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Crowder vs. Dr. Chad, A tale of two strategies and how both failed | Rantzerker 211 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Coming to you live from deep within. Now very snowy, radioactive wasteland suddenly
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  snowy, which is why we were having some technical difficulties completely outside of our
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  control prior to the start of the show. We are the survivors of the
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  Altright Keck Apocalypse, the few, the brave, the bitchy, once more
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  wading into battle against the lawyery hoards, the litigacious hordes, the just,
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  the defamatory hoards, the vexatious hordes. With rant Zurker number two eleven Crowder
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  versus Doctor Chad, A tale of two strategies and how both failed. I
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  am your host, Alison, and with me is Brian and Karen, the
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  ineffable Karen, and we are going to be discussing two cases that have been
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  in the news. The first is that of I hope I get this right,
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  Stuart Lucas Lauris, Yeah, Lucas Murray, who was basically defamed by
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  a bunch of women who I think he was in contact with through a da
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  dating site and apparently he incurred their displeasure for reasons that sound like are incredibly
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  petty, and they proceeded to make up stories about our allegedly makeup stories about
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  him on a Facebook group, spread rumors make his life more difficult, and
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  he decided to sue them for defamation. And I've been looking at the court
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  case and some of the latest proceedings, and yeah, it's very interesting.
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  I have thoughts on this case. So that's doctor Chad. I think one
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  of the things that happened was that he was maybe expressing interest in multiple women
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  at the same time. It's a little bit obscure, but we do have
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  a video of their own testimony. Like the women will not their testimony,
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  but they're a press release that they have and responsible for defamation, which we
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  can look at and give our very very aerodyite opinions on. And then also
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  also related well in terms of being about relationships we have, we're going to
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  be talking about Crowder's divorce because that's pretty much something that's been on everybody's lips
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  and we have our own opinions on it and what it means. And the
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  reason why I made this title is because essentially these two men pursued two very
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  different strategies to try to succeed with the ladies, Right, doctor Chad went
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  the strategy I'm suspecting from all of the hubbub and the smoke and what's going
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  on. He went the strategy of, you know, not being interested in
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  monogamy, maybe peak keeping about you know, however many side pieces the field.
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  Yeah, I mean I've seen a picture of him. He's good looking,
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  he's got a good job, he know, his doctor just summing as
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  wild oats. Maybe he didn't want to settle down with any of them,
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  maybe he didn't even want to do anything with any of them. And uh,
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  but unfortunately, despite not committing to a woman, he still got sort
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  of screwed by them, allegedly because together, because they were unhappy with him
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  not committing perhaps or not even being interested in them at all, and uh,
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  they decided to make his life a living hell. Yeah, I have
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  a story for you guys personally, Okay, Yeah, is it is?
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  It? Is it? Mike? Is it your husband? It is Mike?
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  And all I'm gonna say, whose day? Yeah, all I'm gonna
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  say is, if you're fucking two different women who live across the hall from
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  each other and who both were the ones who initiated the trying try lateral relationship,
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  let's say you made it. Yeah. Yeah, And you made it
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  clear that you were just not down for a relationship. You've just been through
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  a horrific breakup whatever. Right, but you know you really like ass okay,
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  and and you'd like to have something casual, and they're like, oh,
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  they even can convince you to have a threesome with them, right,
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  Okay if you knock on one of their doors and say, hey, would
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  you like some company, which is code for can I fuck you? And
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  she says no, I don't really feel like it tonight. Whatever you do,
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  do not go knock on the other woman's door across the hall and fuck
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  her instead. That that's gonna get you kicked out of the house and maybe
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  get maybe a threat. We have danced around the R word while the manager
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  of the co op was like deciding whether to a victim. Right, yeah,
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  yeah, that's just it is despicable behavior in this case. I don't
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  even think that he had sex with any of these women. Probably nothing.
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  You don't need to You don't need to have sex with a woman to make
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  her feel like she was raped. Alice in well, they didn't know,
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  they didn't let any any kind of rape. They just alive met harassment.
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  They feel like they were raped alas, and sometimes when a man doesn't have
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  sex with a woman, that's what makes it feel like she was raped.
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  Yeah, she was taken advantage of because he didn't have sex with her.
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  Yeah. I think that's more more along the lines of what I'm seeing with
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  this one. But that's one of the stories. Then we'll go through Crowder,
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  and the reason why I brought them both up is like two very different
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  strategies, playing the field, not settling down, not getting into legal entanglements.
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  Crowder apparently saving himself for the one so super monogamous super case strategy,
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  neither of which really ended. Well. Yeah, apparently he was a virgin
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  until marriage. I remember him being on a Fox News panel like when he
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  was very young with Amy Schumer and they were debating this very thing. He
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  was like he believed very strongly and saving himself for marriage. And Amy Schumer,
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  of course famous for being a slug. Oh yeah, and you know
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  they had a little back and forth and yeah, yeah, I mean,
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  and now they're both miserable. So yeah, the break is not there.
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  That's all I will say. If there is something broken, it's not there.
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  Well, I got two strategists, both of whom did not result in
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  positive, positive situation and I'm not even exactly sure what what okay, but
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  anyway, sorry, well I should do the things. So before we start,
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  I would like to start with did you want to start with Crowder or
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  with doctor whatever you want to do, It's fine for me. The Crowder
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  thing is everyone and are still doing this on Twitter now. Everyone is talking
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  about who is to blame and what makes who you know like a piece of
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  shit for this or that reason. But I think that there is a lesson
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  in how the in the bias in people that are sort of chiming in because
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  I know the same thing that most people know, and I haven't made any
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  conclusive anything on it. And it's just really interesting to see because ultimately what's
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  happening with crowders is that there is there is team women. That's what it
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  is. It's not left or right, it's team woman. And when this
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  shit happens, team woman. They circle the wagons and no matter who they've
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  advocated for in the past, whether it's Sidney Watson or Lauren Southern, they're
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  just like, okay, fuck men, right, Like I don't want to
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  hear anything. I saw what I needed to see I've made my judgment.
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  That's it, and I think that it's a good idea to look at that.
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  But well, we can start with whatever you are more comfortable with.
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  So all right, then queue up the video from k K Cow and we'll
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  look at that, and we'll have call Terry and we may have So this
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  is the news reports, like five minutes long. Yeah, we should be
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  able to get through quickly because it's a news report. They tend to be
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  more concise. Yeah, hopefully not a whole bunch of bullshit, but we
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  might have to be very careful about the copyright, so be aware of people.
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  There may be Banana's incoming. But yeah, and before we get into
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  other women about a potential suitor. Tonight, on your sides, Christine Lazar
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  takes a look at the case and what it could for our free speech.
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  I don't know that they're going to be too bad about like us playing this
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  our free speech. Suddenly we're talking about our free speech when you're talking about
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  actionable claims against a person or lies that your potential lies that you're spreading against.
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  That's what information is in free speed. You see, That's where game
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  or Gate went wrong. What they should have done is is I guess fielded
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  a whole bunch of women making false claims against somebody, against the games journalists.
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  And then when they were like, well, but these are actionable claims,
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  they could have said, well, don't take away their free speech.
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  They have every right to make claims, lie about people and affect their business
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  dealings and their relationships and their mental health. This is an absolute right,
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  except it isn't. That's why we have defamation laws right now. It's also
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  it's why we have laws against fraud and laws against defamation, and laws against
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  lying to police, and laws against perjury, you know, like laws against
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  all kinds of speech. You know, the First Amendment protects you from any
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  laws meant to limit your speech. Say, he doesn't prevent someone from taking
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  you to court because they don't like what you said about them online. Now
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  a group of women say they're being really I don't know, I don't know.
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  I have never heard of that. How well could anybody take somebody to
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  court over something that they said and they get ninety three fucking million dollars because
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  the guy said, I'm true social Oh she's a total nut job. She's
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  crazy and I never met her. Yea million dollars. She's she's a public
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  figure. Too, right, She's definitely, she's definitely well, I don't
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  think she's a public figure public figure, but she's definitely a limited purpose public
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  figure. So she became a public figure when she went with she went public
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  with her accusation of sexual assault, and so any any conversation about that,
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  right, about the sexual assault that she's alleged, Right, she is a
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  public figure in light of that, right, and so you have to prove
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  actual malice. So literally a man saying I never met that bitch, I
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  think she's crazy, all right, that is that is the unlawful speech.
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  Okay, all right, didn't think I had to say about it. It's
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  a matter of uh rules for thee for but not for me. Oh yeah,
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  No, It's a matter of perspective. It's always a matter of perspective,
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  right, Egene Carrol can say he she maybe even lyne, you know,
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  and I don't buy her story for a second, birddorfs an entire floor
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  empty. They don't even have any like loss prevention personnel there, right,
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  let alone any sale commissioned salespeople tripping over each other and like pulling each other's
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  hair out to get to Donald Trump and try and sell them thousands of dollars,
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  and there's a there's a dressing room unlocked in the lingerie section where you
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  could walk away. You could walk out of this door with like ninety thousand
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  dollars worth of merchandise under your clothes. Really, Oh yeah, yeah,
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  no, that that totally happened. Totally happened, Okay, yep. But
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  because you can't prove it didn't happen, she can't be sued for lying,
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  but he can be sued for doing it, and then he can be sued
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  for denying that he did it. I'm sorry. Anything is possible, really
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  when you meet strangers off the internet, but most don't think comments about a
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  bad date will lead to a defamation lawsuit filed by the guy they wish to
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  forget. I felt like I was being punked, honestly, just by the
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  things that were coming out of his mouth. Back in twenty twenty one,
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  Olivia Berger had a single date with a guy she met online. She says
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  she ended that date early and didn't think about him until years later, when
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  she saw this post in a private Facebook group called are We Dating the Same
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  Guy? It was Tad's photos of com posing it there for the banana,
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  but we've talked about this website before. Karen, are you there? Yeah?
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  Okay, Alison says, is there some she's got problems with her computer.
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  Alison, restart or something, get on a different machine, stop supporting
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  Apple. I don't know she's going to come back, so we're just going
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  to continue without her for now. So, yeah, we've covered this.
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  I don't know much about it. Are we dating the same guy? It's
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  like a group of women that they basically like, I guess, you know,
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  they form a whisper network around the men they've dated. I guess I
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  don't know, Like, are we dating the same guy? If you think
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  your guy is cheating, you would maybe post that on a group. Oh
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  so you share a picture of the guy. Oh I see, yeah,
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  yeah, and you'd be like, Okay, is anybody else dating this freaking
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  guy? Because I feel like I'm being cheated on whatever? You know?
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  That's yeah, But I mean, uh, I'm curious if anyone has met
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  so and so in person. I'm not sure if that's even his real name.
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  Okay, m h, all right, let me play her former date
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  and read Tea in comments asking if others had met him in person. Olivia
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  weighed in I want to emphasize I had never had a date like this.
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  Ever, years before Olivia met him, Vanessa Valdez matched with him on a
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  dating app. She also commented on the post that I said, how is
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  this? What is this? Gossiping? Apps? Harassed? No, but
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  Vanessa says their first Okay, but she says, she says, I've never
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  had a date like this. Elaborate. Yeah, right, they're not.
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  They're not even saying anything else on Are you back? Suspicious? Yes,
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  I'm I'm back. But isn't that not suspicious? I mean I just feel
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  something, but no actual well, what happened? Well no, I mean
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  maybe something did I got the it's the Well, no, he wasn't actually
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  you know what happened, well, at least according to him, who actually
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  explained what happened. They met for like fifteen minutes, according to him,
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  and he left because he wasn't interested. Oh he's not attractive, that's it.
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  So he's an autist. What do you mean he's an autist? Well,
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  you ask a woman out for a date, you spend at least you
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  have to put in at least an hour, and then say, well,
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  you know, I'm I'm sorry, but I'm not interested or whatever and then
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  leave, right. You wouldn't. You wouldn't be like, okay, fifteen
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  minutes. Fifteen minutes impressed me, right, yeah, no, I'm out
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  of here. I know it was fifteen minutes. She didn't impress him,
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  so he fucked off, right, Yeah. Yeah, that's a little rude.
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  It's hiss piroga, I'm sure, but it's still not very courteous.
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  It's what I'm saying. So I'm saying, Okay, so he's an autist,
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  all right. Either that or he's like so high status that he can
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  just let go from you know, it's like speed dating and I don't know,
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  well, yeah, if you're going to speed date, you go to
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  a speed dating thing, like, Okay, it's unusual. I did a
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  lot of dating. I never had any man just basically up and leave after
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  fifteen minutes. And I have had men who I got. We managed in
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  the parking lot after we decided that okay, this is just not going to
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  work. We managed in the parking lot to be like, okay, you
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  know, I actually like you better now that I'm not trying to date you.
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  You could have saw some red flags right off the bat too. Yeah,
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  exactly, I mean, honestly, she could have like opened up with
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  you know, how many kids do you want? And whoa, oh god,
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  yeah no, how many kids do you want this week? Yeah?
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  And or or just like uh, maybe she took out a picture of her
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  mother and he looked into his fucking future. You never know for sure.
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  All right, let's play some more. We don't know something about routine.
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  He took issue with her having a male friend in one of her profile photos,
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  and in a message, called her a moron and wrote, it's fun
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  watching you burn. And at that point, my stomach dropped the frick hearing
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  someone say it's fun watching you burn some stranger from the internet, it was
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  very what the hell? Okay, so this is this is the entire thing
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  that they they're hanging this on a testy interaction online. Have they ever been
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  online? Also? What was the stuff that was before that? Like an,
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  I'd like to see the whole context it is, Yeah, I'd like
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  to see the whole context. I guess I don't know. I have the
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  feeling he's trying to be like he's trying to go full on Andrew Tape,
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  but he's actually not good at it. No, he's not here's the problem,
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  Karen, He wasn't. But no, but when you have when you
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  have someone who's trying to neg their way into a relationship with a woman and
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  they're just not charming, they're just not charismatic, they're just not good at
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  actually negging it, actually leveraging those psychological I guess tools, right, It
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  just it comes off as clunky and retarded. And this guy is coming off
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  as clunky and retarded. Is he coming off as criminal? No? Well,
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  first of all, he wasn't interested in her like this is this is,
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  at least from her his point of view, he had if this indeed
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  the person he was supposedly dated for fifteen minutes, No, no, no,
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  this is a different person, Allison. The person that he dated for
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  fifteen minutes was a different person. And then this one is like, oh
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  yeah, okay, well I have I was missing part of this because I
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  wasn't. But she was, Yeah, she was just she just interacted with
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  him online and complained about the fact that he had a man in her profile.
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  She had a man in her profile? Pick? All right, okay,
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  so this is all right, fair enough? So what this is just
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  a nasty online internet or inter exchange yeah, okay, those things should never
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  happen, Alison. Women's women's experience on the internet should always before are you
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  going to how can you preserve women's free speech and oppose nasty online internet interactions?
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  Because I can tell you all ninety five percent of the nastiness I've seen
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  received online has been from women. Oh yeah, okay, let's keep going.
