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Jimmy Graham on playing with A-Rod, Russ, and Brees, Attempting a Rowing World Record, and Flying to Work · NFL Game Previews

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  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome on in. I'm jobless, so I got nothing
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  Speaker 1: but time to stick to my podcasts. Off the edge
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  Speaker 1: of podcast for me, Cam Jordan. Just know we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about what it's like to be at Ghana because
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  Speaker 1: I went to Ghana after across Ghana this last week.
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  Speaker 1: Then of course we're going to talk about the games
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  Speaker 1: that happened. I'm trying to you know, three two, three
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  Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, I'm trying to watch the NFL
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  Speaker 1: games as well as bringing my guy, you know, Jimmy
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  Speaker 1: Graham coming up. I'm excited, So let's get in with it.
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  Speaker 1: First off, I went to Acra, Ghana. All my life.
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  Speaker 1: I've been calling to Afra, Ghana, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: back to the Motherland. Dipped into Egypt a couple years
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  Speaker 1: back and was like, I have to get back to Africa.
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  Speaker 1: One day, had the opportunity to go to Acra. Wife,
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  Speaker 1: he was supposed to go with me, her mom was
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  Speaker 1: gonna watch the kids. A couple days before the trip,
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  Speaker 1: her mom was like, can't watch the kids working. That's
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  Speaker 1: a retire woman. You're messing up. You're messing up this livelihood.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, you know, she's a strong a strong, independent
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  Speaker 1: black woman. She refused to retire. It is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: My wife had to stay home with the kids, and
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  Speaker 1: I went to a crawl like. I was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna hit Ghana. Then I was like, Lagos is
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  Speaker 1: right there, Nigeria. There's an hour flight. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: and then I could probably even finesse this cape town
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  Speaker 1: that I've been trying to get to all my life.
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  Speaker 1: But it's okay. Once her mom wasn't able to watch
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  Speaker 1: the kids, I was like, well, bab you know there's
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  Speaker 1: there's Lagos Legos over there, and she was like, so
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  Speaker 1: you're just gonna go extend your trip. I lost that
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  Speaker 1: battle so fast. It's weird. It's just some hills aren't
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  Speaker 1: worth climbing because if I get to the top of
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  Speaker 1: the hill, I'm willing to die on it. I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: willing to die on this hill, so I submitted. And
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  Speaker 1: plus I had to get back to the cast. What
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  Speaker 1: you wouldn't do from a magical majestic beach from Ghana side, No,
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  Speaker 1: I got to be back here and doing this baby
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  Speaker 1: with these beautiful, you know, portraits of myself here for
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  Speaker 1: the podcast. I missed my family. After five days I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I was. I was in love with Ghana, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was. I got I went out there for a
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  Speaker 1: quick little commercial shoot with the NFL, which means I
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  Speaker 1: was on their time and their dollar, but I had
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  Speaker 1: time to myself. Went out there. There was there was
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  Speaker 1: some dope players out there. I was around a legend
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  Speaker 1: of the game. I mean, I don't know how much
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  Speaker 1: I can actually go into because you'll see the commercial
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  Speaker 1: spot in a couple of weeks and you know, super bowlish.
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  Speaker 1: So when I landed, they were like, oh, you're tired,
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  Speaker 1: so we gave you the night off. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I took off at like four o'clock Wednesday. I think
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  Speaker 1: I landed at like whatever that is, just call it
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  Speaker 1: nine o'clock PM on Thursday. I think. Get there and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, what are we getting into? And there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my guy Sekuan is there, say kuon Barkley, dope.
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  Speaker 1: My guy Tim Ellis from the NFL is there? His titles?
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  Speaker 1: What CFO whatever that is? You know, the crew that's
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  Speaker 1: going to be partaking in it. I'm there at the
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  Speaker 1: and I walk in and I'm like, yeah, we're going
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  Speaker 1: He's like, no, man, you know going home down We
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  Speaker 1: got an early shoot day and I'm like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: it's cool it with me tonight. And then you know,
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  Speaker 1: just forward of some room service and room services. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't room servicing. It wasn't when I went it. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't get on a twenty hour flight to not have
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  Speaker 1: indigenous food. So I had a fry and it was like, nope,
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: never mind, I'm gonna crack open this book. I started
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  Speaker 1: this book right which I thought I was gonna watch
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  Speaker 1: movies on the plane ride. I thought I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: do whatever. I finished this book in acrawl the first night.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Fourth Wing by I don't even know how
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  Speaker 1: to say her name, Alyssa y Borrows, Alyssa whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: This is a dragon book, sci fi. This book. I
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  Speaker 1: was walking and there was a store in Atlanta. I
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  Speaker 1: picked up this book, The Fourth Wing again. This sci
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  Speaker 1: fi dragon book took me back to my AMM McCaffrey days,
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  Speaker 1: back when I used want to be a dragon writer
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  Speaker 1: as a kid. Whatever, right, just to see you know
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  Speaker 1: what it's talking about. Finish this book. Needed the second
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  Speaker 1: book on the downloaded the second book on the iPad.
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  Speaker 1: Finished that book too, on the way back. But now
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  Speaker 1: I'm hooked. And apparently there's only two books out of
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  Speaker 1: the four book story. So now I'm in a craw,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my first full day in acraw, and I've
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  Speaker 1: got the day off because I think they switched my
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  Speaker 1: day with say Quan's day of filming or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 1: So now I've got the day off, and like, I
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  Speaker 1: need to see what needs to be seen. So in
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  Speaker 1: the independence market, I see our independence, the little you know,
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  Speaker 1: the resemblance of whatever they became their own governance. We
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  Speaker 1: saw that. There's a couple of landmarks I had to
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  Speaker 1: see and then it was like I was like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: where does the national team Ghanan national team soccer play?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: So I saw that and I was like, all right, dope,
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  Speaker 1: what next? I was like, I need to eat food
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  Speaker 1: and I need to be food here. And then you
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  Speaker 1: know the way it was set up that there was
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  Speaker 1: always a chaperone with me and two security guards. There
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  Speaker 1: was like a like a whole thing. I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: whenever I travel, I've never had this much activity around me,
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  Speaker 1: Like I go either with myself, with my boys, with
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  Speaker 1: my wife, but like maybe there's a hopefully there's a
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  Speaker 1: translator there if we were in like a super far
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  Speaker 1: country that you know, is it partaking, But this is
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  Speaker 1: the crowd, like almost everybody speaked English. At some point
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  Speaker 1: I learned that there was like dozens of dialects of
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  Speaker 1: their native language within the same very city. So as
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  Speaker 1: a you know barometer, they're like all these different languages.
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  Speaker 1: The even plainfield is English. And I said, hello, guess
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  Speaker 1: what I'm specializing. I can't go as hood as we
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  Speaker 1: want to. I can go as you know suburbers. We
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  Speaker 1: need to to get this point across. So here I
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  Speaker 1: am thinking, I'm like, yo, there's gonna be a language barrier.
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  Speaker 1: There was no such thing. So now my confidence at
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  Speaker 1: the utmost high. We start walking these markets so that
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  Speaker 1: I'm super chill, super simple. We walk into this you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm walking through this market, but there's a security guard
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  Speaker 1: of my right, security guard on my left, there's a
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  Speaker 1: cheperone behind me. I'm like, I can't do it anything.
