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Evan Grant on deGrom’s revival, Jung sent down, Pillar’s comments · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: If they're going to be a quote unquote seller, they're
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Speaker 1: not going to sell Jacob deGrom. They're not going to
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Speaker 1: sell Nathan Valde. Chris Young said in flat words to
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Speaker 1: me the other day, we have no interest in trading
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Speaker 1: either of those guys.
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Speaker 2: Evan Grant is here from the Dallas Morning News back
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Speaker 2: on FT. Evan, good to see you. I'm gonna give
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Speaker 2: you dealer's choice here to start. Would you like to
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Speaker 2: start with Jacob de Grom glass half full or Josh
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Speaker 2: Young disappointment to go down to the miners.
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Speaker 1: I think Ranger fans need some good news, so let's
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Speaker 1: talk about de Grom. Let's start off with Jacob.
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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you got for us? How good does
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Speaker 2: he look? And how surprised are you that he's on
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Speaker 2: pace for probably what about one hundred and sixty seventy innings?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think he is. I think the Rangers feel
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Speaker 1: like one sixty to one point eighty is is a
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Speaker 1: load that they feel like he can carry. I've got
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Speaker 1: my own thoughts that you know, they might want to
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Speaker 1: keep it in the one the area at a max,
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Speaker 1: but they certainly have more more background in this than
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Speaker 1: I do. He looks as good as he's ever looked. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the fastball is not one hundred miles an hour, but
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Speaker 1: the command is right where you want it to be.
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Speaker 1: He's incorporated the change up again, which he had kind
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Speaker 1: of gone away from during the injury filled years. The
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Speaker 1: body language for me is something that's that's really eye
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Speaker 1: opening because it just feels like Jacob is happy, content
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Speaker 1: and really confident with who he is again. And it
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Speaker 1: showed up what is is. Since June one, I think
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Speaker 1: he's five and oh with a one six oh or
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Speaker 1: one six five e r A, he has been outstanding.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 1: It's it's Ace type material, you know it is. It's
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Speaker 1: a true number one, and it's something Ranger fans haven't
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Speaker 1: really ever had.
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Speaker 4: Evan.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned his innings limit, he's already hat of our hundred,
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Speaker 3: one hundred and one right now. If the Rangers are
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Speaker 3: going to get back into this and say they get hot,
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Speaker 3: like they're swinging the back and they continue to this
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Speaker 3: and they get back into the race, let's say they
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Speaker 3: get into the wild card, but then they're like, oh,
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Speaker 3: by the way, da Gram has six more starts, seven
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Speaker 3: more starts. They're going to really shut him down and say, oh, well, guys,
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Speaker 3: we're not going to push it because that's kind of
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Speaker 3: the Steven Strassburg thing, right. The Rangers, I feel like
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Speaker 3: Boachie and them would try to, I don't know, they
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Speaker 3: try to manipulate the innings because they need the innings too.
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Speaker 1: I think. Look, since really since the middle of May
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Speaker 1: he had that I think one hundred and three pitch outing,
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Speaker 1: which was the first time he's been over one hundred
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Speaker 1: and like four years. Ever since then, the Rangers have
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Speaker 1: tried to tamp it down a little bit, keeping him
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Speaker 1: in the eighty to eighty five pitch range. Obviously, with
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Speaker 1: the no hitter flirtation last week, they wouldn't they let
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Speaker 1: him go a little bit longer. I think he threw
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Speaker 1: ninety two pitches that in that game at Baltimore. But
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Speaker 1: the one thing that Bruce Bochi and Chris Young have
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Speaker 1: both talked about is, you know, they are monitoring the
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Speaker 1: pitch count, and so that is part of it. I
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Speaker 1: think that they are going to stay true to the
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Speaker 1: rotation with every off day that they have the rest
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Speaker 1: of the way, so that he never, if he ever
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Speaker 1: gets an opportunity to pitch on five days rest, he'll
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Speaker 1: pitch on five days rest, and I think there's there
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Speaker 1: may be a time when the Rangers look at, especially
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Speaker 1: with some of the relief work they've gotten from guys
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Speaker 1: like Jacob Wlatz, who one day has a six inning
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Speaker 1: quality start and a week later has a three inning save,
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Speaker 1: they could drop some guys in here for a spot
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Speaker 1: start here or there to get them a little bit
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Speaker 1: extra ress. So I think that they are aware of
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Speaker 1: all this. I think they understand the situation, but they're
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Speaker 1: certainly not going to let a situation about a rise
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Speaker 1: where he's not able to pitch, like in the heat
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Speaker 1: of the playoff stretch or the postseason.
