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UNBELIEVABLE O's comeback to win the series. Trade deadline looms. · Birdland Territory

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Speaker 1: Well, there have been some crazy days in Birdland in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Maybe this moves to the top of
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Speaker 1: the list. Trailing the Tigers seven to nothing today at
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Speaker 1: Comerica Park and facing Trek Scoubele two times Cy Young winner,
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Speaker 1: which means the Orioles, who lost fourteen to nothing last night,
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Speaker 1: were seven nothing down today looking like a third straight
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Speaker 1: series loss.
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Speaker 2: They rallied.
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Speaker 1: The Orioles beat the Tigers in twelve innings today, ten
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Speaker 1: to nine.
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Speaker 2: They actually went.
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Speaker 1: Eighteen straight innings in this series with no runs and
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Speaker 1: then scored a flurry up ten runs to come back
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Speaker 1: and win today. Welcome to Birdland Territory. The tone of
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Speaker 1: the show is a little different than it looked like
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Speaker 1: it might be a couple hours ago. And I don't
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Speaker 1: know if they saved the season, but I think they
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Speaker 1: at least saved.
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Speaker 2: All of Baltimore.
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Speaker 1: Saying you can't beat by now if you've lost three
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Speaker 1: straight series and you go three and six, which is
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Speaker 1: what they were facing until the comeback. What do you
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Speaker 1: guys make of a bizarre day?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a wild game there, and I think
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Speaker 3: you're right, Steve. I think it did kind of save
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Speaker 3: all the You can't keep this team together now. They
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Speaker 3: just lost three in a row and it was not
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Speaker 3: looking pretty there. But those games as a player are
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Speaker 3: what it's all about. Like when you come from behind
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Speaker 3: like that against a two time in a row Cy.
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Speaker 4: Young Award winner and the bullpen.
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Speaker 3: They had their best arm, one of their best arms
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Speaker 3: out there, and you're able to come back to that
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Speaker 3: seven to nothing game. That is that's a happy flight
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Speaker 3: coming back from Detroit, and that's a huge series win
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Speaker 3: there when they really really needed it. And as a player,
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Speaker 3: that doesn't get any better than that.
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Speaker 5: That was just such a schizophrenic like series. Guys like
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Speaker 5: that was one of the more bizarre because go back
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Speaker 5: to Monday where Kyle Bradish on the mound, you feel good.
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Speaker 5: Bradish didn't have it, but you know what, the bullpen
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Speaker 5: picked them up and the offense. I thought that was
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Speaker 5: some of their best approaches that we've seen in quite
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Speaker 5: some time. They only struck out three times. It was awesome.
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Speaker 5: Then they followed that up with their worst game of
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Speaker 5: the season. It was the largest shutout loss that they've
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Speaker 5: suffered since two thousand and four. They didn't have a
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Speaker 5: runner in scoring position. That's how bad of a game
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Speaker 5: it was, and then you're trailing seven to nothing, you're thinking,
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Speaker 5: oh my gosh, the season's over, it's done, it's buried.
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Speaker 5: For them to dig deep, that was unbelievable. And you
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Speaker 5: can say a lot of things about this Foriols team
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Speaker 5: this year, and we know all of the flaws, but
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Speaker 5: they fight, they battled, they scratched, they claw and that
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Speaker 5: was their twenty fifth come from behind win and doing
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Speaker 5: it in you know, you take the two run lead
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Speaker 5: in the eleventh and then boom the first pitch, Rico
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Speaker 5: Garcia home run, Spencer Torkolsen another gut punch. But they
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Speaker 5: kept scratching and clawing, and that clubhouse they deserve a
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Speaker 5: ton of credit for not rolling over when they were
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Speaker 5: down seven to nothing against Schooble.
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Speaker 1: What was the Oriel's biggest comeback win since June thirtieth,
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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. In that game at home, they
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Speaker 1: went to the bottom of the seventh trailing the Red
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Speaker 1: Sox ten to one. They scored five and the seventh
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Speaker 1: and five in the eighth and one, eleven to ten,
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Speaker 1: ten to one, down eleven ten win. Today it was
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Speaker 1: seven to nothing, down, ten to nine win. And so
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Speaker 1: this is the biggest comeback victory since June thirtieth, two
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Speaker 1: thousand and nine against the Boston Red Sox. Just crazy stuff.
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Speaker 1: I did not see this coming in any way. I
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Speaker 1: was getting my notes ready for a certain article to
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Speaker 1: write and then had to scrap that. And I'm sure
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Speaker 1: there were a lot of media guys and fans getting
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Speaker 1: there the angry comments ready that. Again, this doesn't save everything,
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Speaker 1: but my gosh, to beat this team today with Scuba
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Speaker 1: out there, it just I don't know what the win
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Speaker 1: probability was. We'll have to get to MLB Network to
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Speaker 1: tell us. It had to be really low. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I saw Steve's seventh inning, and Sarah Langs does a
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Speaker 5: great job for MLB Network. Heading into the seventh they
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Speaker 5: they had a point seven percent chance of winning the
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Speaker 5: game and they ended up winning it. So it's it's
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Speaker 5: unbelievable point seven percent.