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  Speaker 1: So in this market I did them. I felt like Aladdin,
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  Speaker 1: a Laddin Acroba, like just running through the market, dish them, breakthrough,
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  Speaker 1: send off a text like hey, I'll be back. So
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  Speaker 1: you know they were alarmed or whatever. So I go
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  Speaker 1: into the little shanty whatever. I'm just I'm following my
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  Speaker 1: nose wherever it goes. I'm smelling through the market. Like
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, that smell is amazing. I need
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  Speaker 1: to try that out. They're trying to tell me what
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  Speaker 1: it is moint point something like that. I'm like, all right, cool,
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  Speaker 1: So then I'm checking that out. You know, I eat
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  Speaker 1: some eat some food some like you know, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: call it street food because like I visibly saw the grill, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, in my mind, any of any whatever
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  Speaker 1: is going to get cooked off, right, any bacteria. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to give you some fake Joe Rogan science.
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  Speaker 1: Just know, I was like, in my mind, this was
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  Speaker 1: making it makes sense. One plus one is two hot,
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  Speaker 1: delicious spicy chicken smell coming into my nose, plus it
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  Speaker 1: being on a grill equals all that bacteria probably getting
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  Speaker 1: burned off. That was my math. I had it there.
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  Speaker 1: Next thing I know, you know, I got flanked again,
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  Speaker 1: my security guard, my security guard, my chaperone, and for
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the day we walked the markets and
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  Speaker 1: you know, it was good times. Great Ganan people are
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  Speaker 1: kind as they come. By the second day, we do
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  Speaker 1: the shoot I'm walking through the markets, got this, you know,
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  Speaker 1: got the NFL New Orleans Saints gear on. I'm repped up.
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  Speaker 1: I get to, you know, meet this amazing kid and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you're good name and he was like no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nigerian. I was like, what, so we're shooting this commercial.
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  Speaker 1: Here's either way, but super amazing just to even be
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  Speaker 1: involved in this, like this situation. You know, the NFL
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  Speaker 1: has that outreach program and of course legends like Oco
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  Speaker 1: man yours there, the linebacker from the Browns, Jeremiah's there
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  Speaker 1: and he's garbed out and got I said, I need that,
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  Speaker 1: like whatever this traditional garb is. My man has got
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  Speaker 1: this orange seherd, got gold dripping down and reminded me
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  Speaker 1: of like, I'm gonna get you, sucker. If a lot
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  Speaker 1: of kids are not going to catch that reference though
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: you know these nineties kids are weird, but I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: get you sucker. Was this was this Wayne's comedy where
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: it was like the old g's were dripped out in
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  Speaker 1: gold and I was like, no, that's the vibe. I said,
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  Speaker 1: I need one of those. So you know, that's the
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  Speaker 1: second day I was. There was a photo shoot. The
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  Speaker 1: third day uh ended up and then I found this
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  Speaker 1: hole in the wall. You know, my guy Ocium in
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  Speaker 1: your living you know, football legend from h I believe Nigeria,
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  Speaker 1: but you know he's he's out there and linked with
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  Speaker 1: him and his boy. And I was like, YoY, man,
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  Speaker 1: don't take me nowhere. Like if I see any Central
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  Speaker 1: Europeans people of descent from there, that's not where I
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  Speaker 1: want to be. I want to go where the locals eat.
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  Speaker 1: I want I want to feel the fire, like I
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  Speaker 1: need that joh Off that you know, I need that
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  Speaker 1: joll loft that that I'm gonna be proud to say,
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  Speaker 1: Hey man, I got I got real joll Off, not
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  Speaker 1: that not that you know, stuff they feed at the
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  Speaker 1: hotels or you know, you know what I'm saying, just
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  Speaker 1: a local. So we go to there's places called shay
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  Speaker 1: Clariss I believe. And when I tell you this thing
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  Speaker 1: was busted. First of all, they were telling me about
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  Speaker 1: you know, just some of the foods. Right, we had
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  Speaker 1: joll Off and then you had the grouper that came
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  Speaker 1: out that had all these like saute onions and spices
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  Speaker 1: and like the spice level is crazy work. We're going
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  Speaker 1: on like top tier, and I said, yo, this is
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  Speaker 1: where I need to be. You know, as I'm eating,
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  Speaker 1: there was nowhere other place that I wanted to be
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  Speaker 1: that in my plate of food. You know, they live
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  Speaker 1: by it. They're like, oh, you have to try the plantains.
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not gonna lie to you. Plantains for
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  Speaker 1: all the height that they get in different countries. Mid Now,
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  Speaker 1: you give me a yoka. I'm happy because it's the
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  Speaker 1: close thing I'm gonna get to a French fry. But
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh man, the spice we put on our
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  Speaker 1: plantains make it so much better here here mid So
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: here we go, you know, the food comes out. But
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: then they got this this green hobber Niro hot sauce
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  Speaker 1: that is kicking my butt in the best way. We
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: talked about the spice, the flavors, just the heat level
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  Speaker 1: is taking me there. I feel like I'm in Cabo
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  Speaker 1: and I'm over here eating one of those ghost chili peppers.
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  Speaker 1: But there's got so much flavor to it, Like it's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: If you haven't figured out now, when I'm traveling, I
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  Speaker 1: really judge a place by the food that I consume.
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  Speaker 1: Like a lot of people like you know, my wife,
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  Speaker 1: she's very up on the historic sites. Oh we went
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  Speaker 1: to and saw this painting and the architecture. You know,
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: my dad is huge, he's engineer, huge on architecture. Oh man,
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: well this building was in you know, set up in
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  Speaker 1: seventeen fifty five and this wasn't the residents that they
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  Speaker 1: had here. Man, I'm judging place directly by food. Is
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: it cracking, is it busting? What's it like? How do
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: we socially convene? And that's Opra food for me. You know.
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: So the highlight would be probably going to this bar
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: Honeysuckle trying to watch the NFL games. You know, got
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: gotta wash his game while Live DJ was hitting nothing
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  Speaker 1: but afrobeats, good food was flowing in. Then I'm trying
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: to watch his game. It was the first game was
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: probably like ten o'clock at night, the next one was
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  Speaker 1: like three am. And now I understand the commitment level
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: because there were so many people in that bar trying
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: to watch these games. It was dope. I sort of love,
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: you know, Dan Campbell's team over Detroit, Jared Goff, Aaron Glenn,
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: Chauncey Gardner, Johnson, you know, get a win over Tampa
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: Bay and rolled into this NFC Championship week against the
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers, which brought purty. There's so much, you know,
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: it's crazy how they came so much hype around a
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: player for one year and then the next year, all
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: a sudden, he's taking steps back, which he's clearly not
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: helping lead his team. You know, I call him chand
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: the guy, but he's not. He's a Gilbert kid from
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: Arizona leading, helping lead the Niners into an nc second
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  Speaker 1: NFC Championship game this upcoming week. Then of course you've
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: got Baltimore Ravens and Pat Mahomes and the Kansas City
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: Chiefs in the AFC game. I don't know, just just
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: thinking about the Bills, the height that was around the
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: Bills Chiefs game. Is there a chance the Bills will
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: never get to an AMC Championship game if they have
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: to face the Chiefs because at this point postseason, they're undefeated.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: The Chiefs beat the Bills was now four times. It's
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: not a okay anyways. But when we come back, I'm
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: gonna bring in my guy, Jimmy Graham on Off the
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: Edge of podcast. I've got here on Off the Edge
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  Speaker 1: with my with my own podcast, but I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it's not my own today because I get to bring
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: in one of my one of my guys I looked
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: up to when I got to the league, you know,
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: probably literally and and you know figured that we speaking
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: saying in at six nine or whatever you want to
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: you want to call yourself. But you know a teammate
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: when I first got to the Saints, and I watched
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  Speaker 1: him leave, go to Seattle, become the highest paid tight end,
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  Speaker 1: and then he went you know, other places and came
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  Speaker 1: back to the Saints past year where he was my teammate. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: to finish off, you know, maybe finish off. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: to it. On such a phenomenal career, thirteen years in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. Could we could fight for fourteen? But it
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: is what it is, you know, five time Pro bowler,
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  Speaker 1: two time All Pro, a man, a man who sued
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, a man he knows no bounds.
