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172. Jeanne de Clisson - Lioness of Brittany · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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Speaker 1: Hello, delicious friends, and welcome to Who Did What Now?
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Speaker 1: The history podcast That's not your history class with me,
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Speaker 1: your host Katie Charlwood, History Harlotte, and we are all books.
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Speaker 1: So if you're thinking, oh, you're sounding a wee bit
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Speaker 1: And so my mum, my kids and I all went
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Speaker 1: Dublin Zoo, the wild lights, and it's like very pretty
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Speaker 1: we did a little you know trip round trip round Dublin.
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Speaker 1: We got some nice hot chocolate and a wee Italian place.
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Speaker 1: We took a walk round Stephen's Green because my kids
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Speaker 1: then we got some more decorations for our tree. So
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Speaker 1: my Christmas tree, it is not organized in anyway. It's
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Speaker 1: it's very full of memories and nothing is coordinated, and
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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it sort of chaos, but
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Speaker 1: it's also like our history. So yeah, we went to
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Speaker 1: see CG five. It was my son's first concert and
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Speaker 1: there's like a whole thing where you have to scream
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Speaker 1: and shout. It's like his penultimate show of his European tour.
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Speaker 1: He's got like one more left, which is I think
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Speaker 1: tonight of time of recording and so we went. We
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Speaker 1: saw that it was a great time. It was, it
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Speaker 1: was great. I think it was a really good experience
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Speaker 1: for his first concert. Turns out I knew some of
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Speaker 1: the songs because he did a few covers and also
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Speaker 1: he sang he sang a song by Fleetwood Mac and
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Speaker 1: I was like, I know of that one. But also like,
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Speaker 1: I actually knew one of his own songs, which I
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Speaker 1: was shocked at because I don't know new things. Like
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Speaker 1: I don't know new things. I'm an old lady. I
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Speaker 1: like my murder she wrote my Worther's Originals a jigsaw
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Speaker 1: like I have Kate Bushelpe's. Granted, I inherited them from
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Speaker 1: my mother. She's not dead. She just doesn't own a
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Speaker 1: record player. I mean, ne do I, But I'm going
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Speaker 1: to get one that's cute as fuck. But anyway, I
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Speaker 1: know what you're thinking. You're thinking, Katie, quite your Jebel
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Speaker 1: Jabba in fact me, In fact you, I will. But
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Speaker 1: first we've got to get our source on. Our sources
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Speaker 1: are The one Hundred Years War by Anne Curry, The
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Speaker 1: Flame of Brittany by Niles Vissen and Wilka Sneider, The
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Speaker 1: Language and Meaning of Treason in Later Medieval France by
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Speaker 1: Michael Jones. Le Rem de Bardage by Gerrade e Jeger,
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Speaker 1: sim de la Mere by Anne de Dervis, Jean de Bervie,
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Speaker 1: la Verrier, Balistois by Astrid de Belville. Then Pirad Lizzie
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Speaker 1: Cumuse de Mer by marieevs Dinmi, Jean de be Vus
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Speaker 1: by Emil Piont, and Medieval Elite Women and the Exercises
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Speaker 1: of Power eleven hundred to fourteen hundred by Katherine E. Searson.
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Speaker 1: And of course we have our old friends biography dot
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Speaker 1: Then late's begin as we continue our month of piracy.
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Speaker 1: We have sailed away from the Caribbean and gone back
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Speaker 1: in time to the medieval period, which is like an
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Speaker 1: era of time that I don't talk about too much
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Speaker 1: because my sort of main focus of history actually starts
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Speaker 1: sort of after the medieval period. But some of the
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Speaker 1: stuff is so interesting, and there's some people in this
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Speaker 1: story that we will be talking about another time. But
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Speaker 1: the Lioness of Brittany, how could I not How could
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Speaker 1: I not talk about the Lioness of Brittany when we're
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Speaker 1: talking about pirates, I mean a lot of our life
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Speaker 1: is now just mythologized. So I've tried to stick with
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Speaker 1: as much sort of verifiable evidence as I could. That
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Speaker 1: being said, anything that I do think is a bit fluffy,
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Speaker 1: I will mention. And also when you don't have enough
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Speaker 1: facts to prove something either way, I think we just
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Speaker 1: go with whatever's coolest. I mean, if we do it
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Speaker 1: for men all the time, why not women. So I
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Speaker 1: hope you're ready for Jeanne de Cressants, the Lioness of Brittany.
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Speaker 1: Jean Louis de belle Ville Dan de Montague was born
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Speaker 1: in thirteen hundred in Billeville, Sylvie. This is in the
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Speaker 1: Vindy in the Carson in Brittany. I love that sort
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Speaker 1: of it's such a habit of As we continue our
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Speaker 1: piracy month this December, we sail away from the Caribbean
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Speaker 1: and go back in time a few centuries to medieval Europe.
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Speaker 1: Now this is this is a really fun treat for
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Speaker 1: me because I never usually go that far back. It's
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Speaker 1: rare for me to do anything this medieval. And I've
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Speaker 1: touched on a few things like I think eleanor Vaquade.
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Speaker 1: As we continue our Piracy month, we sail away from
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Speaker 1: the Caribbean and go back in time a few centuries
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Speaker 1: to medieval europe An area, where I don't get to
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Speaker 1: spend a lot of time because a lot of my
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Speaker 1: education and knowledge would start that sort of modern period,
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Speaker 1: sort of like Renaissance onwards. Really, so this would not
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Speaker 1: be what I would call it tip of my tongue histories.
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Speaker 1: So I had to do a lot more like background
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Speaker 1: checking and you know, correlating and just making sure that
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Speaker 1: everything made a bit more sense. So that was really
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Speaker 1: fun for me. But pirates, How could I talk about
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Speaker 1: pirates and not mention the Lioness of Brittany. Oh am,
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Speaker 1: I ready to talk about Jeane de Croissants. I would
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Speaker 1: also like to formally apologize to only French speakers or
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Speaker 1: people from France, because I know I'm horse, but my
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Speaker 1: accent is gonna go wibbly wobbly wondles here.
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Speaker 2: So just remember I'm trying my best.
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Speaker 1: Jean Louise de Bellevie Dan de Montague was born in
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Speaker 1: thirteen hundred in Belleville's Sylvie. This is like in the
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Speaker 1: Vindy in the Gastinevi India in Brittany. So she was
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Speaker 1: born to Latiste de Bertinae of Patine, which is from
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Speaker 1: the nou Verra Coutin region in western France. And she
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Speaker 1: was the second wife of Maurice Montague of bervi Empiliu.
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Speaker 1: So you know that Jeanne is from a noble family
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Speaker 1: because one of how long her surname is and two
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Speaker 1: because we have a year of birth of a woman.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. In the fourteenth century of all things. Oh,
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Speaker 1: the dey Montague family where they were noble, they were
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Speaker 1: known as a signior family, so signor means sort of lord.
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Speaker 1: They would have a tidy income from things like wine
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Speaker 1: making in France. I know, you're shocked. So because of
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Speaker 1: the region they were in, they would have sort of
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Speaker 1: like merchants, wine making, all these kind of things because
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Speaker 1: they would trade a lot with like the Iberian Peninsula
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Speaker 1: because it's just over there and it's good for treade.