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  Aser responded that he should stay away from women and get help before reporting
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  him to the dating app. And that's the info, she says, she
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  relayed on that Facebook post. But in my post, I redacted his phone
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  number and just tell the truth and share my experience. But her version of
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  the truth will now be put to the test. The guy she and Olivia
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  and ten other women claim to have dated and later dissed in the Are We
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  Dating the Same Guy Facebook group are now being sued for defamation, sex based
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  discrimination, and invasion of privacy. Bye uh huh base, What are they
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  doxing him by putting his picture out there? They already did. Well,
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  this is now probably public record, like they've a well, it's a matter
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  of public record. You're looking at a court filing exactly exactly, So I
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  mean, like he can't he's he's not a rape victim. There's no publication
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  ban. We and if he's suing them for defamation and he generally feels defamed,
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  genuinely feels the same, he would want his picture out there. Yeah,
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  that's true. I a man named Stuart Lucas Murray. I think my
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  initial reaction is this can't go anywhere. This is there's nothing I said that
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  wasn't true. But yeah, I felt silenced. I felt like I was
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  being intimidated into silence, and that could be a problem. According to defamation
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  attorney Jeff Lewis in First Amendment World, we call that a chilling effect,
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  meaning when people fear they're going to be sued, they either stop talking or
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  they change what they're going to say because they're worried they're going to be sued.
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  Lewis says, anyone you guys want to respond to that? Okay,
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  Okay, this is the United States, it's here, yeah, no,
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  Los Angeles. Okay. There is a chilling effect on free speech when people
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  when people get overly litigious on defamation claims and stuff like that, right vexatious
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  in their litigiousness. But that does not have any bearing on whether this case
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  was a case of defamation or or not. I mean like it. I
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  have the feeling it will probably be dismissed free trial due to that. But
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  but I, you know, like I just I I would have to know
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  exactly exactly down to the freakin' letter what they said publicly about him in order
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  to know if But I can predict it's going to be dismissed pre trial on
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  a summary judgment. One can sue another person for what they say about them
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  online, but that doesn't mean they'll win. Well, you know, the
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  best way to avoid being sued for saying things on the internet is to say
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  things that are true or that our opinion. And if you step outside of
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  truth or opinion, there's a good chance you might get sued if it's something
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  negative. In this case, the women say that you mean fraud for defamation.
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  So laws exist Women most affected basically, Yeah, basically there is a
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  legal system women most affected. No, that's what they did. They spoke
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  their truth. Marie Disapo their truth, lawsuit her truth. This is where
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  we are now. They can just put this on the news. Nobody questions
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  it. She spoke her truth. They're in these favors. They're true we're
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  just lying about that's called a lie. Yeah, No, okay, no,
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  no, no, no, no, it's not necessarily a lie.
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  There's the truth, there's opinion, and there's lies. Well, no,
• 27:14
  there's the truth, there's opinion, there's false statements, and then there's lies.
• 27:22
  And yeah, like you might you might think, okay, that a
• 27:30
  false statement is a lie. No, No, if I repeat something that
• 27:34
  I believe that I was told that I believe to be true, I have
• 27:38
  no intent to deceive. Therefore I'm not lying. I'm making a false statement,
• 27:45
  right, But I'm not lying. And so it's I have no malice,
• 27:51
  I have no no intent to deceive, and therefore I can't well I
• 28:00
  shouldn't be sued over that, right. So it's it's like this, you're
• 28:06
  getting into like really murky legal territory here. This guy, I don't know
• 28:11
  who his lawyer is not a very good lawyer to even well, I mean,
• 28:18
  I guess he's a good lawyer if he's being paid to do something that's
• 28:25
  you know, that his client wants. But okay, so I mean,
• 28:30
  but I can't, I can't. I just I just can't see this lawsuit
• 28:36
  ending well for uh, mister Murray murray here. Yeah, well I believe
• 28:45
  that it has. It hasn't been dismissed, so there must be some some
• 28:52
  merit to it. There has there has There has to be some kind of
• 28:56
  factual statement that was false. Yeah, yeah, it can. It can't
• 29:03
  be a matter of oh he's creepy or oh I'm scared of him, right
• 29:07
  like, because that's that's subjective, that's opinion, right, it has to
• 29:11
  yeah, I mean it has to be. But I'm pretty sure that they
• 29:15
  alleged harassment. So so they did actually allege something that's potentially criminal. You
• 29:22
  can't accuse people of engaging in criminal acts. Yeah, you can't accuse people
• 29:26
  of engaging in criminal acts. That's that is, or being criminal. Oh
• 29:32
  yes, actually they he they did. They said that he was, oh
• 29:36
  he was part of or he may have been complicit with his mother, his
• 29:40
  wife's murder or a murder of a previous partner, and that he was convicted
• 29:44
  of domestic violence. So they know they were actually talk I'm pretty sure mis
• 29:48
  according to him, they were. They were alleging actual criminal on his part.
• 29:53
  Yeah, that they are in the crosshairs for that. Now, that
• 29:59
  is you can go into that when we get into his his gofund memes.
• 30:03
  Yeah. No, but but it's like I'm I'm looking at I'm looking at
• 30:07
  what's in this news report, and I'm thinking, well, you know,
• 30:11
  if that's all there is, they're not. They're not showing what they're The
• 30:15
  news typically is not showing you the whole story because they're on Team one.
• 30:21
  They're not showing you the most important parts of the story. They're they're massaging
• 30:25
  this. Now, like I said, he's going to have to prove that
• 30:29
  they they accused him of criminal activities. But that is definitely against the law.
• 30:36
  I don't know if people you know that, you know you cannot.
• 30:40
  It's actually, Alison, it's not against the law to accuse someone of criminal
• 30:45
  activity. No, to say no, to say that they did it,
• 30:49
  or to say that knowing to knowingly make a false accusation, right, is
• 30:56
  not the same as no, no, no, no, no. That
• 30:57
  doesn't know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about they said he did this,
• 31:02
  so they said he was convicted of it so, or that he was
• 31:06
  you know, we'll get into it when we get into his herbs, all
• 31:08
  right, statements keep going, Bran. One of the women falsely said he
• 31:17
  was involved in the murder of his ex wife. Another said he had STDs.
• 31:22
  Both Olivia and Vanessa say they never posted that or saw any other women
• 31:26
  make comments of that nature. In a statement in Portup it has never met,
• 31:30
  much less dated some of the women posting about him. He went on
• 31:33
  to accuse the women of catfishing him, saying they posted highly filtered and enhanced
• 31:38
  photos on their dating profiles, concluding perhaps these women are not successful at dating
• 31:45
  for obvious reasons. Lewis believes this case with I'm just I'm just pausing there.
• 31:52
  Well, I thought that happened the first woman I could, I could
• 31:56
  see her cat fishing you. Well, I think what happened is the woman
• 32:00
  she had her cleavage out, like in the freakin' interview, Like, okay,
• 32:05
  the first woman who he actually the one who's spent fifteen minutes with ye,
• 32:09
  yeah, I bet what happened was a solid sor Yeah, but she
• 32:15
  was presenting herself as much higher. Also, they're using really unflattering photos of
• 32:19
  him. Okay, let's keep going that's true. Will make it to court
• 32:23
  because a judge at this early stage can't believe one side or the other.
• 32:30
  That's a jury question. So this case will likely go to trial if it
• 32:32
  doesn't settle, and without representation and not a lot of expendable some damage the
• 32:38
  women, this could Okay, I'm pretty sure Women's Legal Aid has gotten involved.
• 32:46
  So they have, Yeah, of course they have. And on the
• 32:50
  pockets and all of the feminist NGOs whose bread and butter is these kinds of
• 32:54
  allegations made against men, they're going to be chipping into. Everybody who's defended
• 33:00
  Ember heard, they're gonna be chipping in. Believe me, these women have
• 33:02
  an ocean of money to draw on. And let's let's not forget Gion Gomeshi
• 33:08
  please, Okay I did forget him, but but I don't know. He
• 33:15
  was like the uh Canadian celebrity guy that this would like have like really what
• 33:23
  like weird kind of shows to freaking yeah radio guy and he would have like
• 33:29
  BDSM sex with women, like choking them and ship yeah yeah he uh.
• 33:37
  He was found not guilty because they lied like fucking rugs and they played Yeah
• 33:45
  there were email. He kept all his receipts, oh yeah, every I
• 33:51
  mean I think he's lucky because of that, honestly, but including the receipt
• 33:54
  for the flowers that the one woman sent him. The day after they supposedly
• 34:00
  spent the weekend together, she flew home and immediately ordered him flowers and had
• 34:07
  them sent to his house, and he kept the receipt for that. And
• 34:12
  then ten years later, she's like, halfway through the weekend he assaulted me,
• 34:17
  and then I didn't spend any more time with him. He kept the
• 34:20
  photos, everything, like, he kept everything, and it's like, well,
• 34:28
  you know, and then the Canadian the women just lied and lied and
• 34:31
  lied and lied and lied, and then the Canadian judicial system said, we're
• 34:36
  never going to let that happen again. Well, the Canadian now that oh
• 34:44
  god, no, no, no, that was r v JA in twenty
• 34:52
  ten. Was that the condem poking one. Oh no, that's a completely
• 35:00
  that's a totally different one. R VJA. R VJA was a judgment where
• 35:08
  okay, so you got these two BDSM enthusiasts, right, and they've been
• 35:14
  in a relationship for like, I don't know, eight years or something like
• 35:16
  that. Right, they're live in common law, they have a five year
• 35:21
  old son, and uh and in the course and this is actually from the
• 35:29
  judgment, I'm trying to remember the exact quote. During the course of conjugal
• 35:34
  relations. Okay, one night h r and oh sorry ja right and and
• 35:45
  his his wife right he he he choked out his wife okay and and tied
• 35:54
  her up once when she was unconscious. He tied her up, and it
• 36:00
  is a finding effect before the court that she was unconscious for about three minutes.
• 36:05
  He tied her up, and he inserted a sex toy into her bomb
• 36:09
  okay and uh and then she uh, she woke up, and he removed
• 36:19
  the toy and untied her and they continued to have sex throughout the course of
• 36:24
  the evening. Okay, uh and uh. Every everything was totally consensual,
• 36:31
  right and and then uh. A couple of months later, they have some
• 36:38
  epic end of the relationship fight and he yells at her that he's going to
• 36:45
  seek custody of their son, and then she accuses him of raping her.
• 36:52
  Okay and uh and so he's he's uh, he was convicted of rape.
• 37:01
  And then he appealed because she lied on the stand. Mind you, she
• 37:07
  lied on the stand. She said, well, yeah, okay, so
• 37:09
  I agreed to have sex with them, and I agreed to be choked choked
• 37:14
  out, but I and I even agreed to be tied up. But I
• 37:19
  didn't agree to that whole dildo up my bum thing. Okay, didn't agree
• 37:24
  to that, right, did not consent to that, and that was like
• 37:29
  he just sprung that one on me while I was unconscious, and yeah,
• 37:35
  hey, and so he was convicted. Right. Then it comes out,
• 37:42
  okay during the appeal that she actually lied about it, right, But she
• 37:49
  had agreed, She had agreed to all of these things, and she only
• 37:53
  had made the accusation because he threatened to seek custody of their son. Was
• 38:00
  the Canadian government do so then? Okay? Then the the the conviction was
• 38:07
  overturned. Okay, But because we don't have double jeopardy laws in Canada,
• 38:14
  right, the prosecution went after him again. Okay because the oh I guess,
• 38:21
  because one of the appeal court judges pose the question, but wait,
• 38:27
  can you consent in advance to sexual activity that will happen when you're unconscious?
• 38:37
  Right like this? This is this is a significant legal question. And so
• 38:44
  it went up to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court said, Nope,
• 38:46
  you can't. And so yes, you can agree before you go under the
• 38:53
  frickin' gas to have surgery, you can agree to all kinds of things.
• 39:00
  Right, oh, if there's an emergency, you if we accidentally nick an
• 39:04
  artery. Ooh, if like we notice that your appendix is inflamed while we're
• 39:07
  in there, right ooh, if we spot cancer in other spots in your
• 39:14
  abdomen, you know, uh? Or or ooh, Alison, you and
• 39:22
  I are going to a party and I'm planning on getting really drunk. Can
• 39:25
  you make sure I get home safe? Okay? And I go unconscious and
• 39:32
  you pick me up and take it into a that's kidnapping now right, Okay,
• 39:40
  yeah, no, because you can't consent in advance to anything that will
• 39:45
  happen while you're not conscious. Because in our patriarchy, we need to be
• 39:51
  able to like when a woman needs a religious false accusation against a man heaven,
• 39:57
  and ours needs to change a law to make it so her accusation is
• 40:02
  true in principle, and the guy went back to prison, right and she
• 40:09
  didn't get prosecuted for perjury or nothing. So yeah, that's that's basically it.
• 40:19
  You know the thing patriarchy. Patriarchy oppresses women. And I'm thinking of
• 40:25
  I'm thinking of myself, like if I was a BDSM enthusiast in Canada,
• 40:35
  I'd be moving to fucking Antigua. Okay, Well, anybody, any men
• 40:40
  who are bds and m enthusiasts in Canada, you might want to consider this.
• 40:45
  Be very careful. Apparently even prior consent is irrelevant at any point in
• 40:51
  time, You're going to jail if you had no like the court accepted that
• 41:00
  at no point during the events of that night, while she had a state
• 41:06
  of mind, was her state of mind not one of full consent, enthusiastic
• 41:13
  consent. She was enthusiastically consenting before she was rendered unconscious, she was enthusiastically
• 41:21
  consenting when she was roused from unconsciousness, and she continued to be enthusiastically consenting
• 41:28
  for hours afterwards. Right, at no point in that evening was did she
• 41:36
  have a state of mind that was unconsenting? Okay? Yes, and and
• 41:45
  and he literally said, right consent law exists to protect women, Okay,
• 41:54
  And this is this is why it's so frickin' guinocentric. Right consent law exists
• 42:00
  to protect women from acts that they do not want to engage in. Okay.
• 42:08
  It is not there to prohibit women from from engaging in acts that they
• 42:15
  do. So even the dissenting judge is like, it's still all about the
• 42:23
  women. Yeah, yeah, there is. In Canada, there is a
• 42:30
  Giganta, there is a there. Since the sixties, there is law only
• 42:35
  protecting women. So we have a legal system in which there's law that only
• 42:39
  protects women. That's its only purpose, and it's it's unbelievable, and we
• 42:45
  keep going further and further into this. Right, the idea that we live
• 42:51
  in a patriarchy that puts women over men or men over women. Sorry,
• 42:55
  cariadean slip, is bullshit, and we never did because if you look back
• 43:01
  throughout history, there have been plenty of instances where women had more protections in
• 43:06
  law than men did, certainly against being expected to sacrifice themselves for the defense
• 43:13
  and protection, the defense and provision of their society. Okay, so every
• 43:17
  single society, going back to like freaking Mesopotamia, right, has had provisions,
• 43:25
  legal provisions designed to protect and provide for women and children. And who
• 43:30
  was expected to do that? It was men and including sexual protections. Right,
• 43:37
  The only thing that protected Joseph from Potiphar's wife was I guess the thou
• 43:46
  shalt not bear false witness. That's it, and nothing protected, nothing protected
• 43:52
  Joseph, I think it was no Jacob. Who is it the one that
• 43:57
  the Handmaiden's Tale is based on. And believe it's Jacob from his wife and
• 44:01
  his second wife that he didn't want and you know, all of their impositions
• 44:06
  on him, nothing protected him, and and and it ended up Margaret Atwood
• 44:10
  looked at that tale which was like wall to wall sexual abuse of and extortion
• 44:16
  of a man and also prostitution of a man, and turned it into the
• 44:21
  Handmaiden's Tale. It's astounding. They can eat Feminists can somehow appropriate stuff that's
• 44:27
  done to men a race that it's done to men and presented as being done
• 44:30
  to women. And it's it's astounding to watch the process here. But anyway,
• 44:37
  getting back to this problem, bring me the head of John the Baptist.
