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Lesley Groff And The Transcript From Her Epstein Related Trip to Congress (Part 12) (7/7/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  where we left off with Leslie Groff and her interview
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  with Congress Miss Brignac. I'll now enter into the record
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  majority Exhibit six, which is Bates stamped EFTA zero zero
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  nine five six five two four and dated March fourteenth,
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  twenty thirteen, Miss Brignac. Question in this email exchange or
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  redacted individual asked mister Epstein whether he will be in
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  New York and whether he has a place for her
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  to stay. Mister Epstein forwarded this email to you and
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  asked you and I quote less, do we have an
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  apartment for her? I'll give you a moment to review.
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  Question okay, mims Groff. Specifically, this woman says her check
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  friend will be in town, and mister Epstein asks if
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  you have an apartment for her? Who was this individual
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  that needed a place to stay? Answer? I don't know, sorry,
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  question if you can't remember the name, did you in
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  fact secure an apartment for this individual? Answer? I don't know.
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  I was asked to see if there was an apartment available.
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  I don't know what happened after that question. Is it
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  possible that you would have put her up at three
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  one E sixty sixth Street. Answer it's possible. Question did
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  you commonly arrange for housing for young women or girls
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  at three one e sixty sixth Street Answer? I did
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  arrange villa because I was directed and asked to set
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  aside an apartment for someone, and it could be women
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  and men. Question how many individuals did you secure housing
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  four at three oh one E sixty six Street Answer
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  over my could you be more specific? What do you mean? Question? Yes? Ever?
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  Answer ever? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. They
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  were guest apartments and he had guests come and go.
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  Question and what would be the purpose of these foreign
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  women staying at epstein Own residence? Answer? I don't know.
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  Question you never asked? Answer? I did not ask. Now,
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  Miss Tolan is asking a question. What was your understanding
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  of mister Epstein's involvement or did you understand them to
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  have an ownership in three oh one East sixty six Answer?
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  I thought that he owned the apartments. I didn't know.
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  That's not something that I got into. Question and how
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  many apartments? Answer? I don't know, probably like ten apartments.
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  Question are those apartments separate from the office space you
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  worked in when you were in that building. Answer. Two
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  of the apartments became no longer guest apartments. They became offices.
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  Question And were the other eight apartments always occupied? Answer? No,
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  There would be times when no one would be in
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  the apartments. Question, and we've mentioned a couple different individuals
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  that would be housed in these apartments. Were any of
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  mister Epstein's assistants housed in these apartments? Answer? Traveling assistants
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  could have no apartment there. Yes. Question and did he
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  pay the rent if they were living there? Answer? I
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  don't know. Question Were any other employees of mister Epstein
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  house there? Answer? I know at one point Lynn and
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  Jojo had an apartment there. I recall if you would
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  hire I recall somebody who was hired as an estate manager.
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  There was a gentleman. I don't know where he moved from,
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  but he moved into one of the apartments. There were
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  the pilots that each had an apartment there was I
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  believe Darren lived there for a little bit. Miss Brignac
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  or any Messus is housed at three oh one East
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  sixty sixth Street, Miss Groff No. Questioned by Miss Tolan.
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  And did mister Epstein house any of his girlfriends at
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  this apartment? Answer? I believe redacted live there for a
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  time and redacted live there for a time. Question and
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  you said you may have put someone in these apartments
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  on occasion, who else would have been involved in the process?
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  Answer just mister Epstein directing me to put a side
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  an apartment for someone. Question did you work with Richard
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  Kahn redacted Darren Endyke for any of these apartments? Answer no,
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  I don't think they had much to do with who
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  would be staying in the apartments. Now Brignac is asking
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  questions once again. Question was mister Epstein a registered sex
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  offender at the time that you were housing women from
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  Czech Republic? Answer? There were constant guests coming and going
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  from his apartments. Question sorry, was he a registered sex offender?
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  Answer it would be after he was a registered sex offender.
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  Question did that concern you? Answer? No question, Miss Groth.
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  This committee is attempting to understand the circle of people
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  that allowed for mister Epstein to continue the abuse of
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  young women and girls beyond his arrest. You never asked
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  anyone or express concern to mister Epstein about him housing
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  foreign women and girls in apartment housing. Answer, I did
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  not question him on his business. Question by Miss Tolan.
