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MHH #1199: Bo Nix Gets No Respect From NFL.com · Mile High Huddle Podcast

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Mile High Huddle Podcast with your football priests, Chad Jensen, and Zach Kilmer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember, Broncos Country is not a geographic location.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a state of being.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to get to this right out of the gates and we'll get to some halos and some awesome folks in the super chat community and the members here in a second, but Zach the NFL dot coms who was Nick shook ranked kind of as a retro speck of here's the final quarterback rankings of 2025.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bonyx checks in as a quote unquote tier three quarterback at number 18.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you make of that, my brother?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I can't stop shaking my head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I could go on a rant chat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of what I've been saying since Bowenix was drafted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy that he's disrespected like this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he walked on water, his critics would say, it's because he couldn't swim.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yada Yada, I've said it a billion times before, and it's true about him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little disheartening that it's still happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I put it out there on Twitter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are not 17 better quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: compared to Bonix who took his team chat to the doorstep of the Super Bowl if he didn't get hurt the Broncos would have been in the Super Bowl, and you never know they could have won the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not saying he's top five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying he's the best in the NFL, but to say he's 18th, I haven't heard slender like this since profile ball focus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's insane, but unfortunately, it's all too familiar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me ask you guys this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me if this sounds like the 18th best quarter back in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You ready?
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He ranks eighth in passing yards with 3,931 does Boneyx.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He ranked 10th in touchdown passes with 25.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In his second season as a pro, the Broncos co-led the NFL in wins with 14.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They tied the franchise single season record by the way in wins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They dethroned the precious Kansas City
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[SPEAKER_01]: secured the number one playoff seed, Bonyx outdooled Josh Allen in the division around of the playoffs, and basically had his team set up for a Super Bowl birth before the free injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does that sound to you, Zach, like the 18th best quarterback in the league?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a joke, dude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't even a number 18 Chad before the season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he was already in like the 14, 15 tier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So to knock him down and they ranked him, what was it in the article?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think 20 this time last season for 2025, Bonyx to only move him up two spots considering the season that he had and look at some of the other quarterbacks that are ahead of him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have it pulled up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I might be wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Caleb Williams, I think he's number 10.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's substantially higher than Bonyx and Bonyx took his team further.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Caleb Williams, this is the sexier name.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For whatever reason, they, not you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I shouldn't say it about anyone here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But they hear the name Bonyx.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And their immediate reaction, their automatic reaction, is to spew something negative.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they would hear the name Caleb Williams or Drake may, their inclination would be to say something positive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty sickening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You say that because the same people who will say, who will dock bonics hand out some demerits because all he's a product of champagne, you know, like, you know, Sean Payton's made him what he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see those same people saying that about Caleb Williams because of Ben Johnson, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or Jordan Love and LaFluer and let's go on and on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we got to get to the bottom of this because that i don't think it's really just the bronco bias it's a genuine bonyx bias and do we boil it down to all the pre-draft twenty twenty four takes that he was a day two guy that was overdrafted i mean at this stage i just have a hard time believing that could be true because of all the good that he is done as a young pro like you know the the number of wins the number of yards the touchdowns i mean he's in elite
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[SPEAKER_01]: him and two or three other quarterbacks that have ever done anything close to what he's done through their first two years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So how do you explain it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's beyond me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What pisses me off though, Chad, is we should be talking about the Broncos either being in the Super Bowl right now, or winning in the Super Bowl, and instead we're talking about quarterback rankings and Bonax being disrespected again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the Sean Peyton Hayden, the Broncos, natural East Coast bias against them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That plays into it, but we all read the takeaways on Bonax.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We read the scouting reports even before the Broncos drafted him, Chad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There were harsh, harsh things set about him, and the same people just
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just like Sean Peyton, they have an ego and they don't want to admit they were wrong and they will take it to their grave, their digital grave with a ranking like this, 18th is freaking ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, Caleb Williams at eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb Williams at eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did have statistically Zach a better season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had more yardage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who took her to further?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And not only that, like who on the who on the NFC North?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it the bears?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who has a better sporting cast, Chad?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OK, then we get, look, Jared Goff, nine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These are the tier two guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Burotan, Lamar, 11 Daniel Jones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for crying out loud.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 12.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did have a great season before he got hurt more power to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My homes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this list is twisted when even my homes is down at 13.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we get to the tier three slubs, according to NFL.com and Nick shook, Jordan love at the
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[SPEAKER_01]: higher ranking than Bonax at 15 Aaron Rogers, even higher than Bonax at 16 Baker Frick and Mayfield, who started off the season with a bang and then fizzled my dog, fizzled badly and Bonax at 18 and even Jalen Hurts can't get any love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: CJ Stroud at 20 and then here's what they actually said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's here's what shook actually wrote about Bonax real quick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bownex didn't find a true sense of consistency until after Thanksgiving, deluding his overall 2025 resume still.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If what we saw from Nick's down the stretch is a preview of his future Broncos fans have plenty of reason to be excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now let's say that this was, uh, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: He saved his best ball for down the stretch, Zach, for one that mattered most to justify a higher ranking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, next, it's like, oh, you know, cool, look at what he did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I wonder what it means for the future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make any sense to me, dude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: damn you stole my thunder because i was gonna say shad scroll up and see what they say about Caleb i guarantee the argument doesn't hold up and uh... if uh... i sent under my breath but what is it with people named nick who hate on the broncos nick right nick shook they can get it they can get it right no pun intended
