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WHO blunders on Hantavirus global stage, Q&A 196 · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  If we've learned anything from these past couple of years, my fellow Americans is that personal medical freedom and liberty are in crisis.
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  America Long Pulse brings together the top experts in health care related fields to keep you a beaten ahead.
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  Okay.
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  This is sort of like maybe it's not deja vu.
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  I don't know, really, friends.
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  But uh you're hearing a lot about this Hunter virus.
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  And uh it's been around a long time, but there's some interesting uh phenomenons happening now and some updates to give you on this that are that are quite uh interesting.
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  You know, one of the things about this is you can surely tell that um the public health has uh been tainted badly from the COVID experience, because I have to tell you there are more conspiracy theories running around on this one, and I've had a bunch of them come into the network here, and I I just roll my eyes when I hear them.
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  It's like you gotta be kidding me, right?
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  Oh man, we're gonna talk about that today.
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  And then you see this other news about the uh FDA commission, um Dr.
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  Marty McCarry is out, and uh that's been coming on for some time, and talk about that as well today here.
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  Um got a lot of questions, QA 196.
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  Uh, welcome into America Out Loud Pulse.
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  It is Malcolm out loud here, along with my co-host.
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  Dr.
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  Peter McCullough following this hantavirus outbreak very closely.
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  Yeah, indeed, indeed, indeed.
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  Now, one of the things I seen on this, well, first of all, the um the the information flow is is very weird.
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  Uh people are uh um a lot of people I find are fabricating stories too on this.
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  I don't know if you've seen it, but I certainly have here.
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  And uh you know, but uh the thing about this is if you get this sort of thing, uh it can be quite fatal.
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  I mean, the the sets that I'm seeing, you correct me on this, uh, Dr.
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  McCullough, but uh this could be as high as in in this country, between 38 and 50 percent, they say uh could are can be fatal on this thing.
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  So it's nothing to fool around with if you if you get it.
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  Uh and uh but it doesn't spread easy, does it?
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  Yeah, that's correct.
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  Typically the viruses that are more fatal, like Ebola or in this case hantavirus or even Marburg virus, the ones that are more fatal don't spread as easily.
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  Thank God the reason why there's high fatality rates here is that many patients die at home because it it sets so quickly.
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  Remember Jean Heckman's wife, she died in the New Mexico home in Santa Fe.
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  You never even called 911.
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  He has a heart attack, and uh, you know, they go and investigate.
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  That's right.
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  That was that.
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  No one remembered, and you know, they found the rodents uh in all the outhouses, the droppings, the virus.
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  They had it down, so she died of hantavirus.
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  But you know, the the quoted mortality rate's 40 percent.
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  I think when patients get to the hospital, things are better.
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  In the current outbreak, uh the hospital has you know, there have been three deaths, uh, two right on the ship, and then one shortly after the ship never really even got to care.
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  Um there have been no hospital deaths right now.
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  A man is out of the ICU in Johannesburg, and uh a Swiss man was very m mildly sick.
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  Uh and then the the concerning thing is a French woman who got off in the Canary Islands, and uh she's actually fighting for a life right now in a Paris ICU.
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  Wow.
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  Wow.
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  Now uh I've seen this is correct.
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  This report from NBC News says that the huntivirus cases rise to eleven as cruise ship passengers quarantine.
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  Is it eleven is the total on that?
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  It may be eleven tests positive, but remember they're using a blood PCR test at a very high cycle threshold because the virus is low low density.
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  And so they're gonna come up with a lot of false positives.
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  So the two, as we're speaking now that got shipped uh to Emory Hospital in Atlanta, they they're fine so far.
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  Now, many times the blood test will be positive and they look fine the next day they get sick.
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  Right.
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  The incubation period on this is incredible.
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  I mean, is this normal?
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  I mean, how did this how does this rate to other viruses?
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  This can be like uh six weeks later, and you might have some, huh?
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  Yeah, I think that's also um a misunderstanding.
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  Okay.
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  Um the reason why the incubation period has been stated to be so long is people never know when they encountered the rats typically or the mice in their house or camping or what have you.
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  Do you see what I mean?
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  I do.
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  So it's it's like, well, you know, you know, it's been eight weeks.
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  Well, you know, did they just did they go in a room where a mouse was in the wall just a week ago?
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  So if if you look carefully at the data, I think it's like any other respiratory illness, and certainly on the ship that we're following here, the um MV Hondias, this is following basically about a seven to fourteen-day incubation period.
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  Okay, so not as bad.
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  Now you cleared that up a whole lot better than on what I'm hearing on a lot of the news uh areas.
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  They are still sticking with that story of like uh six weeks or more before.
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  So that that seemed like let's just follow the fact pattern.
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  So the ship uh departs uh April 1st.
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  Now, interestingly, we've investigated.
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  Do you know on the prior voyage that the ship went on, they actually have a rodent um kind of uh checklist to make sure there's no rodents on board.
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  We couldn't find that checklist completed for this ship for the ship uh departure, very interestingly.
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  So maybe a safety check wasn't done then.
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  It takes up takes off April 1st.
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  The first man is dead on April 11th.
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  Okay, so he was sick for a few days, so he didn't track this in on his shoes, what have you.
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  This was aboard the virus doesn't live outside the mouse of the rat very long at all.
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  So they have to constantly have the droppings, the droppings have to kind of get in the air in the urine, and you have to breathe it in.
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  The virus just doesn't hang around on a countertop or what have you.
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  So anyhow, the first man dies.
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  Now he's he stays on board.
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  The dead bodies on board for 10 days to the 24th.
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  So the dead body uh the one time they've recovered the virus in the human body is in oral secretions.
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  And if you've ever seen a dead body, Malcolm, the uh the mouth kind of fills up with fluid.
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  In fact, it's so bad sometimes you have to turn the head and kind of drain it out.
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  So there the his mouth, as they put him somewhere on the ship.
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  Um, he's loaded with the virus for sure.
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  Loaded.
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  And we believe the rats are still there and the mice, and they're still getting people sick.
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  So his wife gets off the ship with a dead body on the 24th, and she dies shortly afterwards.
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  Gets off the ship with a dead body on the 24th, and she dies shortly afterwards.
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  Wow.
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  Wow.
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  She doesn't even get a chance.
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  She doesn't even get a chance.
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  Okay.
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  Okay.
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  So that's death number two.
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  So that's death number two.
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  Now, also uh a British man gets off on the 24th.
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  Now, also a British man gets off on the 24th.
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  This is in St.
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  This is in St.
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  Helena.
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  Helena.
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  He gets sick.
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  He gets sick, he survives the hospital, ICU in Johannesburg, so he's okay.
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  He survives the hospital, ICU in Johannesburg, so he's okay.
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  A Swiss man gets off.
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  A Swiss man gets off.
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  He gets this fully sequenced, and it's the Andes strain.
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  He gets this fully sequenced, and it's the Andes strain.
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  It's not mutated.
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  It's not mutated, it's the same strain that looks like it comes out of nature.
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  It's the same strain that looks like it comes, you know, out of nature.
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  And uh he's fine.
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  And uh he's fine.
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  So the
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  So the 26 people who got off on the 24th, the rest of these people, they were smart ones.
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  They got off the boat.
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  Uh what happens is the boat then takes off from St.
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  Helena.
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  These days archipelagoes in the um uh in the Atlantic, and then it gets to Cape Verde, and uh by that time, another man is sick, a German man is really sick, and they won't let the dock, the boat dock there.
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  Right.
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  And so you know it, he dies.
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  So the German man is dead on the ship.