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Speaker 3: You know what, really I kept thinking about when I
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Speaker 3: see them come back like that, and you hear Coltonkwser's
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Speaker 3: comments after the game, is what we've been kind of
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Speaker 3: hearing from these guys. Every single guy has been talking
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Speaker 3: about this clubhouse and how they have each other's back,
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Speaker 3: and that win today really showed that these guys really have.
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Speaker 4: Each other's back.
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Speaker 3: They could have folded there very easily, down seven to nothing.
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Speaker 3: Terrek School's coming back out in the seventh and you're thinking,
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Speaker 3: what is this team going to do to come back?
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Speaker 3: How Okay, if they get it close, maybe that's a
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Speaker 3: moral victory, but moral victories aren't doing anything for the
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Speaker 3: Ools right now. But to come all the way back
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Speaker 3: and tie that game, and then to have the lead
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Speaker 3: and give it up in the eleventh and just still
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Speaker 3: come out on top, it goes to show a lot
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Speaker 3: of the character and really what these guys have been
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Speaker 3: talking about since April.
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Speaker 5: There's so many under the radar moments of this game,
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Speaker 5: and there's going to be a ton when you win
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Speaker 5: it in this type of fashion. But how much have
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Speaker 5: we talked during these episodes? Two out runs against the Orioles.
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Speaker 5: It's killed them. Well, they scored seven runs with two outs.
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Speaker 5: But I think one of the most underrated APT bets
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Speaker 5: in this game, so Leoti taveris he drove in the
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Speaker 5: first run of the game to make it seven to one.
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Speaker 5: Jeremiah Jackson had a twelve pitch at bat and drew
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Speaker 5: a walk. Jeremiah Jackson had five walks all year long,
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Speaker 5: and he drew a walk in a twelve pitch at
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Speaker 5: Bet and then it was the onslaught Jackson Holiday with
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Speaker 5: out two RBI hit. Taylor Ward drove in two more runs.
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Speaker 5: Then it's seven to five, and none of that would
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Speaker 5: have been possible if Jackson ended up striking out at
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Speaker 5: seven to one. You go into the eighth inning and
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Speaker 5: you're probably thinking that you're done. So I think the
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Speaker 5: Jeremiah Jackson at beat really, you know, it should not
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Speaker 5: go overlook.
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Speaker 1: And the Orioles scored in the sixth inning Monday, then
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Speaker 1: it didn't score in the final three innings. They didn't
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Speaker 1: score nine innings Tuesday, and they didn't score in six
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Speaker 1: innings today. That's no runs eighteen innings. There's so many
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Speaker 1: oddities from this series. We pointed out this series stat
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Speaker 1: that for eight of their last nine series they had
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Speaker 1: scored thirteen runs or less. I mean, the offense really
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Speaker 1: damning for the oriol offense, and in this series they
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Speaker 1: got eighteen in two games it didn't score and one
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Speaker 1: It's just bizarre. And I further, I'll add this, the
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Speaker 1: Oriols won a series where they're starting pitching, which has
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Speaker 1: been great had an ERA of ten forty three. They
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Speaker 1: gave up seventeen earned runs twenty runs over all overall
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Speaker 1: in fourteen and two thirds this series and still won it.
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Speaker 1: And again Scooba was starting and Yeah pitched Trevor Rodgers.
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Speaker 1: As it turned out, not by a huge margin because
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Speaker 1: some of those runs were charged in. It just was unlikely.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it's going to mean, but I
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Speaker 1: think in the trade scope, it means they're still in
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Speaker 1: that murky in between area that it can't seem to get.
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Speaker 3: A a Yeah, And I feel like they've been in
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Speaker 3: this same exact territory for three or four weeks now.
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Speaker 3: It's just like you feel like they're out of it,
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Speaker 3: then they're back in, and now they're back.
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know where they stand.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there was rumors on MLB trade rumors yesterday
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Speaker 3: of Cole and Kowser and Jackson Holliday being kind of
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Speaker 3: chopped around by the Orioles. So it's just I really
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Speaker 3: have no idea where this is going to go, and
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be really interesting to see how it all
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Speaker 3: plays out.
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Speaker 4: Honestly, Steve, I.