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Speaker 1: So she was the second child to make it to
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Speaker 1: adulthood of Maurice cat Montague, so he's the fourth cat.
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Speaker 1: She had an older brother, also called Maurice, because lineage
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Speaker 1: is a thing, so Maurice's cat Montague. He was from
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Speaker 1: her father's first marriage to C. B. Dischittelbio, who died
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Speaker 1: at some point of what I'm guessing in all likelihood
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Speaker 1: childbirth related. I mean, it could have been sweating sickness
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Speaker 1: for all I know, but like maybe, I mean, chances
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Speaker 1: are it's likely, it's likely. That's all I'm saying. So
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Speaker 1: that Montague title and all that go with it, all
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Speaker 1: the estates and all of the whole pra they would
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Speaker 1: pass to her half brother when their father died, which
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Speaker 1: happened when Jeanne was four years old. Her mother, ladist
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Speaker 1: de Bartine, was widowed at the age of twenty eight.
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Speaker 2: And never remarried.
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Speaker 1: An interesting thing is it depends on how his estate
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Speaker 1: was willed, because as the widow of a nobleman, there's
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Speaker 1: a possibility that she would be entitled to an income
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Speaker 1: from his estate if she did not remarry, like this
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Speaker 1: can be common in certain levels of nobility. There's also
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Speaker 1: the possibility that, being from this area in France, that
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Speaker 1: she had an inheritance in her own right, like she
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Speaker 1: could have been.
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Speaker 2: Okay, But back.
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Speaker 1: To the Montague. The Montague family, they had been doing
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Speaker 1: well for themselves thanks to their support of Henry the
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Speaker 1: Second of England, Richard the Lionheart Jean Saint, like lots
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Speaker 1: lots of Plantagenet support. Right, so their allegiance to the
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Speaker 1: Plantagenet like for nearly a century, it really helped the
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Speaker 1: family flourish. Right. Being a lady from this well to
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Speaker 1: do family, the senior family, Jeanne would have received an
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Speaker 1: education relevant to her social class. Now that means she
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Speaker 1: could have had a private governess or a teacher of
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Speaker 1: some kind, or there is the possibility that she was
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Speaker 1: educated at a convent like this was common for ladies
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Speaker 1: of this era. I mean remember as well that this
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Speaker 1: is super Catholic France, so religion was a very important
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Speaker 1: part of life. In fairness, for quite a lot of
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Speaker 1: Europe they were super Catholic. Still at this point, the
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Speaker 1: elite were taught religious instruction, basically trained to be pious
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Speaker 1: and to have an understanding of Catholicism and how to
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Speaker 1: be respectful of Catholic teachings. And it's likely as well
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Speaker 1: that she would have understood Latin, as it was the
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Speaker 1: only language the Catholic Bible was printed in at the time.
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Speaker 1: I say printed in. It was written in like it
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Speaker 1: was written and it was in Latin like you it's
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Speaker 1: actually sidebar. This is one of the reasons why Welsh
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Speaker 1: has a greater distribution rate, for example, than say Irish does.
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Speaker 1: And yet I'm seeing it in English, oh Gaelic, right,
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Speaker 1: so international guys, we can use the English word when
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Speaker 1: we're speaking English. So in Wales, because it was not
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Speaker 1: a Catholic country, the Bible was printed in Welsh. But
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Speaker 1: because at the time, like the Catholic Bible could only
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Speaker 1: be printed in Latin. Like if it had been printed
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Speaker 1: in Irish, there would have been a greater spread of
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Speaker 1: the Irish language because Ireland was also a super Catholic country.
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Speaker 1: But that's just that's just a fact. Okay, back to this, right,
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Speaker 1: So in this sort of education of young ladies, they
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Speaker 1: were also trained in domestic management, basically how to manage
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Speaker 1: large households and how to run it if the husband
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Speaker 1: was absent, like if he was away at war, for example.
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Speaker 1: And the higher a woman was in the nobility, the
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Speaker 1: higher the likelihood was that she was literate. Now, of
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Speaker 1: course there were skills that other noble women like learned,
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Speaker 1: like a musical instrument or embroidery, like these were like
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Speaker 1: just expected of you at the time, and that's a
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Speaker 1: very very typical education. Now, sometimes as well, they would
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Speaker 1: be taught languages because I mean, if you've got all
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Speaker 1: these neighboring countries like you've got or I say countries, countries, principalities,
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. You've got people speaking German and French
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Speaker 1: and Spanish and Italian and English, all of these languages
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Speaker 1: that you are conversing in, that you are trading in,
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Speaker 1: that you are meeting dignitaries in. It's wise to know
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Speaker 1: at least some of the languages. And also if you're expected,
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Speaker 1: as a young lady to marry another noble of another nation,
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Speaker 1: then you need to have those language skills. So yeahs
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Speaker 1: as typical and it's likely that she would have had
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Speaker 1: that type of education to be a respectable wife of
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Speaker 1: a nobleman. Like that's the whole thing. It's like this
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Speaker 1: whole thing, sidebar. I've done it again. It's like this
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Speaker 1: thing with Mary, Queen of Scott's It's like everyone forgets
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Speaker 1: that she wasn't trained, she wasn't raised to be a
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Speaker 1: Scottish queen, she wasn't raised to be a queen. She
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Speaker 1: was raised to be a French princess right. She was
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Speaker 1: raised to serve a king and not be a queen
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Speaker 1: in her own right. Even though she was one because
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Speaker 1: it was expected that those would amalgamate, but of course
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Speaker 1: that didn't happen and all chaos insured and we were
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Speaker 1: left with fucking James seems to come up in every episode.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, as I was saying, it's no surprise then
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Speaker 1: that when Jane reached the ripe old age of twelve
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Speaker 1: that she married her first husband, the nineteen year old
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Speaker 1: Breton noble and widower, jeff bray Do Shuttle beriyond Wheat
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Speaker 1: had to count there because I was like, did I
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Speaker 1: at sixties D eight wheat? So yes, the shuttle PRIOND.
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Speaker 1: That's that's come back again, like Sibille Dishittle Brial, who's
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Speaker 1: the first wife of her father. What this noble family
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Speaker 1: has shown up again. Jeffrey had previously been married to
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Speaker 1: Aliks Detier, so this was his second marriage. Although this
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Speaker 1: feels a little bit like keeping it in the family moment.
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Speaker 1: Like I've said it before and I'll say it again,
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Speaker 1: your family tree should not be a wreath when it
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Speaker 1: comes to nobility, right, Young betrothals are not unusual. What
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Speaker 1: is unusual is you know, the actual like face to
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Speaker 1: face wedding happening and then them having children because like
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Speaker 1: you weren't expected to actually have children at that young age.