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  Now, this is where the big mistake is.
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  By May 2nd, the WHO absolutely positively knows this is hantavirus.
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  And hantavirus management 101 is you get people out of the house, out of the barn, out of the ship.
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  You have to.
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  You have to get them out and get everything decontaminated.
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  You cannot leave people in the place where they're getting sick, and you certainly not with a dead body there.
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  But what does the WHO do?
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  They don't evacuate the ship.
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  They actually put some WHO personnel on board, and then they take that ship with a dead body all the way up to the Canary Islands.
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  They get there on May 10th in Tenerife.
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  Then they have people they have people locked in their cabins, Malcolm, getting sicker and sicker, not getting any fresh air on the deck.
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  Uh it was just a total mismanaged disaster.
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  When they pull people off on the 10th, then they put hazmat suit on them, and then they then they uh wash them down.
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  That's the most ridiculous thing in the world.
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  This was mismanaged and that.
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  Totally mismanaged.
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  Yeah.
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  So if you got off the ship, I mean, you'd want to probably take a shower and then get some fresh clothes, but you don't need to be locked into a hazmat suit.
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  And this is this this is this story is unbelievable.
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  So on the 10th, as they're getting off in Tenerife, one of the Spanish men, the workers there who's going to be trying to help in this procedure, he has a fatal heart attack and dies right there.
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  He he doesn't even have the virus.
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  I mean, that shows you the tension that's going on.
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  So you have Tedros Cabrasis from the WHO, he flies down there, and they do everything incorrectly.
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  The French French woman gets off on the 10th, and she has anxiety, and they say, Oh, you just have anxiety ma'am.
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  She goes, No, I'm having trouble breathing.
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  They finally airlift her to Paris.
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  Now she's in the ICU right now on extracorporeal membrane oxygenation and and on the mechanical ventilator.
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  So I tell you, she may not be able to make it.
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  Yeah, she may.
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  I don't think so.
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  I don't think so.
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  I think she's going to be the first in hospital death.
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  But my point is, yeah, she should have been off on May 2nd.
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  She could have had half a chance.
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  This idea that you can treat this, you know, on an airlift uh going in and what have you, there's no chance for any early therapeutics, nothing.
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  Yeah.
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  So she's fighting for a life now.
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  Now, this is what is mind boggling.
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  They, instead of taking the ship uh out of commission, taking the 30 crew who are equally at risk, right?
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  They're the crew.
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  They're equally at risk.
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  Right.
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  Instead of doing the right thing.
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  And let me tell you, decontamination would this is what it would involve.
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  I just looked this up.
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  Decontamination would have taken several days to over a week, particularly with a death on board.
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  They would have to open up all the windows, air it out, then they'd have to go in and do sampling, biohazard bags.
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  They'd have to wear um hassmat suits when they were in there.
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  They'd have to do disinfectant saturation of everywhere on the cruise bro, 10% bleach solution for 15 minutes, detailed cleaning, porous materials, carpet and upholstery, all has to be steam cleaned uh or removed.
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  Um it uh has to be in an isolated rodent fee area for one to six weeks or exposed to ultraviolet light.
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  You need rodent exclusion that takes 10 days decontamination with effective um capture uh boxes, and then a waiting period for at least one week before the ship can go.
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  That's what would have happened.
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  This ship should be in Tenerife Harbor in Tenerife Harbor in uh the Canary Islands.
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  Yeah.
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  What does a WHO do?
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  This is astounding.
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  They say, you know what?
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  We're all good.
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  You can get back on the ship now.
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  So they let uh 30 crew members go on board and a couple medical people.
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  Oh my god.
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  And now they are sailing to Rotterdam, the Neverland Netherlands.
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  Oh my golly.
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  Wow.
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  Can you imagine this?
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  So this is a major blunder.
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  Wow.
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  Now they have uh I mean you just can't make this up.
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  The WHO is completely incompetent.
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  My God.
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  They are presuming that this is entirely human-to-human spread, which it isn't.
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  It's it's it's obvious that this is rodent to human spread.
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  And maybe there is some spread from these dead bodies on board.
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  But you would never let that ship go.
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  Never, never, never, never, never.
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  Well, just like you.
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  You you wouldn't let somebody go back in their house and say, oh, your dad died of Hantavirus.
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  Why don't you just hang out here in the house?
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  Well, you're just no way.
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  Last week, you and I said on the program, we would have swam too.
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  Yeah, but she would have swam to shore.
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  So now there's no focus on the ship right now or the captain.
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  All the focus is on people locked up in biosecurity centers.
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  And all these experts have come on mainstream media and said, well, uh we're looking into this, we're doing risks assessments, they're being very obsequious about treatment.
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  Uh one of the doctors at Emory University said, Well, we're giving uh medications to support their physiology.
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  And someone says, well, uh someone said, What does that mean?
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  They asked uh an expert.
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  And the expert says, well, probably the standard kind of chronic medications they they give at home.
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  No one has mentioned the activity of a drug that's on the market in Japan, Russia, India.
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  It's called Favy Pyravir.
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  Favy Pirovir.
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  Uh, it has really good activity against the virus.
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  And in fact, uh in a paper, a 2013 paper, they were saying, listen, anybody particularly against the strain that these people have.
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  I said, if this ever pops up again, they should probably give a loading dose and give a daily dose of this drug, Tendak and edge off the virus.
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  No one is mentioning in the Omaha Biosecurity Center or in the CDC or at the WHO that they're using Favipier Virgin.
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  Now, I think uh distant second would be hydroxyquoroquine.
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  There's a study support that that has some activity, as well as ivermectin.
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  But no one's mentioning any anti virals now, and they are just creating an unbelievable false narrative of lockdowns, fear.
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  But no one's mentioning any anti-virals now.
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  And they are just creating an unbelievable false narrative of lockdowns, fear.
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  Now the stories are, well, someone came into contact with somebody else.
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  Now the stories are well, someone came into contact with somebody else.
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  Remember, 20 uh 24 people, uh 28 people get off on April 24th.
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  Remember, twenty uh twenty four people, uh twenty-eight people get off on April 24th.
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  28 people are the uh the uh the Dutch woman dies, the British
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  Twenty-eight people are the the uh the uh the Dutch woman dies, the British man survives, the Swiss uh man survives.
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  So that leaves twenty uh five other people.
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  These people have already taken off.
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  Matter of fact, there's one guy, he's a doctor, he's back in Oregon.
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  He's doing podcasts and he's been on TV.
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  Well, if if they've got some people locked into into a biosecurity center in Omaha, how can well how come this guy isn't getting the same treatment?
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  And you know, other countries aren't using biosecurity uh centers.
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  And in fact, if you see pictures, these two people they just brought to Emory University in Atlanta, they have these people wearing bio uh hazmat suits.
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  The patients have it as if they're a radioactive, Malcolm.
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  But guess what?
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  The driver, he didn't have anything on.
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  You can't make it up.
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  So let me ask you a couple of questions here.
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  These people that got off the boat at that point, was it because of the virus, or was there some of the reason, or they just had enough of the cruise?
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  What's the reason they got off?
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  Do we know?
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  I think most uh the on the 11th of April, the um captain gives an announcement.
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  He goes, listen, somebody's died on the ship.
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  Oh but as the wife is getting sick, yeah.
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  Well, as the wife is getting sick, and the British man and the Swiss man are sick.
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  There's enough people sick where I think people looked around and said, listen, this doesn't look right.
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  Right.
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  We're getting off.
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  Yep, yep, yeah.
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  Okay, so that makes sense.
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  Now, at that point, let me understand here.
