evidence that indicates she
- 6:49was mistaken on the exact timeframe of her abuse, and
- 6:52was with defendant and Jeffrey Epstein from the years two
- 6:55thousand to two thousand and two, the defendants for afforded facts.
- 7:00Miss Roberts suggested the government was part of Epstein's conspiracy
- 7:04when it secretly negotiated a non prosecution agreement with Epstein
- 7:09precluding federal prosecution of Epstein and his co conspirators. The
- 7:13government's secrecy, Miss Roberts alleged, was motivated by its fear
- 7:18that Miss Roberts would raise powerful objections to the agreement
- 7:22that would have shed tremendous public light on Epstein and
- 7:25other powerful individuals. Miss Robert's statement controverting defendants facts. Miss
- 7:31Roberts did not suggest that the government was part of
- 7:34Epstein's conspiracy to commit sex offenses. The CVR case deals
- 7:39with whether the government failed in their responsibilities to the
- 7:42victims to inform the victims that the government was working
- 7:46out in NPA, and it is Miss roberts belief that
- 7:49the government did fail to so inform the victims and
- 7:52intentionally did not inform the victims because he expected serious
- 7:56objection from many of the victims might prevent the government
- 8:00from finalizing an NPA with Epstein. See McCauley declaration at
- 8:04Exhibit fifty. Joined her motion Robert zero zero three one
- 8:08nine Dash zero zero three three three. Defendants purported facts fifteen. Notably,
- 8:15the other Jane Doe, who joined Miss Roberts's motion, who
- 8:18alleged she was sexually abused on many occasions by Epstein,
- 8:22was unable to corroborate many of Miss Roberts's allegations. Miss
- 8:27Robert's statement controverting defendants facts. This is untrue. The other
- 8:31Jane Doe could corroborate many of Miss Roberts's allegations based
- 8:35on a similar pattern of abuse that she suffered by Epstein.
- 8:39She did not know Miss Roberts, though redacted, who was
- 8:42deposed in this case and who was a minor corroborates
- 8:45the same pattern of abuse. See McCauley declaration at Exhibit seven.
- 8:51Defendants purported facts. Also, notably, in her multiple and lengthy,
- 8:55consensual interviews with Miss Churcher three years earlier, Miss Robbertz
- 9:00told Miss Churchier of virtually none of the details she
- 9:03described in the jointer motion. Miss Robert's statement controverting defendant's facts.
- 9:08This is untrue. Furthermore, defendant does not offer any citation
- 9:13or evidence on this point. Defendant statement here is knowingly false.
- 9:17Having read the articles and taken Miss Robert's deposition, defendant
- 9:21knows that Miss Roberts did reveal details in twenty eleven
- 9:25consistent with those in the jointer motion. Ce McCauley declaration
- 9:29at Exhibit thirty one Roberts zero zero three six seven
- 9:33eight FBI redacted three h two Roberts zero zero one
- 9:37two three five DASH one two four six Defendants Purported
- 9:42Facts Number seventeen. Miss Maxwell's response to Miss roberts lurid accusations.
- 9:47The January twenty fifteen statement, as Miss Roberts and her
- 9:51lawyers expected before District Judge Mara in the CVRA action,
- 9:56could strike the lurid details of Miss roberts allegations in
- 9:59the jointer motion. Members of the media obtained copies of
- 10:03the motion Miss Robert's statement controverting defendants facts see Miss
- 10:07Roberts response to point seven above. Defendants Purported Facts number eighteen.
- 10:13At mister Barden's direction, on January three, twenty fifteen, mister
- 10:18Gales sent to numerous representatives of British media organizations and
- 10:22email containing a quotable statement on behalf of Miss Maxwell.
- 10:26The email was sent to more than six and probably
- 10:29less than thirty media representatives. It was not sent to
- 10:33non media representatives. Miss Robert's statement controverting defendants facts. Defendant
- 10:39falsely claims that at mister Barden's direction, on January three,
- 10:43twenty fifteen, mister Gales sent numerous representatives of British media
- 10:48organizations and email containing a quotable statement on behalf of
- 10:52Miss Maxwell. This is a blatant falsehood about the document
- 10:55that is at the heart of this litigation. Record evidence
- 10:58shows that gu sent the email at Defendant's direction, not
- 11:02at mister Barton's direction. Indeed, on the evening before his deposition,
- 11:06mister Gao produced an email exchange he had with defendant
- 11:09in which defendant directs mister Gao to send the press statement. Chronologically,
- 11:15this email comes at the end of various other email
- 11:17exchanges between defendant and Gal that discuss issuing a press release.
- 11:22The subject line of this email that Defendant wrote to
- 11:25Gao states, urgent this is the statement, thereby instructing Gao
- 11:29to release this statement to the press. Shortly after defendant
- 11:33sent this email to Gao directing him to release the statement,
- 11:37Goo distributed the statement to multiple media outlets. Neither Defendant
- 11:41nor Gal have produced any email in which Barden directed
- 11:45Gao to issue this press release, nor can they despite
- 11:49sending it herself and despite it being responsive to six
- 11:52court ordered search terms, defendant failed to produce this email.
- 11:56Her press agent Go produced this the evening before his
- 11:59debut position on November seventeenth, twenty sixteen. At the deposition,
- 12:04mister Gal authenticated this email and confirmed that the defendant
- 12:08authorized the statement. C McCauley declaration at Exhibit six. Together,
- 12:14the email and Gal's testimony unequivocally established that Defendant, not Barden,
- 12:19directed and commanded Gal to publish the defamatory statement. Accordingly,
- 12:24the first sentence of the defendant's paragraph eighteen is false
- 12:28the second sentence. This email was sent to more than
- 12:31six and probably less than thirty media representatives, amidst the
- 12:34fact that not only did gu admit to emailing the
- 12:37statement to the press, but he also read it to
- 12:40over thirty representatives over the phone. Cmacauley declaration at Exhibit six.
- 12:46Defendants purported facts nineteen. Among the media representatives were Martin
- 12:51Robinson of The Daily Mail, Ppeache of The Independent, Nick
- 12:55Summerland of The Mirror, David Brown of the Times, and
- 12:58Nick always and Joe Anne Pugh of the BBC and
- 13:01David Mercer of the Press Association. These representatives were selected
- 13:06based on their request after the joinder motion was filed
- 13:10for a response from Miss Maxwell to Miss Roberts' allegations.
- 13:13In the motion, miss Robert's statement controverting defendants facts. Miss
- 13:18Roberts agrees to the first sentence, the second sentence is false. Accordingly,
- 13:23there is no evidence that Gau or anyone else selected
- 13:26journalist for a response, or that there was any selection
- 13:30process whatsoever. To the contrary, gu testified that anyone who
- 13:34inquired received a reference to the January twenty fifteen defamatory response.
- 13:40Question to the extent you can recall or could estimate,
- 13:44how many other emails do you believe you sent bearing
- 13:47that statement that's in Exhibit number two. Answer, I really
- 13:51can't remember, but certainly more than six and probably less
- 13:55than thirty somewhere in between. Anytime there was an incoming query,
- 14:00it was either dealt with on the telephone by referring
- 14:02them back to the two statements of March twenty eleven
- 14:06and January twenty fifteen, or someone would email them the statement,
- 14:10so no one was left unanswered broadly is the is
- 14:14where we are, but I can't remember every single person
- 14:17we reached out to seem Acauley Declaration at Exhibit six.
- 14:22All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right here, and
- 14:24then the next episode we'll pick up where we left off.
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