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[SPEAKER_02]: What, steadily improved throughout his first season under Ben Johnson and produced some incredible heroics in the postseason, powering an unbelievable, come, do you hear the way the descriptor writing and the superlatives and the way they describe them, but what do they say about Bonix, Brock was fans have a reason to be excited if anything, what he showed in the second half of the season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for telling me I have a reason to be excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a reason to be excited though, in the first half of the season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to be a reason to be excited in 2024.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need you to tell me and I don't need you to get on the Caleb Williams train adjust to find any of these takes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, sickening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Perhaps I'm a sucker for resency and hyperbole.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Perhaps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just say perhaps you're a sucker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, look, you want to talk about incredible heroics.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, Caleb Williams, he's right up there with Boneyx in terms of the fourth quarter comebacks in the heroics and all that, but if you're going to credit one quarterback for such achievements, don't omit it in the arithmetic and analysis on the other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Papa bear, good to see you big dog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for the super chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, good evening, Broncos country, receive my shirt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hope you like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hope you like the
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[SPEAKER_01]: A t-shirt that I'm glad to hear it arrived.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's great to see you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We also have checking in here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have Scott with us tonight, so we're going to do the best we can but Eric jumped in before we even went live air cold with the generous super chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you big dog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and want to invite you to become a member on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need you, Big Dog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, hey guys, it's been a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just wanted to reflect for a moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last time, Denver was in a playoff game that our QB2 had to play major snaps was in 1990 against the bills, a 10 to 7 with Gary Kubiak water ride.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Kubiak had to step in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 1990.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to put into a real tough situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel for him and all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very unique, high pressure, short notice, all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's also with kind of the reason they lost the game, you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there are other factors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's other factors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sean Payton's decision on 4th and 1, for going the points.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two missed field goals by Will Lutz and then the elements.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So everyone can kind of decide what percentage of the pie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of that loss, Zach, is, you know, consumed by Jarrett's did him, but I would say probably thanks to his two turnovers and just zero, nothing in the second half, 50 percent at least.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think the determining factor here is the answer to this question, who is the one that committed the two hand fumble?
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[SPEAKER_02]: wasn't Sean Payton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't anybody else except for Jared Stitham and that two handed fumble and I'd say it only half jokingly because it makes me absolutely maddened to think about, but that turnover led to the Patriots deciding victory in the game, but wasn't for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A turnover that I don't think Bowenix would have committed the Broncos might not have lost that game, and also Chad, like you mentioned,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jared said him had the ball in his hand multiple times in the fourth quarter down a field ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care about the elements.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could have led the Broncos down the field just like Bonyx would have assuredly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we can slice the pie and there's a little slice for everyone but the biggest slice here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's got to go to the quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Eric second super chat says, and thank you again, Big Ducks is my ideal off season would be sign linebacker, Devon Lloyd, Najiharis on a one year prove it deal the running back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Trade second round picks for Jamison Williams and draft Kenyan Sadik that Oregon tied in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will tell you that I love Devon Lloyd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to see Devon Lloyd in Denver playing alongside Dragerine while I like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would get me excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now as you hear us, I'm out on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zach, I'm out for trading to trading second round picks for Jamison, but I really do like Kenyan Sadik.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's got Zach some interesting upside and he could be there as an option for Denver at 30 overall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eric, thank you for the super chats plural.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We really appreciate the support, especially now in the off season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to be honest though, the main part, I like here that I agree with is drafting sedic but it's so tough and we say this, I say this at least every pod and
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll say this for a little while longer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so tough to project how the Broncos are going to go or where the Broncos are going to go in the draft before even for agency gets here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they sign on tight end or they stick with Evan Ingram, they might not draft city.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I do like the idea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You cannot have too many weapons for Bonyx, obviously the Oregon connection.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's a genuine playmaker with the ball in his hands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can help the offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not just a hypothetical like Caleb Loner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Devin Lloyd, I wouldn't mind, but he's going to require a big contract chat, and I would wrap her that money first and foremost, go to a receiver, a running back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned Nasi Harris.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never been a fan of him at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's coming off an injury.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, you want to pay briefs all fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to pay Tyler else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to pay Kenneth Walker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's where the money should go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Helping out bonus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well said, and I think, you know, you might not be able to find as great a linebacker as Devon Lloyd, especially what he brings to the table as a coverage linebacker, but you could find a, I mean, even just bringing back Alex Singleton and going back to the draft depends on what Lloyd's looking for out there on the market, but he's going to get a fact contract and
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[SPEAKER_01]: with the other needs, Zach, free agency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about filling them immediate roster needs, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so just today, before we went live in fact around five o'clock local time, I published a, I ranked, an article ranking the Broncos off season roster needs from the least to the most crucial.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I ranked inside linebacker near the top of the most crucial, but it's behind,