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Speaker 1: That being said, Jean and Jeffrey, they do go on
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Speaker 1: to have children. Jean gives birth to her first child,
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Speaker 1: a son, at age fourteen fourteen. He is Jeffrey Knui,
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Speaker 1: so he's Jeffrey the ninth. And then two years later
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Speaker 1: she has a daughter, Louise. If they had any more children,
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Speaker 1: they did not survive into adulthood because I could not
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Speaker 1: find any records of anymore. Now, in thirteen twenty six,
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Speaker 1: Jean is widowed and her twelve year old son, Jeffrey
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Speaker 1: inherits his father's estates and titles. So she's twenty six, Okay,
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Speaker 1: she's she's wiled earlier than her mum was, and he
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Speaker 1: was also her husband. So like, there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: widowing happening, like not unusual. People think blended families are
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Speaker 1: a new thing. They're not new. It's just the older
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Speaker 1: ones involved a lot more death. So Jeane she's a
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Speaker 1: widow and she's got a widow's entitlement, which is fine.
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Speaker 1: But the following year, her thirty seven year old half
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Speaker 1: brother Maurice dies without any heirs. So it's Jeanne who
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Speaker 1: inherits the Signory of Montague and bill v She has money,
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Speaker 1: she has land, she has estates, but also she's a
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Speaker 1: woman in the past. So she remarries. And I feel
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Speaker 1: like this was another one of those strategic moves because
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Speaker 1: the guy she marries is the second son of the
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Speaker 1: Duke of Brittany. So two years after her husband's death,
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Speaker 1: she marries Gui de Britzan de Pentiver. She's twenty nine,
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Speaker 1: he's like fifty one, which is not a great age gap,
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Speaker 1: but it's it's not terrible, like it's not the worst.
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Speaker 1: So gee, here he is also a widower, I know, right,
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Speaker 1: Like I said, so many widows in this story. Now, gee,
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Speaker 1: he had been married to Jeanne de Vorge. There's a
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Speaker 1: lot of genes in these stories. There's so many. Now.
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Speaker 1: They get married when she was eighteen and he was forty,
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Speaker 1: because he thought that was a good time and age
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Speaker 1: to settle down. Ooh funny how times have changed and
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Speaker 1: yet have stayed exactly the same. So they are married
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Speaker 1: up until her death in thirteen twenty seven. He did
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Speaker 1: not wait to get remarried because again, this is thirteen
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Speaker 1: twenty eight, so it's like a year after. So he
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Speaker 1: and jean they had a daughter together, also called Jean.
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Speaker 1: Now remember her case. She's gonna come up later, Jean
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Speaker 1: de Pentivi. So he was probably trying to remarry to
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Speaker 1: get a legitimate heir, because men have again, like I
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Speaker 1: said earlier, a weird thing about lineage, because I don't know,
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Speaker 1: because as we know, heritage comes from the balls. So actually,
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Speaker 1: now before I do need to tell you this about
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Speaker 1: Ghee for a second, because these people, they're so interesting.
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Speaker 1: So he is the great grandson of Henry the third
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Speaker 1: of England and Eleanor of Provence. So and being the
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Speaker 1: second son of the Duke of Brittany, he's given like
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Speaker 1: the viscounty of Limoges and he's the Vico demo. And
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Speaker 1: that's fine until his older brother, John the third of
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Speaker 1: Brittany marries Isabella of Castile, not not that one, by
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Speaker 1: the way, but he gives her the Viscounty of Lemoge
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Speaker 1: as a marriage gift, and GI is like, absolutely not,
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Speaker 1: that is mine. And see he he had inherited the
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Speaker 1: property from his mother until John really didn't have a
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Speaker 1: right to give it away. And so Isabella complains to
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Speaker 1: the Pope, who I'm fairly certain she's related to and
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Speaker 1: so he issues a papal bull that granted her the domain,
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Speaker 1: and so the Duke right, he ends up like compensating
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Speaker 1: his brother with the County of Pintier. So he's got
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Speaker 1: you know, he's now of Dependieri. Like he's like, you're
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Speaker 1: not a count your kid, tada. So when Gey marries
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Speaker 1: the daughter of the Lord of Avageur, he combines his
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Speaker 1: estates with gail Or Saint Berrieu, making him quite the
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Speaker 1: powerful player.
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Speaker 2: So when he marries Jean.
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Speaker 1: De Berville de Montague Dischatrin, it is clear to some
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Speaker 1: that this looks like a bit of a massive play
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Speaker 1: for political power. And it's actually his relatives who complain. Right,
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Speaker 1: his relatives put in an official complaint to the bishops
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Speaker 1: of van and Rinne because they were worried about their heritage.
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Speaker 1: And thanks to this complaint by the House of Chatillon,
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Speaker 1: an investigation was conducted from the tenth of February thirteen thirty.
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Speaker 1: Now they've been married sort of two years at this point,
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Speaker 1: and it's taken them this long to be like, hey,
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Speaker 1: we don't like this. So this investigation like results with
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Speaker 1: the Pope John the twenty second annulling the marriage. She's
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Speaker 1: like mm, mmm, because whatever way, this marriage sort of
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Speaker 1: absorbed all of the all of the areas right because
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Speaker 1: of this, it meant that like certain branches of the
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Speaker 1: family could be cut off from stuff which should be theirs.
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Speaker 1: It's like a whole thing. And so Jeanne and the
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Speaker 1: marriage is annulled. If they don't have any kids together,
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Speaker 1: there's nothing really to worry about. I mean, she's like, oh,
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Speaker 1: the marriage is over, okay bye, because here's the thing
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Speaker 1: as well, right, She's not too fussed because she is
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Speaker 1: ready to marry the love of her life, Olivier de Clisson,
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Speaker 1: a marriage that's going to shape her future. So there
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Speaker 1: is some evidence that Jean and Olivier go way back, right,
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Speaker 1: And you may be thinking, why didn't she marry him
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Speaker 1: instead of Gay in the first place.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's because he.
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Speaker 1: Was already married with his first wife, Blanche a Bovie,
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Speaker 1: who died in thirteen twenty nine, oh, just months before
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Speaker 1: the complaints were lords to the bishops of van and
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Speaker 1: Len regarding Gay on Jean's marriage. Huh convenient. Now they
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Speaker 1: end up, you know, they get a nulled and so gee,
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Speaker 1: actually I'm gonna tell you a bit more about him.
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Speaker 1: So he actually gets a special dispinse from the pope
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Speaker 1: to get married during Lent. Here's also sidebar fun fact.
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Speaker 1: You're not supposed to get married during Lent because you're
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Speaker 1: not supposed to have sex and you have to consummate
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Speaker 1: a marriage like that's how Catholicism works, right, because you're
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Speaker 1: supposed to abstain throughout the month of Lent. So if
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Speaker 1: you're going to get married during Lent, you technically should have,
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Speaker 1: you know, permission from the pope to shag. So that's
25:32
Speaker 1: what that's about. And so he actually ends up dying
25:35
Speaker 1: not long after that not murder, it's not a murder.
