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Am I Really Hearing God? How to Discern His Voice in Difficult Seasons With Rachael Groll · She Speaks Life - Christian Women, Strengthen Your Faith, Bible Study, Grow Spiritually In Christ

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Hey, welcome back to she speaks live podcast.
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Today's conversation is 1 I believe will minister deeply to
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anyone who has ever wondered, am I really hearing God's voice?
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Maybe you've prayed you stepped down faith and then faced some
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heartbreak, confusion or some disappointment.
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Maybe you've questioned whether it was God leading you or was it
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just your own emotions. Well, our guest today, Rachel
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Grohl, knows that struggle personally.
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After an international adoption journey ended in devastation
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when the son she was trying to adopt was trafficked, her faith
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was tested in so many ways she had ever imagined.
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After investing in in lots of prayer and hope and finances and
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love into bringing a child home, her and her husband had to
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choose to trust God through profound loss.
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But through that painful season, Rachel discovered a life
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anchoring truth. God's voice never contradicts
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His Word and discernment is not built on feelings.
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It it grows through knowing the character, promises, and truth
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of God through Scripture. Rachel is an author, speaker,
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Bible teacher, missions advocate, and the host of
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Hearing Jesus and Hearing Jesus for Kids podcast.
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She is passionate about helping people make scripture practical
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for everyday life. And today we'll be talking about
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her newly released devotional called Hearing Jesus 365 daily
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encounters with Jesus and diving into how we can grow in
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confidence, hearing God's voice, discerning truth and trusting
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him in difficult seasons and learning to obey his leading
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with peace. This is such a powerful and
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hopeful conversation, so let's dive in.
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Here's guest Rachel Roll. Hi, Rachel.
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Welcome to She Speaks Live. Yeah.
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Thanks for having me, excited to spend some time chatting
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together today. Yes, I am looking forward to it
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too. And I absolutely love this
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message that we are going to be talking about.
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You had written a devotional book called Hearing Jesus 365
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Daily Devotions for Women, and it's really about recognizing
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and responding to God's voice and every season of our life.
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And we can't get enough of that encouragement.
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So I'm looking forward to hearing more about your back
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story and everything inside this devotional.
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But before we do, I always love to kick off with what is your
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favorite scripture verse? Or maybe it's a scripture verse
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that's just resonating with you right now.
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And why? Where I've been parked at right
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now is a couple verses out of Psalm 119.
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And so if it's OK, I was just going to share those couple
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verses. Absolutely.
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It starts in verse 773. It says you made me.
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You created me. Now give me the sense to follow
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your commands. May all who fear you finding me
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A cause for joy, for I put my hope in your word.
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I know, O Lord, that your regulations are fair.
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You discipline me because I needed it.
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Now let your unfailing love comfort me, just as you promised
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me, your servant. And you know that line that
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strikes me in there is you disciplined me because I needed
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it. And I'll be perfectly honest,
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the Lord told me a couple days ago to start writing out Psalm
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119. And for anybody that has studied
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the Psalms, we're in the Psalms right now on my show, but Psalm
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119 is the longest Psalm that we have.
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And so I got out my notebook and I have had my Bible sitting next
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to my bed and I just have it started.
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I just was dragging my feet because I'm like, that's an
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undertaking. It's going to take me a minute.
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And it was so that's, that was a couple days ago.
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And then this morning, I was actually doing some research for
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my show, for something that I'm going to be working on for a
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prayer series. And I was working through a
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number of resources. And the Lord drew my attention
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to something called the the Golden Prayer.
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And I was like, oh, I, I wonder what that is?
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And I clicked on it. And don't you know, when I
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opened it up, it was Psalm 119. And it was just this sacred echo
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with the Lord. It just kind of felt like he
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just put his hand on my back. It was like kind of kindly
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gently pushing me back to what he had already told me to do.
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And I thought, man, that's such a clear example to me of the
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discipline of a loving father. Like, OK, girl, I already told
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you what you need to do. Can you stop wasting time and go
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back to doing what I told you to do?
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And I love that because one of the things I say in this book,
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which I think kind of is a nice segue, is yes.
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You know, there are these moments where the Lord speaks to
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us and we know it. I call it in our nowhere.
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I tell my kids we know it in our nowhere.
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You know, he speaks to our heart.
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But the primary way he speaks to us is through his word.
