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92: Sister Wives - Throwing In The Towel (S18E7) · Reality TV Cringe

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love to have you. All right, let's get into Sister Wives Season eighteen,
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episode seven entitled Throwing in the Towel and Thank God, Thank Jesus on
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colob in his Mormon celestial universe that Mary Brown looks like she's gonna be throwing
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in the towel. Please finally, come on now, it's like the Judge
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Judy mean, that's like the TikTok Finally. Oh my god, we've been
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waiting eighteen freaking seasons three to do this. Mary. You should have way
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back when. Well, the thing is is that her identity, her total
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identity, is wrapped up in this polygamist family. Unfortunate when you think about
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it. She was indoctrinated from a very young age. She was nineteen years
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old when she married Cody Brown. She thought she wanted to be a polygamist,
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and then he started on boarding new wives and she found herself getting jealous,
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but like she was still trying to do what she thought she had to
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do. She was the one who brought in Robin. Ye. But in
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that first season when she brings in Robin, she also wanted to fucking leave
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Gody. I know she's never been happy, and she's always been dutiful,
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except for the catfishing part. Yeah, it's because he wasn't lick in her
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box. Well, yeah, he's been neglecting her. By then, in
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Vegas. He wasn't taking care of the relationship. He didn't want anything to
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do with her, And so, yeah, she fell victim to the catfish.
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But I have a lot of compassion for Mary me too, and so
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in these scenes, in these conversations, I really feel for her, and
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I also think that she's in the era of starting to drop some truth bombs,
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of worthying up, of worthying up and talking on the couch and dropping
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some peppering sprinkling and little nuggets of information like Robin never called me during the
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pandemic, bitch, that was bit years. I was alone in this very
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sterile, very clean Flagstaff home McMansion. Nobody visited me. Robin, who's
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supposed to be feeling steady around me, my best friend, never texted,
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never called, like, oh okay, thank you. I thought so.
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Yeah, we thought so, we knew it, but now we know so
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yeah. So what are some of your major takeaways from this episode, just
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off the top of your head. Well, initially, when I watched this
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episode, you know, for the first time, I watched this three times
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today. Initially, I was trying to see if maybe there was some truth
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to what Robin was spouting, Like maybe she was actually confused. Maybe she
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is a dumb bitch and she has come believed Cody's lies this whole entire time.
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But then, you know, as I keep going on and these these
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watchings, I'm just like, Okay, Robin's a narc, Cody's a narc.
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Mary is sad and pathetic, and I just want the best for her,
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Like I mean that, Like it's pathetic to watch her pine over not
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only a Cody, but Robin's friendship. When Robin hates her, Robin does
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not like her. It's just so obvious. And then Janelle kind of coming
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out of her shell a little bit, kind of questioning her faith, questioning
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her marriage a little bit, not necessarily her faith, but like you know,
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questioning the tenet of her faith of like do I need to stay married
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to this douche nozzle this entire time? Or can I just bounce? Right?
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Can I pick something new for myself? Is it a new season that
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I'm entering into? Can I do that? Yeah? So those are my
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Matre takeaways. What about Yeah, Well, I really love that we're seeing
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the partnership of Janelle and Christine. Yeah, I really love they're committed to
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being sister wives together. I think it makes all the difference in the world
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when you are leaving someone or divorcing, which I've done a million times,
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if you know you have a support system, or if you've got someone there
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who's going to help you get settled, or who's just not going to judge
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you from making the decisions that you're making. So I think that's really,
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really beautiful. I also thought that Robin in the conversation with Mary, came
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off so cold, so stiff, so awkward, like socially awkward, like
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she didn't know how to act like a human being friend in that conversation,
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like she was trying to approximate what a friend might do, but she has
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no idea. And that's either because she genuinely doesn't give a fuck about Mary,
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or she's a robot, or she's just trying to figure out how to
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lie in the moment because she doesn't have a script for this conversation that she
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has with Mary. Well, that's what I wanted to ask you. Do
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you think that they actually talked about this conversation before they filmed it, because
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it seems to me that the Browns have always kind of orchestrated and produced their
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different scenes and segments. So do you think that Robin walked into this conversation
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with Mary knowing what it was going to be about. I don't know.
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It didn't seem like that to me when I've watched it, Like, but
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it seemed weird, Like it seems like Robin came in there with things that
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she was going to say already, or like answers to some of the questions.
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But Robin, when she sits down with Mary, already knows that it's
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going to be bad news, right because she says the way that Mary is
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acting, let's talk about that for a moment. Like the way that Mary
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is acting, she was nervous, she was breathing like rapidly, heavily.
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But I felt personally like that was a fear response totally, like she was
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almost afraid of the conversation or afraid of Robin. And my first feeling about
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that was, Oh, how the mighty have fallen? Because Mary was the
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first wife, Mary was the legal wife, Mary have the position and the
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power historically in the home up until I didn't know twenty fifteen or whatever it
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was, when she divorced Cody for Robin. How that must feel to feel
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disempowered, sitting next to the fourth wife who stole your man, wrecked your
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whole family structure, and now you've got to tell her that you're going to
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do something that she's not going to like. And I think Mary inherently questions
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whether Robin actually likes her, Like, does Robin really like me though she
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doesn't she doesn't, does Robin actually love me and really want me to be
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here? I think Mary has been asking herself these questions because, of course,
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and again, Robin didn't call her during the lockdown, right, Cody
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wasn't going to call her, Robin didn't visit. How easy would that have
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been to just drop by, drop some food by, right, send a
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text once a week or whatever. So Mary's coming into the consciousness that this
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has all been a bunch of bullshit. But she's also a little bit afraid
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of Robin, because Robin has the power, Robin has the access to Quody,
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Robin has the access to her own children, which I think Mary now
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has a relationship with. And so she feels that she has a lot to
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lose. And I'm like, let it go, let it go, let
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it drop away from baby. Not that much to lose, to be honest.
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I'm just like you, are afraid of losing a friendship with such a
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shitty person who like literally does not care about you, doesn't reach out,
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doesn't talk to you, pretends like you're her best friend, says that she
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feels steady and safe with you, but doesn't care about your happiness and doesn't
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advocate for you to leave, like she wants you to stay because of her
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own selfish reasons and because she feels safe with you, or I guess feel
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safe with her money. But she feels very safe with all of your money.
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But she doesn't advocate for Mary to just find something better. But I
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don't know. We'll get to it later in the bit. You came over
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to my house and you were like upset and you were going to make a
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new choice for your life. If you were going to leave somebody because the
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relationship wasn't working out for you, if you were scared about life, I
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would give you a hug. I'd be like, bitch, let's get some
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wine, let's get some food, let's get a taco, let's sit down
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and talk about it. I am here for you, like there would be
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an innate warmth between us because we're actual friends, and I care about you.