25:40
Speaker 1: He's just an old dude and there's a lot of
25:43
Speaker 1: old timey diseases anyway. So Olivier Oliviason, he was a
25:51
Speaker 1: signior of peter Marche, which is an area that bordered
25:55
Speaker 1: sort of like the Frankish region, So he had some
26:00
Speaker 1: scent connections, like at one point he had squired on
26:04
Speaker 1: an expedition with the French king's cousin Filippe d Vallois
26:08
Speaker 1: in his younger days, which is you know, kind of
26:12
Speaker 1: a big deal. And so with his first wife he
26:16
Speaker 1: had a son who would inherit his maternal grandfather's title
26:21
Speaker 1: of signor demiller lefree, which he would you know, get
26:27
Speaker 1: but then unfortunately die young young ish he was an adult,
26:32
Speaker 1: but he would die young comparatively speaking. Now, after the
26:39
Speaker 1: death of his first wife, Olivier waited a year and
26:46
Speaker 1: then got married Jeune de Belvi and together they were
26:51
Speaker 1: a powerful couple. Their combined assets of like areas like
26:57
Speaker 1: a Plateau, bellev Brittle, marsh Blen, et cetera, et cetera.
27:04
Speaker 1: It gave them considerable signorial power. I was trying to
27:11
Speaker 1: say signiorial, but it just sounds weird no matter which
27:14
Speaker 1: way I say it. So they basically have all of
27:17
Speaker 1: this lordie power right as in of Phantombic Catholicism, so
27:21
Speaker 1: much like they own an area, not they have deity
27:27
Speaker 1: powers over the area. So yeah, they they have considerable power.
27:34
Speaker 1: What is Germany, I'm gonna say politically tumultuous time, but
27:40
Speaker 1: we will get back to that. So the couple have
27:44
Speaker 1: what is very rare in this era and what some
27:46
Speaker 1: might say many eras a happy marriage. So like sidebar,
27:52
Speaker 1: there was this period of time where a lot of
27:55
Speaker 1: comedians their main stick was hating their spouse, and it
27:59
Speaker 1: was very much an accepted form of comedy and one
28:04
Speaker 1: that's just lazy into It's such a weird thing to me,
28:09
Speaker 1: Like I don't understand, like choosing to be with someone
28:16
Speaker 1: who you don't like or who doesn't like you, Like
28:21
Speaker 1: why don't you want to spend time in the company
28:25
Speaker 1: of someone who enjoys your company and whose company you enjoy,
28:30
Speaker 1: Like you should want to spend time with people like
28:33
Speaker 1: you should. I say that as someone who struggles to
28:35
Speaker 1: spend time with people, And like I'm find when I'm
28:38
Speaker 1: doing it right, I'm fine when I'm in it, but
28:39
Speaker 1: like getting to it and getting around it, I'm so dodgy.
28:43
Speaker 1: But like you should enjoy, like having things to talk
28:47
Speaker 1: about you should enjoy, Like there's so many different parts
28:50
Speaker 1: of it. But if you don't even get on, like
28:54
Speaker 1: what is the point, Like it doesn't make any sense
28:57
Speaker 1: to me whatsoever. But yes, these two have a happy marriage.
29:04
Speaker 1: They genuinely love and care for each other. Now it's
29:09
Speaker 1: really interesting because when they're like sorting out the marriage contract,
29:13
Speaker 1: like she is making sure that her children from her
29:18
Speaker 1: previous marriage, Jeffrey and Louise, she is ensuring that their
29:22
Speaker 1: inheritance is secure. She's like their stuff is for them,
29:26
Speaker 1: don't be touching it. But when it comes to these two, well,
29:30
Speaker 1: it doesn't take long for how to start popping out
29:32
Speaker 1: puppies because she gives birth to a son, and then
29:36
Speaker 1: another son, and then another son and then a daughter. Right.
29:43
Speaker 1: So their first son, Maurice, he's born in thirteen thirty three,
29:48
Speaker 1: but he dies within his first year. Their next son, Olivier,
29:55
Speaker 1: he was born in thirteen thirty six, so he's Olivier Sank.
30:03
Speaker 1: And two years later Gian was born, and two years
30:07
Speaker 1: after that, jean their daughter, came into the world. So
30:11
Speaker 1: many Jeanes in the story, so many Janes. Now the
30:15
Speaker 1: decreason they are very happy together, although I would like
30:19
Speaker 1: to state that Jeanne takes no shit. So like obviously before,
30:23
Speaker 1: like I was saying in their marriage contract, like she
30:25
Speaker 1: was ensuring that her children's inheritance was secure. But also
30:32
Speaker 1: but also she took Olivier to court because he promised
30:37
Speaker 1: her certain financial contributions from his estates, like in their
30:42
Speaker 1: marriage contract, and she wanted to make sure she got
30:45
Speaker 1: it because she was like, I haven't got it yet.
30:48
Speaker 1: So they end up going to court and it's actually
30:51
Speaker 1: Philippe kat No as Philip Katt No Phelipe Cis Phelip
30:56
Speaker 1: Cis Philid Kat was a baby who he died quite young.
31:00
Speaker 1: So Phelipe sees he is like the one who kind
31:05
Speaker 1: of goes ah, now make sure you give her stuff
31:08
Speaker 1: approved and he does it like she gets it, and
31:13
Speaker 1: there was like no animosity. It's very amicable. It's almost
31:16
Speaker 1: as if it was like done deliberately and locking it
31:21
Speaker 1: in just in case. Like it feels like that was
31:26
Speaker 1: something done specifically to ensure security. Now remember all of
31:32
Speaker 1: those like political issues I mentioned earlier. Well, you know what,
31:37
Speaker 1: it's probably best that we slip into some context. So
31:44
Speaker 1: the couple were married seven years and this is when
31:48
Speaker 1: Edward the third of England officially claimed the French crown
31:54
Speaker 1: on the grounds of him being the grandson of Philippe
31:58
Speaker 1: Cattle so Philip the This however, was not appreciated by
32:05
Speaker 1: the crowned French king, Philippe Sie, who was the nephew
32:11
Speaker 1: of Philippe Catre. So he's like, I'm the nephew, I'm king.
32:16
Speaker 1: Now basically it's Edward's mother was the daughter of Philippe Catre.
32:25
Speaker 1: So that's where we're at.
32:28
Speaker 2: So Philippe Philippe sis.
32:32
Speaker 1: He was the son of chard Voille, who was kind
32:37
Speaker 1: of a big deal. And this is one of the
32:40
Speaker 1: other people. I mean, I don't talk a lot about
32:42
Speaker 1: men on this podcast, but I think I'm gonna have
32:46
Speaker 1: to like cover these guys at some point because a
32:49
Speaker 1: lot of interesting stuff here. Now I say this nearly
32:56
Speaker 1: every week at this point. But geography as political, right,
33:03
Speaker 1: what we would refer to as France today wasn't France
33:07
Speaker 1: back then. Like I think I covered this bit a
33:10
Speaker 1: bit back in the The Eleanor of Aquity in episode
33:13
Speaker 1: I think, so there was like the Kingdom of France,
33:18
Speaker 1: but there were also these like separate, basically independent regions
33:23
Speaker 1: and they would have like dukes and princes and all
33:26
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, right, So our princes are more
33:30
Speaker 1: like a principality, which is a lot of the you know, Monaco, Germany,
33:34
Speaker 1: all those places in there, and France who had a
33:37
Speaker 1: lot of dukes and counts and viscounts and all this jazz. Right,
33:42
Speaker 1: So as well, I should clarify, like you didn't like
33:49
Speaker 1: owe fealty to the land, like you wouldn't owe fealty
33:52
Speaker 1: to France per se, you would owe fealty to the
33:56
Speaker 1: king of France. Right, So that's why, like there was
34:00
Speaker 1: an area I think in is it not Kelley in Callai,
34:06
Speaker 1: like Callay was known it was owned by sort of
34:08
Speaker 1: the English king, and that's why when Henry the eighth
34:12
Speaker 1: lost it, it was like, oh no, it's such a
34:14
Speaker 1: big insult. And that's because like that was an English territory,
34:19
Speaker 1: so you would be swearing fealty to the English king.