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Speaker 4: You have mentioned earlier that de Gram's not throwing that
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Speaker 4: one hundred miles an hour. He's hit one hundred, he's
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Speaker 4: gone over one hundred. Is there a concerted effort or
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Speaker 4: have you heard anybody say that he has had a
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Speaker 4: concerted effort to pitch, more like to not just say
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Speaker 4: first pitch of the game one hundred and one mile
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Speaker 4: hour cutter.
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Speaker 1: I think he said it, Eric, he said he's pitching smarter.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't need to dial up one hundred miles an
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Speaker 1: hour every time, doesn't need to look at the radar
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Speaker 1: readings and listen, Yeah, it's it's ninety eight and a half,
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Speaker 1: I think is his average fastball, and it's got such
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Speaker 1: great late life when he's when he's going up in
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Speaker 1: the zone and that I don't think you can tell
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Speaker 1: much of a difference, and it's certainly working. And so
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Speaker 1: I do think that there's this idea that you know,
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Speaker 1: you don't have to prove to everybody that you throw
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Speaker 1: harder than anybody on the planet. You can you can
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Speaker 1: still be the best pitcher on the planet, as Joonaheim
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Speaker 1: called him the other night, without throwing one hundred and
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Speaker 1: two miles an hour.
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Speaker 3: Well, he's going to the All Star Game and he's back.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's back as long as he's healthy. This
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Speaker 3: is always the Jacob Degram that we knew. So whether
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Speaker 3: he's stowing a hundred or ninety eight, it's not that
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Speaker 3: big of a difference.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's back.
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Speaker 3: But let's let's we gotta we gotta talk about a
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Speaker 3: little bit sadder news. Josh Young got sent down. I mean,
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Speaker 3: what do you say about this? Because this guy was
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Speaker 3: the future. He was so good in the World Series.
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Speaker 3: He's kind of had injury problems and now they're talking
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Speaker 3: about giving him a break for a swing in his approach.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's never really changed his approach. He's always
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Speaker 3: kind of swung in a lot of pitches, he's made contact.
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Speaker 3: So what do you tell him go down there and
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Speaker 3: take walks? I don't really understand.
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Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing right now aj for him is,
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Speaker 1: you know, Josh and a number of the Rangers hitters.
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Speaker 1: And I think Boch's perspective on this is that guys
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Speaker 1: that were not getting down on time and because of it,
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Speaker 1: they were trying to catch up, and they were They've
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Speaker 1: been really susceptible to fastballs up and the end and
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Speaker 1: out of the zone. I think the Rangers lead the
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Speaker 1: major leagues in swings at that pitch, and Josh is
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Speaker 1: as bad as any of them. And I don't think
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Speaker 1: the idea is to go down to have him go
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Speaker 1: down to tripa A and learn how to walk. But
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Speaker 1: I do think it is like, hey, let's dial things
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Speaker 1: back a little bit and let us eliminate a couple
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Speaker 1: of pitches that you don't need to be chasing. Let's
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Speaker 1: get you back on time, and let's try and eliminate
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Speaker 1: a couple of pitches that put you in bad situations. Listen,
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Speaker 1: last year when he broke the wrist. He broke the
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Speaker 1: wrist because he exposed himself on a swing on a
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Speaker 1: pitch that was off the plate. And that's a dangerous
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Speaker 1: situation for him. So I think that is one of
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Speaker 1: the projects there. I do think that this is a
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Speaker 1: guy who is swing happy, There's no doubt about that.
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Speaker 1: But I also think you look at Josh, he's a
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Speaker 1: streaky hitter, and so if he's not going well and
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Speaker 1: he doesn't walk, then what you get is what you
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Speaker 1: got in June, which is an absolute zero. The Rangers
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Speaker 1: can't have that. I think they've got to teach him
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Speaker 1: a little bit more plate discipline, not going up there
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Speaker 1: searching for water. I don't expect him to become an
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Speaker 1: on base machine, but I do expect them to try
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Speaker 1: and get him to hone his approach just a little bit.
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Speaker 4: How is this something that wasn't able to be taught
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Speaker 4: to a to me? I thought a star like aj
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Speaker 4: said in the big leagues? Is it inconsistency from the
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Speaker 4: what he's getting from the hitting staff. I know it
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Speaker 4: is a different hitting coach. Now is it him going
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Speaker 4: outside of the hit the hitting coaches? Is it? Where
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Speaker 4: where is that falling? And who is to blame? Ultimately
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Speaker 4: the players to blame. But the organization needs to be
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Speaker 4: able to teach him this and get this across to
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Speaker 4: him in a big league level.