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And twice in the last week, the Lord has brought me back to
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Psalm 119 because he clearly has something that he wants to teach
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me in it. And I even though I've been
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dragging my feet, it was just a clear reminder this morning of
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the kindness of God, but also the discipline of God.
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Yeah, I love it because the discipline is good.
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It's for our good, but it's coming from a good father.
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So we can trust in that and know that he has a plan.
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He wants to show us or there's a purpose behind it or you know,
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and it may not just be for us necessarily, it's for others who
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need to hear the message like the, the, the, the discipline of
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going through Psalm 119 on your podcast, which by the way, is
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called hearing Jesus. For those of you that are
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interested in tuning into that. And I love it because he knows
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exactly who's going to hit play on that episode or that series
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that you're doing that need to hear about Psalm 119.
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Let's dive into this message that you are going to be sharing
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with us. So first, like for you just to
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share a little bit of your back story and really what inspired
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you to write this devotional hearing Jesus and, and if it's
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attached or if it has anything to do with beginning your
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podcast. Well, actually, I think the
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origins of this book started probably when I was about 15
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years old, where as I was coming to faith and learning about who
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God was and understanding who he was in my life.
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You know, I didn't get saved until 15.
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And and prior to that, I had lived through a lot of really
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difficult things. And so there was addiction and
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poverty and abuse and all sorts of mess and brokenness in my
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life. And I think in some ways I may
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have just felt, even if I didn't say this out loud, I may have
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just felt like maybe God wasn't there those first 15 years of my
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life because it took me until age 15 to come to faith and to
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believe in him. So maybe just prior to that, he
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wasn't there. And it's in some ways it made it
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feel like it's, it made it easier to think about those
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things I had grown up experiencing because if God just
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wasn't there, then then maybe that was OK.
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And it wasn't actually until a couple years ago when I was in
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therapy actually with a Christian therapist.
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And she said, you know, it's not that God wasn't there.
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He was there and he grieved those things alongside of you.
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And when she said that, it was almost like a light bulb moment
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for me where I started to remember all these things that
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the Lord did and the way he actually was speaking my life.
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But it just took me a minute to recognize him.
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And so, you know, from a very young age, at the age of 15,
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when I got saved, I also felt the, the call the full time
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ministry at the same time, which I don't know how common that is,
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but I knew from from the moment I got saved that the Lord was
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also calling me to full time ministry.
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And while it took me some years to kind of learn what that voice
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actually sounded like, I now know that from the very
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beginning, he, he was calling my name.
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It was just a matter of not just hearing him on my end, but
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learning how to obey what he was actually saying.
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Yeah, absolutely. You know, there was a season in
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my life where I was really pursuing him and seeking out
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Lord. I want to hear your voice like
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all these other people that can, you know, hear from you and know
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what to do, have direction, have this wisdom.
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And, you know, really it was just constantly having my Bible
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open. Like you said, he speaks often
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through his word and, and, and just sitting quietly, you know,
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through my prayer and taking the time.
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I think that is definitely an issue with us.
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We kind of rushed through it like, OK, I'm done, you know,
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same what I want to say and praying.
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And then we kind of go on with our list that we have to do for
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the day. And so just having that, that
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self-control exercises to control and that discipline to
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sit and to just listen. And as I was doing that
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consistently, I started to to sense this pattern in my spirit
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of the familiar voice. And I often give this
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illustration, my son, my youngest one would get, I
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wouldn't say get lost in stores frequently, but I feel like out
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of all the other kids, we, we lost them briefly at Disneyland
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and then we lost them a little bit at Costco.
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So this is at Costco where we're like Brayden, Brayden, where are
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you? You know, and my husband always
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had this whistle that the kids would be familiar with.
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So my husband did the whistle, and then, I kid you not, within
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seconds he comes running. Meanwhile, we were, you know,
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yelling his name. Familiar voice here, but it was
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the whistle that made him respond.
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And right after that or shortly after that, we're driving home
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and I sensed the Holy Spirit telling me this is, this is how
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familiar you are to my voice. Like you, you respond to it
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quickly because you recognize it.
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And by recognizing it is, is just my son heard it over and
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over again. He knew it was a whistle to from
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his dad, from his father to get attention and to get his
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attention. And so this was such a sweet
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illustration that the Lord gave me that this is exactly how it
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is. It's like the sheep will know my
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voice because they know me. And so anyway, I had to share
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that bit because it was just so precious that the Lord gave me
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that understanding, standing and that insight I love.