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You see none of that with Robin. You don't see it with Mary
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either, although I feel like if Robin had given her a little bit of
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warmth that Mary would have kind of warmed up to her as well. I
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think Mary probably wishes that Robin would, but Robin gives her absolutely nothing,
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just stone faced girl. I just don't get like what Mary is holding on
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too with Robin, because it doesn't seem to me like they've had a really
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good, genuine relationship this entire time. Like I know in the earlier seasons,
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Mary says that she's never had a relationship with another sister wife like she's
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had with Robin. Like she always throws that in the other wives's face,
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and I don't see it. I don't get it, Like what does Robin
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bring to the table for Mary? Or what did Robin bring to the table.
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She wanted to be her Sarah get but that was always just Robin sidling
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up to the bitch in power. She wanted to align herself with the woman
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who had the most power so that she could be safe in the family to
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grift and to bring her bills and ask where do I put these? Do
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I put them on the counter. I never have to get a job.
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I am safe if I'm aligned with Mary. And Mary probably had the expectation
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when the roles reversed and Robin became the legal wife, that she'd be safe
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with her. But what did Robin do cast her aside? Just like COVID
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cast her aside. Oh. It is such a sad and terrible thing,
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totally, And I feel for Mary. I feel for Janelle and Christine as
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well, because I come out of like a deeply indoctrinated religious experience like I
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was in Deep, Honey, I was in super deep, and when you
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leave the structure of that, it is incredibly frightening, like you're leaving everything
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you know, right, And I left when I was in my mid twenties,
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mid twenties, So imagine Mary being in her fifties. She's been living
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this her whole life. She's been believing it, she's been trying to be
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faithful, she's been putting up with a dead bedroom and a dead marriage all
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for her faith and hoping Cody would come back around. I can't even imagine
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how it would be to be in my fifties and having to walk away from
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my whole identity, and this is why I want Mary to live her best
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life. I want Mary to get herself out there. I find her a
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man or a woman saying with Janelle, like, let this go and be
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happy, which Robin doesn't want you to do, because she wants to dangle
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that rope and dangle that carrot and keep you hanging on baby. Well,
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but Robin cried later in the episode and said, I'm just tour it and
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I just feel like I want to tell Mary she should be happy and go
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off and live her life, but I also want her to be here with
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me. Yeah, she wants that for her. I kind of believed her
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there really. Yeah. I feel like she's definitely a goblin and she's definitely
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got her ulterior motives. She's not a good person generally speaking. But I
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think she can feel that Mary needs permission to go and be happy and to
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have a different life. I think she can feel that and she wants to
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give it, but she doesn't. In the moment when they're sitting there,
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she doesn't do it. She reels, She tries to reel her back in
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when Mary is saying point blank, come on, now, this man don't
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want me. This man's pretending to lament his whole family, but he's not
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doing any of the work. I don't believe any of it. He has
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nothing for me. And in that moment, if Robin was a friend,
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she'd be like, I see that, I understand that, and what can
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I do to help you to be happy to get what you need? And
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instead Robin just says no. But he says he talks about you all the
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time, and he says he envisions us all on Coyote Pass and he wants
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you there, right And that's why that's the cruelty. So because even though
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she might have the inclination to toss Mary a bone and to help her out,
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she is going to defer to her prime directive, which is money and
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security, and Mary can give some of that, and also the ally ship
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to not appear to be alone or to appear to have failed. Because I
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think honor and embarrassment and shame plays a lot on the psyche of Cody and
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Robin, and for all of his wives to leave is deeply embarrassing for him,
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and it has spiritual implications. I think it affects the kind of planet
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he gets. Honestly, I don't think you get a planet unless you have
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three wives ethel out there or any Mormon or LDS or FLDS that knows about
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this. But I think it hinges on the number of wives that you have.
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And I also think it is a disgrace if your wives leave you or
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if you get divorced, And so I think they're shame involved in it.
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And I think Robin is embarrassed that this whole thing is falling apart and she's
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trying, she's fucking tap dancing as fast as she can break dancing to deflect
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any responsibility away from herself. Well, I mean, it's totally embarrassing and
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it is totally disappointing, and they should feel shame for how they've acted and
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how this has all turned out. Because this is a spectacle. This is
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why this season and last season have the most views and Sister Wives history,
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and that's why everybody's watching this destruction. It's glorious to watch, it's fabulous,
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but but it's got to suck to feel for sure. But like,
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do you think that Cody actually feels that religious shame, Like if he has
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touted that he's not really a polygamist anymore and that he's questioning his face,
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Well, you can still be a Mormon and not a polygamist. But when
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they cut in Christine saying I am not responsible for Cody losing his faith,
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Yeah, it seems like a non sequitor to me because at no point were
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they talking about faith. And so I'm wondering if Cody has been saying that
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he doesn't know if he believes the same thing because of Christine, because of
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Christine and we just haven't seen it, and she was addressing that, but
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it wasn't edited in. Yeah, I thought that was weird that they put
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that in there. I'm like, this has no context to what has been
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talking about. But whatever. But if we believe the rumors, for example,
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about Leon and how Cody and Robin have estranged themselves from Leon because they
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fundamentally disagree with Leon's transition and they are trying to align themselves back with the
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AUP, then that would indicate obviously that they're still religiously motivated. But like,
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nothing about the way Cody's behaving is spiritual to me, No, because
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the essence of any spirituality or religion is love and compassion and forgiveness and kindness.
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Like, yeah, there's none of that here, not at all,
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none of it. It's all delusion de Lulu, narcissist and also cruel,
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Yeah, and also mean and self serving. That's who these people are.
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Okay, so let's get into it. We've talked about a bunch of it,
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but let's just kind of cover some of the scenes. So we start
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with I think Christine meeting up with Janelle at the Slaprava production studio. I
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guess TLC is renting this ship out for the whole season. Is every conversation
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going to be at Salsa fucking Brava? I don't know why? Are they
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too famous now to go to fat Olives? I think actually Salsa Brava is
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owned by the same restaurateur who owns fat Olives. I was already even read
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it. Yes, I don't even know what's going on. Wow. But
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they meet up there and they kind of get right into Janelle's situations. Nell
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tells Christine like, yeah, I'm done. Yeah, I mean we're separated.
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I don't want to use the word divorce because, like, I don't
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know how I feel about that spiritually. I don't know about the implications for
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me, whether I get to go to a planet or not. Because I
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think she's actually worried and Mary is too, that they're going to be disenfranchised
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in the world of spirit upon their death, which is really terrible asteroid and
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yeah space yeah, and purgatory slash hell with no man to save you in
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the patriarchal religion, right Jesus. So she gets right into it, and
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Christine is trying not to smile. Oh, she is those eager for this
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conversation too. She's like excited, God been waiting for you, Janelle to
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just leave. Yeah. I think is this when Janelle mentions that she reached
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out to Nancy, their former therapist. Yeah, she's been talking to Nancy.
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Oh to be a fly on that wall or zoom call bit to hear
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that. I'm just wondering what Nancy really thinks about all of these dysfunctional Browns.