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Speaker 5: Have no idea. There's just so much smoke surrounding the
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Speaker 5: Orioles right now where I still John Morosi, right when
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Speaker 5: I was at the tail end of the show, coming
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Speaker 5: in near Cano is one of the most coveted setup
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Speaker 5: men on the trade market. So it's and you, Brad,
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Speaker 5: you brought up Jeff Passing, bringing up Kowser and Jackson, like,
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Speaker 5: I have no idea what to expect, but I'm really
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Speaker 5: excited to see what happens and then these next days
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Speaker 5: leading up to the trade deadline. But they could just
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Speaker 5: go so many different directions, and quite frankly, at this point,
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Speaker 5: I don't know if I'd be surprised.
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Speaker 2: It's bizarre. It's bizarre.
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Speaker 1: There's just no I think if you're michae Elias, you
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Speaker 1: must be talking with your staff and confused. There just
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Speaker 1: is no clear cut direction and anything they do could
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Speaker 1: turn out great or could totally be a bust. If
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Speaker 1: you give up future assets for two months of a
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Speaker 1: player that doesn't help you get in it, man, that's
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Speaker 1: gonna look bad. On the other hand, Tim and Brad,
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Speaker 1: excuse me, guys, excuse me microphone. There there was a
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Speaker 1: stat of Baseball America put out don't hit me any ground.
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Speaker 2: Balls, just to let you guys know. That's that's how rough.
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Speaker 1: There was a stat of Baseball America put out saying
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Speaker 1: something like less than ten percent of players traded at
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Speaker 1: the deadline have a certain number of war like most
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Speaker 1: of them don't pan out, yeah times trading prospects. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's the way Dave Dombrowski fields in Philadelphia. He's never
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Speaker 1: met a prospect he wouldn't trade, Yeah a j preller.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so true.
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Speaker 3: And it's just like, because you just don't know what
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Speaker 3: the future is gonna hold, and you you trade for
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Speaker 3: a guy that maybe just fits the team that he's
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Speaker 3: on and he's really comfortable there, and you change scenery.
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Speaker 3: Some guys it works, But I just feel like when
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Speaker 3: you get traded in that final two month window, it
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Speaker 3: just gets really difficult to perform at the level you're
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Speaker 3: accustomed to because everything gets flipped on its head and
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Speaker 3: you just don't know what direction it's going to go
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Speaker 3: from there and how you slot in on that team
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Speaker 3: and getting to know the guys, and it's just there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of stuff that kind of gets thrown your
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Speaker 3: way there and that that final two month window.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Brad, you lived it. I can't imagine just from
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Speaker 5: a human aspect of it, where okay, using your point
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Speaker 5: Baltimore to Atlanta and brand new environment, brand new organization,
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Speaker 5: brand new teammates, like so much new, new, new new,
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Speaker 5: and you're just throwing into the mix in a team
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Speaker 5: that's in a pennant race, like your head's got to
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Speaker 5: be spinning.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely.
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Speaker 3: When I got traded over there, I was a good
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Speaker 3: situation because we had former Oriel pitching coaches who were
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Speaker 3: over there, and they basically sign me down and just like,
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Speaker 3: do what you do.
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Speaker 4: Forget about what happened in the first four.
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Speaker 3: Months, just do what you do, don't worry about what
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Speaker 3: they're expecting from you, go out there, pitch your game,
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Speaker 3: and everything will fall into place.
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Speaker 4: And it just helped a lot with that. But not
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Speaker 4: every situation is like that.
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Speaker 3: You're not going to get traded to a team that
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Speaker 3: literally had a pitching coach that I had for two
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Speaker 3: years in their front office helping me out and worked
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Speaker 3: with me throwing bullpens and this kind of stuff.
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Speaker 4: So you just never know what kind of situation you're
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Speaker 1: All right, Tim, thank you as well as we move
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Speaker 1: on here Berdland Territory. Couple topics to hit on as
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Speaker 1: the O's get that stunning win against the Tigers today
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Speaker 1: ten to nine in twelve innings. I was very surprised
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Speaker 1: Jackson Holliday didn't start today. I know it's a lefty.
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Speaker 1: I know it's Eric Scoogle six for eight in the
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Speaker 1: series five twenty eight ops since July eighth ops over
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Speaker 1: one thousand. I don't get it, guys, to me, if
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Speaker 1: he's your one one was, he's a guy who's a
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Speaker 1: big part of your future, and you believe he is.
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Speaker 1: This is the challenge you want for him, right? Are
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Speaker 1: we telling the young guys we got to keep you
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Speaker 1: away from the best pitcher in the league. Don't we
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Speaker 1: want him thinking I'm as hot as I've ever been.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go get three hits off Scooball today.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, Steve.
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Speaker 3: I think we've kind of seen this trend all year long,
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Speaker 3: where lefties can't face lefties, rights can't face rightings, and
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Speaker 3: you are slotted as you can only as a left
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Speaker 3: you can only face rights, and as a writer you
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Speaker 3: can only face lefties.