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That And I think sometimes, you know, we might consciously
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think, OK, yeah, God is our father, but I think sometimes we
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forget that he's a good father. And part of knowing him and
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recognizing his voice comes through the context of
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relationship, of spending time with him, of reading his word.
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And when we read his word and we start to understand how he
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speaks, it helps us recognize his voice when he's speaking to
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our heart. You know, one of the things that
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I say in the book that I just always try to remind people of
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is that his voice will never contradict his word.
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And so when we learn his word and we learn his character and
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his nature, it's so similar to what you're describing with with
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your husband and your son. You know, I recognize my
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husband's voice because I spent a lot of time with him.
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I think sometimes we forget that it's very similar when it comes
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to our relationship with the Lord.
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Absolutely, 100%. OK.
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There was a time in your life that you share that was a little
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bit difficult to discern earn the Lord speaking to you rather
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than, you know, if it was out of emotions or insecurities.
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So what helped you really clarify that that that was the
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Lorde voice speaking to you? Well, you know, it really was
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the Lord himself. You know, there was a season of
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my life where I was on staff at a church and I remember sitting
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around a table with all my male counterparts and I was the
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children's pastor at the time and, and I had whatever the
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issue was. I don't ever really remember
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what the issue was, but I had a word from the Lord that the Lord
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had clearly spoken to me and I brought it up in this meeting
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and it was pretty quickly dismissed.
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And then probably like 20 minutes later, a male
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counterpart, he brought up the exact same thing almost
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verbatim, the same thing I had said.
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And he was taken seriously. And it was so confusing for me
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because I was in a church that obviously valued me as a leader.
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I was on staff. I was the children's pastor at
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the time, but not enough to to take what I was saying at face
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value in the moment as much as they did with my male
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counterpart. And I remember just really
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struggling with that and trying to reconcile that with, with
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what I knew from my leadership, what I knew from my own
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relationship with the Lord. And clearly, you know, what I
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had said was, you know, something they ended up
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listening to, even though it was delivered to somebody else.
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And so I obviously was on the right track.
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And I was in a worship service later that evening just kind of
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reconciling that with the Lord and, and struggling with it.
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And Lord said, you know, Rachel, you do hear me.
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And, and it was in that moment when He confirmed that in my
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spirit, which number 1, He was speaking that to me.
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So I'm so thankful that he did that.
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But #2 I recognized that, you know, I had to get to a place
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where my relationship with him meant more than the validation
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from even my male counterparts on staff at the church, or even
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more than my situation, or even more than what somebody else
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might say. Yeah, that's a valid word from
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the Lord. It had to get to a place where I
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was 100% confident in my relationship with the Lord, no
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matter what anybody else had to say.
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And so really what that did is it sent me on this path to lean
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in and to really get to a place where I was understanding what
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that actually meant. And you know, I, I probably like
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a lot of people, had gotten to a place of complacency in my
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relationship with the Lord. You know, I was on staff at the
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church. I was teaching the kids, I was
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preparing curriculum, I was preparing resources.
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But when it came time to my own relationship with the Lord, that
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kind of got on the back burner a lot of days.
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And you know, I wouldn't say that was intentional, but I
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didn't intentionally guard that time.
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So that's kind of where it ended up.
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And it was really a wake up call for me where I needed to
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reorient my schedule and really make him a priority, my time
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with him the priority, and then everything else spill out of
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that. And so for me, I think that was
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one of those moments where I had to kind of flip the script and
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lean in to his word and start to really prioritize that and then
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let everything else kind of flow out from that, like I said.
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Yeah, give yourself a reset. I mean, that's so easy to do
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because you're doing good things for the Lord.
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And we can get so tied up in the doing and we forget about just
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being being in his presence, being with Him.
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So that's good that you recognize that.
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And that prevents us from burnout as well.
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So you grew up in a family that was impacted by poverty and
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addiction that you had shared. And how has this guided you and
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sharing your faith with others? How has that really helped you
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with being a witness for Jesus? Well, I think.
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One of the things that the Lord has revealed to me over time is
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that my relationship with him is not just there for the good
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moments. He's there for the broken
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moments as well. And I think as someone that has
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come from a lot of brokenness, I can recognize that and other
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people, and I hear from people all the time, whether it's, you
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know, through emails or from a show or in person.
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We live in a broken world, which means that there are broken
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people that are desperate for a real relationship with Him.