34:22
Speaker 1: Like that's how that worked, even though it's like in France,
34:26
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a whole it's a whole thing.
34:30
Speaker 2: Now.
34:31
Speaker 1: One such region, like I mentioned before, was Britagne, which
34:37
Speaker 1: was of strategic importance whenever it came to wars between
34:42
Speaker 1: England and France. Now Britagne it had a substantial coastline
34:50
Speaker 1: which offered safe harbor for English ships carrying English archers,
34:56
Speaker 1: men at arms and of course night. Yes, And the
35:02
Speaker 1: situation in Brittany was that basically okay, okay. So this
35:07
Speaker 1: brings us to a political issue Number two, which was.
35:13
Speaker 2: Brittany was an.
35:14
Speaker 1: Absolute Jackson Pollock right, the previous Duke of Brittany, Arthur
35:21
Speaker 1: the second. He was married twice. He had three sons
35:26
Speaker 1: from his first marriage. He had John Gee depended. Yes,
35:35
Speaker 1: Jean de Crisan's second husband, whom the marriage was an
35:39
Speaker 1: ouled that guy, right, he's from this family, so yeah.
35:45
Speaker 1: Arthur the second athe Doux, he had three sons. So
35:48
Speaker 1: his first marriage he had John, he had Gee and Peter. Right,
35:53
Speaker 1: so John, Gee and Peter. Now in his second marriage
35:57
Speaker 1: he had another son, all so called John, right, Like,
36:04
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's bad enough right to name your
36:09
Speaker 1: child after yourself, but to name two. He's like, just
36:12
Speaker 1: in case this one doesn't stick. He's an adult now
36:16
Speaker 1: he's there. So yes, you have John, and then you
36:20
Speaker 1: have three daughters, Ertrice, Alice, and Blanche Marie. So John
36:27
Speaker 1: from the first marriage, John the third. He was recognized
36:31
Speaker 1: as Arthur's heir, and when Arthur died, he inherited his
36:35
Speaker 1: father's estates and titles. Now other John, he inherited the
36:41
Speaker 1: title of the Count de Montfaut from his mother, right,
36:48
Speaker 1: so he got it from that side.
36:51
Speaker 2: He got from the other.
36:53
Speaker 1: Now John the third Jehan Troit. He absolutely hated his
36:59
Speaker 1: half subly like, he despised them, and he spent quite
37:04
Speaker 1: a lot of time and energy trying to delegitimize them
37:09
Speaker 1: and to brand them as bastards like this was something
37:15
Speaker 1: he actively put a lot of effort into. Unfortunately, I
37:21
Speaker 1: guess for John that didn't pan out right. He didn't
37:25
Speaker 1: manage to delegitimize them because there was nothing to make
37:30
Speaker 1: them less legitimate. It just wasn't. The dad remarried, Everything
37:37
Speaker 1: was fine, there was nothing to really contest. Now. Remember
37:41
Speaker 1: John is the one who also married Isabella of Castile,
37:46
Speaker 1: and she was I think she was his second wife.
37:50
Speaker 1: She was, yeah, she was yeah, because Joan of Savoy
37:53
Speaker 1: that was his first wife. Isabella of Castille, Queen of
37:56
Speaker 1: Aragon she was his second wife, and then Isabella she
38:01
Speaker 1: was his third wife. Now, out of all of these marriages,
38:05
Speaker 1: John did not produce any heirs. He had no children.
38:11
Speaker 1: So because he didn't have any children, and both of
38:15
Speaker 1: his full brothers were I believe dead at this point,
38:18
Speaker 1: because was it Gui de Pintivier He had died in
38:23
Speaker 1: what thirteen thirty one or thirty two? Like he he
38:28
Speaker 1: was gone for a while, and Pierre Peter, I think
38:34
Speaker 1: he's already gone to yes, he was, yes, So this
38:38
Speaker 1: meant that his heir should have been his younger brother,
38:42
Speaker 1: Jean de Moufont, And he fucking hated the idea, and
38:48
Speaker 1: so he named his niece Jeanne de Pincivier as his heir.
38:56
Speaker 1: Yes Gui de Pintire's daughter from his first marriage, who
39:00
Speaker 1: he'd mentioned earlier.
39:03
Speaker 2: It's all coming around.
39:08
Speaker 1: So she was married to chardu Bois, who was absolutely
39:16
Speaker 1: delighted at the notion of becoming Duke of Brittany. Now
39:25
Speaker 1: it appears that perhaps, quite possibly, maybe John the third
39:31
Speaker 1: may have changed his mind regarding his air upon his death,
39:35
Speaker 1: because when he died in thirteen forty one, Charledubois claimed
39:41
Speaker 1: the ducal throne on behalf of his wife, and well,
39:46
Speaker 1: Jean de Beaufort was not giving up the dukedom without
39:50
Speaker 1: a fight, so he had Edward the third of England
39:54
Speaker 1: in his corner, while Chardubois was supported by Philippe Cease
40:00
Speaker 1: to false like that. That's the basics, but let's slip
40:07
Speaker 1: into a little more context. The Duche of Brittany traditionally
40:14
Speaker 1: followed a semi salaic system of inheritance. So what that
40:19
Speaker 1: means is the title passed down to the eldest mayor
40:23
Speaker 1: heir whenever possible, and only when there were no surviving
40:29
Speaker 1: direct male descendants could a woman inherit The ducche, the duchy,
40:35
Speaker 1: the duchy. If I said like this, it's a duchy.
40:38
Speaker 2: But douche, douche.