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She's been in numerous therapy sessions. She went with Christine and Cody down
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to Galveston to try to save their marriage, and all they could do is
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talk about Robin, right, and so she's she's been there and she's seen
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behind the curtains. I'm wondering, like what she's telling Janelle, Because Janelle's
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walking away from that conversation with Clarity, right. But I've been reading on
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the reddits that people are mad that Janelle's going to see Nancy because I guess
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a lot of people think Nancy was a bad therapist and like didn't give good
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advice and wasn't really good to any of the wives during their family counseling sessions
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or anything like that. So I don't know, but I haven't seen anything.
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I haven't really seen that either. I think they picked up with the
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series around Galveston, but I didn't stay with it, so I don't know.
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But like, there's only so much you can do with a narcissist,
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and if you've got two narcissists I e. Robin and Cody, yeah,
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like you can't therapize those people. Is that a word? You cannot administer
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therapeutics on folks like that because they will not receive it right, and they
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are not going to change most likely. And so I'm just wondering what Nancy
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had to say to Janelle. I'm hoping she's like, I've been waiting for
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this carpet leave this moment. I haven't waiting to hear from one of you
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for so long. I fully support what you're doing. I think it is
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the right thing for you to do. Whatever Nancy said, Janelle walked away,
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and she was clear, I'm done. I don't want it anymore.
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I mean, I'm glad for that queen. Shit right there, that's right.
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Then we bop on over to Mary's big fucking house. I'm sorry.
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I would be scared to live alone in a house that big. Oh right,
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too much fucking space. I mean it's so open. Yeah, you'd
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hear things. Oh my god, is it haunted? And she's all alone
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and nobody's visiting her during COVID. So I'm sad about it. But she
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has her little doggie. Yeah, I guess or she did all. I
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think the doggie has some pass. She's so lonely. I'm sad about it.
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But here comes Robin rolling up in Cody's truck. And do you know
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what the interesting thing about that is? What last season when Janelle went to
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get her fifth will, she needed to get a truck, and she wanted
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to drive Cody's truck. But he said to Janelle, no, you cannot
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drive my truck because I don't think you can handle it. A little lady,
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Sorry, little I don't think you can have this big rig over here.
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Okay, it's only for big dick guys. And so he said no.
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And then in this scene we have Robin rolling up in one of his
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trucks. I don't think it's the same truck, but in another truck.
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I'm just like, oh my god, the favorite Tessa. It's everywhere and
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every facet of this fucking life. So Robin gets in and they promptly begin
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to talk about Mary's plans. And here again Mary's super fucking nervous, frightened
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almost because she's gonna have to kiss the ring of the One True Queen.
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It's cringe to see she's going to have to disappoint the one True Queen,
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and she's worried about her reaction, and so she kind of launches right into
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it. Yeah, and she just straight up says, I've been scared to
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tell you. And Robin's like, I knew that this was coming, a
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new bad news was coming. Whatever. But Mary just gets into it and
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says, I'm moving to Parawan. I'm moving my clothing business, I'm moving
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all my shit up there. I'm downside down here, but I'm still gonna
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be here. I'm not leaving the family. I just want to make that
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clear. I'm not leaving. I'm not abandoning you, Robin. I'm gonna
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be here, just not as often. In this episode, I started to
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come around to your way of thinking. Yeah, your way of thinking,
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which is actually this is the first step for the complete moving away from Cody
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and Robin. I'm telling you that's why she's so nervous because if it really
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was okay, I'm going to spend not fifty percent, but seventy five percent
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of my time there, but it's going to be the same arrangement, essentially,
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it wouldn't have been that big of a deal. Right. But because
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Mary knows what she's really doing is leaving the family, she's worried about what
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Robin is going to think and feel about that. And Robin catches on right
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away. Robin totally walking into the situation, must be able to perceive how
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nervous and even afraid Mary is, and instead of comforting her like a friend
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would, instead of saying, hey, girl, where's the wine. Although
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they're Mormon, they don't drink. Oh, although I think Mary drinks,
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by the way, you think so drinking a lot like those box wine things.
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The yes, I think the Lula row lives she does on Instagram and
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on Stacebook. A lot of people say she's fucking lit drinking. Yes,
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so, But if I were Robbin and if I saw how anxious she was,
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I'd be like, what can I do? Bitch? What's going on?
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We talked to me? How can I help? But Robin, with
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her stony ass face and her harsh brows, sits down on that couch and
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says to the camera with her mouth so crazy, dude, and she frowned
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so hard. I don't know how you do. That's weird. On the
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couch, she says, I can tell Mary doesn't have anything good to tell
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me, And in one statement, she makes it all about herself. Of
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course, It's not like, what's going on? How can I help you?
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Look, it's my friend, it's been a while since we've talked,
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right. Instead, it's like, oh, how does this affect and impact
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me? Yeah? Of course, Because everything Robin does, everything that's said
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about Robin, every interact with Robin, she takes everything personally. Everything is
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all about her and how other people make her feel like. It's never how
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she comes off. It's always the damsel in distress routine. Yeah, it's
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enraging. Yeah, it's actually infuriating to watch, you know. And Mary's
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proceeding to talk about her plans and why she's doing it, and all Robin
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really seems to worry about whether this is temporary or whether it's permanent, right,
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And we've got Mary kind of talking about how she doesn't really want to
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have to do this because she feels like moving away, moving her business away,
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spending more time away is kind of taking the easy way out. And
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then she says, which is what Cody has done in specific, this is
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what Cody has done in our relationship, and in Christine's relationship, and in
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Janelle's relationship. He has taken the easy way out. And now look at
24:56
all these marriages. And I wanted to ask you how you think Mary thinks
25:02
Cody took the easy way out. Mmm, probably by just taking a back
25:06
seat and like not making any effort with any of the OG wives and their
25:11
relationships. Like Cody says he makes effort, it's not effort. It's the
25:15
one time he makes a grand gesture for each of the wives, Like for
25:18
Christine in Las Vegas, it was spending a month at her house and then
25:22
that was it. For one month in Vegas. That's all Christine got,
25:26
just so Robin could keep a journal and then use that to prove that Cody
25:30
spent time with Christine more than with her. Yeah, exactly. And for
25:33
Mary, it was probably like the trips that he would take with her to
25:37
like the big grand gestures once in a blue moon, to show them,
25:41
Yeah, no, I do love you. You remember that one time seven
25:44
years ago that we took you to Mexico. It's proof that we have a
25:48
good, healthy relationship. Wanted to do IVF with you, yea, And
25:52
Robin would say, I would be your surrogate. That means I love you.
25:55
It was all manipulation to get Mary where they wanted her to be.
25:59
But Mary is set and she's been waiting and she's been helping, waiting and
26:03
hoping and dreaming, waiting for Cody to come around and to see the value
26:10
that she brings to the relationship, to see the value that she brings to
26:12
the family. But he hasn't done it, and he never will, and
26:17
she's coming to the realization of this. And then we hear Robin saying,
26:21
you know, I could tell that Mary is really upset because it would take
26:23
a lot for her to make a decision to leave because Mary values her commitments.