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And I think the, you know, sometimes relationship that a
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lot of people have that's like a Sunday only relationship with
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the Lord, it's just not cutting it anymore.
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You know, in the world that we live in with the constant
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barrage of stressful things on the news cycle or inflation or
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gas rates or, you know, family members making bad choices or
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all any number of things, we live in a world where it's
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evident that we are surrounded by brokenness and this side of
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heaven, it's going to continue to be that way.
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That's part of the reason why Jesus came.
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We need him. And so I think my primary goal
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is first selfishly is to know him, to really know who he is.
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And then beyond that, I want my children, I want my friends, I
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want my family, I want my listeners.
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I want your listeners to really know him.
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And so one of the, the ways that that the Lord has helped me to
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do that is through writing resources like this devotional,
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because I too, like you, I would read devotionals in the past,
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yes, and I would get through them.
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And by the end of the day, I would forget what I had written
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or what I had read. Or even if I didn't forget, I
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didn't necessarily make the connection to what that meant
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for my life today. What, what would that have to do
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with how I was raising my kids or how I was loving my husband
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even though we were fighting or, you know, some sort of real
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world example. And So what I tried to really do
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in this devotional is to create a connection between what the
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scripture is saying, but our actual real life emotions and
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issues that we're facing today so that readers have something
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real to walk away from. Because that's the resource that
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I needed in some of those moments of brokenness.
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And, you know, as much as I love to sit down and dive into
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passage of Scripture and really meditate on it, and, you know,
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my listeners know and my readers and my other books know that I
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love to do that. There are sometimes moments
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where I don't have the capacity to do it.
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I don't have either the emotional capacity or the
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physical capacity to do it. And yet I still long for that
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connection with the Lord. And so this devotional, they're
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short, they're maybe 3 minutes. It takes you to read through
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them, but it gives you some real scripture.
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It gives you some real connection and gives you real
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prayer. And, you know, as a mom of
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three, there were moments where I'm raising babies and I have
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one on the hip and I've got I'm loading the dishwasher and
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trying to get dinner going. And the last thing, honestly,
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that I would have time to do would be to sit down and open my
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Bible and look at the original context of the Greek and the
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Hebrew. It just wasn't happening, you
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know? But if I can have this little
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resource that's tucked away in the laundry room or in the
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bathroom or even on the kitchen counter where just a couple
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minutes where a Mama can keep her baby on her hip and read
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through that. Or in the midst of a busy day,
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in between meetings at work, you can pull it out of your purse
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and read it for a couple minutes.
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It's something real and tangible that will help you connect with
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the Lord in a very real way. And that was really by intention
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and by design. I wanted to give people an
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opportunity to have those moments even in the midst of a
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really busy day. Yeah, that's so good.
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Yeah, 'cause we need the long, we need the, you know, medium
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length, and we need the short length.
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I mean, I think all three of those are good.
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And there were times I got up an hour before the baby's dead, you
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know, just to get my word in. And that was a sacrifice.
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I mean, you're still going through broken sleep.
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And but I knew what it it did for me when I did sacrifice that
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time, like the Lord supernaturally gave me energy,
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gave me strength. I felt like a better mom, a
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better wife during that day and I got involved in women's Bible
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studies at my local church. So that made me accountable to,
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you know, go through the homework or dissect these
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passages and really do a deep dive and study.
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There was another thing that you had mentioned the application.
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I am so about that. Like how?
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How can I? With this in my world, how can I
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place this in my daily life? Because I'm always like the how.
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And so many times we could read something, but it's not really
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sharing the how. How can I apply this to my life?
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I'm all about, you know, doing the word, not just hearing the
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word, but actually putting it into action.
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And so I love that you offer that as well.
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OK, transitioning and pivoting to your experience with a failed
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adoption. When I read this, my heart broke
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as I was reading this and I'm so sorry you had to go through
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that. Can you share with the listeners
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about that experience and how that really LED you to
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experience the voice of the Lord and got you into the global
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adoption care system? Yeah, so years ago, my husband
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and I, we suffered 3 miscarriages.
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And I also have three daughters. And you know, it wasn't ever
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medical or it was never told to me by a doctor.
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But in my mind, I just thought, well, maybe I can't carry boys
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because I have 3 beautiful, healthy pregnancies that
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resulted in girls. But then in between that I had
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these three miscarriages. And so I often would just say,
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look, I can't carry boys. And in the midst of that process
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and that season of my life, I again, I was in a worship
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service and the Lord spoke over me that I would have a son.