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[SPEAKER_01]: wide receiver and I listed running back as number one, not wide receiver, I listed running back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So inside linebacker is something that they got to get a handle on, but it has to take a little bit in terms of priorities that backseat to the scale positions on offense receiver and running back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think you have it rank correctly there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can both agree on, and it's easy to say that inside linebacker is the biggest defensive need for the Broncos going into the off season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I would slot it in there behind running back and receive her, but ahead of tight end, perhaps depending on again, what they do with Evan Ingraham.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have to decide, maybe chat if all else feels like in fallback on strenot, who won't come back unless he wants a starting job, but if they don't fill that
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just have a hard time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If they're deciding on the two free agent linebackers, their own two free agents, I just don't see them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even that is advancing age.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Alex Singleton's going to be 33 this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because of the team captain thing, and because of the, what he overcame with the cancer and just the culture and the locker room thing, I think if push comes to shove, they're going to prioritize bringing Singleton back as opposed to sternat, because sternat wants that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: assurance he's the starter and he's not going to get that in Denver if singleton comes back as well now if they're out of point Zack where they're like you know what singleton you served as well thank you for your contributions but father time is undefeated will catch on the flip flop
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the cancer might change it, obviously, and it's a huge battle and hurdle that he overcame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you mentioned him being a team leader or a locker room guy as a reason why he might not a room might he might be back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I watched this team trade bond miller.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you're talking about a future first ballot Hall of Famer, Baracko's legend, Super Bowl MVP, if they can do that, I think they can let Alex Singleton walk or at least shop around the NFL, but at least we can agree on this in a fallback scenario.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they don't get Devon Lloyd or another lineback or on the open market, maybe they look to trade for one, they can resine Singleton or resine or not and have a plug-and-play starter next to Drake Greenlaw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well said, Sam, bam, good to see you big dog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate you and thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your t shirt should be there any day now, brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let us know when that arrives.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, even in guys 26 days until March 11th when the new league year starts as well as free agency, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And 70 days until the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope Bow's ankle continues to heal, go Broncos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, he'll be back by May should be good to go, but yeah, so the newly gear opens March 11th, but the legal tampering windows that we get a two day run up before the official kickoff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So really things are going to start popping as far as the signings and whatnot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: March 9th, teams can in five days on the 17th begin applying franchise tags and whatnot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So some of these players out there's that we might have an interest in like the George Pickins and the Breeze Halls and even the Kenneth Walkers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's when some of those Dominoes might start falling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It used to be where a majority of the moves happened on day one of free agency back in the day and then it used to be where the majority happened over the legal tampering period now that stuff gets leaked and reported and wrapped up chat coming out of the combine even before the legal tampering period opens so that's the good thing right now we're in a law on the calendar but it's going to start ramping up with the combine and all the news and rumors trickling out
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be fun Sam, and yeah, no news is good news on Bonix, and as long as that continues to hold, he gave a much more optimistic timeline when the Broncos roll out their offseason program, number 10 will be out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can't wait for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, if you've seen that, knew that clip from NFL films, he was hot mic in against the bills at the end there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's unclear exactly who he's talking to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what does he say?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What does he say, Zach?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He goes, you probably won't have me next week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My ankles blowing up or blowing out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of indecernable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you kind of see Davis Web, like, turn to something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What did I just hear, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Crap in a brick, no doubt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Park break the Shannon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love you so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You won't apply them out, rush more superstar in the house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Help us keep the lights on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We love you, we appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She says, good evening, Chad Zach and Scott and Broncos Country.
18:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I never take QB ranking seriously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're always biased.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This one was absurd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think the chances are that the Broncos can get Casey conception in round one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now,
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's some big steps, some big stops, I should say, on the pre-draft trail coming up, like the combine, what he does there, his pro days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, Zack, he is Casey is kind of projected back half of the first round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, last four, five picks of the first round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In most of the mocks that I've done,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've tweaked the different settings to account for randomness and this and that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's usually there as I could pick 30.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think the odds are good and I love this dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I would not hate it at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If conception was the pick at number 30.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Shannon, thank you so much for your support.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're quickly becoming a Mount Rushmore legend around here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We seriously deeply appreciated, especially this time of year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like echo, which had saying, there's a good chance to be on the board, but I also, and I hate to sound like a broken record.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so tough to project.
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[SPEAKER_02]: where the Brock was ready to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I will say this if they don't take a huge swing shed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know we I know we have a big one from Brock waiting for us.
19:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I had the same reaction internally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me just wrap this up and we'll get to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they don't take a big swing on like a JJ or Jalen water, if they settle for a mid tier signing in for agency Shannon, I can definitely see them doubling down and going with conception on and around one because boneics cannot have enough weapons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for your support.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And last thing, I could come up with several different alternatives like that might be a more ideal for the Broncos in round one, almost all of them would involve having to trade up though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he's about as ideal as it would get for the Broncos staying at 30.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll monitor that situation Shannon as the spring kind of marches on, but we love you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: rope on here and down from the Mount Rushmore and he's understand.
20:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow dude Mike, I hope you know how much that means to us bro, seriously.
20:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean that is so generous and you've long time ago became a dear member of this community and a supporter and you know it really feels like Zach with such great support that we get from our
20:56
[SPEAKER_01]: uh, pop a bear, lady D, Michaela, that we're all rowing in the same boat, rowing together.
21:04
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it feels like a, and I just want you to know, Ron, we love you.
21:08
[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate that support.