• 44:40
  What's interesting is that I believe this is their lawyer that's speaking, or
• 44:45
  maybe it's somebody who's on call for this particular news agency, but like they're
• 44:51
  legal expert. Extremely sleazy guy looking though so props. He does definitely look
• 44:55
  like a lawyer. He said, this is likely to go ahead because,
• 45:02
  oh, because you know, the bar of evidence is solo that's bullshit.
• 45:07
  Like Karen was saying, she was surprised it would go to head to go
• 45:09
  to trial. So the fact that it's continuing forward, well, they had
• 45:17
  strong had something fucked up shit, But they say they must have said something
• 45:22
  that they did not stay in this new short if their lawyer or this lawyer
• 45:25
  is saying, oh, well it's it'll go ahead to trial, but that
• 45:29
  doesn't mean anything. Oh it does mean something, friends, it definitely means
• 45:32
  something. Okay, let's keep going, all right, I got some super
• 45:37
  childs on to read through really quick and then we'll keep going. So I
• 45:38
  got one from Richard Beierre for five dollars and he says, I doubt that
• 45:45
  Amy is having to shell out twenty five k a month to any previous partner.
• 45:49
  Though every five dollars is the last five dollars we need. If everyone
• 45:52
  watching can kick in just five dollars is fundraising effort and be completed. Thank
• 45:57
  you, Richard, really appreciate that. And then another one from Richard Bierre
• 46:01
  for five and he says, there is a legal concept known as the doctrine
• 46:06
  of clean hands when engaging in civil action. I don't know if you guys
• 46:10
  want to say anything to that real quick before I move on to the next
• 46:13
  one. Let me look it up, all right, I'll read the next
• 46:16
  one in the meantime. FYI bought or I'm sorry, FYI sorry, I'm
• 46:22
  reading it wrong. FYI gives us five dollars and says Wikipedia is becoming more
• 46:27
  propagandaized. There is a cool site called everybody wiki dot com whose goal is
• 46:31
  to save pages from Wikipedia before they are deleted, censored, or memory hold.
• 46:36
  Thank you for that, Yes, yes we know. And then I
• 46:39
  got one more from Richard Bierre again. It gives us five bucks and says
• 46:44
  Terrence Pop wants a drinking rematch with Karen. I don't know if you guys,
• 46:47
  was that officially that a thing that happened. What Terence ply have a
• 46:53
  drinking match with? Oh no, I could drink him under the TA.
• 47:01
  He doesn't drink that much. I think he just holds a bottle. Yeah
• 47:07
  anyway, well no, he does. He does drink, but he doesn't
• 47:13
  drink a whole lot like beer. Not not the last time I saw him
• 47:16
  back in twenty nineteen. But oh yeah, that reminds me this individual.
• 47:24
  Stuart Murray, doctor Stuart Murray has actually also sued cheaters dot calm, and
• 47:30
  I think a related action which has been show cheaters no cheater cheaters dot com.
• 47:38
  Yeah cheaters? Is that based on the old show Cheaters? You guys
• 47:42
  remember that shows? So I think it's probably just a it's just like Nashley
• 47:46
  Madison knockoff. Oh I see, Okay, okay, so he's suing them.
• 47:52
  No, no, it's it's not nationally Madison knockoff. It's not a
• 47:55
  dating site. Sorry, it's a yeah. No, I'm going to be
• 48:00
  another one of these as a cheater. Yeah, that's another one of these
• 48:04
  rumor mills that women use to enforce these toxic social norms or social approborum or
• 48:13
  social punishments on men without any judicial oversight. Because we're all about no accountability,
• 48:20
  we should have a what there should be a website called slots dot com
• 48:23
  for men. It'd be like you know what I mean, like silence Silence
• 48:29
  whole dot com in in homage to Terence Pop Well, I mean, but
• 48:38
  to be fair, it really should call out women who use these kind of
• 48:43
  tactics to harm men, you know. And it's despicable because like again,
• 48:49
  there is no oversight over this. They're trying to apply punishments without any consequences.
• 48:53
  Well, now there are consequences. This is what they're talking about it
• 48:57
  being chilling. Yeah. The clean doctrine is that it's in terms of laws
• 49:05
  of equity, so courts of equity, which are you know, generally men
• 49:09
  versus women courts. If you come into the courtroom with clean hands, if
• 49:15
  you come in in good faith, if you're making a claim in good faith
• 49:21
  or defending yourself from a claim in good faith. Right, But if you're
• 49:25
  not, if you're acting in bad faith, if you're a bad faith actor,
• 49:31
  your case can be dismissed like out of okay, just all right,
• 49:37
  all right. So the clean hands doctrines might apply in this way because he's
• 49:40
  also has another pending litigation against something for something similar, So they might have
• 49:46
  looked at this and said, okay, well he's a vexatious litigant. They
• 49:51
  haven't. Okay, So there's probably something legitimate in both claims. And it
• 49:55
  may have been that he went after cheaters dot Com or whatever it is in
• 50:00
  order to try to track people down, if that makes sense, because you
• 50:06
  actually have to be able to know their legal name before before you can issue
• 50:10
  some you can actually go go, you know, issue uh sum or whatever
• 50:17
  it is, like a make some judgment, dismissal whatever, Well before you
• 50:23
  can issue a claim against them, like remember statement, a statement of claim.
• 50:28
  Yeah, remember we had to go through to even identify the legal name
• 50:30
  of the Calgary XPO. Remember that show. Yeah, yeah, that's that's
• 50:36
  what one. The one may have been to try to extract the names of
• 50:44
  the bad actors from from whatever it might have been. I don't know,
• 50:49
  But anyway, the courts haven't used the fact that he's started in a very
• 50:53
  similar claim another one as evidence that you know, clean hands doctrine, he's
• 51:00
  vess just vexatious liting in. I don't know if I'm correct from this estimation,
• 51:05
  but again, the fact that this lawyer is practicing some damage control with
• 51:13
  what he's saying about. Oh oh, if it goes forward, that doesn't
• 51:16
  mean anything, No, it does. It does mean something. Okay,
• 51:22
  Okay, I'm just looking. I'm just looking up this an example, right,
• 51:28
  So a plaintiff he okay, So the defendant opened account at a pharmacy
• 51:37
  for the benefit of the plaintiffs, so the plaintiff could obtain medication for his
• 51:43
  work related injuries. The plaintiff charged items unrelated to those work related injuries.
• 51:50
  The defendant closed the account, and the plaintiff sued to keep the account open.
• 51:55
  The court held that the plaintiff plaintiff's abuse of the account necessitated of finding
• 52:02
  that the plaintiff had unclean hands. So basically, if he committed if okay,
• 52:08
  so you're like, okay, I'm I'm suing the boss or I want
• 52:15
  my boss to pay for my work related injuries, and then you just use
• 52:20
  that account to pay for all kinds of other meds as well, and then
• 52:25
  your boss closes the account and then and then you sue to have it opened
• 52:32
  up again. And no, you were, you were actually abusing the account.
• 52:37
  So I mean, it's it's like it's basically, have you been an
• 52:43
  asshole? Yes? So what I think Richard is trying to get at is
• 52:49
  there is if this is going forward the courts, it's doing so because he
• 52:57
  probably hasn't been an asshole, he hasn't been necessarily abusing things. And also
• 53:04
  there's legitimacy to it. Okay, So this is this is like when the
• 53:09
  lawyers pooh poohing all this and like, oh, he's he's doing damage control
• 53:13
  here, friends. Well, he's talking about like things that are even more
• 53:19
  murky than clean hands, right, which is the chilling effect. And that
• 53:25
  ye, well that's all they got. That's all they got is an appeal
• 53:29
  to the general women. You know, man targeted by false rumors that harmed
• 53:34
  his life, of criminality, that harmed his life. Women most affected guys,
• 53:38
  women women. We got to save the women. It's just basically shock
• 53:43
  and jib All right, let's finish this off because we want to get to
• 53:45
  his statements, all right, but bankrupt them at the end of the day.
• 53:51
  These kinds of suits don't just affect me and Vanessa and our co defendants,
• 53:55
  And I feel that a lot of times women are still being silenced.
• 54:00
  In January, a similar lawsuit was filed in Chicago by a man who was
• 54:04
  also the subject of a post in the Facebook group are we Dating the same
• 54:07
  Guy? I did reach out to the moderator of that group, but she
• 54:12
  has not responded. That moderator, by the way, has created a fundraiser
• 54:15
  to help the women in Chicago being sued, But these women here in La
• 54:20
  says she has not offered to help them christ probably because it's a much worse
• 54:27
  situation. But honestly, that's that. I think that says something too.
• 54:32
  You don't like he's she's helping the Chicago the set of Chicago women maybecause it
• 54:38
  is a vexatious litigant, but she's not helping them. Maybe you know who
• 54:43
  knows. We should get to the actual like testimony. Shall we say?
• 54:47
  Oh? Uh so does that the is that like a different link? I
• 54:52
  don't know which one it is? Is it? Is it the go fund
• 54:55
  me? Yes? It is the funds the fund is it? It should
• 54:59
  be? Yeah? Yeah, I sent it to you, so you should
• 55:01
  have it handy. Yeah, I know I have it. It's up.
• 55:06
  I just wanted to make read it, but i'd have to switch to a
• 55:08
  different computer. I have to switch to my I got it. I got
• 55:10
  it up on the screen. I'm sharing it right now right harassments c this
• 55:15
  is his, This is his. This is his because he's he's making the
• 55:20
  claim that they're stalking him, which let's let's go through against aw d t
• 55:25
  s are wedding the same guy. Harassment. Yeah, hi, I'll read
• 55:29
  it. I'm not making this as like a you know, like a call.
• 55:32
  You're not promoting this this Uh, I'm just saying if you want using
• 55:37
  it as a source, if you want to see his GoFundMe yourselves, you
• 55:42
  can look up Stuart Lucas Murray. If this is all above board, which
• 55:46
  you have to determine yourself, don't don't don't rely on us, Always think
• 55:51
  for yourself. If this is above board, this is a really important case
• 55:55
  because it puts women on blast that they can't engage in malicious slander or defamation
• 56:05
  whichever. I don't want to against men for nothing because they're just feel pissed
• 56:12
  because their emotions are are wibbly wobbly, like it's you. You can't do
• 56:16
  that, and honestly, that's a good thing. You shouldn't be able to
• 56:23
  harm people with your words, like and legitimately like thro with the with the
• 56:30
  legally and I'm not talking about about insults or hate speech or what they call
• 56:35
  hate speech. I'm talking about things. Lying about people about their criminal actions,
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  lying about their business practices, lying about things that cause them financial and
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  social harm, right, false accusations in the social sphere like this is this,
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  This is not acceptable behavior. It's not spilling the tea. It's being
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  a creep and in many cases it's being a creep who's running a foul of
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  the law. All right, let's let's read what she had, what he
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  has to say. So if this is all above board, this is I
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  think a very important case. So you might want to consider going there,
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  checking it out and finding out for yourself if you think it's somebody something you
• 57:19
  want to help out. I'm not going to say whether or not. I'm
• 57:23
  not going to make an endorsement, but right there, figure out for yourself
• 57:29
  if you want to to make if you want to make, you know,
• 57:31
  help this situation out, Help this guy out. All right, let's go
• 57:35
  read it, all right? Support the cause against are We Dating the Same
• 57:39
  Guy? Harassment? He's at three thousand and sixty thousand. Doctor Stewart Lucas
• 57:49
  Murray is organized this fundraiser. Hi, my name is doctor Stuart Lucas Murray,
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  plaintiff of case number two three STCV one four eight nine zero. For
• 57:58
  several months, he stalked and spread misinformation about me in the are we Dating
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  the Same Guy? Facebook group? Like millions of people who were posted about
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  in these groups, I was restricted from defending myself to explain after matching with
• 58:14
  one woman on a dating app and giving her my phone number. I ultimately
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  blocked her when I became suspicious of her pictures and lost interest in meeting her.
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  Instead of going her separate way, she posted about me in a few
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  of these Facebook groups, obsessively digging for information, bumping her own original posts
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  about me multiple times in a year, and later calling me a viral subject.
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  Hikes to emphasize I have never met this person in my life, and
• 58:38
  the first time I ever really saw her face was on TV when she took
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  part in a press release about me. At least two hundred and thirty eight
• 58:46
  Facebook accounts participated in harming me for over a year. Some of their acts
• 58:52
  included posting my pictures without my permission, tracking my whereabouts, conspiring to harass
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  me, fabricating entire store, and sensationalizing their unremarkable interactions with me. As
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  of now, I am suing ten of them who stepped over the line.
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  I will be going into these causes in detail. I am not there.
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  Go ahead. I just want I want to and I apologize if we talk
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  over each other. It's just because it's a little difficult we can't see each
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  other. But I just want to point out that you notice how he's actually
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  saying what's happening. You know, he's not saying I feel and oh this
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  was horrible, and then we you know, like he's not omitting details about
• 59:35
  the actual events and what occurred. Because what's really interesting is I found with
• 59:40
  women's allegations is that oftentimes women will make an allegation of nothing. You know
• 59:46
  what I'm talking about, Brian. It's like absolutely one hundred percent. I
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  mean they'll say things like I didn't feel safe for you know, well,
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  they'll make an allegation about an incident and they will omit what actually happened and
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  then say, well, you know, like you said, I didn't feel
• 1:00:05
  safe, I felt like he didn't. I was afraid. They'll they'll they'll
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  just skip what happened and go right to their emotions. And it's like,
• 1:00:19
  what was the allegation, What are you alleging he did? What is the
• 1:00:22
  actionable action here? And that there's nothing, It's just this wibbly wobbly happened.
• 1:00:30
  And then I felt I felt crushed in my women parts, in my
• 1:00:36
  soul, women's soul parts. Oh my oaries were so sore after that,
• 1:00:42
  yeah, my my my, when my brain parts were stinging I don't know,
• 1:00:49
  Like, no, my hippocampus really suffering. It was really like it
• 1:00:54
  was really ringing, you know, it was making went right into my hip
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  campus. Uh it was agitating my gets that reference? Okay, I didn't,
• 1:01:08
  so I get the memory. The memory went straight into my hippo campus.
• 1:01:14
  Do you mean this as like a brain? Chris Christine Blasiford testimony before
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  Congress. I was I thought I was going. I was going really like
• 1:01:25
  into the like the hyperbole. So they actually one of these women actually did
• 1:01:30
  that. She was like sometime in the nineteen nineties. I'm not sure when,
• 1:01:36
  and I'm not sure where Brett Kavanaugh felt me up over my under my
• 1:01:43
  clothes, but over on my bathing suit at a house party. And the
• 1:01:50
  memory of that went right into my hippo campus. Are you? And there
• 1:01:58
  are people who literally believe that story still to this day. I know all
• 1:02:02
  about the hippocampus because I'm a psychology professor. Okay, well all right,
• 1:02:10
  campus is aside like this any anyway? Yeah? No, Like she literally
• 1:02:15
  testified to that the memory went straight into my hippocampus, and everybody ran with
• 1:02:21
  it. It's deep in my hippocampus. I'm okay. But is it in
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  the cockles of your heart or possibly in the subcocal region of your heart,
• 1:02:32
  maybe in your testes uh prostate? Somewhere and around there is somewhere in there?