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  Did David Mitchell ever live in the three oh one
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  East sixty sixth apartment? Answer? I don't believe so. Question,
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  And you mentioned guests apartments generally. Is there anyone else
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  you can recall that staid in the three oh one
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  East sixty sixth Street apartment mister Epstein's guest Answer. I
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  recall a mother and her son who was getting treatment
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  at Sloan Kettering. They stayed for a good six months.
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  I know Ehud Barack and nearly his wife stayed at
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  three zero one. Who else? I mean? People would often
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  call and ask if they could stay some people, you know,
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  I didn't know everyone that was staying there. Question and
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  changing gears a little bit back to scheduling generally, you
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  mentioned you were responsible for scheduling all kinds of appointments
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  for mister Epstein. Is that correct? Answer? Yes? Question and
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  you were specifically scheduling for the meetings at the New
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  York Residence. Answer? Yes, I scheduled meetings for the New
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  York Residence. Question and what would the scheduling entel? Were
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  you setting times? Days people answer yes, question can you
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  explain Answer yes, times days for a lunch a breakfast.
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  If it was for a breakfast, I would need to
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  find out what that person wanted for a breakfast and
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  make sure to tell his maid Lynn what they wanted
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  for breakfast or lunch or dinner. I would coordinate meetings
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  for people who were visiting in town and wanted to
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  see standard question and would mister Epstein always direct you
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  who to schedule or did you have any discretion? Answer?
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  I had no discretion. Question were you instructed to schedule
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  certain individuals on a reoccurring basis? Answer no, there was
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  no reoccurring appointment. Question Were you ever instructed to schedule
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  certain people at the same time or on the same
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  day as other individuals? Answer no. Question were meetings ever
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  scheduled for the purpose of mister Epstein introducing young women
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  or girls to other prominent individuals? Answer? Can you say
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  that again? I'm sorry? Question yes, were meetings ever scheduled
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  for the purpose of mister Epstein introducing young women or
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  girls to prominent individuals? Answer no, not that I know of.
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  Question did mister Epstein ever instruct you to schedule appointments
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  with women directly before or after his business meetings? Answer no.
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  Question did you ever schedule a massage appointments for mister
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  Epstein in between meetings? Answer that would be early on
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  in my employment. Yes. Question and when the massage appointments
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  were scheduled in between business meetings, did the business guests
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  ever partake in the massages? Answer not that I know of.
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  Question was that an intentional scheduling tactic? Answer? I didn't
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  know of any tactics. I just scheduled disappointments as directed
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  by him. Question do you know if he would ever
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  invite the guests he was meeting with the partake in
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  the massages? Answer I do not. Question And were you
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  the one responsible for circulating mister Epstein's daily calendar? Answer?
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  I did circulate the calendar so that his staff would
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  know when to expect people, Miss Brignac. So did he
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  ever have a massage appointment on the calendar that you circulated? Groff? Yes,
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  early on, I believe so. Question sorry, after his arrest,
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  were there any massage appointments on the calendar that you circulated,
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  Miss Groff? No? Miss Toland. Did you create the schedule
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  that would be sent around? Answer? Did I actually type
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  it question yep answer yes, I typed it. Question did
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  anyone else help you create it? Answer? No? Question who
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  all would receive the schedule? Answer usually the house staff
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  or if a pilot needed to know something, he would
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  be included. It was Usually it was the internal people.
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  Question was it sent daily? Answer yes? Question and what
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  email would you send this from? Do you recall? Answer
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  my email address? Question yes? Answer it th redacted mister Backner,
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  if you recall graff, I don't recall what my email was.
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  It was a Gmail address. Question but you had one
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  individual email for work with mister Epstein. Answer that is correct?
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  Question and it would come from that email? Answer correct.
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  Question Did you ever maintain a different email address? May
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  be affiliated with Darren in Dyke's Law firm? Answer no,
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  it never changed. My email address never changed. Question do
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  you still have access to that account? Answer? I have
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  not logged into that Gmail account since I left. Question
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  do you know sorry? Go ahead? Answer yeah, I mean
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  I don't know if there's still access to it. I
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  don't know how long an email address remains. Answer okay.
