Latest / Financial Survival Network / Time for You to Choose Greatness -- Christina Curtis #5821
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- 0:00Think of like athletes. They create routines that maximize speed and agility and strength.
- 0:05And as business people especially, I'm an entrepreneur and a working parents and
- 0:11a leader, all three of those things. I need a routine every day
- 0:15that's going to unlock my highest quality thinking. And here's where we mess up.
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- 0:43ever, and welcome. You are listening to watching the Financial Survival Network.
- 0:52Well, I'm your host, Carrie Lets. You know, we're always looking
- 0:55for ways to help you become great, to help you raise elevate your game,
- 1:00to help you become the person that you should become. And a lot
- 1:04of the time it sounds like spiritualism and gobbledegook. But every now and then
- 1:10somebody comes along and writes a book that's actually based on fact and experience,
- 1:15proving to you that you two can do it. And that person today is
- 1:19Christina Curtis Christina. It is great to have you on the show. Your
- 1:25book Choosing Greatness, an evidence based approach to achieving exceptional outcomes. And hey,
- 1:34so success is no accident. In other words, right, success is
- 1:38no accident. There's a lot of science around how to actually achieve the level
- 1:42of success you want personally, professionally from a wealth and well being standpoint,
- 1:46and that's what we talk about in the book. All right, so what
- 1:49are the three most important factors in judging whether somebody will eventually become a success
- 1:53or not? Hm, that's an interesting question, you know. The first
- 1:57thing is whether they can get comfortable being uncomfortable. I think it's really important
- 2:01carry because success, I mean what a success means. It's different for each
- 2:07person, but regardless, it is something that they have not yet attained.
- 2:10It is out in the future somewhere where they have to create a tension between
- 2:14where they are now and where they want to go and get there and guess
- 2:17what it means choosing new patterns of behavior, new thoughts, new actions,
- 2:21new approaches, and when you try something new, the brain's response is often
- 2:25to say, hey, hold the phone, I don't want to do anything
- 2:29new. I've been doing this for as long as I can remember. It's
- 2:30working just mine, thank you very much. The brain is an economical organ
- 2:35It does not want to burn mental calories. It doesn't need to, so
- 2:38anytime you try change, you get discomfort. I mean, I think of
- 2:42it this way. If you're on a treadmill and you hit moment three.
- 2:46For me, maybe for other people it's later, but you hit moment three
- 2:49and you're like, I don't really want to be doing this anymore. Your
- 2:51brain will rationalize why you can slow down, get off, or do other
- 2:54things because it doesn't want to. It doesn't want to grow, it doesn't
- 2:58want to push through to that next layer. So getting comfortable with being uncomfortable
- 3:04is critically important. And the people I work with who are at the tightens
- 3:07of their industry, at the top of their game, they are every year
- 3:12building up a higher and higher tolerance to manage discomfort, which means they can
- 3:15scale, which means they can grow, which means they can take on things
- 3:20they're not capable of achieving yet. But they're going to lean in and figure
- 3:23out how and build the teams that will get them there. I think that's
- 3:27really important. That's the first one does that resonate when you carry absolutely And
- 3:32I once read that successful leaders are able to manage ambiguity, meaning that there's
- 3:42two conflicting thoughts or events taking place, the average person will just throw up
- 3:47their hands and they'll just choose one, but that a leader can keep those
- 3:53two conflicting thoughts in their mind and move ahead in spite of it, and
- 3:58actually a chain results. And maybe both these thoughts that appear to be conflicting
- 4:04really aren't. They might fit together. But I don't know what your thoughts
- 4:09are about that. It's a little out there, But what do you know?