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Griham, my dog, my tight end. You know, my brother,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you hopping on the always man.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know we've been talking about it for
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  Speaker 2: a long time. Man, but it's cool to see you know, like,
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  Speaker 2: how how far you have come, uh since those since
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  Speaker 2: those meeker days of your rookie year.
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  Speaker 1: You know, man, just think about twenty eleven. If I
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: would have had a podcast in twenty eleven, I would
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: have lost my job, what like, would have got kicked off.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think I think half of us would
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  Speaker 2: have been probably uh you know what I mean. I mean, honestly,
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: it's such a different era. You know, this, this whole
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: podcast era has done so much to expose not exposed,
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: but to introduce like fans into so many players interests,
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  Speaker 2: so many players' lives. And you know, I just think
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it's something that's that's really uh elevated the
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: game for for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Man. It's like it's like you you look over and
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: Michael Parsons has a pod.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: It used to be like guys would have to retire first,
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: you know, Marcus Spears, the Ryan Clark's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and you had to have like some accolades. It's some
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: like you can't just be anybody, you know. It took
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: Nate like Nate Burson had to go to Good Morning
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: for ball first and then go somewhere else. And he
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: goes and he played like eleven years in the league,
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: like he had to work his way up and now
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: he's that guy. But you know now again, So now
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: you got guys that, like, you know, Max Crosby has
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: a podcast, Von Miller has you know has a pod.
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  Speaker 1: It's all these guys across the league that you're getting
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: that in depth feel. And you know, me and Mark
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: used to have one and now it's just me. It's
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: just like, just like my teammates do Bro, they leave
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  Speaker 1: me and I wish them better, and he's on TV
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: killing the college scene and I'm just holding down a
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  Speaker 1: little pod.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you'll be doing the same thing whenever you retired. Man,
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: you got you got a big future as we all know.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: As we all know, hey that is that is to
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: be seen. But while we're here in the NFL, we're
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: gonna have a great time, no doubt. We're the only
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: two of the sort of like we were the consecutive
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: years after the New Orleans Saint Super Bowl. So like
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: I just feel like we're old enough to remember them
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: having a Super Bowl, but not old enough participate and
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: just like wanting to be part of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean if you go back, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I can go back to my rookie year
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  Speaker 2: and you know, come, I remember the first time I
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: was in the ones huddle with Drew Brees. It was
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: Drew Brees, Marcus Colston, Lance Moore, Reggie Bush, Jeremy Shockey
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: and the best old line in all the football. And
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: uh he rattled off this play and I didn't know
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: what he was talking about. I mean, he said it
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: so quick. He said it probably ten times Scots in
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Chase Daniels. Uh so, so I just basically just stayed
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: there and stared at him, and he said, hey, just
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: just run an out rock. Thanks. You know, I mean,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: it was it was to sit in that huddle with
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: all those stars, you know, I mean with all I mean,
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Jeremy Shocky was a rock star, Reggie Bush one of
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: the most famous guys in the NFL, obviously Drew Brees,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: you know, the saint and you know, to sit there
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: and be a part of that after a year before
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: being on a basketball court, man, there was there was
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: no like every time I ever think or here's somebody say, oh,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: life's the simulation, Well that was my simulation moment for sure. Man.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: You know, i'ously all of a sudden sitting there and uh,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: you know, basically being in the video game.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, For those that don't know, Jimmy went
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: to the U at the very end where maybe they
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: weren't you anymore. But like, you know, it is what
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: it played. It played basketball there. At least at least
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: we know that was good basketball.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: You know football, listen, listen. We still had a great team.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Obviously when I came in, there was Devin Hester, Greg
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Olsen was still there. You know what I mean, We
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: still had guys. We just you know, kind of weren't
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: figuring out kind of the way to win. And then
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: you know, obviously some things haven't really rolled our way
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: within the last last while.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: But I hear you, but at least, like you guys
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: still fight to be good. Like you know, what was
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: that two thousand and nine, two thousand and ten Amra
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Bowl whatever that was Cal beats University of Miami in
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: a bowl game. But like that was that was the
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: end of COW.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was the last thing you guys ever
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: did you know? Uh, you know, unfortunately, and now I
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: actually I love our current coach. I think he's doing
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: great things there and you know, obviously being able to
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: be back here in Miami get back involved with the program.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I might be on a couple of board seats and
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: you know, really.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Want to nil money roll out.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to get that. And honestly, the biggest
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: thing with the University of Miami is a stadium. You know,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: just playing a dolphin stadium just doesn't have to feel
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: like the Orange Bowl does. And you know, they really
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: need somebody who can raise money and push towards maybe
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: putting a like a small Typson stadium in this place
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: called Tropical Park down in the Gables. I mean, it
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: be the hot sicket to Miami, and obviously the city
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: would be able to use that, and we'd also be
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: able to throw you know, the the state championships there
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and just just do all kinds of things that kind
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: of the Orange Bowl was. We really need that back
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: for the university.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: M Hm, that happens, let me know, so I can
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: buy some land out there before them.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Definitely, I'll definitely let you know.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Perfect. You've been such a great teammate this whole especially
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: like my whole career, You've been my guy. But like
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: this year, I mean, I'm not gonna lie you. I
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: wanted so much more for for you this year than
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: you know, what was it? What was the what was
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: the astronomical rate? It was like six six targets, four touchdowns,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Braham, And I'm like, so, why you're You're on
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the sidelines hyped up. I'm on the sidelines hyped up.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: But the fact that it makes you that much more
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: like better of a teammate in my eyes is this
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: year it's like you were never down, bro, Like you
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: were consistently like giving juice to everybody. You on the sidelines, bro,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: just like amped up, holds out and.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like the man, you know, Man, with me, it's
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: all about winning, man, That's all I care about, and
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of the one of the number one
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: things I want to do. And the only reason that
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I decided in Autroy Tire and come back to the
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Rles was I wanted to mend a bunch of those
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: fences that you know that had kind of gotten burned
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: after I got traded and obviously after I see the NFL.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: But but for me, man, there's there's there's nothing better,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: or in my opinion, I remember how close everyone was
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: when they got to that championship, and then that's all
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I've ever yearned from my TAR career that opportunity to
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: go with my brothers and make that martial to the
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: super Bowl. So you know, for me, you know, I mean,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: even if I'm not up or if the opportunity is