21:10
[SPEAKER_01]: We know that you worked hard to make 400 bucks wherever that 400 bucks came from.
21:15
[SPEAKER_01]: We know it was hard work and time on your part, and we do not take that for granted.
21:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, listen, I try not to lift the intrusive thoughts when we get this sort of generosity.
21:34
[SPEAKER_02]: We say, I can't tell you how many times, literally, in numerical amount of times, we've said, thank you so much.
21:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much.
21:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much.
21:42
[SPEAKER_02]: But when I just said there was unbelievable, and I just shook my head.
21:45
[SPEAKER_02]: sometimes it feels like it's not warranted because that's the level of generosity you display toward us.
21:50
[SPEAKER_02]: It blows me away and I'm sure I can speak for Chad when I say that as well.
21:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Rock, you've been around like Chad said for a while now, day in and day out, every single podcast on here on Twitter, you pimp the brand out.
22:02
[SPEAKER_02]: We love you for it.
22:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so, so much, man.
22:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Genuinely, thank you.
22:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of these days big dog, you got to make it to a meet and greet.
22:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And if we can help make that happen, you just say the word, you just say the word because it would be great to shake your hand and hang out for a couple of hours before a Bronco game.
22:19
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what these meeting greets are all about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hanging out getting to know each other better, celebrating the team, celebrating our community, and it would be great to have you at one of these.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Coming up from Tucson to the Mile High City.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can get it done one of these days.
22:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I know it.
22:33
[SPEAKER_01]: But his message here is that is good evening, Chad and Zach on the Mile High Hotel podcast, Gobow Broncos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right back at you, Ron.
22:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Love you, bud.
22:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Seriously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll keep an eye out for additional questions, topics that you have in the chat here tonight.
22:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So love you, big dog.
22:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Shiloh, celebrate and membership for two months.
22:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, pal.
22:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's bringing up.
22:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, Shiloh, keep sending in those DMs on Instagram.
22:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this stuff you dig up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So don't stop doing that.
23:03
[SPEAKER_01]: But Zach, he points out here, Caleb Williams had a 58% completion percentage.
23:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's garbage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Indeed, so as a rookie real quick, this was 2024, of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He completed 62 and a half percent of his passes, which is pretty standard, pretty passable.
23:21
[SPEAKER_01]: This past season, Zach, he is attempts only went up by four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he went from 562 attempts to 568, but his completion percentage dropped to 58.1.
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: For context, for context, let's just take a look and then I'm gonna serve this over to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At Bonyx, all right?
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I memorized his stats.
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't always memorize completion percentage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, 2024, Zach, 66.3% of his passes,
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[SPEAKER_01]: 63.4% so your thoughts for shadow.
23:57
[SPEAKER_02]: There's an expression, some of you guys may know what I know Chad does that says, uh, facts don't care about your feelings, but for some of these people, it's reverse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're, they're feelings don't care about the facts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And just because his name is Caleb Williams, he gets ranked higher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look what the author, Nick shook, whatever his, his freaking name is.
24:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Look what he said in the blurb chat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He goes, maybe I'm a sucker for hyperbole.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and recently, and recently bias, he literally admits it out loud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not even hiding it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These people rarely do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They go on a motion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't go on logic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they looked at it logically, if they broke down the tape, they would have ranked Bonix a lot higher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, Shilo, you're saying that's garbage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The only reason Caleb is ranked higher is because his name is Caleb Williams and Bonix's name is Bonix.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the probal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a popularity contest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of these days is that there's it's all going to be feel like water under the bridge because it's going to be bow up there with the t-shirt on and the super bullshit amp you have hoist in the body that is going to happen and then all these people they're going to eat their hearts out it's going to absolutely consume them from the inside out and it's going to be cool to be there for that when it happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see, well, first of all, before we get to some members comments and questions, here's Zach real quick, you had an interesting article, Tis the season for chronicling what some of the bigger national publications are projecting and saying about the Broncos free agent moves or draft.
25:36
[SPEAKER_01]: PFF had an interesting one today, what the pound in the table for was at Kenneth Walker the
25:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, speaking of Bow Knicks' fan club, Chad PFF did say that Kenneth Walker would be the missing piece quote on quote for the Broncos.