- 4:12It's not out there, it's right down the middle, it's right on
- 4:14the fairway. If you think about the second one, which is objectivity in
- 4:17a balanced approach, it means don't just react, don't just react. We
- 4:21actually operate on autopilot forty two percent of the day, Kerrie. So we
- 4:26wake up and we do what we've done before again to conserve mental energy and
- 4:30stay safe. We've already done it. We're safe now, So I guess
- 4:32if I repeated, it's all good. The challenge is we become very binary
- 4:38in our thinking. Should I do this or that? Should I choose this
- 4:41or that should I engage this way or that way? And the reality is
- 4:44between one answer and another, there's whole rainbow of options that could also be
- 4:48true. And cognitively we tend like I say to you, did you like
- 4:54the movie Barrett Forrest Gump? You may say yes or no, very binary.
- 4:59It's quick, you don't enough to think about the answer. But if
- 5:01I said, what was your favorite part of the movie and why, You've
- 5:04got to slow down and think. It's not yes or no answer. And
- 5:08so you have to be balanced and objective to slow down and say, based
- 5:12on this vantage point, based on this person asking what do I want to
- 5:15share? That's breaking a pattern. That's breaking a pattern and causing you to
- 5:19open a new part of your brain that's focused on critical thinking. And the
- 5:23executives who I work with, who are exceptionally strong leaders and who are have
- 5:29very padded wallets, who evade a lot of money, are not just reacting,
- 5:32they're responding. So they're really pausing. They're elbowing their way in that
- 5:36space between an event and their reaction to it to say, what's my long
- 5:42term goal here? And how do I need how do I need to show
- 5:46up degenerate that versus just here's how I'm going to react. Here's the emotion
- 5:49that shows up in my body, so I'm going to roll with that.
- 5:54I think responding very methodically by being balanced, no high, ike's, no
- 6:00no lows, to say here's what I need to do in order to move
- 6:03us forward is really important. So I completely agree ambiguity. You often move
- 6:09to how do I create certainty fast? And if you slow down, you'll
- 6:14realize, I'm certainty is not so bad if we could just find our best
- 6:17next step and start exploring other options and learn and learn. So cognitive dissonance
- 6:25that will set in oftentimes, especially when you're trying to do something new,
- 6:30the average person just shuts down and goes to a a auto response. Like
- 6:36you mentioned, They're just a default response without looking ahead critically. So leader's
- 6:44got to measure, got to learn to manage cognitive dissonance in a positive way
- 6:50well, and be aware of what your patterns are. One of the greatest
- 6:54things that we do when it comes to executive coaching is pausing to say what
- 6:57patterns in your day are helping you in which ones are roting your results and
- 7:00your relationships, which I'm even thinking about it. I'll use a really easy
- 7:04example, which is food. Right. If I'm walking my airport, I
- 7:08travel a time for work and I see a bag of salt and vinegar chips,
- 7:12it doesn't matter if it's nine am or midnight. I'm like, and
- 7:15I'm just going to stop and buy that bag of chips. And if my
- 7:17goal is to get fit this year, that choice is not in alignment with
- 7:21what I want to create. But I have such a pull it's automatic.
- 7:25I don't even think about it. Frankly, sometimes I don't even enjoy the
- 7:28brand of chip. I just get it. So that's an example of an
- 7:30automatic pattern. If I pass the chip stand, I immediately feel discomfort.
- 7:35Oh would have been good, would have been great to have it. So
- 7:39you feel this pull back to your regular behavioral patterns, and that's where cognitive
- 7:43dissonance comes in. I can rationalize my way at a giving up on anything.