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: not mine one, I know I'll be ready for it
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: because you know, we always ready to eat, you know
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, it's not it's not a question
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: of if we will be ready. If we will, and
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: we already know what's gonna happen when those opportunities come.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: But uh, you know, man, I was, I was. I
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: knew I was there also to help and uh you know,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I kind of as a mentor for a lot of
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: the younger guys. And then obviously my time with Juwan
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: was incredible this year, you know, just especially when he
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: finished the season. I'd love to see it and he
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: puts into work, so you know, I mean, I know
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: my role now is a little different, obviously being thirty
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: seven years old, but then I'm but you know, I'm
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: always be a competitor, man. I think I think no
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: matter who it is or or where it is, if
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: you get in the Resiona, man, uh, you know, in
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: a big unit's always ready.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Always ready. It turned up this year you snagged one
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: of them things. It was like it was too easy,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Like over the top didn't even with the Cuddy. It
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: was the red zone. Over the top must need like
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: third down and like twelve or something like that. Like
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: and this is why you say that used to call
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: carp can't call Carot more like Jimmy g next next series.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: You scored touchdown and was like what you came up
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: to the sideline, was like, I'm him, I was him,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I've been him. I am And I.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, you know, and it's just like obviously
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I love the game. That's what I'm gonna miss the most.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: It's kind of that just the height with your teammates. Man,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: there's there is nothing like that.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: So that tweet all love whatever whatever you say.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: And I looked at I was like, oh, he just
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: met like scenes over.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I mean nobody sent me up, you know.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I mean obviously you know I was, I was an
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: active for a couple of games and whatnot, So you know,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't know how people feel about me.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I mean I know that I know that I can
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: still run, I can still get open. You know, I'm
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: still bigg.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: So giving out work at practice.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean I was like first coming in
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and not playing for a year. I knew the big
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: question was like can this guy even move? You know,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, wasn't guy playing a decade ago? But with
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: all the biking I do. You know, I'm kind of
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: crazy when it comes to die and everything. Man, I
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: already knew it. I already knew like once my hamstrings
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: get used to the cutting, that that I was gonna
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: still be able to kill. And so you know, it
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: was just nice to be able to prove it kind
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: of basis, especially in practice.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Fact, I mean that's just it. You might have like
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: after taking a year off, there might have been a
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: cheat code, honestly, like let your body heal like an
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: off season. It takes you three and a half four
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: months to be like I'm good again.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I'm in onred percent. I mean really, so if you
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: can remember how kind of things went kind of in
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: the middle of my career, I get traded with the
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: knee brace. Yes, I mean I get traded for a
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: first round pick. I have some life stuff that went
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: down the off season and then we ten the highest
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: paid to ever live. I completely blow my knee up
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: and Victor Cruz called me and he said, hey, man,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: this one's impossible. You know, we had the same injury,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: and I'm looking at my career and you know, I'm
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: trying to make it, you know, a Hall of Fame career,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: and I'm looking at it like I might have even
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: play another snap. So to sit there and be on
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: crutches not way bearing for ten ten eleven weeks, I
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: had to learn how to walk, learn how to jog.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: And in that season my patello actually wasn't healed completely.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: But as you know, we gotta play, gotta meet, gotta meat,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: gotta gotta be an FDL can miss games. So I
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: played the whole season with incomplete Patilla ended up making
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. But basically every every season after that,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I was having like minor surgeries just clean up some stuff,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: just because I really wasn't able to let my knee
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: completely heal because the window and the off seasons just
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: so small, so I was just kind of always building
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: up for the seas and then this degradation of my
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: quad and my knee what happened during the season. So
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: taking that year off for me, man, it changed everything.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Like this is I mean my knee right now, it's
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: my knees are strong they've ever been and it was
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: from that year. And then obviously the bike, you.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Know right, Bi Yeah, man, you walked through the building.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: You're like, You're like, bro, He's like, yeah, man, I
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: just a car hit me while I was on my
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: bike and I made sure the car was okay the
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: hell you're on Jimmy facts?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Well no all. I mean, well, obviously I lost a
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: little bit of a way, so I was wondering. So
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: once I got hit out of that car and just
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: ate it, I was like, man, I probably still do
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: this football thing.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Can we just talk about this like this was an
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: off season. This is like, hey, I took you took
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: a year off, but like I don't know if I'm
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: coming back to football. So you're biking down and where
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: was it Miami?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I'm bucking done in Miami, and I'm I'm
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: trying to prepare because I got some hundred mile races
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: uh to head to and then I ended up going
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: to I knew I was going to Italy to ride
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: across Tuscany, which is like three hundred miles, so I
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: was just training. I was on my way back to
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: boat and I had left the peloton, so it was
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: kind of by myself. And about a week earlier there
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: was just like there's a there's a light where there's
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: kind of like a quick left turn, and every day
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I used to go about it. I was like, man,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: if somebody doesn't see me here, there's something dangerous. But
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: you know, I kind of kept alert. And then literally
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: a week later, I'm just going on. I'm like hitting
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: like twenty twenty five and I look and I'm like,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: does this guy see me? And I'm like I don't know,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: and he just yanks into me, and I mean that's
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: really all I could do is just kind of just
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: kind of brace for it. He hits me, I go
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: flying the bike. It was a it was a Mercedes Suv.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: It hit me and then the whole bike ricocheted on
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: my right leg and I go flying through the air
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: land on my back. My helmet like splits open. I
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: think I was wearing helmet obviously around a bike. Always
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: wear a helmet. Never Never think you don't need a helmet.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: And so at first I thought, I like, at first
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I honestly thought that I broke my femur with the bike.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: The bike was completely shattered. It shattered in like six places.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Everything was tore up.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: But I know the street bikes is light and built
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: for speed.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and the bike wasn't cheap. So the bike,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: it was like a twenty thousand bike. But so we
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: got to replace. We got to crash replacement Specialized shoutout.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it, but you know, I ended up getting
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: stitches at the hospital. But you know, I was on
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: a bike two days later, you know, and everything was fine. Man,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: always what type of bike is it?