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Speaker 4: But I agree with you.
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Speaker 3: Jackson Holliday has been one of the best hitters. And
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Speaker 3: it's not just the last seven games. Looking back at
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Speaker 3: his numbers over the last thirty, he's got a fifty
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Speaker 3: ops and to me, that's as high as anybody on
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Speaker 3: the team right now. And I just to me, like
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Speaker 3: you said, being the number one overall pick and all
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Speaker 3: the accolades that came with him coming through the minor leagues,
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Speaker 3: he's starting to come into his own as a major
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Speaker 3: league player. Yeah, the power is not there as much,
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Speaker 3: but that will come. I think being such a young player,
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Speaker 3: we kind of lose perspective on how many short like
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Speaker 3: he hasn't had many that's in the major leagues as
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Speaker 3: it is. So for me, it's he's got to be
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Speaker 3: out there on a daily basis right now. I don't
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Speaker 3: care if it's lefty, righty, whoever he's facing. I need
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Speaker 3: to have him in the lineup. And especially when it's
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Speaker 3: coming down to crunch time here with the trade deadline
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Speaker 3: coming up, and when you're right there for a chance
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Speaker 3: for a wildcard.
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Speaker 5: It just goes back to a conversation we've been having
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Speaker 5: so much guys, where having the the just the natural feel.
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Speaker 5: You had two hits in yesterday or excuse me, three
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Speaker 5: hits and yesterday's game Jackson Holiday had two of your
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Speaker 5: three ins. He was six fraight in the series. Like
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Speaker 5: you said, Steve, I just have a feel for it.
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Speaker 5: And you can go back to July eighth, because that's
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Speaker 5: the beginning of this really really hot stretch where he
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Speaker 5: is an on base percentage over five hundred, and he
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Speaker 5: had that four hit game against the Cubs. He was
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Speaker 5: four for four. Remember he wasn't in the starting lineup
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Speaker 5: the very next game. It just doesn't make much sense
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Speaker 5: to me. And Holiday, he's using the entire field, he
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Speaker 5: spraying the ball all over, but some one thing that
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Speaker 5: I'm most excited about in this now seventeen game stretch
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Speaker 5: Jackson Holiday. In his minor league career, he had an
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Speaker 5: elite strikeout to walk ratio in this stretch ten walks
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Speaker 5: to nine strikeouts, so more more walks than strikeouts in
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Speaker 5: this now seventeen game stretch. So that has me really
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Speaker 5: excited for Jackson.
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Speaker 1: He went two for three in this game and he
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Speaker 1: drove in three runs. He didn't get in the game
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Speaker 1: till the seventh inning. Eight for eleven this series. He's
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Speaker 1: now hitting two sixty for the year. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: his ops for the year is seven sixty seven MLB
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Speaker 1: averages what around seven point fifteen or something. That is
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Speaker 1: a higher OPS for this year than Adlie Richman and
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Speaker 1: Samuel Basio. He trails a couple people like Alonzo, but
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Speaker 1: he's ahead of Gunner, He's ahead of Adley, He's ahead
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Speaker 1: of Basio. He's ahead of most of them who have
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Speaker 1: played regularly for the Oriols this year. Taylor Ward as well.
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Speaker 1: This came out of nowhere. What a hot streak. We'll
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Speaker 1: see how it goes for this kid. But Tim, you're
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Speaker 1: right when he and Ben McDonald kept noting a swing
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Speaker 1: adjustment or change and maybe not as much loft.
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Speaker 2: Are you guys seeing that. I have a hard.
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Speaker 1: Time just with the naked eye viewing it without a
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Speaker 1: side by side, you know, from like a couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks ago or something.
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Speaker 5: Well, I think something that's important to point out with Jackson,
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Speaker 5: like he doesn't need to be a home run hitter.
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Speaker 5: He's put on a lot of muscle obviously for when
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Speaker 5: he got drafted at eighteen, but even just over the
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Speaker 5: past couple of years. He hit seventeen home runs last year.
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Speaker 5: If he's a twenty home run guy, even twenty five
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Speaker 5: in a great year, that's fine. Just get on base,
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Speaker 5: because he was elite getting on base used the whole field.
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Speaker 5: You know. I love the approach that we're seeing from
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Speaker 5: Jackson Holiday in this stretch.
17:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what That's what I see the most of
17:56
Speaker 3: is that he's using the left side of the infield.
17:58
Speaker 4: And when you look at the third base, yes, sure
18:00
Speaker 4: to hit a ball down a line so far over.