- 7:46I can rationalize my way on going back to the way I've always done
- 7:50it in a heartbeat. But if you just recognize that's just a neurological pattern,
- 7:55a risk barometer saying, and let's just stick to what's safe. Let's
- 7:59stick to what's comfortable, you can say I don't want to choose at this
- 8:01time, hold the discomfort and choose change anyway. Right, So the people
- 8:07you talk to do they do meditation, relaxation, dance their main ways of
- 8:18a coping with stress, and be keeping their thought waves open if you will,
- 8:24yeah, well totally in addition to getting comfortable, being uncomfortable, and
- 8:28really responding versus reacting. The third point around success is setting a regiment up
- 8:33that brings out your best think of like athletes, they create routines that maximize
- 8:37speed and agility and strength, and as business people especially, I'm an entrepreneur
- 8:45and a working parents and a leader, all three of those things. I
- 8:48need a routine every day that's going to unlock my highest quality thinking. And
- 8:54here's where we mess up. We tend to think the more I pack into
- 8:56my calendar, the more productive and efficient I'm going to be. The problem
- 9:00is what I've really learned again from people who are bringing in the billions,
- 9:05not just the millions, is you need space or your body and your brain
- 9:11have a micro break so it can recharge. Because we actually only have about
- 9:13two hundred and forty minutes of high octane thinking in a day that's available to
- 9:18us. So if you just run from one meeting to one meeting to one
- 9:20meeting, come home and do one shore to the next shore, to the
- 9:22next shore, you are moving yourself back into these habitual patterns that come barreling
- 9:28down your well holed neural pathways rather than creating space. And what does that
- 9:33look like It maybe meditation. I've got a timer on my desk and I
- 9:37do two minute breaks three times a day with just sitting still and breathing,
- 9:43and it allows me to move from any risk of distress back into healthy stress.
- 9:48I work with a lot of executives who will move their body rather than
- 9:52sit still, and so they may walk one block and just listen to music,
- 9:56not be on a call, not multitask, but just walk one block.
- 10:00The goal is to get away from hyper focused intensity a couple times a
- 10:05day and creating a regimen that will bring that forwards so you can recharge,
- 10:09renew and be running as fast at five o'clock as you were at eight am.
- 10:13Right, So that concept that you're not biring on all cylinders throughout the
- 10:20day. They're ups and downs. So I mean it's a little off the
- 10:24beaten path here, but the stuff that they call food nowadays really doesn't,
- 10:31you know, like the junk food you're referred to, yea linegar, chips
- 10:35or whatever. Yeah, they're all processed foods. They really don't optimize your
- 10:41performance. Have you found that high ranking executives have a certain nutritional program that
- 10:48also aids their higher thought program? I do. And that's part of the
- 10:52regiment, right, that's their weekly How am I What am I putting into
- 10:56my body that will allow my brain to come up with high quality insights?
- 11:00And because that's your greatest competitive advantage in today's economy, how can I have
- 11:03a differential thought? How can I create the environment where those ideas come to
- 11:07life? What we do know is junk food actually decreases your productivity every day
- 11:13by twenty percent. By twenty percent. I mean, think about that.
- 11:16If I woke up and I'm like, I'm going to work hard today,
- 11:18but I'll give up twenty percent just so I can have that bag of chips.
- 11:22If someone framed it that way to me and be like, I'm good,
- 11:24I want to skip the chips. But it's really interesting. If you
- 11:28eat healthy food, your brain obviously is clearer, it's sharper, it operates
- 11:33more effectively. And so absolutely, the way that you can replan your week
- 11:39around nutrition and just exercise, even if it's just walking, will have a
- 11:43direct correlation to your performance at work. That is not me saying it.
- 11:48That is an avalanche full of research that demonstrates the brain and the body are
- 11:54directly connected. Your brain is your asset for your career. Let's set up
- 11:56an environment each week so it can perfect form, it can shine. And
- 12:01I didn't get to exercise, but you brought it up. So for me,
- 12:05exercise been a part of my life for the past forty plus years on
- 12:11with a few minor exceptions, you know, life transformations where you just kind
- 12:16of get out of the habit. But now at this point, I'll never
- 12:20stop doing it till they bury me. But I assume that most of these
- 12:26high power executives all have an exercise regiment, if not to strengthen their bodies
- 12:31and their minds, to at least keep them at their current optimal level.