25:51
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a list of like five different teams and they linked one player to those teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The missing piece to take that team to the next level.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and for the Broncos, it was Kenneth Walker Super Bowl 60 MVP.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had a season high 135 rushing yards in that game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been a productive back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His entire career, he was drafted in 2022.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even as the author notes though in the piece chat, there's a high probability or possibility anyway that Seattle makes a push to resign Kenneth Walker, but if he does make it to the open market
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Broncos should go after and pursue him heavily.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He would be a massive upgrade both from a floor standpoint and from a ceiling ceiling standpoint in the Broncos running back room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree wholeheartedly, um, I think you would be a great fit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, I wrote about this was a yesterday morning, six reasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Broncos should go after Kenneth Walker, the third, if, of course, Seattle, let's him go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is, but Patrick, good to see you too, pal on Facebook.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love him, but,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, him and Hall, if they hit free agency man, they're going to be a pretty penny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm thinking to myself, what about Algear, Tyler Algear to me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He might not be from the name recognition level of either of those guys right now, but as second fiddle behind B. John Robinson and Atlanta man, he has done some great things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when he was given the opportunities act to be a thousand yard guy, he was a thousand yard guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Problem was that was his rookie year and then the situation kind of changed, but he's young.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unlike Walker Walker's split for most of his career, Breeze Hall, Alger has very little tread taken off his tires, by the way, in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's a freshie, and that's why I still think I kind of view him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Algier the same way Michael Turner back in the day playing behind LaDani and Thomas and in San Diego, occasionally getting a carry, you know, always made the most of it finally hits free agency has a chance to go out and be the guy, be the Jordan instead of the Pippin Zeck and he just becomes a 1500 yard and 15 touchdown guy setting for get for like the next four or five years, whatever it was, I kind of see something in that same direction with with Algier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I apologize for looking off screen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to confirm what I'm about to say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't remember.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tyler Ellishier has never fumbled in his career.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's as reliable as they come.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Chad mentioned the lack of wear and tear on his tires.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's also like Phillip Lindsey in that sense, where if you give him the ball, you know he's not going to melve and Gordon it and cough it up and give it away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's explosive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has a long-term upside and for what the Broncos need that power back to move the chains on the early downs before bringing on RJ Harvey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they cannot get Walker, it cannot get brief all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am 1,000 percent okay going after Aljir.
28:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Tucson Phil in the house.
28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: We got two songs showing up big time in the chat tonight with the rock and Phil saying good evening, Chad Zach and Deacon Scott.
28:58
[SPEAKER_01]: No Scott tonight, but he will be hearing this because he has to do the edits and all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no surprise Phil says we get no respect.
29:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's become a joke.
29:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Nick's is top five in my opinion.
29:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just win and let him meet Crow Buckel.
29:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I made you it for life, Broncos for life.
29:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the T-shirt I wore on Super Bowl Sunday.
29:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I wore my buckham T-shirt proudly to the party that I went to.
29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what's interesting, Zach, is you think about Nick's as a top five quarterback.
29:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, last summer, Sean Peyton made waves by saying, this is a Super Bowl capable team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, remember, this was a Broncos team that had one winning season since 2016, they were just barely coming off at second year quarterback and Sean Payton saying, this team is one of the few that I've had over the years where before the season even started, I can see that this is super bowl capable and Zach, we're not for a freak injury, not freak in the sense of
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[SPEAKER_01]: the injury itself because he suffered ankles before the freak aspect of it was how it happened when it happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was kind of the freak thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're at not for that that prediction of sorts is that would have come true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so his other prediction that made ways last summer about Nick's in the next couple of years becoming a top three or four quarter back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's that's going to come true as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what bothers me more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The fact that we're talking about it still, I mean, or the fact that it's coming from the same cast of characters, that no matter what bone it does, he can win a Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can throw six touchdowns in the Super Bowl, win a Super Bowl MVP, the Broncos can go undefeated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can have the best season of all time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he would still have these detractors and these haters saying this crap about them and I don't get it You thought we would shake that by now making the AFC title game, but even then something had to happen like you talked about Chad The the ammo now because the Broncos lost in that game people forget if it wasn't for bone X the Broncos don't even make that game But yeah, Phil.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's really no surprise It's the Broncos of the Rodney danger field of the NFL They're never getting any respect man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have to just lean into it now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let him eat
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let him hate.
31:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And if there was ever any doubt in anyone's heart within Broncos country, how crucial Bonyx actually was to those 14 wins, AFC crown number one seed and playoff win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you saw in the AFC title game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: his absence reflected exactly how crucial he is to this whole equation, but Phil, thank you, pal.
31:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to grab this from Glenn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to read you off-screen big docs.
31:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a long one.
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Good to see our friends from Down Under from Oz saying good morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Other
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh other than candle it seems like seems all Americans american nicks are ha ha okay other than nick candle seems all all other american nicks are um what would you say is that a uh let me see
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll just say eggplant, okay, if Sternadden singleton are to move on, what is, yes, about pairing green law with two blue chip rookies, the talent pull is stacked, Allen Hill,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bachelor, don't forget about him, uh, tight-end-wise, I'm not a fan of Sadiki says.
32:36
[SPEAKER_01]: We can add two system fitting tight-ends from rounds two through five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would couple them with Joku.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jolie, by the way, it's not Justin Jolie.
32:47
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my bad.
32:48
[SPEAKER_01]: The senior bolrostors that I was given,
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[SPEAKER_01]: with my credential a couple weeks ago, they don't offer pronunciation guys.
32:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I looked at it and I thought it was just in jolly.
32:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just in jolly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jolie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jolie?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you didn't get into that.
33:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what do you think Zach overall has thoughts about going hard on linebacker and tie-in?
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[SPEAKER_02]: If it's a player's name, we can't pronounce you know the brocos are going to draft him chat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the universal law.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have any really individual opinions on inside lineback or listen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can they cover and can they stay healthy?
33:24
[SPEAKER_02]: If the answer is yes to those two questions, I want them on my team, but I don't want them on my team at the expense of or before adding to bone-nixes supporting cast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, it's going to be my
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[SPEAKER_02]: My standard answer going forward, but I want to see what the Broncos do on the, on the open market before I answer these draft questions on a micro level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love, Glenn, love your draft enthusiasm.
33:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Keep it, keep it coming hot, big dog.
33:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Rock, also gifting 20 MHHH, YouTube, you're watching the chat.
33:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, he is living legend in our midst right now.
33:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, big dog.
33:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And we hope all 20 of those awesome folks that just got gifted a membership that we earn that they keep going after their first 30 days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you for that big dog.
34:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Ralph Brace, girl, when it comes to the,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The running back free agent pool, he said Travis at TN Zack is who he would prefer, which I mean, he would definitely be a upgrade over what the Broncos had.
34:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, RJ Harvey could still develop Zack into a very, very productive running back between the 20s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But his down to down consistency was nil like you it was either going to get blown up go for a loss or he's going to take it 50 yards and you just can't operate an offense that way and it put way too much pressure on bow and even that play that boga heard on I mean Sean Peyton probably learned a lesson you don't want to be too tentative you don't want injuries to like rob you of your courage and you're all that but at the same time
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that should have been a hand off to a back, they could pick up the yardage and get you in the position relative to the hash marks where you wanted the angle for the field goal all that stuff, which is what that play was about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Walker or a pre-zone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
35:20
[SPEAKER_02]: You exactly were in my head in that sequence chat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I was thinking as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's an upgrade on what the Broncos had post-Dobbins injury.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would look in that case.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're relatively comparable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would look in that case to bring back JK Dobbins while also double dipping in the draft with another running back.
35:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Because if you're going to the ETN level, that means you struck out on the top three chat, but the running backs that Chad mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At that point, I'm just bringing back Dobbins, who'd be cheaper, he knows the system, and listen, he was a damn good running back when he was healthy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People forget he was the NFL's fifth leading rusher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was going to be easily a thousand-year-guide, proble, tight player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I looked to bring him back if they strike out on the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I still think he should be part of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if they go out and spend and get a brief haul a walker and outgear, I still think they should talk to JK about coming back another one year deal, three, four million bucks, maybe more because of what he showed as a veteran.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, hey, you're gonna be, you're gonna co-lead the rushing attack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be you and outgear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be you and brief or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then RJ Harvey, the pressure comes off him
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he frees him up, Zach, to be that weapon in the passing game and use him in the gadgets, use him in the red zone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think there's a path for the Broncos to go out and get a guy and bring back JK Dobbins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I hope to see.
36:48
[SPEAKER_01]: George, good to see you pal on Facebook.
36:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for the support brothers saying great pod guys.
36:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
36:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I made you for live Broncos for live hit the thumbs up.
36:57
[SPEAKER_01]: really good to see a big dog, a fill also wants to know what do you guys think about getting Walker from Green Bay.
37:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe he is a free agent, Zach.
37:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I think if you're talking about Quay Walker, Phil, he's a little lost.
37:12
[SPEAKER_02]: They already have maybe potentially one of those guys in Singleton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They might bring back Drake Green Laws getting to that point as well with his injury risks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If there's one free agent linebacker that I'm crazy about, it's Devon Lloyd.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise, they should look to fill that position in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a free agent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, unless they, I don't think they did his fifth year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they didn't pick up his fifth year option.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's a free agent.
37:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Last season, 128 tackles, Zach, two and a half sacks, just talking about Quay Walker real quick, five passes that were broken up, I know turnovers are takeaways over the preceding two seasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's an interesting guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't completely not to disagree with Zack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a guy I would look at after I exhausted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, first of all, I got to figure out of my bringing back either single Tener Sternad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But once I answer that, are we going to try and splurge on a Devon Lloyd?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Quay Walker could be interesting, but I don't necessarily think Zack, they need to go spend hard on linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bring back one of the guys that already knows the system and allocate that money to build the
38:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Real quick though, Vince been waiting like a patient boy.
38:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Big dog for the super chat.
38:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for being a member Anything you got to say we'll keep an eye out for it in the chat brother.
38:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you very very much and I'm trying to make sure we don't miss too much on the star side of things here Let me see real quick Joe Allen dent on Facebook Denver needs a run game
38:52
[SPEAKER_01]: period.
38:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Broncos, the Broncos defense will be as good as it was this year.
38:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think the Broncos need to get more explosive on the offensive side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zach, what was that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw it on Twitter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure you've seen it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Broncos had a very compared to the other playoff teams, very poor ranking on plays that went above 20 yards last season offensively, especially relative again to the number of teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Always find it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see if I can find it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we got Scott in the house.
39:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Scott's in the house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good to see you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good to have you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to see what's up with the members real quick here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Before we get going, I'm going to start at the top here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Say hello and give the members some love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stream Guy Raj.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good evening, all.
39:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't want to trade for George Pickens if the Cowboys tag him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 31 million a year plus we'd have to give up draft picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just too much for one player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would get Hall and Lloyd in free agencies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: go for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't be opposed to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But in this hypothetical, does the money that Lloyd's getting could it go to another receiver or a receiver instead?