• 1:02:42
  Is it in your colonuitary, your your fecal sack, I mean your
• 1:02:50
  sekul sack, your appendix, is in your appendix? Is it in any
• 1:02:55
  of your islets of laying her hands your sleep, Miss Christine blasi Ford.
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  Is it somewhere there? Maybe maybe it's in your third interstitial nucleus of your
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  anterior hypothelmus. Maybe that swear it went okay when I finished reading this?
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  Where it would be if you thought you were actually a man? Never mind
• 1:03:25
  mean. At least two hundred and thirty eight Facebook accounts participated in harming me
• 1:03:35
  for over a year. Some of their acts included what you already read it.
• 1:03:38
  I am not their only victim. That's where we picked us. Oh
• 1:03:40
  oh oh, I am not their only victim. To give you a glimpse
• 1:03:44
  of how far these defendants go, please see below only viewable on tablets and
• 1:03:47
  smartphones. These defendants have been admonished for their acts against innocent people by others
• 1:03:53
  unrelated to this case, yes, screenshots, so I don't know if it's
• 1:03:58
  if I'm because it says unable to you. But okay, kel, this
• 1:04:02
  is not okay. Stop gossiping about this dead man. To be fair,
• 1:04:08
  I had no idea he had passed when I made the post. Just to
• 1:04:10
  be clear, it's okay to gossip about men who are alive and not able
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  to see the page or any or defend anything, but not ones who unknowingly
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  passed. This page is supposed to be a safe space to call out men
• 1:04:21
  who have been disrespectful. That's what he did. Him dying doesn't change his
• 1:04:28
  behavior in life. Here they are a mere trying to gossip mill and keep
• 1:04:33
  you out of the dating pool. I don't get good vibes. Sound like
• 1:04:36
  a high schooler a high school locker room. Gee, I don't know,
• 1:04:40
  liv Burger. Maybe people change. We didn't get good vibes from your comments
• 1:04:45
  either. Okay, those are weird posts, but okay. Citing freedom of
• 1:04:49
  speech, these women put their needs, in securities, and amusement over the
• 1:04:53
  privacy and rights of others. However, when it comes to shining a light
• 1:04:57
  on these cyberbullies who type in the shadows, the sentiment changes, calling herself
• 1:05:02
  anonymous defendant on her GoFundMe and depicting themselves with an image of women hiding their
• 1:05:08
  faces. The message is different. Privacy is important to these defendants. They
• 1:05:13
  value privacy for themselves, but do not see that it is that that as
• 1:05:17
  a right for others is truly disgusting. Free speech relates to government prosecution.
• 1:05:24
  Whereas in other countries you might get arrested for disagreeing with your government, the
• 1:05:29
  United States does not prosecute you for such prosecute you for such speech I mean,
• 1:05:33
  but they're working on that. Free speech does not relate to civil acts
• 1:05:36
  that harm other people, like defamation and invasion of privacy. The government does
• 1:05:41
  not protect your unprivileged communication, and the courts will decide if you are have
• 1:05:45
  harmed someone. This is a case of prosecuting people who invade privacy, skew
• 1:05:49
  facts about others, harass others, gang Stock, and Cybervoli. They thought
• 1:05:55
  they could get away with it. This is a case that must go to
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  trial and prevail so that we all can enjoy genuine free speech without fear of
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  being violated. I support a safe space for women to protect themselves against being
• 1:06:08
  star harassed or harmed, and not the other way around. These women exploited
• 1:06:12
  the concept of a safe space to gossip, to fame, insyparably anyone at
• 1:06:15
  whim. The acts of these defendants are hate, failed and unrelenting. As
• 1:06:19
  many of you know, the moderator Paula Sanchez allegedly banned some or all of
• 1:06:25
  them from these Facebook groups. They have since gone on national TV and created
• 1:06:30
  a GoFundMe page to ramble about me. Let me reiterate, I have never
• 1:06:34
  met most of them in my life. I have barely talked to, if
• 1:06:39
  ever any of them. I only recall meeting one of them and her and
• 1:06:44
  her one of them and her for less than fifteen minutes before I left.
• 1:06:48
  Any minimal interaction with them was abruptly cut off by my swift projection. When
• 1:06:54
  I saw them on TV to hold a press conference about me, it was
• 1:06:58
  the first time I was seeing most of their face. They are begging the
• 1:07:01
  nation for money. Many people have instead reached out to me to contribute to
• 1:07:05
  my cause. I am just one individual juggling the endless antics of several defendants
• 1:07:11
  who have so far flooded with me with a barrage of media inquiries and false
• 1:07:15
  statements. I hope to pave the way for millions of victims, most unaware
• 1:07:19
  they are subjects of trashy posts by tragedy women. If you support my cause,
• 1:07:24
  please go ahead and donate anonymously if needed. The funds will go into
• 1:07:28
  the vast amount of legal fees, damage, expert deposition expenses, research and
• 1:07:32
  time to deal with an overwhelming amount of work against multiple defendants. Did you
• 1:07:38
  want to say something if you want? Okay, so he's there. This
• 1:07:43
  is just some more statements on you know that this is important. We got
• 1:07:45
  a lot of work ahead of us. Yeah, yeah, we got yeah,
• 1:07:47
  Okay. So what I did was I actually took a look at his
• 1:07:53
  current lawsuit against one of the two of the women, well all the women
• 1:07:59
  who are speaking, and I looked at where they were in terms of documents
• 1:08:04
  now or what has been filed now. I would have to go back and
• 1:08:10
  I'd have to use the crappy mic to look much more closely at all this.
• 1:08:15
  You know what I'm going to do that I apologize people. My sounds
• 1:08:16
  about to get crappy because I've got to go to the research computer. All
• 1:08:20
  right, you see how it's crappy, right, Oh, God, Yeah,
• 1:08:26
  it's fine, It's fine, all right. So I'm looking up this
• 1:08:30
  stuff on Trellis. You guys can look it up to using his case number
• 1:08:35
  the cause send me, yeah, go ahead. Well you may not be
• 1:08:41
  able to, I'll send you the link. Put it in the discord if
• 1:08:45
  you. If you're able, If not, don't worry about it. You
• 1:08:46
  just tell me. I just I just sent it through the discord. So
• 1:08:50
  the causes of action are defamation libel. Third cause of action false invade,
• 1:08:58
  well false light exactly share. What that is is probably a summer as like
• 1:09:01
  a aggregation, invasion of privacy that privation of constitutional rights to at California Civil
• 1:09:08
  Court, intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligent interference with perspective economic advantage so,
• 1:09:15
  and declaratory really so essentially he's saying that they also interfered with his business
• 1:09:19
  or his ability to have a career, which are wad be surprised like.
• 1:09:25
  And what I heard that they alleged, or at least allegedly that they accused
• 1:09:30
  him of, was that he was involved in the murder of a former partner,
• 1:09:34
  which he says she died of cancer, and also that he was convicted
• 1:09:40
  of domestic violence. So that's definitely something that you can't do. You cannot
• 1:09:46
  say that people have been subjects from victions for criminal activities. All right,
• 1:09:53
  So I don't know if he has his own lawyer, but I will say
• 1:09:57
  some people have said, oh, he's a doctor, he can the legal
• 1:10:00
  pie. No, this is a black hole, especially because I'm looking at
• 1:10:05
  like the the updates. Are you able to see this stuff here? Uh?
• 1:10:13
  Let me share this tab instead? So uh, I'm looking at what's
• 1:10:20
  the thing where I can download or print the docket? But I don't have
• 1:10:24
  to do that, right, No, No, run mean things. You
• 1:10:27
  probably can't access a lot of the information because you're not locked in. But
• 1:10:30
  I can't actually show people what I've just seen. But you know, it's
• 1:10:35
  a little bit confusing because you know, it's a it's legal stuff. It's
• 1:10:39
  like spaghetti. But especially what I looked at is, first of all,
• 1:10:46
  it hasn't been dismissed, and right now the latest news is that the the
• 1:10:58
  one of the women. Let me let me look at what I what I
• 1:11:00
  sent here, So the latest is a is a declaration like a a decision
• 1:11:09
  or motion, and it was a the motion was a protective order requested by
• 1:11:15
  one of the women. Okay, Now I would actually have to ask Karen
• 1:11:20
  if this is this is an ongoing course court case. But essentially, what
• 1:11:26
  this woman did is she put in a motion for a protective order and this
• 1:11:32
  is this is the court statement on that it was denied by the way it
• 1:11:39
  was denied by the judge. Okay, what an inspection, copying, testing,
• 1:11:43
  or sampling of documents, tangible things, places were electronically stored information?
• 1:11:47
  You know what I'm going to get? Should I get on the better mic
• 1:11:49
  for reading this? Because this might be painful? I don't know. That's
• 1:11:53
  fine, Okay. Our electronically stored information has been in and the party to
• 1:11:58
  whom the demand has to directed, and any other party, affected person or
• 1:12:02
  affected person may promptly move for a protective order. The party moving for the
• 1:12:08
  order must make a showing a good cause to spare them from unwanted annoyance,
• 1:12:12
  embarrassment, or oppression, or undue burden and expense. Defendant Vanessa Badills moves
• 1:12:19
  for a protective order for discoveries served upon her by plaintiffs Stuart Lucas Murray.
• 1:12:25
  So this is she doesn't she doesn't want to actually release her information. Yeah,
• 1:12:31
  yeah, no, it gets even more crazy, It gets even more
• 1:12:34
  crazy. All right, let me continue this moves her protective order for discovery
• 1:12:41
  served upon her by plaintiffs. Stuart Lucas Murray, defendant, writes nominally in
• 1:12:45
  response to the motion for discovery file by plaintiff and argues that this discovery sought
• 1:12:48
  is overbroad, unduly burdened some irrelevant privilege in private. So essentially, what
• 1:12:54
  we have the latest information about this case is that Vanessa Valdez early, that's
• 1:13:00
  how you say it, has moved for a protective order. So this is
• 1:13:04
  where it gets really interesting. Okay, the motion is defective. It addresses
• 1:13:10
  a discovery motion which evidently has not been filed with this court and does not
• 1:13:14
  identify the discovery with which it takes issue, nor is the motion accompanied by
• 1:13:18
  a meet and confer declaration. She's preemptively trying to block discovery. No,
• 1:13:28
  it's more than that she is engaging in law fair. She is putting forward
• 1:13:34
  motions that have to be analyzed and decided upon. Or these women are putting
• 1:13:41
  forward to motions that are completely spurious. So they're saying, I motioned to
• 1:13:45
  stop the defendant or the plaintiffs for doing this. The plaintiff hasn't done it.
• 1:13:49
  They're just doing it because they have the right to do it. This
• 1:13:51
  is lawfair, you get what I'm saying. It's like stuff that we dealt
• 1:13:57
  with with the Mary Sue. Yeah, she's she's trying to preatively prevent discovery
• 1:14:04
  of She's basically saying, he's going to ask for things that from me,
• 1:14:15
  information from me, and I'm going to argue that his potential future request for
• 1:14:21
  discovery is overbroad, and so I want you to deny it. Just all
• 1:14:28
  discovery out of hand. He hadn't even issued emotion. He hadn't even like
• 1:14:33
  filed for discovery. Yeah, apparently not according to the According to the judge,
• 1:14:40
  he hadn't. So this was a he hadn't applied for. So basically
• 1:14:44
  the judge said, you're you're filing a protective order for something the defendant isn't
• 1:14:48
  even asking for. Yeah, So last why I'm saying that this is long
• 1:14:53
  And here's where it gets even more interesting. After Vanessa's protective protective order was
• 1:14:59
  denied by the judge Kelly Gibbons. The day that Vanessa's order was denied,
• 1:15:05
  Kelly Gibbons fires the same order against the plaintiff. Oh yeah, no,
• 1:15:12
  that's that Rabbi Schmooley lawyer. Sorry sorry, I'm not anti semitic, but
• 1:15:19
  no, that's that's a lawyer. That's their lawyer who's Yeah. Essentially,
• 1:15:27
  it looks like they're doing, and I could be wrong, what it looks
• 1:15:30
  like they're doing is they are chaining these spurious protection orders in order to extend
• 1:15:36
  the process, in order to delay any kind of decision or getting to the
• 1:15:42
  point of going to court. That's what they're They're not they're not trying to
• 1:15:45
  delay. They're trying to block access. Look if they were trying to block
• 1:15:50
  access to evidence here, they wouldn't be chaining it. This is the this
• 1:15:57
  is the sequence. As far as I understand, Vanessa does files emotion for
• 1:16:02
  protective order to prevent discovery, right, she files the motion. Okay,
• 1:16:06
  yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. They know they're going to have to
• 1:16:10
  give it up, but they're trying to block. Listen, just listen to
• 1:16:13
  it. Just listen to my analysis. Then you can give your v nesveld
• 1:16:16
  Is files emotion to block, right, and then it's denied, And then
• 1:16:23
  the next one does, and then the next one is going to and then
• 1:16:26
  the next one's going to, Ye, why would we all find drag out.
• 1:16:30
  They're going to drag it, that's the point. So it's going to
• 1:16:33
  drag out. It's going to drag out, and he's going to drain his
• 1:16:36
  freaking coffer that's what they want to do. They want to drain his coffers.
• 1:16:41
  They're engaging in law there. Okay. But even even if they did
• 1:16:48
  it all at once, okay, and they all said we want to block
• 1:16:54
  his access to discovery, right, it would still be uh, it would
• 1:17:00
  be i don't know, slightly less bad, but it would still be unlawful,
• 1:17:05
  like these bitches need to be smacked down. Yeah, by right.
• 1:17:14
  It doesn't really, it doesn't really speak to let me just uh, let
• 1:17:20
  me get the It doesn't speak to the fact ending this in good faith,
• 1:17:26
  That's what I'm getting at. No, they're there, don't have they don't
• 1:17:29
  have clean hands. Oh my fucking god, who don't have clean hands?
• 1:17:32
  If they're chaining their protective orders, it may not even be an issue of
• 1:17:36
  blocking. It may simply be an issue of we are going to extend this
• 1:17:42
  as long as possible so we can drain this man's resources. Get rid of
• 1:17:46
  him, because we've experienced that with with our lawsuit against the Mary Calgary.
• 1:17:51
  Yeah, yeah, that was, ye, that was That was a freaking
• 1:17:55
  night It was a black hole nightmare. And you were saying, and it
• 1:17:58
  actually makes a lot of sense. It's that that entire lawsuit came down to
• 1:18:03
  they violated consumer protection. Well, I alleged they violated consumer protection in Canada.
• 1:18:11
  What hands what happens when that happens. Well, well, according to
• 1:18:14
  the law they did. What happens is you pay seven hundred and fifty bucks
• 1:18:17
  and you move on. That's it. It's like it's it's like twenty minutes
• 1:18:23
  in and out. But it became this extended thing because if they had ruled
• 1:18:28
  in my favor, it may have given a precedent to start protecting citizens of
• 1:18:33
  Canada for their political speech. There you go, Okay, I'm not going.
• 1:18:40
  I have I have I have to go for a minute. Okay,
• 1:18:44
  Okay, So I have to phone my mother in law and tell her to
• 1:18:46
  stop calling. Okay, jeez, all right, Well we'll look forward to
• 1:18:51
  you coming back in a minute. I don't know if there's anything more we
• 1:18:54
  could say about this, it'll wait till the trial. So this is this
• 1:18:58
  is my opinion on this. This is what I'm seeing. I'm seeing a
• 1:19:01
  vectaate that on their side they don't look like they're acting in good faith.