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Because now I want to know because like I've got
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: an orbea and I thought my orbeit was is a
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: beautiful bike, and I was like, yeah, man, seven thousand
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: dollar a bike. I was like, I'm top of the line.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Like I had to work out to deal with them
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: because I was like, I'm not even.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, they're they're pretty and you got to think
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: about also the components. So my old bike was an
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: SL seven s work Specialized, but my new replacement was
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: a Slight, which is kind of their newer update, which
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: is beyond better, like in every way. The problem with
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: the SL seven for me, because I waste so much
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: is every time I would get up the sprint like
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I have a My max wattage is two thousands, so
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: when I go to sprint, I could feel the bike
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: like flexing beneath me, like nasty, Like it just didn't
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: interesting and feel right. And then once I now with
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: the SLA, it's more, it's got more stiffness, it's more arrow,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: It's like everything you want. And then my other bike,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: my climbing bike is a is a Pinarella Dogma and
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: No one was the most expensive one.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Bro, you have a climbing bike, see this, I'm you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I'm in Arizona, so I don't have heels, bro.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So so basically in Miami, I have an
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: arrow bike which is really my SO eight now, which
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: is on a one by on the front, so I
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: got a big chain ring on the front because we're
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: just on flats, so I can just rip and and
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: really the object the object of that is because you're
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: pedlo constant for three hours, you're behind people, you're in
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: a peloton, you're trying to do these sprints. But a
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: climber needs to be lighter and also needs a completely
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: different gearing on the back because being this big, you're
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: going to be like when I'm up there in North Carolina,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: or I go to Colorado, or I go to Europe
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: and bike, right.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: No jokes. Mountains are no jokes, bro, I was I
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: told you about that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I was in Bilbao and I did. I died. I
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: died three times. I felt embarrassed. I was like no.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, bro, I go fifteen twenty twenty five
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: miles in a day, like off just or whatever. He's like, yeah,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go for thirteen click and I was like
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: thirteen clicks. I was like, that's like six miles, seven miles,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: whatever that is. It's like I got that, bro, I
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: had it three times, just like there's.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, no, it's biking is the hardest, one
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: of the most competitive things I ever done in my
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: entire life. What these guys in the Twitter frances are
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: doing is I mean, it's there. They're basically killing themselves
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: every day through through a twenty one day period. Most
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: of those guys have like rabdough. They're completely wasted. They
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: lose all this. I mean, they're doing all they can
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: just to hold on. But when you're in the mountains, man,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: especially guys our size, oh it's so much work. The
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: amount of watch it. So the mountains is wats per quilo.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: That's how fast you know you can go off mountains.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: And obviously we weigh way too much again a bike
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: doing a thing like that. So we're working ten times
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: hard than anybody that's molling ten times man.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Like I see the CAFs going, I'm like, bro, I'm pumping.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I'm killing it, like I'm killing this right now. You're not.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you take.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Off this, you know, the car takes you out. You
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: take out the car, You hit the ground, Bro, you splits,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: you get up, you shake it off, and that makes
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: you be like, all right, I'm back, Like I'm ready
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: for football.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I think I can do this. But also because like
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: all the people I do and train with on a bike,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I kept telling everybody just how great my knee felt,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: you know. I was like, man, I feel unbelievable. And
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: plus I was I remember like I did like a
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: like a weak loading period before before I went down there,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: just so I was like, because I hadn't ran or
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: cut since twenty twenty one, I had done anything. I
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: hadn't seen a ball in the air. I mean, I
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: didn't do anything. I just showed up. So when I
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: was running, I felt bouncy like I used to, you know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: like back before the knee happened. I was like, man,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I feel like I could do a backslup right now.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: And so when I went down there, you know, obviously, man,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I still have the speed, still still could jump, and
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I can honestly say it was because of the bike
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: and what it did for my name one hundred.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Bro, you came, you came into what was that off season,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: whatever that was. You were like, you came to the building.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, you're not gonna text me and
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: let me know you coming back. I was like, I
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: was like, you want some jar like you want some
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Jarry Jamonsko was like what you want? You're like, noah, Bro,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I'm running this. He was like I think I got
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: to run a forty at like eight. He's like, now,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go run some browns whatever it is.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Or you came to practice the next day, Bro, I
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: was like, and Jimmy Matthews walked up to you like,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, you coached him, big.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Dog like you No, I'm out here. I'm out here
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: just just with you. It's funny to see. You know. Matthews, Man,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: we we had battled so many times on separate teams.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I remember when I came his rookie year. He was
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: talking all this cash in the media before we played,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: and Sean Payton was all over me about it. Sean
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Payton puts some like dB on me every down and
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: practice one on one and was like the honey Badger's
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: gonna be all over your honey budget. And and so
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: going to that game, I mean I was ready to die.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm a murderous dude. We ended up
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I ended up doing pretty well like that game, but
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: we ended up meeting up a couple of times in Seattle, Man,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: and just have battles when he was in Arizona. Man,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I have so much respect for him and just how
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: he handles his business.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: And because it comes up to your him.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, DoD Is, it's like unbelievable how productive he's been
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: and how special he is, you know, I mean, especially
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: at his size or hype. You know, it's just like unreal.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: His just his like his his intelligence of the game,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: his like nose for the ball is just beyond special.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Crazy crazy, Like I always just has a knack to
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: be where he's at. I've never had a I've never
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: got a chance to ask you out of you know,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you've you've seen what Jay Cunner, Aaron Rodgers, of course,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Drew Brees, you know, uh, you have Russ? Do you
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: have a favorite quarterback?
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Man? I? You know, I have my favorites in different ways,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like like like I break
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: things down on it, just just how they are as
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: a player, you know, and and and all three of
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: them are completely different, like human beings basically just how
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: they operate even on the field. Obviously, me and Drew
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: the connection, I don't think there was ever anything better,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: you know, we uh you know, I think now when
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: you see guys like Travis, you know, and and san
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Fran you know, it's like that was also based on
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: a lot that me and Drew were able to do.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Obviously alongside of Gronk and Brady. You know, when me
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: and Drew together for those five years, the numbers we
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: put up and where we're able to do, and really
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: just the connection was so special. Man. He knew exactly
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: what I was doing and I knew what he was doing.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: It was almost like we could read other thoughts and
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: then obviously went out of Seattle. They were more of
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: a run team, so you know, for me, they're like, hey,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I know you're used to getting the hundred balls the season,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: but if you get sixty here, you're gonna break every record.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I still have other records, but
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: it's it still was only like sixty. And they were right,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: it was, you know, I mean it was different because
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: we just ran the ball so much and a lot
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: of play action, a lot of scrambling. But with Russ,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I mean just kind of how we up. Like this dude,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: he was like never down, like ever about anything, you know.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: So we'd be down by three touchdounds, he said, all right,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: one more we're gonna like he's always saying, and so
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: like it makes you believe it, you know. And and
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: there was times when we came back and when you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: other times we would have just packed it up and
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: went to the next game. But man, he was he
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: was always so positive about everything. And then and then
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Aaron when it comes. I don't think I've ever seen
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: anybody throw the ball at Aaron Rogers. No, you know,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: my time there wasn't the greatest. Obviously, timing sucked. You know,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: my first year, Mike McCarthy gets fired. That was an
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: absolute mess. And then the second year, you know, mattla
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Flour comes in with a new offense, doesn't really give
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Aaron any power to do what he wants. So we
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: made an MC championship. But our offense wasn't great because
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: basically he wouldn't let Aaron, you know, actually change the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: right play and do these certain things. But when it
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: comes to tossing the rock, man, I don't I don't
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: think live I've ever seen anybody throw the ball like
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: he does ever. Just his just everything that he doesn't.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's like our work, Like the way
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: that comes out of his wrists and the way he
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: flips it. It's just stupid. I Like, we're doing like drills,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: like like resilent drills. No, no, no, like two minutes and
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: we'd have like five seconds left. He moving on like
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: the logo, and this dude would just scramble around a
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: little bit. He'd be looking over here and he would
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: throw the ball to the right and not looking at
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: the receiver one on one on the to do that
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: like it's just and the ball was just sling right
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: to him. It's just crazy. I mean his arm, his arm,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah, his arm by part the best service.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't want to just take
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: credit for that. You know, he'll probably call, He'll probably
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: claim is his junior college out out in California, but
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: bears guy, you know, University of California.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: But you too. Who else right now is is you know,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: at the top of the game like you guys are,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: somebody would.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Say, like, you know, there's an NC championship game coming up,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: and you know, I think Detroit Lions are doing really
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: really well, coached really well by just a myriad of
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: great coaches. But you would say the face of that
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: would be a Colbert, you know, good old Jared Goff,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the last Yeah yeah, the last first rounder to be
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: drafted out of the University of California, Berkeley, number one. Yeah.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm man. I'm so happy for him. Man,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I'm so happy for him, him and and the head
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: coach that whole city deserves it.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Man, did you play with Dan? You didn't play?
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: No, Come on, bro, come on, I'll saying no, but no, no,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Dan was almost my coach because, uh, the year right
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: before I got traded. They had fired my tight end
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: coach and they brought him in, so I was supposed
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: to be talking to him and then I got traded.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: So yeah, obvious, Seattle.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: You sue the NFL? Who do who? Do you know?
