Latest / AFR Saints / Saints Hire Former Rams HC To Staff | What Roster Moves Are Coming For New Orleans?

Transcript

Saints Hire Former Rams HC To Staff | What Roster Moves Are Coming For New Orleans? · AFR Saints

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: AFR on Demand is brought to you by Breck Golf.
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Try Beaver Creek today, just twenty minutes from downtown Baton
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Rouge in the Zachary area. They've got a PGA toward
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: driving range, a short game practice area, thirty to forty
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: yard practice shots. It's a great place to chip and
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: putt and practice. If you don't have time for a
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: full round, book your tea time today. Golf dot Breck
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: dot org. Golf dot Breck dot org. Busy couple of
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: days for the New Orleans Saints over the weekend, reportedly
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: adding a couple of assistant coaches here on Monday, adding
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: two more, and I might they at least hired Matthew.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Does any of that make sense? Mike Triplet's here? Who
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: makes sense of all of it for us? Mike Tripple
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: at New Orleans dot Football. He's on Twitter ex at
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: Mike Triplet A man, how.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: Are you busy? Couple of days? I remind you the
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: last time there was a non business stretch? I can't remember?
• 0:50
  Speaker 3: Wait there last time there was a what.
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: Non busy stretch for the thing?
• 0:54
  Speaker 3: You remember that?
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: Then? They've been active, man, they've been reshaping.
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: Uh well that comes along with the coaching a new
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: coaching higher, right, I mean you have to remake the
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: whole thing. Let's start with these assistants then. Yeah, Robert Blanton,
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: Jay Rogers, Gary Brown, Scott Lenahan, anything there immediately just
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: jump out at you.
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean Lenahan, right, I mean he was
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: at Montana, so he was he had taken a step
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: back in his coaching career. But that's the former head
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: coach on the staff. It's obviously a young staff. Brandon
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: Staley's also a former head coach, but he's probably gonna
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: have a senior role. He's gonna help with game management.
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: You know. Rizzy comes to mind, Joe Vitt comes to mind.
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: You know, you always want to have those guys on
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: your staff when you're first time head coach. And he's
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: really personal to Kellen Moore. He was actually the offensive
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: coordinator for the Lions when they chose More as an
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: undrafted rookie and then kind of quickly realized he was
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: basically a coach on the field tight and gave him
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of assignments that brought him to Dallas with
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: him that hired him as a coach. So he obviously
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: means a lot to him. It's good to have a
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: guy like that a staff similar to have enough Meyern
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: his staff who's he's you know, worked with for years
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: and years. So he's building the staff he wanted to build,
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: even though even though he was, you know, obviously the
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: last one to start assembli a staff. So that's good
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: to see that he's got his guys with him. He's
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: going to sink or swim with his guys.
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about Gary Brown as well, Mike.
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: You don't typically see lateral moves in the NFL, like.
• 2:25
  Speaker 3: A position coach to a position coach.
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: Brown was a position coach in Pittsburgh and I guess
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: he's going to be a position coach in New Orleans.
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: Make that So that is that is interesting. It's similar
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: to the Joel Thomas move with the Giant. He was
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: the Giants running backs coach and he came back to
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: be the Saints running backs coach. So a lot of time,
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: it could just be based on the relationships that have
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: been built between coaches who wanted to work together and
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: have the timing and the opportunity. So yeah, I will
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: I agree with you that I will be curious to
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: find out what was the genesis behind that one? And mate, look,
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: sometimes maybe Pittsburgh wanted to make a change, you know,
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: and that made him available, But it is it is
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: really always a reminder when these coaching steps are getting built,
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: You're always like, oh no, who's this first time coach
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: going to hire? And it's like, usually it's going to
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: be experienced veterans who are on the other twelve staffs
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: around the league that just got laid off, you know,
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: Kobek Lambs in Seattle, and you know, these guys are
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: always available, even when they're good.
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: Mike Triplet's here speaking of the guy's getting laid off.
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: Sol report over the weekend about the Saints possibly releasing
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew, Like, I understand he had a production decline,
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: but when I look at his contract, his dead number
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: is higher than his cap hit. So make this make sense?
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: Like why would that make sense to part ways with
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: hiring at this point?
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that one doesn't make a ton of
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: sense to me, And I had not heard that they're
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: planning to do that, so we have not reported that ourselves.