18:03
Speaker 3: So if you start hitting the ball more to the
18:06
Speaker 3: left side of the field, you spread out the infielders
18:08
Speaker 3: and now those balls that are be coming outs find
18:10
Speaker 3: holes and he's on base and you don't need him
18:12
Speaker 3: to hit the home runs. When you have Pete Alonzo, Taylor,
18:15
Speaker 3: Ward Gunner, Henderson Adleye Basaio.
18:18
Speaker 4: Just get on base.
18:19
Speaker 3: The doubles are fine, and when you can hit guys
18:21
Speaker 3: in that's what you're going to be paid to do.
18:23
Speaker 3: RBIs are cool too. You don't have hit the ball
18:25
Speaker 3: over the fence to get your own RBIs. You get
18:27
Speaker 3: balls in the gap, you get base hits with the
18:29
Speaker 3: guys on base and runners in scoring position. That's going
18:32
Speaker 3: to pay pretty well too.
18:35
Speaker 1: Two down notes from today. There were probably more than two,
18:38
Speaker 1: but the defense was really bad. If they've lost this game,
18:41
Speaker 1: we would be focusing on that. I don't know what
18:43
Speaker 1: Peter Lionzo saw on the rundown. He just threw that
18:47
Speaker 1: ball on the left field gunner a mistake. So there
18:50
Speaker 1: were defensive miscues and another home run from Rico Garcia. Brad,
18:55
Speaker 1: do you see anything going on can a pitcher getting one?
18:59
Speaker 2: He's yeah something.
19:02
Speaker 3: I've been watching him pitch obviously and paying a little
19:04
Speaker 3: bit closer attention because of the home run balls. To me,
19:07
Speaker 3: it just kind of seems he's not attacking with his
19:10
Speaker 3: fastball as much.
19:11
Speaker 4: He's trying to get ahead with his off speed.
19:13
Speaker 3: His off speed's great, but I think what makes his
19:15
Speaker 3: off speed elite, and when he's going through these really
19:17
Speaker 3: good stretches is that he uses his fastball to get
19:20
Speaker 3: to the off speed. His change up is great the lefties,
19:22
Speaker 3: but if you're not showing your fastball in enough, they
19:25
Speaker 3: can kind of stay out over that change up, and
19:27
Speaker 3: if it's not down down, it's going to kind of
19:29
Speaker 3: become a home run pitch. And I kind of found
19:31
Speaker 3: myself getting into those slumps. I would always think, Okay,
19:34
Speaker 3: just go to my change up, Go to my change up,
19:35
Speaker 3: but you have to remember what makes your change up
19:37
Speaker 3: so good is your fastball. And I think he's just
19:39
Speaker 3: been kind of pitching backwards a little bit more as
19:42
Speaker 3: opposed to just getting ahead with his fastball, which is
19:44
Speaker 3: what we saw early on in the season, and then
19:46
Speaker 3: he'd go to those off speed pitches, And to me,
19:48
Speaker 3: I think it's just kind of getting a little bit cute,
19:49
Speaker 3: trying to, like today that first pitch slider to the
19:51
Speaker 3: Turkosen just to kind of get me overslider. In those
19:55
Speaker 3: situations there, you have to kind of know the guys
19:57
Speaker 3: swinging out of his shoes, and I think that's all
19:59
Speaker 3: he kind of got caught at today. But I think
20:01
Speaker 3: he's gonna be fine. We saw that the other night.
20:02
Speaker 3: He got the save one, two, three and with two strikeouts.
20:05
Speaker 3: But I think it's really just kind of don't be
20:07
Speaker 3: afraid to use your fastball way more, Brad.
20:10
Speaker 5: It's always brought up when any reliever goes through struggles
20:15
Speaker 5: like Rico Garcia is, And look, he was historic to
20:18
Speaker 5: start the season. I think it was twenty one appearances.
20:20
Speaker 5: He gave up one or and run like that was
20:23
Speaker 5: just a stupid stretch. Yeah, but Rico Garcia, you know,
20:26
Speaker 5: he had three straight outings in which he allowed solo homers.
20:30
Speaker 5: Then Albernaz put the faith in a Monday to get
20:34
Speaker 5: the save, but then giving up another homer. Here, what
20:37
Speaker 5: do you make when people say, okay, do you want
20:40
Speaker 5: to try to get him in the low leverage situations?
20:43
Speaker 5: Would that help get his confidence up? Did that ever
20:46
Speaker 5: happen with you, Brad?
20:48
Speaker 2: Like?
20:48
Speaker 5: Is that overblown or is there something to that?
20:52
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think it's I think it helps a little bit.
20:55
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, if he's one
20:56
Speaker 3: of your elite relievers, put him in a low leverage
20:58
Speaker 3: situation isn't going to help you when you get back
21:01
Speaker 3: to that high leverage situation. So what when we were
21:04
Speaker 3: pitching with Buck, Darren would kind of make a joke.