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  And for mister Epstein, do you know how many email
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  accounts he had? Answer? I don't know this je e
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  vacation was his main email address. I don't know if
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  any other addresses that I can think of. Question and
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  you mentioned earlier, but you did not have access to
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  his email addresses? Answer that is correct. Question you didn't
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  know the log in? Answer no, question never accessed it?
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  Answer no. Question Did you send emails on behalf of
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  mister Epstein? Answer I only sent an email as a directive.
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  I would pass on a message, but it was just,
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  you know, a message from mister Epstein is asking if
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  somebody if they're available. It was you know, I don't
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  really understand. Question, Miss Groff. This was covered a bit
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  in the last hour, but just to reiterate for the record,
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  do you know who Barbara Enbaum is? Answer? Yes. Question
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  and did mister Epstein hold meetings with her? Answer? Yes,
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  question how frequently? Answer only when she was in town.
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  I don't know how frequently, once a quarter maybe. Question
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  And what was the purpose of the meeting? Answer I
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  don't know. Question would she typically bring young women with
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  her to meet mister Epstein? Answer? I know she would
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  bring her graduates from the Stockholm School of Economics. I
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  believe that's who the women were. Question why was she
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  bringing them to mister Epstein. Answer because mister Epstein was
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  I don't know. He's a businessman and maybe he could.
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  I don't know. Mister Buckner, don't speculate. Miss Groff, Yeah,
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  I don't know. I wasn't there, Toland. Was he hiring
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  these young women? Answer? I don't think he hired any
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  of them. Question was he helping them connect for other jobs? Answer?
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  I don't know. Question and were you directly involved in
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  helping schedule meetings between mister e Abbas and Barbara Enbaum? Answer? Yes,
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  I scheduled meetings for Epstein and miss Enbomb. Question by
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  Miss Brignac. How would you know how long to schedule
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  the meetings for? Answer? I don't know. He was never
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  in meetings for a super long time, but I don't
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  know that he ever requested actual timing like set aside
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  two hours. Question So how did you know how long
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  to schedule them for? Answer? I guess I just guessed.
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  I mean thirty minutes seemed to be pretty typical. Maybe
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  an hour if it was lunch or breakfast something like that.
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  Question would you ever hear if an appointment was going long?
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  Why that was? Answer? No, he might tell me to
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  move something. This appointment's going to go longer. Can you
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  please move, you know, shift the rest of the day? Tolin?
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  And were you ever present for any of the meetings
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  between miss Enbaum, the BBB Girls, and mister Epstein? Answer no. Question.
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  Did any other men ever meet with Nbaum, the BBB
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  Girls and mister Epstein? Answer I don't know. Question Do
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  you know if Jess Staley ever took part in a
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  meeting with miss Enbaum, the BBB Girls and mister Epstein?
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  Answer I don't know, I don't recall question. Reporting indicates
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  that Swedish finance feminist Barbara Enbaum was organizing Swedish girls
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  for Jeffrey Epstein for a fee. In fact, EFTA files
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  released by the Department of Justice even show routine annual
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  donations from mister Epstein to miss Enbaum, frequently in the
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  amount of twenty five thousand, but there was once talk
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  a potential donation of up to a million dollars? Are
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  you aware of these allocations? Answer no? Question And were
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  you aware of any of this conduct occurring at the
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  time you were as secretary? Answer no, Miss Brignac, you
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  never saw a transaction between mister Epstein and Barbara Enbaum Groff.
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  There may have been. He may have said send Rich
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  or have Rich send whatever. The twenty five thousand, I
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  don't know, but I thought it was a donation to
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  the school. Toland, just ask one more time. Were you
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  aware that mister Epstein paid miss Enbaum large sums of
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  money in exchange for women or meetings with women? Miss Groff, No, Tolin,
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  And did mister Epstein utilize her meet with any other
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  organization similar to BBB Girls, Miss Groff, not that I
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  can recall. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right here,
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  and in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're
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  gonna pick up where we left off. All the information
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