26:30
Yeah, okay, okay, which was just another dig. Another Robin
26:36
even said that Mary's been so loyal too, like she uses that verbiage just
26:41
to jab at the other wives because they're disloyal and they don't respect Cody and
26:45
his authority. Yeah. I was just like, okay, Robin, every
26:48
single moment you get, you are either directly or passively calling out these other
26:55
women. Yep, back, it's all sabrava. We have the conversation with
26:59
Jew and here again she's talking about her faith and on the couch. I
27:02
thought it was really interesting because she said, you know, it's just not
27:06
really accepted that you just up and leave your marriage. Like I can't point
27:11
to abuse, I can't point to outright neglect, and so I just kind
27:15
of want to move in a different direction and live my own life. And
27:18
I'm like Janelle, Janelle, Janelle, Honey, I can point to neglect,
27:23
what about when Cody didn't call Gabe on his birthday? I can point
27:27
to neglect, what about when Cody didn't show up for eight to nine months
27:30
during COVID to your house or to Christine's house. What about abuse just three
27:34
episodes ago, when he's screaming at you on the couch and pointing into the
27:37
fucking camera and swearing at you, that's abusive. Oh yeah, what are
27:41
you talking about? There was no abuse? Well, she says outright abuse
27:45
right, She's very careful with the burbage. So I'm like, do you
27:48
mean there's some implied abuse? There's some like around the edges neglect. I
27:56
just like she's saying it a little bit without she's saying the quiet part out
28:00
loud or not saying the question. I don't she's not saying what I wanted
28:03
to say. How about that, Beatrice? I wanted to say more?
28:06
And I also wanted to wake the fuck up. I know, I get
28:07
it that you don't give a shit. I get it that you're independent,
28:11
that you prefer that to not be around. But this whole time, your
28:14
kids have been needing their dad. Also, this whole time, your kids
28:17
have been watching the example of your marriage to their dad, and this is
28:19
setting them up for a lifetime of problems and hitching their wagon to problematic relationships
28:26
and people. And you have everything to do with that, Janelle. You
28:29
can't shirk responsibility and say, well, there wasn't outright neglect, but there's
28:33
just like such a common thing like with people in narcissistic relationship is that it's
28:38
not physical abuse or it's not you know, visible abuse, So they don't
28:44
think that their mistreatment that they're feeling and all of this bullshit that they're experiencing
28:49
is bad enough to leave. And that's where I was getting, like I
28:53
was kind of feeling with Janelle, like it just seems like that's how she's
28:57
always been this whole entire time. She's neglected, hardcore. She has been
29:02
financially abused. We all know this, We've all seen this. Her kids
29:06
have been begging her for years to leave Cody. So it's not like people
29:10
have not been telling her to her face. She just doesn't think it's bad
29:15
enough to leave because, in her words just last episode, I was okay
29:18
with it for a while and now I need something different. So I'm judging
29:22
changed. I'm judging her for this, Well, she's changed, and they
29:26
actually talk about how Cody's changed, and they've changed. Everybody's changed. But
29:29
I'm hardcore judging her for putting up with this on behalf of their children for
29:33
the entire time and like not thinking ahead. And I understand it's your faith,
29:37
but if your faith is toxic, right, if your faith is punitive
29:42
or to women and children, Yeah, if this is what you're showing your
29:47
kids, then wake up right and do the right thing. I just don't
29:49
have I don't know. That just hit me the wrong way when she said
29:52
there was no abuse to neglects so that's why she never left. There was
29:56
actually though, Yeah, my friends back at marries house, we are having
30:00
the conversation with Robin and they're talking about how they're going to handle life once
30:04
Mary starts spending more time in Utah. And Mary says, well, if
30:10
something happens with the kids, or if something's going down, if there's an
30:14
event, you're gonna have to text me. You know, you're gonna have
30:15
to actually reach out. And then on the camera she's me on the couch.
30:21
She says, I was alone during the entire pandemic. Robin didn't call
30:26
me, Robin didn't text me, which, of course, we raccoons,
30:32
we felt that we knew that we're sniffed in the trash from a mile away,
30:34
honey. But finally Mary said it. I loved that she outed her
30:40
on that, and I've been seeing that on the reddits, like everybody is
30:42
wondering if Mary was just like this sleeper sniper this whole entire time, like
30:47
undercover, just believing Robin's bullshit just to expose her at the right moment.
30:52
And everybody's talking about how Cody and Robin are getting the edit they deserve this
30:56
time around, like where it's actually being shown how shitty you guys are and
31:00
your lies are not adding up. All the ship's not adding up. Robin
31:04
acting like she's such a good friend that she cares about Mary and her feelings.
31:10
You don't even know her, You're not even messaging her, You're not
31:14
caring about her during COVID, dude, And I was messaging my distant ass
31:18
ho ass family out in all of these other states, like I don't even
31:22
talk to them. I was messaging people I don't even have really good relationships
31:26
with because I was genuinely worried about them during the pandemic, Like are you
31:30
alive though? Right? Like you couldn't even do that. If you have
31:33
the minimalist amount of compassion and love for somebody, you're checking in and making
31:37
sure they're okay. But Robin's an EmPATH, right, right, She's an
31:41
mpath. She feels things so deeply. Yeah, Okay, except she doesn't.
31:45
Except she doesn't. That was just that was really sad. But I
31:51
was so glad that she said something. Mary also said that she does not
31:53
believe that Cody has been sitting here for a couple of years lamenting the destruction
32:00
of his family, because if he was truly lamenting, which is a form
32:02
of grieving, kind of grieving out loud, grieving in a demonstrative way,
32:07
if you were truly grieving and you could fix it, you would do that.
32:10
Yeah, but you're not doing anything. You're Atlas and you've shrugged,
32:14
right, you set the world down. You're expecting everybody else to do the
32:17
heavy lifting for you. So Mary's like, I'm not buying this anymore.
32:21
You're not lamenting, you just don't give a shit. And Robin's kind of
32:24
surprised when she says this. She's kind of taken back a little bit.
32:28
And what did you think about her reaction to this? When Mary was like,
32:32
you know, Robin, if he actually cared, why isn't he making
32:36
any effort? Like specifically, why isn't he making any effort with me,
32:39
and Robin starts to say something, she says, that's the billion dollar question.
32:44
Yeah, but she also said something right right before she started to be
32:46
like boo boo and didn't say anything. She knew she was on camera,
32:51
But like, what did you think about her reaction to that? I thought
32:53
she was caught off guard. I feel like it's very similar to the reaction
32:57
that Cody had last week with Janelle at Salsa Brava when yes, when Janelle
33:01
brings up, oh, you didn't even call Savannah though, and Cody doesn't
33:05
have an answer and he should have had an answer for that, but he
33:08
just didn't expect her to say it on camera. And I think we're having
33:12
a similar moment here that Robin is not expecting even and it's so slight.