- 12:37Yeah, and part of the exercise element is not just so that you can
- 12:41look good, right. I think that's the eighties and nineties mentality of we're
- 12:48in the bathing suits on the beach and I just have a vision of the
- 12:50eighties that popped in my head for some reason. Now we know there's healthy
- 12:56stress, which we call you stress. There's a level of stress that actually
- 13:00it gets you too sharper thinking. And if you're not moving your body and
- 13:03moving that stress around, it turns into distress. It gets it's a feeling
- 13:07of overwhelmed people talk about. And once you are in distress, you're connon
- 13:13of functioning. Your ability to think great thoughts decreases. So the prefrontal cortex
- 13:18where critical thinking happens, actually turns down and other parts of your brain turn
- 13:22on because you've moved into a state of distress. It is now self protection
- 13:26over goal directed behavior. So you need exercise, if only if it's a
- 13:30walk around the block they say for eleven minutes, to allow you to not
- 13:33only improve your cardiovascular help and decrease your risk of stroke, but also to
- 13:39be your best at work. And I mean that by when you use the
- 13:43word success, to be successful in results in relationship. We have to let
- 13:46go of this belief that the brain and body are not connected. They are
- 13:50one and the same. They are one and the same. And I will
- 13:54tell you I did not take care of my body in my thirties, and
- 13:58I sprinted really fast and hard at work, and I had long term implications
- 14:03and I feel really slow down my career because what I thought was the top
- 14:07of my game. When I was bringing in six figures, I was like,
- 14:11this is it, this is the top. Keeps printing. And when
- 14:13I finally learned how to create a regiment that allowed me to bring out my
- 14:16best I realized, oh, that's nowhere near the top. I've got a
- 14:20lot more horsepower. I've just been draining it ineffectively every day. That was
- 14:24a real wake up call for me. So there's some trends like in Silicon
- 14:28Valley. Some are a little disturbing, like micro dosing LSD to become where
- 14:35I'm not advocating by any stretch. I think you're messing with your body,
- 14:39your brain chemistry. Same. But one thing that of recent years that's come
- 14:45to light is fasting. And yeah, le have started a fasting regime in
- 14:50the past year, and I find that mental acuity, mental clarity, energy.
- 14:58You think, oh, you don't eat, you're going to wither,
- 15:01but actually the opposite's true, because your body shifts into fat burning load and
- 15:05your clarity, and your ability to focus goes way way up, and you're
- 15:11actually burn ten percent more energy when you're fasting than when you're not. So
- 15:16I don't know if you've had any experience with it, he's ever told you
- 15:20about it, but share your thoughts. Yeah, fasting and been a cash
- 15:26really in the past five years, I've seen an explosion around this way to
- 15:31make sure you're optimizing your mental acuty to your point, and also the way
- 15:35your body is physically responding. And it's not for everyone. Actually can have
- 15:39negative effects for some people depending on their body makeup, so it's worth talking
- 15:43to a doctor about it. However, there's another element to what you're talking
- 15:48about, which is priming your body for performance so that your brain is performing
- 15:54and it's best. That's your greatest competitive advantage, right, And one thing
- 15:56we don't think a lot about that's directly correlated this is confidence. When you
- 16:02don't feel good when you wake up and you feel sluggish because you had a
- 16:04glass two glasses of wine the night before, or you pushed through on a
- 16:08project and you went to bed at midnight and you didn't get it off sleep,
- 16:11or you're burning candle on both ends and just sprinting, sprinting, sprinting,
- 16:15and it feels like there's no and in sight. The other thing it
- 16:19gets hit is your confidence. And confidence is a skill, not a trait,
- 16:26which means you build it. You build it. You got to choose
- 16:29it every day and say I'm going to lean in and build this muscle.
- 16:32And when you're depleted and tired and feeling down, it spirals into a gosh,
- 16:37I don't know if I can actually do this. Gosh, this feels
- 16:40pretty big cash this weight. I'm not sure I really want to engage with
- 16:44this amount of weight at work or at home right now. And that impacts
- 16:48what you reach for and what you go for. So not only is a
- 16:51performance of mental acuity, but self doubt can get pretty loud when you're feeling
- 16:56burnt out. Confidence every effectively, or even if you're not feeling confidence.