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Sues the NFL and then sort of wins, like didn't
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: went to you like you wanted to be paid rivice money,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: but you know, suit him because you were out in
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the slot like seventy percent of the time versus what
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: your tight end situation was. But sort of wins and
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: then you know, becomes the highest paid tight end, resets
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the whole market the first t M tight end.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I reseaid it twice. But what was interesting. What was
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: interesting was, I mean none of that should ever really happened,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like they never even offered
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: me a contract to start with. You know, they said that.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: My agent told me, Hey, they're going.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: To prate it.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: No now now now you're welcome. You're welcome. Now. They
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: pay guys who deserve it. Early right back then, they
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: were playing harble, so you know, like guys, you know,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: guys would basically be franchise school pre agency or they
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: would play horrible or you have to sign something that
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: wasn't really where your market was. But you know, basically
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: they said, well, the franchise SAG is so cheap that
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: we're not going to offer you like a contract. We're
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: going to franchise you twice that you'd be thirty, we'll
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: get rid of you. Right when they said that, I
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: was like, all right, Like there's no way that's happening,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: especially well, especially the way I played. The way I played,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I was bound to get hurt. Like it wasn't it
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: wasn't a chance of if it was win and how
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: bad because you know, that was the old school over
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the middle. All we ran was basically all go, I'll
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: go special, and I was getting tattooed across the middle,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: so you know, I mean I had to find guarantee money, so.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I had to and you got it though you be,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: you being over Seattle for for extended period of time
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and then now Pete Carroll, you know, retiring, did that
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: have any impact on you? Like what was what was
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's legacy?
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Like man, I had a special relationship with Pete obviously
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: they were a big part of that trade. Uh P
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: was phenomenal with me as far as like letting me
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: fly into work. You know, he wasn't tripping about the
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: planes and the cars and all the extracurricular stuff.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: When you say, when you say flying the work, what
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you're talking about?
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Oh so uh So, my first week on a job,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: John Northstrom, who used to own the team, he sold
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: it to Paul Allen, but he was still very close
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: because you know, his friend owned it so and so
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: he used to come into work all the time. So
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: he so he comes in. He's like, Hey, my name
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: is John Northstom. I's still on the team. I heard
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: you're a pilot and I was like yeah. He's like
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: you do you have your your seat plane license? I
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: said no, but I've been I've been thinking about getting that.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Jack Brown. He's like, oh, I flew in. If you
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: want to go out and see my seaplane. I was
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: like yeah. So we walk out to the dock and
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: literally right on the bottom of Lake Washington. He had
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: this thing called a beaver On Anthips, which is like
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: this old school warplane that Canada was built in Canada
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: a bunch and went to Vietnam. And so we got
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: this thing and we went flying over the city Man
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: and a week later I went and got my seaplane license,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: and then a couple months later I bought one and
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: restored it. So I bought one that fought in Vietnam,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: and so I had to fully rebuild. So the next
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: year when the plane was ready, like three times a week,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I used to fly into work. So I lived at
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: the top of Lake Washington. It's like a forty five
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: minute drive. It was kind of far, but it was
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: a five minute flight. So I used to just take
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: off sometime I would like live stream it and then
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I would just land maybe five minutes and I get
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: out tied up, and you go to the go to practice.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: It was nice, it was.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: And then like connected to the facility and connected like
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the back of the facility or like.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah, like like where like.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: You fly from the crib. So you drive to your
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: plane from your house, which is a couple of minutes,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: and then you fly down.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I literally fly down the lake literally five
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: minutes I land. It's like you have to talk to
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: one of the towers at the written the well's there's
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: a little one down there. There's a little one that
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: they make I think one of the one of the
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: boatings they make down there. And you just basically coast in.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: You get on the radio. Then I just literally pull
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: up to the dock. I jump out tied to the
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: little floating duck and like I have my little like
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: parking space number like Jimmy Graham's Yeah, and then you
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: like go through and that connects right to the players
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: parking lot. And so you just walked up. So people
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: were like, like, coaches will watch me fly and lie in. Yeah,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: it was kind of weird.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Jimmy eighty eight, you don't see come on.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: But it was also cool because that's that's when I
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: started doing the wounded warrior stuff. So we used to
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: bring in, uh sometimes on either Monday or Tuesday, we'd
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: bring in a wounded warrior and we give him like
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: a full tour the facility. We gear him down with ek,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: we'd give him a jersey, and then I would take
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: them on the dock and I would fly them and
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I would actually teach them how to fly. So we'd
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: be over like Washington, I'd be there woinded warrior flying
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: and then we go back, I drop them off and
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: go home. I mean it was it was a pretty
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: cool experience for sure.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: So so he didn't come down on you, like the
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Cowboys came down on our dog. Brandon Cooks be Cooks. Hey,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: you know with Dak and Mike.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was like you didn't do that.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: We didn't even hear, but like you doing that was like,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: hey man, you guys. You know you guys flew before
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I got you didn't take you on a plane.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well the Saints when I was young, tried some
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: of that. That's that's why I was pretty quiet, Like
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't have Instagram, so like way later than most people.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: And one of it because I was, you know, I'm
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: kind of private, but I was definitely being private about
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: the flying thing because I knew it was going to
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: be an issue. So basically I had had like four licenses,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: four or five licenses by the time they found out,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: and I already owned two planes. So because they were like, hey,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: we want like you can't be in anything that isn't
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: a jet that doesn't have two engines or a co pilot,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, I already got an airbatic plane, bro,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: So that's not happening. And that's it. That was really
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: the end of it, you know what I mean. I
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: told them, like an airbat Clane, I'll wear a parachute,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: but that's about it. I mean. And then now you
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: know I'm a commercial multi single. You know, I've got
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: everything now to where I'm beyond proficient and basically everything
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: that fly or anything. And but I've taken a lot
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: of teammates. I mean, the.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Coolest flight moment you say, I mean, I'm gonnay, I'm
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: gonna say Blue Angels when I saw what I was like, Yeah,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: flew with the Blue Angels like there.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I would say. Last year in June. So I'm the
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: honorary commander of the home Homestead Air Force Base down
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: here in Miami, which is also the home to our
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: world renown macOS, which is our F sixteen fighter squadron.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: They've been deployed in various things over many years. Right now,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: some of them are working as presidential detail up in Washington.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Canceled.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's you could look up. You could
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: look all that up online. But we so so in
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: June they ended up having a D Model S sixteen.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: So I got to fly with one of my good
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: friends from the macOS and it was incredible. You know,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: the day or the week before I had to go
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: through all the like survival stuff and like in case
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: you get in the water, and all the cockpit stuff
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: and obviously it had a full live ejection seat and
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: all this, you know, the oxygen system. But you know,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: to be able to take that down south we're right
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: over the keys Key westwork kind of out out over
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the water. We had between the ground and sixty thousand
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: feet and man sixty sixty thousand. Yeah, and to be
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: able oh yeah in work, oh yeah, it's insane. And
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: to be able to go that fast, you know, do
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: the various things that we did, and the flybys that
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: we did was just magical. Man, it was everything that
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I was Sue.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Perspective, Like a commercial flight. You get on you know,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Delta Southwest, United fly you're going with ten thousand be
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: near are you in that eye?
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're between the thirties, so you're thirty to thirty
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: five thousand. Those are mostly where those fly. All the
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: bigger jets, like all the private jets still fly like
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: higher forties and then in the fifties, but you're on
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: the sixties. Yeah, well we're well, they had a block
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: out that amount of space for all the maneuvers that
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: we're doing and so we would have enough to be
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: able to climb and do some of these awesome, interesting
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: military maneuvers. That that was really cool. That's crazy, really cool.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: All Right, So now I almost say football is out
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the way, but it's sort of it's only a side, right,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: it's only a side. You're not saying full retirement, but
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you possibly could come back anyway. So if this is retirement.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: During the season you talked about rowing across the world
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: or whatever the hell that was. Are you still talking
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: about trying to sail across the world or continent to continent? No,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: is that a thing?