33:16
It's not like Mary's pushing a lot, right, bitch, She's really not.
33:20
She's saying the bare minimum, but she is not expecting Mary to say
33:23
even that, and so I feel like she's just, oh, oh,
33:27
this is what we're doing, taken off guard, Okay, And this is
33:30
where she kind of tips over into because again Mary said, you know,
33:35
she hasn't called me, she hasn't done anything. And this is where Robin
33:37
says, well, I've just been inside of myself. I've really deprass.
33:43
My whole world is falling apart and people are making decisions on my behalf that
33:47
impacted my family, and I'm really depressed and upset about it. But I'm
33:52
not a victim. I would never say I'm a victim. Yeah, I
33:55
don't even indulge that way of thinking. Could never be a victim. Get
34:00
that straight. It's like, Oh, it's just toughen up and man up
34:04
and deal with it, that's what she says. Yeah, she's so full.
34:07
I just like, wow, do you not watch any of these episodes?
34:13
I mean, she's got it. You're not a raccoon. You're not
34:15
archiving every episode and like watching everything, watching scene, watching multiple times,
34:20
like memorizing it in your raccoon brain. But like, watch your episodes back,
34:24
because if you just look, you can see the ship that you've said
34:27
all along. You can see the way that it would becomes true that you
34:30
are a manipulative hag. You can see all of this unfolding right before your
34:32
eyes. But you don't. You believe your own bullshit. That's what makes
34:37
you a pathological liar. On a narcissist. They totally They've been lying for
34:42
so long that they believe they're just their own bullshit. Yeah, they like
34:45
don't even know any other reality but their own distorted one that they've concocted.
34:51
It's pretty bizarre to watch. Yeah, it is bizarre to watch. I
34:54
think how many people are on the planet who live in that state of unconsciousness,
34:59
Oh God, just believe their own ship and they're huffing their own farts
35:02
and they have no idea how they're coming off to the rest of the world,
35:05
like free radicals, just bumping into everything and destroying it. Cody's a
35:08
free radical dude. He's destroying his whole family, out of control, and
35:12
he takes no responsibility for any of it, none at all. He really
35:16
him and Robin both think that they're the ultimate victims in this entire scenario.
35:22
I'm just like, are you stupid? Yes? Yes, people even said
35:29
yes they are. We also go back to sel Sabrov and have that conversation
35:32
about how Cody has changed, and Christine remarks interestingly that he's changed so much
35:39
that she could never actually be attracted to the kind of guy that Cody currently
35:45
is. And this kind of gives Janelle an aha moment where she's like,
35:49
yeah, actually, maybe that's what it is. Because for years and years
35:52
and years my punani tingled for Cody Brown. We were in a renaissance in
35:58
Vegas. Baby, he was getting me poetry was tickling the hot fat cat,
36:02
fat cat, thank you, the hot box and the fat cat.
36:06
I was into it. But something has changed. And I was watching Red
36:09
Lips, Red Lipstick Reality TV and she was talking about how what has changed
36:15
is his morals, his value system, which is a thread that takes us
36:22
back to the manisphere, to the red Pill, to Andrew Tate, to
36:25
all those toxic, poisonous forums that he was on over covid and probably before,
36:31
to be honest with you, and how in the last I don't know,
36:35
four to five years, he has changed his entire outlook, outlook on
36:39
life. And now women are bad. He hates women. He's shirking his
36:45
responsibility to cell. He's a fucking insult. He's a men going his own
36:49
way. He even used the term men going their own way. Mike Tao,
36:52
Oh he did. He did use that term when he was talking to
36:55
his dumb friends Nate or whatever. My god, the actual term analogy,
37:02
and so I think Janelle is waking up to the reality that, oh,
37:07
this guy's is different. He's not the same And even Mary says he's not
37:10
the same, happy, go lucky, wonderful person that he used to be.
37:15
There's something very dark in him. And what I wanted to tell you
37:17
was, I think you have to have a fundamental flaw of character, and
37:23
it's got to be a big fucking flaw for you to change, so much
37:28
like, please try and catch me ever in my life, turning my back
37:31
on my child, turning my back on my spouse, turning my back on
37:37
my responsibilities to the people that I care the most for. The only way
37:40
you'd catch me doing that is if I didn't love them in the first place.
37:44
And if I didn't care them in the first place, I could never
37:46
turn into something like that now. I mean, maybe I'm talking out of
37:51
ignorance, but I can't see it ever happening. The fact that Cody's turning
37:54
like this, becoming this black, dark hearted troll of a man, means
38:00
he's always kind of been that way. Like deep down, yep, that's
38:02
my theory. He's always kind of been that way. That would make sense,
38:07
I guess, because it just seems like a dramatic change. And even
38:10
Christine and Janelle talk about how he used to be bold and charismatic and courageous,
38:15
and I'm just like, what do you mean by that, because I
38:19
mean we saw a glimpse of him and season one, maybe before all the
38:24
fame, before all the bullshit, where there was a little glimpse of him
38:29
of what he may have used to be, where he had this magical relationship
38:34
and a magical family with the three og wives, and then Robin came and
38:37
fucked it all up with their breakdance and pussy. So it's like there was
38:40
obviously a change, and I always attributed it to Robin and her manipulation and
38:46
her desire to be the tonipulate me into estranging myself from my family, Like
38:52
you can't well know, because you've got a big brain and you have a
38:55
big heart, Like you would never have that inclination. And ever if somebody,
39:00
if your husband right now, who's the love of your life right came
39:04
and told you, yeah, you shouldn't talk to Beatrice ever again or her
39:07
wife, fuck them, fuck them hose, you'd be like, fuck you
39:10
right, Well, we'll be like, Okay, it's time talk about what
39:14
the fuck is going on? Absolutely, yeah, absolutely not. So.
39:17
My theory is it's always been inside him. He's always been this person.
39:22
He's always hated his family. No, he's just always had the capacity to.
39:25
I don't think he's ever committed to them as deeply as they have committed
39:29
to him. He wouldn't have been able to be moved from his position if
39:34
he loved them the way that they loved him, and they depended on him
39:37
man the way they the way Joannelle gave him her money, the way Joanne
39:40
now gifted the money for Robert to buy her house. That woman was believing.
39:45
She was believing in the dream, and he never believed in it.
39:49
I don't think he ever believed in it. I think he's a bad person.