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And I kind of didn't know what to do with that at first, but I
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went home and I shared it with my husband and he said, well, if
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the Lord says we're going to have a son, we're going to start
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praying for our son. And you know, Long story short,
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through a mission trip later that year, one of the first
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trips I ever took to Africa, I met a little boy that the Lord
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birthed in my heart as as a child of my heart.
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And so we spent the next five years working to adopt him and
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bring him home. And then at the tail end of the
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process, I'm talking like our last court appearance before a
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judge. It was on a Friday afternoon at
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4 O clock in the afternoon, our lawyer went to go pick up our
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little guy from the children's home and he was gone.
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And it turns out that he, along with a number of other children,
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were sold by the house mother because basically she knew that
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she couldn't get any more money out of the Americans and she
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sold the children. And so that started us on this
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very long process of working with the government to try to
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track down those kids and bring them back.
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And, you know, now at this point, our little guy is not in
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our home. He's actually in Germany, but he
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was of part of a larger trafficking ring that we were
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able to uncover with the government and stop and put a
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stop to. And, you know, there was a
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number of children that we were able to bring back and reunite
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them with their families. But there was a number of
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children that were, you know, because this whole process took
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years. If the children were pretty much
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trafficked for the reason of adoption, an easier route to
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adoption, then the embassy made the decision to leave those
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children in those homes. And they only brought the
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children back that were in dangerous situations.
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And so for us, you know, it was a season where step by step, we
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felt the Lord guiding, directing every moment of our lives.
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And yet the outcome did not look anything like what I thought the
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outcome was going to be. And I would be lying if I said
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that that didn't mess with my theology a little bit at the
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time. But at the same time, you know,
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being face down on the floor and weeping over this son of my
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heart, that by this point it was five years of relationship, I
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still was at a place where I believed the Lord at His word,
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even when it didn't make sense. I believe the Lord was who He
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said he was. I believe He is who He says He
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is. And even in moments where I
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don't understand, I had to consciously make the choice to
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still trust him. And I think it was the first
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time in my life where I had to do that, where what I was seeing
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in the physical didn't line up with what I was hearing in the
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spiritual. And I think there are a lot of
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people that go through hard seasons like that and it drives
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a wedge between their relationship with the Lord and
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and their heart. But for me, I remember just
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being weeping and saying, Lord, I don't understand, but I trust
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you. And I think that moment of
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vulnerability and honesty and trust really is what the Lord
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used to propel me into the next season of my life.
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And you know, Fast forward five years later, I was delivering a
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message to a group of pastors and our Ugandan counterpart said
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to me afterwards, you know, Rachel, there is not anyone
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within this organization that fights for these children that
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the way that you do. He said you fight for them like
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a mother. And it was in that moment that
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the Lord brought me back to this moment.
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I had been on my knees weeping over our son, and I realized
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that while the Lord certainly is not the author of pain, he
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certainly is the Redeemer of pain.
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And I recognized that there is an aspect of my heart that would
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not fight for kids on the other side of the world in the same
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way had I not gone through what I'd gone through.
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And there, you know, now is a whole new crop of over 8000
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children that I was creating policies for and I was working
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towards, of creating different kinds of spiritual programs for
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and training people for. And the impact that I was able
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to make because I was fighting for the kids from a place of
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really having that birth in my heart all those years before.
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It really helped me understand how the Lord works.
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And, and literally that scripture that says where the
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enemy meant it for evil, the Lord used it for good.
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And so I'm not going to lie and say that those years were easy.
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There were some of the hardest years I've ever lived.
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But now at this point in my life, I can look back and say
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that those were some of the moments where I truly did learn
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how to hear the voice of the Lord.
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Because of my desperate prayers, Because of the tear stained
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carpet on on my bedroom floor. Because of those moments of
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desperation where I was desperate for a word from the
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Lord, Because of the brokenness and the sorrow and the pain that
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I had walked through. And in those moments, He became
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very, very real to me. And while I I would never want
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to repeat some of those moments, I am thankful for the way he
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revealed himself to me in those seasons of my life.
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Wow, amazing. Thank you for sharing that.
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You know, and I'm even looking back of when that time was where
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I was really pressing in to want to hear him and that was a a
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dark season that I was going through.
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So there's that, there's that pattern where you're really
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desperately wanting to hear and how that is that trajectory or
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that springboard that gets you to really draw in close to Him.