• 1:19:05
  But again it's just pattern recognition. I might be completely wrong. Let's keep
• 1:19:10
  an eye on it. Okay, Brian, do you want to start all?
• 1:19:14
  Right? Well, I got well, I got a super chow,
• 1:19:15
  and then maybe we can do some thank you and I'll try to like going
• 1:19:20
  to the even crowd of things. So Richard Beierre gives us our dollars and
• 1:19:26
  says the clean hands should apply to the defendants too. If their claims don't
• 1:19:30
  have substance and are damaging, then it does undermine their credibility and status in
• 1:19:35
  the matter. Thank you, Richard, And I think that's it. So
• 1:19:41
  do you have any thank you to one thank you to give? I want
• 1:19:45
  to thank hyper Chicken for putting one hundred dollars through. Thank you, Thank
• 1:19:48
  you hyper Chicken. You've bumped excellent. You've bumped us up to seventy percent
• 1:19:55
  on the fundraiser. So we are now at seventy percent and now seventeen and
• 1:20:00
  ninety five left to go. So we can do this. I know we
• 1:20:03
  can and thank you to everybody who's supported so far, A very generous,
• 1:20:06
  great job doing it earlier in the month. Very much appreciate it. We
• 1:20:10
  still do have a ways to go, and I don't know, I don't
• 1:20:14
  think this constitutes arm twisting, but please do help out. It really takes
• 1:20:17
  a load off my mind. Makes me feel like, you know, what
• 1:20:21
  we are doing matters to people, and they want to invest in it and
• 1:20:25
  make sure we can continue to do it. So feed the Badger dot com
• 1:20:28
  slash support. I guess you know, if I were to say something about
• 1:20:33
  all of this, there is a lot of resistance to the idea that we
• 1:20:41
  have to change this, this narrative about men oppressing women, like everything is
• 1:20:46
  coming out of that. When we exist in a society where we have that
• 1:20:50
  as the predominant narrative, the predominant way we frame the relationship between men and
• 1:20:56
  women, you know, we are seeing the all out of that, like
• 1:21:01
  we're seeing it. We are basically destroyed in a large way our ability to
• 1:21:06
  pair bond, especially when it comes to people who don't meet each other through
• 1:21:13
  like mutual acquaintances. In our increasingly isolated and disconnected word world, people meet
• 1:21:17
  each other through a medium that's very much like Twitter and just sort of as
• 1:21:23
  angry as Twitter, you know, so that those large narratives become very important
• 1:21:28
  whether or not people connect. Do you do you get what I'm saying,
• 1:21:30
  Brian, Yeah, Because and we have constructed this toxic narrative that's impeding the
• 1:21:38
  process of pair bonding. We are experiencing breeding colony collapse. That's what we're
• 1:21:44
  experiencing. And every single time in history when a breeding colony collapses, it
• 1:21:48
  does the same thing inflation, right, mass immigration like unrestricted immigration, So
• 1:21:59
  just just unregulated immigration, that's the way to do it, that's the right
• 1:22:02
  word. Right. It starts to embrace bizarre low like occults, religions,
• 1:22:11
  golden calf religions, right, and it also does the whole castration thing.
• 1:22:17
  And it's like we're doing we're marching through all of those things because our breeding
• 1:22:23
  colony is glass. And the only way to really stop them all because the
• 1:22:27
  politics that created them can't really stop it. And I mean that's all of
• 1:22:31
  the political landscape is to restart the dying star, get the breeding colony to
• 1:22:40
  start turning over again and working again. And that means we have to question
• 1:22:45
  this overarching narrative of how men and women relate, that men oppress women because
• 1:22:50
  that's what's destroying our ability to connect with each other, which it then destroys
• 1:22:56
  our ability to form bonds, which then destroys our ability to to form families,
• 1:23:00
  which then destroys our ability to be a productive and prosperous society. That's
• 1:23:05
  where it starts. And there's not a lot of people as far as I
• 1:23:10
  know, there's almost nobody who says it like this, who explains it like
• 1:23:13
  this, And that is really critical to keep supporting and make sure that we
• 1:23:16
  can continue to do that because, as you can see from the response to
• 1:23:19
  Crowder's divorce, conservatives for the most part, like maybe there's male conservatives who
• 1:23:26
  aren't like this, but they will side with the woman and they will continue
• 1:23:30
  to blame men for the problems that they see in the world, that men
• 1:23:33
  simply have to man up more. Well, no, you cannot have a
• 1:23:40
  society if women have no interest in men, have no desire for men,
• 1:23:44
  and have no expectation of the virtues required to maintain a relationship. It just
• 1:23:48
  doesn't work. You know, you cannot tell men well, okay, so
• 1:23:54
  the problem is men oppress women. Okay, men's authority is terrible for women.
• 1:24:00
  So if men have an opinion or they want something, that's oppression of
• 1:24:03
  women. If men think that they know they are able to give something to
• 1:24:10
  women, then they're actually manipulating women to need them, which is oppression of
• 1:24:14
  women, which is bad. Well, how are men supposed to bring something
• 1:24:17
  to the table because women are the table when they aren't providing for women's needs.
• 1:24:21
  And then the instant they provide for women's needs, what are they doing.
• 1:24:25
  They're oppressing them by making them need them. So we have this entire
• 1:24:30
  mess around the very act of forming relationships. We've constructed a narrative that destroys
• 1:24:35
  the formation of relationships. There's nothing that men can do to change that or
• 1:24:41
  to really face it, except you know, I mean, there is things
• 1:24:44
  that they can do. They can question all of this and start to build
• 1:24:48
  in themselves the boundaries against these narratives. So, of course that's really important
• 1:24:53
  to do. But it's really hard to blame men for this overwhelming social message
• 1:25:00
  that men are terrible and say, well, you got to overcome that.
• 1:25:03
  Well, how how are men supposed to have the social credit of an entire
• 1:25:11
  society like one individual man going up to one individual woman, how is he
• 1:25:15
  supposed to negate the message of all society that he is a net detriment to
• 1:25:21
  her? Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah, Like, we have
• 1:25:27
  to stop this message. We can't just keep saying, well, man up,
• 1:25:30
  there's a limit, there is a limit, right, and man up
• 1:25:36
  and prove your worth even while we're telling you that you're worthless. And this
• 1:25:42
  is the thing that I see about conservatives. I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
• 1:25:45
  I'm gonna bash on them for a bit. I know, em brace yourselves
• 1:25:53
  men to concern. What conservatives like about men is the benefits that men's existence
• 1:26:00
  and virtues provide. They do not seem to care about men themselves. So
• 1:26:06
  the way that I would like in that is conservatives are like the people who
• 1:26:11
  with the golden goose, right, they like the golden egg. They don't
• 1:26:15
  give a fuck about the goose. Right. The problem is we now have
• 1:26:19
  feminists who basically say that, well, yeah, these golden eggs are great,
• 1:26:25
  but they don't come from the goose. The goose is worthless, right,
• 1:26:30
  And the conservatives don't, you know, they agree the goose is worthless,
• 1:26:32
  but you know he's worth something because he gives you. No, he
• 1:26:35
  himself is worth nothing, but the golden eggs that he provides are worth something.
• 1:26:41
  But how does that counter Well, I know, actually the goose is
• 1:26:44
  worthless because they're saying yes, but yes, but yeah, but he gives
• 1:26:47
  us the golden eggs, but nobody but he is worthless, you know,
• 1:26:50
  in and of himself, the goose is absolutely worthless, but the eggs are
• 1:26:55
  valuable. This is what the conservatives have to say to feminists, saying the
• 1:26:59
  goose is worthless, and they're failing because they can't actually argue the point that
• 1:27:03
  the goose is worth something. He does provide value in and of himself.
• 1:27:10
  He is valuable because he created not just because he creates golden eggs, but
• 1:27:14
  because he has the potential of doing so. If you get what I'm saying,
• 1:27:18
  Like, men uniquely provide these things. They are uniquely able to provide
• 1:27:25
  this stuff. Women cannot provide this stuff. And we can't even recognize that.
• 1:27:30
  Conservatives aren't even willing to recognize that that just a man sitting there by
• 1:27:35
  himself is valuable because he has the potential that women do not have. He
• 1:27:43
  has something unique he brings to the world that women do not. They're not
• 1:27:46
  willing to stand behind that and say that and say to feminists, no,
• 1:27:51
  the goose has value in and of himself, or sorry, the gander has
• 1:27:56
  value in and of himself. I was screwing that up, wasn't I?
• 1:27:59
  Oh, yeah, gander, don't lay eggs. Shit, My freaking analogy
• 1:28:01
  is condo crap. Okay, I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah,
• 1:28:05
  anyway, My point is that conservatives like the benefits from men, but
• 1:28:12
  you're not going to get those benefits if you don't protect men. And what
• 1:28:15
  men need protection from is this narrative that they are harmful to society and women,
• 1:28:20
  and that narrative is causing what we're seeing right now, which is the
• 1:28:26
  breakdown of our ability to form Paris bonds, of our ability to form families,
• 1:28:30
  and ultimately the breakdown of the entire breeding colony and all of the mess
• 1:28:34
  that results from that. Okay, and if we don't address that problem,
• 1:28:38
  we're not getting anywhere fast. All right, there you go, Sorry about
• 1:28:42
  the analogy. It broke down, All right, It's fine. Are you
• 1:28:45
  back? Karen? Not yet? Looks like do you want to Yeah?
• 1:28:51
  Do you want to watch this? Suck. The issue with Crowder or the
• 1:28:56
  video, well, I don't. I don't think I need to play that
• 1:28:59
  video. I am displaying it, so I don't. It's not necessary.
• 1:29:03
  I just wanted to give a little bit of a bad summary. Stummary is
• 1:29:08
  yeah, I'll give you some backstory. So Stephen Crowder is a former like
• 1:29:15
  he was a Canadian and they moved to America, and he's a you know,
• 1:29:18
  I guess he would call himself a conservative political commentator, comedian and media
• 1:29:23
  personality. He had his own show on YouTube he still does, called Louder
• 1:29:27
  with Crowder, and it was basically, like, you know, he wanted
• 1:29:30
  to do a comedy show. He wanted to work on on Fox and do
• 1:29:33
  sort of like a talk show type of thing, but he didn't care for
• 1:29:38
  the format and he left ended up leaving Fox News or Fox the station or
• 1:29:43
  the studio to do his own thing on YouTube. And he grew a little
• 1:29:46
  a little piece of the internet right all his own. He has a pretty
• 1:29:54
  big platform and uh he's had. I've been watching him for a number of
• 1:30:01
  years because I liked the quality of his format and I always said, well,
• 1:30:05
  man, if we had a show like this, you know, or
• 1:30:08
  close to it, we'd be doing really well. So I sort of like,
• 1:30:11
  look at the people who are doing stuff as like the thing I'm modeled
• 1:30:15
  on, and one of the things that I thought, and I'm this is
• 1:30:18
  important stuff that I have to set up. So he was the only person
• 1:30:25
  on the on the internet that at the time that spoke to people like Karen
• 1:30:30
  with the platform the size that he had. Karen was a recurring guest on
• 1:30:34
  there, she'd been there a few times when Cassie j was making her film
• 1:30:39
  The Red Pill. He had her on when like no one else either everybody
• 1:30:44
  else would ignore her they didn't know about what she was doing, or they
• 1:30:46
  were openly hostile towards her. And he was one of the people who was
• 1:30:49
  like like, had her on a show and talked to Cassie J. So
• 1:30:53
  for that, I am eternally grateful because Cassie J's movie made a massive impact.
• 1:31:00
  I think that we can't really measure easily, and Steven Crowder like magnifying
• 1:31:05
  that just like he did by talking to Karen is huge, right, And
• 1:31:13
  but there was always this thing where, you know, for a long time
• 1:31:17
  where he would occasionally talk about men's rights activists and I don't know if it
• 1:31:24
  was because he didn't know Karen was one or what, but he was always
• 1:31:27
  he was often dismissive or at least he would say, you know, yeah,
• 1:31:30
  they make some good points, but they're whiny or whatever, kind of
• 1:31:32
  like what Joe Rogan does. And then one day he did an announcement that
• 1:31:42
  he was in the midst of a divorce with his wife or his ex wife,
• 1:31:46
  Hillary Crowder. Hillary Crowder had no online presence as far as we know,
• 1:31:51
  she was basically, like, you know, just some that was somebody
• 1:31:55
  that was his wife that we we never knew who she was. We didn't
• 1:31:58
  even know her name or at least a while, okay, And there were
• 1:32:01
  two kids in this, he had twins, and Stephen Crowder, like Allison
• 1:32:08
  said before, he prided himself on saving himself for the one so that he
• 1:32:13
  would like be sure that it was gonna work and he was gonna get married,
• 1:32:16
  he was gonna have kids with this person, and he was totally fine
• 1:32:19
  with that, and he still ended up going through a messy horse while this
• 1:32:26
  was going on. I'm not sure about the timing on this, but while
• 1:32:29
  this was going on, I think this might be relevant, which is why
• 1:32:31
  I'm bringing it up. He was in a bit of a a let's say,
• 1:32:38
  a kerfuffle between his show A Lotder with Crowder and The Daily Wire.
• 1:32:44
  The Daily Wire was trying to set up a thing where they will work together,
• 1:32:48
  but they had creative differences and this turned into a big thing where,
• 1:32:55
  you know, for people who used to work for Crowder, they they left
• 1:32:58
  his show under questionable circumstances. He had a falling out with all the folks
• 1:33:02
  at Daily Wire. I don't know what it was about, but basically what
• 1:33:08
  happened after that is why this is relevant. We knew he was going through
• 1:33:11
  a divorce, we knew the heat, like after COVID stuff, he had
• 1:33:14
  to relocate his studio. He left California, he went to Texas. I
• 1:33:18
  think that was probably, like you know, with babies and everything, just
• 1:33:24
  kind of like a big old stressful event. And then he had this falling
• 1:33:28
  out with the Daily Wire, and then a bunch of some people quit his
• 1:33:32
  company. So he had this producer slash co host guy named kna Gay.
• 1:33:38
  Jared was his name on the show. His name is Jared Monroe, and
• 1:33:41
  he also had a co host named Dave Landau and I was also a comedian,
• 1:33:45
  and they both left him, you know, sort of unceremoniously, I
• 1:33:48
  guess. And then later we had this thing where Candaeell, who worked at
• 1:34:00
  The Daily Wire, she released a video which is the thing that I'm showing
• 1:34:04
  right here. Essentially it sounded like she was trying to craft a narrative about
• 1:34:11
  Prouder's behavior to his wife Hillary. But from what I'm understanding, Hillary is
• 1:34:16
  the one who reached out to Canvas Owens and this was after the Daily Wire
• 1:34:23
  split, Okay, And I think this is important because there's like there's like
• 1:34:28
  the divorce angle and the family angle and the family court stuff, and then
• 1:34:31
  there seems to be potentially another angle which is sort of like you know,
• 1:34:35
  like there are people that get in on this kind of reputation destruction because of
• 1:34:43
  these other differences on the business side. Right Well, I mean think about
• 1:34:47
  it if you, if you, because because there was a thing that hurt
• 1:34:53
  the reputation of The Daily Wire as well that was a consequence of the split
• 1:34:58
  between Crowder and the Daily win Fire which will I think it was a thing
• 1:35:01
  that never started, but the point is that that was a part of it.