21:06
Speaker 3: He'd call it the doghouse, like I had an instant
21:09
Speaker 3: in Detroit now that we're they're in Detroit right now.
21:11
Speaker 3: I gave up a home run, a go ahead home
21:13
Speaker 3: run to Victor Martinez, and instead of pitching the eighth inning,
21:15
Speaker 3: which I pretty much had found myself in all year,
21:18
Speaker 3: I pitched the seventh thing on Sunday, and Darren was
21:20
Speaker 3: kind of like that was a little bit of a jab,
21:22
Speaker 3: you know, like you want to get your spot back
21:23
Speaker 3: in the eighth. It was still a high leverage situation.
21:25
Speaker 3: You're pitching the seventh, but it's not the eighth and
21:27
Speaker 3: it's not the ninth. So I think there's ways to
21:30
Speaker 3: go about it. But I think just kind of throwing
21:31
Speaker 3: him out here, out there right now at this point
21:34
Speaker 3: of the season doesn't really help because his appearance his
21:36
Speaker 3: appearances are getting up there. This is the most he's
21:39
Speaker 3: ever had in a big league season, So that's another
21:41
Speaker 3: thing to think about. Also, if you're trying to just
21:43
Speaker 3: get him out there, just to get him out there,
21:45
Speaker 3: I don't see that really helping. But obviously Auburnez has
21:47
Speaker 3: a little bit different way because he's thrown right back
21:49
Speaker 3: out there in a safe situation on Monday night, so
21:52
Speaker 3: he's got a little bit.
21:53
Speaker 4: Different way of going about it.
21:54
Speaker 3: But I think every manager has to find their ways
21:56
Speaker 3: to get you in a spot to kind of take
21:58
Speaker 3: the pressure off a little bit. I think they can
22:00
Speaker 3: maybe find out here in the coming weeks with Rico.
22:04
Speaker 2: He sure keeps giving him chances.
22:05
Speaker 1: Rico can't say he's not throwing him out there, that
22:08
Speaker 1: he's just in a stretch here where he's given up.
22:10
Speaker 1: I believe it's four homers and over five appearances, yep,
22:13
Speaker 1: so really really struggling right now.
22:17
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22:48
Speaker 1: may not have a show this weekend. We're actually we're
22:50
Speaker 1: gonna have one upcoming with an Oriel guest. We'll save
22:54
Speaker 1: that for a day or two from now, and then
22:57
Speaker 1: we'll be with you knowing our schedule at the end
23:02
Speaker 1: of the deadline. Does that sound right?
23:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, Monday, right after the deadline, we'll have a video up.
23:09
Speaker 1: So whatever happens for the Orioles, we'll let you know. Hey,
23:13
Speaker 1: let's get to this young kid pitcher today, and I
23:16
Speaker 1: want to show you some highlights in a minute, But
23:19
Speaker 1: first tell you that Cayden Hunter is a left hander
23:21
Speaker 1: who today moved to double A and through seven scoreless,
23:25
Speaker 1: one hit, he walked to, he fanned ten. He has
23:30
Speaker 1: pitched at three levels this year. And I want to
23:35
Speaker 1: give you his statistics. I believe I got him here somewhere.
23:38
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't. I just read him to you. He
23:40
Speaker 1: is four and one with a one thirty two ERA.
23:44
Speaker 1: And let's look at a highlight from today. Gets a
23:46
Speaker 1: strike out here, Brad looks like a change up.
23:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, usc yeah, really good change up there, good arm action,
23:54
Speaker 3: obviously pitched diving down in a way that's for lefty,
23:57
Speaker 3: if you could throw a good change up that that's
23:59
Speaker 3: a huge equalizer, especially the righties.
24:01
Speaker 4: But it's impressive.
24:02
Speaker 3: When you get called up through a new level, you
24:04
Speaker 3: always want to show your best stuff. And you know,
24:07
Speaker 3: getting called up to the double A seven innings, one
24:09
Speaker 3: HiT's a good way to start your promotion off, that's
24:11
Speaker 3: for sure. I mean, anytime you move up in the
24:14
Speaker 3: minor leagues, it's the same as if you get called
24:15
Speaker 3: up to the big leagues. It's it's it's a promotion,
24:18
Speaker 3: regardless of what level you're going to. So everybody wants
24:21
Speaker 3: to get off to a good start. And that's a
24:22
Speaker 3: really good highlight right there. And it looks like he's
24:24
Speaker 3: got really good stuff. So it's impressive to see that
24:26
Speaker 3: from him.
24:27
Speaker 1: He's been a strike out machine this year. He started
24:30
Speaker 1: at del Marvis six games, went to Frederick ten dominant.
24:33
Speaker 1: Now he's at Bowie dominant. Performance today thirteen point four
24:37
Speaker 1: to four k or nine thirty eight percent CA percentage.