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There are choices that create these obstacles that will keep
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us from fully experiencing His blessings.
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You share. How can we remove these
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barriers? Could you expand on that a
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little bit more? Well, I think we all have
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different barriers, and maybe even different barriers are
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different seasons of our lives. I think sin certainly can be a
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barrier to hearing God's voice, and I think obvious sin can be a
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barrier for sure. But I think sometimes even
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hidden sin that we may not be even willing to admit to
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ourselves can be a barrier. I think the noise of the world
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can be a barrier. So often we wake up in the
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morning and the first thing we do is we check our social media
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and pretty soon our hearts are distracted, whether it's from,
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you know, being influenced to buy the next latest greatest
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thing or with the news of the day or just cute cat videos,
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we're distracted. And now we've wasted 15 minutes
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that we could have been spending with the Lord.
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And so I think there are some practical things that we can do
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to to remove some of those barriers.
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But then, and I also think in a lot of ways, religion can be a
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barrier. You know, I know a lot of women
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who faithfully go to church every single Sunday and they
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might even attend mile study, but they're not regularly
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spending time with the Lord the rest of the week.
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And so whether that is spending time listening and and being in
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the presence and worshiping him, listening to some worship music
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or carving out some intentional time to just focus on what he
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has to say or even listening. I think we've all been guilty of
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doing the laundry list prayers where we tell all the the Lord
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of all the things that are burdening our heart, but we
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don't take the time to sit and just listen with him.
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And you know, there's those things can be barriers in a very
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real way. I think I don't in our lives can
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be barriers as a as a mom, I often spend those quiet moments
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that I have worrying about my kids instead of praying for my
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kids. You know, that's a discipline I
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have to be very careful of because the enemy wants to
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distract my heart and and help allow me to to meditate on worry
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instead of meditate on God's word.
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And so I think barriers can look different for for each of us in
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a in a different way depending on the season where life that
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we're in. But I think even and just
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recognizing that there are barriers and, and realizing that
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the Lord wants us to hear from him, the Lord created us to be
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in relationship with him to hear his voice.
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And I mean, it's why he's called the word.
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It's why we have the scriptures because he wants to speak to us.
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And so I think when we reframe our perspective on that and we
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shifted and we recognize so much of this is more about me than it
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is about him. So if he's silent, why is that?
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Is it because I'm not listening? Is it because I'm busy?
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Is it because there's sin in my life that I've left to go
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unchecked? You know what?
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What's in my heart that is keeping me from Him right now?
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And that's going to be a little bit different for everybody.
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And like I said, even in different seasons, that can look
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a little bit different. Yeah, that's so good.
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And I love that. You know, it's key of the
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recognizing because then we can just come into prayer and go God
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like cleanse me, show me, you know, convict my heart.
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And you know, the enemy, his primary way to get to us is
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deception. And he goes straight for the
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mind, you know, and that's where the that worry and fear comes
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in. And so if we are filling
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ourselves up with the opposite God's word to just, you know,
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defend and to attack what he's trying to throw at us, then
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it'll be easier to not buy into it and buy into that deception.
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And and, you know, and just coming to him and having the
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Lord point out those barriers for you.
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That's that's so good. OK, I actually I love to end
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every episode with a take away. Those that listen know the the
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pattern to the episodes and this take away is something for the
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listener to ponder on or take action in.
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Or maybe it's something you're currently offering.
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Well. I think if you were somebody
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that wants to grow in this area of learning how to listen for
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God's voice, one thing that I have on my website right now is
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a free five day contemplative prayer series.
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It's an audio series where I just walk you through some time
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where we meditate on some scripture and there's some
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prompts there to kind of get you into a place where the posture
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of your heart is listening. And I think for me, especially
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in the beginning when I'm trying to practice this discipline of
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listening, I have no problem praying.
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But as a busy talker, for me to sit quietly and listen was a
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struggle. And so I think that might be a
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good resource for people. You can find that on my website.
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But also just recognizing that the Lord wants to speak.
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You know, often when we feel like he's gone silent, it's an
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opportunity and an invitation to lean in.
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And you know, when, when you're with somebody, if you think
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about that, if you're with somebody and they start
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whispering and they kind of go quiet, it causes us to lean in
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to pay attention to what they're saying.
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I think often God does that with us as well.
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Well, thank you, Rachel for coming on here sharing your
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devotional with us, Hearing Jesus, 365 daily devotions for
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US women. I love it.
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