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  If I have this correctly, the rest of the people that went onward with this thing and things started to unravel and get worse.
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  Am I correct to say that at that point they were not letting them off?
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  Is that correct?
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  They were being out there, right?
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  Yeah, they locked him down from May 2nd to May 10th.
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  In these rooms and everything else, and again, in the rooms.
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  They couldn't even go to the dining room, they couldn't go up on deck.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, you know, in hindsight, they would have been better to take that if they anybody had any knowledge of what this was, it'd have been better to take that first guy and give him given him a burial at sea uh to take the dead body off the damn ship.
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  I don't know.
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  Just saying.
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  Well, I counted up with the Dutch man who dies on the 11th, yeah, and then the German man who dies on the second.
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  Do you know there was 21 days where there were dead bodies on that ship.
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  Incredible with the virus.
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  And do you know no one's covering this?
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  This isn't on CNN, this isn't on any of the mainstream media.
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  The WHO isn't mentioning this.
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  You know, all we did was go through the records of what was going on.
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  This is you know, the only people are going to know this are going to be our listeners listening to America Out Loud.
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  I mean, it's stunning.
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  Right, right.
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  It's it's just wild that that that the the uh negligence of keeping those dead bodies in there.
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  So let me understand now this this uh this hunter virus has been around for forever, right?
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  Long time, right?
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  Right.
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  Okay.
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  And you and you know, you you you're totally reminded, like we totally didn't remember at all that Gene Hackman's wife that way.
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  Remember, I remember when that did happen, you were right to point that out.
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  Nobody knew why she died.
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  And of course he had bad dementia and was uh Alzheimer's really, really sick.
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  But she nobody really knew why she was.
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  It was very quite a mystery, but that was discovered afterward.
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  It was that reason, right?
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  That was the reason.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  And so she must have been overcome pretty quickly, or she didn't realize maybe she thought she had a cold, and then he was so demented he couldn't get his bearings on this.
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  Right, right.
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  But what's propagating all this is a false narrative that this version is a human illness like COVID.
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  Right, right.
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  So the WHO is completely ignoring rodents, so is so is C you know, CNN and all the media.
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  And this comes from a paper by Martinez and colleagues in New England Journal of Medicine where they looked at, you know, two years of data down uh in a town down in Patagonia, um uh apoyan.
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  And they said the the paper just declares that well, you meant this is uh super spreaders.
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  These are people spreading it to one another.
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  And they didn't investigate for rodents and people had parties in different homes and things like this.
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  And this is a small community, so we're a community of 2400 people.
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  So there wasn't a thorough investigation done.
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  And the false conclusion was it's spreading person to person.
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  That was in 2020.
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  Well, the infectious disease society of America in their journal in 2022, in a paper by Toledo, look at this and they look at all the purported cases where they think it's person-to-person spread, and their conclusion is no, it's not spread person to person.
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  It's only spread from rodents to people.
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  But people have uh jumped on this false narrative that it is a human person-to-person illness.
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  It's so much that they now are considering these people super contagious and they have them locked into these biosecurity centers, which is completely not necessary, and they are ignoring the ship, which I am telling you is still loaded with that virus and probably the rodents that brought it on.
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  I mean, this is stunning.
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  Okay.
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  So I want to ask you now, with this this rodent um uh this uh like if you go over time now, when people go into their garage or they go into their their attic or their their their basement or whatever it is where these little creatures uh congregate uh and you see the drop-ins and what have you, that sort of thing.
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  Help me understand, please.
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  I want listeners to understand that I want to understand.
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  Is that enough to get the Hantavirus from those drop-ins and things that you might say?
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  Is that enough to get that virus from?
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  Yeah, it's risky to start sweeping that stuff up.
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  You better really have a good mask on and uh you get some rodent control.
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  So we saw some in our cabinet near our fireplace, and it was probably a little mouse and my wife saw the little place where it was probably squeezing through.
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  There was a like a gas pipe that goes through the cabinet to the fireplace.
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  And uh what we did is we set out all the traps inside outside, and we let that go for a while, and then um then we sealed up that space, then a sufficient amount of time went by, then we got the droppings out.
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  All right.
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  Is there any any uh uh uh time do you have any idea of of of a time factor where those drop-ins and things are lethal to breathe and I get the sense of the breathing in and all of that, and you get the the the the you know, you get the how long does is that stay lethal like that?
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  Any idea?
• 20:50
  Well, once it leaves the mouse of the rat, only two to three days.
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  Okay.
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  Okay, okay.
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  So so they have to be there and be active.
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  Okay.
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  Right, right.
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  Right.
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  So the reason why people got sick, Malcolm, from April 1st all the way till now is they must be on the ship and be active.
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  So the reason why people got sick, Malcolm, from April 1st all the way till now is they must be on the ship and be active.
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  Exactly.
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  It's not it's not people passing it from person to person.
• 21:12
  Exactly.
• 21:12
  Exactly.
• 21:13
  It can't be.
• 21:13
  It can't be.
• 21:14
  Yeah, yeah.
• 21:14
  Yeah, yeah.
• 21:14
  No, no, I get it.
• 21:14
  No, no, I get it.
• 21:15
  I totally get it.
• 21:15
  I totally get it.
• 21:16
  And you know darn well though, ships have them anyways.
• 21:16
  And you know darn well those ships have them anyways.
• 21:18
  I mean, come on.
• 21:18
  I mean, come on.
• 21:19
  Well, throughout human history, right?
• 21:19
  Well, throughout human history, right?
• 21:21
  Shi ships have it.
• 21:21
  Sh ships have it.
• 21:22
  That's the reason why they have a safety check.
• 21:22
  That's the reason why they have a safety check.
• 21:24
  Now, John Leake at McCullough Foundation started, he's an investigator, you know, by training.
• 21:24
  Now, John Leake at McCullough Foundation started, he's an investigator, you know, by training, he started investigating.
• 21:29
  He started investigating the ships, you know, logs and other things you can find.
• 21:34
  And it looks like they may have ski skipped the check on this voyage.
• 21:40
  And so, you know, people have said, well, they visited kind of an island that had a garbage dump on it, and somebody must have stepped in some garbage.
• 21:47
  That can't be the case.
• 21:48
  You don't track it in on your heels.
• 21:50
  The animals have to be alive and around you, kind of laying this stuff down.
• 21:54
  And typically it's they're in the walls, and maybe it gets in the ventilation system, and then you're breathing it in.
• 22:01
  Right.
• 22:01
  So this can happen.
• 22:02
  I mean, and people, these these rodents are everywhere.
• 22:05
  I mean, let's face it.
• 22:06
  I mean, they get into all kinds of places.
• 22:08
  You don't need to be able to do that.
• 22:09
  Gene Heckman and his wife, uh, Betsy Arakawa, they had a estate in Santa Fe.
• 22:14
  They had a huge house.
• 22:15
  Right.
• 22:16
  And they had multiple outbuildings.
• 22:17
  And so when they went to their house, uh, they actually didn't find any rodents or droppings in the house, but they found plenty in outbuildings, and they even found some uh in the carpet in their car.
• 22:29
  So um what must have happened is she's looking after him.
• 22:33
  She goes out to an outbuilding to do something, what have you, she breathes it in, then she comes back in and she gets sick pretty quick and she doesn't realize, and before you know it, she's overtaken with this.
• 22:44
  Why I wonder why these this particular creature, these rodents, these droppings are so lethal to humans like that.
• 22:50
  And we have no idea, do we?
• 22:52
  I mean, well, the and it comes out in urine and the droppings, and it doesn't kill the animals.