24:42
Speaker 1: That is the best of Eddie Oriel farm pitcher. They
24:45
Speaker 1: tell me as fastball today was ninety two to ninety eight,
24:49
Speaker 1: sat right in the middle there ninety four to ninety five.
24:51
Speaker 1: He also throws the basic change slider curve. So Caden
24:55
Speaker 1: Hunter one to watch. You eros are stacking up some
24:57
Speaker 1: lefties on the farm. We just saw daily on Move
25:00
Speaker 1: Up the Triple A. We know jerwa Has was in
25:03
Speaker 1: the Futures game Boston Bateman's at Frederick Man. They got
25:07
Speaker 1: some lefties coming on the farm, so that is exciting.
25:11
Speaker 1: In our final minutes, guys will reiterate it's gonna be
25:17
Speaker 1: a while few days. Chris Davis comes back for his
25:20
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. If you haven't watched our video with Chris,
25:23
Speaker 1: you can watch it on our YouTube channel right now,
25:25
Speaker 1: the Birdland Territory Channel. Chris was very open, honest and
25:28
Speaker 1: candid in our interview this week. It was fantastic and
25:32
Speaker 1: so go check that out. In addition, obviously you can
25:35
Speaker 1: see all our archive shows there. So what do you
25:40
Speaker 1: guys think it'll go down to the final day. I
25:43
Speaker 1: kind of think it will for the Orioles. I think
25:45
Speaker 1: Monday is going to be a big action day, or
25:49
Speaker 1: if it's not, it won't be for lack of phone
25:52
Speaker 1: calls that are happening.
25:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. I just don't.
25:56
Speaker 3: I mean, they're right there at the wildcard standing so
25:58
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't see how you could stay and path.
26:00
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I think these three games
26:03
Speaker 3: go a long way, and it's we've been saying I
26:04
Speaker 3: feel like we've been saying this now for three weeks.
26:06
Speaker 4: But it's just where the team is at.
26:08
Speaker 3: It's the standings are dictating where they're at. And I
26:12
Speaker 3: think that's why we don't know which direction they're going
26:14
Speaker 3: to go, because if they had gotten swept in a
26:16
Speaker 3: couple of these series, I think we'd have a more
26:18
Speaker 3: clear direction of what they're going to do. There's certain
26:20
Speaker 3: pieces that we know they should probably move on from,
26:23
Speaker 3: but right now they say and I think can't be
26:26
Speaker 3: more than two and a half games out of Wildcard,
26:27
Speaker 3: So it's I mean, it's you have two months ago,
26:30
Speaker 3: so it's you're right there. That's all you can ask for.
26:33
Speaker 3: And I know the record isn't what we had hoped,
26:35
Speaker 3: but the standings are dictating what I think will happen.
26:38
Speaker 4: So these three games go long way. When it comes
26:40
Speaker 4: to their record.
26:41
Speaker 5: Well, I certainly don't think they're doing nothing right like
26:45
Speaker 5: one way or another. There's going to be some movement
26:48
Speaker 5: on this roster, but what direction they go, I have
26:51
Speaker 5: no idea, and I was looking a couple of years ago,
26:55
Speaker 5: and I understand this is not a like for like situation.
26:58
Speaker 5: This organizations in a mind different spot. But I went
27:01
Speaker 5: back to twenty twenty two and they're a game above
27:04
Speaker 5: five hundred. There were a game and a half out
27:06
Speaker 5: of the wild card spot at that deadline, and they
27:09
Speaker 5: traded Jorge Lopez and Trey Mancini and look Kinzight being
27:12
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, I still think that was the right move
27:15
Speaker 5: to do, but it was still bold of Michael Eyes
27:19
Speaker 5: to do that at that point. Now, I don't know
27:22
Speaker 5: how much they sell. The Rogers part of it is
27:25
Speaker 5: the one that I can go either way. I really
27:29
Speaker 5: have no idea what they're going to do with Trevor Rodgers.
27:32
Speaker 5: I because if you don't sign him, you gotta trade him.
27:36
Speaker 5: But I I don't know that. That's probably the most
27:40
Speaker 5: difficult decision that Elias has to.
27:44
Speaker 4: Me too, honestly, Sorry, Steve.
27:46
Speaker 3: I think when you think of Trevor Rodgers, if you
27:49
Speaker 3: move him, I almost feel like Tailor Ward has got
27:51
Speaker 3: to go too, because you're kind of taking a stand.
27:54
Speaker 3: I almost feel like if one goes, both are going
27:57
Speaker 3: to go, and who knows they could be in the
27:58
Speaker 3: same I don't We don't know at this point, but
28:00
Speaker 3: I just feel like if one of those Domino's falls,
28:03
Speaker 3: it feels like both of them, and then from there
28:05
Speaker 3: you have your guests as good as mine. What could
28:07
Speaker 3: happen because it could go a plethora of ways from there,
28:10
Speaker 3: and you just don't know what you get back. So
28:11
Speaker 3: do you get controllable guys, do you get minor league guys?