40:41
Speaker 1: Decide about douche, doesn't it look at me? So when
40:46
Speaker 1: it comes to this like if that was the case,
40:50
Speaker 1: the women would rule as duchess and the husband governed
40:54
Speaker 1: as duke by right of representation. Jean de Maufort based
41:00
Speaker 1: his claim on the idea that a brother, even a
41:05
Speaker 1: gasp half brother, was a closer and more legitimate air
41:10
Speaker 1: than a nice. He also argued that Britagne should follow
41:15
Speaker 1: the Salak law used in the Kingdom of France, which
41:19
Speaker 1: strictly excluded women from inheriting. His reasoning rested on the
41:25
Speaker 1: fact that Britagne had been a douche pier for the
41:30
Speaker 1: last almost fifty years, meaning it was formally considered part
41:35
Speaker 1: of the French crown and as such French inheritance laws
41:40
Speaker 1: should apply. Now here's the thing. Historically France had upheld
41:48
Speaker 1: Salic law like it had been used to justify Philip
41:52
Speaker 1: Sank's ascension to the throne in thirteen sixteen, and more
41:56
Speaker 1: recently Philippe ceases eyes to power. So this makes Philippe's
42:06
Speaker 1: support of Jean de Pentyret practically ironic right, because Phelipe
42:13
Speaker 1: the sixth he had obtained the French crown on the
42:18
Speaker 1: basis that royal authority could not pass through the female line,
42:23
Speaker 1: an argument that directly contradicted his backing of Jean de
42:28
Speaker 1: Pintire's claimed to Britagne, like it is in complete opposition
42:33
Speaker 1: to what put him on the throne. But because of
42:39
Speaker 1: this whole situation, and now you have the nobility taking
42:44
Speaker 1: sides in the War of the Breton Succession. All three
42:57
Speaker 1: of the decreasng brothers took a side in this war, Olivier,
43:01
Speaker 1: Gautier and Omire, every single one of them. They supported
43:07
Speaker 1: Chardubois and of course Philippe. Initially all three were on
43:14
Speaker 1: the same side, and then Omiri de Clisson he ended
43:21
Speaker 1: up supporting Geen de Monufont. Now, with these nobles like
43:26
Speaker 1: taking sides, you've got King Error the third versus Phillip
43:31
Speaker 1: the six and you.
43:33
Speaker 3: Have char Dubois versus Jean de Maufont, and all of
43:37
Speaker 3: these nobles choosing a side. And this is going to
43:41
Speaker 3: lead to a long war with many bloody battles. And
43:48
Speaker 3: this whole thing about the War of the Breton Succession
43:52
Speaker 3: like it will lead to the one hundred Years War,
43:55
Speaker 3: like this is leading up to that.
44:00
Speaker 1: So Olivier he goes to fight for Philippe and Charles Dubois.
44:06
Speaker 1: He's ordered to defend then against an English attack like
44:12
Speaker 1: so for the record, actually as well, right, the Decreasel castle,
44:17
Speaker 1: it is being used as a headquarters for the Dubois faction,
44:21
Speaker 1: right the whole shebang. It is being set up from there, right,
44:28
Speaker 1: So with this family, they are fighting on the side
44:31
Speaker 1: of Charle Dubois and Philippe. That's what they're doing.
44:35
Speaker 2: And Gautier he.
44:37
Speaker 1: Dies defending breast and Omaree. He's captured defending Jugan now
44:44
Speaker 1: omore like again he's originally team Dubois, but after being captured,
44:50
Speaker 1: he becomes pro de Monfont and Omrie de Clissant. What
44:56
Speaker 1: he does here is he makes a deal with Edward
45:00
Speaker 1: the third or the court of Edward the third, and
45:03
Speaker 1: he returns to Brittany with six thousand archers, right, and
45:11
Speaker 1: he ends up saving the de Montfort who were under
45:14
Speaker 1: siege at Hannibal, which is this it's this castle on
45:22
Speaker 1: the Brittany coast, right, And in late thirteen forty two,
45:27
Speaker 1: Olivier de cresints. He raised about what was it, twelve
45:33
Speaker 1: six hundred men and he headed to Va right because
45:38
Speaker 1: it has been captured by English forces and he's being
45:42
Speaker 1: sent there and he's like, okay, let's go. Because they go,
45:48
Speaker 1: they capture the city, right. But after capturing the city
45:53
Speaker 1: of Va, it was then recaptured the following month, So
45:58
Speaker 1: it was like November thirty forty two is when they
46:01
Speaker 1: get it, and it is recaptured in December thirteen forty two.
46:07
Speaker 1: And when it was captured or recaptured, I should say
46:14
Speaker 1: Olivier de Clisson and Eleve de Leon, they are both
46:19
Speaker 1: captured and taken prisoner. Now Olivier cats de Clisson. He
46:26
Speaker 1: was the only one released in a prisoner exchange with
46:30
Speaker 1: Ralph Stafford, the first Earl of Stafford, a man famous
46:36
Speaker 1: for two things. One being an active participant in the
46:41
Speaker 1: Tunnel plot, which led to Roger Mortimer's arrest and execution
46:46
Speaker 1: in thirteen thirty, therefore allowing Edward the Third to finally
46:51
Speaker 1: rule in his own name, and two going all seven
46:55
Speaker 1: brides for seven brothers and abducting a woman to make
46:59
Speaker 1: her his bride.
47:02
Speaker 2: So that's this guy.
47:03
Speaker 1: He's also like a super duper great friend of Edward
47:06
Speaker 1: the third. So yeah, so Olivier he is exchanged for
47:13
Speaker 1: Ralph Stafford and a ransom, a suspiciously low ransom, according
47:20
Speaker 1: to Philippe, who presumed Olivier was in cahits with Edward
47:25
Speaker 1: Third and John de Montfont, even though he has no
47:30
Speaker 1: evidence that this is such a thing. Right, and so
47:34
Speaker 1: the King of France, being a sleek at boy, right,
47:39
Speaker 1: he and Edward Third, they sign a treaty in thirteen
47:43
Speaker 1: forty three, a moment of respite in the ongoing war.
47:48
Speaker 1: And with this truce, right under the false pretense of
47:53
Speaker 1: the Truce of Malistro, he hosts a tournament. Right, He's like, oh,
48:00
Speaker 1: what a break, what a truth. This is wonderful. And
48:02
Speaker 1: so he invites a whole bunch of Breton lords, this
48:06
Speaker 1: signor a bunch of them, and he invites them to
48:10
Speaker 1: a tournament. So like, I think, I'll all. It was
48:13
Speaker 1: like sixteen Breton signors, including Olivier, who were expecting to
48:20
Speaker 1: you know, feast, drink, be merry and of course joust
48:25
Speaker 1: at this tournament, all on French soil. However, when they arrive,
48:34
Speaker 1: he and the fifteen other Breton lords, they are arrested,
48:40
Speaker 1: hold off to Paris, where he was tried by his
48:43
Speaker 1: peers and then sentenced to death. Now, Jean de Creissant,
48:49
Speaker 1: when she hears about this, she's like trying everything to
48:53
Speaker 1: get him out. Now allegedly, allegedly is she tries to
48:57
Speaker 1: like bribe one of one of the deputies. She's like
49:01
Speaker 1: trying to get him out, but it doesn't work right.
49:05
Speaker 1: She is like she's just discovered that her beloved husband
49:12
Speaker 1: has been arrested and he's being sentenced to death, and
49:17
Speaker 1: so she's like, oh no, we're gonna get him out here,
49:20
Speaker 1: and she is trying in vain to set him free.
49:25
Speaker 1: On the second of August thirteen forty three, under the
49:30
Speaker 1: white flag of peace, Olivier de Cresson was accused of
49:35
Speaker 1: several treasons and then beheaded. His body was drawn to
49:43
Speaker 1: the Gibe of Paris and hanged. Now a gibe or
49:47
Speaker 1: a gibbet, which you might know it as it's kind
49:49
Speaker 1: of like a gallows without the nurse. It's like this
49:53
Speaker 1: big gallows like structure, like an upside down l but
49:58
Speaker 1: made of wood, and you would a body there, either
50:01
Speaker 1: someone dying or dead. As a sort of deterrent for
50:07
Speaker 1: other crimes. Now, you actually see this in one of
50:12
Speaker 1: the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. It's the first movie.