• 22:58
  Uh you know, it's it's it's a curious uh uh thing.
• 23:01
  It may just be an oddball thing that this can happen, and these animal droppings tend to be fairly dry when they come out, and they can they can air aerosolize.
• 23:12
  By the way, there's some illnesses that come out in uh bat droppings and in bird droppings that you can get sick from, right?
• 23:20
  So I've heard that.
• 23:21
  Yeah.
• 23:22
  So this is one where you just need to pay attention.
• 23:25
  But I I think uh I see a complete misinterpretation of the data that this is now a human human illness, a complete overreaction and putting all these people in these biosecurity.
• 23:37
  Just as how bad this is, Malcolm.
• 23:38
  In the Netherlands, there was a possible case of someone in the Netherlands.
• 23:44
  And some people in the hospital didn't have their um biosecurity suits on.
• 23:50
  And so one of the administrators said, listen, you broke protocol, you didn't have the full suit on.
• 23:56
  So now you, and they had about six people, you people, you have to go into 45 days of lockdown.
• 24:04
  Wow.
• 24:04
  Can you believe that?
• 24:05
  Yeah, yeah, I can.
• 24:07
  So uh yeah, this is interesting.
• 24:10
  With uh yeah, we just learnt a ton with this broadcast that it was really quite something.
• 24:15
  Now, but but listen, listen.
• 24:17
  This is correct me on this now, please.
• 24:19
  This is never going to turn unless it morphs the the virus, the disease itself the problem.
• 24:25
  This is never going to turn into uh a disease like Sar SARS-CoV-2.
• 24:29
  That's not that kind of thing.
• 24:30
  There's no way No, it can't.
• 24:32
  There's just a limited number of people to follow.
• 24:34
  So some more people are going to get sick, like this French lady.
• 24:37
  Right.
• 24:37
  And I predict some of the crew are going to get sick on the way to the Rotterdam, unless they've really bleached that thing down.
• 24:43
  I think they're going to get sick.
• 24:45
  And um you know, the situation is we're gonna we're hearing the same playbook that there's nothing to treat the illness.
• 24:56
  They're not even mentioning the drugs that are really promising, that there's no treatment, and there's tremendous fear.
• 25:03
  We need to be fearful of everybody who's come in contact with this.
• 25:07
  And then the last thing we're going to be told is there's a vaccine.
• 25:10
  Right.
• 25:10
  Right, right, right, right.
• 25:11
  And by the way, this is why what based on what you just said, this is why the rates and the death rates are 40 to 50 percent in that range.
• 25:19
  This is insane because they're not treating it properly, correct?
• 25:22
  It's insanity.
• 25:23
  I mean, if it was me, I'd at least I'd have a wellness company black emergency kit, and I would at least if I was stuck, if I was locked down and I couldn't swim to shore, I'd at least be doing the nasal sprays, throat sprays and gargles, probably four to six times a day, and I would be taking hydroxychloroquine twice a day.
• 25:41
  I would at least do that.
• 25:42
  I mean, it's just you know, but to do nothing.
• 25:45
  Yeah, yeah.
• 25:46
  These people literally were were had their faces plastered against the glass window when they showed up in the carrying island.
• 25:51
  Can I they look like that?
• 25:53
  And Malcolm, you can't believe this.
• 25:55
  But do you remember the Princess Cruise boat that they wouldn't let people get off with COVID?
• 26:00
  I do.
• 26:01
  I do.
• 26:01
  I do.
• 26:02
  And the same thing.
• 26:03
  They allowed people to get sick on the boat.
• 26:05
  It was horrible.
• 26:06
  It's a bad, it was terrible public health management.
• 26:09
  Do you know what?
• 26:10
  One of the passengers from that Prince's cruise boat was on this MV Hundes book.
• 26:16
  Oh my golly, is that unbelievable?
• 26:18
  What would be the chances?
• 26:19
  But that's a lottery right there.
• 26:20
  It's winning a lottery, a bad lottery.
• 26:23
  Right.
• 26:23
  So anybody anybody listening to this, and I know people are, you know, have cruise plans.
• 26:28
  Anybody listening to this, for sure get go to the wellness company, get an emergency medical kit.
• 26:34
  I think the the black kit is appropriate or the forest green kit.
• 26:38
  If you're really worried, just get the um, you know, get the field kit.
• 26:42
  Get the big kit.
• 26:43
  Most of you take big luggages like my wife, you could uh pack it.
• 26:46
  Take a field kit, you'll have everything.
• 26:49
  And then get immune defense uh and do the nasal spray and throat spray.
• 26:54
  I'd say additionally have a gargle, and any gargle would be fine.
• 26:57
  But make sure you do this on the cruise.
• 27:01
  It's going to help prevent the Norwalk virus.
• 27:03
  Uh it's going to be all the handle.
• 27:05
  Yeah.
• 27:05
  Yeah.
• 27:06
  Yeah.
• 27:06
  The other ones.
• 27:07
  Uh traveler's diarrhea, caplobacter.
• 27:10
  This cruising business.
• 27:11
  I told you and I talked about it last week, uh last week.
• 27:14
  And uh I I am not uh it doesn't excite me anymore.
• 27:17
  But listen, listen.
• 27:18
  With all this said, um you know, we talk about this is no COVID and it's not the kind of thing.
• 27:23
  And and and let's just put those fears to rest because there's a lot of theories running around, not even some already.
• 27:28
  It's insanity.
• 27:29
  I don't believe any of that crap.
• 27:30
  And so I'm just saying, put that aside a moment.
• 27:32
  Okay, now.
• 27:33
  However, we just discovered something else interesting, though, Dr.
• 27:36
  McCullough.
• 27:37
  And that is and and so people paying attention here.
• 27:40
  And that and we talked about Hackman and bring this is a bigger conversation we just had because you know, this hunter virus is is it's not something you want to get.
• 27:50
  I mean, it it can definitely jeopardize a life.
• 27:52
  We're seeing it already.
• 27:53
  Here's the thing.
• 27:54
  But this isn't your everyday life you can get this sort of a thing.
• 27:58
  When you think about these are the drop-ins from these rodents, and let's face it, these rodents get into places the nicest of places, you don't even suspect it.
• 28:00
  Rodents.
• 28:00
  And let's face it, these rodents get into places, the nicest of places, you don't even suspect it.
• 28:05
  And and they're just there.
• 28:05
  And they're just there.
• 28:06
  And I could see going in there into a room or a garage or you know, you do you're not thinking anything like that.
• 28:06
  And I could see going in there into a room or a garage or you know, you're not thinking anything like that.
• 28:12
  You're going to you get something out of your box in the garage, and all of a sudden you see droppings there, and that's comes up and you smell it, and there's a happens to be a rodent in there.
• 28:12
  You're going to you get something out of your box in the garage, and all of a sudden you see droppings there, and that's comes up and you smell it, and there's a happens to be a rodent in there.
• 28:20
  You didn't even know about it.
• 28:20
  You didn't even know about it.
• 28:21
  That could really cause havoc.
• 28:21
  That could really cause havoc.
• 28:23
  So this is something I think educating people on is worth it, isn't it?
• 28:23
  So this is something I think educating people on is worth it, isn't it?
• 28:27
  Isn't it?
• 28:27
  Isn't it?
• 28:28
  It is.
• 28:28
  It is.
• 28:28
  And so people you need to understand.
• 28:28
  And so people you need to understand there's little rodent little houses you can pick up at Home Depot or Lowe's.
• 28:34
  They're reasonable to have around.