- 17:02So you've got to fake it, right, Yeah, well you have to
- 17:04choose it. So the way I look at it is if I wake up
- 17:07and self doubt is ring really loudly, I've got this like low grade buzz
- 17:11anxiety that's with me in the more day. Either I can just allow that
- 17:15to happen, or I can meet it. And what I mean by that
- 17:18is there's accepting and believing that that's just you, and then there's realizing that's
- 17:22just a safety security mechanism. That's saying something is off. So I'm going
- 17:26to throw doubt here and slow you down. Because something is off, it's
- 17:32okay to recognize Itself doubt turns on anytime you're going to step outside of your
- 17:37comfort zone, anytime, because the brain's saying, hey, there's a risk
- 17:41here. There's social risk here, there's financial risk here, there's career risk
- 17:44here. Even if it's small, self doubt do doesn't calibrate. It's loud,
- 17:49and the more we allow that to run, the louder it gets.
- 17:52Versus there's fascinating research when they looked at the two thousand Sydney Olympics to say
- 17:57who are those that made metals and who didn't. And what they found was
- 18:02a common denominator in those who made metals or earned medals. I always say
- 18:06made metals, but they didn't go into a shop and make them. They
- 18:08earned the medal. Was how they engaged with self doubt, was how they
- 18:14engaged with their inner talk tracks. And they didn't give it the mic and
- 18:17say, have at it, rerun this day. I guess I don't know
- 18:19confidence. They don't have the ability to do that because it's too taxing.
- 18:23It causes you to slow down and play small. Instead, they engage and
- 18:26say thanks, I'm good, I've got it, I'm all good, here's
- 18:30what I need to adjust. Let's keep going. And that way, when
- 18:33something goes wrong, they're not immediately internalizing that something's wrong with them. Right.
- 18:38So what about the concept of visualizing success? Imagining success that's in a
- 18:47lot of these success gururus. Yeah, but there's some validity to it because
- 18:52athletes who've used visualization have excelled and have gotten as much, almost as much
- 18:59benefit as physically doing the act that they're visualizing. You know what's so cool
- 19:03about this one, which I talk about in the book Choosing Greatness, is
- 19:07when you visualize a future event playing out well or not, it is created.
- 19:14That visualization is created in the same part of the brain that stores previous
- 19:18memories. So what I'm saying is you are making a memory of something that
- 19:22hasn't even happened yet, which is really powerful because then when it comes to
- 19:27that moment, it's almost probable. It's more probable that it will play out
- 19:32that way because you've got a memory of it. You're like, I know
- 19:33how this goes. Oh, I know this situation. I know when this
- 19:37ends. It ends in a win versus. What we tend to do,
- 19:41because we're primed to look at risk, is say, oh my god,
- 19:45I got that speech in two weeks or that presentation. I'm going to flub
- 19:48it. The CEO is going to wonder what the heck I'm doing. My
- 19:52colleagues are going to think I'm not smart. I get more and more anxious,
- 19:56and then guess what happens when I get there, I'm breaking out out.
- 20:00And so making sure you are calm, balanced, objective, creating the
- 20:06regiment for your brain and your body to be showing up at its best is
- 20:08important. But so is visualizing what you want and leaning in confidently to go
- 20:15for it. All right, I think we'll leave it at that. Now
- 20:19you've made me want to go up and buy the book. I assume it's
- 20:25available in Amazon and where her fine books used to be sold. It sure
- 20:30is Barnes and Noble, you name it, Amazon, go for it.
- 20:33And it's called choosing greatness, an evidence based approach to achieving exceptional results.
- 20:37All right, and your website is Curtis Leadership dot com. I suggest everybody
- 20:44go there. You can of course obtain the book there as well. Questions
- 20:48for Christina and myself email address kl at Kerrylots dot com and we'll have a
- 20:55link to Christina's site on Financial Survival Network dot com. So just go there,
- 21:02click through and you'll be able to get the book. And while you're
- 21:04there, sign up for your free newsletter. Christuda been an absolute pleasure.
- 21:07Thanks so much for coming by. Thank you so much, have a good
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