50:14
Speaker 1: Actually it's the opening scene. No, it's not the opening scene.
50:17
Speaker 3: It is the.
50:19
Speaker 1: Second scene in the movie where rowing, where Jack Sparrow
50:23
Speaker 1: comes in and the ship is sinking and he sees
50:26
Speaker 1: the hanging bodies of the pirates and I think it's
50:28
Speaker 1: in like a little cage. So it's that sort of thing.
50:31
Speaker 1: But like that's obviously several hundred years later and fiction.
50:36
Speaker 1: But yeah, so you've got this gallows type thing where
50:42
Speaker 1: the body is hung. Now the head it's taken somewhere else.
50:47
Speaker 1: Olivier de Creissants decapitated head was sent to not to
50:53
Speaker 1: be put on a lance over the soft to git
50:58
Speaker 1: now placing body on a gibi and a gibbet or
51:02
Speaker 1: a head on a spike. As I said earlier, they
51:05
Speaker 1: were used as deterrence for other criminals. But here's the thing.
51:12
Speaker 1: In France at this time, this kind of public display
51:16
Speaker 1: of a nobleman's body was practically unheard of. It was
51:21
Speaker 1: not the done thing, right, This was something you did
51:24
Speaker 1: to lowly criminals, not a member of the nobility. Obviously
51:29
Speaker 1: a couple hundred years later, it's not going to be
51:31
Speaker 1: an issue because they're doing it all the time. But
51:34
Speaker 1: back then this was just no. This was out of propriety.
51:39
Speaker 1: This was not something that was socially acceptable, even for
51:43
Speaker 1: the king really, you know.
51:46
Speaker 2: Now, on top of that, right, there.
51:51
Speaker 1: Was no evidence that Olivier ever committed any of the
51:56
Speaker 1: crimes he was accused of, and unsurprising, other nobles were
52:02
Speaker 1: concerned that the king had just ordered this execution on
52:07
Speaker 1: a man who was both like he was known to
52:10
Speaker 1: be not only innocent, but loyal, like he was loyal
52:17
Speaker 1: to his king through all of this and gotam killed.
52:25
Speaker 1: Now back in Bratagne, Jeanne, when the news reaches her
52:32
Speaker 1: of the execution of again her loyal and innocent husband,
52:38
Speaker 1: the widow takes both of her sons, her surviving sons
52:43
Speaker 1: aged only seven and five, not to see Olivier's severed
52:50
Speaker 1: head upon that lance displayed in disrespect over the Softu gate.
52:58
Speaker 1: And it was here in this moment that Jeanne de Crissant,
53:02
Speaker 1: the forty three year old widow, decided fuck this for
53:06
Speaker 1: a game of soldiers and swore revenge against Philip Desis
53:12
Speaker 1: of France, and of course charlesdu Bois. Now, it's hard
53:19
Speaker 1: to do revenge without fortifying yourself, so fast things. First,
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Speaker 1: she sells everything of value, like everything. Now the king
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Speaker 1: actually tries to get her arrested, which like she manages
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Speaker 1: to evade arrest thanks to Olivier's eldest son, Jean like
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Speaker 1: him and then a bunch of other people, like they
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Speaker 1: managed to get her out of there, and like this
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Speaker 1: is such a power grab, like is her property is
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Speaker 1: like confiscated and she was banished banished, and like it's
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Speaker 1: for she's a cue of like rebellion, disobedience and excesses
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Speaker 1: against the king. Like she hasn't even done anything yet, right,
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Speaker 1: she's accused of Liz imageste. So because she's accused of
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Speaker 1: all this, she just like says no and doesn't show up.
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Speaker 1: And because she doesn't show up, she's basically she's basically
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Speaker 1: deemed guilty in absence, right, And so yeah, she sells
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Speaker 1: everything anything that she has of value, like the degrees
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Speaker 1: law states especially, And then she armed herself now according
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Speaker 1: to legend, with a massive acts, which honestly would be
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Speaker 1: cool as help, but it wasn't. Just that she raised
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Speaker 1: a force of about four hundred strong these were loyal men,
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Speaker 1: and she started her own personal war with the Friends,
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Speaker 1: which now allegedlce. Allegedly, she attacked some castles, including a
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Speaker 1: castle at Toufu and a chateau table, where she annihilated
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Speaker 1: the garrisons, leaving only one or two alive to tell
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Speaker 1: the tale of what happened, right, and also to share
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Speaker 1: her open declaration of support of Jean de Monufaut and
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Speaker 1: Edward the Third. So when it comes to the castle Toufu,
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Speaker 1: so she arrives and like the guy who owns the castle,
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Speaker 1: he recognizes her as Olivia's widow, and he's like, oh no,
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Speaker 1: it's the poor widow. We better let her in, and
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Speaker 1: so he lets her in and she's like, psich, everybody's dead.
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Speaker 1: So after this, Jeane de Creisson, with the help of
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Speaker 1: some extra funding from Edward, she purchases three converted merchant ships.
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Speaker 1: So these were painted black and fitted with crimson sales.
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Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. Red dye wasn't cheap, Like that's
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Speaker 1: an expensive dye. Like this is done if if it's true, right,
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Speaker 1: there are many reports of the red sales existing, like
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Speaker 1: there are there are reports and documents and tales of
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Speaker 1: this and if that's true, this is drama, Like this
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Speaker 1: is a deliberate like not only a fear tactic, but
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Speaker 1: it's like having the power and the finances to dye
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Speaker 1: your sales red like that is money. And it's just
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Speaker 1: this terrifying, terrifying like style of ship and that's amazing,
56:57
Speaker 1: Like this was a state and with her black fleet,
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Speaker 1: Jeane de Cressants began to wak absolute havoc on the French.
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Speaker 2: Also in addition, furthermore, like.
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Speaker 1: It said that she named the flagship so her own ship,
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Speaker 1: she named my revenge Marovoge, like like she's making a
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Speaker 1: statement like that, like she's like, I'm making it clear
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Speaker 1: what my purpose is. I don't want anyone to be confused,
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Speaker 1: Like was I not clear? I'm sorry? Was I not
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Speaker 1: clear that this is about vengeance? I mean, what did
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Speaker 1: I name my shipm So this was not a pirate
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Speaker 1: looking for bootie and looked although she would take it
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Speaker 1: obviously because she needs to continue funding the English effort.
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Speaker 1: So Jeanne attacked friendships, not really to plunder, but to massacre.
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Speaker 1: This was vengeance. French nobles would not receive mercy no
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Speaker 1: matter how much they begged or plated or how large
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Speaker 1: or ransom they offered. They were sitting ducks. Unfortunately, much
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Speaker 1: of the French fleet had been lost to the Battle
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Speaker 1: of Slui, like what was it three years earlier, and
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Speaker 1: it was not getting restocked, shall we say, because war
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Speaker 1: is expensive and Philip was really feeling the pinch now,
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Speaker 1: like he wasn't able to restock, like rebuild the ships
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Speaker 1: or even have the men for these ships. And the
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Speaker 1: way that the Black Fleet would work is it would
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Speaker 1: sort of swarm ships coming out of the fog, like
58:49
Speaker 1: guerrilla warfare, but on the sea, right, and all that
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Speaker 1: is going on. But back in Bagne, like by third
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Speaker 1: teen forty five, Charle Dubois he seems to be winning, right,
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Speaker 1: everyone thinks he's got the upper hand because Jean de
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Speaker 1: Maufaut dies, and like, who's everyone going to put their
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Speaker 1: support behind Geen de Maufaul the son?