• 28:36
  I've have some around my house.
• 28:38
  You always want to keep them out of your house.
• 28:40
  They find ways of getting in.
• 28:42
  Yeah, they do.
• 28:43
  And you know, don't rush to sweep things up.
• 28:46
  Uh make sure you get have those boxes out a decent period of time.
• 28:50
  I think we did for about a month before we started.
• 28:52
  And I learned a few things from this, I have to tell you, but uh, you know, either that or take out a BB gun and shoot them.
• 28:57
  But no, but you they're just too quick, and you you hardly ever see them.
• 29:02
  And by the way, when they go in the rat the bait boxes and they eat the bait, they go off far away and die.
• 29:07
  They virtually never die in your house.
• 29:09
  They know they're sick, so they go far away.
• 29:11
  So that those really work, they're very useful.
• 29:14
  Yeah.
• 29:14
  And uh don't get in there to to sweep things up.
• 29:18
  If you're gonna go up in the attic or out to a barn and sweeten, there's a lot of that kind of dropping type.
• 29:24
  One time you want to wear a pretty solid mask.
• 29:27
  Yeah.
• 29:27
  Well, let's all just know we've learnt a few things here, uh, really in the last uh 25, 30 minutes.
• 29:33
  We we learned two things.
• 29:35
  Useful things, right?
• 29:36
  Useful things that they're not telling you on the media.
• 29:39
  No, no, they're not.
• 29:40
  But really, stuff that could have you don't have to go on a cruise to get this disease, this virus.
• 29:45
  We just discovered that number one.
• 29:47
  No, actually, this is the only this is the first time on a cruise boat.
• 29:50
  Most of the time people get this in their homes.
• 29:52
  Now it's typically in New Mexico, Arizona, kind of the desert southwest.
• 29:57
  But normally people get these in their homes or their their bardominiums and things like that.
• 30:01
  Trevor Burrus, Jr.
• 30:01
  Well, we learned a few things here.
• 30:03
  I'll tell you what.
• 30:03
  And I I really feel uh uh it's important that this information does get out there.
• 30:08
  All right, let's turn the page real quick.
• 30:10
  We want to spend a couple of this was really time well spent just now.
• 30:13
  But I do want to get to the questions, but I I want to cover this other story uh briefly with you.
• 30:17
  You don't have to go too far with it.
• 30:19
  But it is kind of a news that's been percolating for um really some di many days and uh actually a few weeks even.
• 30:26
  And that is uh Dr.
• 30:27
  Marty McGarry uh is out as the FDA commissioner.
• 30:31
  And uh Trump said some very flattery things about him, though, on the way out the door.
• 30:35
  You know, he either likes you or he doesn't.
• 30:37
  He likes McCarry, I can tell you that.
• 30:39
  He says McCarry is a wonderful man.
• 30:41
  And he's gonna be he he's going to be off uh and the assistant, the deputy has taken over temporarily.
• 30:47
  But he's going to go on, McCarry, he Trump says, and he's going to lead a good life.
• 30:51
  He likes this guy.
• 30:53
  He likes McCarey a lot here.
• 30:55
  But what what happened here with this whole FDA blew up?
• 30:57
  McCarey wasn't following along with their uh agenda too well, huh?
• 31:01
  I guess I don't think he was a good fit.
• 31:03
  Remember the US FDA deals with foods and drugs.
• 31:08
  Yeah.
• 31:08
  And you know, he's a surgeon, he's a pancreatic cancer surgeon who's also a podcaster, so he doesn't know anything about food or drugs.
• 31:17
  And it's like you just don't want somebody perfect one to have in that role, right?
• 31:21
  Well, no, he was in my group.
• 31:22
  I'm a frequent contributor on Fox News.
• 31:24
  I'm sure he's going to rejoin the group at Fox News, and he'll do that.
• 31:27
  But it's just, you know, we we shouldn't, we just never do that.
• 31:30
  I mean, the predecessors behind before him was uh Stephen Gottlieb, who is a hematologist, oncologist who knew a ton of medicine.
• 31:38
  And then Robert Califf, one of my colleagues, uh cardiologist, a clinical trial uh uh expert.
• 31:43
  But we should always have a medical doctor leading the FDA.
• 31:46
  We have to.
• 31:47
  We cannot pick surgeons.
• 31:48
  Good point.
• 31:49
  That's a very big point.
• 31:50
  And he he was a surgical oncologist.
• 31:52
  That was not his bag.
• 31:53
  No, he wasn't an oncologist.
• 31:55
  He was actually a surgeon.
• 31:56
  So remember how it works is the medical doctors like me, we tell surgeons what to do.
• 32:02
  Uh-huh.
• 32:03
  So we tell them, listen, do an operation.
• 32:05
  That's all we want them to do.
• 32:07
  We don't ask them for their medical judgment.
• 32:09
  You know, the medical doctors are the ones that know the drugs and how to manage this, what have you.
• 32:13
  So we always say, we always tell the surgeons, spare me your surgery your medical judgment.
• 32:18
  It's kind of an inside joke.
• 32:19
  But no, the surgeons, you know, it's so hard to be a surgeon, they can't possibly know anything about medicine.
• 32:25
  Yeah.
• 32:26
  So they don't know anything about drug safety.
• 32:28
  He doesn't, you know, he's never published any important papers.
• 32:31
  And that's been true of the Trump administration.
• 32:34
  He's large, largely at people who are not accomplished in their field.
• 32:38
  Well, they do.
• 32:38
  They point out it's a good old boys and girls' club, I guess, basically.
• 32:41
  Well, no, what happens is the Trump administration sees people honestly on Fox News.
• 32:45
  Almost all the people they picked were in my in my group, pig hat Pete Headset and all the other uh uh people.
• 32:53
  And you know, the reason being is what they figure is that listen, they want people who are good communicators.
• 32:58
  I know that.
• 32:58
  I understand that.
• 32:59
  Yeah.
• 33:00
  So um, but it it's just they're way uh out of scope.
• 33:04
  No, you're right to point that out.
• 33:06
  By the way, his his his uh bio is actually list him as a surgical oncologist, by the way.
• 33:11
  It's actually says that.
• 33:12
  Yeah, no, it's incorrect.
• 33:13
  He's not an oncologist.
• 33:15
  Wow, bad information there.
• 33:17
  Um but uh no, you're right.
• 33:19
  You can't pick people out for popularity contest, Doctor.
• 33:22
  You you just can't do it.
• 33:23
  And communicator is only one piece of it.
• 33:25
  You have to have some talent in that background in that field.
• 33:29
  And you're right to point that out.
• 33:31
  He didn't have it.
• 33:32
  A lot of those people didn't.
• 33:33
  I it was just people who were popular and like pay like sometimes they put people in there as a payoff or being supportive and stuff.
• 33:41
  Don't you find in those political positions?
• 33:43
  Yeah, I think so.
• 33:44
  And I think there was always a a loyalty to uh test where Trump was figuring, listen, you know, he has to have absolute loyalty.
• 33:50
  No one can possibly disagree with him.
• 33:52
  And you know, Putin runs his his ship the same way.
• 33:56
  Nobody can disagree with Putin.
• 33:58
  I don't like it.
• 33:59
  If I was president, I I wouldn't do that.
• 34:01
  I don't think it's good to have a president who cannot tolerate some discussion and disagreement.
• 34:06
  It's just it I I really I think it's bad.
• 34:09
  It's it's right down the line of of you know dictators, and it's it's wrong.
• 34:14
  You know, we should have healthy disagreement.
• 34:17
  But I'm told, and when I see the cabinet meetings, no one can disagree with him, period.