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Speaker 1: Eric, how do I put this? For so many players
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Speaker 1: that I have covered over my career, stubbornness is their
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Speaker 1: greatest asset and it remains their greatest asset because they
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Speaker 1: know who they are, and they know themselves better than
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Speaker 1: anybody else until it becomes a detriment. And I think
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Speaker 1: that's the case with Josh, as it is with so
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Speaker 1: many players. He really does feel like he knows himself
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Speaker 1: pretty well, and I think he's he's gotten himself into
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Speaker 1: a rough spot and now he's going to have to
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Speaker 1: learn how to be able to accept some other voices,
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Speaker 1: accept some other input, and maybe accept some other thoughts
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Speaker 1: a little bit better. And that's a big adjustment to
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Speaker 1: your point, right, This is the guy who came out
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Speaker 1: in twenty three, was really hot the first half of
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Speaker 1: the year. But he he was hot, He was hot
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Speaker 1: at the plate. He didn't walk a ton, but he's
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Speaker 1: never walked a ton. And I think it's now being
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Speaker 1: exposed more that he's been in the lineup every day
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Speaker 1: as opposed to the second half of twenty four or
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Speaker 1: all of twenty four, when he was really out of
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Speaker 1: the lineup. For most of the year and the second
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Speaker 1: half of twenty three when he dealt with that fracture finger.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what are they going to do Is Josh Smith's
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Speaker 3: going to take over at third base every day? Is
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Speaker 3: that there is that kind of their answer? What's their
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Speaker 3: I think.
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Speaker 1: Josh Smith is going to get a of time at
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Speaker 1: third base, you know, against lefties. I think they will
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Speaker 1: play Ezekiel Durant at third base. They'd like to get
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Speaker 1: a Zeke. They'd like to get Zeke a little bit
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Speaker 1: more runway. He's still a guy that they feel like
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Speaker 1: there is real talent there. He's just not had much
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Speaker 1: every day play for the last two years, and I
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Speaker 1: think the Rangers would like to get him in a
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Speaker 1: little bit of a groove. And they've played him a
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Speaker 1: little bit more regularly over the last week. So I
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Speaker 1: think those would be two options. But I don't think
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Speaker 1: that this Josh Young situation is going to be a
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Speaker 1: long term deal. I could see this last thing until
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Speaker 1: the All Star break and he's back when they when
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Speaker 1: they face Detroit and his brother Jase in the middle
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Speaker 1: of the month. But that's I think that is the
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Speaker 1: intent right now. Is it's it's a very much along
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Speaker 1: the lines of what they did with Jake Berger early
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Speaker 1: in the year, where Jake had gotten himself into a
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Speaker 1: position where he was not who he should be and
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Speaker 1: he was chasing far too much. They sent him to
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Speaker 1: round Rock. He was there ten days the absolute minimum,
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Speaker 1: came back and he's been a much better hitter since
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Speaker 1: he came back. Sometimes you just need to step away
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Speaker 1: a little bit, right.
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Speaker 4: That's always good. Stepping away is always good. Are they
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Speaker 4: just step away from any of their players at the
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Speaker 4: trade deadline?
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Speaker 1: God, you become such a master of the segue.
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Speaker 4: It was your words. I used your words, it's not mine.
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Speaker 2: He's an everyday host.
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Speaker 1: Words and turned him into a segue. Do I think though?
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Speaker 1: I look, I think there's still a lot to be determined.
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Speaker 1: They are a game under five hundred right now, but
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Speaker 1: only two and a half games out of that last
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Speaker 1: wildcard spot. I don't know that they have proven to
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Speaker 1: anybody exactly who they are unless it's a team that's
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Speaker 1: not nearly as offensively talented as they thought they were.
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Speaker 1: The last three or four games have been nice, but
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Speaker 1: it's also been against a team that fired its manager
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Speaker 1: and is really not going anywhere. They've got this tough
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Speaker 1: road trip that starts with San Diego on Friday. They
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Speaker 1: finish up with their first three games against the in Houston,
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Speaker 1: and at that point in time, I think they'll have
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Speaker 1: a better idea at the break which way they're going
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Speaker 1: to go. If they're gonna make trades, If they're going
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Speaker 1: to be a quote unquote seller, They're not going to
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Speaker 1: sell Jacob deGrom. They're not going to sell Nathan Avaladi.