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: But I mean, everything's got to be on the same
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: It was this defense this year. I mean I don't
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: think Tomorrow Davis is going anywhere, but I don't think
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: anyone from that defense should be safe considering they're they're
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: changing all the coaches, they're changing the scheme, and they
• 4:13
  Speaker 2: have cap issues. So anything like that that would save
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: a little money and get younger and get cheaper and
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: maybe get better and maybe be thinking about the future.
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: I'm never gonna dismiss it out of hand. From everything
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: I've been able to gather, I kind of think Kim
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: Jordan winds up back here. I kind of think Taysom
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: Hill winds up staying here with a pay cut. I
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: think Kyra Manthick kind of already took his pay cut
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: last year, and then Tomorrow Davis already took his pay
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: cut last year. So I think those guys stay. Obviously,
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: I think Alvin Kamaras stays. But but none of that
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: would would surprise me. So that could be that could
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: be speculation turned into a report. But I agree with you,
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: they would not save a ton of money with Tyron,
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: who already reduced the salary.
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: Quite a bit last year that they.
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: Well, you and I have had this conversation so many
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: times over the years about how they can make it
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: work to get within cap compliance. So what I'm sure
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: you've probably already gotten the you know, the back of
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: the napkin and done the math on this. What would
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: make sense if you keep cam Jordan and taste him
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: and tyring in Kamara? Like, what are the moves that
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: would make sense, notably to get within cap compliance?
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean you could do it. You could restructure
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: the top just the simple restructure what they do every year,
• 5:30
  Speaker 2: which is, you know that the best comp is probably
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: the you know, getting the new credit card and just
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: transferring the balance. So now I don't have to worry
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: about it for another year, you know, except there's no interest,
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: you know, no interest involved when you do that. They've
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: been doing it for twelve years now. So just the
• 5:47
  Speaker 2: old simple restructure route, this money will still be waiting
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: for him again next year. You could, you could get
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: under the fifty they need to get under with four guys.
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: You could. You could do it with the top four
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: salaries and it will be no problem. So so it
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: won't be any problem. You know, they don't have to
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: cut anybody to get under the cap. But I do
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: think they're also going to look at all, right, let's
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: stop spending money, actually spending money so that next year's
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: cap looks a little better. I think a pay cut
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: will definitely happen with Taysom Hill. It'll definitely happen with
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: Kim Jordan if he stays. The only way Kim Jordan
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: would leave is if they don't have the role he wants,
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: you know, if he's not going to have a Russia passer,
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: if they only envision as an interior rusher on rundowns,
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: then he might want to leave. But otherwise, I think
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: the Pike cut works out with him, and I think
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: there's a good chance they work on to pick cut
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: with Derek Carr too, and there's some money there. I
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: think everybody wrecked. Even though he said he didn't want to.
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: Maybe they can find something win win, guarantee a little
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: bit more money in his bonus next year if it's
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: a parting gift. You know, he wouldn't make forty million
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: on the open market, so I'm sure he recognizes that.
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe they promised to spend them money and fortify around
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: him on offense if he sees it as a win win.
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: But I bet they end up saving a little money
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: on his contract. So that's all real saving, that's not
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: just pushing money around, that's real saving. And then guys
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: that might cut, Yeah, guys they might cut. I think
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: that'll only be if it's a football decision. Jamal Williams
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: seems like an obvious one. I'm wondering about Nathan Shepherd
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: and Colin Saunders depending on the vision of the new
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: defense and guys like that. But I don't think, you know,
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: we we've never really seen the Saints cut someone because
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: they can't figure out any other way to get under
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: the cap. They will cut them only if it's a
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: football decision.
• 7:38
  Speaker 3: Do you think that could be the plan With Tyron Matthew.
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: It could be. It would be Tyron Manview would only
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: be cut if the Saints look at him and they say,
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: you know, we didn't like what we saw in the
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: field last year. He's not a seven eight million dollar
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: player anymore. We've got to move on. And I'd be
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: a little surprised. I don't think they would do it
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: just because, man and we got to get under the caps,
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: so we have to cut Tyra Matthew. It would be
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: this player's not worth this much money anymore, and you
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: know he's not making that much, so I'd be a
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: little surprised his cap.