• 34:22
  Well, there is that side of it, but hold on, there is another side of that too, though, where he does value all kinds of opinion.
• 34:29
  I've seen that in his backdrop where he will take all kinds of opinions and thoughts.
• 34:33
  And uh, but it does sometimes get personal.
• 34:35
  You're right, and you have to be careful with that.
• 34:38
  But you know, that goes with a lot of people, though, in those roles, Peter.
• 34:41
  I mean, they they just don't take that uh criticism well, I think.
• 34:45
  Well, what what's this other handlers are t are are t are told uh don't allow any disagreement because the press will eat you alive.
• 34:54
  And uh that's true.
• 34:56
  Well, okay, but listen to this.
• 34:57
  The press will eat who alive.
• 35:00
  You know, the idea is you're so weak.
• 35:00
  You know, the idea is you're so weak.
• 35:02
  They're telling Trump essentially, you're so weak.
• 35:02
  They're telling Trump essentially, you're so weak.
• 35:04
  If you allow any disagreement, the press will eat you alive.
• 35:04
  If you allow any disagreement, the press will eat you alive.
• 35:07
  Well, they look for conflict.
• 35:07
  Well they look for conflict.
• 35:08
  But no, I know but no, but Trump isn't weak.
• 35:08
  But no, I know, but no, but Trump isn't weak.
• 35:10
  They they what I'm seeing is they people are told that they're so weak the quote, the press will eat you alive.
• 35:11
  What I'm seeing is they people are told that they're so weak, the quote, the press will eat you alive.
• 35:16
  No, the press isn't gonna eat Trump alive.
• 35:16
  No, the press isn't going to eat Trump alive.
• 35:18
  Trump doesn't Trump handles the press very well.
• 35:18
  Trump doesn't do Trump handles the press very well.
• 35:21
  He should be big enough and strong enough to understand that disagreement is good.
• 35:21
  He should be big enough and strong enough to understand that disagreement is good.
• 35:26
  Aaron Powell, I'm so stupid is this that listen to this, it was being
• 35:26
  So stupid is this that listen to this.
• 35:29
  It was being reported in here.
• 35:30
  I mean, this is crazy stuff.
• 35:32
  Like at the same time, the White House reportedly grew increasingly impatient with what was viewed as a slow movement on Trump's key policy initiatives.
• 35:39
  You're going to laugh when you hear this, such as legalizing flavored vapes.
• 35:44
  Oh my golly.
• 35:45
  What?
• 35:46
  Yeah, that's for real.
• 35:47
  That's in that's in the news.
• 35:48
  I mean, this is it's it's it's this is this is uh madness.
• 35:53
  The Trump administration should have nothing to do with drugs.
• 35:56
  Now, the Trump administration can help.
• 35:58
  Yeah.
• 35:59
  So for instance, um, I think Robert F.
• 36:02
  Kennedy went to Trump and said, listen, we need to advance some research in psychedelics to help in these limited applications, right?
• 36:09
  Three psychedelics, so that Trump has an executive order.
• 36:12
  Uh, or they can go and say, listen, we don't like what's going on with this transgender surgery and drugs.
• 36:17
  This is very unsafe.
• 36:19
  Right.
• 36:19
  That uh Trump puts out an executive order.
• 36:21
  I mean, all of that is okay.
• 36:24
  But you know, there's no one in the White House that has any type of health uh experience or uh expertise where they could possibly tell Macri what to do.
• 36:38
  So you know, it's it's a tough read.
• 36:42
  I mean, all Macri Mackay wasn't doing anything.
• 36:44
  He just all he had to do is kind of maintain his position.
• 36:48
  And he's out, you know, he may think he's been in there long enough to um, you know, get some big media contracts.
• 36:55
  I think his skill is when I was uh, you know, watching him when Fox and so I think one or twice I went on with him.
• 37:01
  Um he's very good at the short answers, very concise answers, and he presents himself well.
• 37:09
  Right.
• 37:09
  Um, and uh he doesn't say crazy things.
• 37:13
  Uh the the reason why he honestly the reason why if I was in his shoes, the reason why I would step down is when they went out essentially, someone, some handler told them to go out and on the press and tell people that that Tylenol causes autism.
• 37:29
  Yes, yes.
• 37:30
  No, no, no.
• 37:31
  I would I would have said no, I'm not doing it.
• 37:33
  Yeah, that was stupid.
• 37:34
  That was sure he felt uncomfortable with that.
• 37:36
  Yeah.
• 37:36
  And he may have felt uncomfortable with some other things.
• 37:39
  I don't know about vaping.
• 37:40
  Uh I don't know about that.
• 37:41
  That's in there.
• 37:42
  There's some other things.
• 37:43
  I wouldn't do vaping.
• 37:44
  No.
• 37:45
  So um, you know, he may have uh some lines that he felt he couldn't cross.
• 37:50
  Now, the interesting thing is he has a chance to make history.
• 37:53
  I predict he won't do it.
• 37:55
  But if he comes out of that office and says, Listen, from the get go, I wanted to pull the COVID vaccines off the market, and they wouldn't let me do it.
• 38:04
  And I want to investigate.
• 38:05
  Then this guy will become an American hero.
• 38:07
  Yeah.
• 38:08
  I predict he won't do this.
• 38:10
  Well, we'll see.
• 38:11
  He was very outspoken about it when he was out of there, when he before he got in there, rather, you know.
• 38:15
  No, he wasn't.
• 38:16
  No, he wasn't.
• 38:16
  Not about the vaccines.
• 38:18
  Well, that's no, listen, no one in the administration said a word against the vaccines.
• 38:23
  No, no, not while he was in the office before then.
• 38:26
  No, before he didn't.
• 38:27
  Before he was tweeting that he's advising pregnant women to take the vaccine.
• 38:32
  Oh my golly, really.
• 38:33
  Yeah.
• 38:33
  So no.
• 38:33
  Now it's being reported that he has a these reports are in the news.
• 38:37
  No, so Macri's most courageous.
• 38:39
  Listen, I was on with Fox him all the time.
• 38:41
  The most courageous thing Macri did he said, well, the government is spreading misinformation and that we shouldn't lock down or wear masks.
• 38:48
  You know, same thing with Botachara.
• 38:50
  Their courage uh ex essentially went to masking and lockdowns.
• 38:56
  They didn't touch the vaccines.
• 38:57
  They all took the vaccines.
• 38:58
  I I remember that, actually.
• 38:59
  You're right.
• 39:00
  I remember seeing them on broadcast, and they kind of did.
• 39:02
  Now that you say it, I think you're right.
• 39:04
  But if Macri comes out now and says, listen, these COVID vaccines were bad and they wouldn't let me investigate it then he's really won me over.
• 39:13
  I don't think he'll do it.
• 39:14
  I can tell you he's not gonna have any problem in his future with these glowing reports that he got from the White House right now.
• 39:20
  He'll have no problem with whatever he wants to do next.
• 39:24
  He'll go on and be a media uh person and you know.
• 39:27
  Listen, J Gupta is on CNN for a long time.
• 39:30
  Now he's a surgeon, yeah, and he's a media guy.
• 39:33
  But he he doesn't have any depth of knowledge.
• 39:35
  The same thing with Macri.
• 39:36
  There's no depth of knowledge.
• 39:37
  They just present themselves well.
• 39:39
  Yeah, well, they're they're not you.
• 39:41
  I mean, you're you're a different breed.
• 39:43
  Uh, but uh then most of them are talking heads, and that's where they stay.
• 39:47
  That's all they're they need to do.