39:51
He lacks integrity. He's also weak, and he's fucking soft, and
39:54
he's living in the shadow of when his father. Everything he has done up
39:59
until maybe Robin, I don't know, has been to try and please his
40:01
father and what his father wanted for him in his life. And that's why
40:06
I think the loss of Janelle in particular is very stinging to him, because
40:10
Wynn really loved Janelle when married Janelle's mama, that's true, and Winn spoke
40:15
so highly of Janelle, and so for Janelle to be piecing out on Cody
40:21
it hurts even more than Christine, which also really yes, oh fuck yes
40:24
really, because it seems like Cody is really fucking distraught over Christine. He
40:30
can't stop himself from bringing her up. Yes, every moment, even Robin
40:34
brings her up at every moment. No id percent think the loss of Janelle
40:38
is the biggest loss of all. Maybe Robin would be the biggest loss of
40:42
all. I'm not sure if that would ever happen. But Janelle for him,
40:45
I mean, you're going back into the lineage, babe, You're going
40:49
back into the ancestral energy. I feel like he loves her, respects her.
40:53
She's a strong ass woman. She's left in before. She's the one
40:57
who bought the Lee High House. She's the one who got him out of
41:00
a lot of problems. Yeah, Janelle's got game, my friend, as
41:04
you do. And so yeah, I think it's a big loss to him,
41:07
and I think that probably threatens Robin a little bit. Oh totally.
41:09
She's an EmPATH, she can feel that. Yeah, she isn't a path.
41:15
But do you also think that there's a little nugget of truth with Robin
41:17
when she says the bullshit of like Cody's got a lot of weight on his
41:22
shoulders, and Cody using the analogy of Atlas and holding the world on his
41:28
shoulders, and he shrugged it off, Like, do you think there's a
41:30
little nugget of truth of like he just got overwhelmed with the scale of his
41:35
family and the responsibilities that it takes to be one man and have to maintain
41:40
not only four marriages but twenty thousand relationships with all of these children. Like
41:45
do you think I'm not I'm not justifying his behavior obviously of abandoning his family.
41:51
He created this huge, ginormous family. He should be responsible for maintaining
41:54
it. But do you think that part of that overwhelming feeling of like all
42:00
this all of this bullshit, it's the apparatus of your family, like the
42:05
whole structure. Do you think that that's why he part of the reason why
42:07
he changed though he's like, I just got lazy because he just wanted to
42:10
maintain the one family. I think that's what makes him weak. I think
42:15
that's what makes him soft because more money, more problems. With more money,
42:20
they had more houses. They bought Kyote Pass. They're going to be
42:22
a big house. They're going to be five different houses. There was way
42:25
more infrastructure involved in maintaining and managing all of these relationships. Absolutely, but
42:31
a strong man would do it, and a strong man would know how to
42:34
do it. A strong man wouldn't bounce as soon as it got acute and
42:37
got hard. He would workshop the problem with all of his wives and even
42:40
his kids. And you can't tell me that it's harder with his children.
42:43
They're all old now, they had been raised, they're out of the house.
42:45
You only have the tenders and truly, and Savannah, you are neglecting
42:50
Savannah. You don't give a fuck about truly. Let's just call a space
42:52
space to not give a fuck about truly. You only care about your kids.
42:57
So he's soft, he's weak, he's lazy, coward, But he's
43:02
also one hundred percent up Robin's pussy. That's where he wants to baby a
43:07
trust ever. He wants to be in that bed, he wants to be
43:10
in that kitchen, he wants to be with her all the time. They
43:14
are truly in love and that's a beautiful thing. But tell the truth about
43:17
it, right, just keeps stringing people along, like Christine says, like
43:22
he likes to string people along. He's been stringing Mary along for years,
43:25
He's been string He's strung me along for quite some time. I finally said
43:30
no, and he was trying to string Janelle along. This is what he's
43:32
doing because he's a coward. Yeah, And this is one of the things
43:36
that Christine said in terms of how he has changed because he's no longer courageous,
43:40
which is another way of saying that bitch is a coward and he is
43:45
a coward. Before moving on to the next segment, we have to talk
43:47
about how Mary asks Robin like, why isn't he doing more? Why isn't
43:52
Cody doing more? I mean, he's so angry, he's so upset.
43:55
Well, why isn't he doing something to fix this? And did you catch
43:58
how Robin and got really defensive and she's like, well, what is he
44:02
supposed to be doing? I don't understand your fucking question. Yeah, And
44:06
I'm like, what do you mean, what is he supposed to be doing?
44:07
Yeah? What kind of question is that to ask? To marry of
44:10
all fucking people who's been the most not Yeah, let me count the ways
44:15
I could call my kids. I could call my wives. I could equally
44:19
support them financially. I could show up at their houses. I could continue
44:22
to write poetry. I could provide for my family. I could be a
44:27
friend to my family, Like I could spend my time equally amongst the house.
44:30
Like, there's so many different ways anyway, what do you mean,
44:32
Robin? What do you mean? Robin? Like when she's like, well,
44:37
how is he supposed to act differently he's supposed to do? I'm just
44:39
sick. I can't with you. And again Janelle calls this out. This
44:43
is an emmo of Robin's yea. She likes to pretend that she's confused or
44:47
that she doesn't know, or that she doesn't remember, Like, well,
44:51
what do you mean Cody has any responsibility whatsoever in any of these marriages.
44:54
I don't get it. What's your question? What do you mean? It's
44:58
Christine's fall that the family broke up. It's Christine's fault for Cody being angry
45:05
and being a bitter person, like Robin believes Cody's bullshit. Robin believes this
45:09
lie that it's everybody else's fault, but Cody, she doesn't she believes.
45:15
Don't believe that she believes that. I think she knows one hundred percent that
45:21
what they have done to the other sister wives is unfair, that they have
45:25
come on. Do you guys think Robin knows that what they've done is unfair
45:30
and even cruel or do you think Robin doesn't understand that? Well? I
45:36
think how she has impacted the rest of the family. I mean, she
45:38
probably crazy. Well are you sick? Are you awake right now? Are
45:45
you for real? For real? Beatrice? Well, but that would mean
45:49
that she would have to be really fucking smart and be this machiavellian machiavellian puppet
45:53
master this entire time to know what she has been doing and what Cody has
46:00
been doing is wrong. And then if what Cody says is true at the
46:04
end of this episode about how he doesn't want to abandon the rest of the
46:07
wives because he doesn't want to lose Robin's respect, that would mean that Robin
46:12
would hold value and Cody maintaining these marriages or putting on the air that he
46:17
is maintaining these mayor moneies. Well, yeah, and I also don't believe
46:22
him. Well, yeah, she does not need to be smart. I
46:24
don't know how many times we have to discuss this, but let's do it
46:27
again, bitch. She does not have to be smart to be able to
46:30
be a puppet master. All she has to do is to have instinct.
46:34
Yes, all she has to do is to have instinct. Don't people know
46:37
how to rob other people? Don't people know how to commit crimes? Don't
46:40
people know how to abuse their children? Like? Don't people do this shit
46:44
all the time. Yeah, I'm not saying Robin is dumb, but yes,
46:46
I asked she's a dumb dumb Yeah, but she has the instinct and
46:50
she knows she wants her man, And a woman knows how to do what
46:52
a woman knows how to do, just like a man knows how to do
46:54
it. A man knows how to do. That's true, that's fair.