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[SPEAKER_02]: If it could or, you know, a trade for one and to take on the contract, if it could, that's where my priority lies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like Chad broke it down perfectly earlier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The priority list is receiver running back and then
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[SPEAKER_01]: As time marches on for me, I'm like, I'll cheer Walker Hall in terms of running back, how I covet and rank them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But dude, I'm telling you, Devon Lloyd, he is a horse to be reckoned with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he's available, the Broncos got at least sniff around that and see what it would take.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause him next to Drake Green Lombin, that's assuming Drake could stay healthy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy, oh boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, we got M Black saying, I don't even really want George pick in any way, any receiver that comes from the Steelers is insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got a fair point there, brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Keith, saying Broncos country, let's freaking go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bose coming out this season in what I'm going to call super Saiyan, super super Saiyan mode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Super Saiyan, what does that mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It says Dragon Balls Ethan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you nerd for knowing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you nerd, but thank goodness for you because I wouldn't know what our boy Keith was talking about here, but he follows that up with our receiver room rank 31st in the NFL, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need a playmaker in our receiver room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I say tight, and he says, why receiver we need to get after that hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a tight end for me on the skill position side important though it is priority zack though it is top 4 priority in my opinion it takes a back seat to running back then wide receiver just because I think if you're looking at it from a
41:54
[SPEAKER_01]: what can we do to to best insulate and boost bow in year three and the offense overall?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it really is that consistency of the ground game because if you could imagine that as things were rolling during the season up until week 10, the Broncos when when JK Dobbins went down, they just won their seventh straight game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were rolling, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the offense was still kind of going up and down a little bit of inconsistency started finding it stride down the stretch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine if they would have had JK along with that stride like they would have been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely tough to handle bone nicks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It would have taken a lot of the pressure off him and that's part of what I think help bone nicks grow ironically Zach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's part of what kind of how things work serendipity in the NFL is that injury to JK.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it did put more pressure on bone nicks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it forced him to grow a little bit, maybe a little bit faster, and I think that did redown to the Broncos benefit overall, but it may have played a role in how his season ended just a couple games too early.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... the ironic thing is that's due to wrote up bonix at eighteen chat he goes after things giving bonix got better after Thanksgiving would be after they lost jk dobbins and when he didn't have a running game because rj harvey wasn't nearly comparable he gave us all and he was admirable but he was not jk dobbins so funny that he doesn't pay attention to the actual tape
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[SPEAKER_02]: He jumps on the hype train.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He gets with what's fashionable, the current fat, and that current fat about bone nicks is to dump on him.
43:27
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what we saw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to react when we read these articles, but every time they get under my skin, it's ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, but at the same time, it's like, hey, on one hand, I almost am like, grateful for this stupid takes because it helps us pass the time in the off season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If nothing else, all right.
43:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So there is some utility there at the very least, uh, ridiculous, though, the take may be Jordan Lewis, dear members, saying, Beau will continue to get this by the national media, but dude is a winner has more wins than any QB in his first two seasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, tied Russell Wilson, those two guys have the most wins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 24 wins is the most by any quarterback through their first two seasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's right there, dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm stoked for what the future holds.
44:13
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what bothers me?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's why I was saying is that if it wasn't for a freaking leverage penalty that's called one-severy hundred games or whatever, Bonix would have set that record.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would have been nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now that it means much, it's very superficial, but just the fact that Russell Wilson was his predecessor and it would have been nice for Bo to have that record.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But kind of frustrating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that it would sue Gibson good to see a Todd Austin door for good to see a saying chances are that let's see what a chase say what's chase talking about highly doubt George Pickins is leaving Dallas and so Todd saying chances are you're right Dallas probably get a franchise pickins if they can't sign it him to a long-term deal well we'll find out relatively soon that that window to start tagging guys as I mentioned Zach is if you were 17th till March 3rd
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[SPEAKER_02]: and let me tell you something if they do sign pickings to a long-term deal if they do tag him at the very least on picking up the phone if I'm George paid and I'm calling and asking is there a price for a city lamb can we talk about them real quick can't hurt it's all I'm saying can't hurt turn over every rock until you find that worm if you're George paid.
45:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dude.
45:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I love CD lamp.
45:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I liked him.
45:21
[SPEAKER_01]: He was my favorite receiver in his class, although, you know, in hindsight, you maybe do that a little bit differently, but I love him.
45:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be interested in that.
45:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He'd definitely be an upgrade over what the Broncos have now, which is a low level number one, high level number two, and then a gaggle of number three,
45:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you need a clear cut alpha in the room?
45:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And I love Cortless Sutton, but he's not that clear cut number one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: C.D.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lam or JJ or someone like that.
45:52
[SPEAKER_01]: J.L.Wattle, they would be a Roy Osborne in the house saying, I sure hope we don't go after Piggins.
46:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Ben and Trouble with two teams.
46:02
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't need his cancer in the locker room.
46:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's a lot to be said, Zach, for whether or not
46:13
[SPEAKER_01]: bits, the culture, and that's something that the Broncos would have to kind of figure out beforehand, and Sean Payton does have a history of kind of figuring out how to fit some guys like that into his culture, but if there are other paths, take them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To some feel, I see the Broncos sign future contracts on six players, two of which are running back, Cody Schrader, and defensive tackle, Jordan Miller.
46:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Guess I missed something.
46:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I
46:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Jordan Miller is a guy who is kind of more of a, I don't know how do you put it, Zack.
46:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Bottom of the roster, can't body kind of defensive tackle, but Cody Schraider is a guy that the Broncos brought in, what was that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Madeleine December?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they signed him off the,
47:04
[SPEAKER_01]: was at the Rams practice squad on to their 53, I want to say, and then he stayed on the 50, wherever he came from off the top of my head, I think it was the Rams, but wherever he came from, he stayed on the active roster through that game weekend, and then they waved him, signing to the practice squad where he basically remained.
47:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Phil.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we covered this when the Broncos released their future signings after the AFC title game, but these are all players that ended the year on the Broncos practice squad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And as Chad laid out, they're pretty much just camp bodies offseason bodies.
47:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't hold out too much hope for both of them.
47:40
[SPEAKER_01]: appreciate your brother.
47:41
[SPEAKER_01]: We also got Greg, a dear member, jumping in and saying good evening to everybody.
47:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Our friend Keith Brugman on Facebook saying, rely on Drake Green Law's help.
47:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Bring back sing an aging singleton.
47:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Make sure to add a starter for the first time.
47:56
[SPEAKER_01]: We need a name at the position.
47:59
[SPEAKER_01]: The biggest name out there, Keith, is of course, Devon Lloyd in terms of what's available right now.
48:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But
48:06
[SPEAKER_01]: How much you willing to pay for a guy like that?
48:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look at what it did for the, the jags.
48:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that defense this year was really, really good.
48:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I think about how hard they made it on bow and everybody in that week.
48:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, was it week 16 matchup?
48:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And I go, I'd love to see him in Orange and Blue.
48:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's a Rocky Mountain guy, too.
48:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Hailing from Utah.
48:27
[SPEAKER_02]: which is to occur to me too is that for years, vats Joseph had this reputation of not being able to maximize inside linebacker play famously in Arizona.
48:37
[SPEAKER_02]: They had to high round inside linebackers, neither of which bloomed under vats Joseph.
48:43
[SPEAKER_02]: What happens in 2025?
48:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot blaming Vijay for Drake Greenlaw getting hurt or suspended, but I didn't see that leap like I was expecting.
48:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see that leap Mr. Nod as the starter.
48:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see it from Singleton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So my point in saying this, Keith, do you want to go all in on Devon Lloyd and I see some of the Broncos fans want him as well?
49:01
[SPEAKER_02]: You pay him a record setting contract or close to a market resetting level money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Would you want to go all in that position knowing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're giving him the Vijay knowing that money,
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[SPEAKER_02]: could be applied to an offensive need like running backer or receiver.
49:17
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, Keith, the official nickname for the rock is the rock, but he's also known as the mayor of the MHH community.
49:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go, Big Dog.
49:26
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the rock.
49:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Gene Williams, what's up, man?
49:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Ben missing the show a whole bunch recently, so I apologize.
49:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You were immediately forgiven.
49:35
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's great to see you.
49:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I want us to go get Alec Pierce, the Colt's wide receiver with the ridiculous yards per catch average.
49:44
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a low key stud.
49:45
[SPEAKER_01]: He is, Zach, but if you're looking for that guy that changes the equation, you know, he could make an impact deep down the field guy, but he's not that explosive gain changer that you feel like this team could really use to pair with courtroom.
50:03
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to sign Pearson for agency, then you better use your first round pick on a receiver because that can't be the big splash move you make in the offseason at receiver is just Alec Pierce.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not a tier one level guy like anyone I mentioned, water, or
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[SPEAKER_02]: or AJ Brown, George Pickens, any of these players that are either up for trade, perhaps or up for signing on the open market.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if that's their plan to double dip with Alec Pierce, who's a speedster, he's more of a number two ideally, like a Portland Sutton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Once again, Gene, you need that no doubt, elite alpha true number one stunt.
50:41
[SPEAKER_01]: No doubt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: no doubt about it.
50:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Gene, it's good to see you big dog.
50:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you're doing well.
50:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Hope miss and the pot means you're you're good busy at work and stuff's going well for your brother.
50:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you for checking in.
50:53
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51:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like like father-like son, Ralph Pierce is intriguing, but are we allowed to have a white corner and receiver, you goofball?
52:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Pierce is interesting, he's interesting, but he's got to fit with the context and got to understand what he's actually capable of bringing to the table.
52:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Wrong, brother, thank you so much again, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Throwing down a top rope super chat, gifting memberships to 20 folks in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We love you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hats off to you, big dog for real.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're getting the dome effect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love you, big dog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, my high salute, special shout out to all the great super chat super stars and supporters, dear members, rock right there with top rope, Shannon.
52:44
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: pop a bear, Eric Holt, multiple supers, Sam Bamm, Shiloh Chippin' in, or checking in, I should say, Tucson Phil, Vin, appreciate you being a member, big dog.
53:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, Is that a drum kit?
53:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope, hope, I think so, or is it turn tables?
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[SPEAKER_01]: think it's a drum kit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ralph, Jean, love you guys.
53:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate your George Fox and all the members tonight in the house.
53:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for rocking it with MHH and Zach, it's already another week, basically, of this offseason is in the book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So see, it's going to start moving faster and faster, but Zach and I will see you on Sundays.
53:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Our next time together on the on the mic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have a great rest of your night y'all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have a great start to your weekend.
53:38
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Take care and as always, go Broncos.