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, So there's been an update or the most recent update,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: and we're all in on this thing now. So apparently
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: someone had read that I was trying to sail around
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: the world, and so they ended up reaching out and
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: asked me if I would think about trying to break
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: a world record. And but knowls to me earlier last
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: year one of my very close friends, he's been a
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: seal for twenty three years. He just retired. He's working
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: private equity now. And I told him at a pub
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: at his graduation because he also got his NBA from Cambridge.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I told him, hey, because he've been asked me to
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: do this for eight years and I said, Okay, we're
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: getting a little banged up. And I said, he's like,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: you're the only person that will do this with me,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: So will you do what? I think it'd be incredible
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: experience for us, both very challenging and great opportunity. So
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: the person that reached out to us was on the
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: national the US National Open ocean rowing team, And so
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: now we are. We have a meeting in two weeks altogether,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: and all of this is all the beginning stages of
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: what we're going to do and attempt. But we're going
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: to attempt in twenty twenty five to set a world
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: record by rowing across an ocean with a four person team.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: And it's a four person mixed team, so.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Mixed team being men and women.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was going to be that, but now there's
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: that we're actually taking one of the shorter routes to
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: start with, and then the next we're probably gonna race.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: So the first route that we just decided basically a
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: week ago, and our first training camp is gonna be
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: in two weeks because one it's gonna be hilarious because
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: my boy rode in college. The other guy who was
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: actually married to to to the girl we're doing it with. Uh,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: well she's got a gold medal for the open ocean
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: rowing and the guy is actually two lanes rowing coach.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: So it's so yeah, yeah, no, no, So I'm gonna be
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: back in New Orleans and we're gonna meet about where
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: some of these charitable contributions are going to go to,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: which are probably going to be young kids in the
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: New Orleans area to expose them to certain things. But
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: we're all going to it looks like attempt to row
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: across the Arctic Ocean and that's gonna be twenty five
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Now you know, I'm a Miami boy.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: You know how cold this?
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's gonna be in the summer. It's like
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: twenty four hour day life. But obviously it's very dangerous.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: And then after that we plan to possibly roll across
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: the Pacific Ocean. Now that's that's all of these things
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: are very dangerous obviously, and we're gonna have to get
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of certifications. Yeah, but that's what's next for me. Man,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: is how long?
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Bro like just guesstimate, like how long would that take
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: across an ocean?
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, well, it just depends on which ocean you
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: cross and at what time of year, but most likely
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: if we do it, if we do one of these
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: open ocean races, We're most likely going to do the Pacific,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: which it would be from California to Hawaii, and that
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: can take anywhere between thirty to forty some days. And
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: the very interesting about this is I'm going to film
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of this and most likely make a document
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: out of it.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: One, Jimmy, Jimmy, can we just talk about this.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: One? You have? Everybody else knows how to row, but
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: I've never rowed before. So that's where this is so interesting.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Is it's gonna be comical because obviously I'm very competitive.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: My boy, he's beyond competitive, so it to just be
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: us basically talking to uh, you know, also me trying
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: to learn how to row, you know. I mean, I've
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: never sustained rowing, I've never rowed in the open ocean.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I've never been on a rowboat. All of these things
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: are factors. But where I think this works in my
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: favor is one, we're chasing world records and we're and
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: we're doing it for a great cause. But two, if
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I can row across, if I can row across an ocean.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Sailing a big yacht is going to be easy. So
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: that's if.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: That's your motivation.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like practice for the for the solo sailing.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: And that's that's kind of the way I see it.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: And and you know, it just really gives me something
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: to look forward to, and you know something that athletically,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I can push myself in a new direction, you know,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: and I don't have to take hits anymore. I can
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: just sit there and just get to work.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: What the bro Me and Mark was like, you know
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: we do like these family vacation you know, vacations whatever.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: We were in the Caribbean on this yacht, and you
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: know how they like dock it, like you know whatever
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: that is they docate let's call it three four hundred
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: yards out from the beach right depending on where it's at.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Me and him were like, hey man, you think you
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: could make the other side. So we swam to the
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: to the beach and we're like dog ass tired after
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: a ten minutes swim. You're trying to row. You're trying
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: to row for thirty to forty days technically.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, yeah, well, like what's also interesting about it
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: is it pushes you in every way mentally physically. You
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: know we are going to only get two hour breaks,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: so you know, basically you're off for two hours, and
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I think that means you don't get another time off.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: So you row for six and you're off another two
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: and so over acular time, I think you get like
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: six hours of sleep a day, maybe five. But within
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: your two hours of responsibilities, you have to clean, obviously,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: do some It depends on what your job is as
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: far as tracking goes moving. Obviously, you got to get
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: some sleep during that period. So not only is it
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: challenging like that, but it's also you're dealing with a
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: lot of sleep deprivation. You're dealing with if you're doing
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: the Pacific, you're dealing with storms obviously and being on
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: a rowboat at night. So that's why I believe this
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: is just prepare me for the sailing. I'll be able
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: to use what I've learned in sailing and flying as
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: far as weather and tracking to go to this rowing thing.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: But but but sailing you're like sort of you're by
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: yourself on this right, So really.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: It's just you tracking you Yes, yeah.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Rowing it's literally like a team. And as much as
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I love my teammates. I couldn't imagine being like me
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: and you know Carl and Peyton Turner and Malcolm Roach
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: for thirty straight days. Yeah yeah, well we're not catching
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: sleep like that. Somebody, somebody's getting thrown off the rowboat.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Somebody, We'll see. This is see, this is some of
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: the most challenging parts of it is obviously the team
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: personalities matter. You know, we're gonna do a bunch of
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: team building activities just to make sure we're all the
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: right people to be on the boat. But but then,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: but then, also you get super close to each other
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: obviously because there's no bathroom on this boat. There's just
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: gonna be. There's just gonna be a carbon pipper bucket.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: So you know, well I didn't even think about that.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one second, I gotta take a piss rowing
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I'm going wait, somebody's getting missed on I'm calling it now.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Oh for sure. Well, I mean, like imagine rough seas,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: big storm. Uh you know, it's it's this is gonna
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: be the hardest thing I've ever signed up for, to
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: be the hardest thing I've ever done, and it will
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: be the most challenging. But I believe that, you know,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: obviously after I get done with this, and obviously being
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: able to do this with uh, you know, one of
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: my best friends, and to share this experience with him,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: and and to obviously do it for a cause I
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: think there's nothing better I could sign up for immediately
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: right after a football stunt.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Sign me up man.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Fact.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I mean when you say what's next, most people thinking,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: you know, are like the pe guys. They're like private
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: equity or like, oh, I'm gonna start flipping houses. Oh
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into you know whatever. That next phase
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: is start a podcast boom, And here you are like, yeah,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go thirty forty days in the Arctic.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Well, well, you know obviously with businessman, I'm you know,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: I've been always acting, you know, I don't think people.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but that's not something you picked up. That's
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: something that's you know, you've been on.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So I'm I'm obviously gonna keep doing that
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: and scaling all of the things that I'm that I'm
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: involved with all.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just be I'll be waiting for my phone call.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: It won't come, but it's okay. I know eficially he's
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: gonna call.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: He will, so you and you.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Between between you and John Wilma, I don't know who
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: keeps more secrets from me. I'll be like bro, just
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: I have liquid.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I've got some big things down on Popeline. Man,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: I'll definitely keep you to day.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Before I get you out of here. Man, you've been
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: a tight end who's played at such at the highest level,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: at being all pro you know, pro bowler been you know,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: You've done so many miraculous things, seen so many playoffs.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Who do you got winning this year? We're getting down,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: We're getting down to the to the to the f
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: final final.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: That's it's a hard one because there's there's there's there's
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: people I would love to win.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Would there's four teams left? I hear you.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, man, I would love to see Baltimore doing
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean I would love to see you
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: know just I think personally Lamar, I feel like he's
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: gotten so much black and so many people just don't
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: believe in him and believe in the way that he plays.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: But I think he the way he's been playing, especially
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: as of late, it's just special. And I think he's
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: done a lot to change the game and continue to
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: evolve the game. But you know it, how like to me?