46:58
You caved really easily on that was playing devil's advocate A Yeah, well,
47:01
let me ask you why does the devil need an advocate? I got that
47:06
off Reddit, and that's so fucking good. That's true. Back itsels,
47:08
Brava. We're having a conversation about Cody's primary complaints against Christine and Janelle,
47:16
and Christine's like it was always that I wasn't a good sister wife. And
47:21
you know what, I feel like I was a good sister wife. Maybe
47:22
not the best. Yeah, there were things I could have done differently,
47:27
but like I wanted to be a good sister wife, but Robin really never
47:30
gave me the opportunity. Case in point, she never let me take care
47:34
of her children. And that is the essence of what sister wives do for
47:37
one another. They show up for the children. But Robin got a nanny.
47:42
And Robin never really integrated into the fabric of the family structure. She
47:46
always held herself separate and apart from the rest of us, and in doing
47:52
so, I could never really be a full and complete sister wife to her.
47:54
And I was like, preach girl, tell more so good. And
48:00
Janelle is just kind of like smiling because she knows this is true, and
48:05
she even says to Christine like, this is kind of how it's evolved in
48:07
the family. Is that, like everybody's been kind of part of the sidelines.
48:13
I think this is the part where Christine talks about the parties and how
48:16
every time she planned a party. Yes, Cody arrived as a guest,
48:21
but then Cody was right there planning all of the parties for him and Robbin's
48:24
house and everything like that, So he was acting like a husband for her.
48:28
And so it's in all of those moments, compounded over time, over
48:31
ten twelve years, that have shown to all of these wives that yeah,
48:36
they're just side characters in this Galaxy quest. It's just him and Robin the
48:40
whole entire time. Yes, And this is where Janelle brings up the fact
48:44
that you couldn't criticize Robin. To criticize Robin and her impact in the other
48:51
marriages was tantamount to abuse. According to Cody, because as soon as anybody
48:57
brought it up, and hello, it's legitimate to bring it up. Yeah,
49:00
because you're spending twenty five nights out of thirty over there at Robin's house
49:05
and that impacts our marriage and our children. So I'm gonna bring that shit
49:07
up. Hello. But anytime you brought that up, he immediately shut it
49:10
down. Robin can do no wrong. She's just a sweet girl. You're
49:14
all just picking on her. She came into this family cap in hand and
49:16
with her bills. Did they go on the counter the bills go on the
49:20
counter. My Victoria's secret bills do. But she's a sweet woman and I
49:23
will not hear any criticism of her if you do. The near big bad
49:28
sister wife, Now, do you think that that was fueled by Cody and
49:30
his love and lusts? Her always playing the victim and feeling so hurt and
49:38
always being so sensitive and always going out of her way to other herself and
49:44
her children, which reminds me of Gwendolyn Brown on her Patreon because she told
49:49
the story of like she must have been I don't know, nine or ten
49:52
years old or really young girl. She's riding along with Robin and the kids
49:57
in Robin's minivan and Robin's pregnant with kings Alomon, and so Gwendolen says something
50:01
like, I'm so excited we'll have like a brother in common, a full
50:05
blood brother. Although I'm sure she said it as a child would, and
50:07
with the innocence of a child, did she say it? And Robin fucking
50:12
stops the mini van starts crying Aurora and dating it. Brianna, they are
50:16
your sisters and brother, Oh my god, you're actually your family too,
50:22
and turned it into this big fucking production and spectacle about how Gwendolen didn't accept
50:29
them as real family, Like Gwendolen's fine, Yeah, she's just a kid.
50:34
She goes to great pains to do this, and she's doing it to
50:37
a nine year old Gwendolen. She's doing it to Christine, she's doing it
50:39
to Mary, she's doing it to Cody. When Cody comes home and talks
50:43
about the ship that's going on in these homes, which he does, right,
50:45
So of course Cody being in love with her and wants the best for
50:49
her, of course he believes that. So that, okay, that makes
50:52
sense. Well, we just heard about it because Janelle said, I think
50:54
in last episode that she had a private conversation with Robin about how maybe she
51:00
doesn't want to buy the McMansion because it's a lot of money we would use
51:02
for Coyote Pass. But it was a normal conversation between two sister wives.
51:07
She takes that to Cody, and somehow something's lost in translation, and Cody
51:13
brings it up a year and a half later and paints it as if Janelle
51:15
attacked Robin. I guarantee you Robin conveyed it as such. Cody didn't make
51:20
that shit up. Oh yeah, and I get with it. And Robin
51:22
even reveals that she does that when she's talking to Mary, because Mary's like,
51:27
are you going to be there? When I tell Cody then I'm moving
51:30
because I'm gonna need you to be there. And Robin's like, yeah,
51:32
I'll translate for you, because you know, people call me what she's like
51:37
people I speak, Cody, I speak, I'm the Cody with spur.
51:40
You just revealed your hand there, Robin Brown, we know what you're doing.
51:45
So in the conversation it saws sobravo. When they're talking about how we
51:47
can't criticize Robin, we segue into that the fact that Robin paints herself as
51:55
a victim, and again hermo is to act like she doesn't know what's happening.
52:00
I'm so confused and mystified. But that her need to be a victim
52:06
runs so deep that Janelle doesn't think it is overcomable, Like, I don't
52:10
think this bitch is ever going to change. I think because she's always going
52:15
to need to see herself as somebody Cody has to take care of, which
52:19
Janelle calls the damsel in distress syndrome or whatever. Because she has to do
52:23
that. I'm never going to be I'm never going to have a normal relationship
52:27
with Cody Brown, and something's got to change whatever happens to me. Janelle
52:30
says, whether I'm marry again, you know that marriage, or like if
52:37
God gives me a guy, and says, this is the one, irrespective,
52:42
it has got to be different than what I got going on right now
52:45
with Cody Brown. Yes, honey, yes, at least at the very
52:47
least, at the very least, you deserve different. Now, what is
52:51
Robin gonna do when all of these wives are gone and she has nothing to
52:57
fill her time with Cody? Like she's been manipulating Cody this whole entire time
53:01
and like acting like this damsel in distress. What are you going to do
53:05
now when all of the wives are gone? Continue because she used, I
53:07
think with her kids, with her children, who Cody has admitted he plans
53:15
to have them in the house for at least fifteen years. While Saul at
53:17
the time is probably nine years old, so like well into his twenties,
53:22
even though he wanted to kick out Gabe and Garrison as soon as they turned
53:24
eighteen. Yeah, so he's intending for those children to stick around. I
53:29
think Robin maybe deeply invested in keeping the children as baby like as possible.
53:37
This is a theory on Reddit as baby like as possible, because Cody really
53:42
is enamored with the little ones. He's always picking up the little ones,
53:45
and as soon as you get old, especially if you're a boy, he's
53:47
discarding you. And so Robin is trying to make it because on the couch
53:52
here with Saulinari talking about the minipikes that they'll never be able to ride,
53:54
I think Sault is nine or ten. Oh, yeah, he's old enough
53:59
that he could ride one. He looks like he's six. Yeah, he
54:01
looks really really young. And same with Ari with her fucking binky a couple
54:06
episodes, he's like one year younger than truly Geez put that into perspective.