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Speaker 1: Chris Young said in flat words to me the other day,
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Speaker 1: we have no interest in trading either of those guys.
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Speaker 1: So and with Tyler Mallley out and probably out at
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Speaker 1: least until the first September, that's a pitching arm that
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Speaker 1: they don't have much ability to move. So I would
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Speaker 1: look if John Gray gets back at the All Star
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Speaker 1: break or shortly thereafter, and they get a couple of
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Speaker 1: outings from him, maybe he's a guy they could move.
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Speaker 1: I think there would be some thought if this team
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Speaker 1: continues to fall that maybe they'd consider moving a Doley Scarcia,
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Speaker 1: though I don't know what kind of value he would
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Speaker 1: get at this point in time, and they've certainly got
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Speaker 1: a number of veteran bullpen pieces who have been really
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Speaker 1: effective this year from Hoby Milner, who would be a
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Speaker 1: nice left handed fit for a lot of teams, to
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Speaker 1: Sean Armstrong and Jacob Webb. I don't know if they
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Speaker 1: would trade Robert Barcia at this point in time, but
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Speaker 1: I think they'd certainly Listen.
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Speaker 3: Okay, we don't have time right now, but I was
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Speaker 3: going to ask you what's going on Jonaheim and Higashioka,
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Speaker 3: because neither one of them and we thought was going
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Speaker 3: to be a star, and he hurt his wrist and
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Speaker 3: he has him in the same sense. It's been all
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Speaker 3: year now. So we'll have to get into that. Because
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Speaker 3: since you're leader in all time appearances as a reporter,
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Speaker 3: next time we'll we'll get you on like a week
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Speaker 3: or two. I'll have to ask you about those guys.
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Speaker 3: But what I want to talk about is you mentioned
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Speaker 3: Chris Young. Chris Young's been in the newspaper a lot
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Speaker 3: more than he wanted to, especially the last twenty four
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Speaker 3: hours with what Kevin Palar said. Now, I was sitting
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Speaker 3: there when Kevin Plar said it. He didn't mean anything
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Speaker 3: bad about by what he said at all. He was
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Speaker 3: just giving his thoughts on basically what he thought was
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Speaker 3: going on there. And I've heard this from not only him,
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Speaker 3: but other teams too. Guys don't take VP, Guys don't
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Speaker 3: stretch together. Guys don't really do anything together except for
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Speaker 3: that nine innings when they're on the field, and then
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Speaker 3: as soon as the game's over, everyone breaks up. It's
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Speaker 3: not just a Rangers thing, It's kind of an MLB
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Speaker 3: thing and the way guys are brought up. Chris Young
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Speaker 3: had to answer. Then the Rangers won, they did. Rangers
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Speaker 3: social media kind of trolled Polar like, he didn't mean
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Speaker 3: this mean, he was just given his observations. What are
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Speaker 3: your thoughts? And I saw you wrote an article about it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look what Kevin said was all when
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Speaker 1: you have a guy talking about the makeup of the club,
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Speaker 1: that's obviously a news story. And I didn't think Kevin
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Speaker 1: meant anything in terms of ripping anybody in particular. But yes,
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Speaker 1: the Rangers do have some guys who do have their
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Speaker 1: own hitting coaches and who do their own routine before games,
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Speaker 1: and that when it's successful, great, When it's not, you know,
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Speaker 1: people start to look for is that a problem with makeup?
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Speaker 1: We look at did this team having a fun when
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Speaker 1: it went? When it wins? In twenty three, the narrative was, Hey,
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Speaker 1: this team is all business, doesn't get too high, doesn't
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Speaker 1: get too low. When you don't win, or when you're
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Speaker 1: not winning as much and you don't show a whole
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Speaker 1: lot of emotion, then it's are they flat? Do they
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Speaker 1: not have good energy? Do they have bad body language?