• 39:48
  Well, that's what they're doing with this henta virus.
• 39:51
  They're saying it's spreading person to person.
• 39:53
  They're just following a talking point.
• 39:55
  Exactly.
• 39:55
  That someone sends them in an immediate request.
• 39:58
  All right.
• 39:58
  All right.
• 39:59
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• 43:00
  So let's get on with this first one is from Megan.
• 43:03
  Does the spike detox essentially stop myocarditis, turbo cancer and the other ailments and reverse the risk?
• 43:13
  Also, if you start detox two years post-Jab, is it not too late as the damage may have already occurred?
• 43:19
  It's never too late to start detox.
• 43:22
  And I do believe this takes away, you know, the underpinnings of risk.
• 43:28
  So certainly for myocarditis and for blood clots.
• 43:31
  Cancer is a little bit trickier.
• 43:33
  I don't know if all the cancer risk is taken away.
• 43:36
  But spike detox is fundamentally something that anyone can do if they've had the infection and they've had the vaccine and and they're worried.
• 43:46
  And I saw a patient today, for instance, who had Parkinson's, who's convinced that after the shots, his Parkinson's is worsened.
• 43:53
  And I said, Well, this is something you can do.
• 43:56
  So you know, I think everybody ought to consider this.
• 44:00
  There still are late problems.
• 44:02
  People are noticing things are accelerating in their lives.
• 44:07
  Uh, you know, chronic problems and spike detox is a constructive step.
• 44:12
  Okay.
• 44:12
  Well, this one's from Sam.
• 44:14
  Uh I've recently learned that two acquaintances of mine have been diagnosed with conditions that occurred pretty soon after their respective COVID infections and around the time they received the COVID shots.
• 44:26
  One person was diagnosed with 3 PD and vestibular migraines, vestibular migraines.
• 44:33
  The other person was diagnosed with myasthenia gravis.
• 44:36
  Uh, is it possible that these could have occurred because of the infection or after a series of the COVID shots?
• 44:44
  What do you think?
• 44:44
  Yes, the answer is the answer is yes to both, and they've been fully described.
• 44:49
  They also, in my opinion, are reversible.
• 44:51
  And I've had several cases of myasthenia gravis where we have to use Mestinon and standard drugs, but we start spike detoxification.
• 44:59
  And in these cases, I've also used ivermectin because I think the virus is still active in their system replicating.
• 45:06
  And patients have pulled out of it.
• 45:07
  So I want to get on to this one here.
• 45:10
  There are there are this is from Ash, and they sent this in a couple of times, and I uh but there are three questions.
• 45:16
  Let me do them one at a time here to be sure.
• 45:19
  Uh and these are three urgent questions they say this will probably help other unvaxxed people uh as well have the same questions, they believe so.
• 45:27
  One of my provax friends claimed that his community doctor said that the vaccine stops transmission of the disease to a significantly greater extent than having no vaccine.
• 45:36
  The doctor apparently claimed that if a vaccinated person could spread the disease to five people, the same person unvaccinated could spread the disease to 15 people.
• 45:45
  Is there any truth to this?
• 45:47
  Not for the COVID vaccines.
• 45:49
  So for sure, the CDC came out in August of 2021, Rachel Wensky and said, no, it does not reduce spread of disease.
• 45:58
  Yeah.
• 45:58
  Yeah, and I think they're talking about COVID here, as far as I can see.
• 46:01
  So I think they are.
• 46:02
  Now, listen, let me give uh some fair credit.
• 46:04
  So to some other illnesses.
• 46:07
  So, for instance, measles and chickenpox.
• 46:10
  Yeah, I think the answer is yes.
• 46:12
  That someone who takes the vaccine is less likely to spread it.
• 46:15
  Yeah, totally.
• 46:15
  So it's it's each vaccine is different.
• 46:18
  Yeah.
• 46:18
  But the COVID shots, no, people, I mean, 81% of Americans took the shots, and COVID just kept ripping through the population.
• 46:26
  There's no way it did anything.
• 46:28
  Anybody listening to this program would know the answer to that first one very much.
• 46:31
  So I gotta tell you that.
• 46:33
  Number two on this list is what's the difference between vaccine-induced myocarditis and COVID-induced myocarditis?
• 46:40
  Uh what's the severity difference between each type of myopitis?
• 46:44
  I've seen both now in my practice, and I can tell you the vaccine myocarditis is milder.
• 46:50
  The virus has never been found in the heart.
• 46:53
  Uh there are uh there have not been uh serious outcomes that I'm aware of.
• 47:02
  Um I guess I've been aware of one case of myoparicarditis that needed a cardiac surgery.
• 47:07
  I I know his case, you know, personally.
• 47:11
  The vaccine myocarditis, you know, has been fatal.
• 47:13
  I mean, there have been thousands of people who just die on the spot with the vaccine when it hits the heart.
• 47:19
  So uh in a paper by Mead, M E A D, that's the best summary of this.
• 47:24
  Uh, we conclude that yes, the infection can cause myocarditis and the vaccine can cause myocarditis, but the vaccine is responsible for way more myocarditis and far more serious cases.
• 47:36
  Okay, and lastly, is it safe to mix Novavax with the mRNA jabs?
• 47:41
  Is it safe to get the NovaVAX as their second and third shot if one had initially received the Pfizer?
• 47:48
  It'd be further be preferable to not take any more spike protein in the body, but if forced into it, I mean, if I had a gun to my head, I would take Novavex, which is just five micrograms of the spike protein.
• 47:59
  And the safety of profile Novavex is far better than Pfizer Moderna.
• 48:04
  And you know, this this listener, by the way, is from Canada, Peter.
• 48:07
  He says here next, unfortunately it's getting more and more difficult here in socialist Canada.
• 48:12
  There seems to be no escape from these damn mandates.
• 48:16
  Wow.
• 48:16
  There you go.
• 48:17
  And they are pretty aggressive still out there, by the way, you know.
• 48:20
  Um, we would go to Canada periodically.
• 48:23
  My wife's a Canadian, my kids are Canadian, and uh I don't get it.
• 48:27
  It seems like a nice, reasonable, orderly place, but they they fell very quickly into um you know, this authoritarian approach.
• 48:38
  And you see it right now in the Netherlands.
• 48:40
  Can you imagine?
• 48:41
  Uh no credible evidence that these six people needed to wear a hazmat suit, and now they're ordered into 45 days of confinement.
• 48:50
  That's nuts.
• 48:51
  Absolutely nuts.
• 48:52
  This next one is from Gaston.
• 48:54
  I watched your interview with Theo Vaughn, a brilliant interview.
• 48:58
  In that uh interview, uh you had mentioned uh Kristen's uh, I believe it's Kristen's uh autopsy findings, yeah, showing the MRNA at the scene of the crime, uh, as Dr.
• 49:00
  Uh you had mentioned uh Kristen's uh I believe it's Kristen's uh autopsy findings, yeah, showing the mRNA at the scene of the crime, uh as Dr.
• 49:10
  McCullough puts it.
• 49:10
  McCullough puts it.
• 49:11
  Horrific.
• 49:11
  Horrific.
• 49:12
  Vaughn mentioned, however, that they couldn't find the MRNA 30 days from vaccination.
• 49:12
  Vaughn mentioned, however, that they couldn't find the mRNA 30 days from vaccination.
• 49:16
  Now I'm intrigued by that.
• 49:16
  Now I'm intrigued by that.
• 49:17
  Does that mean the mRNA has degraded and was gone?
• 49:17
  Does that mean the mRNA has degraded and was gone?