• 1:35:04
  And Hannah someone's comes out with this this camera footage and the in the
• 1:35:13
  in the in the footage, there's an argument between Steven and his wife,
• 1:35:16
  who was very pregnant. So this is while she was pregnant and not when
• 1:35:20
  she had her kids yet. So it's kind of can we just watch it?
• 1:35:24
  Can we just you want me to play it? I can play it.
• 1:35:26
  I'll just play the whole thing then, Okay, I do a boundary?
• 1:35:30
  Are you a boundary? No? You just did? You just did?
• 1:35:33
  I do a boundary? Rule you were not taking a car because if
• 1:35:39
  you refuse to do life with things, then I will go the grocery.
• 1:35:46
  Would us my grilled? I know it's not reasonable. How about you first?
• 1:36:00
  You see I don't mean to make it. No, you're not thinking,
• 1:36:06
  but gonna and I will ask them? Would you right? Give it
• 1:36:15
  a new bird? Okay, Stephen, I can't feeling some constraints like I
• 1:36:23
  can't see it. Listen to me. Listen to me. You want to
• 1:36:26
  walk out right now, Listen to me. I can't go to the gym,
• 1:36:28
  I can't go to my parents, I can't call my friends, I
• 1:36:30
  can't I can't be home. You're gonna take the car and leave me here?
• 1:36:32
  Just think of a box made me. What do you need me to
• 1:36:35
  pick it up? I'll get it. I'll be back from the back.
• 1:36:39
  No, that doesn't work either, or you'll be back from your back those
• 1:36:41
  either. I understand the difference between mone like being set to the setting and
• 1:36:46
  you're gonna get back. Yeah, there's something more behind this. The only
• 1:36:54
  way out of this. It's the only way as it because you you throw
• 1:37:03
  your head, you get Oh my god, this is like one of the
• 1:37:08
  most No, we are at it. I love him, but Stephen,
• 1:37:15
  he's sick. Wait wait, wait, watch it. Okay, wait,
• 1:37:23
  let's choose a second here, all right. So what I'm getting is that
• 1:37:26
  she's taking the car and she's basically leaving him without the ability to go anywhere.
• 1:37:32
  Yeah, he's concerned that he's got like because he's you know, he
• 1:37:35
  runs, he's running on a tight schedule. I know that one of the
• 1:37:39
  things that some of the people who left him, Dave Landau complained that,
• 1:37:43
  like, you know, they were just like on on ongoing, going,
• 1:37:45
  going, right. But I think if he is this kind of person that's
• 1:37:50
  sort of like it's not it doesn't make him a bad person. It just
• 1:37:54
  means he has this this character trait, right, and uh, yeah,
• 1:37:59
  so I clute in on when I was watching this, and I don't know
• 1:38:01
  if this has been addressed. Maybe you have heard it is he basically said,
• 1:38:10
  he alluded to something that was controlling that he has to be by the
• 1:38:15
  second so he has to account for his seconds while she gets to say I'll
• 1:38:20
  be back sometime. So I don't know what's behind that. I would like
• 1:38:25
  to know because I don't think i've heard that mentioned. To me, it
• 1:38:29
  sounds like she's expecting him to abide by her schedule, but not the reverse,
• 1:38:35
  Do you get what I'm saying? And yeah, at that, well,
• 1:38:41
  I'm like, I need little more information about what's going on there before
• 1:38:45
  I make a judgment. And I'm like, first of all, we have
• 1:38:48
  like about like maybe seventy seconds left. You want me to play the rest
• 1:38:53
  of it? Well, I did want to say one other thing, Holy
• 1:38:56
  shit, I hope that my arguments with my husband never get leaked internet,
• 1:39:00
  because, believe me, they are not this corcial. And yeah, I
• 1:39:03
  know that she's making this like she's making these claims of abuse, but on
• 1:39:09
  here, I'm not really seeing anything. I'm seeing an argument. Yeah,
• 1:39:15
  and yeah, it's an argument. It's an argument. She is she is
• 1:39:17
  claiming abuse. But let let's play the rest of it. When he says
• 1:39:20
  you aren't doing wifely things and then I'll go do them myself, I don't
• 1:39:26
  know what's what preceded that, So okay, let's yeah, well that's the
• 1:39:29
  thing, right, that's the thing that's a little bit fishy. But let's
• 1:39:30
  play the rest of it. Okay, what you need to be dead?
• 1:39:35
  And I need some space because you need you just stuck a maybe for a
• 1:39:39
  little bit. Okay. I love you. I love you getty much.
• 1:39:44
  I don't love that's the big buck. I've never received less. And the
• 1:39:47
  fact is when I don't look I need to do ABCD. You just forgot
• 1:39:50
  it. You know no, But I love you. Okay, put on.
• 1:39:58
  That's not fair. It's not fair. It's just Hillary. You're right
• 1:40:01
  right, then become someone what's dane and worthy, a life worth no matter
• 1:40:11
  the life. I didn't say, No, Hillary, don'llorry. Come on
• 1:40:14
  now, I'm not gonna engage. I'm not gonna gage you more. I'm
• 1:40:16
  gonna go. I'll get texting you need, I'll get you the t I
• 1:40:23
  M. I love you. I'm committed to you? Are I'm not enged.
• 1:40:33
  I'm not trying to committed enough to do those things. You're not committed
• 1:40:36
  to anything. You're not committed to anything. You just said, I love
• 1:40:41
  you. I'm committed to walk the dogs front and gloves, walk the dog
• 1:40:47
  do anyway? Are you committed to do anything? I'm gonna just the dog
• 1:40:54
  hold on some gloves. Are you committed enough to get the medication? Is?
• 1:40:57
  Do you take? Take that? Right? All? Right? Now?
• 1:41:05
  It says we don't hear this part, but it says as the crowder's
• 1:41:10
  head inside, Steven gets angrier and angrier, and by his own admission,
• 1:41:13
  screams I will fuck you up at his pregnant wife Hillary, who then flees
• 1:41:15
  their home. So you get the end. And so we have this clip
• 1:41:18
  three minutes, three and a half minutes long. I think out of there,
• 1:41:23
  there's no The thing is is that this is like a ring camera.
• 1:41:27
  These things are on twenty four seven, yes if I I mean I read
• 1:41:30
  that everything else was deleted by his wife. Yeah, so this is this
• 1:41:34
  is the most condemning thing that they have. So everything else that brought them
• 1:41:40
  to this point is condemning. And what's interesting to me is she gets what
• 1:41:44
  she wants at the end, like they're framing it as she flees the house,
• 1:41:47
  but she's been I'm going to take the car and leave, and he's
• 1:41:50
  like, could you do these chores? And she's like, uh, yeah,
• 1:41:54
  I'll do this stuff. And he's like, but you're leaving me in
• 1:41:57
  alert you're boxing me in because I won't have the car to be able to
• 1:42:00
  do the things that I need to do, and she's just like she just
• 1:42:02
  goes, I love you, and then she does the I'm put upon voice.
• 1:42:05
  But at the end of the day, she got what she wanted.
• 1:42:09
  She got the car, and she left, and she was using I love
• 1:42:12
  you as a means to stonewall. That's my analysis of the situation, Like
• 1:42:16
  I don't know anything else that's going on, but I need to know more.
• 1:42:19
  Well, okay, so we don't have it. It's so because,
• 1:42:23
  yeah, go ahead. It's a flawed analysis because I don't know what happened
• 1:42:27
  after and I only heard of this caption of I only have the word of
• 1:42:31
  this caption after, and I don't know what happened before. You will like
• 1:42:35
  to point out that if this is abuse, then me and my husband have
• 1:42:41
  killed each other thirty billion times since. Okay, okay, you know what
• 1:42:47
  I used to do when of my kids were getting slightly annoying, Can you
• 1:42:51
  go, honey, because everybody can hear you talking to your mother now,
• 1:42:59
  I used to I used to say, I will rip your fucking arm off
• 1:43:05
  and beat you with it, yeah, and can with it? Yeah no,
• 1:43:13
  And they would like be like, Okay, that's our cue to like
• 1:43:15
  tone it down a little, be a little less noisy, be a little
• 1:43:19
  less obnoxious. Okay, yeah. No. The only time one of my
• 1:43:24
  kids was actually really scared of me was when he turned my computer off before
• 1:43:30
  auto save on a word. Right, So I had just I had just
• 1:43:36
  written twelve thousand words that made me ball my eyes out right, twelve thousand
• 1:43:44
  words of fiction that had made me you shut up. I'm on the radio.
• 1:43:50
  I'll fucking kill you. I'll rip your arm off and beat you with
• 1:43:54
  it. Will you fuck him up? I will fuck you up. I'll
• 1:43:58
  fucking murder you. Five hundred thousand dollars, honey, that's how much your
• 1:44:03
  life insurance is worth. Anyway, he's talking to his mom and he's telling
• 1:44:11
  me to be quiet. But anyway, like I the one time and so
• 1:44:17
  I had just gotten done writing like twelve thousand words, right, twelve thousand
• 1:44:23
  words hadn't hit saved yet. I was like emotionally exhausted. He just killed
• 1:44:27
  two killed off two of my favorite characters, two of the in the most
• 1:44:31
  romantic and tragic way possible. Oh my god. They were anti heroes and
• 1:44:38
  they were so in love with each other, and it was just such a
• 1:44:40
  tragedy. And you know, he he would have died avenging her, but
• 1:44:45
  he didn't. He was taken captive and then some other noble woman came in
• 1:44:53
  and like put him out of his misery before he could be tortured. And
• 1:44:57
  it was just like, oh god. And I was just like I was
• 1:45:00
  exhausted. I was emotionally exhausted. I'd spent like five hours writing this and
• 1:45:08
  my youngest in a diaper, comes toddling up and turns my computer off.
• 1:45:18
  I would not blame you if you had I and I just looked at him.
• 1:45:25
  I once I realized what had happened and that I lost twelve thousand words,
• 1:45:29
  right, and my face is like soaking wet. I looked at him
• 1:45:32
  and I said, right in the eye, and I said, you will
• 1:45:39
  never do that. Again, and that was the only time he was ever
• 1:45:46
  scared of me. So I got, I got, I got like fifteen
• 1:45:53
  minutes max, because then I got to pick Lindsay up. But it's like
• 1:45:57
  it's six o'clock now here, so I'm gonna try and like sort of get
• 1:46:02
  to the rest of this. So this was later discovered that this was in
• 1:46:10
  fact the most damning like part of the video that was like used right,
• 1:46:15
  But but Hanna so Owans was one hundred percent behind it. She was like,
• 1:46:20
  he's a monster, he is abusive. She's look at how pregnant she
• 1:46:25
  is, look at how what she's how she's talking. But then again,
• 1:46:30
  you know some people think that, well, let's say I got this super
• 1:46:32
  child read it out really quick. ZARANX gives us five bucks. Thank you,
• 1:46:35
  ZARYANKX, and he says, if you listen to Hillary in the video,
• 1:46:40
  you can hear the clues that might have you think she had been planning
• 1:46:43
  this interaction to have this video. That whole I love you, your abusive
• 1:46:47
  or whatever it was clued me in that she knew what she was saying,
• 1:46:51
  affirmation of her is as the dutiful wife and Stephen being the unreasonable individual.
• 1:46:57
  Then the fact that the video that should not last beyond a few months survived
• 1:47:01
  over a year to be released to the public. Yes, because this was
• 1:47:05
  while she was still pregnant with twins. And those twins are they're over like
• 1:47:10
  a year old, they might even be two years old by now, so
• 1:47:13
  this is like significantly later. She never filed any reports, she didn't go
• 1:47:17
  to police, she didn't do anything. But everyone just bought into this.
• 1:47:21
  Right, then comes be possible that both parties were unreasonable. It's possible.
• 1:47:29
  I can guarante, I can guarantee you right that if I was pregnant,
• 1:47:33
  heavily pregnant with twins, I'd be really fucking cranky. Yeah, sure,
• 1:47:40
  right, and I would expect my partner to give me all kinds of freaking
• 1:47:45
  leeway to be like as bitchy and abusive and like nasty, just like you
• 1:47:51
  witnessed here just today. You know, when my husband is like, will
• 1:47:59
  you shut up? Beer, mean, you're interrupting my phone call with my
• 1:48:02
  mom, and it's like go to another well retard So right, yeah,
• 1:48:08
  so the the so then so Canas puts out this thing and it's like this
• 1:48:12
  big thing, and then even crowder I forgot what he said, but he
• 1:48:15
  put out a statement about it, and you know, but it doesn't matter.
• 1:48:21
  He addressed it. I just can't remember the details. It wasn't really
• 1:48:24
  anything mind blowing. Everyone on the internet was on was on Crowder's ass,
• 1:48:29
  so like, this is what I'm saying, like, this isn't a conservative
• 1:48:31
  liberal thing. This is a woman thing. And it was. It's a
• 1:48:34
  it's a ginocentric woman thing because the conservative the supposed conservative women from from Canis
• 1:48:42
  Owns to Sydney Watson to Lauren Chen to fucking Laurence Southern, they all like
• 1:48:45
  the mask falls and they're all team women and they're all against him and they
• 1:48:49
  don't care about the context. Nothing else matters. He was mean a meani
• 1:48:54
  mean mean pants. And the only woman that was actually on his side was
• 1:48:59
  Pearl, and she had been like she thought the whole thing was fishy from
• 1:49:02
  the get go. She was like, you know, why is why do
• 1:49:05
  we only have this one little clip? Why is it coming out now?
• 1:49:09
  Why does she never file any reports? Why didn't she go to police?
• 1:49:13
  Like you know, sempting us from that too, because I'm pretty sure we
• 1:49:15
  also really get well. I addressed it, but I don't think we did
• 1:49:18
  like a full thing on it. And I'm sure we would have. I'm
• 1:49:21
  not saying we wouldn't have. I'm just saying that she was the only one
• 1:49:25
  that was vocally talking about it. You know. It's it's because it's because
• 1:49:29
  you don't know, you don't know, and you don't know. Well,
• 1:49:30
  we don't. We didn't know. Yes, what followed from it, and
• 1:49:33
  it's like it's like, okay, well, uh, she was being a
• 1:49:40
  whiner and he was being a dick, and okay, people are whiners and
• 1:49:45
  people are dicks, and well, what's interesting to me is ultimately who won
• 1:49:50
  the encounter. She did. She won that encounter she got. That's what
• 1:49:55
  I'm saying. Yeah, and the month, well, that's what I was
• 1:49:59
  going to say, talking about the divorce, let me finish. I'm not
• 1:50:02
  talking about the divorce. I'm talking about the encounter we just watched in this
• 1:50:05
  video. She wanted to take the car. He didn't want her to take
• 1:50:10
  the car because he needed it for so whatever reason, you know, And
• 1:50:13
  she took the car. And the end of the day, she took the
• 1:50:15
  car. That is not the actions of somebody who's subordinate in the relationship and
• 1:50:19
  what I heard, And yes, he was being really red pilly and like
• 1:50:25
  overbearing. He wasn't doing it in a very charming He was being a bit
• 1:50:30
  of a dick, But he was trying to tell her that she needs to
• 1:50:34
  step up more. That's what I was getting from that, that he was
• 1:50:40
  upset because he felt like too much was put on him. Okay, that
• 1:50:44
  is a perfectly legitimate way of saying Now, guys don't say it like that.
• 1:50:47
  And I know that this is this is something that we could really improve
• 1:50:51
  our relationships men and women by getting away from strategies and going towards understanding.