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: I can't rule that his cap pits eleven three, but
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: the dead number, Mike is thirteen to eight. So if
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: you cut him, you'd actually it would cost you effectively.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: You tell me if I'm wrong, it would effectively cost
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: you more to cut him than it would keep it.
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you could always make a player at
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: June first cut and paying half of that this year
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: or half of it next year. So you're still saving
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: the money that you're saving by not paying in this
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: salary in the long term. That's why you would do it.
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: But again, you don't do it just to get under
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: the cap by next week. You don't do it for
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: that reason. You do it if you if you feel like,
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: you know, we shouldn't write a check for this much
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: money to this player anymore.
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: A couple more for you, Mike Schulpltz, our guest New
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: Orleans Dot Football.
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: You.
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: I know you and Nicker both at the combine and
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: Indy coming out of the combine. Is there a player
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: or position based on when your eyes saw in the
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: conversations you had that maybe started to crystallize a little
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: bit for New Orleans for the draft.
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: No, and I'm about to do this position needs preview
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: and I have a ten way time for first place.
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how to say everything of it?
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: Last year I could have told you this early. Probably,
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we can go back and find
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: the staves how early I probably seen your bull time
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: it became no. I think it was after the first
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: wave of free agency when it became obvious, all right,
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: they're drafting their left tackle in the draft. They were
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: installing a new offensive scheme. They had not addressed it yet.
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: In free agency. It was so obvious, and they were like,
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of good ones available in the
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: top twelve or whatever. I mean, everybody doing in my
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: draft was putting one of these left tackles on the
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: Saint Trusts here. I cannot. I cannot do that. I mean,
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: maybe it'll crystallize a little more after free agency when
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: they filled some other holes. Maybe they'll fill one so
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: you know convincingly that you can take it off the board.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: But boy, I just you know everything they need a
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: defensive end, a defensive tackle, a receiver, a tight end,
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: and a left guard could use the right tackle. I mean,
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: they just quarterbacks. Man out of the realm of possibility
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: is just this year's draft board that makes quarterbacks seem unlikely.
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: But no, it's everything. It's even running back is on
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: the board if they really love gent at number nine.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: But I mean, there's there's nothing I can take off
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: my board based on the Saints right now. And you
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: know that's good. You know you don't force yourself into
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: a decision. But it's bad for the obvious reason.
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: Where would you start in free agency? Like starting from
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: scratch as a player. There money to.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: Spend agency, I don't. I don't spend huge in free
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: agency certainly, and I don't spend on an old guy
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: in free agency. I am not worried about just the
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five s things. You know, I'm not filling
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: a hole with an expense. Know I am not signing
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: Davante Adams to fill the receiver need. Now. I actually
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: think their salary cap outlook. I did a piece on
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: this a couple of weeks ago with with the rise
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: and the cap and the expect to as I go
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: their their their salary cap outlook is not that bad
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: long term. So if they see a twenty seven year
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: old guy that they think can be a part, you
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: know that they want to sign to a four year
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: deal because you know, he's going to be a part
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: of this this year's team, but also a part of
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: what they rebuild into in the future. I wouldn't have
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: a problem with that, But I'm not just plugging holes
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: with you know, expensive thirty five year old guys that
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: that that's still my most immediate need. They need to
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: get younger. They need to get young talents. So I mean, look,
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: defensive end is huge. I'm really curious how much what
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: they think of their defensive lineman because they're going to
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: bring in this new front with Brandon Staley, not not
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: drastically changing to a three four, like they need a
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: big three hundred and fifty pound nose tackle and two
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: two hundred and forty pounds pass rushers. You know, you
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: can do it a lot of different ways, but they
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: might not like the guys that they have right now,
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: and they might want to bring in three or four
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: new guys. So I think the defensive line, maybe left
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: guard are positions you could consider in free agency. Maybe
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: an X receiver if there's one they really like. They're
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: obviously very expensive, but those would maybe be free agency
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: holes to fill. It definitely tight end. Maybe that's pre
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: agency and the draft. They have a lot of needs
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: at tight end, especially if they don't bring back John Johnson.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the only good thing about having so many needs
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: is it's hard to miss, so dark.
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: Mike Triplett, you really don't.
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: Force yourself into a hole.
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: Right, completely, New Orleans dot Football. You'll goodbye.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: Read the stuff over there makesure you follow Mike at
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: Mike Triplett and we appreciate it as always.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you,