• 49:20
  Uh, or does an antibody result below 1,000 mean no more myocarditis, even if you had it previously?
• 49:20
  Uh, or does an antibody result below 1,000 mean no more myocarditis, even if you had it previously?
• 49:27
  Yeah, I think both.
• 49:27
  Yeah, I think both.
• 49:29
  I mean, below a thousand.
• 49:29
  I mean, below a thousand, we've looked at we've tried to find a threshold of safety.
• 49:33
  And I think a thousand is the the number.
• 49:36
  Once the antibody less than a thousand binding units per ml, I don't think there's any measurable um spike protein in the system.
• 49:44
  So we're doing some research right now through a range of spike antibodies to see what the spike antigen is.
• 49:49
  Um but I think you're free and clear.
• 49:51
  Uh like I gave the example of my mother-in-law, right?
• 49:54
  So she's at 200 antibodies.
• 49:57
  I think it's out of her system.
• 49:59
  I'm watching her carefully.
• 50:00
  It's been five years from the shot, and mama is perfectly fine.
• 50:05
  Oh.
• 50:05
  And I think there's a lot Malcolm, I think there's a lot of people out there like that.
• 50:09
  And that's great news.
• 50:10
  That is terrific news.
• 50:11
  Yeah.
• 50:12
  And your mom is 90, what?
• 50:13
  90 My wife's mom's 93.
• 50:15
  She lives with us.
• 50:16
  Your wife's mom.
• 50:17
  Okay, right, right.
• 50:18
  Right.
• 50:18
  That's right.
• 50:18
  Yeah.
• 50:19
  All right.
• 50:19
  This one is from Pam.
• 50:21
  I've listened to America Out Loud for the last uh three years plus, and you wouldn't believe how much I've learned from the program.
• 50:28
  Thank you all.
• 50:29
  Uh now, given the uh given the Iamoda lab uh measures mRNA and spike protein.
• 50:35
  Have you seen before and after levels of spike and mRNA concentration?
• 50:39
  There might be a method to know for sure if there's junk is to be removed.
• 50:44
  We have certainly in the the case of my patient who we've uh published in the European Commission server, uh the Zenodo server.
• 50:52
  So he uh uh when we first captured him, he had taken three shots, he had a blood clot, he had myocarditis.
• 50:59
  The emotions lab finds Pfizer in his bloodstream as well as Pfizer spike in his bloodstream.
• 51:06
  He never had the infection, so we so we can't we ruled out the infection.
• 51:11
  Um and we find it in his skin.
• 51:14
  And then he goes on spike detox, and you know, it's probably about nine months later.
• 51:19
  We re-assess everything, and it's uh out of his bloodstream, and I think there's just a trace of it left in his skin.
• 51:27
  So it's clearly the spike detox is getting rid of it.
• 51:30
  There you go.
• 51:30
  It works.
• 51:31
  Um's from Tristan.
• 51:34
  Is the cancer risk cumulative?
• 51:37
  Uh and do you think the worst is yet to come in terms of the vaccine cancer and the cardiac issues?
• 51:42
  And also, do vitamin D3 and K2 help with vaccine injuries such as myocarditis and cancer, as well as for spike removal.
• 51:51
  Um I think cancer risk, um, like almost everything is dose-related.
• 51:56
  So the people who took the most shots are going to be at the higher risk.
• 52:00
  It's just like whoever got the most radiation or whoever smoked the most.
• 52:05
  I mean, cancer is kind of an exposure situation.
• 52:09
  So I th I would predict those who took the most shots would have the highest uh cancer risk uh over time.
• 52:15
  From the time a cancer begins to the time it's clinically recognized, Malcolm is five years.
• 52:21
  Five years.
• 52:22
  Wow.
• 52:23
  So let's say somebody took their last booster in 2023.
• 52:27
  Right.
• 52:28
  Well, you got to 2028, I think, to see a cancer pop up.
• 52:32
  So is it is that a general rule with any kind of cancer you're saying it's a very important thing to do.
• 52:39
  Five years.
• 52:39
  In other words, you have it in your body well before you ever know it.
• 52:42
  Yeah.
• 52:43
  Yeah.
• 52:44
  That's the problem, isn't it?
• 52:46
  Yeah.
• 52:46
  So um, so that's what we know there.
• 52:50
  Now, vitamin D and K2, we've reviewed this at McCullough Foundation.
• 52:54
  Nick Closcher has viewed this.
• 52:55
  So if you go to thefocalpoints.com, sign up, search vitamin D.
• 53:00
  Uh uh those on vitamin D had far less myocarditis and less severe myocarditis.
• 53:08
  So there's an important relationship there.
• 53:10
  I always have all my patients on vitamin D at least 10,000 units a day, and then 100 micrograms of vitamin K2.
• 53:20
  Wow.
• 53:20
  Interesting.
• 53:21
  All right.
• 53:22
  We're gonna uh get this one in from BB.
• 53:25
  Uh is every single vaccinated person a genetic dead end in the sense that if the mRNA can be passed on to the baby, what's your expert opinion of what can we do to prevent this or reverse this?
• 53:40
  Is detox enough?
• 53:42
  I don't think it's a genetic dead end.
• 53:45
  Um I think it's possible to transmit this as part of the code onto the baby.
• 53:50
  We don't know how much.
• 53:52
  Um I think you know, a good course of uh ultimate spike detox for at least a year or so from the wellness company, spike antibodies less than a thousand, therapeutic sauna and sweating.
• 54:03
  Um I have great hope that you can get this stuff out of your body.
• 54:06
  I think people at low low antibody levels right now, like my mother-in-law, I think it's out of her body.
• 54:12
  I don't think much got in.
• 54:14
  Remember the shots weren't all the same.
• 54:16
  Right, that's right.
• 54:17
  Depends upon the batch, right?
• 54:18
  And what was going on.
• 54:20
  And uh these um uh there were a lot of factors involved in that, of course.
• 54:24
  And some people got lucky.
• 54:25
  But you're one other thing to remind people of Dr.
• 54:28
  McCullough is sweating.
• 54:29
  Sweating is good for you in this case.
• 54:30
  It's good for you.
• 54:31
  Get out there.
• 54:32
  How many days are you outside Malcolm Walking now?
• 54:34
  Oh, it is uh today is get uh drum roll, please.
• 54:38
  Let's get to that point.
• 54:40
  389.
• 54:42
  Oh, man, we're close to uh 400.
• 54:45
  Yeah, 389.
• 54:47
  Uh and uh that's I'm looking at the app right now, is what it says here.
• 54:50
  So yeah, you know, it's it's about lifestyle.
• 54:52
  So everybody you gotta we all gotta work at it hard.
• 54:55
  Uh we gotta take care of ourselves.
• 54:57
  And uh I make a commitment, whether it's 35 degrees or 95 degrees.
• 55:02
  Um you make a commitment with yourself, you gotta you gotta honor that commitment.
• 55:05
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• 55:09
  Just as serious if I made a commitment to Dr.
• 55:11
  McCullough, I'd honor that commitment.
• 55:13
  And it's the same thing with our health.
• 55:15
  It's so important when you make these decisions in life to do that.
• 55:18
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• 55:20
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• 55:56
  Yeah, I agree.
• 55:57
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• 56:00
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• 56:01
  But I have to say the last several years have been the healthiest years of my life.
• 56:04
  They have.
• 56:04
  They have because I remember in the early part of it, you were sick all the time.
• 56:08
  Listen, we've given me hell.
• 56:09
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• 56:10
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• 56:11
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• 56:13
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• 56:18
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