• 1:50:56
  But nobody wants to do that because there's money and understanding and pain. But
• 1:51:00
  anyway, he approached this in a way that is only going to make it
• 1:51:03
  worse percent. I agree that with that, he should or could have done
• 1:51:10
  something of explaining how stressed he is, the emotional situation she's putting him in,
• 1:51:16
  sort of bring it to her level. Men don't like to do that.
• 1:51:18
  They like to appeal to things like hierarchy, to principle, to your
• 1:51:25
  wifely duties, to I don't know, this relationship with God, to the
• 1:51:29
  ten commandments, whatever else. That's the way men talk. They don't say,
• 1:51:32
  hey, dear, I'm bewhelmed. I need you to step up.
• 1:51:39
  Yeah, I mean women understand that. And then part of it is also
• 1:51:42
  because you get the wrong woman, any indication that you are overwhelmed or you're
• 1:51:48
  vulnerable, and she's out the door and all on the nearest cock within thirty
• 1:51:54
  seconds. Well. The other thing is too, is that like, in
• 1:51:58
  all likelihood, they've had many any arguments in the past, and none of
• 1:52:02
  them were as bad. And I put that in quotes as this one because
• 1:52:06
  otherwise we'd know about it. So like this is if this is like him,
• 1:52:11
  probably like and it's worse, right, But again that's like that whole
• 1:52:16
  thing, like we don't know, so we can't really, like, you
• 1:52:20
  know, say anything definitive. But I'm just I'm just gonna say I once
• 1:52:27
  threatened to kill my husband right in front of a bank represent we're representative.
• 1:52:31
  Yeah, and I will tell you this, like me and Jonathan get in
• 1:52:35
  periodic screaming matches with each other, you know, yeah, oh yeah.
• 1:52:41
  The dog just gets on the couch and he goes into the other room,
• 1:52:44
  and I feel bad because I'm like, are we traumatizing the dog? But
• 1:52:46
  we we were. It's much more animated than this, much more yeah.
• 1:52:51
  Oh yeah, and then no, no, you go through you get in
• 1:52:54
  that head one with my husband. You get in that headspace where everything goes
• 1:52:59
  and you're like, I'm gonna get a divorce, and you know, you
• 1:53:01
  blah blah blah. It's like and it and you know, you get it
• 1:53:03
  out of your system ten minutes later, you're fine. Yeah, my mom
• 1:53:08
  used to. My mom used to like stump around and threaten to divorce my
• 1:53:11
  dad, and my dad would like look at me and my kids, and
• 1:53:15
  he'd like put his hands together in prayer and look up at God and say,
• 1:53:17
  please let her mean it this time. Yeah, yeah, you know.
• 1:53:23
  And it's it's like these this generation I had the teak talking stick offense,
• 1:53:29
  this generation. Do you do you just be a little bit more forgiving,
• 1:53:33
  you know, I think you would get a lot further because I think
• 1:53:36
  Crowder is like fifteen years Yeah, just be a little tougher, like Jesus
• 1:53:43
  Christ, don't don't be porcelain. I mean, there is a point at
• 1:53:45
  which things become abuse. Yes, but this is not it. This is
• 1:53:49
  a disagreement. And I was she was really freaking annoying the crap out of
• 1:53:55
  me with that huffing and that Oh I'm such a martyr. It's like,
• 1:53:58
  oh, yeah, but you got your way at the end, So I
• 1:54:00
  think that says a lot. Yeah. Yeah, And yet that's the clip
• 1:54:04
  that gets released, right, So then okay, So then it's quiet for
• 1:54:09
  a bit. And this is the most recent development is one of Crowder's former
• 1:54:15
  employees, Jared Monroe, also known as not Gay Jared. Oh Jared,
• 1:54:19
  not kay Jared, Yeah, not kay Jared. He comes out with this
• 1:54:24
  like free Jared Monroe thing. It's like a fifteen minute video. I'm not
• 1:54:30
  going to play the whole thing. I'll just show you what it looks like
• 1:54:32
  where he talks about how Stephen Crowder was very litigious with him and did an
• 1:54:38
  NDA and he can't talk about stuff and and he's like worried about his family
• 1:54:44
  or whatever. But we don't really know the details of this. Yeah,
• 1:54:49
  but this is like this is a pretense to further sort of like you know,
• 1:54:58
  I guess you could say tack Crowder through you know, this like another
• 1:55:02
  it's like a I don't want to say it's a SOB story because I don't
• 1:55:05
  know if it's true. The truth is like this NBA thing is a completely
• 1:55:10
  different animal. Okay, Like there are people who have left out of Crowder
• 1:55:14
  and they didn't have a great experience. They've landau, I guess Jared Monroe.
• 1:55:18
  But then there are people who left and they they they did not have
• 1:55:23
  any complaints, like Quorter Black Garrett, who said, look, I just
• 1:55:27
  didn't want to do politics anymore. I still get along with those guys.
• 1:55:30
  I like them. And then you got like Owen Benjamin, who you know,
• 1:55:34
  dislikes Crowder as a person, but defended him in this particular case because
• 1:55:41
  what Pearl revealed and what what had revealed was that Jared there's like texts or
• 1:55:49
  conversations where Jared says, we have to get him away from those kids.
• 1:55:55
  So apparently Prouder wants custody of the children and in this divorce, and Jared
• 1:56:04
  is helping his ex wife get the kids, and Pearl is like, what
• 1:56:11
  the hell does that have to do with anything? And so and there,
• 1:56:14
  And so I wanted to like show Pearl's comments on this because they're like the
• 1:56:23
  among the very few that are at least I again, I'm not I'm not
• 1:56:28
  taking a side in this. I'm not taking a side in this, but
• 1:56:31
  I think that because I do think that what would be best is for crowded
• 1:56:36
  to like, you know, lift the nda. Let's hear what Jared has
• 1:56:41
  is not supposed to say. I don't know, but Jared did choose to
• 1:56:44
  sign it, and so you know there is there is that, but that's
• 1:56:46
  a different animal. But like using that to say that this, you know
• 1:56:51
  that he and then getting like this guy involved with you know, taking the
• 1:56:57
  kids away. That is kind of crazy. And on top of that,
• 1:57:00
  Tim Poole, let me see if I can find the thing here. Tim
• 1:57:05
  Poole said that Prouder is effectively paying for his ex's legal fees because he's paying
• 1:57:17
  twenty five grand in child support. Yeah, trying to find it. Yeah
• 1:57:27
  what yeah, alimony and child support he's paying twenty yeah yeah, yeah,
• 1:57:33
  win a month, twenty five grand a month. The new story is how
• 1:57:39
  when women become homemakers, they become destitute because the I don't know, the
• 1:57:43
  courts don't award the money. Well here's your counter example, friends, twenty
• 1:57:47
  five grand. You know. And the funny thing is that that women will
• 1:57:51
  or a lot of women will turn around to talk about the wage gap.
• 1:57:55
  Well, here we see an example why it exists. Twenty five grand child
• 1:58:00
  support an alimony. Okay, I I don't necessarily disagree with this, Okay,
• 1:58:04
  this is this is what I got into with with people in the past,
• 1:58:10
  right when they like want to talk about you know, Kobe Bryant or
• 1:58:15
  you know Tiger Woods or or whatever. Right, these like insane divorce settlements
• 1:58:19
  right with these extremely and you have you know, all these conservative people who
• 1:58:25
  are like that's insane. Right, It's like, yeah, no, I
• 1:58:29
  don't care about those guys because they can afford it. I don't care about
• 1:58:33
  them. You care what I care about the little guy. I care about
• 1:58:38
  the the fry cook. Right, that's paying seven seven hundred dollars a month
• 1:58:46
  in child support while he's earning twenty two thousand dollars a month in income.
• 1:58:54
  Right, And he's paying seven hundred dollars out of his gross income, right,
• 1:58:59
  not even and not even after taxes. And she's not paying a freaking
• 1:59:04
  diamond taxes on that income. Right. Okay. So that's who I'm worried
• 1:59:10
  about now. And I can understand the idea of family maintenance, the whole
• 1:59:16
  idea of equalizing the income, because if you have one rich parent and one
• 1:59:21
  poor parent, and the children are in the custody of the poorer but more
• 1:59:28
  fit parent, and then the wealthier, unfit parent, he gets to show
• 1:59:34
  them a good time, and you know, he buys them all kinds of
• 1:59:36
  things, and he gives them all kinds of perks and all of that stuff.
• 1:59:41
  My sister had to go through this and she's not poor by any means,
• 1:59:46
  but she's less poorer than her eggs, and you know, like she
• 1:59:51
  wasn't able to take her their daughter, took hers friends and all this shit,
• 2:00:00
  right, Like, so you want to equalize the incomes, right,
• 2:00:04
  Okay, I can get that, but but yeah, no, the idea
• 2:00:10
  that this woman is like undergoing any kind of hardship right now is stupid.
• 2:00:15
  Yeah, well, and go for what you want. Yeah. So Pearl
• 2:00:17
  was trying to use this opportunity, like as an opportunity to talk about something
• 2:00:21
  broader, which is what I wanted to do. Like I said, what's
• 2:00:25
  going on with prouder specific situation? I can't speak to it. I don't
• 2:00:30
  know enough about it. He may very well be guilty of everything that his
• 2:00:33
  ex wife is claiming. It's possible, right, all of this, it's
• 2:00:36
  possible. No, No, I know the evidence isn't strong. But I'm
• 2:00:41
  saying is is that, like we if we end up, if we get
• 2:00:44
  caught up in trying to prove or disprove any of that, then we're losing
• 2:00:47
  the broader picture here, which is that marriage or men it's dangerous no matter
• 2:00:55
  what, right, and that this is something that people in general have to
• 2:01:00
  come to terms with. And a lot of this has to do with the
• 2:01:02
  way women act when one of the sisters are in trouble. Right, So,
• 2:01:10
  you know, I like Candice Owens on a lot of stuff. I
• 2:01:12
  do, honestly, I like like the what that she stands for stuff,
• 2:01:15
  But she is still a woman. And when like this whole thing broke,
• 2:01:20
  she immediately saw that video and was like, he's a monster. I'm gonna
• 2:01:24
  run with this and Pearl, you know, she actually references in one of
• 2:01:31
  her responses the book How to Destroy a Man. And and it's the thing
• 2:01:36
  like when if Hillary Crowder was thinking about getting a divorce, even if like
• 2:01:42
  it, like maybe she was unhappy for whatever reason, doesn't matter, and
• 2:01:45
  she decided to like counsel someone, maybe she was seeing a therapist, maybe
• 2:01:49
  she was doing marriage counseling. I have no idea, but if she like
• 2:01:55
  came across a lawyer that works in the family courts, that that's what these
• 2:02:00
  guys do. These lawyers, they will give you every Stingy'll tell you,
• 2:02:03
  look, you can take all of his shit, you can take his kids.
• 2:02:06
  All you got to do is like do this or that. Right,
• 2:02:09
  And I've seen it, and we know people if we've had people on the
• 2:02:13
  show that have talked about the predatory nature of divorce courts and what they you
• 2:02:17
  know that they are there to essentially do this, and there are rules and
• 2:02:23
  there are books. They're just like, this isn't hidden, this is out
• 2:02:27
  in the open, right, So if this creates an incentive, yeah,
• 2:02:32
  then this creates an incentive in women to just say, well, you know
• 2:02:36
  what, I could work on the marriage. I could you know, honor
• 2:02:41
  the vows and do my best, or I could just use this system that's
• 2:02:45
  in place. Hell, he'll be paying for my legal fees because I'll have
• 2:02:49
  him giving me money. Right. And so Pearl talks about this, and
• 2:02:55
  this is a couple of her tweets that I thought were pretty decent crafting allegations.
• 2:02:59
  Keep it mind that the allegations you craft for the damn online method will
• 2:03:02
  be presented as listings on Internet search engine results pages, the results you see
• 2:03:08
  when you search for something via Google or Being for example. No, this
• 2:03:12
  is not the right thing she's talking about, Like, how they can I
• 2:03:15
  just get in here for a sec. I want to point out something.
• 2:03:17
  That video that I saw is sort of reminiscent of remember the video that went
• 2:03:21
  the rounds with Amber Heard and Johnny Depp. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
• 2:03:26
  sure. A lot of people who hate Crowder politically right, they do.
• 2:03:30
  Yeah, well, even people on his That's what I'm saying. That
• 2:03:32
  Daily Wire don't like him. That's what I'm saying, even people on his
• 2:03:35
  side. Conservatives, no offense. The Conservatives now have an invested interest to
• 2:03:40
  make it his fault because then they can defend the whole process and say,
• 2:03:45
  there's nothing that we need to fix about this situation. We just need to
• 2:03:49
  tell men to man up more, because obviously Crowder didn't man up enough to
• 2:03:54
  prevent his relationship from imploding. And again, this is three minutes out of
• 2:03:59
  contact. There's whole probably hours and hours and hours of footage that didn't make
• 2:04:03
  the cut. So this is the highlight reel of how awful Steve Crowder is,
• 2:04:09
  Steve Crowders, how awful I am? Highlight reel doesn't even make like
• 2:04:14
  the b roll in My life. Sidn't even make the b roll of like
• 2:04:20
  me just screaming at my husband on air just instantly. Yeah, No,
• 2:04:26
  it doesn't like ago. We have now Karen has now abused her husband well
• 2:04:30
  more than Crowder abused his wife. This is the highlight reel of of the
• 2:04:36
  of the abusive crowd abusive Crowder a season or like a narrative. Like I
• 2:04:45
  said, it sort of reminds me of Amber heard getting her own little highlight
• 2:04:48
  reel of Johnny how abusive Johnny Depp is? And again everybody was like,
• 2:04:54
  oh, he's slamming, he's so threatening. And yet when you look at
• 2:04:58
  that, and you do it, look at it in contact. He's upset
• 2:05:00
  with her and just in general because she's her behavior, general behaviors. Well
• 2:05:06
  yeah, but what's really upsetting him is he's just his mother has died.
• 2:05:11
  He's learned that a bunch of people have stolen from him. We don't know
• 2:05:14
  the context of this, we don't know how much how much frustration maybe crust
• 2:05:18
  Cowder, Cruster cowder, crowder, God, that name is really bad for
• 2:05:25
  my speech. Prouder. We don't know how much frustration has been built up
• 2:05:30
  with it. Oh, we don't know. We don't. Well, it's
• 2:05:33
  like, no, I'm telling you that he it was stressful leading up to
• 2:05:38
  that moment because again, we had he was in California doing his shows.
• 2:05:44
  Then we had COVID and we had lockdowns, he had to relocate, We
• 2:05:48
  had the Summer of Love, like, and then he was getting demonetized on
• 2:05:53
  YouTube and remonetized and demonetized again. So there were all kinds of problems.
• 2:05:57
  I could see how he was under a tremendous amount of stress. I mean,
• 2:06:00
  I think it's obvious, Like and again I'm not I'm not simping for
• 2:06:03
  him. I'm telling you, like, you can see the timing of everything,
• 2:06:08
  and when you take all of that and and the fact that he just
• 2:06:10
  started a new family two kids on the way, twins, I mean I
• 2:06:15
  could see it's stressful. Right, So I will say that, Yeah,
• 2:06:20
  go ahead, all right, Well, I was just gonna say there's a
• 2:06:24
  there's a lot of stuff I disagree with Pearl about her approach. I think
• 2:06:29
  that she's like maybe maybe needed making needless hostility, but I appreciate the fact
• 2:06:36
  that she sticks up for men. Well yeah, I mean yeah, well,
• 2:06:42
  no one else is going to do I mean, other than exactly,
• 2:06:44
  there aren't many people who are going to do it, and and I appreciate
• 2:06:47
  that. Go ahead, I like. I like Pearl, I don't.