28:14
Speaker 3: Is it a twenty twenty seven move? You just it's
28:17
Speaker 3: just there's so many variables with the Oriels, I feel
28:19
Speaker 3: like it's gonna be one of the most watched teams
28:21
Speaker 3: at the deadline across baseball.
28:25
Speaker 2: Exactly.
28:26
Speaker 1: And they have two pieces on expiring contracts that are
28:31
Speaker 1: really being sought right now. Everybody would like a lefty
28:34
Speaker 1: pitcher as good as Trevor Rodgers, and many teams are
28:37
Speaker 1: seeking a right handed outfield bet and that's Taylor Ward.
28:41
Speaker 1: So that would be taking away from their chase unless
28:46
Speaker 1: Olias can pull off a combo deal where he gets
28:48
Speaker 1: a piece that helps this year and maybe a young
28:51
Speaker 1: double a pitcher for the for the down the road,
28:53
Speaker 1: or something that's certainly possible. And like you said, Tim,
28:57
Speaker 1: they traded from their major league roster twenty twenty two.
29:00
Speaker 1: Of course, that when they were kind of a.
29:02
Speaker 7: Year ahead of Yeah, but totally thought at that time,
29:05
Speaker 7: oh totally, it's it's not alike for like, And look,
29:08
Speaker 7: I think at least fan perspective of Michael Lias was
29:12
Speaker 7: way up here because the rebuild was going so well
29:15
Speaker 7: compared to where it's at that I understand it's a
29:18
Speaker 7: much different situation, but I do find it fascinating that
29:22
Speaker 7: that team was above five hundred and even closer in
29:25
Speaker 7: the mix and opted to sell and guys.
29:28
Speaker 5: Then, of course there's the Adley Rushman at all. I
29:30
Speaker 5: feel like every single contender is looking for a catcher,
29:33
Speaker 5: but Adley being banged up, he was eligible to come
29:37
Speaker 5: off the aisle today, he didn't obviously, and him and
29:41
Speaker 5: Sam are going to be reevaluated over the weekend at
29:43
Speaker 5: Camden Yards. There's so many moving parts, man, I'm just
29:48
Speaker 5: really interested to see Monday.
29:51
Speaker 1: And three teams that want to catcher are in the
29:53
Speaker 1: Al East's Red Sox raised. That would shock me to
29:59
Speaker 1: see Adleie Reutchman, of all players traded in the division,
30:04
Speaker 1: and he's hurt. You can trade a player on the
30:06
Speaker 1: I l so he could be moved. There's no question
30:09
Speaker 1: that that could happen. I just would be stunned for
30:12
Speaker 1: an Indivision trade of Adlie, and I'd be pretty surprised
30:16
Speaker 1: for any trade, but I would not be surprised in
30:19
Speaker 1: the winner. Now you've got a full year of control
30:22
Speaker 1: every team now kind of can set back and see
30:26
Speaker 1: this labor situation may dictate a lot.
30:29
Speaker 2: Stay tuned, I guess is the best course.
30:32
Speaker 4: Here, right, Yeah, yeah, I think so.
30:34
Speaker 3: It's like we've been talking about it for two three weeks,
30:38
Speaker 3: four weeks. I feel like, what are they gonna do?
30:40
Speaker 3: And we still don't have a have a clue. So
30:42
Speaker 3: if anybody has a crystal ball, send it our way
30:44
Speaker 3: so we could have an idea. But it's gonna be
30:47
Speaker 3: it's gonna be an interesting weekend and it's definitely something
30:49
Speaker 3: to follow and then hopefully Monday we have some exciting
30:52
Speaker 3: news one way or the other what happens. But I
30:54
Speaker 3: don't I just can't imagine this being a blah trade
30:58
Speaker 3: deadline for the Origos.
30:59
Speaker 4: There's just a lot of stuff that happened. I feel
31:00
Speaker 4: like come Monday.
31:03
Speaker 1: So fans stay tuned, keep watching here. In the next
31:05
Speaker 1: few days. We'll have an Oriole guest, special guests coming
31:08
Speaker 1: our way. We'll have our trade Deadline show on Monday
31:11
Speaker 1: after the deadline wraps up, and it's going to be
31:14
Speaker 1: a big weekend in Birdland. The crowd should be great.
31:16
Speaker 1: Orioles Phillies Hall of Fame Weekend spirits will be high
31:19
Speaker 1: in downtown Baltimore. As always, we'll be around to talk
31:23
Speaker 1: about it. Join you next time on Birdland Territory