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Speaker 1: So I think it all the narrative changes. I don't
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Speaker 1: think anything with the circumstances has changed significantly much. I
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Speaker 1: do think that Chris Young, and he's been on record,
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Speaker 1: he told me this last week that he wants to
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Speaker 1: see more connectivity in the offensive approach. You know, I
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Speaker 1: think this is as you said, Aga, it's something that
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Speaker 1: goes on throughout baseball now. Right, Guys take there at bats,
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Speaker 1: they go back to the dugout, they get right into
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Speaker 1: the iPads and they're analyzing their swing. And there is
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Speaker 1: not that ability for guys to talk basictions, or to
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Speaker 1: read pictures, or to have some feedback for everybody else
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Speaker 1: because they're so involved with themselves. And I think, you know,
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Speaker 1: Chris Young is kind of an old soul. I think
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Speaker 1: he wants to see that team element function a little
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Speaker 1: bit better. And so I think that's something that Kevin
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Speaker 1: talked about that that is real, and it's real for
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Speaker 1: every team. That is the thing that I think that
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Speaker 1: needs to be reiterated here is I think this is something.
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Speaker 1: This is why we've seen offensive approach dwindle and offensive
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Speaker 1: numbers dwindle. I think because there isn't a better approach
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Speaker 1: throughout the game to game situations and peam oriented bats
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Speaker 1: and doing what you need to do to make sure
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Speaker 1: you maximize run scoring opportunities.
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Speaker 2: From a fan perspective, yeah, it is crazy to actually
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Speaker 2: hear someone say I don't see most of my teammates
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Speaker 2: until I step on the field for game time. And again,
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Speaker 2: that's something that I know spans all of Major League Baseball,
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Speaker 2: although there are some teams that have a lot more
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Speaker 2: of this than others. My follow up here is does
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Speaker 2: Brett Boone help this at all? Have you seen any
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Speaker 2: change like that since he took over, Because he was
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Speaker 2: on our show after a few days of getting the
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Speaker 2: job and brought up what you're talking about. So again
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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, cool, a team that's playing five hundred
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Speaker 2: ball can use something like this as motivation. But really
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Speaker 2: he showed up and was like, guys, you need to
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Speaker 2: watch the game a little bit more.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I think that's part of the
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Speaker 1: reason that Brett was brought in here was bring in
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Speaker 1: that player's perspective, bring in that guy. Look, Boone Booney
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Speaker 1: told me the story the first week he got here
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Speaker 1: that he related about in a situation with Edgar Martinez
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Speaker 1: when they were both together in Seattle, and Edgar talking
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Speaker 1: about a team approach to a bat that he took
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Speaker 1: when he didn't need to take one, and he's related
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Speaker 1: that to these players, and I think that is all
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Speaker 1: part of the message and part of the reason the
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Speaker 1: Rangers wanted to bring in somebody who had significant major
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Speaker 1: league playing experience so that they could talk to the
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Speaker 1: players at the same level that they are dealing with,
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Speaker 1: who has dealt with the same issues that they are
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Speaker 1: dealing with. I don't I would take some exception of
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Speaker 1: the to the note that you know, you don't see
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Speaker 1: anybody until game time. There's still plenty of guys out
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Speaker 1: there taking VP. There's plenty of guys out there taking infield.
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Speaker 1: They have they have hitter meetings. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: they're doing hitter meetings every game at this point in time.
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Speaker 1: I think you can also over meet a little bit,
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Speaker 1: and I think you can in some ways paralyze your
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Speaker 1: hitters with too much information. But I do think that yeah,
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Speaker 1: to your point, Scott, that Brett was brought in here
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Speaker 1: to help create that level of hey, we're all in
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Speaker 1: this together. And I think that was something that Chris
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Speaker 1: Young saw early on that he wanted to address.
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Speaker 2: Having good stuff. Always great to have you on and confirmed.
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Speaker 2: I think you are tied right now or one up
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Speaker 2: and now I got to look back.
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Speaker 1: I think I'm taking a lead over Trent again today.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there you go. Yep, one up over see
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Speaker 2: Trent for most non insider you know, Ken Rosenthal type appearances,
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Speaker 2: that's that's different. But I think lucky number thirteen having
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Speaker 2: good to see you, man.
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Speaker 1: It's great seeing you guys. And I'll just point out
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Speaker 1: Trent and I both University of Georgia fans top of
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Speaker 1: the list. You know where to go for information.
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Speaker 4: Oh there, worry.
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Speaker 3: I'm coming to Texas twice in the second half, so
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Speaker 3: I'll expect the royal treatment from you.
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Speaker 1: You will get it. After I finished this wrestling story
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Speaker 1: that I'm working on for aw's big show in Texas
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Speaker 1: next week.
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Speaker 3: Oh exact glovelife too.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. We'll be on the lookout.
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Speaker 2: Dallas Morning News Evan Grant give him a follow on
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Speaker 2: Twitter as well. Evan, thank you.
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Speaker 1: See y'all. Take care of peace.