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Speaker 2: Mmm?
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Speaker 1: Maybe that being said, chall wasn't really liked by the
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Speaker 1: Brittles after you know, he would like capture a town
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Speaker 1: like Greenpey. When he went there, he yeah, kind of
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Speaker 1: sort of massacred all of the civilians, which honestly not
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Speaker 1: all of them, but like most of them, which doesn't
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Speaker 1: really make you seem like a good leader or a
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Speaker 1: just leader, because you've just murdered a bunch of people
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Speaker 1: who were just living their lives.
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Speaker 2: It's not really a good look.
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Speaker 1: And so Jeanne, right, all this is going on, and
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Speaker 1: when she's not pirating, she's helping transport provisions across the
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Speaker 1: channel for like the Crese campaign for example, so like
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Speaker 1: thirteen forty six, thirty forty seven, she's dropping this stuff
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Speaker 1: off and thirteen forty seven Charledonois he's captured when the
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Speaker 1: French were defeated at Cresse by English forces. So she
1:00:23
Speaker 1: continued to attack and like was it the Bay of Biscay,
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Speaker 1: the English Channel, She's even in like the Charente Estuary,
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Speaker 1: the Grande Estuary, the season around, like er Rey Oliron
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Speaker 1: and you like although there and in this period of
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Speaker 1: time there's like thirty six thirty sorry, forty six forty
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Speaker 1: seven Jeane de Crisson was finally out maneuvered by the
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Speaker 1: French and they sank her flagship. Now Jeanne and her
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Speaker 1: two sons, Olivier and grim they are drift for five
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Speaker 1: days and eight year old gian He dies from exposure
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Speaker 1: before they're rescued Zine and Olivier. They are rescued and
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Speaker 1: taken to Morlai in Brittany by MOFO supporters, and it's
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Speaker 1: here that she decides that this life it's not safe
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Speaker 1: for her son, and she decides it's best for her
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Speaker 1: to send her surviving son to England to be raised
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Speaker 1: in a household of King Edward, and with her son safe,
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Speaker 1: she just returns to piracy, although some have suggested it
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Speaker 1: could be privateering because you know she's doing it for
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Speaker 1: the English ground. I mean, it's mainly for herself, but
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Speaker 1: they are also helping because they just want her to
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Speaker 1: function up. So she continues to be an absolute skirl
1:02:00
Speaker 1: a further French for another few years. Right, she is
1:02:04
Speaker 1: just a thorn in their sides. And then one day,
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Speaker 1: after thirteen years of piracy, just as quickly as she started,
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Speaker 1: she stopped. Like maybe she had her fill of vengeance,
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Speaker 1: Maybe she was cleansed in the blood of her enemies.
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's because she knew her son was safe in
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Speaker 1: England and a good friend of Jean Catlus. Jean de Moufu,
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Speaker 1: also known as Jean the Conqueror, Duke of Brittany, Count
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Speaker 1: of Monfaux and Earl of Richmond and eventually Olivier. He
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Speaker 1: would go on to become the Constable of France like
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Speaker 1: he does well now in her fifties. I mean, maybe
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Speaker 1: it's her back is probably done and that's why she
1:02:57
Speaker 1: can't really be sleeping on those wee ships anymore. But
1:03:01
Speaker 1: she moved in with her fourth husband, a military deputy
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Speaker 1: for Edward the third, William Bentley, and they settled down
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Speaker 1: in henbur Right, the castle that, like her husband's brother,
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Speaker 1: her brother in law, had actually gone to save before.
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Speaker 1: So Henber and Boutignier was a castle by the sea,
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Speaker 1: and that's where they lived out the rest of their days.
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Speaker 1: Walter and Jean. They died within weeks of each other
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Speaker 1: in December thirteen fifty nine of what homs to say,
1:03:41
Speaker 1: like could have been a flu, could have been the plague,
1:03:45
Speaker 1: like could have been anything these days. But after her death,
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Speaker 1: her legend grew La Tigres Pritagne, the Lioness of Brittany,
1:04:03
Speaker 1: because there is nothing more dangerous than a woman scorned,
1:04:11
Speaker 1: And so ends our story of the Lioness of Brittany.
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Speaker 1: Another pirate for piracy month. I'm losing my voice, but
1:04:25
Speaker 1: that is that there's going to be more piracy talk.
1:04:28
Speaker 1: Over the next tew weeks I've forgot how many weeks
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Speaker 1: through are. There will be a few Christmasy things happening
1:04:35
Speaker 1: as well, just because it's the season. I'm going to
1:04:38
Speaker 1: try not to lose my voice over the next few days.
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Speaker 1: But hymn's to say, and huh, I do hope everyone
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Speaker 1: has had those santalists ready or Hanakah lists or Kwanza.
1:04:55
Speaker 1: That's all I know. I don't know any other holidays
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Speaker 1: that are at this time of year. If there are any,
1:05:00
Speaker 1: let me know, because I don't know what they are for. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: follow me on the socials. I'll be doing my thing.
1:05:07
Speaker 1: I'll be being annoying if there's a pirate like. This
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Speaker 1: is not going to be the only pirate month I
1:05:12
Speaker 1: do because there's so much and there's so many things
1:05:17
Speaker 1: I want to talk about and get into and I'll
1:05:21
Speaker 1: have some more time to do it in the future.
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Speaker 1: So it's really really exciting. And there's the news and stuff.
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Speaker 1: Oh and if you're in Belfast, get tickets to my
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Speaker 1: show because I'm gonna be there February first, Papa, And
1:05:32
Speaker 1: with that I shall say good night to you all. No,
1:05:36
Speaker 1: I won't because I haven't done recommendations. Recommendation time for
1:05:43
Speaker 1: watching Cutthroat Island. See how there was no pausing with
1:05:47
Speaker 1: that whatsoever. I'm like women Pirate. You know what, people
1:05:50
Speaker 1: talk shit about that movie. I love a swashbuckler, right,
1:05:54
Speaker 1: I love the ridiculousness all of it. Like go to Town. Okay,
1:05:58
Speaker 1: that is our watch. For listening, you know what, script
1:06:03
Speaker 1: listen to CG five, right, some of his stuff's actually
1:06:06
Speaker 1: really catchy. And for reading, I'm gonna go completely left
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Speaker 1: field here because it's nothing to do with pirates, but
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the Murder of Roger Ackroyd.
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Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite books. It's not my most
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Speaker 1: favorite book, but it's it's one of them, and I
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Speaker 1: was reminded of it this week specifically, So.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, go read that.
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Speaker 1: And with that, I will say good night, adios au
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Speaker 1: revoir of Weaze my Friends, Oh bye bye,