• 2:06:53
  I don't think she's perfect, but I do like her. I don't think
• 2:06:57
  Steven Crowder is perfect. I do like him. There are certain people who,
• 2:07:04
  over the last couple of years have made me rethink, you know,
• 2:07:15
  whether I like them or not, right, But but yeah, no,
• 2:07:21
  Pearl, Pearls. Pearls generally, I think I like because I think she's
• 2:07:29
  everything. It seems authentic at least, not be like, well, she's
• 2:07:35
  she's not perfect, but she's also not like displaying her cleavage and then telling
• 2:07:42
  people I really don't like being objectified. Mm hmm, yeah, yeah,
• 2:07:47
  well I think way would. I would would like sort of say I disagree
• 2:07:53
  with because I always bring up how this situation isn't great for women, and
• 2:07:58
  like, I mean, there's there's other stuff that I would bring up about
• 2:08:01
  the women, like the more female point of view that I hope would be
• 2:08:05
  giving more context for everything that's happening. And I don't think she's she doesn't
• 2:08:11
  have to be interested in that, because there does need to be somebody out
• 2:08:15
  there who's just like goes Ham for defending men, protecting men, being on
• 2:08:20
  men's side, and sometimes she doesn't do that, I admit too. You
• 2:08:22
  know, there's some some places where apparently she's been skeptical about men who've expressed
• 2:08:28
  concern, you know, being sexually abused. Although there might be a context
• 2:08:31
  that just a hold over from every all of the things that sexual abuse has
• 2:08:37
  suddenly consumed, like has become a huge thing. Maybe she's concerned about that.
• 2:08:41
  But it's good that she kept the skepticism on the claims against Crowder.
• 2:08:48
  That's a good thing, you know, somebody needs to anyway, Is there
• 2:08:52
  anything further, Brian, Well, I just want to read a couple of
• 2:08:56
  people's tweets about this, so we have like a sense Karen RAN's got to
• 2:09:00
  go so fun. Yeah, don't apologize to me. I'm desperate to leave.
• 2:09:05
  So okay. So, Richard Cooper tweeted, Stephen Crowder is trending due
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  to his divorce. I don't give a fuck about drama between them. That's
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  how I feel. But when the dust settles, watch how bad Crowder gets
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  fucked. In family law trad con women are no different. Give a woman
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  incentive to leverage family law for financial gain, and they will use it.
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  John Fitzgerald, also known as Actual Justice Warrior, says, Crowder seems happy
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  here with his lawyer. I'm curious if they settle the case through mediation.
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  If so, I look forward to Stephen revealing how much greedy Hillary, which
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  he puts in quotes, took from him since they were pretending the twenty five
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  k a month is not for lawyers. I'm assuming it's way more right.
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  Then we have Mike Cernovich, so who says, if you think Crowder's divorce
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  is messy, go intern at a will of wills and trust law office for
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  a week and watch adult children destroy everything over a house nobody wants to live
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  in and isn't even worth anything to sell. Alexander Oakes says to the people
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  defending Crowder, which is more likely not Actually more people are defending Hillary than
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  Crowder that I've seen that Stephen Crowder is a piece of shit, or that
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  spend computer. Dave Landau Quarter Black Garrett, not Gay Jarrett, and all
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  of Crowder's longtime friends as a daily Wire, his wife, old friend,
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  Owen Benjamin, and Cannie Owens are all just liars and sociopaths. But the
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  truth is is that quarter Black Garrett and Owen Benjamin have come out in his
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  defense, and Owen Benjamin doesn't like him, but he stands on principle and
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  says you shouldn't come after somebody's kids, so which I had to admire.
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  Tim Poole said that he sides with Crowder on this. He said, Roder
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  has to pay twenty five thousand in child support that his ex wife uses to
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  pay lawyers to go after him. He has to fund his own destruction.
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  How fuck is us divorce court? Okay, that was sim retweeting gerald A.
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  He got community noted for this, But I don't know if that means
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  that it's untrue or what. I don't know what that means, but I'm
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  not going to ignore it. And then there was one by Pearl that I
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  thought was pretty good. Well, Tim Poole, So Laurence Southern right.
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  Lauren Southern says, yes, he's launched extraordinary litigious lawsuits against her and family
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  that she cannot afford because she quit her job to be a stay at home
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  mother. They actually have a nanny though, so I don't know if that
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  matters, but it's not like she was doing a lot of work. He
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  also then went for full custody of the kids, but thankfully she was awarded
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  some funds to prevent herself from becoming homeless and having her children taken. If
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  you understood how much she's spending on lawyers, you'd know she's spending every cent
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  of that defending herself. Should stay at home wives be able to have their
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  children taken from them and left homeless if their husband is extremely wealthy, or
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  should they be given a sliver of money of their husband spending that their husband
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  is spending on lawyers to defend themselves. So, uh, you know,
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  it would just be would be erased if we just had presumpt automatic presumption of
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  joint custody. Yeah, well kids shared custody, and kids would cease to
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  be a bargaining chip in relationships. And but you know like that, let's
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  honestly, all of this fight would go away if we had that. But
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  Anthony Bryan Logan, who is another commentator, says Stephen crowd's paying his strange
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  wife twenty thousand dollars a month into support during the divorce is predictable. Traditional
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  conservative guys with money who want their wife to stay at home will go through
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  the same thing when the divorce happens, which it will fifty percent of the
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  time. Okay, I wanted to say, abl is I'm subscribed to him?
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  Yeah, and you see the amount. I like abl too. The
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  amount that she's receiving is probably like a provisional support. Like it's just an
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  order in the introm right, is that not a thing? I don't know.
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  I don't know the details of this, so don't I don't want to
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  say it's no, no, it's it's they haven't had their entire divorce settlement.
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  This is just an interim order, I'm sure. So Pearl made a
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  tweet. Pearl made a tweet saying, you guys are not going to understand
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  till later. This was earlier. But I will bet money this is orchestrated
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  by the ex wife. There are details missing. Why was she why was
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  he sent the original case and ceased and to sist now he is asking for
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  donations. Something is not adding up. And that was in response to Jerem
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  Moro's thing where he came forward right, And then Sidney Watson also replies to
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  Pearl and says, Pearl, what is the overall conclusion? Like, honestly,
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  this is all Twitter drama. What is no I know? But what
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  I get that Allison, I'm just saying that we're seeing We're seeing team woman.
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  That That's what I'm saying, Like Sidney Watson, Lauren Southern, Lauren
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  Chen, They're they're cannas owns. These are these are supposedly trad women.
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  But they become feminists when when the when the when the fucking rubber hits the
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  road, they become feminists. Ryan, they are not feminists. They are
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  traditional women, okay, as when the man exists to protect hide for the
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  woman. Alimony is not an invention of feminists. It's existed since Biblical times.
• 2:14:37
  You leave your wife, you divorce your wife. Right if you divorce
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  her without cause, if if or if you were the cause of the divorce,
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  right, you get to pay for her for the rest of your life
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  in the manner to which she has become accustomed. And that's that. That's
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  a concernervative position is conervative. It's super traditional. The idea that men exist
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  to provide and protect them women and have no value outside of that, even
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  as fathers, even as being involved in their children's lives. That is a
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  conservative position, and in fact conservative states are worse for custody for men.
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  Rick Scott interested and I and interestingly they're worse. But generally I'm generally Republican.
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  But Rick Scott, who was governor of Florida until he ended up in
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  the Senate as a Senator for Florida right. Two times he vetoed lifetime alimony
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  reform right bills that had seventy to eighty percent popular support right in the state
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  and had passed both houses and landed on his desk right as governor of Florida,
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  and he said, no, it's too soon to end lifetime alimony.
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  He's a Republican conservative. And you know who convinced him to do that.
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  You know who pushed him over the edge, just gave him that little nudge.
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  Yeah, the National Organization for Women Feminists, Right, they get in
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  bed with each other all the fucking time. As long as you're on team
• 2:16:28
  woman, you can't lose yep. And then they forced The funny thing is
• 2:16:33
  is they've forced people to make This is something that occurred to me. You
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  know, I was on Twitter once. Yes, I also go on Twitter
• 2:16:41
  and engage in drama. Brian I am, I am guilty of the same
• 2:16:46
  sin. So yeah, But my point is that I was going on I
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  was like, everybody gets on my case about choosing a side when who created
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  the sides in the first place. Who created this idea of team man and
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  team women and forced everyone to choose team woman. Okay, we need to
• 2:17:05
  get rid of that mentality entirely. There is no team man, there is
• 2:17:11
  no team woman. There is only team failure, right, and everybody now
• 2:17:16
  who doesn't recognize that is on team failure and they are riding the collapse of
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  everything because of it. There is no team woman, there is no team
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  man, because we both have to work together to construct a society that is
• 2:17:31
  functional. Right, And that means that team woman needs to stop, because
• 2:17:37
  that's what we're seeing. We are seeing women who are insisting on there being
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  a team woman, right, and that we cannot look at the situation for
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  men, well, that means you are forcing the conflict and you are making
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  it worse. And honestly, you're right if you're on team woman, you
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  win. We've experienced that with Honey Badger Radio. We get thrown. We
• 2:18:00
  are not on team women. We're not necessarily on team Man. I personally
• 2:18:03
  am not on team Man. I'm one team. We need to we're working
• 2:18:09
  together again. Yeah, team civilization team. We're watching our breeding colony collapse.
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  We need to stop this. We need to start understanding each other,
• 2:18:16
  start bringing their romance back in, start pair bonding, start you know,
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  igniting this dying star. But this is yeah, this is people who insist
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  that there is a conflict and insist that you be on one side or the
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  other. It's interesting to me to suddenly see the rise of people who are
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  on Team Man, like Pearl, and I'm like, you know, maybe
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  that's necessary. Maybe My final thought on Pearl is she is necessary. Oh
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  yeah, she is a necessary addition to the conversation because they there needs to
• 2:18:50
  be a balance, but there also needs to be somebody saying, hey,
• 2:18:54
  we need to understand each other, we need to deal with the fact that
• 2:18:56
  our breeding colony is collapsing, and sit not just beyond team woman, not
• 2:19:01
  just play these political games anyway, you really have to go. I'm gonna
• 2:19:07
  wrap it up because I gotta go pick up lindsay. I just called her
• 2:19:09
  and told her I'm running late. But find yeah, Pearl put out I
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  got a couple of super chowds. But Pearl put out this tweet, and
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  one of the people who sent a super child was making reference to it,
• 2:19:22
  so they Nova Fan no no, no, Yeah, Nova Fan gave us
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  five bucks and says what shows a lot of perspective is when Pearl calls out
• 2:19:31
  the destruction of the family court. Yet Traducks still cling on to the delusion
• 2:19:37
  by describing Pearl's stance as anti marriage. Here's a link of that interaction,
• 2:19:43
  so I'll just put that up there and let me see. Well. When
• 2:19:50
  responded to Temple's thing, where she says, I've been trying to tell you
• 2:19:54
  guys, and Robert Bowen says, I don't think anyone's disagreed with you about
• 2:19:58
  the state of the divorce system in our country. We just disagree with you
• 2:20:01
  about the notion that men should avoid marriage at all costs. See, that's
• 2:20:05
  why you won't solve this problem, because you just want them to just deal
• 2:20:09
  with it. And Pearl said, I'd like to take this moment. This
• 2:20:13
  was a separate tweet. I wanted to read to beg conservatives to make family
• 2:20:16
  court reform their number one issue this election scene. Yeah, Proder is a
• 2:20:20
  conservative Christian who waited till marriage. Yet even he was labeled an abuser and
• 2:20:24
  targeted for parental alienation. This was further spread by the trad cons This shows
• 2:20:30
  just how bad we need divorce reform. Men are not afraid of marriage,
• 2:20:33
  they are afraid of divorce, I said, And in response to this,
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  I said, no, this was like just on its own. Of course,
• 2:20:41
  people still, like I think they still when I mentioned the book Richard
• 2:20:46
  Cooper, you write up a few thousands of the Galas pearl and go protests
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  for reform to policymakers. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do the inversion
• 2:20:52
  of the Handmaid's Gals, right, like, okay, so me Ellison,
• 2:20:58
  Hanah, Hannah, Laura, and maybe we could get the work completely.
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  If you remember, like seven eight years ago, the women who were for
• 2:21:07
  leading ladies for shared custody in Canada. O, god, this fight has
• 2:21:11
  been so freaking long. But let me even women for shared parenting. Yeah
• 2:21:16
  no. And also they were killed by the Feminist Lawyers Association in Canada.
• 2:21:22
  Yeah, Oh, what the point I made in response to another post on
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  this was the reason why men are walking away? In my opinion from what
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  I'm observing, is that many of them no longer think it's possible for women
• 2:21:37
  to love men. And in addition to that, they have to hand their
• 2:21:43
  life like they have to hand their life and their legal existence over to a
• 2:21:48
  woman. They have to hand the leavers of every aspect of their life over
• 2:21:54
  to a woman. And she has been taught that they are oppressors and everything
• 2:22:01
  that they need in a relationship is oppression. Okay, that's that's a punch.
• 2:22:07
  That is a one two punch that men are facing. And what is
• 2:22:11
  the conservative response, man up? Yeah, no, try harder, try
• 2:22:16
  harder. Okay, I'm I'm done, I'm out done to I have all
• 2:22:22
  right? That are the ship is coming out of their ass as we speak.
• 2:22:28
  I know I got to go to all right, So I'll do the
• 2:22:31
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  This message needs to get out there, like honestly, we cannot keep
• 2:22:41
  saying, oh, when men are to blame, man up, we are
• 2:22:46
  destroying everything with that expectation. Okay, men can't man up? Out of
• 2:22:52
  manhood being condemned by everyone right as oppressive, and the and the conservatives will
• 2:22:58
  not stand up for men. So we need to continue to push forward even
• 2:23:03
  though that this message doesn't get a lot of play. It doesn't get a
• 2:23:07
  lot of traction. It's throttled everywhere for well, it just is because you're
• 2:23:11
  not on team women, right. I don't think there is team anything,
• 2:23:15
  right. And the more you force people on team women, the more you
• 2:23:18
  accelerate the disaster that is unfolding around us. And you can look at the
• 2:23:24
  immigration, you can look at the insect intersectionality, you can look at all
• 2:23:28
  the LGBTQ crowd. It's all the same shit. It is a symptom of
• 2:23:33
  the destruction of the relationship between men and women. And we need to fix
• 2:23:37
  that. And we need to get rid of this idea that anybody's on a
• 2:23:41
  team, all right, And that does not mean silencing men. It means
• 2:23:46
  listening to them because they are part of the team and they haven't been listened
• 2:23:50
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  to address this and I can see why, because they're cowards. And when
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  you do address it, when you do talk about this stuff in the way
• 2:24:31
  that we have, you get throttled. You know, you don't get the
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  big audience, you don't get a lot of people listening to you, because
• 2:24:39
  nobody wants to question these fundamental attitudes that we have. All right, I'll
• 2:24:43
  get off my soapbox. Back to you, Brian. All right, well,
• 2:24:48
  thank you for the super Child's aranks. I just reading really quick.
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  Five bucks. He says, this is why I call feminism' Steve gottocentrism watching
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