54:10
So I'm wondering if she's trying to keep them in the baby years as long
54:15
as possible, so Cody stays interested in them, therefore interested in her.
54:20
No one, sup. All of the kids are out of the house and
54:22
it's just Cody and Robin. Girl, I don't know what the fuck she's
54:25
going to leave him. She's gotta right like because there's not going to be
54:29
anything for her to do. Oh my god, you're going to be stuck
54:32
with Cody, no idea. We kind of end the episode and the scene
54:39
with Mary saying something that I was like, are you fucking kidding me right
54:44
now? Which is the following. She's like, it's me and Robin that
54:46
are the ones that really care about this relationship. We are the ones that
54:51
are willing to have difficult conversations, which you need to do if you want
54:55
to heal relationships. And I'm thinking to myself, Mary, aren't you the
55:00
woman who anytime things got a little dicey or a little too close to you,
55:06
you're like, walls up, walls up, Yeah, feeling unsafe.
55:09
She totally is, I have to remove myself from the situation because I'm feeling
55:14
unsafe all of a sudden. You're able to have difficult conversations. Show me,
55:20
show me when, show me how I've never seen it. I'm like,
55:22
what difficult conversations are you talking about? Because a difficult conversation would be
55:27
you confronting Robin on her shitty friendship to you and how she's stringing you along
55:30
along with Cody. Like that's the difficult conversation I need to be having with
55:34
her, not this stupid bullshit about you being afraid to tell her that you're
55:37
moving. Yeah, I know. I was just like, I'm disappointed in
55:40
you. But at the same time, you ended it by saying, I
55:44
need to go where people want me, Like I want to be where people
55:47
want me. I don't want to be where I'm unwelcome. I have a
55:51
full life, I have a good life. I've got a lot of stuff
55:53
on my plate, and so I just want to focus on being in the
55:57
vibe of that. Yeah, and Robin, I guess understands she's hurt,
56:01
but she understands she should see the writing on the wall that Mary's leaving.
56:07
Mary's leaving. Oh, yeah, she should see that, the writing on
56:09
the wall. Yeah, I think she sees that. I don't think she's
56:13
actually feeling for Mary in this moment, though. I think she's crying because
56:17
she herself. Yeah, because she's going to be alone with Cody, and
56:22
because she potentially is going to lose another income stream, because she knows Janelle
56:27
is going out the door. She knows it's also dishonoring and it's an embarrassment
56:30
and that they failed and Robin you failed, and Cody, you especially failed,
56:34
especially because Robin can be as toxic and as vile as possible. Yeah,
56:39
but you're the one that stands at the door, the centurion at the
56:44
gate, to protect your family. You let this woman inside, you,
56:49
let her change your mind, You let her change how you treat your children,
56:52
and she can be as fucked up as possible. But that one,
56:54
my guy, that's on you, totally. That's on you. Preach.
56:59
Now we get to the preview for next week, and of course we will
57:01
be about to talk about that. We see Christine continuing to encourage Janelle to
57:07
move to Utah. Oh my gosh, she just wants it. So Sister
57:10
Wives Forever, Sister Wives Lives. Yes, we see Mary telling Cody that
57:17
she's leaving, but that she's still in the family and she's still in this
57:22
relationship. And then Cody's like, I don't care. It doesn't even phase
57:27
me. It has no effect on me at all. Ever, I wonder
57:30
what he's going to say in the moment, because I think I heard or
57:34
read somewhere that the description of that episode says that it goes way worse than
57:38
Mary expected it to go. So I think we're going to get into some
57:42
horship we love. We also see Cody saying that he's afraid to abandon the
57:50
O G three wives because Robin will lose respect for him. That's huge.
57:53
Maybe he's a weak fucking man who can't stand up to his wife. And
57:58
last, but not least, Janelle and Cody go on a date. Why
58:01
And he's so excited. He's got butterflies. They're fluttering in his six pack
58:06
ab abdomen and his pencil, and his pencil is getting a little tagli down
58:09
there, don't know at mooist. He's getting really excited for this date and
58:15
he's kind of jonesing for a little kiss. Maybe she'll favor him with a
58:19
kiss. And Janelle's just riding in the car like, dude, it's Bin
58:22
over, I'm done with you, Asta Lavisa. Then why is she going
58:25
on a date? She's probably wanting to co parent consciously or uncouple consciously,
58:30
but she knows this guy's going to be in her life for the rest of
58:32
her life. Might as well just have a conversation. We have yet to
58:36
see. Maybe she's giving it one final shot. The good old college,
58:39
dry the old college. But we at least have the comfort and the solace
58:44
of knowing that woman leaves him. Whatever he tries ain't gonna work. Janelle's
58:51
gone, Dude, this pace out. I just want to see her with
58:54
a big strapping cowboy. Dude, big old, big dick, strong,
59:00
big old You say this every episode we've received, We've received your manifestation.
59:07
Keep putting it out there. We'll give it some time. Janille has to
59:10
get Janelle has to be patient. Janelle has to be okay with that.
59:14
She's still like Mary is trying to remove her identity from the cult and from
59:19
the family. Jill is doing the same thing. She's still deep in the
59:22
cult. So he's gonna take her some time. But yeah, I co
59:23
signed that manifestation, Honey, I want happiness for I don't think she's ever
59:28
known what it's like to be with like one of those kinds of men.
59:31
Because she thought Cody was attractive. I know she loved his man bun.
59:37
She thought he was the bee's knees. And I'm like, you have yet
59:39
to sample the glorious tastings of men out in the world, all the ice
59:45
cream flavors, all the ice cream flavors, as it were, like you
59:49
have yet to sample what like a real man is like, Oh yeah,
59:52
I know. I just want that for her so bad. And Mary,
59:55
or with a woman, that's fine, I mean, yes, a biker
59:59
person, you a we say that with Mary. So do you think that
1:00:00
that's something that's possible. Yes, I just I don't know why inappropriate of
1:00:05
you, as a gay person to speculate on somebody's gayness. I'm allowed to
1:00:09
because of my authority as the l and the LGBTQ. I'm an authorities are
1:00:16
always trying to invite additional lisbians into the fullest and my gaydar has never been
1:00:22
wrong. No, and you think you've got some gaydar with Mary? Yes,
1:00:24
my god. Does anybody out there have gay dar for Mary? I
1:00:28
would love to see it. You know. I love a gay fantasy.
1:00:30
Yes, I love a gay especially a lesbian fan. We need more lesbians,
1:00:34
Yes, out here, girl. Any kind of Dike will do.
1:00:38
Yes, any kind of Dike will We'll speak in into existence for you.
1:00:43
Mary. Put it on the vision board. You're welcome, You're welcome.
1:00:46
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