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: How believe it will be a Baltimore versus Line super Bowl,
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: which is something that no one would have ever predicted,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: no doubt ever ever.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Ticket sales been going crazy in Detroit. I don't know
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: if you say that, like the highest retail value tickets
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: to do that.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: It's crazy crazy, I mean because I played against the
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Lions over the last however long and those things were
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: free and uh, but but not anymore. Man. It's it's
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: it's just unbelievable what what dance men will do out there,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: you know, obviously turning that place around to changing the culture,
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: changing the environment, and just having people understand how poortant
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: winning is, and you know, just kind of turning the
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: team into the same exact blue collar, hard gritty type
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: of community.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Dan Help said, we're gonna crawl and if we need
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: to take bite me cats off.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly years later, they lie people. People thought it
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: was crazy he said it, but he wouldn't line. He
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: wouldn't lie because that's what they're doing for sure.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Looking at him, like, what do you think about Nah,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: he's from a different error. He believes in doing all
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: with that same he actually played the game for ten years.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Like if there's coaches that can't say that he and
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: he meant it, and the team bought in, and he
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: would go get guys like you know, Chauncey Gardner Johnson.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: You know, he would you know, he drafted a guy
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: like Aiden Hutchinson playing lights out, just like a nitty
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: gritty worker. You know, he brought it. Aaron glenn Is
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: ah A G was a decordinator for was it uh
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: dB coach for US and now DC over at Detroit. Man,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: great dude, but he has that old school mentality. They
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: played and they're like when he said something like, no,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: that's probably gonna work.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: No, he's seen that, and you know, I mean, I
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: think there's something to be said about that. You know,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: it's it's uh, you know, uh, you know, bringing bringing
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: the NFL back to a little bit of some of
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: that old school stuff. You know, I mean, it's it's uh,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: you know, we got introduced to it as young players.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: We knew on a crazy level. You know, my my
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: rookie year was the last.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Jeremy Shockey has your O G like and he was
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: the last of the rock stars that you were like, man,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: legends about him.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, first it was two a days still too
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Patta practice of the day training camps in New Orleans
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: with Sean Payton. I'll let you know what time it is.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: It was absolute hell. I was calling home like I
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: don't know if I could do this. I mean I was,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: I mean because Shocky. I mean, first off, being his
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: rookie was like iconic almost because they just won a
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: super Bowl. He was the rock star. He he was,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: he was a rock star. I mean everybody wanted to
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: be around him. I remember just leaving a bar and
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: running down the street because people are chasing us down
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: the street like like rock stars, and it was it
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: was so cool to experience. But also SHOCKI is hilarious
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: and like I remember one morning he was like he
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: was like, hey, big dog guy, Yes, seems like my
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: backsim be going out today. But I was like, what, bro,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: really good, Bro, We're in stretch. This dude's back tightened
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: up just like he said. And it was like the
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: first BROT is too. So I had to go with
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: the ones, twos, and threes. First time I was in
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: the one huddle like just didn't know what he was
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: talking about. And then we came back for that like
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: two or three o'clock practice and the Debta heat another
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: two hour practice, all me absolutely brutal, come get this work.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Shaki, who's in your tight End Rushmore? If
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: there was to be a tight End Rushmore, my Titan Rushmore,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: your tight End Rushmore.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: As far as like for my career or like complete.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Like complete, however however you want to take that.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going to say on who it influenced
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: my career the most, as far as like the people
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: had true influence on my career. Obviously Jimmie Shockey, you know,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: I mean I was just rookie, and then it would
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: I would definitely say Ben Watson. Ben Watson was a
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: big part of that, you know, just kind of how
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: he was, you know, how kind of his approach to
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: the game and and just how he operated. And then
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: I was, you know, obviously blessed enough to play with
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Mercedes Lewis. You know, he's he's his hands like it's
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: it's insane what he's doing. And you know, I don't
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: think he gets even enough credit for it. It's like
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: when years it was eighteen or.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Something disgusting, I don't know.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Something crazy crazy and he's in the I mean he's
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: in the trenches.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: You know, he's putting hands on them. He's not really
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: a receiver tight end the more east.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: No, No, and uh, it's I mean it's just like
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: unbelievable to see. I mean truly truly unbelievable to see. Man.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: You know, those are the guys that kind of had
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: the biggest influence on my career. Obviously, obviously Dave Thomas
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: A lot people know who he is, but he's the
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: one who actually taught me.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: The like mental University of Texas.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, won a national championship, won a super Bowl, but
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: he's the one who taught me the mental aspect of
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: the game as far as understanding coverage, understanding all these things.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: And then Shaky taught me the attitude. You know. I
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: remember something happened there was like a drop in practice,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: and Shaky ran up to me and he said some
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: other words I'm not gonna say the podcast, but he
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: basically boiled it down to you're from the you and
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: we don't walk around and do like that. He said,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: we hold ourselves to a higher standard. And from that
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: day on, yes, sir, oh yeah, no, no, I just cared
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I carried myself like I was untouchable and
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: and sure enough I think it translated to the field.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, okay, we'll take that. I appreciate you tapping in.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: You knows, mister pro bowler, mister allpro uh, mister sixty
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: thousand freaking feet in the air, flying planes, helicopters now
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: wanting to roll across the ocean's nautical miles being added
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: on to the experiences. I appreciate you so much, not
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: only for the tight end that you are, but just
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: like the overall phenomenal person that you are and everything
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: that you know that you've done over your career does
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: it will probably never get overlooked because you're a Saints
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. You know, your your character has spoken
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: so much. Ba lumes By even coming back and if
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: this is it finishing your career with the Saints, you
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: know it's always black and gold forever. But just it's
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: I'm a Jimmy Graham fan, you know. Just I'm a
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: big Jimmy g guy. And it's not Garoppolo, it's Jimmy Graham.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: It's him, him, Jimmy Graham. If you will, you know so,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you tapping out, Tapping in with me Off
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: the Edge podcast, my guy, Jimmy Graham. I appreciate him
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: for everything that he's done. I can't I can't help
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: but get excited for him to finish up his you know,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: if that's the end of his career, a hell of
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: a career. You know, will always be a Saints Hall
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: of Famer for all those thousand yard seasons that he
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: put together, all those Pro Bowls, all pros. Him and
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Drew Brees clearly the most tight end quarterback duo to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: ever really be together until this new wave. You know,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: you alluded to the Niners, which was George Kittle of
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: course as a tight end, and you know he's had
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: a myriad so you can't say he the duo there,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: but Pat Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. You know, That's what
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: it was like watching Drew Brees and Jimmy Graham. It
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: was just like there's nothing stopping them. You know, where
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: the ball going, you can't stop it. It's I mean,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: it was a beauty. It was a thing of beauty
• 1:01:11
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• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:21
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• 1:01:24
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• 1:01:35
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• 1:01:42
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